Infinity General: Szarik Edition

>>48832529
>new thread with the subtitle not copy-pasted
Fucking finally.

Also, I prefer my Antipodes more Tinish and less wolfy.

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Some new RPG art.

>>48832583
I was pondering reusing the Grenzer pic just because.

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That's it for this update.

Is there a confirmed date on the manga?

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I have 4 Hellcat models. Would this be the way to use all of them?

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>>48832529
So, Anon from a few threads back, I finally got around to working on some mini's: Yay or nay?

I also may have painted a ORC as a Nomad by mistake. Any thoughts on that?

Also, please forgive my dirty as shit work desk, I am a utter fucking slob

>>48833169
>Red ORC
Change his MOV to 8-6.

>>48833169
Thin your paints or unfuck the primer, the coat's kinda uneven.
Another color would help greatly, 2-color schemes are kinda bland. Might wanna highlight the chest plate on the brigada to make it pop more.
Maybe start learning OSL? Get some glaze medium, mix in a bit of that light blue you use, blob it ~1mm around the lights (and for better effect, protruding edges/spots on which the ligh would shine the most). Mix some white into that, blob it ~0.4mm around lights. Mix more white (at this point it's almost white with a very slight blue shade), paint only the glowing elements, done.

>>48833087
Bets on it being out before the RPG comes out?

>>48833087
No solid dates. Either end of the year or Q1 next year

So are Spec Ops just used to plug holes you can't plug in your army with existing profiles?

>>48836626
They are intended as your character in a campaign. For ITS, yeah, basically

>>48832637
Igao about kill some people on the far left.

>>48832529
>>48832604
>>48832637
God, these rpg artwork are fucking gorgeous. I might have to pick some of them up even though I dont really care for playing an rpg

>>48837097
I think you can still join up for the pdfs.

>>48837128
Maybe, I'll wait for the release since I'll in no hurry. Also, just dropped 82usd on 3 KDM minis, I'm considering starting Arena Rex soon, and with Red Veil coming up...My hobby budget is done for the next month or so.

>>48836626
Yep, they're pretty lame and the people who use them are usually mouthbreathing tryhards.

>>48837273
Are they still offering the '£40 for all unlocked in the KS' deal? That's a pretty good deal. What is that, 10 books?

>>48836626
I just do whatever and make characters.

Im hungry for the rpg hombre

Is 20x20 good to use in 200pt games? Is 32"x24" too small for a 200pt game? Does anyone have pictures of actual terrain they actually use, rather than bespoke, handcrafted, artisanal $800 terrains imported via virgin elves riding pegasii from europe?

Also, I have Icestorm and bought a Lunokhod, Moran, Custodier, and a Sineater; looking to amp up my PanO next. Suggestions?

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>>48839316

Woops, wrong image.

>>48839316
Pick something that you like the look of and we'll tell you where it fits into the army. I assume you're going for a vanilla force?

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>>48839735
Yeah, I figure I can branch out (in?) later if I want. Thinking about Joan, two Auxbots, and some Crusader Brethren.

Whenever I finish painting these fucks, that is.

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>>48840485

>>48840485
Paint your thins.

>>48838184
19 books in total with the posibility of like 3 more in the pdf master

>>48840872
>the posibility of like 3 more
Isn't the period over for unlocking new books?

>>48840910
I dunno, people are still technically paying into the kickstarter so it may unlock still. Even then it is 19 books and if they sell well lthose three books will be avalible for purchase later on

>>48840921
Technology is already confirmed to be unlocked. They haven't said anything about NoM and Hypercorps.

>>48839316
You'll want some basic dudes or remotes for orders. In Nomads Moderator is cheaper than an Alguacile.

>>48840485
Don't go overboard on Crusader Brethren, STEEL REHN tactics don't work in Infinity. You need a certain number of orders on the ground at the start of the turn to be successful.
Basic dudes and basic S3 and Baggage remotes are often essentials. So Alguaciles/Moderators and Zond Remotes with Salyuts for Nomads and Fusiliers and Dronbots with Mulebots for PanO. Arguably less needed for PanO since they're not as hack-heavy.

Why are there no fucking Rifle wielding Wu Ming in the box

And only one Chain Rifle

How can I run the full Wu Ming Clan link without cheap, no-SWC guys to bulk it out

And on that note is running a Wu Ming Duo at 150 points (with Kuang Shi to give orders and CG to push buttons) going to be nothing to fuck with?

Wu Ming HMG
Wu Ming Duo / Chain Rifle
CG Lt
CG FO
CG Kuang Shi Controller
3 Kuang Shi
Sophotect

149/2.5

>>48841565
So you have to buy another box.
Everything in Infinity is designed so you have to buy two boxes. The whole cheap to play thing is a lie.
If you want to use the new models, you even end up buying two starter boxes, just to get enough cheerleaders.
The Baukunin box, with only TWO fucking moderators, looks like you will want to buy THREE boxes, just to get 6 cheerleader models

>>48841565
Duo will move them up the board more efficiently but... that's it. Kuang Shi links are good for powering up Rambos (Su Jian, Rhu Shi, etc). Wu Ming Pain Trains want a core link to start getting more burst, SS2, + 3, bonuses to really be useful.

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>>48840485
Jesus christ, how horrifying.

>>48841673
>. The whole cheap to play thing is a lie.
Actually compared to warmachine or 40k is it far cheaper.

>>48840485
paint your paints

>>48840485
thin your paints

>>48841789
>>48841783
I don't feel so self conscious about my own painting now

>>48841565
The absence of a rifle wielding model irks me to no end, I mean 1/3 of the loadouts use a rifle and yet CB decided exclude it. It would have been better to just switch the hmg or panzerfaust mini for a rifle one and release the excluded later as a blister, seeing how CB is somewhat reluctant to release non-swc models separately.

And speaking of boxes with useless loadouts, the boarding shotgun Kuang Shi is an outstanding offender. I know I can always proxy them, but still I wish CB would release some weapon packs to make our own conversions.

How do you people go about fielding the fourth chainrifle KS? Proxy, box-splitting, conversion?

>>48841946
>How do you people go about fielding the fourth chainrifle KS?
Make them a little tabard that says 'I've got a chainrifle'.

>>48841776
Far cheaper is not cheap to play.
For a 300 pt army, with options to plug and play a bit (because there is no best list! TM) along with paints and (especially ) terrain, you dish out a similar amount as a 2000 pt 40k army (don't play warmahordes, don't care about it)

>>48841946
'Is that a boarding shotgun?'
'Hahahahaha...ahahahahah... no. That is not a boarding shotgun. They are all chain rifles. Fuck the spainards.'

Is anyone going to do an Ariadna Tactica?

>>48841776
>>48842136
I feel the terrain elements in particular are a consistent "invisible cost" when starting this game. Unless you regularly play at a club with nice gaming tables then choose 1:
>expect to splurge a lot for some nice and overcosted HDF terrain
>take the time and resources to build it yourself
>play with a wild mix of kleenex boxes, glasses, shoeboxes and whatever else (I'm in this stage for now)

But it's true that the game is comparatively cheaper than others, €65 got me a kind of decent 300pts army.

>>48841946
There's probably going to be a MULTI rifle blister later. At least there'd better be, I don't want to be forced to include a Zhanying in every WM link I field.

>Kuang Shi
It's the same way for all cheap warbands. Nobody uses the shotgun or combi profiles but they still get put in boxes for the sake of variance. I just proxy the BSG as a chain rifle and call it a day.

>>48841673
If they wanted to do that they wouldn't release the 5th model for linkable troops in blisters or starters. I've only doubled up on Infinity purchases when I wanted to spam remotes.

The 2 moderator thing is fucking weird though. I really don't like the ASA or JCB starter lineups, I hope they're not finalised.

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I'm assembling a Lunokhod and I can't tell which of these guns is the flamethrower and which Akrylat-Kanone.
Not that it matters much, because I'd proxy the other if I needed to, but I'd just like to know which one I assembled it with.

>>48842407
I assumed the left one wa the flame thrower due to having that little bit under it like a fuel source

>>48842580
It could also be adhesive pack... But I think it looks more like a flamethrower. I think I'll go with that one. If I ever get a second Lunokhod, i'll give it the other one.

>>48841946
>>48841966
>>48842147
>>48842358

What the fuck are you people talking about, there are 4 sets of chainrifle arms in the Kuang Shi box, plus a BS one. Why would you build the last one as BS and then proxy a chain is beyond me. Especially now that they can link with KSCDCG.

>>48842780
Is that so? I was hesitant to buy the box beacuse of the BSG mini, and every picture online always shows 3 chains + 1 BSG si I assumed that was the only loadout option, and the description on the CB store doesn't help either.

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>>48833203

>>48842780
Shit, really? YJ players are some lucky fuckers, then. I wish there was something like that for Daturazi.

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>>48832637
OMG, Corvus Belli, we get that you like to make some movie actor references with some of those faces but this is too much. Those guys are total rips of the Talon Mercenaries from Overwatch (tm)!

>>48833203
Red ORC should move more like 4-5 if you follow the latest codex.

>>48843305
>insert pic of CB and Blizzard ripping/sucking each other off

>>48832637
>Dat confused warcor on the right

Is there such a thing as too many tank hunters? I like all their models, would using all of them be a bad idea?

>>48843638
They're cool. Still need orders and specialists to win games.

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>>48843305
t. Jeff Kaplan

>>48842136
>can dish out 2000pts 40k army
>that is, clean plastic without paint and terrain
>Compared to 300pts infinity+plasticard terrain+painted

What the fuck
Are you know what your talking about m8?
Are you always play with yourself?
You can always part the terrain cost with other players m8, and its not like you must buy set of terrains for every army you build.

CB even give free printable terrain kit if you feel cheap.

>>48843910
He must be sucking something fierce if he can buy a 2k 40k army at the same cost as a 300 point army.

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Infinity is way cheaper than 40k...

And weapons packs come with ITS kits and spec ops blisters...

>>48842298

Spend $100-120 on plastcraft buildings (single and double modules) and you'll have enough terrain for a 4x4 table. They're durable >enough< to hold up to play and mild abuse and don't look terrible. They're also way easier to paint than MDF since they don't soak it up.

I've spent about $300 on Infinity minis and have about 3 dozen models to choose from, and another $150 on a mix of plastcraft terrain and MDF scatter terrain (stuff like jersey barriers from model train companies). Compared to my 40K ImpGuard, (3000 points so I have plenty to choose from to get to a 2000-pt game), I've still spent less than half as much in TOTAL on the entire Infinity game/terrain selection than I have on just the 40K minis.

>>48843056
There is.
it's called the old-as-fuck models with CCW and chain :v

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>>48842915
They show the last chain in the diorama shot, but it's easy to confuse for a double if you don't know what to look for. Pic related is box contents.

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>>48841738

To be fair, these are the first minis I've painted in ten years. They're also twelve year old paints. My dark flesh was literally a lump of pigment.

These are some of my best minis. I have shaky hands always manage to fuck up areas I've already done. At least they look good at two-feet.

>>48845393
Get new paints, then thin them. Also have something to rest your hand on while you paint, that helps me a lot.

>>48842983
He's talking about WH40k Orcs, go back to bed Cuatro Vigina.

>>48833103
Spacing them like that seems alright.
The weapon options are questionable though. They can take boarding shotguns right?

Also don't just drop them all first turn.

>>48833169
I'm down with moborc brigada. I'm actually planning on turning all of ice storm into nomads.

>>48839316
It's a little small. You might get away with 6 inch deployment zones.

Terrain wise 4 of the cardboard terrain sets from CB will do you just fine. Add some barricades and you're good to go. Cut up wooden rulers and stick foam core to make little walls or some shit.

>>48843056
Building mine now. Atleast the two with only CC could be used as any profile.

Really don't need the combi though, but it should be an easy enough conversion as he's only one handing it.

>>48845393
give it a wash and itll look slightly better

>>48845581
>str3
>i2
>melee race

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>>48847149
Jesus he said red painted Orcs should move faster, do I have to spell out the joke for you?

>>48836626
Pretty much. Most importantly they're 0 SWC, so adding a MSR is a common option, especially for forces with inefficient or just plain crap ARO options. That being said, don't use Spec Ops unless you intend that your opponent will also cheese with spec ops.

>>48845106
I see now, thanks. Very good then, I guess I'm snatching a box of exploding priso... ehrm... patriotic heroes soon.

>>48849114
Is it wrong that I want the explosion skill for Haqq?

>>48849284
Ghazi are good enough t b h
Especially considering haqq wants to distance themselves from *those* muslims

>>48845581
>Don't know the "red goes fastaaaaa" meme originally comes from Quattro/Casval/Edward/a Char himself
>thinking 40kek do anything original

Kek

>>48850395
>Kawaji
wat

>>48851780

its ORKSS


REEEE

>>48845393
Not sure how shaky your hands are in comparison, but so are mine. I'm also a shit painter. New Vallejo paints and wet palette meant my stuff was pretty much thinned out of the bottle. It's crazy how much of a difference that can make. Also washes.

Your stuff could be like 8/10, closer up, with just a little prep/post work.

>>48832529
Tohaa releases this year have been lacking in numbers. I really we get a commando box rather then just a blister.

>>48844396
Are you being sarcastic?

>>48850395
So... how many people are going to repaint the Red Veil Khawarijs as a Djanbazan? I mean, super jump's fun and all, but... MSV2.

Also, how have people been using the Zhayedan? Marksmanship L2 on a breaker rifle's interesting, but I just can't help thinking that those 31 points would be better spent elsewhere. Anything I can proxy that for?

>>48858100
Zhayedan shouldn't be underestimated. They don't just ignore cover, marksmanship provides shock. And on a breaker rifle that means the enemy has to make both an ARM roll and a halved BTS roll for every hit.

>>48858372
Yes, but... 31 points. On a ARM2 1W unit.

>>48858492
He can put out more damage then most every other unit in Haq as long as they're between 8-16 inches. Besides that they're a little mediocre at least until they get put in a haris or 5 man link.

>>48858492
So be careful with him. Rifle ranges aren't great, but once he gets there he'll murderfuck almost anything.

>>48858492

haqq doctor can wake him up easily.

It would be better if zhayedan have no automedikit which is expensive and also not useful for ph 10 haqq troop.

Wow, one of my closest tabletop bros unfriended me because of my breakup. Like, I get that I'm not a good person and taking sides is wrong.

But after all you and I went through together, at the end of the day you took her side? Her? Whom you invited to Shadowrun and quit five minutes in when I bothered to roll up characters for myself AND her on 5e? Who stood by you when you quit the FLGS because the owner was a shithead to you? Who fucking started playing InfiNity because of you?

Good show on showing off your thirst, asshole.

Then again, you played Nomads and Tau. I shoulda known.

As my old man says, "pelo 'e crica hala mas que ancla 'e barco"

>>48859212
I got into Infinity out of solidarity with you, you fucking prick.

Yet she never bothered to even get into a pen n paper game you invited her to.

I ought to become a Warcor just to make a point.

Asshole

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>>48859212
>>48859267

wat

>>48859212
We already know you're a shitty person because you're airing your dirty laundry to random strangers. No need to repeat yourself.

>>48859267
>>48859212
Fucking normies this is the life you deserve

>>48832529
This game looks amazing, but it also looks like a big investment to get into and I don't know if I could juggle between this, X-Wing, Armada, and Destiny.

>>48860270
>Not playing Kingdom Death, Infinity, 40k, Xwang, Armada, Warmahordes and HoN.
Holy FUCK lad.

>>48860306
I used to play 40K, but I lost interest. I just read the novels now and even then I'm behind.

I just can't do all the miniatures for that many games. I have other interests other than miniatures, as well.

>>48860306
I've been wondering, what's the deal with Kingdom Death? They have so many nice models but they don't sell most of them.

>>48860540
It was like a massive kick starter that costed an organ and they're still shipping out models. They do reruns whenever they can on the store but it usually sells out in like an hour

>>48860540
limited runs as they're a "boutique" line. They're slowly expanding with bigger runs tho.
>>48860306
>HoN
which is this?

>>48859114
That could be said for most troops with automedikit, but it's especially bad in Haqq since they have super doctors everywhere. At least Djanbazans get shock immunity out of the deal, Zhayedans pay 4 points for effectively nothing.

>>48860270
Do it. Buy the sexy spacemans and gather up some junk from around your home to use as terrain.

>>48860306
>playing 40k
Wew lad

>>48860856
I think most of us made that mistake at some point.

>>48861083
I think most of us are clean. He's talking about actively playing it still

Anyone use Avicenna in Bakunin? Doctor Plus for less than a Reverend Healer seems nice but she's a bit squishy and easier to kill?

>>48833103
I always question the HMG when the spitfire seems better.
However in recent light i wonder if a simple shotgun wouldn't be better, because it does the same thing, but doesn't cost so much when the phy roll fails, the hellcat deviates in front of the entire enemy force and gets removed without having done anything.

>>48833169
Here I am, pulling my hair out wondering how to paint my dudes with a good paintjob, and here's you just slapping on paint and yet it looks good.

>>48840662
>>48840636
>>48841738
>>48841783
>>48841789
oh come off it guys. At least his models are painted.

>>48861395
Different roles. BSGs are made to be dropped every time, while it's often better to walk on a spitfire. Combi rifles are more useful defensively in suppressive fire.

>>48842780
Y..You get different weapon options in your box ?
Oh...we don't get those. For instance, I would have never bothered giving a missile launcher to a Jaguar, I'd have them all as chain rifles.
Same for Riot grrls, I usually shotgun or combi only.

and there's no bitz portal. and yet i hate proxying. Especially with our local yu jing player.
>so i move here
"ah this guy looks like he has a combirifle, but in fact it's a missile launcher"
>isn't that one over there the missile launcher guy
"well i don't have the models yet, he has a hmg"
>this other one actually has a HMG
"yeah but those nisses are actually just basic dudes with combis"
>is this motorbike actually a motorbike?
"yes, obviously"

>>48861482
I think it's just Kuang Shi and a few other old models like the Guarda de Assalto.

>YJ player
>using PanO models to proxy
He insults the honour of the state empire.

>>48861432
What about assault hacking devices? I find them lacking, and yet so many nomad models have them. including the hellcat.

>>48861599
You haven't met my local yu jing friend. He would use warjacks if the bases were the right size.

>>48861607
They fuck over hackable units. That's pretty much all they can do, but they're good at it. As a tip, the only time you should ever use an AHD program that isn't carbonite is if you want to isolate a guy who you've already used carbonite on.

Just wrote up this list, looking for your thoughts on it.

Ariadna
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

GROUP 1 10
SCOUT Lieutenant Ojotnik, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29)
SCOUT (Forward Observer) Ojotnik, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
LINE KAZAK (Forward Observer) Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
LINE KAZAK (Forward Observer) Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
LINE KAZAK (Forward Observer) Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
UXÍA McNEILL (Covert Action) (CH: Limited Camouflage, Superior Infiltration, Specialist Operative) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / 2 Assault Pistols, AP CCW, Knife. (0 | 27)
VETERAN KAZAK (X Visor) T2 Rifle, Light Flamethrower / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 38)
GRUNT (Inferior Infiltration) Heavy Flamethrower, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 11)
GRUNT (Inferior Infiltration) Heavy Flamethrower, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 11)
112 Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 12)

GROUP 23 / 2 / 2
SCOUT AP Sniper Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 29)
TANKHUNTER Portable Autocannon, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 34)
IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8)
IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8)
SPETSNAZ (CH: Mimetism, AD: Parachutist) Boarding Shotgun, Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, Knife. (0 | 33)

3.5 SWC | 300 Points

>>48861660
thx for the tip !
So far our local group hasn't really done much hacking (there hasn't been much to hack: 1YJ player, 2 ariadna, and me)
So far I've just been using hacking to upgrade muh REMs.
I think i can impersonate too, no? Custodier with HD+ ?

>>48861723
HD+ can impersonate and set down white noise, both of which are massively useful.

>>48861756
i dont even know what white noise does, and impersonate, how does that work with Optical disruption device?

I'm going full Bakunin; Feminazis, space nuns and furry FTFW.

>>48862205
White noise lets you place a circular template inside your hacking area that basically acts as anti-smoke. It blocks LoS for units with any level of MSV.

I think you have to turn off your ODD to activate impersonation, but people can't shoot at you while you're an IMP marker anyway so it doesn't matter much.

There's a link to a hacking helper in the OP, it's really useful.

>>48861385
doctor plus so she heals on 18s or less that is pretty amazing. Riot grrls have 2 wounds each, they love Avicenna.
Also avicenna has no wound incapacitation, so can heal herself.
With a lil' bot helper she is fucking everywhere.
>Dykes & transgenders, what can i say man?

>>48861482
>>48861618
Tell him to stop being a faggot and start providing a complete list of what's proxying what to the opponent. Each and every game.

>>48861599
Alt arms are in: Kuang Shi (chain/BS), gen2 Galwegians (rifle/BS), Myrmidon Officer (combi/BS), Suryat (multi/pistol), Lunokhod (HFT/Akrylat), Intel (rifle/nothing), Shinobu (2 poses for CCW), and the GdA you mentioned (multi/spit). Also, weapon packs and cosmetic alt heads (Spec-Ops and the old combi Malignos).

>>48861427
True that. I have a dude in my group with absolutely terrible paintjobs (like, actually worse than bare metal) and no one gives him shit because
- he actually cares about playing with painted stuff (he'd buy a model the day before a tournament and paint him that same evening to the proverbial "3 colors and wash" standard. In a meta with absolutely 0 painting requirements.)
- he's getting less and less shit

>>48840485
train your paints

>>48840485
i just dont get people who shell out for premium minis but then treat them like shit with either budget paints or don't follow instructions to paint them in a respectful way.

>>48862746
Thing is, even if we had a list, it isn't easy or fun trying to remember what all his different things are.

I have trouble enough knowing what my own stuff can do !
-micron wide LoF from ARO's on the other side of the table
-hacking abilities
-initiative or deployment?
-which weapon to use?
-when and where to drop troops
-what defence against hidden deployment TO troops?
how to manage an order spam ariadna list full of camo and parachutists
suppressive fire?
link teams?
combined orders? erm the one where you spend a cmd token and an order to move up to 4 dudes.

So yeah, even with a list I don't even want to be looking up what his proxies are in the current game.

I do appreciate help for that list of things though :^)

>>48861696

lack of mimetism or camo hmg could be a problem and I'd prefer to take 2 chasseur minelayer basically. but this list is generally workable and balanced.

>>48861660
>only a single usable hacking program for AHD
Bravo
Fucking hilarious

>>48863857

forgot to mention one thing. if you want to use tankhunter for attack, move tankhunter to group 1. but as an ARO piece, tankhunter ML, scot guard ML, cateran or scout sniper is better.

>>48863913
there are several programs! But carbonite is better, that's all.

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Just finished painting up the Nomad side of Icestorm plus my favorite model in the game, the Bandit. Was definitely a learning experience, completely changed my process, and painted more skin and hair than my entire history of painting. Lined up properly, you can even see how each improves over the last. Gonna cover back over the Reverend Healers base later though, tried to add something extra with splodging on some wash, but didn't end up liking it.

>>48863960
That's the point lol
>balance

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I came up with an idea using all ava of blackjack w/ T2 sniper. how do you think?

>>48861607
>>48861723
Assault Hacking Devices allow Claw 3 programs, allows the player to take REMs, and turns the model into a specialist, so it can accomplish objectives. Also, hacking doesn't require LoF so it's powerful in mid-field AROs.

Claw programs are as follows:
Claw-1:
Blackout - save or be Disabled (comms equipment do not work until fixed by an engineer)
Gotcha! - save or Immobilized-1 (no actions except discover/reset)
Overlord - save or TAG is possessed
Spotlight - save or targeted, allowing other units to hit it easier

Claw-2:
Expel: expels the pilot from a manned TAG
Oblivion: save or Isolated (disable comms, cannot use orders from Order Pool)

Claw-3:
Basilisk: as Gotcha! but more targets
Carbonite: As Gotcha, but DT ammo
Total Control: as Overlord, but DT ammo.

>>48863743
Having a list for proxies will, at the very least, keep your opponent honest.
>LoF from ARO's on the other side of the table
Use silhouette markers

>hacking abilities
http://www.captainspud.com/n3hacking/

>initiative or deployment?
http://wiki.infinitythegame.com/en/Initiative_and_Deployment

>which weapon to use?
depends, but generally, put your SWC weapons on more expensive guys that can actually use them. You'll learn as you play.

>when and where to drop troops
Depends. Lots of people like the reliability of using AD L2 (airborne infiltration). When you drop depends on what the AD troop is, enemy composition and location, and other stuff.

>what defence against hidden deployment TO troops?
Visors, direct templates, melee units, gutting enemy order pool

>suppressing fire?
http://wiki.infinitythegame.com/en/Suppressive_Fire

>link teams
http://wiki.infinitythegame.com/en/Infinity_Fireteam

>>48864065
>implying infinity is balanced

>>48864036
Damn son, what's your method?

>>48864229
Essentially, vallejo Ivory is the greatest thing ever invented. Start with a base paint, and keep adding that. In my case it was Mephiston Red from GW, adding a bit of Fire Dragon Bright and Ivory, then layering up and highlighting with pure Ivory, then finishing with a glaze of Bloodletter, since the Ivory tends to make them look like overgrown radishes by the end of it.
Completely out of my comfort zone since I used almost no washes, and shades most depressions by hand and only washed hair, bases and the ribbed texture on some of them.

>>48864211
;^}

>>48864229
>>48864271
If you want specifics I'm happy to go into more detail, just didn't want to clutter the thread with it.

>>48864271
>vallejo Ivory is the greatest thing ever invented
totally agree. Ivory is one of my favorites. It's great for highlights

>>48863913
Three, actually. Carbonite is the go-to and should always be your opener, but Oblivion is good for really fucking over a hackable rambo and Total Control can net you a free TAG.

>>48864208
Wiki is out of date regarding link teams. I'd direct new players to the HSN3 PDF.

Also you forgot sensor. I've found it to be the best way to deal with hidden deployment.

>>48864122
with my brain, usually.

>>48865031
We both know that's a lie, anon.

I just got into Infinity recently and holy shit, some models are a pain to clean up.

Aragoto Hacker for example: Minor mold slips all over the bike but most annoyingly in the tiny pits where the dials are, and those little exhausts on the bottom rear. Vent for the right arm is on the flat of the index finger instead of the tip, and was thick to boot. Vent on the legs ruining the boot treads. Generally a lot of flash and vents in awkward areas that are hard to reach, or where the shine ruins your ability to determine when it's been properly sanded down, but not too much so as to ruin / blend into adjacent detail.

Granted it's an old sculpt. I'm hoping newer sculpts have less issues.

by what magic does angel paint his models ? he fully glues them before even priming which seems absurd on some of the more complex models

>>48865972

There's a few iffy ones, but for the most part once you've clipped the sprue attachment points you're pretty much done for most of the recent stuff.

The Mavericks, for instance, didn't give me any of the issues you've described. Infinity's usually pretty good about mould lines, at least.

>>48860270
>big investment
>a full army with extras can be purchased for less than one week's paycheck from a part-time job
Wat

>>48864271
So basically, the off-white equivalent of VMC German Grey?

>>48866577
Time investment. Same reason I'm trimming my stuff down to 2 factions and some Malifaux. I wanna play WMH, Guild Ball, X-Wing and random shinies but simply don't have the time to paint it, learn the games, and git gud.

>>48866577
Terrains a bitch too if your lgs sucks

>>48858077
The new fifth ninja barely matches any of these.

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My first painted Infinity Model.

>>48868848
You gonna paint the lights?

>>48868448
Well, yeah, that's the point. Ninjas are getting new resculpts (so new JSA starter soon hopefully). And while MSR ninja has quite a nice bottom, they're not fantastic models, especially compared with the new ones.

>>48868995
Yes, but my blue paint dried out since i painted my last model about 3 years ago.

I just bought the new female Foxtrot.
I feel dirty for buying such a poorly posed model.

>>48870714
You should feel dirty feeding the spans money for crap like that

>>48870964
I know, anon. I know.

Which faction should I make the next comic strip about: PanO, Haqqislam, Nomads or ALEPH?

>>48873071
Not much out there about haqqislam so do them

>>48873071

Adriana

>>48873113
But there's nothing funny about Ariadna. Only cold winter, hallucinations from malnutrition, and death.

>>48832529
So I've been looking at this game for a bit and it seems pretty interesting. Although I'm a little overwhelmed by the number of different factions/options. I'm looking for a starting point for me and my group is the 2 player box worth it.

Also what faction is good for a beginner to infinity
which faction is the most fun

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>>48873168

You could make many funny things about crazy russians and americans using old technology in a world of body suits

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>>48858100
>So... how many people are going to repaint the Red Veil Khawarijs as a Djanbazan? I mean, super jump's fun and all, but... MSV2.

How do you plan to paint his coat off and paint big bomb suit armour onto him?

>>48873567
Define fun.
Read a little bit about each faction and pick one that sounds and/or looks the coolest.
If PanO or Nomads appeal to you, then the Ice Storm starter pack is great.
Everything you need to play.
Want Haqq or YuJing? Wait for Red Veil.
Neither of those? There's single army packs out there as well.

Unless you're one of those WAAC folks, just pick what ever floats your boat. There's usually options in most armies to play them how ever you want. Mostly.

>>48874088
Yah I looked up the faction overviews on bell of lost souls and wayward warcore, they had nice little rundown even though they kept mentioning TO Camo, MSV2, multispectral visors etc... I'm just not sure how much impact all those things have on the on the game, or how they would change the overall factions abilities.

>>48874219
Well, you could read the rulebook, and learn what all that means. Look up unit stats and see who's the best for you.

Or you could do the fun thing and pick a faction based on an aesthetic you like.

>>48873071
CA

>>48873071
>>48875409
Seconding CA.

Has anyone been able to register on forums, or contact CB at all lately?

I can't register with the forums at all and I've tried contact@ and store@ multiple times to no avail. I'm not sure what the procedure is now. Should I try to find a local WarCor and try to have them open a ticket on my behalf?

>>48875620
>Wanting to use the infinity forums.
For what purpose.

>>48875695
Same as this thread. Lurk. Occasionally post a list for C&C.

I don't actually care about the forum reg thing, but the whole deal has me now concerned that I can't reach CB at all with the regular methods.

>>48875620
emailed them like 2 weeks ago about missing bits and didn't have any issues.

Maybe they are still on post gencon siesta (which they don't deserve cause I wasn't nearly tittilated enough)

>>48875821
I usually just message them directly on facebook or something if they're being shady mexicans.

They reply pretty quick.

>>48832529
Looking to get people into Infinity proper with a few quick games. What's the quickest game mode you know of (besides Operation: Icestorm.)

>>48876443
Scrimmaging with 3 troopers and a trooper with a special weapon. If you're passed that. Jump into 100-150pts, do an easy objective game like, steal the bacon. All you do is access a terminal. Whoever, succeeds first and is able to get the data back to their DZ wins.

Am I able to swap roles/weapons of models? Say, if I have 3 Alguaciles and they're all carrying combi rifles, am I able to say "That one there is a hacker" or does that require a different model?

>>48873567
Morats are reasonably forgiving for a new player as they don't have as many toys and special rules to keep track of. Reasonably resiliant too.

They also don't care about leutenant death which is nice.

On the flip side having few tricks means you'll want to expand out into other combined army stuff for different things.

>>48877325
Something like a hacker is alright. In that case you could add something to the model to convey it for your opponent. Like say a visor, or if it's a once off just put a bit of blu-tac on the base or use a marker.

Stuff like this combi rifle is a HMG and this combi rifle is a missle launcher is where it starts getting shitty for your opponent.

>>48877325
Proxying is generally accepted, especially for stuff like hackers and small weapons. Just don't be a shitter about it and use an Alguacil rifleman as an Intruder sniper or something.

>>48877459
I wouldn't say that. If anything, being one of the least tricky armies in the game and not being really shooty or having great resistances to make up for it makes them pretty hard to play. Especially since one of their biggest advantages is smoke and most of their smoke platforms are EX impetuous.

>>48832529
>>48832529
Tempted to start the degeneracy sectorial for Nomads until Tunguska is released. Give me something to collect while I wait for new tohaa stuff

>>48873790
>doctor model
WE

>>48877906
I guess that's true. Visors and stuff give me a lot of issues with my morats.
However I will say they have been great for actually teaching good fundamentals and playing well.

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>>48878319
Custodier Haris is a tempting thing to me.
I know Riot Grrrls are mechanically good, but I don't like the models.

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>>48880775
Riot Grrls are getting new models so maybe they will be better for you.

Thoughts on this list? Doing my main attack link of the hisen and imperial agent with the CG as a defensive link

Imperial Service
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GROUP 1 10 / 4
HSIEN Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (+1 | 57)
ZHÀNYING (Fireteam: Haris, Sensor) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nimbus Grenades / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 27)
CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
CELESTIAL GUARD Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 20)
LÙ DUĀN Mk12, Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21)

GROUP 24 / 1
IMPERIAL AGENT (Sensor, X Visor) MULTI Rifle, 2 Nanopulsers / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 52)
CELESTIAL GUARD Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
CELESTIAL GUARD Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 17)
IMPERIAL AGENT (Chain of Command) Red Fury / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (1 | 35)
WARCOR (Sixth Sense L1) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)

4.5 SWC | 299 Points

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>>48880873
Put another Zhanying in there, you need 3 dudes in a haris link to get that tasty +1 burst. I'd probably give the Hsien an HMG too, you're lacking long range guns and already have several good midfield killers.

You should have all your CGs and the Crane in the same group if you're linking them. Also, generally you need a good ARO weapon in the link to call it a defensive link. I'd probably drop the Crane, it doesn't serve much of a purpose if you aren't going to be aggressive with your core link.

LGLs on Celestial Guards are complete garbage. Don't take them.

Honestly I'd probably even drop the Rui Shi. It mostly exists to be a budget Hsien, so if you already have a Hsien it loses a lot of its function.

>>48881113
How about now

Imperial Service
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GROUP 1 10 / 5
ZHÀNYING (Fireteam: Haris, Sensor) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nimbus Grenades / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 27)
CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
IMPERIAL AGENT (Chain of Command) Red Fury / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (1 | 35)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
HSIEN Lieutenant HMG, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 61)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
ZHÀNYING (Fireteam: Haris, Sensor) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nimbus Grenades / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 27)

GROUP 25
IMPERIAL AGENT (Sensor, X Visor) MULTI Rifle, 2 Nanopulsers / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 52)
CELESTIAL GUARD MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 21)
CELESTIAL GUARD Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
CELESTIAL GUARD Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
CELESTIAL GUARD Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)

6 SWC | 300 Points

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>>48881189
You only need one unit with the haris skill to form a team. The other Zhanying can be of any kind.

>>48881222
Hmmm what should be dropped then if this is the case, cause if I go with another Zhanying option I am over a point at 301 wit hteh senser profile

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>>48881493
I still support replacing the Crane. He's not really doing anything useful if you're keeping the CG link at the back, and you could buy something nice with the leftover funds like another Pheasant or a Lu Duan.

I'd go for something like this, just as an example.

I'm thinking of a way to make painting my models faster. What's a fast, good looking method of painting the armored dudes? Currently I do layer upon layer blending and nonsense.

Thinking of spraying them with army painter crystal blue, giving them a blue tone wash for the armor, then edge highlights. Think that'd look okay?

>>48881610
hmmm I suppose I will go with that then, I just really like the crane model and wanted to go with it.

>>48881631
That's fair. You don't need to put it in every list though. You can always make another list later with a Crane/CG link designed to be used aggressively. You just need to make sure you've got some long range guns outside the link, since riflemen are liable to get picked off by MSV snipers as they advance.

Which of the PanO Secs are good? A buddy gave me the Bipandria model, and i heard she's good in fire teams. I wanna try a fire team out, but not sure which Sec i should run for a Fusilier fireteam.

>>48881755
NCA. ASA can't take Fusiliers and MO can only bring 3.

>>48881829
For NCA, what's the better Jotum stand-in, Uhlahn or Squalos? Moving from vanilla PanO

>>48881877
Squalo. Uhlan is lightweight and made for camo shenanigans, while Squalo is largely a hammer to beat your enemy over the head with.

>>48882060
>>48881829

ORC Lt(Boring and dependable, ho!)
Sierra Dronbot
Clipper Dronbot
Fusi with OP, Repeater
Fusi with MSR
Fusi with CR
Locust- BCR, D-Charges
Machinist
Bipandria
HEXA Hacker with KHD, CR
Squalo with MHMG
3x Palbots

299 points
Does this look workable? This is mostly already models i have, i can convert a locust from an Akalis and all i will have to buy is the Squalos, who looks cool as hell anyway.

>>48882138
Pretty shit desu

You've got a clipper and only one FO, a different remote would be better
Your link only has four dudes, get five
KHD is a good plan, those can defend your TAG from hackers pretty well
You don't really have a way to deal with camo. Pathfinder or Aquila is my recommendation
NCA is famous for its guards, I'd replace the Orc with one and make the Squalo your Lt. You may need to switch around the profiles of some other troops, but it should be worth it.

>>48882311
How's this, Senpai?

Squalos Lt
Fusi with CR
Fusi with CR
Fusi with CR, Repeater
Fusi with MSR
Bipandria
Machinst
Locust- BCR, D-Charges, DA CCW
HEXA with CR and KHD
Aquila with MR

300 on the nose

>>48881829
MO can take five fusiliers or did they nerf that too in HSN3?

>>48882998
mo never could in n3 at least. the only way to get a 5-man fusilier team was with spec ops and bipandra

>>48883071
I could have sworn that was a thing, is there any way to check older versions of infinity army? Or are there still scans of the older army lists?

>>48882998
MO has never been able to pack more than 3 Fusis, not even in N2.

>>48883102
ALEPH toolbox, yo. It's what I use to remember the old days and how much better we have it now.

Hey folks, I'm just starting to get into the game with a friend, and I decided to go with JSA specifically. From what I've noticed in regards to orders and how they work, it seems that I want a good amount of troops to generate stuff and some aces to stack orders on. Would that sound pretty solid?

Anyways, here's a list based on my understandings. It's also meant to to be build off of two starter packs and a TAG (can't spend too mjuch right now).

Group 1:
Keisotsu CR x3
Keisotsu HMG
Keisotsu ML
Tokusetsu Eisei (Doctor)
Domaru LT (for free LT that can actually survive some hits)
Kempeitai CoC/BS
Oniwaban
O-Yoroi

Group 2:
Keisotsu CR x3
Oyama "Neko"

299 Points

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bumping with sad snek

>>48881829
With Bipandra + spec ops you can make a full link in MO though.

MO really needs cheap KHD option. With hsn3, combo of new KHD and old trusted AHD is deadly for knights and remotes. Any previous precautions against hacker such as fersen or father knight hacker is too easily killed off by a KHD

>>48884043
Defersen needs his fucking normal hacking device back
Actually he needs access to HD, AHD and KHD

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So I'm just coming into this game and dicking around in the army builder. I'm getting the YJ half of red veil and tried to come up with a half-assed list that uses all the minis in the box, plus some blisters to get to 300pts without proxies.
The kicker is, I'm kinda picky regarding the AESTHETICS of my army so I stayed away from the JSA scum and awful old minis and came up with this:

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HSIEN Lieutenant HMG, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 61)
ZÚYǑNG HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 35)
ZÚYǑNG Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0 | 29)
YĀN HUǑ Hyper-Rapid Magnetic Cannon / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 54)
TIGER SOLDIER Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 33)
ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)
KǍNRÈN Forward Observer Boarding Shotgun, Chain-colt / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 26)

6 SWC | 300 Points

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So famalams, from 1 to 10 just how much does this list suck ass? I know I'm gonna be order starved, and the stupid combi zanshi aren't the most exciting models ever, but it's the better I could do given my self-imposed limitations. Consider that I'll play mainly against other "new" players, nothing fancy just 20x20 and sometime ITS rules.

>>48884924
Zhanshi/10

>>48884924
Hmm. Do you not like the Guilang models? Even the Combi Rifle one still holds up really well. Also, I always recommend the REMs.

>>48886826
I'm not that guy, but I wish the Guilang models would get resculpted already, I don't like the look of them. I personally blame it on the helmets mostly.

>>48859212
>>48859267
4chan is not your Twitter account.

>>48887211
All these years I thought 4chan was my blogging site like live journal. My life has been a lie

So I tried to make a QK list including all the horrors my opponents had problems with so far (The Bashi Bazouk being my favorite), whatcha think?
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>>48883536
>good amount of troops to generate stuff and some aces to stack orders on
It's more true for for YJ than it is for other factions, given our terrible cheerleaders, but you need to think about what happens when your O-Yoroi eventually gets killed.

Firstly, in that list, the Oniwaban will be in hidden deployment so that Group 1 only has 9 regular orders. You have a TAG (and not a great one at that), so you want a full 10. Swap the Oniwaban to group 2.

Secondly, that 2nd combat group is doing nothing: Oyama's fine but melee is not something you want to do (it's sort of a trap option in the game), and those Keisotsu can't do anything. You need specialists for objectives (typically 4 per 10 models), and you have 1 (the Eisei's a good doc, for what she's worth, though).

Thirdly, while a basic line-infantry link is usually fine for most sectorials, Keisotsu are possibly the worst line infantry in the game, so keep that in mind if you're going to spend SWC on them.

If you want to play to JSA's strengths, then you'll probably want to invest in Haramaki Zensenbutai. They get a large points discount for being extremely impetuous, but you can cover that up with a link team.

Other useful units to take a look at:
Raiden Seibutai: the HRL profile provides solid templates for a good price

Remotes: the Husong Yaokong's important to YJ because we generally have very poor ARO options. This one's reasonably effective and cheap. Also, the Rui Shi: JSA doesn't have visor units, so having a MSV2 spitfire REM is useful.

>>48884924
Will get hacked to shit/10
Personally, I feel that's way too many HI, not enough orders, and not enough... balance to the mid-field.

Why the Zuyong paramedic? PH-3 means revival between 45% to 55% for your important pieces (read: not a great use of orders), and you can save a point by going down to the better FO option (and take advantage of Zuyong WIP13).

You've got poor ARO choices here, so if you're set on a Yan Huo, why not take the dual ML + neurocinetics?

Why no CG+KSD? Even if you don't take the Kuang Shi (and you really, really should), dat light smoke grenade launcher. Also, CG hacker would be nice for the Fairy Dust, if nothing else.

And that poor Kanren will be very exposed and lonely without Daofei or Guilang support.

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Your favourite Infinity unit breaks down your door and starts acting yandere towards you!
How do you survive?

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>>48889353
I play qk so...

I would just give her my picture so she could quietly pine for me alone while polishing high caliber weapons.

no pedo

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>>48889353
>>48889681
preferably dresses like this though. I really wish the real lisques did.

>>48889353
>Sphinx
Oh fuck.

>>48889353
CARRY ME AWAY MOBILE BRIGADE CHAN

>>48889353
>Custodier or Gecko
I'd just fanboy for a while and probably be okay.

>>48881615
Looks fine for a mass battle game. But if you're already proficient with blends why not make your max 20 guys look great?

>>48889353
>Joan

I do not like my chances against 15 Physique.

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>>48889353

>SAS

So are there any independent nations left on Earth or did Pan-O and Yu Jing gobble them all up?

I'm looking into the rules of this game before I pick up the two player box and I have a question about face to face rolls, I'm by sure if I'm retarded but the wording in the rulebook didn't click with me.

So I'm going to run off a hypothetical scenario to see if I'm understanding this right.

Model A makes a shooting attack at model B both are out in the open at a range that doesn't grant modifiers. Model A has a burst 3 gun so he rolls 3 dice, model B uses his ARO to make a BS attack.

So if we assume both models have a BS of 10 and model A rolls a 9,5 and 17 and model B rolls a 10, that would mean that of the 3 attacks model A has. The 17 missed, the 9 was canceled out by the crit from model B and the 5 hits. Where as Model B hits with the 10. This results in one hit on both models who then need to make ther armor saves.

Like I said I might be retarded for not understanding this core concept.

>>48891223
There are some "minor nations", but they don't have much of a role in the grand scheme of things.

>>48891303
A dies, crits are auto wound and cancel everything lower

>>48891303
Only B hits. All rolls lower are cancelled. And in your specific example the 10 is also a crit, so if A had BS14 and rolled an 11 but B rolled 10 at BS10, then B would still win.

>>48891303
I'm just starting as well, but I think the Crit cancels everything out but a crit.

Likewise I think higher dice cancel out all lower dice and if the 10 wasn't a hit it would still cancel the 9 and 5. Although I'm less sure on this.

>>48891462
>if the 10 wasn't a hit it would still cancel the 9 and 5
No, a miss is a miss.

>>48891377
Alright. I hope they put out a political map for Earth, I think it would be cool to see how its divided.

>>48891383
>>48891418
So for example if A rolled two 9's and a 1 and B rolled a 5 A would hit B twice and B wouldn't hit A.

So the highest roll will cancel out all enemy rolls below it, or is that only in the case of a crit

>>48891514
>>48891462
Sorry meant to say "if the 10 wasn't a crit"

>>48891539
>So the highest roll will cancel out all enemy rolls below it
Yes.

>>48889353
I don't. It's the Caskuda.

So they have Christians, Druze, Sikhs, and Muslims in space but no fucking Jews? What the hell?

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>>48892437
It's New Islam, son.
We took care of the Greatest Problem of our time.

On a related note: what do you guys think?
I've only ever played QK so far and I've never really tried infiltration and disposable (or at least low value) individual strikers before.
Would something like this work?

>>48889353
I bang the Tohaa girl.

>>48889353

Odalisque.
HA-HA Jokes on you! This is what I've always wanted!

>>48892437
Jews just hang around in everyone else's nations like they've always done. There's probably a bunch in PanO and a few in Haqq and Nomads.

>>48889353
Posthuman.
The best way to get a harem.

>>48892437

Eh, maybe O-12 will include Neo-Israel. A hyper brutal IDF sectoral would be pretty baller.

>>48894973
Bureau Noir and Bureau Aegis are probably going to be the O-12 sectorials. Maybe Toth with a bunch of ALEPH units as well.

>>48894973
They can specialise in fucking up the Druze. I can dig

>>48889353

>Al Hawwa

Probably capitulate immediately, because either she's a (presumably) cute naval intelligence agent, or he's a crazy-haired guy with a shotgun and I'm getting fucked either way.

>>48889353
>Yuan Yuan
Accept the rape.

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>>48886826
The Guilang I feel is showing his age too much, expecially in the weapon design, but I like him a lot from a gameplay perspective so probably I'll swallow the pill and get the combi one. I just wish CB would resculpt him and the Daofei, I'll buy them in a hearthbeat.

REMs are cool and I'm strongly considering buying the Lu Duan + Rui Shi box, but they would be even MORE hackable units on top of what I already got. I'll get them for sure eventually.

>>48887750
The Zuyong paramedic I put there for the sake of specialist variety for scenarios that require a doctor, I have slim hopes of actually using the skill to heal people.

The ML Yan Huo is a nice suggestion, I was blinded by the sheer DAKKA potential of the HRMC but this is a more sensible choice, I'll make the switch.

As for CG, I guess I can use the Zhanshi as proxies for the time being and the smoke GL sure is tasty with a Hsien, but another hacker I'm dubious about. I already got the delicious Ninja KHD and the Tiger AHD, the sculpts are amazing and I'm hesitant to bench them. Is FairyDust really that necessary when I already have 2 offensive hackers to cover with (not trolling, honest question)?

For the Kanren, I thought the Ninja was enough presence to support him but I'm not so sure of my reasons, I'll get a Guilang to keep him company in the long cold midfield nights.
Another thing that concerns me is order starvation on the first turn, between the hidden Ninja, the AD Tiger and the camo Guilang I'm afraid I'll place few actual bodies on the field.

Anyway thank you for the insight, I'm going back to the army tinkering machine to smooth out the list, let's see what comes out.

>>48892437
There's a Jewish province on Bourak.
Or they do strictly non-combat stuff, like Exrah for CA now.

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>>48892437
From the RPG
>Haqqislam is a tolerant society, welcoming visitors and immigrants of all ethnicities and creeds. It is particularly open to fellow “people of the Book” — Christians, Jews, and Muslims of other sects. There are many close-knit minority religious communities in the various cities of Bourak. Perhaps the most famous is the bustling Jewish Quarter of Dar el Funduq, the largest such community on the planet. ‘Infi dels’ have a special tax status, which exempts them from certain taxes that finance Haqqislamite religious activities. Instead, they pay a solidarity tax called jaziya, spent on social needs of the wider community.

There are Jews.

They got some new stuff coming out within the next week, so I will post up the new pdfs for the RPG later on.

>>48889353
>>Anaconda pilot

...well shit...

>>48889353
>Literally the Uberfall
Well, fuck. Hopefully the Cop personality is stronger than the Chimera personality, or I'm ending up as a skin-face mask.

>>48898236
>Irregular
>EX Impetuous
Yeah, I don't like your chances. Better hope you've got a good enough headstart to outrun 6-4.

>>48889353
>Naga qt
Please protect me, ALEPH!

>>48889353
>Tankhunters
Why, I open a bottle of vodka and hope it's a qt kazak girl under all that armour.

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Well then she will take care of me at least.

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>>48889353
>Asura chan is coming for me

I have some mixed feelings about this

>>48896528
> Is FairyDust really that necessary when I already have 2 offensive hackers
Well, it's effectively -6 to hack attempts, so even if you don't use it, it's a good deterrent. Also, if you do happen to get a Rui Shi, you get, with Assisted Fire, a MSV2 shock spitfire that ignores cover.

>Tiger AHD
You could always proxy it for the paramedic profile (save a point, still get a useful specialist), if that's your thing

>camo Guilang
Camo is not Hidden Deployment, so the camo'd Guilang provides his order to the order pool as normal.

>order starvation on the first turn
Yeah, definitely a problem, especially with so many expensive units. I'd be a bit wary about using so many HI, but that's just me. Plenty of people get along fine with 8 or 9 starting orders, though.

How does this list look? I am not sure if I should switch the t2 rifle vetern kazak to the paramedic just in case, but should be fine with just the doktor.

Ariadna
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GROUP 1 10
LINE KAZAK (Forward Observer) Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
LINE KAZAK (Forward Observer) Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)
LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)
LINE KAZAK AP HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 23)
LINE KAZAK Lieutenant Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)
VETERAN KAZAK AP HMG / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (2 | 47)
KAZAK DOKTOR Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
SPETSNAZ (CH: Ambush Camouflage) Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW, Knife. (1.5 | 34)
VETERAN KAZAK (X Visor) T2 Rifle, Light Flamethrower / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 38)

GROUP 25
HIGHLANDER GREY T2 Rifle, 2 Light Shotguns, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 33)
HIGHLANDER GREY Rifle, 2 Light Shotguns, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 29)
DOZER (Traktor Mul Control Device) Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
TRAKTOR MUL Katyusha MRL / Electric Pulse. (1 | 11)
GRUNT Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)

5.5 SWC | 299 Points

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>>48899320

T2 rifle vet kazak is superior to AP variant generally. you can draw paramedic from line kazak or metro. for paramedic does not use model's wip, cheaper option is usually better.

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>>48898803
ALEPH is already yandere for humanity.
Being controlling, pretending to be your friend and insanely jealous (to a murderous extent) of people that tell you to break up with her, or worse, hook up with another AI.

>>48899515
If ALEPH is yandere, does that mean the EI is tsundere?
>It's not like I need you to achieve enlightenment or anything, b-baka!

>>48887750
>>48898950

I took good note of all the suggestions and came up with this.

GROUP 1 10 / 4
HSIEN HMG, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 61)
ZÚYǑNG Lieutenant Combi Rifle / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0 | 27)
CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
CELESTIAL GUARD Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 20)
KǍNRÈN Forward Observer Boarding Shotgun, Chain-colt / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 26)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)

GROUP 23
YĀN HUǑ 2 Missile Launchers + TinBot C (Neourocinetics) / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 56)
GŬILÁNG (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)

6 SWC | 300 Points

Sadly I had to leave out the Tiger, and for the time being I'll just proxy the zhanshis as CG. It looks more solid than the first one though.
On an unrelated note I need a rule clarification. Suppose a model stands behind a short wall, in line of sight of an opponent piece. I use an order to go prone (outside LoF) and move + anything else, do I give the opponent an ARO for the "drop to the floor" part of the order?

>>48899363
Yea I think I am somewhat happy with this list, not a whole lot of chamo but we got the two grey's with smoke so that should help. Three good ARO pieces as well.

>>48899602
I have a new understanding of why I started CA in the first place.

Caledonian Highlander Army
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GROUP 1 10
CALEDONIAN MORMAER (Fireteam: Haris) AP HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2.5 | 43)
CALEDONIAN MORMAER Lieutenant (X Visor) T2 Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 33)
HIGHLANDER GREY T2 Rifle, 2 Light Shotguns, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 33)
HIGHLANDER GREY AP HMG, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 34)
VOLUNTEER Paramedic (Medikit) Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
VOLUNTEER Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 8)
VOLUNTEER Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 8)
ISOBEL McGREGOR T2 Rifle, Flash Pulse, D-Charges, E/Mauler / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 26)
VOLUNTEER Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 8)
VOLUNTEER Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 8)

GROUP 22 / 3 / 3
CAMERONIAN 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / AP CCW. (0 | 23)
CAMERONIAN 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / AP CCW. (0 | 23)
CAMERONIAN 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / AP CCW. (0 | 23)
VOLUNTEER (CH: Limited Camouflage, Inferior Infiltration) Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
VOLUNTEER Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 8)

4.5 SWC | 299 Points

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>>48889353

>Faher-Knight

Holy fuck. Time to make my last prayer, or hope he meets a heretic on his way to buy me time.

>>48901563
Don't worry, it's not like he's a Magister or something. FKs are meant to keep the crazier knights in line, so you should be reasonably safe.

Just make sure he doesn't find out about your degenerate fetishes.

So would Infinity be one of those settings you would actually want to be in?

The thought of being an Adrianian does suck but the scouts look like bandits so ill cheeki breeki some animus to get a good time

>>48901901
Well, living as a tech-hermit on Acontecimento sounds splendid.
That or Bakunin.

>>48901901
Yeah, living in PanO/YJ/Haqq/O-12 would be alright as long as you aren't in the lower class. Things seem a lot like today, but more advanced and better managed.

The whole alien invasion thing is a bit worrying, but it's not like much would change for the average person after the war. I don't care which AI is in charge or whether my corporate overlords look like giant cockroaches, as long as I don't get shot to pieces by an angry Morat.

>>48899620
>Do I give the opponent an ARO
Yes. If the unit is being activated, and the enemy has LoF at any point during the order, he has an ARO.

List looks pretty solid.

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>>48901901
Being middle class in Pan-O/YJ/Haqq means doing less than 20 hours of work per week for a living standard that's significantly higher than the vast majority of "middle-class" in our world.

>>48906408
Dat camel toe

>>48901901
I'm reminded of that fluff quote from a Briscard reminiscing about each faction's women.

>>48907193
I got u, senpai.

"Of course, mon frere, if there are good reasons for enlisting in the AEC and going out there, they are the women. It may seem an exaggeration, but they are all very hot. C'est incroyable! And while it's so difficult to choose, there are some for all tastes. PanOceanians are quite sexy but they are all affected poseurs. If you like the exotic and hysterical kind, you have Yu Jing. The Haqqislamite chicks are the ones that smell the best, they are as pretty as they are delicious. O-12's public servants are very hot in the manner of a sexy librarian. And the Nomads...mon dieu! Nomads are all strange. Very, very sttrange..."

Adjudant (Warrant Officer) Jean-Fransois Dunan, Zouaves, Regiment Special d'Intervention, on his return from his first tour in the AEC. A week later he signed up for his second tour.

>>48907569

I fucking love Adriana sometimes

>>48907569
...I gotta use zouaves more. Having e/maulers midfield is always fun, and sapper HMGs make for great speed bumps.

>>48901901
pano, yu jing, nomads (bakunin or Tunguska) all look pretty good

I want a Military Order list that uses six Magister Knights. What's the best way to get them up field without being blown apart?

>>48909472
Only use 4 cause that's how many you can get in a link team
Anymore and the extra out of link ones will be hot garbage

>>48909472
put 3 or 4 in a link, and put them with a Hospitaller or Santiago. Run them up. End of your opponent's turn, unlink them, let them go insane on your Turn 2.

>>48909472
Link 4 of them with a Hospitaller or Santiago. Use the spares as disposable warbands, since that's their job.

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>>48909472
Easy you run a 10 Heavy Infantry List with 2 core links of course that means three magisters will be impetuous the first turn I wouldn't worry about it too much.

>>48910372
>2 core links
I've got bad news.

>>48910391
Form another link after your first is up the board.

>>48910419
Why not just form a Santiago duo and let the 3 impetuous dudes get up the board themselves? I'm not totally opposed to switching links but it seems like it would be more trouble than it's worth in this situation.

>>48910497
That works too.

>>48895467

I honestly dunno what either of those is. Where can I find O-12 fluff?

>>48910612
There's little bits here and there in all the fluff books. You really need to look for it though, it tends to be buried in fluff pieces for other factions.

Bureau Aegis is O-12's 'peacekeeping division' (read: military), Bureau Noir is the secret service and Bureau Toth is in charge of managing ALEPH. There's a few other bureaus, but they're in charge of stuff like terraforming and medication so they're not really army material.

>>48910795
There's also some stuff in interviews, just in case it wasn't hard enough to scrape information about them together.

>>48910795
The o-12 rpg fluff shall be coming out soonish, so you can read about it there

>>48906408
That must have been scanned. Crazy to see a dosier in that quality.

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>>48911823
The gencon ones are very high quality.

>>48911823
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B1r4n-YFfa-SM1RNNU9KMGhVZWc?usp=sharing

All the dossiers of at least passibale qulity and some that are lq

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Made a Minuteman into Crossbones. Probably a bad idea to show off the LT, but it lets me play aggressive with him.
How bad is it?

>>48912127
I...I'm gonna level with you.

...hella.

>>48912391
I feel the armor came out looking chalky. The white/bone I'm happy with, tho. I wanted that particular part to look like a rush job by a guy who's aesthetically inept.

But is this all fixable in the "you need to do more detail work" or is this a case of needing Simple Green?

>>48912673
I'd strip it personally. The annoying thing about trying to make something in world 'bad' takes really high technical skill to look right.

>>48911864
I want Bakunin just for Taskmasters now

new thread

>>48913638

>>48912127

Thin your paints, and get a better point on your brush. More care with your highlights and paying attention to the details like the goggles, the straps, and the guns would help a lot.