>The bbegs bullets track people like a aimbot. >The problem

>>48777311
Adding in normal bullets and going full danmaku.

>>48777311
>What are some ways to make these bullets a actual threat
They explode.
They phase through matter until they hit their target.
They have sudden bursts of speed
They can switch directions to avoid being parried or evaded

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>>48777311

There's a lot of them.

A lot of them.

A

LOT

OF

BULLETS

>>48777434
>You tried.jpg

>>48777311
Have it so they only need to touch you to dump a ton of damage on you- they explode on contact, they dissolve into a super-acid that melts whatever touches them (can be used to destroy weapons or shields used to block them), ect.

>>48777311
Wait, are the bullets going slowly or are the characters involved super fast?

>>48777311

They do not stop seeking their targets, even stopping to let other targets move out of the way so they can get at their true target.

Bullets have been known to travel on public transport across the country to find and kill their targets when they least expect it.

>>48777459
Bullets are slow as fuck rather than just the party being fast.

>>48777311
Fill the room with bullets. Track every bullet, 1 space of movement per turn. If they collide with a player then they deal full damage.

>>48777488
Then don't use shitty slow bullets and use you aimbot to score headshots or the equivalent.

Why would anyone go out of their way to make slow bullets?

>>48777311
They have the intelligence of a dog or simply behave like a homing pigeon, able to navigate around obstacles and able to track down their targets at extreme distances then drill them in their sleep, also give them pack mentality

>>48777518
>Why would anyone go out of their way to make slow bullets?
Thrill of the hunt.
Toying with their prey.
Killing has become so easy they need to gimp themselves to get a challenge.
Slow bullets are easier to control.

>>48777311
>BBEG sets a bunch up in advance
>fired from multiple directions
>penetrate through whatever you feel like
>they're only slow until the first one hits
>course can't be changed by external means except messing with the BBEG('s gun)
>fired at plot sensitive NPC
>fired down a long straight corridor

>>48777553
nah, t.b.h. this whole concept is just retarded bin it

>>48777311

He also turns the floor to ice or mud or something else that inhibits movement.

>>48777311
How slow are we talking? Because a slow-motion bullet is still plenty fast. Maybe give PCs a dodge roll to evade, but that just means the round overshoots X metres before reorienting. You better put BBEG down fast before you're all rolling ten dodges a round with death for failure.

>essentially slow moving hunter-killers

I fire everything
Everyone dies
GG

The bullets will bypass any obstacle until they hit their target. This would require the party to either stop the bullets, or defeat BBEG before they get gunned down, but that's just my two cents.

>>48777553
How slow tho?
Could you walk from them?

Other obstructions

Room filled with traps to dmg/immobilize

Room filled with other enemies who dmg/immobilize

Hold Person

bbeg at the end of a narrow hallway and uses them to cover escape

>>48777311
Force equals mass times velocity. Bullets have small mass, which means they don't have much force unless they have high velocity.

Slow bullets are stupid.

Why are the primers that recessed?

Almost anything but literal bullets would be much cooler and less... stupid.

>>48778020
because people who dont know shit about guns try to model guns and ammo without doing real research

>>48778063
I just noticed the shells say 12ga.

>>48777938
So slow they might as well be coming at you in a little bullet wheel chair.

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>>48777311
Easy

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>>48778017

>>48777311
How about he just uses regular bullets? Those are pretty threatening.

>>48777311
They never stop and they go through anything in their way until they hit their target.

>>48777311
He fires them from a plane while you are on your way to work.

BAM! You get shot without even knowing you had to dodge.

They can target somebody at any range and will never stop. Just inscribe their name on the bullet and pull the trigger. You have now forced someone to be on the move their entire lives.

I'm also a fan of the "if you get hit, not only do you die, you are erased from history" trope.

>>48782275

You gotta be real careful with that trope. I've encountered too many things that use that over-the-top stuff as window dressing.

On the flip side it can also kill the mood.

>BEHOLD THE QUAD LASER
>THE BULLET IS ENORMOUS THERE IS NO ESCAPE
>Jumping... is useless!

>>48777311
Have the bbeg herd the players into areas with little space to maneuver. Have the bullets think for themselves. One bullet might sacrifice itself to pierce a gas pipe or something to hinder the group and let the other bullets have a shot at killing.

Does the bbeg have a good social savvy? Maybe have him spread rumors that anyone tracked by the bullets is cursed/a traitor/pedo/whatever This could have the players get paranoid about npcs. Does that girl really want to help or is she looking for a way to tie them to a pole and watch as the bullets approach?

>>48777311
>They phase through matter
>They never lose momentum.

You can outrun them but they'll follow you, forever and dog your every step.
One day, when you are an old man sitting alone, comfortable and forgotten all about them; you'll see them in the distance. In you panic, you slip and fall - breaking your hip in the process and you can do nothing but wait for the inevitable as they advance towards like a personification of Death himself

Just make the bullets indestructible, able to pass through anything, but only visible to their target.

Like "It Follows", but with bullets.

Also they should move at a walking speed. That's slow but it's still scary and they *will* catch up with you at some point and kill you. You will only get to live and sleep as fast as you can move.

>>48778017
Force is mass times acceleration, motherfucker.

What you want is kinetic energy, which is one half of mass times velocity squared, which makes slow bullets extra stupid.

An idea:

The bullets are slow, perse, compared to sub-sonic rounds. As in, they have a velocity of about 100km/s rather than about 350km/s from the slowest round. This is so the bullets have a small cone of error correction, say, 50mm lateral per 3 meters travelled. Thus, if a character is standing 9 meters from the business end of the gun, there is 150mm of play/correction in about 1.5seconds or less. That on its own is pretty scary, especially if the rounds are acidic or explosive.

Note, explosive rounds can hurt real bad from splash, as can virus/acid blast bullets.

>>48778586
So if they are so slow how would they hurt anyone?
They'd be lacking in kinetic energy, you could swat them aside and be done with it.

>>48777311
This is close, but not exactly what you were trying to avoid:

The bullets are VERY VERY VERY large, and you might escape and outrun them, but they're going to smash cities on their way towards you.

They're not meant to just harm you, but make you an outcast from the doom that follows you, a long term siege weapon personally targeted on you.

Of course, the BBEG has enchanted them to pass through himself, his base, etc., so trying to stand opposite of him from them isn't gonna hurt him.

>>48783032
Honestly I think this would just encourage the players to write their name on the planet with the bullet's swath.

>>48777449
>You fried.jpg

>>48778196
Somebody post this on /k/

>>48783091
Fuck, probably would also do things like giant dick drawings

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>>48778017
>Force equals mass times velocity.

pfft, that's just an old wives tale. Everyone knows that an axe, even if swungly slowly, will do 1d10 of HP damage to a person struck by the slow moving axe.

Remember how swords and knives went out of fashion a century ago once people realised you could render yourself immune to their attacks by wearing armor made of scabbards, and so everyone has to use weapons that are too awkwardly shaped to fit inside scabbards? Same dealio, at least until people start wearing armor made of bullet clips.

The fight takes place in a maze of corridors. As soon as the PCs enter the area, the BBEG starts shooting down random hallways and air vents, so the PCs are constantly getting attacked from all directions before, during and after they reach the BBEG. Also, the bullets are smart enough to aim for the least protected part of their target, so armor is useless unless it covers the entirety of your body.

>>48786653
Seconding this, but also add traps so the bullets act as a timer.

>>48782968
It's magic, the bullets retain the kinetic energy as if they were travelling at Max velocity but are moving slowly.
Fucking wizards.

>>48777311
Easy, make the gun also slow down time as well so that now everything moves at the same speed as the bullets. You've just enforced bullet time on everyone, have fun.

>>48777311
The bullets move slowly, but they don't stop, not for anything.

The party dismisses the slow-moving projectiles as a non-threat and forget about them.
A week later, the party is asleep, when they are awoken by a grinding, creaking sound as the bullets push through the timbers of the inn. The only way they can actually kill you is if you get stuck in a corner so they can force their way into your skull, but it means the party can never stay in one spot for too long.

Kinda like "it follows" or this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VDvgL58h_Y

>>48786653
useless

>turn corner
>oh no, there's a bullet!
>5 minutes later
>oh no, it' about to hit me!
>walk around bullet

>>48787595
> The only way they can actually kill you is if you get stuck in a corner so they can force their way into your skull
better be a really small corner, or else you could just walk around the bullet.

Even if it does hit you, like when you're sleeping, you'll wake up when you feel something pressing really hard against your skull, then just get away from it

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>>48777311
>12 GA

>>48777311
Why don't you just change the stats? It's your game after all.

>>48777311
instead of bullets, give him a racket and a squash ball. He tries to hit the players as if it were a game, only the ball has deathtouch. The only way to kill him is by hitting him with it first. Git gud.

>>48784872
B-but you can easily cut through scabbard, especially if you pull out sword with wide arc like a retard instead of pulling it in straight line.

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>>48777311
Perhaps do it over a long distance. The target won't see it coming until it's too late. Depending on how slow a bullet in "slow motion" travels, it can still be pretty fast. If you're expecting it you can dodge it easily, but if you're not then you might still be dead meat.

What's the setting?

>>48778017
The only excuse for this would be that the wizard involved was some combination of a complete idiot and a magical savant.

All he's done is made a gun that's much worse at killing your opponent before they kill you.

I mean, a guy with a regular gun could just shoot you dead after calmly assessing that your bullets weren't likely to hit him any time soon.

>>48790550
Thing is, players fucking HATE being killed by something without any indication that it was a threat, or any significant chance to avoid it.

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>>48782890
>100km/s rather than about 350km/s from the slowest round
>100km/s
>100,000 meters
>per second.

>>48778017
Just imagine, though, it's like a horror movie killer. No matter where you go, the bullets are following you... and eventually, you have to sleep. You find a place you think is safe, and you finally settle down to rest... only to wake screaming as the bullets begin to slowly push their way into your flesh. They keep you pinned in place, digging millimeter by millimeter into your skin while you sit, helpless, unable to do anything, until one of them finally burrows into your heart and you feel the sweet release of death.

Lmao,this is probably the stupidest idea i've seen lately on tg,like why the fuck would you use slow bullets nigga that pretty much defeats the purpose of a gun.
No amount of developing this can make it not-stupid

>>48782395
Oh good I got worried for a sec.

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>>48777311

>huh, looks like .300 BLK but why is the primer recessed so deep?
>12 GA

>>48777434
You know I have ask where this is from

>>48791714
Vanquish.

>>48778017
>Bullets have small mass
You don't know that. The bullets can be large, or made of very dense material.

>>48791736
Cheers

Make the bullets sneaky as shit and able to increase in speed via a "lunge".
This way you'll never know where the attacker is shooting from.

>>48791774
Well it's still pretty low, as in most bullets are weighed in grains kind of low

>>48777311
Rub sooth on bullets, shoot at night. They won't see them coming.
Alternatively dense fog / smoke or other vision obscuring effects at daytime.

Engineering-tier solution is - take "aiming" bullet, on the tip attach small remote controlled detonator, on the detonator attach regular bullet (that can be fired by activating the detonator).
Shoot the whole contraption - aiming bullet will travel slowly but will reliably seek target, once the aiming bullet stabilizes in single direction, indicating it found the target, activate detonator and fire regular bullet in that direction at, well, speed of a bullet (which should be impossible to dodge for most common men).

>>48777311
Make the bbeg use them to herd the pcs, running around using the bullets to force them to choose between taking the hit and stepping into something potentially worse like a trap or the attack range of his minions.

>>48791842

what if the bullet continually expands to several feet tall and gains in mass as it does so? What if it's a neutronium bullet (where 1 earht mass = 1 tablespoon)?

>>48791706
That's what I was thinking...

>>48792369
If we're going to be pedantic about it, I might as well point out that you'd never be able to get enough propellant behind it.