Here is a deal for you. If you chose to accept. >Humanity

>>48713343

So safer 40k warp travel?

>>48713540
Basically. Could just design the ships to be as anti siege as possible.

So Event Horizon?

>>48713343
Fuck yeah, solve 90% of our problems and replace them with a common enemy? Sounds like a dream.

>>48713343
>intergalactic travel about two times safer that Egyptian airlines
deal!

>>48713343
How tough are the demons?

>>48713938
You know some crazy religious fundamentalists would mess it up with some end of days bs. People are to dumb to agree on anything, even demon attacks.

>>48713343
So just make every ship hyper militarized starshiptroopers style with halo overtones?
I always wanted to have protracted siege warfare punctuated with super-guerilla tactics to the backdrop of bulkheads and vacuum.

>>48714050
Literally the Demons from Doom without the cybernetics.

>>48713343
Basically Stellaris-style Extra-dimensional incursion but on a regular basis

>>48714104
Fortunately they'll be killed by the demons.

That said, if the ftl stuff causes demon attacks then just have ships with modular ftl drives. Put on two modules, use one. When it becomes demons you detach it wnd use the backup.

>>48714210
Only when starting up a new colony's permanent power supply, if said powerplant has failed, or a slipspace drive had a 1 in a 1000 hiccup. Seems reasonable to me. I would love to see the Mass Effect races react to it though.

>>48714186
Isn't Mancubus without the cybernetics really just a morbidly obese dude? I mean, that's still something you don't want to run into on a flight, but...

>>48714219
Holy Fuck that is a good idea! And funny as hell!

>>48714050
You ever play doom? They're tough enough that eventually they can overrun you but guys with guns and relatively advanced power armor for a setting who's date is "sometime after 2140" can apparently hold them back using long kill corridors and proper tactics.
In setting the tech they use at mars base routinely causes demons to pop out so the demon incursion warning isn't all that rare. It seems basic procedure is effected area's are cut off from everywhere else by shutting all the doors in the sector, prepping a kill team, opening and closing doors as needed to let the team in or funnel shit into their guns, then sending in the clean up crew. It is however accepted fact anyone including soldiers stuck in the initial spawnzone will probably be long dead as they are locked in without help or backup. They even have stable bases located in hell itself and they pump "ardent"(hell) radiation like we pump oil for powering the world purposes.

>>48714292
Yeah but you could get really unlucky and get Hell Barons.

>>48714321
So just fortify the fuck out of each Portal power station thingy and a colony should be fine. Hell put each power station in a remote canyon or whatever.

Ships would be harder though but do able. Long Corridors, halls, blast doors, auto turrets, and well drilled teams should do it. Also >>48714219

>>48714416
Thats basically what they did at mars base. The whole thing was built with fortification and kill corridors in mind between and in major sections ready to be locked up tight. Think halo style ships with gun racks in every area, mobile troop shields, and death corridors with built in shutters.

>>48714558
Yep. Just plan it right and have back ups for when things eventually go wrong to minimize damage. Great deal.

>>48714295
"Hep cap'n!"
>"What is it chief?"
"Our starboard engine sent full demon, vented it just now so we'll be flipping over to the port module in an hour or so."
>"Again? Worst of luck. Those things aren't cheap and we blew one out a couple years ago too!"
"Yeah, well we travel more than most. Still, the old module is in visual. You want to see the infinite hordes of the damned invade the void and explosively decompress?"
>"You know what, yes I would. Inform the men, we'll make an occasion of it. And get to looking for a new module when we dock."

If the Demons of Hell didn't hate us yet they will now.

>>48714690
That'd be good fun.

>>48710673
Science fantasy is so cool.

>>48715561
Could be used to break the ice with aliens.

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>>48713343
Hell yeah.
I'd make ships like those russian nesting dolls, when the outer shell gets infested with demons you jettison it and fly around the next layer until you have to make another jump, and so on.

>>48715678
That seems like a HUGE ass way to waste material and money. Are you high?

>>48714664
And yet it didn't work and they all still died

>>48715919
Which is when the entire facility should have self destructed. Odd.
Although doomguy might count for a self destruct device.

>>48715879
No, I design for Games Workshop.

>>48715919
see>>48716012
This tech is fine if you are properly prepared and drilled on what to do.

>>48715919
They all died because the overseer was arrogant enough to believe that the Satan worshiping cultists in their faculty could be kept under control.

>>48715678
>>48715879
the Covenant from Halo have ships that do something similar to this to combat the Flood.

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"Excuse me... you based your civilization on what?"

>>48716158
Damn cults.

>>48717377
>all ayyliens use FTL that doesnt summon demons
>humanity constantly shrugs off extradimensional demonic invasions on a monthly basis

I want a story where an ambassador on his way to Earth has a demonic incursion on the huamn vessel he is riding in. He freaks the fuck out but Dave the demon janitor just goes "Ah shit, here we go again. I though Jensen down in engineering fixed this shit last week."

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>>48713588
so you'd succeed every time, unless you knew nothing about it, or whoever is initiating the warp is doing it for the sole purpose of sacrificing the crew to demons.

>>48716661
>>48718085
Krogan would love it.

>>48718085
"Calm down, it is just *Shot gun blast* a maintenance issue!"
>"Spirits! These can't be natural!"
"Of course not! They are Demons! Didn't you read our reports on culture and technology?"

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>>48713343
DOOM?

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>>48719242
DOOOOM!

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>>48719262
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

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>>48713343
>Demon invasion
>33% chance of semen demons who just want to have fun
>33% chance of potato demons who just want to talk about economics
>33% chance of goat demons who want to be the onee-san
>1% chance of imps who sit on your shoulder all day and call you a faggot

I can live with it.

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Hell yes deal

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>>48719596
>Kill the ebil demons.
>They keep cat calling you inside your head.

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>>48713343
Does humanity get Power Armor and plasma weapons as part of the deal

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>>48719596
>33% chance of goat demons who want to be the onee-san
>no Shub-Niggurath onee-san to tenderly invade your orifices ;_;

>>48719873
If you can't develop Power Armor and plasma weapons with near limitless energy you don't deserve it as a species. We are already making those WITHOUT it.

>>48713343
Within a couple generations you'll have a huge market for badass maintenance people, which sounds like a great job for the PC's.

Combine that idea with Traveller-like spess exploration and ayylmao's using slower-but-no-demon FTL a la >>48718085 and you've got a great setting. Might get a little HFY, but it'll be fun having human-only quarantine areas on space stations with a priest-on-call to check human tramp freighters for babby satans behind the hull panels.

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>>48720353
True I just wanted to know if it came ready made or at least with the knowledge instead of having to design it from scratch

>>48720100
Damn waifu fags would try and rig incursions!

>>48720424
Huh.
I could run that using modded only war/rt rules i guess.
Do it as a firefly/doom sorta thing.
>Get a crew, get a job, keep the demons down, keep flying
Hardest part is convincing non humans to fly.

>>48721297
What are they pussies?

>>48720424
I like the idea of priests and exorcisms working as well as good old firepower. So you get Russian style mass blessings on spaceships and equipement. Although they statistically really do help keep demon numbers down. Fire teams proceed down ftl modules throwing around holy water bombs to clear any incursions while escorting a priest and a whole host of space age superstitions pop up about warding off demons.

/tg/ came up with some damn good superstitions for space actually,wonder if there's an copy of them anywhere or if ill have to search the archives.

>>48721297
>Why didnt your species conceive of a method to travel the stars that didnt involve demon tech?
>...other methods?

Watch humanity be the one dumbass species whos cracked ftl via punching holes in reality, but lacks in literally every other department.

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>>48714273
>"So, ambassador, why are there auto turrets and fully equipped marines in every room of your ship? Surely you can't suspect us of treachery?"
>"Oh no, they aren't for you!", chuckles
>"Then what are they for ambassador? Your own crew?"
>"Nah, they're for the demons"
>"Wut"
*Alarms begin blaring**cumputerized voice begins to warn about demonic incursion*
>"Ambassador, what's going on?!"
*suddenly, shotguns drop from the ceiling into the waiting hands of every crew member*
All begin chanting:
>"RIP AND TEAR! RIP AND TEAR! RIP AND TEAR!"
>They arrive at the Citadel with the entire council representative team, guards and all, crying and heavily traumatized
>The human ship, meanwhile, recieved a new paint job and a prowhead made from a Baron of Hell
>Humans are henceforth known as the only species who are more hard core than krogans
>Shepard's face in the first game with the new society he represents

>>48713343
>Hell isn't invading because it hates humanity (it does that anyways)
>It's invading because those fucking humans are stealing airspace and causing infernal cooling by stealing all the heat
I can only see a champion of Hell picking up an old-fashioned flail and set of armor and whining about those 'damn humies stealing our airspace again'.

>>48723053
Found those threads in the archive. Well worth a read, especially if you're planning a space campaign like traveller.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Space+superstition

>>48724589
>well ambassador it actually helps starting colony's
>every time demons attack we kill them and gain a lot of biomass to help get farming going
>you would be amazed at how good a fertilizer dead demons make

>>48725897
>demon meat steak is a prized rarity
>some crew members with a taste for it actively hope for an ftl failure

>annoying-ass high pitched alarm goes off all over the ship
>DCC announces over the comm
>"Demon! Demon! Demon! Hell breach in the second deck CS berthing two-tack-one-zero-eight-tack-zero-tack-lima. All hands don PPE and charge weapons."
>one or two younger memebers of the crew are freaking the fuck out like "Holy shit we're fucking dead, man!"
>everyone else snickers and jeers at them while casually slipping into their fireproof coveralls and loading rounds into their magazines
>one of them bursts out of the head with his uniform half-on, pitching a serious fucking tent
>"I swear to Christ these fuckers wait til I'm jacking it before they pop in and screw everything up."
>"OH MY GOD GUYS HOW CAN YOU BE SO CALM?!"
>one of them walks over and shoves a battered grey battle helmet with a smudged visor over the kid's head and shoves a heafty shotgun into his chest
>his voice crackles through his own identical helmet's speaker
>"Shutup, Johnson. If you don't bag at least one chief'll put it on your eval."
>"But-"
>without warning, the older crewman lays his hands on the kid's shoulders and shares with him a friendly headbutt
>"RIP AND TEAR." He could hear his supervisor even without the voice enchancer
>then everyone began to rush through the door, chanting the same thing over and over

I'd DM it

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>>48726337
>one of them bursts out of the head with his uniform half-on, pitching a serious fucking tent
>"I swear to Christ these fuckers wait til I'm jacking it before they pop in and screw everything up."
Holy fucking kek

>>48718085
So wait, this setting would have Viscera Cleanup Technician be a regular job?

>>48713343
What causes a powerplant like this to fail?

>>48726466
>every single janitor has a double barrel shotgun at all times
>alien bodyguards mocks them for carrying such archaic weapons as they brandish their own plasma blades and particle blasters
>incursion happens and janitors end up punching most of the demons to death
>more worry about the cleanup than getting through the fight.

>>48726576
Demons.

>>48726594
>It is common practice to mount the biggest demon's head of each incursion
>the biggest demons out of all the incursions are mounted on the prow
>There are even a few ships with Barons of Hell mounted on the prow

>>48726717
So... if the powerplant fails, demons will come... But the powerplants only fail if demons come..

So... The powerplants never fail?

Hell, I'd take that.

>>48726782
No, the powerplants fail *because* demons. And then demons come. Demons have extradimensional influence, but it's kinda hit-and-miss.

>>48726782
>>48726791
Alternatively, a portal to Hell opens because of how the powerplants interact with Hell, on account of their drawing energy from Hell. I dunno, maybe they open tiny wormholes into Hell, and the demons turn those into tears in space-time between the ship and Hell, which is bad because nobody likes Hell. Except the guys on the ship.

Now I imagine the demon armies standing at giant portal stations, randomly opening portals all day: "Empty space... empty space... empty space... empty space... empty space... empty space... SIGNAL NEARBY, LOCKED ON, PORTAL HOMING IN!"

>alien spies have stolen the designs for the hell-drive
>comparing the crew's nonchalant attitude towards these supposed "demons", they concluded it's a myth or shipboard joke
>now there's an experimental alien ship taken over by demons
>roaming the galaxy, being evil antagonist ship of upgefuckery
>the Anti-Normandy, nicknamed "Dunkirk".

>>48726904
The aliens don't want to admit to a) stealing tech, b) fucking up and losing their experimental ship.
The demons don't want to go on a public rampage yet, they're working on opening a stable portal.
A small team of human adventurers must track down and destroy the secret demon ship before the demons can establish a permanent hellgate and bring an army through large enough to invade an entire planet.

>>48726955
>Implying the team won't force the gate open on an uninhabited planet for shits and giggles, AKA RIP AND TEAR
man, I'm just imagining some rich asshole doing this to a planet and making a game show out of it
>Whack the Demons!

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>>48726977
Terrible idea. The longer a gate stays open, the worse mobs Hell can shove through it. Permanent stable gates will lead to escalation from Barons of Hell up to Counts, Dukes, Lords, Princes, Presidents (pic related, its Buer) and other really big nasties that will eventually overwhelm any team of adventurers. Eventually you're going to have to Exterminatus the planet.

>>48726977
>Welcome to Demonic Park

>>48726862
Ah shit it's the crazy guys, lock it down. I'm not having my animus spark in the twisting oblivion for another millennia. I only reincarnated a couple centuries ago.. there are easier pickings.
Oh don't look at me like that Finksinssks. Cowardice is a perfectly demonic trait.

>>48714104
I'm pretty sure the existence of demons would render them correct.

God, you people are so arrogant it makes you retarded.

>>48727294
Exeactly that's why they'd ruin it. You'd have way too many people praying instead of instead of turning hellspawn into minced meat.

I ain't the end of the world until you lost the fight.

>>48727337
But that anon has a point, if demons exist, the power of litanies against evil do as well.

>>48727046
Well depending on if the hordes of hell are infinite or not. That might be exactly what you eant

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>>48727046
>tfw that's just how humans terraform planets
>tfw being knee deep in dead it literal

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>>48727606
>Pic related is the foremost expert on demonic security and terraforming

>>48727606
Okay, at this point I gotta say the concept of "hell" has been pretty much watered down to Dimension of Comic Relief Cannon Fodder.

Can we Make Hell Great Again somehow?

>>48727634
>Humanity clones him
>his clones have terraformed millions of planets
>sometimes they just make a planet by setting up a portal on an old ship or asteroid and just keep killing until the pile of bodies reach planet size

>>48727702
We don't need to.
We are the hell now

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I fucking love you guys

>>48727719
>tfw the demons learn humanology
>the demons begin summoning and binding our world leaders to do their will
>anyone trying to organize resistance gets summoned and sealed into a little jar

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>>48727719
>tfw we sucked up too much hell energy
>tfw we liked killing too muck
>tfw we killed too much
>we have become hell
>hell is calm, cold, and empty
>we get bored and fight each other
>eventually some faggots in another dimension start taking our energy
>we fight them
>we get our asses kicked
>tfw it is from the past
>we where in hell all along

>>48727781
I...This is getting too real

>>48726460
Welcome to every tank crew ever. Now add shit, piss, and constant 120F heat but minus the door.

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>>48726466

>>48727412
Nah. In lore religious shit does jack shit and you never see any actual damned. If the demons and scientists are to be believed hell works time in wonky ways that means doomguy:
A.left
B.never left
C.died
D.became a pseudo demon via bloodforging his body and soul by bathing in demon blood, same for his armor
E.left as a demi-demon/god
F.all of the above. At the same time across all timelines forever.
Either way its possible hell never actually gets souls of the damned in the ways we imagine nor is it the "biblical" hell you'd imagine. The bible did touch on inlore facts that certain symbols and a runic language of tongues can interact with hell and its denizens. They even search elsewhere for a heaven and find that hell is just sort of the no mans land between realities and sort of takes up all that space.

Tl:dr there is no heaven only hell and we either don't have souls in the way we think we do, they don't exist, or we get sort of melted down upon death unless sufficiently strong in spirit power into ardent energy the shit hells power comes form and the shit we've been funneling off as an alternative "green" energy source.

>>48728417
Well that's depressing

>>48728651
Well, there was a place that was sort of like heaven that kicked the demons shit in for a while with their own crazy magical energy, but the got betrayed and overrun.

>>48728417
>burning souls of the dead as "alternative" energy source
Yeah, that's pretty fucking metal.

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>>48728417
>>48729425

>>48728417

pretty sure the daemonspawn literally out and out say that the doomguy was blessed by the seraphim with great strength and speed, and the way he says it insinuates that this blessing was given after his world fell.

so their is a heaven, its just full of lazy douche nozzles who would rather let a mortal handle their job for them (which is basically what the bible says anyway as far as the angels are concerned)

>>48718085

>Most Major Ayylmao Civilizations have a Relay/Hyperlane Portal/whatever the fuck in their system.
>Minor Species tend to either be in a system without a Portal, but are still within subspace travel range of one, or had but were found before they developed Space Travel
>Network of Portals were initially built by precursors who all died for insert reason here
>Precursors deliberately performed terraforming on planets within the initial network.
>Life outside of the portal network is mostly incidental, and generally don't conform to any familiar shapes.
>Humans evolved on a planet far outside the portal network after drunken precursors countless millennia ago crashed a terraforming ship into what would be Earth.
>Bereft the portal network or any other civilizations nearby, Humanity has to invent their own FTL, which they call Slipstream Travel.
>Humanity finds Ayylmaos and the portal network half the fucking galaxy away.
>It would be too expensive for a series of portals to be built from and to Earth, so most Human ships are still built with slipstream engines.
>Technology of the slipstream engines are kept secret to non-humans, and there is a deliberate effort to hide information about slipstream travel from ayylmaos, so the only knowledge most ayylmaos have about slipstream travel comes second-hand from alien passengers on human ships as well as human crewmembers running their mouths.

Slipstream Engines themselves
>Slipstream engines work by giving a middle-finger to reality and punching a fucking hole in it for the ship to travel through.
>Ships travelling through the bizarre non-reality are protected by shields which protect it.
>However, both the shield and the engine use massive amounts of energy, and on particularly long journeys or if the ship wasn't prepared for the drain/hasn't reallocated enough power to both of them, they can fail. In addition, there just seems to be an aura of bad luck around the shield generators.

cont.

>>48724609
Fund it!

>>48730484

>Emergency shields ensure that, should the main shield run out of power or become inactive/get taken out, whomever on the ship wouldn't be screwed. atleast, not initially.
>However, there is a split-second inbetween the main generator turning off and the emergency generators becoming active where the ship isn't shielded, allowing the unreality to slip in.
>Unreality that slips in isn't enough to permafuck the ship forever, and the shield turning on forces said unreality to have to take a form.
>Naturally, form is demons. Or, atleast, hideous creatures that are called Demons. How many demons depends on how big the ship was and how long it was exposed to the Unreality.
>Crew are forced to fight off said demons whilst fixing whatever problem caused the main generator to fail, since the emergency generators will run out of power eventually.
>The demons still exist even if the main generator is fixed or they drop out of the Unreality. Specialized Demon-hunt squads tend to be assigned the job of cleaning up after the main problem is taken care of.
>If all shields fail, the ship, and all it's crew, ceases to exist.

>Bored Crews/Glory hounds frequently deliberately create tiny holes in the shield during Slipstream travel in order to do controlled "Demon Summoning".

How's that sound?

Do demons corrupt machinery or something?
Cause everyone is saying "we gots to have trained kill teams, kill corridors, etc"
Why not just seal them in and murder them with drones or design literal kill rooms that murder everything locked inside and remote activation so those valuable trained mooks don't have to randomly die as often.

>>48730418
Depends on what you consider seraphim in doomverse. You AND your armor are both sealed using demonic sealing technique until that idiot wakes you up to fix shit. You and your and subsist on demon blood or "Ardent Plasma", remember where ardent energy and thus ardent plasma comes from. Theres even files stating you may be like some sort of pseudo revenant or more evolved form as you were exposed to all that ardent energy through straight exposure to their worlds radiation and being literally knee deep in their dead for some time. Thats a lot of supporting evidence for demonhood and one statement that might just be the equivalent of a knight saying another knight "fights like a demon". We also know heavens dead and just another part of hell now.

>>48730743
Well...where's the fun in that?
>not wanting to RIP AND TEAR in Doomguy's honor
>Not having effigys made of demon bitz to Doomguy
What are you, the fun police?

>>48730743
Assuming its the unlimited energy from doom then its all using hell radiation as power so yes the machines tend to not be on our side during demon incursions. Thats why they made the death corridors and door system that was on separate circuits. Its how you play the game too. Send in doom guy, lock doors, now they're sufficiently trapped inside a rumblepot with a death machine, wait for doomguy to win, open gate to next area, repeat.
I suppose if you'd be willing to have an entire automated turret system wired up on a secondary circuit you could do it but like the other anon said, where would be the fun in that?

>>48730743
Well, one of the first posts had the idea of self contained modules that detach and self destruct or await remote cleansing and re-using later.
But there's not much you can build on with that. It's like saying "so why don't they just not go inside the spooky house with the axe murderer?". I mean, yes you could. But then what? They go home and make a cup of tea?

>>48730484
>>48730672
The Slipstream Engine stuff sounds great

>>48726782
You're forgetting to account for Jews. You see, the demons have a few agents on the mortal plane, and you never know when one of your engineering crew is secretly a Jew and will sabotage the hyperdrive to allow his extra-dimensional masters to cross over to the material universe.

>>48731627
I mean, I get that it's a meme. But it's also just not funny.
Not because of any kneejerk thing, but it's just not a very amusing post. Is that really the best you could do? Why not just replace jew with niggers for extra 4Chan Points™?

>>48731692
Just substitute it with cultists then. Same idea.

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>>48731627
105 posts. Good job. Also
>fowlpostingintensifies

>>48724609
>"So you're telling me the Krogans are riding those lunatics' ship's for FUN?"
>"Apparently they call it a 'training safari', sir."
>"We should have eradicated these 'humans' when we had a chance."
>"All due respect, sir, I don't think we ever did."

>>48733093
>Ayylmaos see humans in first contact
>see bony protusions in mouths
>see acidic spit expelled when ill
>See toxic waste expelled from EVERY Orifice
>see enormous amount of damage they can endure and still move forward
>See insane FTL technology they utilize
>Try to bluff them into believing you are not the most terrified you've ever been of a primitive barbarian race
>Report to your commander that a phage has just stepped into the universe, ready to destroy all
>Kill self.

>>48733227
HFY go home

>>48733227
hoonam then consoles your widow with sex.

>>48733227
We had a good thing going, and you ruined it. It was good, and you ruined it. Delete your post and go home

>>48736683
Nah, Jewposter got there first. We could have talked about that slipstream engine stuff. But no.

>>48736722
I already called jewposter out though

>>48736889
Didn't undo it. Just because someone is told they're a twat doesn't magically make them retroactively not a complete bellend.

>>48737033
That is what reeducation camps are for.

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>scientists eventually find ways to channel the demons to specific locations within the ship, or delay their appearance once a while
>they come in waves, and mostly appear in wide open spaces now instead of halfway through a wall or some other critical mechanism that would get damaged
>the crew get brief respite after each wave to actually try to fix the shielding.

pic related is the pilot instructor.

>>48713343
safer than say... actual planes or cars
sign me up

>>48737360
Kinda sad, innit?

>>48737360
Well, yes and no. When cars go wrong, they generally don't release giant monstrosities with hellfire

>>48738446
Exactly. Far less fun than demon power.

Do tiny demon power sources produce tiny demons?
If I have a hellfire watch, will it produce inch high imps every few years?

>>48738503
Nah, it's not like that. So, power plants use demon realm to produce power. It isn't the power itself that causes demons, but the source. So you won't have tiny demons spawning once in a thousand times you call someone.

>>48738446
And most of the time these won't either. 1/1000 chance of a Hell Baron is pretty good I'd say

>>48714219
Imagine that space trash though. Slipspace travelling ship compartment aimlessly flying through space filled with demons.

Planetes just got more hardcore.

>Human xenoarchaelogists stumble upon one other long extinct civilization that used Slipspace drives. Their ruins are heavily adorned with engravings of elephants and cheese wheels, and many artifacts recovered menace with spikes of opal.

>>48739939
>all craftspecursorship is of the highest quality

>>48716028
Fucking hell, you just made me fall out of my seat laughing

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Seems legit!

>>48740314
HEY! There'll be no bum tumbling Emperor worshipping in this thread. Only "rip and tear"-ing. And freaked out aliums. And Dave the Demon Janitor.

>>48739415
They have beacons on them telling people not to get too close.

Of course, some people collect them, link them together and create dungeons with them. Plus space adventurers can get some good money from purging lost modules and either flogging it off or selling it back to the previous owner, who often is the one with the encrypted key to get the thing started again without stripping it out and rebuilding it without the electronic security.

>>48739415
>>48740606
If you can put a beacon on it, you can put demo charges on it and make it not a problem anymore.

>>48742488
Shit's expensive since enough to warrant salvage. Not just scrap value.