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How do you think an aquatic civilization is likely to develop,

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How do you think an aquatic civilization is likely to develop, culture and techwise? Assuming fully aquatic and around human intelligence.

Without access to stuff like fire or paper I have a hard time seeing them getting very far beyond more primitive tribal culture.
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>>48713084
>paper
A lot of cultures were doing just fine without paper. There are a lot of alternatives.

>fire
For what? Cooked meat? I don't know much about this topic, but is cooking fish as important as cooking meat? You could say that they developed their dwelling around boiling springs.
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>>48713289
Melting bronze and iron, probably.
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>>48713084
Not very far.
Paper is useful but not essential.
Fire is needed to make pretty much every tool that is not a rock tied to some kind of pole, no pottery or metal tools for instance.
Since bringing something up to the temperature to melt metals would kill any aquaman due to the high thermal conductivity of water.
Chemistry would be extremely hard due to water diluting everything, and if you are dealing with things that are poisonous the aquamen would likely poison themselves.

Obviously all this could probably be solved in a fantasy setting with the copious use of MAGIC.
Also Amphibious civilizations could be possible if they do all the necessary stuff on land.
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>>48713289
A ton of simple things you can produce need fire man
As a very simple example, look up primitive technologies on YouTube, it's an Australian who went into the woods with only his bodyx began crafting simple tools, produced better tools from them, built several houses including one with a heated floor and is currently building a simple forge with the first success already (he made iron)
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>>48714669
Forgot the actual point of the example:
He uses fire all the time for pretty much everything as you need it to harden wood, make pottery, etc etc
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>>48713591
>>48713084
>>48714598
paper is non essential. Stone tablets are more likely.
coral can be shaped over years/generations to create extremely hard weapons/armor. Magical fortifications make these even better.
most metals corrode underwater to a degree. adamantium might have shown up here and there, but would be rare. Using volcanic vents would work for shaping most metals though. a ring of fire resistance would work great for protection
Chemistry would be difficult, but work-arounds can be found. the people in quesiton may have mild poison resistances.
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>>48713084

They chisel down information onto rocks and stone tablets. As such they are particular about what they put down which leads to a cultural habit of a things importance being written down. If you weren't important enough to have your name written in the cave of names then you were never worth remembering which is paramount to true death as one can live on in memory

If they are amphibious but can't completely leave the water then they could make use of clay/mud and copious use of sun drying so it wouldn't be weird to see several pots of shapes and sizes having been freshly made and left to dry during the day

While they do subsist on fish and Komu they also catch game by the ocean/riverside as well either ambushing them and dragging them in or setting up elaborate traps like water pits where prey will fall and drown and they come and collect the body soon afterwards.

While not exactly in dire need of shelter they can take the same clay they use for pots and make bricks to build simple mud igloos for various purposes and soon after humans take to the sea they make use of sunken ships as dwellings or take parts of ships to add to other dwellings.

While pearls may be baubles to them they might realize how useful they are when dealing with humans and harvest them from deeper down than humans can go as well as harvesting/hearding various other sea creatures such as lobsters and crabs.
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>>48714721
>coral can be shaped over years/generations to create extremely hard weapons/armor.
So no well equipped armies or the like because any weapon or armour needs years to be made
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>>48714721
>Using volcanic vents would work for shaping most metals though.
If you mean hydrothermal vents, they are not hot enough to do much metalworking. The hottest one found on earth only reached 464 °C, and that was only for 20 seconds at a time.
Not to mention that that vent relies on being very deep in the ocean to make the water supercritical.
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>>48714790
Ancient composite bows required 18 months of curing before they were ready for use.
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