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Why does /tg/ hate weebs again? I've never had a problem

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Why does /tg/ hate weebs again? I've never had a problem with most people that like anime or stuff like that in my games. Is this just a meme or have people had legit bad experiences with weebs?
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>Why does /tg/ hate weebs again?

It doesn't.
It's just two or three trolls.

Now, delete your pointless thread that those trolls will use to broadcast their idiotic views.
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>>48621332
>tfw weeb now means anything Japanese
that's not the word means and I hate it.
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>>48621440
>that's not what the word means

Weeaboo is a made-up word that /tg/ has given meaning: If you can't talk about traditional games without using engrish and/or kanji to sperg about ninjas, katanas or cartoon pedophilia involving loli ninjas with gigafolded katanas, you're a weeb. JRPGs are a bad enough pox on this board without weebs putting BEs and a SM on 40k and D&D.

Also, fuck off back to /jp/ and kys. TIA
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>>48623522
You are fucking retarded if you think that's what weeb means though. Also,
>cartoon pedophilia
No one is this stupid. Right?
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Cylindrical interests, obnoxious entry level knowledge. I had one weeb at a table argue about Ursula K. Le Guin/Moebius' influence of ghibli films, with a guy who talked to Hayao and his son a few times about it.
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>>48624060
>Cylindrical intrests
What do you mean by this? I hate weebs just as much as the next guy but I've never heard this mentioned in relation to weebs.
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>>48623589
You have to admit that japanese animation has put on its best efforts to give credit to the "cartoon pedophilia" crowd.

I mean the latest anime by the author of Ghost in the Shell, who was one of my favourite works ever and gave birth to the best series of animated cyberpunk works I have ever seen (the Stand Alone Complex series) is about two underage """robots""", one of which gains superpowers by literally fingering the other and has a transformation sequence where she's naked and moans "IT'S INSIDE MEEEEEEE!".

You know anon, I like anime, but it feels like the past ten years have been a race to degeneration, with everything good dying and all the trash talk about "cartoon pedophilia" becoming truer by the day.
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>>48621332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReMJow3vROY
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>>48624388
The author of Ghost in the shell didn't write that you fucking sperg
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>>48623522
>loli ninjas with gigafolded katanas
That reminds me, does anyone have the magical girl/ normal guy campaign screen cap? It was about a game where the anon unknowingly brought an average joe to a magical girl campaign and ended up being the crux of the team because he was the only one who could legally drive. It was a good read, but must have been really awkward on the table.
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>>48623522
You really are retarded and don't know your 4chan history. /tg/ had nothing to do with the origin of the meaning of weeaboo.

Weeaboo came from a webcomic called Perry Bible Fellowship. It was a nonsense word in the comic and came to mean Wapanese when mootles decided to wordfilter Wapanese to weeaboo and like a good forced meme it stuck.
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>>48624649
>Perry Bible Fellowship created the term weeaboo
Not the anon you are replying to but you are insanely stupid.
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>>48624870
Yes it did...
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>>48625092
That implies the term would've existed before that comic was made. So you are an idiot.
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The problem isn't weebs, or furries, or bronies, or HEMAfags etc. The problem is always Autism. But Autism is strongly prevalent within certain groups, and you know what they say about one bad apple.

My gaming circle is rather weebish, not hardcore otakus but we all watch anime, play japanese games to some extent and reference stuff like Final Fantasy in our games on the reg. There is very little autism involved and we have great games with strong roleplaying. Then there's that one faggot, I think he has legit autism or something, who plays nothing but pregnant futa Touhou reject magical girl waifus who try to fuck everything that moves and thinks that cropped hentai Steam avatars and senpai jokes are the height of human humor. So that's for a negative experience.
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>>48625323
>bronies aren't autism
nice try senpai
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>>48625323
holy shit, are you in my group?
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>>48625203
>Being this internet retarded
Are you sure you're old enough to be on this site?
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>>48625203
The point of the comic is that it's a made up word, you stupid nigger.
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>>48625323
>plays nothing but pregnant futa Touhou reject magical girl waifus who try to fuck everything that moves
And you let him?
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>>48625757
>i can't into context, the post
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I wish I was autistic enough to be a weeb.

i just want to know the inside jokes and watch good anime
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>>48626255
Start by going on /a/ and watching the airing shows and keeping up to date with current/modern stuff. Watch non-airing stuff that interests you on the side and pace yourself so you don't get burned out so easily. It's that simple.
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>>48623522
oh look one of the trolls now!
>>48623589
You seem to have grossly overestimated the intellectual potential of people in general.
>>48621332
My only beef is when they are over the top cringy about it and or use their anime as a basis for their mary sue/gary stu.
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>>48621332

There isn't a universal problem with people who like anime.

Weeaboos specifically refers to the early 2000's entry level type people with no self-awareness who have to inject 'anime styles' into games without any sort of thought put into whether or not something is appropriate.
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>>48626279
I heard /a/ was cancer?

I've been sticking to reviewers like Demo for the older stuff, but I guess I don't have anywhere else to learn about more recent cartoons
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>>48626394

/a/ is too broad a board to characterize like that.

Now people who are STILL TALKING ABOUT K-ON yes, they're cancer.
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>>48626409
Yeah, every board has it's people, ik, but thanks for the help. I hate halfassing my hobbies and looking like a tool.
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>>48626394
Demo is a shit memer and reviewer. Just watch stuff you like or people recommend to you. Take a look at anichart to find out what's airing right now and just watch that stuff. /a/ is arguablely one of the best boards on 4chan imho so I don't think it's as cancerous as boards like /v/.
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>>48626364
I guess my main problem is with people who hate anything Japanese and just label it as "weeb" without thinking (which is just as bad honestly)
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>>48626349
Mary sue/gary stu's are terrible no matter what though.
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>>48626668
/v/ is literally /b/
Demo is good meme and I share most of his taste so whatever.
Will definitely go to /@/ tho
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>>48626708
Example: Sword Art Online series.
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I think people who make fun of weebs are mostly anime fans themselves
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>>48626737
I guess I mainly don't like him because he tries to appeal to normies who don't go on /a/ but pretend like they do (mainly people who visit /r/anime).
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>>48626756
Say what you want about the SAO anime, but the LNs for SAO are a really fun read.
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>>48626773
Well I'm a normie in terms of anime so I guess that fits. Fuck his opinion on SoA and SnK tho.
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>>48626813
SnK is hugely overrated as is SAO but that's just par for the course, especially considering the demographic he caters to.
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I have no problem with people who like anime, I just wouldn't like a player playing as an anime style character in a setting where they didn't fit
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>>48626708
>Mary Sue ... are terrible no matter what though.
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>>48624388
Yeah he came up with the original concept the guy that made excel saga writes it
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>>48626834
Forgivable I guess, but then he does more obscure stuff? Idk if it is or not
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>>48626802
What's an LNs
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>>48626950
Such as? Because his "joke" reviews don't count since they are borderline irrelevant. He just does "obscure" shit to make his viewers feel smarter like they are true "anime connoisseurs"
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>>48626951
Not the anon you are replying to, but LNs are light novels.
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>>48626989
Like, honestly, if you like watching serious anime reviews on youtube you might as well fucking kill yourself.

Anime is a joke and anyone watching it is doing so ironically.
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>>48621332
I don't hate them, but in my personal experience they're the most unoriginal people I've ever met.
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>>48626989
Alien nine comes to mind, but you're probably right, because his bs is why I need to learn actual shit, with his references and general knowledge.
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>>48627020
I don't watch anime reviewers. I formulate my own opinions based on what other people I know think of the anime I've watched.
>anime is a joke and anyone watching it is doing so ironically
Because you can't watch an entertainment medium for serious enjoyment right? You are fucking retarded.
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>>48621332
Because they don't have any original ideas. One friend I know is a serious weeb and any time I ask him about ANYTHING requiring a personal opinion he always, ALWAYS, replies with "I don't know". Even something as simple as "Can you drive over in two hours for the game" or "What do you say to the barkeeper". It's like anime sucked any creative or original idea out of him.
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>>48627028
You can look up most of what he says on the internet on ANN or MAL on director/producer bios and such. Stuff like studio direction and voice actors are fairly easy to identify once you've spent enough time exploring anime as a whole though.
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>>48627072
No, you can't watch anime for serious enjoyment.

Unless you enjoy cute girls doing cute things or vapid shounenshit, in that case you're in real fucking luck.

You still have shit taste, though.
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>>48627094
I think that's more of a problem with him as person/his personality than anything anime had to do with his indecisive nature.
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>>48627098
His voice is great though and his content makes me chuckle so I'll still watch his shit, but I hate being so casul.

Will put in effort and order so bento. Away to /a/
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>>48627141
>you can't watch anime for serious enjoyment
Thank you know what exactly I like and don't like so you can tell me that I'm not having "real" enjoyment when I watch anime.
>shit taste
I haven't even said a single show that I've liked, let alone watched. Fuck off stupid /v/-tier trash.
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>>48627187
The fact that you personally enjoy it doesn't change the fact that it's absolute trash!

It's okay to like trash, though!

I like trash too!
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>>48627261
>all of one medium is all trash
Your statement is the equvalent of saying "all books are absolute trash" or "all movies are absolute trash" which is statistically false.
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>>48626802
I tried reading a bunch of different LN and all of them were boring badly written trash. I'm sure SAO is exactly the same.
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>>48627358
SAO's pretty shit, yeah. The second half of it goes full retard, the first half is pretty boring.
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>>48627310
Oh no, absolutely not! It's more like "all books made by creatively bankrupt Japanese production committees are absolute trash."

Which I believe you will find is closer to statistically true!

But, like I said, it's okay to like trash! Just drop all the pretenses and stop pretending it's not.
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>>48626690

Japan is pretty overused and trite, and has been for the past 35 years or so.
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>>48627358
>I've read some LNs so all of them must be exactly the same!
That's a fucking retarded line of logic and you know it. This argument is so fucking retarded and basically the one all anime haters use.
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>>48627397
He's talking about the LNs.
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>>48627143
Forgot to mention he had never created an original character idea. Ever. It's always ripped out of some anime or obscure manga.
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>>48627430

But most LNs -ARE- nearly identical throwaway trash.

Which is why Haruhi lampooned that shit so hard before it fell victim to its own shit.
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>>48627399
>all anime is creatively bankrupt and made by large production committees
If you knew anything about the industry and how it worked, you would know that be factually false.
>Which I believe you will find is closer to statistically true!
I don't know how something being creatively bankrupt can be a statistical fact since it's a VERY subjective thing.

You can wallow in self deprivation all you want but if you want to make a gross generalization about an entire medium, you should expect people to call you out on your shit.
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>>48627409
>Japan is overused and trite and has been for the last 35 years or so
When will this meme end? Japan has made some really interesting and creative stories in fiction as well as movies for the last several decades. Anime is made for teens and young adults so of course you won't see the same level of creativity or seriousness as you will in a book. You are literally looking at such a tiny portion of Japanese media your view of their culture is incredibly skewed.
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>>48627495
LNs are literally the YA of Japanese literature though. Look at American YA and you will see how so much of it is incredibly similar and shit. That's not to say there isn't good LNs though. Stuff like Legend of the Galactic Heroes (and Arslan Senki by the same author) is a very mature LN series that doesn't cater to teens. There will be trash in every medium. That doesn't mean all of it is shit.
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>>48621332
I only hate them if they watched and ENJOYED Sword Art Online
>edgy teenage loner black swordsman dual wielding faggot
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>>48627515
Oh, yes, of course Sword Art Online Season 14, the 87th incarnation of Gundam and the adaptation of "My Little Brother's Middle School Girlfriend Can't Stop Sucking My Dick!" are paragons of creative endeavor.

I am sorry to ever have cast doubt upon the glorious Japanese anime industry!

It's trash, though. Just look at anichart.net right now. The least trash show this season is Love Live, and that's complete trash.
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>>48627557

Oh, Japanese stories are fine.

I am specifically saying that western stories aping those Japanese stories and tropes are the issue.

It always comes off as either watered down or forced, because of the lack of thought put into unity of elements in a story.

>>48627608

It was enough of a recognizable problem for Haruhi to devote itself to lampooning it. Therefore, it is a recognizable, relatable problem, regardless of standout examples in the medium.
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>>48627447
What's the difference? I'm sure it's the same boring shit, except I have to read it backwards.
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>>48627637
>least trash show is Love Live
You are fucking retarded. And I never said Gundam, SAO, or OreImo are great narrative tales. I only said that good series exist and writing off an entire medium as shit is not only illogical, but ignorant as well. Japan's animation industry is far from perfect, but it's also not as flawed as you make it out to be either. You are just a shitposter and baiter and you can stop doing both now.
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>>48627639
I definately agree that imitations without putting the correct amount of thought or research into something is stupid and moronic but part of it is the issue of the medium at large, not the entire issue. And to be fair, Haruhi made fun of genre conventions before they were as widespread as we see them today. Haruhi was written before the widespread popularity of manga, anime, and otaku culture so it lampooning it isn't a fair comparison I think.
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>>48627657
I found the world and setting details to be much more in depth and the author explains some of the stuff that happened in the show much better in the books. In my honest opinion, SAO's bad aspects were just amplified in the anime version because of a combination of popularity and just it not being a good fit on the screen visually. There's also a lot of good recent matieral that's been coming out in the Alicization arc that is really cool as well. The LNs aren't fantastic, but they are a fun read and I enjoyed them.
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>>48627714
Dude. If over %80 of a medium is nothing but gratuitous amounts of fanservice and suggestive actions from female AND male characters with bad action scenes, poor/lack of plot, and edgy succubus little girls you can generally say it's shit.
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>>48627714
>I only said that good series exist
And yet you have completely failed to prove that! I can claim that unicorns exist but I'm not gonna throw a shitfit when someone asks for proof!

I don't understand why you're so hostile, all you have to do is accept that anime is trash and drop that pretentious crap about having a "taste" and being an "anime connoisseur."

You're just as bad as Demolition D, without the 300k subscribers that is.
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>>48627754

>Haruhi was written before the widespread popularity of manga, anime, and otaku culture

>2003

You can't be this retarded.
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>>48627806
Except that its not and generalizing will get you fucking nowhere.
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>>48627809
Thanks for b8 but you are retarded.
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>>48627818
It was big in JAPAN in 2003, but anime and manga and LNs didn't really get popular abroad until around 2008-2009
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>>48627809
>anime is trash
Only self-hating casuals say this because they are uncomfortable with the fact that they are fucking newfags.
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>>48627624

I enjoyed SAO first cour actually.

After that, I dunno. It's like watching your average comic book flick at the movies. Ca be fun for what it is. The difference being, probably no one idolizes that.
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>>48627834
>Go to anime searching website
>Look up "slice of life" category.
>486,201 results
>Look at every other category including "harem" and none have more than 60,000 results
Yep. Anime sure is a bastion of entertainment and all other mediums fall short of this.

Go read a book that isn't a LN or a manga.
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>>48627809
If you hate all anime this autistically, why do you have dozens of reaction images derived from them?
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>>48627888
>Newfags to anime are casuals and have their opinions discarded.
Dude. Lay the fuck off. They're cartoons, not a hobby.
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>>48621332
>Why does /tg/ hate weebs again

Just look at this thread and you'll get a rough idea
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>>48627915
>Anime sure is a bastion of entertainment and all other mediums fall short of this.
I never said this or meant to imply it.
>Go to anime searching website
If you got to MAL to search for anime you are fucking stupid.
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>>48627888
Please don't be mad, I just want to discuss the amazing quality of the cheap, outsourced animation of To-Love Ru! and the intricate and original plot of Aldnoah.Zero!

Haha, Umaru-chan sure was a good anime, wasn't it? I play video games too!
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>>48627940
>They're cartoons, not a hobby.
Yes because watching television or movies TOTALLY isn't a hobby. You are retarded if you think people can't watch anime for enjoyment.
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>>48627936
He doesn't hate ALL anime, just a good %99 percent of it. Sure, most mediums you have to sift through a few rocks to find the diamonds. But in anime it's like looking through a city dumpster for a diamond ring.
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>>48627985
That is an unfair comparison and you know it.
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>>48627976
>implying I think any of those shows are good
Nice projection you got there.
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>>48627985

I don't get why guys answer to bait like that.

I mean, I honestly am dazzled: who's more insecure, the self-loathing one one or the one who's triggered?
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>>48627983
In a hobby you generally do something or create something. Examples:
>Warhammer 40k
Create and paint miniature armies of soldiers while reading lore.
>Magic: The Gathering
Build decks and play competitively or casually against friends and strangers alike.
Etc etc.
Sitting in front of a TV watching the latest Anime on CrunchyRoll is NOT doing anything but sitting on your ass and looking in the general direction of the TV.
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>>48621332
There were three dudes who watched anime religiously at the table, only one of them made an actual character and the other two made literal garbage like a tuxedo wearing katana weidler who wanted to destroy the world with some shit called pain called adam fucking sandler, the other guy made a halfling rouge with a dumb as fuck name and proceded o check his phone constantly whenever it wasn't his turn and called me a crap dm because he wasn't listening when i said he was thrown across a room.
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>>48628049
>do something
You are literally watching anime, be it on your computer or on the television. That's doing something. Please, tell me how watching movies isn't a hobby.
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>>48628049

An hobby could be hiking or reading a specific genre, actually.

In english.
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>>48624388
>thinking Shirow wrote Koukaku no Pandora
>getting butthurt about KnP when all Shirow has drawn fir decades is shitty porn of weirdly shiny bitches
>not liking doll joints and GARLU MEETS GARLU cyberdork dykeventures
I feel like the villain of the first arc was directly mocking fags like you with his obsession with being a supar serious Cyberpunk villain in the world of lesbian catgirl robots who get fingered for superpowers
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>>48628025
Well, I can't read minds! How come you like anime so much but don't want to discuss any of it?

Could it be because you know it's trash?

Just accept that it's trash and we can discuss anime in a more constructive way, like when you're drunk and talking with a friend about The Room or Nightmare on Elm Street!

I've never heard anyone get mad and insist that The Room is an example of good cinematography!
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>>48627873

You must have been an infant at the time or something, because Inu-Yasha was airing in 2003 to massive widespread acclaim and was pretty much the #1 most wildly successful non Dragon Ball show that kept Cartoon Network from canning anime entirely.

2004 was the epicenter of the weeb wave.

What you're referring to in 2008-2009 is the Light Novel ghetto, where there were no original stories being told anymore.
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>>48628154
Posting smug anime girls doesn't make your argument any less retarded, anon.
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>>48627873
>but anime and manga and LNs didn't really get popular abroad until around 2008-2009
Nigga u dumb>>48627856
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>>48627976

......I kinda wanna talk about cheap, outsourced animation.

Share examples. I need some lightheartedness at the expense of third-worlders' poor art skills in my life.
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>>48626737
And /tg/ is literally /v/
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>>48628203
Ironically enough, the anime market abroad crashed in the early 2000s and only now are studios and anime companies look abroad for more viewership. I watched Inu-Yasha when it was airing in America but once the market crashed and Japan didn't want to have their stuff licensed anymore, the market for anime dropped off until around 2008-2010 or so.
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>>48628223
This is now a QUALITY thread.
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>>48628238
False. We actually LIKE PLAYING traditional games. /v/ HATES video games.
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>>48628247

The crash was entirely America-centered and based around Japanese companies jewing American ones for licenses that were unfairly priced, because everyone was in a hurry to grab onto the next DBZ. Japanese studios were simply adjusting to all their techniques being obsoleted, hence the early 2000's flat CG look, and while it was not a good-looking era, the shows of the time were decent.
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>>48628275
>/tg/
>playing games
Kek
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>>48628275

We will become /v/ when we unironically watch Wil Wheaton and other 'game reviewers'....

>Critical roll

Okay, we're /v/ and Wheaton is our Arin Hansen.
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>>48628203

>no original stories

You didn't really watch anime around 2003, right anon? It was probably the worst period of all time for "originality".
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>>48628222
Did you ever hear about any major LNs until recently? What about good, subbed anime? And mass-produced manga? All of those are inventions of recent times.
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>>48628203
>he says this in 2016, when this past season the most original anime have aired at once in the past decade.
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>>48628223
What are you talking about, this other anon has clearly told us that Japan is the last great bastion of quality entertainment in the entire world?

Surely there won't be something so vapid and bland such as an anime about a bunch of busty girls flopping their tits about animated by underpaid Korean wageslaves?
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>>48628297
Oh god, Wil fucking Wheaton.

I came here to make fun of weebs, not to get angry!

Why do people even like him? I've had two people in my gaming circle ask me about GMing fucking Titans Grave or whatever the fuck his shitty setting is called.
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>>48628346

I don't hate him. But I only watched some BG reviews. Seemed to do his job.

I had the impression he couldn't RP much more than Fiasco.
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>>48628304

>Wolf's Rain
>Last Exile
>Texhnolyze
>FMP: FUMOFFU
>IGPX
>Read Or Die: The TV
>Tokyo Godfathers
>Platonic Chain
>Battle Programmer Shirase
>Gilgamesh
>Gungrave
>Uninhabited Planet Survive
>Godannar


I DIDN'T EVEN INCLUDE ADAPTATIONS, AND THERE WERE A TON OF INFLUENTIAL ONES THAT YEAR.
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>>48628206
It makes me sad that you don't want to discuss anime with me when you're so clearly passionate and well informed!

Can you link me to your YouTube channel? I'd love to subscribe and watch your reviews and recommendation videos!

I bet that "Why Queen's Blade is Japan's answer to Game of Thrones!" video is gonna get real popular once you post it to /r/anime!
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>>48628388
Yeah totally its
go fuck yourself

Please, tell me again why anime is such trash.
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>>48628323

I don't know why, but I want to imagine that some lonely NEET is bouncing his strung up rock against walls with anime girls on them.
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>>48624388
GitS's author already draws lots of insane porn.
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>>48628387

I'd probably save Fumoffu for "originality".

I mean, anon, really, Godannar? Shit, Amanchu! has come from Jupiter or something then.
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>>48628295
I don't know about you, but if half of the people on this site lie then at least %40-%45 of people on this site regularly play traditional games.
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>>48628387
Wolf's rain was soooo good
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>>48628408
Well, I'm sorry we got off to such a bad start! I just wanted to be your friend and discuss quality entertainment such as Tokyo Ghoul, DanMachi and Berserk!

I hope that if we meet again in the future we can start over!
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>>48628408

That being said I have the feeling GRRM would love the shit of Queen's Blade.

"Holy shit, dwarven lolis, why the fuck didn't I think about THAT?"

>more seriously it is time for a comic fantasy series on western tv
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>>48628460

Out of 2003's offerings, I was only really a huge fan of Platonic Chain.

Which due to being about very near future keitai culture, is 100% obsoleted now that we are deep in smartphone culture.
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>>48624453
Gotchu fampai
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>>48628387
>Last Exile was original
I laugh at you.
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As a non-weeb who has only ever watched 1-2 animes ever, I can honestly say I really don't care that much for modern Japanese culture. That being said, I'm fascinated by many of the technological advances the country has produced and the pre-WW2 'muh honoru' culture I find incredibly interesting.

And on most levels, I really don't mind weeaboos. Generally they act just the same as everyone else in my game groups, but amongst themselves talk quite a bit about Anime.

However, I can't stand the overload ones. During a campaign running a Japanese/Anime inspired character is fine, just don't overdo it and make a retarded ass Mary Sue constantly spouting Anime references. Additionally, the only time I really find the whole thing annoying is when they don't stop talking about the stuff. Like on here, conversations about Japan relating to games are fine but people flooding threads with "OMG I LOVE [insert anime here] ITS SO GOOD JAPAN IS AMAZING KAWAII!!!!!!1!!!1!!!1111!!!!one1!!!!!!", just go over to /a/ or whatever.

tl;dr weebs are fine but like anything, don't obsess over it and force people to talk about only it.

Is that a fairly normal reaction? I feel like a lot of the weeb hate comes from trolls or oldfags that got fed up with it, but for the rest of us regulars does this seem about right?
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>>48628770
A lot of the weeb hate is trolls, but they were definitely quite a few people who act in a cringeworthy manner as they attempt to jam their shit into everything.

I'm a huge fucking weeb, but I understand that not everyone gives a damn, so I don't bring it up. The same applies to a fan of anything, really.
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>>48628802
>they were definitely quite a few people who act in a cringeworthy manner as they attempt to jam their shit into everything.
Not the anon you are replying to but what sorta things do you see in which weebs try to jam their hobby into everything?
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>>48621332
The late 90ies and early 2000's
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>>48629012
Wut
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>>48628802
>I'm a huge fucking weeb
I hate this. If people want to stop anime fans (and by extension anime) from having a bad name, they have to stop associating with the term weeb. It's self deprecating and incredibly stupid.
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>>48628770

No, that's fairly normal. I'm a fairly huge weeb, but there's a time and a place for it and for the most part it's not when I do /tg/ things. For me having separate hobbies is kind of the whole point about having separate hobbies, and I've never really understood the kind of people that feel the need to jam all the things they like into one thing.

If anything I think /tg/'s current beef with weebs is actually a backlash to fetish based shitposting. I'm not sure exactly when it started happening, but a very specific type of poster now resides on /tg/ that tries to bring up fetish talk either for jerking or trolling purposes, opens the post with some sort of lewd animu picture, and tries to thinly tie it to something /tg/ related. The correct thing to do for those is just report and move on, but a lot of 4chan in general cannot back down from responding to a post that is shitty and feel the need to engage it, which causes them to mentally link the shitpost to anime in general.

Like I'm sure there are plenty of anons who just don't like weeb stuff which is a totally legit response, but I've noticed a lot of out in the open weeb hostility has grown along with these shitty fetish posts.
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>>48629676

>It's self deprecating and incredibly stupid.

It's no different than any other group.

I mean our official moniker is fa/tg/uy.
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>>48628802
>I'm a huge fucking weeb, but I understand that not everyone gives a damn, so I don't bring it up. The same applies to a fan of anything, really.
The world would be a better place if everyone thought this way.
>>48628868
>what sorta things do you see in which weebs try to jam their hobby into everything?
You ever talk to a weeb girl? Like a full on hardcore naruto headband piece of shit? They shove their hobby into the way they talk, dress, and run. They only listen to English translations of anime songs. I've met three in my life. I'm a huge fucking weeb too, but thankfully I didn't want to lose the little respect my father had of me when I was in high school and act like a wapanese aspie.
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>>48629710
And /a/'s is /a/non. Your point?
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>>48629721
I mean I guess it's somewhat different for me since I'm part Japanese and know Japanese but I get your point. "original" weebs are fucking annoying because they know nothing about Japan/Japanese culture and more often than not are just autistic newfags to anime.
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>this thread
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>>48629698
>>I'm not sure when it started
it started when the mods deleted all the monster girl waifu threads. /tg/ used to have porn fucking dumps, and xombarg's storyteller.

Basically Anyone claiming the influx of fetish posting is somehow worse or theyre infiltrating /tg/ is fucking retarded. make whatever arguement you want about where it does or doesn't belong, it's been her longer than most channers. if its a problem its an internal one, not crossposting /a/ and /jp/ fags
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>>48627809
Not him but why do you use so many exclamation marks?
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>>48628770
Yeah, pretty much.
I game with a weeb (and a brony, actually), but it never really comes up. Occasionally the conversation will take a turn in that direction and you get a glimpse of the bottomless pit of anime nerd, but it's just a hobby he has.

On the other hand, people avatar-fagging with anime girls is annoying as hell, but that's exactly the reason they do it.
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>>48629925
I don't get it.
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>>48626394
/a/ is pretty cancerous, but there are still good threads if you know where to look.
Make sure to check out the old anime threads, you can generally find people discussing good shows
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>>48631539
Adding onto this, I tend to get away from the weekly anime threads that get 300+ replies (unless I really like the show). Shit like Love Live and Re;Zero from this season are good examples of threads to avoid imo.
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>>48623589
Fun fact: in most countries the "child porn" laws also apply to cartoons drawn and voiced by adults for adults, despite the claim that the reasoning behind the laws is the harm to the children involved in their production.

I'd advise avoiding such content unless you live in Japan.
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>>48629012
Back when anime was good? How is that a problem?
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>>48633192
Anime isn't child pedophilia though.
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>>48623589
>It's ok, she's really 4,000 years old!

People actually say this with a straight face, when the character has the body of an 8 year old.

You apparently are one of these people.


You can call a hot dog a filet Mignon, but that doesn't change the fact that it still looks, tastes, and is in every other way still a fucking hotdog.

If it was just being played for a joke maybe I could stand it, but people say this shit straight faced and then I wonder just how fucked humanity is at this point.
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>>48633455
All I was trying to say is that not all anime appeals to pedophiles and to claim otherwise is just to demonstrate your ignorance of the medium. Anime like how you mention certainly do exist but they take up a small percentage of the entire medium as a whole.
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>>48633455

If she really is 4000 years old she presumably has the physical and mental maturity to deal with sex and its consequences, the lack of which is the reason pedophilia is bad in the real world. Then again, girls in hentai tend to be woefully ignorant about sex and squeal like stuck pigs the first time, so maybe not.
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>>48633388
Some of it is, or contains enough pre-adult lewds that you could get in shit for it.
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>>48634137
>some of it is therefore all of it is
Yeah, you're stupid.
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>>48634205
Claiming I said all of it was. All i said was that it is a thing, and it being a cartoon doesn't matter legally in most countries, and therefore is suggest avoiding the illegal stuff because consequences. Anything beyond that is simply strawmanning.
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>>48628770
>tl;dr weebs are fine but like anything, don't obsess over it and force people to talk about only it.

This exactly.

There's two guys in my group that won't shut the fuck up about Critical Roll even though it's a pretty big group and no one else gives a fuck. It doesn't matter if it's anime, or comic books, or what. Obsession ruins things.
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>>48621332
I'm not sure that /tg/ does, I mean it loves MAID and that's about as weeb a game as you get
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>>48628770
>tl;dr weebs are fine but like anything, don't obsess over it and force people to talk about only it.
Ironic, coming from the 40K containment board
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>>48621332
I've noticed that capeshit triggers more people than weebshit, at least on this site.
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>>48621332
It's a meme, /tg/ had weebs since it's inception.
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>>48621332
Weebs fucking trigger me with their edgy katana naruto shit PCs.
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>>48635162
>/tg/ is the 40k containment board
When will this meme end? This isn't even true in the slightest.
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>>48636767
Mind explaining why?
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>>48636843
>all of 4chan had weebs since its inception
F T F Y
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>>48628387
>Battle Programmer Shirase
only anime I watched on that list, it's complete shit

your taste is shit
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>>48638765

Not him but hating on superheroes is in vogue on 4chan right now.
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>>48639468
But literally why? Is it just because Marvelshit is big right now?
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>>48639477

That's exactly it.
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>>48638757
Until 40fags grow up, so likely never.
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>>48633235
Because thats when legions of middleschoolers with shit imagination got introduced
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>>48641053
Ironically some of the most original anime has come out in the last five years or so. The "golden age" of anime was shit.
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>>48639718
Well that's shit.
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>>48639477
>>48641109
Are you new here, getting mad at popular things is like half of what 4chan is about, the other half being weebs.
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>>48625203
the word created signals that it didn't exist before you mongoloid.
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>>48639477
That and a lot of people dislike that western comics tend to espouse a lot of liberal or progressive viewpoints along with general criticisms of artstyle (mostly from weebs) or powerlevels
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>>48641224
I'm not new. I knew 4chan hates popular things, but hating capeshit seemed to be a more /tv/ thing than a /tg/ thing imo.
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>>48642602
I mean I'm trying to say Marvel isn't shit (the really not subtle left flagging is stupid, as is the powercreep) it's just that capeshit as a whole isn't that bad in my opinion since its such a big genre of fiction.
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>>48641091
Every time of course has some creative, original works, but if you think the last 5 years had proportionally more than 95-05 you probably didn't watch as many anime back than so you have a biased view, since you simply know more modern anime and thus also more modern creative ones.
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>>48642758
Please tell me some '95-'05 anime that you think are original then.
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>>48621332

i like anime

I like samurai/feudal japanese/historical stuff

it's not one and the same
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>>48645014
Yeah but some people can't separate the two. Namely anime-haters.
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>>48642772
Haibane Rnemei
Azumanga Daioh
Figure 17
NieA_7
Alien Nine
Angel Densetsu
Monster
Narutaru
PaniPoniDash!
Rozen Maiden
Kino's Journey
Utena
Princess Tutu
Doremi
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>>48621332
>/tg/ is one person
>'weeb' and 'person who likes anime' are interchangeable' terms.
Personally, I hate weebs and generally dislike anime, excluding Akira and Ghibli, obviously. That said, never had a huge problem with weebs.
I imagine the 'problem' weebs are the autists who simply cannot go along with the tone of a game, and feel compelled to inject a loli-catgirl-demigod into a frazetta-esque sword and sorcery setting.
Conversely, it would be just as bad if a diehard HEMAfag did the equivalent in a magic-ninja weebshit game.
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>>48646131
>Ghibli
shit taste famalam
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>>48621376
>it's impossible for people to not like muh anymays, they must be trolling
>and it's like 2 or 3 people shitposting at most anyway
How fucking deluded can you be? Have you ever considered that the vast majority of people don't give a fuck about anime and think it's retarded, for good reasons I might add, and are just sick and tired of you forcing your shit taste down their throats by derailing threads just for your weeb circlejerks.
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>>48646212
By Ghibli I mean Mononoke and Proco Rosso, exclusively.
But please, famiglia, ragale me with your opinions on mongolian slideshows
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>>48646268
>the vast majority of people don't give a fuck about anime and think it's retarded, for good reasons I might add, and are just sick and tired of you forcing your shit taste down their throats by derailing threads just for your weeb circlejerks
This tbqhf
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>>48646268
>people hate anime for good reason
You are fucking hilarious
>weeb circlejerks
Do you have any idea what those two words mean? Because it sounds like you are just spouting buzzwords.
>and are just sick and tired of you forcing your shit taste down their throats
You sound triggered and are projecting.
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>>48646285
The Tale of Princess Kaguya is unironically the best Ghibli film
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Socially illiterate people unable to talk about things other than their main interest versus socially illiterate people unable to understand how other people can like things they don't.

that said I dislike how weeb has been coopted into a preemptive mockery defusal, i.e. I'm a huge weeb, I watch anime, in order to deflect accusations of being the traditional NIPPON ICHIBAN weeaboo.

I also dislike how I do it too.
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>>48646373
But anon Japan is the best country in the world

But yeah I too hate how weeb has become this way for anime lovers to put themselves down as a self-deprecation tool so that they are not ridiculed
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>>48646070

You do realize that half of those are manga adaptations, so are thus, not original.
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>>48625203
> Finding you share the Internet with someone this retarded
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>>48646070
>>48647236
>tfw anon gets BTFO'd
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>>48648155
>implying I'm retarded
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>>48646268
>the vast majority of people don't give a fuck about anime and thin it's retarded for good reasons and are sick and tired of-
I thought they didn't give a fuck. Sure sounds like giving a fuck.

Why do you think people who post anime content on 4chan are specifically out to "force it down your throat"?
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Why do you go to forums with many anime fans and then bitch about the presence of anime fans?
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>>48649696
>Why do you
If you're talking to OP, I think you're misreading what he said.
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>>48649710
I'm not, I'm talking to the people who do this. Many do, as visible in this thread.

Pic related, it's what I think is going on.
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>>48621332
It's honestly /tg/ hivemind. Anything remotely "weeb" is the devil, although the real problem is a combination of Edgelords (who will edge no matter what) and Autists (who won't stop springing boners over what they like).

Generally when these two groups are exposed to Anime, you get what is known as the typical view of "Weeaboos".

Then again the greatest irony is the neckbeards who hate them realize they frequent a weeb web page.
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As long as one admits "weeaboo" isn't anything north of "hating Japan with a burning passion and thinking we shouldn't have stopped at two bombs in 1945."

It's possible to like some things from Japanese media without thinking the country is an amazing wonderland. And if you think that an entire medium with decades of works ranging across every conventional genre, audience, and tone you can name can be singularly dismissed as shit, you are either a troll or just impressively closed-minded.
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>>48649751
Case in point on the Autist end: >>48647236
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>>48649696
Because it's a consistent trolling method that always works.
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Anime-inspired characters are total trash is the long and short of it. Anime tends to be bound incredibly strongly by certain tropes that are very detrimental to creativity when it comes to designing characters and settings for roleplaying.
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>>48649786
And yet this is what most weeb-haters do. Because they have had bad experiences with weebs and therefore associate Japan with weeaboos which therefore (in their minds) means all things Japanese is shit.
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>>48649696
Because people are fucking morons who have no semblance of logic or reason.
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>>48621332
personally I find the over-the-top "cuteness" inherent in most anime to be sickening. The glossy, enlarged eyes and lack of noses just makes me think of children's cartoons, which is essentially what most anime is - cartoons for kids and teenagers.

>>48621376
pretty much everyone who doesn't love anime hates it. very polarizing. I'd say /tg/ is about 50/50
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>>48649849
Characters that are inspired by other people from other forms of media (be it books, movies, or television) in general are pretty trash. This is a pitfall not specific to anime.
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>>48649905
I know. Tolkien ripoffs are just as lazy, but not quite as obnoxious.
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>>48649849
What are these tropes, and why are they "very detrimental" to creativity in roleplaying?

What is it that anime inspires that western media does not? Doubtless, there are differences between western and Japanese media, largely to do with cultural ideas and concepts that stand out in the West as being different and, thus, stand out as obviously drawing inspiration.

In my opinion, you notice it more because its inspiration is foreign to you, even though anime-inspired or anime-derived tropes are no more prevalent or excessive than those of western media. Do you disagree? Do you think there is something inherent in anime (and manga, VNs, JRPGs etc) that inherently damages one's creativity?
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>>48649895
> I find the over-the-top "cuteness" inherent in most anime to be sickening
Anime is not confined to one particular style. If you think otherwise you are either generalizing or just plain stupid.
>which is essentially what most anime is - cartoons for kids and teenagers.
No it's not. The majority of anime that you see (late-night anime or SoL) is for teens and young adults. Most people are not exposed for the anime that is for children due to the fact that the majority of them are shorts and most of the time obscure series.
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>>48633498
>squeal like stuck pigs
I literally cannot watch Japanese porn. Girls submissive to the point of seeming mentally retarded, just ick
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>>48649937
The likelihood that a character will make an edgelord goes up exponentially with how much anime they've seen.
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>>48649895
>just makes me think of children's cartoons
Well, the look was inspired by Walt Disney's work.

However, not all anime is moeshit, nor is all anime for children or teenagers.
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>>48649941
>teens and young adults
yeah thats what I meant by children and teens

And yeah I've seen the brutal adults only anime with rape in it. I thought it was cool when I was 12, but grew out of it.

Even anime that is done realistically and in my areas of interest just doesn't hold my interest. Live action film is the superior medium.
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>>48649919
I think that what you are describing is a cultural difference as well as a problem with the player rather than a problem inherent with anime/Japanese media. Japan as a culture is a place that is more comfortable with people being over the top with their emotions (as well as actions and feats of skill). In the West we don't have a lot of that and as a result it seems obnoxious to us. However, this is very normal in Japanese media. It's just a cultural difference that is just made worse by autistic players.
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>>48649968
>I've seen the brutal adults only anime with rape in it.
That's called hentai.

"Adult" doesn't necessarily mean "gory" or "sexual." Adult can just as well mean it covers themes or subjects too complex for minors to understand and appreciate.
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>>48624388
Basically animation in Japan has degraded further and further because it has to cater to otaku shitlords and their western weeb counterparts to make a buck off of what is essentially a pedophile heatsink and lewd figurines

If a show doesnt incorporate some loli bullshit or moeblob its a goddamn miracle, and half the reason Im so amazed at One Punch Man and more importantly Mob Psycho, because they're just pure entertainment with no apparent need to cave to this shit
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>>48649963
>nor is all anime for children or teenagers.
Everything I've seen is, and everyone I know who likes anime is under 25.

Even the "adults only" stuff is scoffed at by actual adults as total crap
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>>48649991
>Everything I've seen is
You don't sound like you have a very wide experience of anime, so I really don't think your experience counts for very much.

Let me guess, you define "actual adults" as "people who don't watch anime," thus making your asinine point nothing more than a tautology.
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>>48649972
The problem is with the player, always has been. This is about weebs. I really like Japan, and know that there's a lot more to it than is exported in their popular culture.
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>>48649968
>yeah thats what I meant by children and teens
>children and teens are the same thing as teens and young adults

>brutal adults only anime with rape in it
Porn is not commercial anime senpai.
>Live action film is the superior medium.
Woah there, that's some nice opinions you got there.
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>>48649985
>themes or subjects too complex for minors to understand and appreciate.
we're talking about teens and young adults here, not really minors.

Feel free to share some anime with adult concepts that is on par with a well made film or series.
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>>48649991
The adult-oriented normie stuff doesn't really leave Japan.
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>>48649986
>animation in Japan has degraded further and further because it has to cater to otaku
This is literally wrong. What is Gundam? What is ufotable? What is almost every AAA anime title that has come out in the last decade by a major studio?
>make a buck off of what is essentially a pedophile heatsink and lewd figurines
If you honestly believe that Japan only makes pedophilic anime you are retarded. And you are doubly retarded if you think that all anime figurines are lewd. Not to say that some anime isn't made purely for sales, but the majority of anime isn't made mainly for lewd figures and pedophilia.
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>>48649991
>Everything I've seen is
Then you have very limited knowledge of the medium
>everyone I know who likes anime is under 25.
Ok. Your point? Demographics show there are people that watch anime that are 25+ years old.
>Even the "adults only" stuff is scoffed at by actual adults as total crap
Because it's fucking porn. Is that so hard to understand?
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>>48650024
Famously, The Matrix was inspired by Ghost in the Shell. There are other classics that might well just bore anyone too young to get it, like NGE, Berserk, Eden of the East, Baccano, The Sky Crawlers... and those are just popular ones. I just watched From The New World, an adaptation of a novel (not a light novel, a novel) whose themes and social commentary would definitely confuse most teens.
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>>48650024
Legend of the Galactic Heroes
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>>48650013
Yep from what I've seen adults dont watch anime

>>48650018
>Porn is not commercial anime senpai.
Violence Jack and Mad Bull 34 were readily available at video stores when I was a kid so it seemed pretty commercial. They were hilarious as a 12 year old but pretty disposable. nothing too deep, just violence and rape for the sake of it.

Spawn - now there's a great animated series for adults and covering adult themes, and done tastefully
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Yes, the cartoon look, with the big eyes and the lack of noses and so on definitely means it's for children.

if your objection is that south park's toilet humor really is for teenagers, have you seen the show in the last 15 years? it's mostly social commentary and satire now.
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>>48650015
>tfw when you hate anime but like Japanese culture
>tfw you keep it to yourself because most people would think you're a fedora'd creep anyway

Fucking otakus
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>>48650140
>from what I've seen
Are you a demographics expert? Have you done some kind of professional research into consumer patterns in Japanese imported media?

Why should "from what I've seen" matter? Who are you, and why is your perspective noteworthy? From what I've seen, plenty of adults like anime and plenty of anime is made for adults. The childish moeshit that dominates mainstream anime is not all there is.
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>>48650140
>Spawn - now there's a great animated series for adults and covering adult themes, and done tastefully
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>>48650135
Hated it. boring. Not enough actual action, and 19th century infantry tactics dont actually work in space battles.

>>48650109
>Demographics show there are people that watch anime that are 25+ years old.
yeah they're probably the same freaks who live in internet cafes in japan.

>>48650112
I've found boredom is quite prevalent in anime.

Also this thread isn't /tg/ and should probably be pruned. Good to see animefags getting very defensive though
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>>48650164
I've watched exactly 2 animes, and I'm really grateful I did so after going to Japan rather than before.
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>>48650159
>and so on definitely means it's for children.
Are you trolling or just retarded
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Anime haters have fifteen seconds to explain why neo-noir cyberpunk movies like LA Confidential, Minority Report and Blade Runner are works of art, but Psycho-Pass is for children.
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>>48650191
Of all the people I know (and I have a wide group of friends and family) the only ones who watch anime are under 25. Thats my experience. feel free to share your experience of people you know who are over 25 and watch anime.

>>48650211
>Doesn't refute the point
It is pretty tastefully done for a 90s cartoon
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>>48636843
Jesus, I don't know the last time I've seen that picture. It has to have been at least three years. Four?
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>>48650230
It's sarcasm, anon.
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>>48650233
they eyes big they nose small lol
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>>48650233
only Blade runner in your list is good, and its not exactly a work of art, its just a hollywood sci fi film.

Antichrist is a work of art - dat cinematography
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>>48650217
These demographics were for Americans. People that have most likely never been to Japan in their lives.
>>48650217
>19th century infantry tactics dont actually work in space battles.
Oh so you're a "MUH realism" fag. It all makes sense now.
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>>48650238
I have. In my experience, there are plenty of people 25 and up who like anime, and like anime that isn't for kids.
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>>48650267
>only Blade runner in your list is good, and its not exactly a work of art, its just a hollywood sci fi film.
Are those movies for kids?
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>>48650269
Yes I like realism, even in my sci fi.

If only anime provided gritty realism I would be satisfied.

"The Expanse" was excellent for a recent sci fi series.

Another issue I have is that cartoons just cant convey emotions as well as live actors.
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>>48650273
would you consider those people you know who are over 25 and watch anime "normal"?
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>>48650313
You literally can't hate anime because it doesn't match your preferences for artistic direction. If you are looking for hard core gritty realism in anime you came to the wrong place. Now take that pretentious attitude of yours out.
>cartoons just cant convey emotions as well as live actors.
Animation and voice actors go a long way to conveying emotion. Some of the most emotional scenes I've ever seen in media have been from anime.
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>>48650313
That reminds me of how much I hate the standard anime cost-cutting techniques they use for expressing emotions.
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>>48650330
Not the anon you are replying to but I have plenty of friends over 25 that like anime that are normal. And this is coming from someone who doesn't watch a lot of anime.
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>>48650330
Most, yes. At the very least, no less normal than any other hobby. Not all anime fans, indeed the vast majority of anime fans, don't run around making kawaii emoticons ^_^ and addressing people with japanese honorifics for no reason and calling people sempai.

Just to liken it to another hobby of mine, most gun owners aren't rednecks who open carry their tacticool mallninja AR-15 into Starbucks to show off. They're just people who like plinking or carry for self-protection. The former are weebs. The latter are anime watchers.

Is it possible you have a sampling bias at work here, and tend to only notice those who obnoxiously go to lengths to ensure people know they like anime?
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>>48650330

Is that any worse than being over 25 and reading genre fiction?

How about watching movies? Western TV?
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>>48650392
>Is it possible you have a sampling bias at work here, and tend to only notice those who obnoxiously go to lengths to ensure people know they like anime?
Its very likely that people in my community just dont watch anime when they mature. I guess there could be a sample bias in that Its a pretty normie community

>>48650352
>You literally can't hate
how come I do then?
>If you are looking for hard core gritty realism in anime you came to the wrong place.
Exactly why I dont watch anime.
>Some of the most emotional scenes I've ever seen in media have been from anime.
I feel sorry for you anon
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>>48650462
People of all ages enjoy movies or genre fiction.

Its just that overly cutesy Japanese cartoons are for kids and teenagers - its not something a self respecting adult would partake in
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>>48650467
>how come I do then?
Because you are biased and ignorant about the medium as a whole
>Exactly why I dont watch anime.
Not everything can appeal to your tastes, sorry.
>I feel sorry for you anon
No, I feel sorry for you that you have to every form of media conform to your tastes so that you can like it. Instead you push it aside as if it's trash and say its an inferior form of media. Which is even more pathetic in my opinion.
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>I don't watch anime, but let me tell you what anime is all about, what it's like, and who does like it...

Every time.

Maybe the reason animefags keep correcting you is not because they're defensive, but because you're incorrect?
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>>48650512
My tastes are pretty normal, I just need entertainment for adults that isn't all cutesy. I mostly watch documentaries or well made films or series that are interesting.

I mean cartoons just are inferior to film, its not really disputed.

>you push it aside as if it's trash and say its an inferior form of media
Thats how taste works: you realize you dont like something, after giving it a good shot, and you stop consuming it.
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>>48650569
>its not really disputed.
Yes, it is. It is disputed.

>after giving it a good shot
The fact that you insist on pushing retarded shit that other people have repeatedly corrected you on, like "all anime is cutesy" and "all anime is meant for children" is why people think you haven't "given it a good shot."

It's fine not to like anime. It's fine to be closed-minded, even and dislike it just because it's different from what you're used to. Fine, not like it affects me any.

But the reasons you're citing for disliking it are incorrect. And being smug about it comes off like a judgmental douche.
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>>48650541
If you didn't like the taste of shit, would you continue sampling all the different types just to make sure?

I haven't claimed to know everything about anime, but I do know from my group of friends and family who watch it, and its mostly people under 25. No one has "corrected" me yet. I said anime is too cutesy and aimed at teenagers, and no one disputed that by posting anime for adults "if you want gritty realism you're in the wrong place" etc.
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>>48650569
>My tastes are pretty normal
Possibly, but not everyone is as self-righteous as you are.
>I just need entertainment for adults that isn't all cutesy
That's so subjective.
> I mostly watch documentaries or well made films or series that are interesting.
>I'm a connoisseur of good film!
Go the fuck back to /tv/
>I mean cartoons just are inferior to film, its not really disputed.
You are fucking retarded by trying to say one medium is superior to the other. Admit it, you are just a pretentious asshole.
> you realize you dont like something, after giving it a good shot, and you stop consuming it.
Yeah but the difference here is that you are trying to pretend like your taste is superior and right. Which it isn't. It's completely subjective and you are just being biased and a pretentious retard.
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>>48650619
>"if you want gritty realism you're in the wrong place" etc.
It's a difference in cultural perspective, tone, and expectation you retard.
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>>48650595
I have enjoyed anime in my life, I just grew out of it.

Are you really claiming that cartoons are superior to film? interesting and close-minded viewpoint. Also telling me that the reasons I dont like something are "incorrect" seems pretty odd. instead of just telling me I'm wrong, prove why I'm wrong with examples.

Feel free to post anime that is not cutesy and aimed at adults
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>>48650654
>Are you really claiming that cartoons are superior to film?
He's not, just that there is no medium that is "superior" to the other.
>Feel free to post anime that is not cutesy and aimed at adults
People already have.
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>>48650619
>and no one disputed that by posting anime for adults
>>48650654
>Feel free to post anime that is not cutesy and aimed at adults
see
>>48650233
>>48650135
>>48650112
>>48650112
>>48650112
>>48649963
>>48646070
People already have posted quite a few which aren't cutesy and aren't meant for kids.

Will you at least acknowledge it's obnoxious when you ignore suggestions people actually gave and then pretend nobody has? Or are you just selectively oblivious?

Adding Monster to that which others have listed.
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>>48650633
entertainment for adults isn't really subjective. I guess a brain damaged adult would enjoy childrens cartoons, but most adults consume things that are aimed at them.

>I'm a connoisseur of good film!
Never claimed that.

Its pretty easy to claim cartoons are inferior to film, I could list all the reasons but the main one is lack of conveying emotions without an actual human face, and the lack of detail compared to real photography and real landscapes.

>>48650650
>Name calling
mature
so you're claiming culture doesn't value gritty realism? because I would disagree, its just that the gritty realistic stuff is on film, and not aimed at kids
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>>48621332
I don't play much online and when I do it's with IRL friends that moved away, but I guess if half the players you can find there are weebs using anime sluts as avatar and shouting nip memes it can become annoying as shit, just as people spouting TBBT references.
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>>48650509

>Overly cutesy

Maybe you're just not aware of the breadth of the medium.
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>>48650704
>isn't really subjective
Yes, it is.

>>48650654
>Are you really claiming that cartoons are superior to film?
No, I'm not. I'm claiming neither is superior to the other, and both have merit.

And yes, when you state things that are factually incorrect, people will tell you you are incorrect. If my "opinion" is that the sky is green, will people not tell me that I am incorrect?

Valid reasons to dislike anime would be subjective, taste related things like "I don't identify with its culture" or "The art style embraced by most (but not all) anime doesn't appeal to me."

Invalid reasons to dislike anime are factually incorrect statements, such as "It's for children".

And many posts have already given you examples of why you're wrong.
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>>48650697
>People already have posted quite a few which aren't cutesy and aren't meant for kids.
I have seen quite a few of those and they really weren't great. slow, lack of interest, lack of realism, still aimed at teenagers or young adults. anime really doesn't appeal to adults I'm afraid.

If you could pick one that is on par with a well made film or series, and aimed at people over 25, what would you pick?
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>>48649849
But that points the problem to the person making the characters, not the medium.

You don't notice the person who draws inspiration from a medium, yet does it so well you don't notice. I wager once they mention their inspiration a few sessions in you lose your shit, don't'cha, neckbeard?
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Also, /tg/ I thought you were better than this.

Pic freaking related.
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>>48650697
>People already have posted quite a few which aren't cutesy and aren't meant for kids.
Are you somewhat implying that GitS or LoGH aren't made for kids ?

Fuck lad how old are you ?
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>>48650742
>slow
>lack of interest
>lack of realism
All dese opinions. Some people like stories that are slow. Some people like escapes from reality. Maybe you don't, and that's perfectly fine. But that means nothing in regards to the age range intended.

>still aimed at teenagers or young adults
No, they aren't. At least, quite a few are not.

>anime really doesn't appeal to adults I'm afraid.
And you are objectively incorrect, as the almost embarrassing number of people who have come up with counterexamples has confirmed.

>If you could pick one that is on par with a well made film or series, and aimed at people over 25, what would you pick?
Why should I only pick one? I and others have already nominated quite a few. And why would you even ask that instead of addressing the one nominated in the very post you're replying to? Are you arguing just for the sake of seeing your words appear on the page?
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>>48650787
I have literally never heard anyone call LoGH "cutesy" before. I think you're just looking for an argument at this point.
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Any anime-tards have good recs? Recently I finished One-Punch Man and Blassrieter, and the last thing I really enjoyed before that was Basilisk. Attack on Titian wasn`t bad, but it left me wanting more.
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Is anyone else confused as to when 25 year olds stopped being considered adults?
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>>48650736
>when you state things that are factually incorrect
I'm not aware that has happened yet.

just to clarify, my reasons for disliking anime are:
not realistic enough
too slow, not enough substance
overly cutesy or simplified features
cartoons dont convey as much emotion as live actors
animators cannot create spaces as effective or beautiful as real life landscapes
the constant japanese speaking eventually grates on you (granted this is minor, I enjoy foreign language films, but constant Japanese yabbering just gets old for an entire series)

I mean "anime is for children" isn't really factually incorrect, Look at some demographics and tell me that the majority doesn't like in the 12-25 age group. I said anime is for "Kids and teenagers" which is pretty accurate. mostly people under 25.

And yes film is superior to cartoons, both have merit, but film is capable of communicating much more.
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>>48650831
It's just one fedora tipping anime hater retard that thinks he's o so cool for hating anime. Ignore him.
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>>48650831
when you get over 25, you'll understand
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>>48650831
It`s pretty clear:

>that point when autism overrides logic and discussion devolves into elaborate name-calling

A man can accept that this opponent is inferior, a child wants to make themselves look cool on the internet.
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>I-I'm a healthy, normal adult!
>that's why I'm arguing about anime on a board for tabletop games in the middle of the night.
>Because I'm mature and only like mature media for mature adults such as myself.

Where the fuck do you think you are?
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>>48650831
>when 25 year olds stopped being considered adults?
When you are 25 and still watching children's shows, it blurs the line a little.
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>>48650790
>Why should I only pick one
So I dont have to waste my time checking out 4 or 5 series.

Considering I've seen quite a few of the anime suggested, I somehow doubt the others will satisfy my needs of "something well made and not aimed at young people"
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>>48650866
I'm assuming this is to both sides and you're taking a smug high ground. Is this correct?
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>>48650866
Yeah this thread really isn't /tg/ related. You guys should know better to keep it in /a/.
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>>48650900
>actually did name one
>continues to ignore it
>demands counterexamples
>ignores counterexamples
look, I genuinely try to assume anyone I talk to isn't a troll. There are a lot of people with a lot of experiences and opinions otut ehre and, odd as it seems, I actually enjoy talking with them.

But I do mean "talking with." With. A two-way conversation. You've exceeded my capacity for repeating myself. So bravo, you've gotten yourself this far. I guess that's an accomplishment. Rejoice! You win! You exhausted at least one person's willingness to engage you.
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>>48650905
Pretty much. Everyone in this thread needs a little less wind in their sails. Nobody here is a normal, functioning adult, and shouldn't pretend they are.
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>>48650856
>Ignore him
Sound advice that has been universally unheeded in this thread
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>>48650913
desu this isn't /a/ related either. the OP was specifically talking about weebs in his games. the anons and retards in the thread just took it by only talking about how "shit" anime is.
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>>48650946
I just gave up after he basically said
>I only watch mature films for mature individuals like myself. you children would never understand!
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>>48650922
eh Monster looks pretty melodramatic. The art style is cool and Spawn-like but It seems like a daytime soap opera
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>>48650831
I give you a test protocol

Moday, at the office, you go on coffee break and when you are there you ask John, Jill and Jack what they thought about the latest [insert anime here] episode. If they ask what is it, explain the plot to them and don't forget to say it's japanese.

Report findings.
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>>48650991
>not having coworkers who are interested in diverse things
I talk about magic at work all the time. Some people talk about sports, other people talk about game of thrones, in general if you aren't a dick you can talk about whatever you want.
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>>48650952
I've only experienced one player who was a "weeb" as in he liked anime a lot.

He was a good player, and really great guy, just young and very patchy - only turned up for 1 out of 6 sessions, so we ended up dropping him
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>>48651008
>I talk about magic at work all the time
Magic, you mean the 23yo card game that is overtly aimed at young adults ? I'm pretty sure this hasn't much to do with magical girls.
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>>48650991
That's biased because what you should be doing is ask IF they watched the latest anime episode. Not what they thought about it and assuming they watched it. I talk about anime to my friends all the time and I don't rub it into their face. It's just another hobby, just like reading books. It's not any different than sitting down to watch a TV show. As long as you aren't autistic about it you will be fine.
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>>48650990
This just goes to show how judgemental and biased you are. You say it looks meldoramatic and you even compare it to something you thought it was good but because its an anime it will never measure up and you say it's like a daytime soap opera despite never watching a single episode of it.
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>>48651039
>That's biased because what you should be doing is ask IF they watched the latest anime episode.
I'd start with asking if they watch the show at all. Same I'd do for a western series.

I watched The Expanse, a show someone recommended here earlier, and liked it enough to recommend it to those I know like scifi. I didn't just expect they saw it and brought it up, I asked if they heard of it first, like a non idiot. Why would anime be handled differently?
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>>48626020

I can't tell if you're embarrassed because you got caught being new or just trolling or what, but I was around when weeaboo first became a term used on this here chan. It does indeed come from PBF and not the other way round. Not trying to be mean, just telling you plain that you are, for once in your life, wrong about something.
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>>48651060
Maybe just a difference in how we handle social situations. I usually open by asking someone if they've watched something before asking their opinion on it first, instead of leading with their opinion. Just a different way of opening conversations.
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>>48649696

Look how many replies this thread has and you'll find your answer.
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>>48651036
I have no idea what this post means but I talk with my friends (even those that have never watched anime in their entire lives) about mahou shoujo shows and they don't mind. In fact, they are really interested when I get talking about the evolution of magical girls and their history in the medium of anime. I don't think anime is as childish as you are suggesting.
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>>48650939
This thread is basically just a few trolls baiting and some anons too dense to realize it somehow.
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Evangelion is such a cutesie show for little baby kids, especially when Shonjie masturbates over the body of his friend that for all he knows might be dying

Fuckin weeeb ass nerds get off my chan
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>>48650990
I'm sure you do take issue with it, because it's an anime and your little crusade is out to prove all anime is unworthy, but I wonder what you have against Psycho-Pass.

It deals in complex enough themes that you can get something out of it even if you're not a "young adult", though I wouldn't say it's inaccessible. Its creators very specifically set out to make an anime with no moe whatsoever. The only "cutesy" elements I can think of are the police holos, which look exaggeratedly cute for a deliberate reason that is important to the setting. The characters are all adults, in an adult setting, not high school kids or little girls or whatever.
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>>48651118
idk I watched the trailer and it looked like a bad spoof of a daytime soap opera. And the trailer should usually convince you to watch a series by showing the best stuff so... I just dont think its for me.
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>>48651597
>so... I just dont think its for me.
And this is where your argument falls apart. You say anime isn't for you. Which is completely fine and valid. But to say film and live action is objectively superior to it is just plain false because you yourself just admitted it isn't for you subjectively. You have a bias and you just admitted it, therefore disproving your entire argument.
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>>48624148
Well, bad analogy I guess. I mean they're only interested in a small niche; usually it's not even as general as "anime" or "moe". Normal fatguys probably dabble in fantasy, history, sf, film, tv, comics, etc.
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>>48651616
>film and live action is objectively superior
It is though. Its like being biased towards enjoying sex because it feels better than not having sex. Not much of a bias really.

I guess I'm just too old to enjoy anime. I need mature, well crafted entertainment
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>>48651864
Please be a troll.
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>>48651914
Of course he's a troll.
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>>48651597
Daytime soap operas have apparently changed significantly in the last few years if a neo-noir cyberpunk conspiracy thriller matches the description. I should watch more soap operas.
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>>48646302
Nobody said people hate anime you faggot with a victim complex.
And yes the majority of people think anime is retarded because all they see is random clips from all kinds of animes and most of them are plain stupid. Shit I've never seen an even mildly interesting webm or gif of weeb shit on 4chan and you faggots are probably posting the good shit.

>>48646302
>>48649609
Forcing it down our throats by derailing threads. Any fucking thread can go completely offtopic because you can somehow totally tie it to anime. And all those that get deleted because of starting new cancer threads.

>posting 4chan banners like they mean anything
Weebs also visit 4chan so they made some weeb banners. But we have contaiment boards for animays.
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>>48647236
>>48648709
You do realize that, if you followed the conversation, it was pretty obvious that the sense of "original" wasn't meant as in "isn't an adaption" but as in "is creative, right? Ord did you really expect he meant to simply count the number of anime that weren't adaptions? That would be a really pointless argument.
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Holy shit, I didn't mean to start this shitstorm! I just wanted to make fun of the pretentious sperglord who was bullshitting about having "taste" in anime!

I'm sorry!
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>>48646268
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