If mana is basically magical energy, and there are mana-conductive

>>48551563
yes
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Mana is an etherial field, neither a particle nor a wave, so the answer is no. This is true for all settings.

All. Settings.

>>48551563
Yes.

>>48551563
No

>>48551563
Of course

Maybe. Depends on the setting.

>>48551563
of course not

>>48551563
Look if you want to build a magic computer, just use ants or skeletons like the rest of us alright?

>>48551563
Obi-Wan Kenobi.

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>>48551563

>>48551778
those countless and seemingly unsensical dungeons filled with undead and other monsters? giant computers.

>>48551563
Sure, but as you optimize the designs the circuitry inevitably resolves into the shapes of ancient runes and pentagrams-in-circles and miscellaneous magical symbolism, for whatever reason.

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>>48551563
im just here cause that OP image. great image.

>>48551563
Could you repeat the question?

>>48552337
Yayoi is cute.

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You need semiconductors to make an electric computer. So you can't make a mana computer with just the materials listed.

People don't seem to appreciate how complex computers are. It's a miracle they even work at all.

If you're using it for a story element, you could take the old labrynth of shifting walls and tunnels idea and make it a gigantic magical computer, akin to how large early computers were.

>>48551563
That's like asking if you can build a computers with watts.

>>48551563

Abacus golems are a much simpler solution really.

>>48552499
>need
Citation needed.
The only thing that is required to make a computer are logic gates and flow that goes through these gates.
You can make a water-powered computer if you want to.

>>48551619
Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should.

Magic Skynet.

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>>48552536
Not really. A computer is just an arrangement of logic gates. Nano-scale transistors allow them to be impressively small for their power, but there's many ways to build computers. An automatic transmission valve body is basically just a computer that uses fluid instead of electricity.

if you can boost your intelligence with magic why do anything but loop intelligence boosters

why not just use telekinesis to fuck up someones brain/whatever instantly

why is immortality that difficult when powerful healing magic is common

why are there shitty peasants who are even worse off then real world medieval (non russian) peasants when fuckload of magic is everywhere

how do non-supernatural users ever do anything of note

ect.

because fantasy writers are hacks

>>48552779
>create large network of linked magical items
>so much latent magic that it creates a consciousness

There's a bunch of settings that could work for.

>>48551778
>ants
I read that manga, it was pretty good

>>48552746

You need switches to make logic gates though. Something that will allow magic to flow under one circumstance and that will not under another. If all you have is conductors and insulators it's very very difficult to make these kinds of switches.

>>48552817
>if you can boost your intelligence with magic why do anything but loop intelligence boosters
Because you want to actually do something.
>why not just use telekinesis to fuck up someones brain/whatever instantly
Line of sight.
>why is immortality that difficult when powerful healing magic is common
Soul bullshit and all that. When it's gone, it's gone.
>why are there shitty peasants who are even worse off then real world medieval (non russian) peasants when fuckload of magic is everywhere
They didn't win the magic lottery and segregation of classes exists.
>how do non-supernatural users ever do anything of note
By being charismatic and leading the supernatural users to whatever cause they believe in.

>>48552813

Has anyone built a pneumatic calculator?

>>48551563
I'm actually planning a game right now that had this happen in the recent past. A company calling itself Magi-Tech started to fuse magic and technology together to create magic supplies and unusual effects as one.

But then the apocalypse happened.

>>48552779
>Magic Skynet
"If god didn't exist, it would be necessary to create one."

>>48551563
What do you think gods are?
Just mana based entities/super computers created through overlapping thoughts of believers.

>>48551979

Underrated post.

>>48552945
They built something similar in London once. It was more of an economical calculator using water as an analogue for currency. They never got it to work right.

It was the Inspiration for The Glooper of Discworld.

>>48552746
I specified electric computers for a reason. If you want to use electric motors or dominoes to make a logic gate, that's fine. But it's no longer an electric computer.

>>48551563
It depends entirely on the setting in question.

>>48553055

I was thinking more of a 3d printed contraption. Built to show off, like those mechanical calculators that fit in the palm of your hand, tragically designed about a decade before the first electronic calculator, but possible since the first pocket watch.

>>48552829
it sounds like part of Hex from the Discworld books

>>48551563
IF the setting has mana-conductive and mana-insulating materials, then sure. That's actually a thing in my setting.

Oh God I wish that image weren't so true.

>>48552829
>ants
The word still gives me flashbacks, fucking antman.

>>48553480
Actually I just remembered that computers predate transistors. So you could figure out a way to do it otherwise.

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>>48553480
what do mana computers do

>>48553552
You mean in my setting, specifically?

>>48553552
compute

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>>48553408
Hex was actually made from bees.

>>48552863
You could make magic relays.

>>48552813
Modern computer architecture to make computers anything but unusably slow is very complicated.

>>48552863
>Something that will allow magic to flow under one circumstance and that will not under another
How about magic?

>>48553650
I guess if you can create arbitrarily sized AMFs along the circuit, then you could make a magic computer.

>>48553552
Provide basic mathemagical support and graphing capabilities to wizarding academy student at the expense of their construction being nearly monopolized by a single artificer.

Magic is actually a sentient force. It's mostly uncaring, but it DOES hate technology.

>>48553552
that fuel's gotta be pretty nonreactive for someone to be willing to store it in their armor's chest cavity

>>48553791
What a profoundly stupid thing to say.

>>48553810
Maybe it's like epoxy and you need to mix two separate chemicals to get the properties you want, and those chemicals come from separated compartments.

>>48553602
Nope. Ants in glass tubes.

>>48553810
It could be coolant instead of fuel. Maybe it's some sort of magi-tech that generates a lot of heat while it's in use, so you need to pump coolant to it.

>>48551563

>Shy girls
>Talking to anybody

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>>48553602
Processing and short term memory were ants.

Long term storage was bees. That was a later addition.

>>48555555
Nice repeating digits.

>>48555555
Didn't it also make use of a waterwheel with sheep skulls for it's RAM?

>>48555555
Welp.

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>>48555555
How fitting that hexes are found on discussion of Hex.

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>>48555799
Yes. Also a spring with an egg-timer boings up when it's thinking hard.

>>48555555
Holy shit. I got a sext of 5.

>>48555878
And who could forget:
>+++Out of cheese! Error! Please re-install universe, divide by cucumber and restart!+++

>>48552829
What manga?

>>48556004
Boku no ants

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>>48556004
Monster Collection

>>48552499
No you don't.

>>48556004
Boku no pico

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>>48556415

>>48553624
but based on magic / mana this is not needed. You do not need small and good design if the energy transferance has 100% efficiency. And most systems only let large concentrations of mana generate light, not heat. So you can increase the frequency to beyond good and evil.

>>48551563
back in the old WW board there was a post about building computers within M:tAw, with a proof that the given spells in the core book are turing complete.

You don't even need material form if you're using magic. Just logic.

>>48555799
No. It had that, and it was called that, but that was analogous to a power supply.

>>48556568

>>48551563
I feel you would like this OP
https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3238329/88/A-Hero-s-War
it's "what would happen if you put an engineer into a standard fantasy setting" goes into alot of detail on the mechanics of magic

>>48551789
Come up with a magical justification for wearing diapers.

>>48551563
assuming mana transistors are possible, yes.

>>48557040
Someday you're going to be dealing with shit, wallowing in shit, or interacting with human shit. This will range from levels of nonexistent to waist deep at varying points. As a wizard you're going to be dealing with the human shit variety as they are vastly less intelligent than you are. We make you wear those diapers as a child so you could get used to the feeling of wallowing in so much shit then so you can perform at your fullest now without hesitation.

>>48553010
That's what you get when you put those clowns in charge.

>>48551711
Waves are just excitations of a field. All particles are also waves. Therefore, if there is a mana field, there are mana waves. If there are mana waves, there are mana particles.

>>48557040
Casting spells makes me poop myself.

>>48551563
No, unless you have mana semiconductors or mana powered devices that turn mana conductors inro insulators and viceversa

sure you could, but it would be highly inefficient
getting magic to actually act like pure magic instead of being expressed by a spell requires a lot of energy, and if you work on the "spell" basis you have a shitload of very dangerous overhead on every single bit of information

what you're building is a slower, more expensive and vastly more dangerous version of a mechanical computing machine

magic has many advantages but safety and consistency are not among them

>>48553028
Solid post fampai

>>48553791
then it can be trained

>>48557546
SCIENCE

>>48555878
Greebo does not look nearly as fucked up as I imagined.

>>48552863
>Something that will allow magic to flow under one circumstance and that will not under another
I think magic already does that, otherwise my lightning spell would hit the ground.

>>48557040
I'm playing FATAL, everything needs diapers, specially the magical side effects.

>>48555555
Nicely done friend. Enjoy your minute of fame.

>>48552779
Or worse.
>magic 4chan

>>48552499
Less jew talk please.

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>>48552817
Man, you'd fucking love Morrowind.

>>48551563
>this is what fat chicks actually believe

What the DM says can happen, well, it can happen. Doesn't matter what the the setting says, everything is up to the DM.

That said, just imagine a Dark Sun mana computer. Draining life from the world just to look up things on the internet.

>>48551563
I have found my spirit animal

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>>48551563

How do you build a Quantum Magical Computer?

>not ias, mechas and protodeus
LaughingBarnabas.png

Bet u arent even human.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/12936417/

And

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/12939196/

Everything old is new again.

>>48557546
He said an etheric field though, presumably referring to the aetheric medium that light was postulated to move through. This was late 19th century, before wave-particle duality was even proposed.

>>48564712
Doesn't matter. The field is non-uniform in potentiality due to the inherent nature of spell casting. Energy is accumulated (in varying graphable waveforms) and released in distinct locations thought the aether through selecting and using a spell. This non-uniform potentiality proves waves, proves particles, proves the efficacy of a manaputer.

>>48551563
No.

But you could build a magical computer out of shy girls. Let's talk about that.

>>48564856
>shy girl processing
>100% guaranteed to have errors
>entire system is predicated upon this immutable fact
>produces results based on inverted calculations and runs an ECC subroutine for each (because while the existence of the error is assured, the nature of the error is always unknown).
Sounds more complex, but still siderially possible.

>>48564885
>The campaign is about dealing with a shy girl turned brave girl who is ruining the simulated reality in which the game exists. If the characters don't keep her from having a romantic evening with senpai, the world will end

>>48551711
If it exists outside the laws of physics, then why would you constrain it to the laws of physics regarding a totally mundane computer when it comes to making a mana computer?

Mana computer and mana-transistors confirmed by actual logic.

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>>48565090
>not playing the chaotic faction that's trying to support her from the shadows while the oppressive Matrix-runners try to sabotage her date
>not being the good guys

>>48557040
here you go
suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/19996057/
tldr: diapers of holding can be used to make plague bombs, if not flamethrowers

>>48555555
checked

>>48551563
Ogl steampunk has mana conductive minerals and metals. Creating a primitive computer powered by mana is possible in the game.

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Strange. Something matching this premise just popped up on rpg.net's reviews.

It's called Cryptomancer.

I'm worried this entire thread is an ad, somehow.

>>48572406
When did /tg/ turn into this metamarketing and shillery shithole? It's like that blanket marketing of dollar shave club on all social media. Btw dollar shave club has 3 great blade options for all price ranges!

>>48572503
As the guy you're bitching at...

Amen, bro. At least there aren't 12,000 quests here anymore.

>>48572503
Greater than that feel when for only a dollar a month I'm not a neckbeard anymore without having to go outside!!

>>48572694
Speaking of which i hear that new 2016 Mazda Frontier has a smooth ride and a rugged feel like the before and after effect of the $6 package from Dollar Shave Club with its extra blade for a close shave. It really is a new frontier for us all.

>>48572661
Im glad those horrible days are gone and behind us. Just like the days of having to pick up your dog's poop! With the new Pooper app it's 2 clicks and you can walk away with the calm assurance someone else will take care of your dog's business leaving you free to do yours!