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Let me get this straight. The first vampire in World of Darkness,

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Let me get this straight. The first vampire in World of Darkness, who has all vampire powers at max level and is responsible for the existence of every vampire clan, is the biblical Cain cursed by God? What kind of punishment is that?
I know he can't die and that's horrible for him, but why didn't God just make him an immortal hobo without any other powers, without creating a race of superhuman serial killers? Are human lives worth so little that vampires exist just to have Cain live with more guilt? I don't get it.
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Its like how in the mummy they punished the dude by turning him into an immortal super demon.
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Mark Rein-Hagen is a terrible writer.
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>>48390926
It made more sense in the 1990s.

It was a different world back then.
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>>48390926
IIRC it was something to do with making Caine live for eternity and being forced to feed off his own children. But also this:>>48390964
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Actually, God didn't give Caine any powers other than his immortality

Lillith was the one that taught Caine all his wacky powers
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>>48390926
Yeah, basically the only person in Vampire with an actual curse is Tremere, and that's less because he's cursed with vampirism and more cuz he's the biggest fuckup to ever have no sense of right and wrong.
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God punished Caine, he did not give him powers.

Also, right after doing the curse, WoD God fucked off. No seriously, he cursed Caine then left and no one has seen him since. The angels can not find him, the mages spit on his creation and the first signs of him even doing anything else is in end times.
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Wasn't that origin originally one of many theories?
Like there were other ones colored by the different sort of clans and bloodlines and whatever?
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>>48391566
It is the theory that got the most love and the only detailed history of VtM came from it.

It is also what is focused on more during end times then any other theory.
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>>48391538
>Implying the One didn't shatter into the Pure Ones who in turn shattered into Avatars
>Implying it isn't the destiny of mages to rule the world.
>Implying the night-folk aren't shit.
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>>48391622
I would have the energy to argue with you if I knew they were less popular than Changling and Hunter.
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>>48391005
He didn't even do that. The first humans just were fucking immortal and superpowered.
All God did was casting him out, marking him, cursing his fields, make the sun hate him and giving him the Seven Times Return Protection Clause.

Everything else is Lilith Bullshit Demon Sorcery coupled with the aforementioned superpowered first humanness.
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>>48391622

Arcadia for life, bro.
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>>48391622
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>>48390926
>is the biblical Cain cursed by God
not exactly.
It's more Cain, as of book of nod, is also the origin of the Cain of the bible. IIRC there are some differences in the pre-cursing story.

The curse was the vampire curse, to ever fear the fire of god, both as sunlight and fire, that all food would taste as ash, and to live only on blood.
To live in endless night forever.

The power from the blood to make children, and other blood power, came from another source, post God fucking off, who cursed him again that his children would kill him and he'd kill his children or something. Basically he'd never have a happy family and his works would always turn to dust.

But it's been a while since I read the Book of Nod.
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>>48397724
Can't kill the messiah
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