Age of Sigmar General

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f55CqLc6IR0
How very dorfy..

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How do you guys imagine the former Empire and Bretonnia factions will be remade?

Will they still resemble their old selves or will they be heavily remade for the new setting?
Maybe they will be combined?

I haven't found much information about the future of either for the most part.

>>48272196
What were the differences bewteen the Empire and the Bretons anyway?

>>48272202
Empire were gunpowder era Holy Roman Empire, Breton were medieval France.

Just getting into age of sigmar, revamping (pun intended) my old vampire counts army and looking at flesheater courts. What would be a good foundation/list for a ~1500-2000pt army?
i.e. what formations should I pick, and should i grab anything from outside flesheater allegiance?

>>48272229
Start out with whatever models you like really. Flesheater will limit your selection quite a bit to everything ghoul, same for the formations. Just make sure your have your min. battlelines (I think zombies are universal battleline for Death?) and try to get a feeling for the game. After that you can judge for yourself what is worth and what not.

>>48272224
>Empire were gunpowder era Holy Roman Empire
Well here's my interpretation of them in AOS, trust me, it's the best idea since underwear.
>Steampunk+Religious Fundamentalism+Iron Man.

>>48272196
It would make sense to give the empire a heavy steam punk subfaction and one focused on the priests. I mean they already have these, but that is where the aesthetic will go to. I doubt that they will atick to the landsknecht aesthetic.
Bretonnia, I don't know. Again, it would make sense to weed out the peasants and focus on the 'cool' heroic knights. Would be a little redundant, with the sigmarine knights already being a thing, but who knows.
Imho the worst (as in ' most boring') for AoS that could happen is just some repacking, like bonesplitterz or ghouls.

repeating from last thread:
i might have a line on some metal and resin tomb kings stuff. how are ushabti in play/points to effectiveness ratio?

What's some out of production stuff i should look to acquire (for any army/grand alliance)

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>>48272254
>>48272290
>steam punk

>>48272301
I wouldn't buy any oop stuf for AoS desu. On they long run the rules will be unofficial and everyone will hate you for using it, if it's even remotely strong. The models don't match all too well with newer stuff and they are probably overcosted. So why even bother, if all you gain is some short term power in your army?

>>48272196
Will we ever see a release of those flying creatures?

>>48272309
It fits perfectly into the warma/wow aesthetic GW is going for, might even be nice to have some steampunk city guards for the humans. I mean at least ot wouldn't be as bland as the sigmarines. Think of how good admech looks (not steampunk, but still machines and shit)

>Season of War edition

Greywater Fastness and Phoenicium is in Order hands!

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riddle me this (new) rules fags: can i mix weapons in say a ten man squad of chaos mauraders?? lets say 4 javelins, 4 axes and 2 flails??

>>48272433
no. "many units of".
the description is unit wide.

>>48272446
ahh okay, thanks anon

>>48272353
Also the Empire should have some sort of "Go big or go extinct." mentality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78dIhcI2ju8

>>48272430
oh shit Phoenicium contested again!

>>48272471
Season of war started already?

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Any rumors on what GW is planning with the Elves for Age of Sigmar?

Do you guys think that the different elf groups will all get their own battle tomes etc, or will they all be mashed up into one whole?

The tree men and dryads already became their own entity away from the wood elves, in the form of the Sylvaneth, so who knows what will happen to the wood elves themselves.

>>48272480
yep. uk+row and europe are already duking it out. order's got a pretty solid lead in grey, and it seems like there's an order/chaos/death tie in phone

>>48272480
Yep. It said it started July 14 BST.

>>48272480
>>48272471
Phoenicium now in chaos hands!

>>48272491
I feel so nerdy watching that thing live...

>>48272471
Chaos has Phoenicium again, but it's a close-run thing.

>>48272496
I feel even nerdier commenting just after that other guy. Maybe I should let him take over.

hey guys how op is chaos daemon prince??

>>48272483
Don't you mean Aelfs?

>>48272506
Phoenicium is contested again now. and i'm about to go to sleep because it's almost 6am

>>48272491
>>48272498
Contested

>>48272511
I won't use that retarded name

>>48272512
Sure. Although someone else has since taken over, and it's nearly 9 pm here, so I won't stay up too long either. Gotta be ready for work tomorrow.

How long will the season of war last?

>>48272508
Not OP. He's actually rather reasonable. Still packs a reasonable wallop, but rather fragile and pillowfisted (unless he's marked Slaanesh, in which case he's a 3" bubble of 'I get to pile in before you do, no matter what you do').

>>48272538
One month.

>>48272229
Unless you're planning to use your king's command ability to drop flanking flayers, you won't use it. Take a vampire lord as your general in addition to a king on terrorgiest.

The Charnal Pit Horde (at the minimum requirements, but with a squad of 6 horrors) plus a Vampire Lord makes for a scary 1k army. You get +1 attack from your Vampire Lord, +1 from your king, +1 from the pit, and that's even before size bonus. I'm still crunching numbers on 2k armies, so someone else will have to help.

>>48272538
stops on aug 14(my birthday, funny enough), and results are revealed on the 16th

>>48272542
so whats better, mark of slanesh or tzinch?

It's a bloodbath in Europe, very close

>>48272569
>>48272552
>>48272548

Man, I need to get my Sylvaneth ready and go kick some chaos ass.

>>48272569
It's still a work day, surprised people are even playing lol. That said, I might do some painting to help order - I play Chaos but I need to finish my Seraphon and also I don't really want Chaos to win this time tbqh.

Greywater Fastness is dominated heavily by Order. Britfags what the heck are you doing?!

>>48272697
>Order the strongest
>destruction second
>death and chaos BTFO
The right thing it seem.

>>48272697
GO ORDER!
FIGHT AND WIN!!!

This whole live update thing is pretty cool, I'll admit.

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We seem to be starting out with a pretty clear favorite.Can't wait to see how it's like in Burgerland.

>>48272869
Still only day 1, and plenty of people are at work.

>>48272697
Chaos is the EU destroying the Euro Realms
Age of Chaos is Brexit as Britain closes its doors.
Age of Sigmar is when Britain returns to liberate the ruined Euro Realms.

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>>48272895
Behold, the mighty Sigmar

So after seeing that Beastmen trailer I've been toying with some list ideas. How does this look?

Beastlord - 80
Great Bray-shaman - 100
Great Bray-shaman - 100
Bestigors x20 - 280
Gors x20 - 160
Gors x20 - 160
Ungors x20, Bows - 120
Ungors x20, Bows - 120

Doombull, Greataxe - 120
Bullgors x6, Axes, shields, full command - 360
Bullgors x6, Greataxes, full command - 360

Total - 2000

>>48272869
Order is mostly played by the little kiddies that have summer break right now. Expect turnaround once everyone else starts playing.

>>48273054
Solid, but you should always let your Gors hav shields. They are surprisingly sturdy with them. Also, Wargor BSB is probably the best force multiplyer you can get with Goats. +1 to wound and taking no battleshock tests is an auto include at merely 80 points.

>>48273070
t. Assmad chaos edgelord

Order is gonna liberate the shit out of these realms senpai.

>>48273070
>order is played by kiddies
>implying Chaos and skaven players aren't a bunch of 15 year old edge lords
That's rich

>>48273127
Oh, I didn't see that guy in the list.

>>48273150
Really, Skaven are edgy? I always liked them because they were so cartoon-villainish and blew themselves up more than anyone else.

>>48273127
How does the Wargor BSB stop battleshock tests? I can't see anything on the warscroll.

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>>48273175
He is a legacy model. Most of them are pretty meh, but the BSB is probably the best Flag-waver in the entire game. Skaven one is pretty rad as well but only grants rerolls one a hit of 1.

>>48273070
>Order is mostly played by the little kiddies

Order is just mostly played in general.
I don't think I need to remind anyone what happened in Storm of Chaos.

Chaos came from 4 Warhammer Armies.
Destruction came from 2 Warhammer Armies.
Death came from 2 Warhammer Armies.
Order came from 6 Warhammer Armies.

Then just look at AoS so far.
Chaos has had two battletomes.
Destruction has had one battletome.
Death has had one battletome.
Order has had four battletomes.

I really can't imagine order will lose in popularity at this point, especially when the fluff so far has been Chaos and Death jobbing.

Are Morghast Harbingers cheesy?
Everytime I've used them, they demolish what's in combat with them.

>>48273184
Ah sorry, mixed it up with the rat one, Thought have gave the wound bonus along with the immunity. Still +1 to wound within 16" is nothing to sneeze at.

>>48273054
The normal ungors don't have an option to take Bows anymore. The Ungor Raiders have the bows and those cost 80 pts per 10.

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The AoS community has been nothing short of amazing so far. After playing a testgame I settled for Skaven, bought my first box of clanrats, brushes and paints and circle bases. The redshirt gave me a few more bits so I could make two commands so that I have 2 battlelines and one of the local rat player gifted me a Warlord as my HQ. Finished painting them today. So now I am at 2 times 10 Clanrats and one Warlord.. what should I go for next? I'll probably try and play an actual game tomorrow with my dudes, hopefully they won't all run from the battlefield.

>>48273054
GBS are nearly useless. There's a unique GBS with a much better spell in the legacy rules you should take a look at instead (Malagor the Dark Omen, I think?). He even counts as a GBS for the purpose of battalion keywords.

>>48272549
So the actual flesheater courts formations are no good?

So I decided to collect another army but can't decide between Beastmen(warherd in particular) and Ironjawz. I absolutely love the look of both of them, and both seem like they would be fun to play. What do you guys think? Also, how is the Ironjawz Warchanter?

>>48273321
Look online for Isle of Blood starter bits, weapon teams, rat ogres etc. The plaguewind launcher is thought to be more effective than the warpfire.
The rat ogres are better in this kit than the dated standalone kit, but if you like stormfiends just grab those.

If you like skryre,
Get a doomwheel. One of the best kits around.

Figure out if you like general rats, mainly pestilence or skryre, eshin might get new stuff next year, moulder like hellpit can just fit in as you like.

Highly recommend stormvermin, in game and as a good kit. Great models, also great for kitbashing characters etc.

>>48273417
Do you want to play with unappreciated shit smearers who are chaos cannon fodder and nothing more, and lost even that position to skaven? Or do you want to play with awesome orcs who are so metal they beat their armor into shape with their fists and absolutely smash anything that gets in their way?

>>48273336
GBS gives all beastmen an extra 3" of movement. That's why you take them, not for their signature spell.

>>48273321
It's ridiculous how much better stuff looks on rounds. Been slowly rebasing my dark elves and side-by-side the ones still of squares just look odd.

>>48273417
Ironjawz are fuckin sick lad. The range is beautiful if you ignore the yellow paintjobs, and you can guarantee they'll be getting more models soon.

Just in the process of assembling my first AoS models, and first purchase from GW in a long time.
Man was I surprised regarding quality! The thing goes together like LEGO for fuck sake! And absolutely no problem what so ever to partly-assemble for easier painting.
And I know I have been out of the game for a while, but "colored assembly guide with free rules"... Like, come on?!?

>>48273445
>>48273571
Good points. Definitely leaning more towards Ironjawz now.

>>48273650
Hey shill, this isn't effective advertising, we already talk about aos here. Try shilling in some other thread, or better yet another site.

Anyone here play devoted of sigmar army? I want to start an army of them

>>48272196
Empire will probably be one of the local freepeople namely Simgars human armies
new kits being made to be the new settlers of the realms or the recovered, probably mixed gender and less clear what earth culture they're form so you can kit base them better

Bretonnia are implied to be the Fleash Eaters Courts so sooner or later they will get new models to hint this more

>>48273727

4chan not your personal sandbox, so shove you very important opinion down your pipe as far you hand let you, frendito

>>48273650
Why could they not have put this much effort into the old setting then?

You know, the setting people liked.

>>48273861
Because Fantasy fans weren't buying anything.

Also, AoS has fans of it's own these days.

>>48273841
>Bretonnia are implied to be the Fleash Eaters Courts so sooner or later they will get new models to hint this more
Where is this implied?

>>48273920
they still think they're noble knights and whatnot in there crazy dreams bs

and most of what remains of defeated kingdoms form the realms

So, how many points is the Mourngul going to be? I'm going to add one to my Nighthaunt army.

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>>48272697
>implying
Order has:
>Lizard people representing the Royal family
>Tree people as a call back to olden times
>Duardin repping Scots and the Irish
>Sigmarines representing our stiff upper lip
Non Order shits have no chance

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>mfw playing Chaos vs Chaos and reporting 100% Chaos victories

>>48273942
Strigoi always thought this and tried to reclaim their power and glory.
Source:6th ed vc codex.

>>48272508
As the other Anon said, he's not a steamroller. Don't send him up against enemy big bads, or tides of infantry.

He's probably better suited to go against low model units like knights or chariots, or work in tandem with your own infantry.

Ive only used mine once and sent him against a coven throne and he disappeared quickly. Meanwhile Skarbrand walked up and one-shot it.

>>48273571
I like the yellow but I'd like it better with more oranges in the shadows. What color schemes have you seen for Ironjawz that you really like?

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>>48274044
Not that guy, but I quite like this orange/black scheme.

>>48272483
Aelves have already been broken down into various factions in GA:Order so you can expect them to either build up those factions (like they did with Sylvaneth) or create entirely new factions with new models. I don't expect that any of the current models will be changing factions ever again.

>>48273942
Strigoi were the kings of Mourkain, nothing related to Bretonnia.

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>tfw already won 2 games for Order

By the glory of Kroak, this city will be ours

>>48273916
>Because Fantasy fans weren't buying anything.
And they weren't buying because shit wasn't supported, blaming the fans is something that simply doesn't stand in marketing.

>>48274147
How weren't they supported?
Fantasy got new models in regular basis

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The USA just came up.

Destruction is absolutely dominating. Chaos is still in there.

Order and Death no where to be seen.

>>48273852
What exactly are you attacking? Sandboxes.. What the fuck are you talking about.

>>48273150
We get it son, you're assblasted over Skaven

Now where did the Verminlord touch you?

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>>48274191
FUCKING ORKS GET OUT OF MY LIVING CITY!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>48274191
Since there's no numbers they might have 4 points destruction and 1 chaos right now because only one shop has registered any data yet.

>>48274220
>TREEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>48274163
>How weren't they supported?

>balance destabilized at each release
>no specialist games
>no community contact
>no global campaign
>no tournament support
>almost inexistent FAQ support

On the other hand AoS got
>generals handbook
>silver tower
>community page
>season of war
>coordination with tournament scene
>FAQ

But you're free to think AoS stands up thanks to the sigmarines

>>48274293
Fantasy had all that, but theyn GW went retard. Then they went full retard and planned to axe fantasy and THEN they came to theor senses again and try to save AoS. Which they are doing surprisingly well.

>>48274220
It could be ogres, grots or fimir in your Living City

>>48274293
>balance destabilized at each release
Same as 40k.
>no specialist games
Does 30k count? Otherwise, same as 40k (inquisitor, gorkamorka, necromunda etc. were dead).
>no community contact
Same as 40k.
>no global campaign
Same as 40k.
>no tournament support
Same as 40k.
>almost inexistent FAQ support
Same as 40k.

So, the product most view as GW's "flagship" wasn't getting those things either.

>>48274333
GW's head honcho being replaced with a new guy might be a reason why their policies took a change for the better recently.

>>48274191
>America is only Chaos and Destruction
Fitting

>>48272327
Ignore this poster. He is wrong.

They may not update the rules for them, but aos is a game where these models will still be usable in a long run. And nobody will hate you for using them, that's ridiculous

Order is starting to take over the Living City! They're equal with the forces of Destruction now!

>>48274577
Wonder what the percentage is for it to go from contested to controlled on the map itself. Did destruction have over 75% of the living city? If not, maybe it's 66%.

In other news, that Beastmen DLC for Total Warhammer's been officially announced, although the Steam page isn't working yet so don't know the price.

>>48274100
>>48274044
I've been painting mine with dull brass armour, white cloth and brown leathers. Not got any pics, but it looks alright. Metallic primaries usually look like shit, but I bathe them in fleshshade and it's okay.

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So far so good!

Order now controls all 3 citys!

>>48274610
Pretty sure it's just who has the most points. It was contested when Order and Destrucion was the same size and got taken by order once their bar got bigger.

>>48274616
I hope they write the narrative afterwards based on how things swing too and fro, not just the final result.

>>48274616
>Release lore-changing campaign
>Whilst one faction is blatantly more broken than the rest

What is the point? No force can stand before the new treekin shit. Every other army is out of date now. Why hide their Order favoritism.

On the other hand i was torn between getting my Free people or Beastmen up and running. Beastmen all the way, Chaos is the fucking underdog here.

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who /Order/ here

>>48274738
Reporting in. I just loves me some dark elves. I mean darkling covens. Plus a hydra. Whatever.

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>>48274738
Order train has no breaks!

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>>48274738

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Who /skaven/ here, hoping to come out as actual winner via backstabbing whomever gets the silly cities?

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>>48274738
Can't wait to get to my local GW in a glorious storm crusade

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>living city
>no death

kek

>>48273070
Oh god here we go again. The same stupid mentality I've seen in WoW and pretty much every fucking MMO.

>Be horde
>Alliance is full of grade schoolers
>Be alliance
>Horde is full of little kiddies

Chaos players will say order is full of kids
Destruction players will say chaos is full of edgy kids
Death players will say destruction is full of obnoxious kids
Order will say death is full of goth kids

It's all dumb. The argument is just asinine

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>>48274738
Vengeance for the fallen gods!

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>>48274824
/SkavenBrexit/ when?

Fight-fight until final week of season-war. If Chaos-things falter, we leave fast-quick

For the glory of the Great Corrupter, and nothing else!

>>48274883
What is the elf fluff in AoS anyways?

My brother's grabbing the starter box for Seraphon and I noticed you could build the big ass lizard in a few different ways. What's the best one to make it as?

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>>48274901
Pic related?

>>48274917
There isn't much. They have been broken down into a dozen factions and are spread across all the mortal realms, but primarily living in Azyr as refugees since the Age of Chaos.

Malerion is doing... something in the realm of Shadow. Morathi is there and apparently has "shadow demons" with her. We're not sure what they are up to exactly, but we do know that nobody that has gone to the Realm of Shadow has come back.

Tyrion and Teclis have captured Slaneesh and are keeping zir captive somewhere.

Fun fact: Malerion is capable of beating Archaon in single combat.

>>48274983
>SkreechVerminking.jpg

>>48274697
It might also be, because buying a kit gets you as much points as a victory, so obviously treekin will rek everything.
I don't give a shit about the outcome of the campaign though, it's just nice to have one again.

>>48274997
>Fun fact: Malerion is capable of beating Archaon in single combat.

So, we'll add him to the list?

>Sigmar
>Allarielle
>Nagash
>Thanquol
>Kroak

>>48274960
There are 3 options:

Oldblood on Carnosaur
Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur
Troglodon + enough bits leftover for Oldblood on foot

Troglodon has a very niche usage so you should definitely build it as a Carnosaur.

Oldblood on Carnosaur is more offensive while the Scar-Veteran is more defensive. Both are good in their own way, but overall the Oldblood is generally more useful in a wider variety of armies.

You should buy 3 Starter boxes and build all 3

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>>48274997
Slaanesh was captured by Malerion and Tyrion, rest is correct.

>>48275016
>Sigmar
>Nagash
>Kroak
Nah

Not sure about Allarielle since I haven't read the newest books yet, and I don't give enough fucks about Skaven to know if Thanquol can do it.

>>48272601
Dude! Take pictures and bring proof of purchase, take those in to store, you get points for your allegiance for painting a warscroll worth of units.

>>48272196
The Empire will get a balls of steel buff whenever going up against something with more wounds then they have.

>>48274997
>Fun fact: Malerion is capable of beating Archaon in single combat.

No, he isn't. Malerion defeated Archaon in a battle, not single combat.

>>48275040
Last time Archaon fought Nagash one on one he had to call a dozen Bloodthirster to make Naggy flee.

>>48275077
That's even more impressive.

>>48275080
the generals handbook has a new section called "The Death of Nagash" where archaon whoops him in single combat

>>48272196
THE LAKE OF THE LAKE DOTH RIDE A HUMONGOUS BEETLE

Right, so we can all agree that Archaon has no arms?

ALL THREE CITIES ARE ORDER.

C'MON DESTRUCTION, C'MON OGORS! YOU CAN DO IT!

>>48275095
I was kind of surprised there wasn't at least a few bretonnians in the end times book who, when they heard the Lady was just Alarielle just said "ah, fuck it look at those thighs" and crusaded for their waifu goddess.

Is there any hope for anything that's not order? I hardly see any death or destruction players anywhere, everyone's order and then you get the occasional chaos.
>tfw living city won't get taken by death

>>48275088
Not very. He won a single battle but lost the war and went into hiding.

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>>48275062
>Hold the fucking line
>Subtract 2 from the Battleshock roll if engaged with an enemy unit that has more wounds than your unit

>You ARE the support, son
>If engaged in a combat in which you are outnumbered at least two to one, roll a dice for each friendly model that flees, on a 4+ that model finds his courage, and does not flee.

>>48275140
Isn't that what Archaon is doing all the time?

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So, here's a breakdown right now.

In Greywater Fastness, Order has a very large majority, with Chaos and Destruction roughly equal, Death is the smallest.

In Phoenicium, Order also has a large majority, with Chaos being the obvious second, and Death and Destruction are roughly equal.

In the Living City, Order is again holding strong, with Destruction pressing in hard in second. Chaos is small here and Death is non-existent.

I hope this looks like a siege, with the Order holding early on while slowly being worn down over the month.

>>48275199
What?

>>48275201
Oh shit, Chaos just surged in the Living City, it's now the same as Destruction.

>>48275138
Well, Death didn't got any new sculpts since End Times and Destruction only had the Ironjawz, so only old time fans play them I guess. I might be projecting since I play Death.

>>48275201
>>48275213
Please stop.
Make a daily report or something if you must, but shouting out every little change over a month is going to get tedious.

>>48275221
Well, they did make that Fleshcourt kitbash rule legal.

>>48275258
I just did both of those because it happened so close to the first one, and didn't want people complaining it's not right. I wasn't planning on writing down every change.

How would a game where there's different factions fighting together work? Me and a few friends do chaos order and death armies and in bigger battles we fight on the same side, would we have to choose who the points go to for the victory or can we not even fight together?

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>>48274738
Kill them all

>>48275263
Oh yeah, and I love them, but it's not the same scale as a release with new sculpts like the Sylvaneth, Fyreslayers, Khornates etc

>>48275302
How the hell does that work?

And you pick your Allegiance, and your army wins points for that Allegiance, not just based on army composition, probably.

>>48275258
>stop being excited about a real time summer campaign that will actually determine the next direction of the story REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>48275336
>how the hell does that work, fluffwise, I mean.

>>48275302
Since you report the winner to whoever takes care of the points in the store you just tell him what allegiance gets the point. If you play some sort of team game you can tell him that order and death won and he can give one point to order and one to death. Or not if he thinks team matches shouldn't be part of the summer campaign.

>>48275353
Age of Sigmar has infinitely large worlds and promotes a "Your Dudes" kind of fluff.

It's pretty obvious Order was going to win everything from the start. GW probably already has the story written and sent to the printers.

It's all because of the sylvaneth release. Sylvaneth are fighting for order in ghyran.

Next summer campaign, if GW wants someone else to take the lead, they will probably do something like rerelease tomb kings so death will be on top or something.

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REMEMBER ALL SKAVEN TO REPORT EACH VICTORY TWICE, POSSIBLY THREE TIMES.

Reminder that Man-things foolish Light-god CANNOT lie.

The Great Horned One smiles upon such deceit, now go-go!

>>48275353
No clue at all, we don't really care about it too much when we just want a big huge battle going on though.

>>48275386
Yeah, I was asking for the fluff where that makes sense. I know you can do it, I wanna know how it happened.

>>48275412
Fucking RATS, you're going into our cooking pots.

t. Ogors.

>>48275428
That's cool I guess. Be better with fluff, but do what you guys find fun.

>>48275403
Order would probably win even without the Sylvaneth. It's by far the biggest of the alliances. It's got humans, stormcasts, dwarfs, lizards and elfs. Destruction and Death are tiny in comparison, only chaos has a chance to compare.

>>48275446
Yeah I would if I actually knew anything about the current fluff, I only know oldworld and a load of 40k even though I haven't ever played, bought or read anything 40k.

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WHY IS ORDER WINNING EVERYWHERE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>48275489
Coz the foot of our goddess

>>48275489
Becus order is the master race.

>>48275489
Order has a leg up because Alarielle doesn't skip legday unlike the other faction leaders.

>>48275489
Serisously, this may have teh opposite effect GW is expecting in the long run. If Order absolutely dominates everywhere accross the board, then it will be rather discouraging, even for some Order players.

It will make the next campaign rather dull because everyone already knows Order will win. Sure a few Order players may switch and dust off their other faction to keep things interesting, but for the most part most people will keep with their originals.

>>48275524
fuck that, these lands are nurgle's
>>48275526
please.
>>48275530
good point

>>48275533
You're calling that kinda early. The event has just started and is gonna last a month. Possible that stuff gets shaken up on the weekends.

>>48275489
It's cause they have too many factions in there.

Most of the old world armies went into Order. So obviously, combined they have the advantage.

>>48274616
Okay, that settles it then. Saturday I'm gonna fuck some shit up with my Rotbringers.

>>48274738
>implying the "land of the free" should be Order, not Chaos

>>48275536
Nurgle is noob his greate champion Glottkin is dead and the geate are recovered by Sylvaneth!

long live Araliell!

>>48275533
All the impulse-buy kids currently use their shiny new Sylvaneth armies. Come next week, Bonesplittaz are out and then I expect a sudden increase of Destruction wins.

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>>48275489
>play Order
>tfw non-Order fags are throwing tantrums

>>48275580
I hope so, honestly.

Don't get me wrong, I really do want order to win because Im an order-fag. But I would like it to be a Pyrrhic victory, or at least one of the cities fallen to death or destruction (fuck chaos).

I do like that Order are holding them all right now. They would, early on, wouldn't they?

It would be ridiculous if on the first day of fighting, all of them fell to other factions.

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Servants of Chaos. Slaves of Darkness. Now is the hour to show your metal to the Gods. Now it is time to earn your glory beneath the gaze of the Archaon Everchosen.

The Everchosen watches over you. Do not fail the Everchosen!

This war is just beginning. The forces of Order will yet be crushed for it the will of the Gods and their Everchosen. Do not give in to doubt. Those who walk the Path to Glory will never know defeat.

Posting appropriate marching music for the glorious legions of Chaos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV26zIE0130

>>48275489
It's the same as Storm of Chaos.
Everybody vs Chaos can only have one conclusion.

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>>48275536
REMOVE NURGLE, REMOVE NURGLE!
PLAGUESPAWN GENOCIDE BEST DAY IN MY LIFE!
PURGE THE ROTKIN, WAR OF LIFE NOW!

>>48275630
It's not everybody vs chaos.

>>48275647
yeah for destruction players at least its destruction vs everyone, including destruction

>>48275664
Death is Nagash Vs Everyone.

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>>48275682
MYAAH!

Ghyran is almost retaken, Gate are safe,Glottkin lost and die,soon offensive goes out of Ghyran and Archaon will lost....

Holy Shit America, what are you doing? Order has over 50% of the wins.

>>48275682
in the land of life there is not death - Araliell

>>48275682
I'm beginning to think GW is trying to weaken nagash in power enough that a rival can rise up and try to take his place as lord of death.

Enter Settra

>>48275732
Most of the country GW stores aren't even open yet...

>>48275628
How many times did you have to type Everchosen?

>>48275593
>>48275740
Goddamn Order-scum, don't even know the name of their own Gods.

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>>48275744
>Enter the based Mannfred

FIFY

>>48275775
One for each point in the eight pointed star. I am short four Everchosens.

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>>48274738
I BURN THINGS IN THE NAME OF ORDER!

>>48275783
>Mannfred
>Based
We're not talking about the same Mannfred are we ? Especially since there's a lot of other vampires that are based. Or did he find a brain in AoS ?

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>>48275664
>Implying Chaos isn't more about damning and killing each other than achieving real goals

This is why we can't have nice things
And i love it

Also Everchosen is a faget !

>>48275832

No, he's still an incompetent failure in AoS too.

>>48275825
Nudist beard-thing! Look-see, tree-things over there have shiny-shiny!

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>>48275762

>>48275489
BECAUSE YOU DONT HAVE GOLD OR FIRE!

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POST CHARACTERS THAT SURVIVED ENDTIMES AND ACTUALLY GOT SHIT DONE BACK THEN AND DIDN'T END UP LAUGHABLE IN AOS. PIC FUCKING RELATED.

>>48275628
Who gives a flying fuck about the everchosen? If anything I fight for the gods not the manbaby Archaon.

>>48275920
archaon is everchosen of the gods. if you fight for the gods, you fight for the everchosen. sorry anon, you're archaons lackey no matter what you think

>>48275920
That's like saying you, as a crusader, fight for God and not for the Pope as well.

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>>48275910
Arkhan the Based.

so I've been giving it some thought on how to best use the Celestant Prime

I think you have to build a list around him but that list isn't necessarily super restrictive, it is quite defensive though. Thankfully that's the Stormcast specialty

The Celestant needs to come in on round 3 if you can afford to. Even without an azyros he can come in within 9" of the enemy and only needs to roll a 6 on his charge roll to get in pile in range. Thankfully he has his bullshit die change mechanic so he will always get the charge, although hopefully you can save the die roll change for an actual attack.

With a lord celestant on foot, he'll do approximately 10.4 unsaved wounds against a 3+ armor model on turn 3, plus whatever he rolls for his comet.

The fact that the hammer hits aren't mortal wounds is actually a blessing in disguise as Archaon and Nagash will only have a 6+ save against the -3 Rend and are denied their potent anti Mortal Wound saves.

The magic here is that the Prime has to be the second hit in a one two punch combo. 10.5 unsaved wounds against Archaon (8.33 if your Celestant on foot ate shit) isn't going to kill him on its own.

Combining it with the Stormcasts other bullshit maneuver of a Vexillor with a Pennant teleporting 10 Retributors into melee definitely will though.

But first you'll have to survive until turn 3. A Castellant is nearly mandatory for this list. I'm still thinking of the optimal army for carrying a Celestant prime but I'm not sure if I would ever use him in games under 2k

>>48275948
Good choice.

>>48275177
>stop exploding you cowards
>gain an additional save against critical damage

>>48275938
>>48275939
>Archaon was more myth than man, and more a force of nature than an enemy to be fought. His servants were legion and his aims simple: the complete and utter subjugation of the Mortal Realms in the name of the Ruinous Powers.

>But the Ruinous Powers already had dominion here. It had been theirs for centuries. And what good had it done them? What good was absolute control, without an enemy to test yourself against? Archaon was a raging fire that would devour everything and snuff itself in the process.

-Sharizad the Crystal Princess on Archaon Everchosen

What does she mean by this?

>>48275939
>WWII
>Germany, Italy, Japan all in "axis powers"
It's like saying Japan fights for hitler or something, you can be on the same side and not fight for the same person. It's just GW trying to make this a "not-horus vs not-emperror" thing thats making people act so retarded. Sylvaneth are order, do they fight for Sigmar? Fuck no!

Thinking of running an army of zombies with the ghost units, I'll use the zombies to tie up units and then use the hexwraiths to go and shred weakened units, the spirit hosts will probably be used to shred down beefy units because of the mortal wounds on a 6.
What do you guys think? I'm not too sure what to add or change about this, maybe it's just a terrible idea overall?

Chaos is doing a pretty hefty push on Phoenicium, wouldn't be surprised if it falls.

>>48274353
The difference being that 40k is big enough to survive despite not being supported.
You know that the lack of that kind of support is inevitably sinking the flagship too, right?

Also Death is nowhere to be seen in the battle for the "Living City", not sure if ironic.

>>48275938
So says the manbaby with the eye that shows many truths but merely are simple false truths, he's nothing more than there greatest pawn to take the realms, if he does so the Gods are done with him.

>>48275489
We have angels, dinosaur angels riding bigger dinosaurs, an army of Groots, lava blooded dorfs riding lava dinosaurs, every kind of elf, and all the mortals

Chaos, death and destruction need a serious boost in variety to their options

>>48276013
>Phoenicium will be fought over by participants in Europe.

>Chaos going to overtake Order

KEK

we were right to leave.

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>>48275489
Order is metal as fuck. That's why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YLwRvsqWFc&ab_channel=Jidni1

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>Post yfw salty Chaosfags are already assblasted that this looking to be another repeat of the Storm of Chaos, right down to Gordrakk giving Archaon a massive concussion by headbutting him

>>48275967


Ah crap, I forgot that you need to be within 1/2" of an enemy model at the end of your charge. What a waste.

Either way that just means for your charge roll you need to roll a 3 or above on either dice to be able to use your bullshit result manipulation and get the charge. Not horrible

>>48276098
To be fair, they are close to getting ahead in one of them.

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I mean it's better than Chaos having it all, but this is a complete whitewash

>>48275985
He will rise like an unholy beast of chaos, but even a beast must die, such is the way of warhammer.

>>48276129
They're close to getting equal. to get ahead they'd need to beat them first.

>>48276145
Let's see how it is at the end of the first day before we really judge.

And it'll likely change more on weekends, anyway.

how long is this event going be on for? im still building my shit

>>48276145

A beacon of hope for the realms, Chaos can be defeated.

>>48276184

1 month

>>48276184
A month.

>>48276145
It's the first day. A weekday at that. Give it a chance for shit to actually happen.

Is it worth grabbing a vampire lord & a Necromancer in points games? The extra attacks seem really damn good but I'm not sure if it's the best spend of them.

>>48275967

I actually like this list, I'm going to run it once and see how it does.

The idea is to brick up until turn 3 and then vexillor + hammerstrike + Celestant right out into the enemy or objectives. It's a pretty mobile list for Stormcast.

2000/2000 points

Celestant Prime: 360
Lord Celestant on foot (general): 100
Vexillor: 200
Castellant: 100

Battle line--

5 liberators: 100
5 liberators: 100
5 liberators: 100

10 retributors: 440
5 protectors: 200
6 prosecutors: 200
Hammerstrike force: 100

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Phoenicium has fallen to chaos!

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>>48276145
Oh shit Phoenicium just fell to Chaos!

>>48276320
>>48276332
It's a bit sad that I'm almost sure no city will fall to Death or Destruction.

>>48276320
>>48276332

>Europe falls to Chaos

How Topical.

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>>48275783
>Mannfred
>based

Pick only one.

>>48276361
Leave your /pol/ bullshit out of this thread.

>>48276372
Just thought it was funny, what with Brexit, the Italian and German Banking Crisis and the Refugee crisis.

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'murrica confirmed for only wanting to play the good guys.

>>48276407
Europe is always on some kind of crisis.

>>48276431
True, true.

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>>48276408
>tfw you live in and fight for the land of the free

>>48276342
Yeah, I really wish one of them got a win. I play both, so either's good for me.

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>>48276320
>>48276332
Keep fighting lads! Reclaim the city!

Phoenicium's back to contested.

I wonder if they'll write the stories based on how it changes?

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PHOENICIUM CONTESTED

PUSH EM BACK BOYS

>>48276481
If they do, it's unlikely to be hour-by-hour. Maybe daily.

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>>48276408
Well, the bad guys are kinda shit. Chaos is just ugly bodybuilders with a bunch of spikes, Death is lead by unfunny Saturday morning cartoon villains that doesn't get shit done and Destruction are just thugs with no personality.

Meanwhile Order is sophisticated, looks dashing, fights for freedom from the Chaos oppression, has likeable leaders and they are not retarded like the other factions.

>>48276466
>>48276489

This is really fun, actually. Just wish Order wasn't quite so strong. Give Death and Destruction a chance to change things up.

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>>48276320
>>48276332
GET OUT OF MY REALM, CHAOS FUCKING SHITS!

>>48276510
I am actually having a lot of fun right now, I didn't expect it to be this exciting

>>48276507
>Chaos is just ugly bodybuilders with a bunch of spikes

Agreed, but you get to play as Skaven, big plus-bonus.

>Meanwhile Order is sophisticated, looks dashing

Literally just the new Sylvaneth models. All other Order are either faggy dorfs or bulky Space Marines.

>>48276568
I think a lot of is the live updates, you can watch as your side fights, wins and loses. Adds a lot to the experience.

>>48276569
>Agreed, but you get to play as Skaven, big plus-bonus.

I keep forgetting that Skaven is Chaos now.

>Literally just the new Sylvaneth models. All other Order are either faggy dorfs or bulky Space Marines.
Sigmarines are fixed Chaos warriors.

>tfw heading out to rack up some wins for Destruction
Wish my Ironjawz luck lads. I'm also picking up a box of gore gruntaz and some more 'ard boyz to add to the total.
I was going to buy them anyway

>>48276607
GO ON LAD

CRUSH SUM A DEM PUNY 'UMIES FOR US

'N DON'T FORGET TA PAINT EM', YOU GET POINTZ FER DAT AN ALL.

>I am actually considering buying models in my local GW again just for the damn campaign

Fucking GW and their fucking sales methods.

>>48276656
what side are you on, anon?

>>48276630
I need them for an event this weekend, so they'll get painted up over the next few days. Grunties are top fucking percentage, bought my first box a week ago and had a lot of fun building/painting/playing, shame I didn't know about the campaign until a few days ago or I would've held off on my purchase. Destruction has to win something r-right?

Bringing my Dark Elves to fight to for Death, for Nagash shall endure!

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>14th of July until the 14th of August
>Will finish my new Tree people army before the end of July
2 weeks of battles it is

For Alarielle!

ORDER RECLAIMS PHOENICIUM

>>48276663
Hope so!

>>48276664

But Dark Elves are Order. How are you going to report for Death?

>>48276685
Talked to the manager at my local GW, you can fight for different factions. He also asked me to fight something else than Order or Chaos, because we have so much Order and Chaos players.

>>48275867
You laugh, but one of the Sylvaneth Households actually DO make their weapons out of Ur-Gold.

I also find it funny that they don't have a single battalion that lets them use Wanderer units (other than the generic "Order Wizard" one), but they DO have one that specifically lets them take two units of dwarfs.

>>48276685
My local redshirt just recored me as Skaven and lets me choose where my points go whenever I am reporting. Maybe theirs did the same?

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>>48276680

When is Abaddon going to pull out the Planet Killer?

>>48276184
Same here.

>Meticulously building my Bretonnians
>Probably only finish when the campaign is over.
>Haven't even started my Skaven

I hope we get another one soon, this thread is fun to read during it.

Wish I hadn't sold my WHFB minis.

>>48276788
>Wish I hadn't sold my WHFB minis

Remember that one guy who burned his Dark Elves?

>>48276734
Man, our guys in Phoenicium really need to fortify. That Chaos incursion is no joke.

>>48276811
Fucking idiot, atleast I got some money off them.

Wish i'd fucking kept them though

>>48276811
I honestly feel sorry for the people who still hate AoS and just want to play Fantasy. Their whole world got wrecked, they can't buy their models anymore, nor bases for thrid party models and to make it all worse GW does this really awesome AoS event, showing the system really good support. Wonder if Fantasy would have flourished again if they showed it the same kind of attention.

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>>48276811
That guy was such an asshole. It did in no way hurt Games Workshop and he just released a bunch of toxic fumes into bis backyard.

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WHO NAKED FIRE DORFS HERE!?

>>48276839
what did you sell, anon?

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Phoenecium is pretty contested at the moment lads, I wonder who'll take it when night falls.

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>>48276874
Order holds the line.
No matter the cost.

>>48276873
Only the Greenskins Battalion Box, so nothing too heartbreaking. Managed to pick up a Bretonnian and Skaven battalion box though before they stopped being sold, so that's a win-win.

I'm hoping things take a turn against Order in the Greywater Fastness, my Skaven are untouched and I don't want to be fighting a downhill battle with the Brets.

>>48276874
Order will probably hold it by the skin of their teeth. The next few days will be interesting.

>>48276097
Any art of order's big 4 all united up?

>>48276874
Are Destruction and Death only tie breakers, here? Just a thorn in the side of the two big ones?

>>48276507
Nagash would be so much better if he had some personality

>US and UK
>Doesn't matter who you play, order wins anyways
>EU
>every victory can count

Feels good being actually able to do shit.

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>>48276845
Honestly, I'm a 6'th edition fag and I hated 8'th edition. I would like to play Kings of War, but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of local players around for that.

However, I rather play Age of Sigmar than 8'th edition WHFB, so after being resentful about about the death of WHFB for a year I'm willing to get invested in AoS. The Sylvaneth actually look pretty slick and I like the fact that I don't have to get a bunch of elves.

>>48276569
You forgot the Dinosaurs

>>48276987
The US one maybe. The UK/Rest one could change too. It's not overwhelmingly Order like the US/Can one.

>>48276946
Tbh I think it would be quite enjoyable to be a D&D player here, it's only when you're the minority where you can really feel your effects.

Winning as a Stormcast army is just another point to the (seemingly) landslide they have going, but winning as the Deathrattlers adds a point to the place of the little guy who needs everything he can get, makes your victories far more meaningful.

>>48276982
That used to be the case prior to Black Library and the End Times. It was the best Nagash because all you would know about him outside his desire to rule and to never die was that he was sinister. Making his tantrums and childish bullshit a part of his character just sucks all the appeal out him.

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Any ideas on what to count this as if I make it into a chaos dwarf steam golem? Thinking of just replacing the mechanical bits with parts from the iron demon like a smokestack and boiler. Could this work well? Thinking of using it as a demon prince.

>>48276992
>I like the fact that I don't have to get a bunch of elves.

A plus to any situation imo

>>48277049
Except for the Slavery industry, obviously.

>>48274353
For every single Fantasy release during 8th, 40k would get 3. That is the support he is talking about.

>>48277060
Elves are scrawny and weak and have trouble procreating, not good slaves.

>>48277036
Don't know about the size but demon prince or greater demon seem like the way to go. Or some hero, I don't know about chaos dorfs though.
BUT that will be a whole lot of money for a steam golem. I mean still a neat centerpiece, but it will vanish between all the other big guys running around in AoS.
Also a heavily converted warmachine mech could be better as a base model, aren't some of them made of plastic? Or one of the bigger reaper bones models and slap some wire, cogs and stuff on it. A steam Cthulhu would be dope.
OR go full retard and put the upper body of this guy on one of the 40k chaos dinosaurs. Enjoy your shaggoth /bull centaur.

Anybody using doomfire warlocks? i have 15, should i continue using them as a single unit or divide them on groups?

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>>48272113
I just looked through the General's Handbook and dont see points for Bretonians. Did they not get points? I'm only surprised because I thought the GW facebook page had said they were going to... or someone had. Am I crazy? Am I fool for clinging to my faith in The Lady?!

>>48277202
They're further in the book, not under Order.

>>48277202

You're just blind.

>>48277135
It's on a 60mm base so it's kinda small, and I'd be getting it second hand so it would be like 20 for it plus 40 more for iron demon parts. I'm not sure what reaper models you're talking about but my shophone wouldn't allow non gw models. Which 40k chaos Dino do you mean? That sounds like a cool idea but I don't think there are very many horse-like robots in 40k around that size.

>>48276859
he collects sigmarines now, no joke

>>48276255
Do the math versus your other options. The formula for average wounds versus 4+ armor isn't hard.

>>48277174
>doomfire warlocks

Single unit in matched play, divide them in open game.

>My OP image album
imgur.com/gallery/12eeL

Let's talk about resources pastebin, should I remove the 3rd party point system? And some outdated material, like... $200 army idea? The start collecting set just plain superior.

>>48277229
Really?

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>>48277220
Talking about reaper bones stuff. It's the cheapest material, and can be a bitch to work with, but I'd say it's easier to convert than resin. Also if you fuck up it didn't cost that much. But if you don't want to go non GW forget it. Also it would need really heavy conversion, as they have a generic fantasy aesthetic.
What I'm talking was about is the forgefiend/maulerfiend. He'd probably fit into a a Chaosdwarf army without any conversion. It probably fits fantasy better than 40k, but it's not a bad model. Pic related is the melee version. The ranged one has two gattlings/plasma cannons for arms.
Also another advice, if you want to give anything a more organic/demonic touch, get a box of the chaos spawns. They are great even you put the whole sprues into your bitzbox, without building any spawns. One of the best still remaining, fully modular GW kits imo (maybe it's the only one by now ?).

>>48277229
That oaf seems impulsive and fickle enough to do just that.

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>>48277266


Yeah the competive stuff is all unsupported now, generals handbook is pretty good.

You could update the $200 army deals to include the start collecting boxes though.


On an unrelated note:
>yfw Wardens of the Realmgate is allowed in Matched and is the cheapest formation Stormcadt have

>>48277335
I actually have a forge fiend in my basement and that may work, thanks!

>>48277408
Good luck bro. I love to think about kitbashing. Remember to post progress, if you really get to it.

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Never have I been more proud to be an american.

https://youtu.be/IhnUgAaea4M

>>48277486
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKM1AAzeRCg

>>48277354
>yfw Wardens of the Realmgate is allowed in Matched and is the cheapest formation Stormcadt have

So? It can't move far away which sucks for an army so reliant on its teleporting and the summoning of new units is exactly as restricted as any other summoning.

>>48277567


Because it costs 80 points for free refills on my retributors, taking a Castellant and two liberators isn't exactly a burden either.

It doesn't really matter that it won't always be optimal when it's competing price options are a Relictor or two Demigryphs

>>48277445
I'll probably pick up the hammer dude from Chinacast so I'll start on it in a few weeks. I have one from a friend that hestes using for his admech so I can at least test sizes now.

>>48277486
What's with the sudden surge of Death?

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'sup guys. Currently mustering my stormhost for the defense of Phoenicium. Lucky that the Radiant Gallants are specialized in city-fighting, huh?

More seriously, I'm just now tooling around with my list for the weekend, and I'm a little uncertain how to proceed.

Here's the basic idea:

Radiant Gallants Strike Force (Order allegiance)

Lord-Celestant (Reckless, Relic Blade) - 100
Liberators (5; swords&shields, grandsword) - 100
Liberators (5; hammers&shields, grandhammer) - 100
Decimators (5) - 200
Protectors (5) - 200
Judicators (5; crossbows, shockbolt) - 160
Judicators (5; crossbows, shockbolt) - 160
Skyborne Slayers - 140

Retributors (5; 2 starsouls) - 220
Retributors (5; 2 starsouls) - 220
Prosecutors (3; hammers&shields, grandhammer) - 100
Hammerstrike Force - 120

Now, that leaves me with 200pts left over. But what to take? Maybe this:

Knight-Venator (Phoenix Stone) - 120
Prosecutors (3; javelins&shield, trident) - 80

It would reinforce the whole theme of swift intervention force calling in reinforcments from on high. Downside is that I'd need to paint three just basecoated Prosecutors in a hurry.
Other options would include upgrading the Liberators to ten men each or adding another five Protectors.
Opinions, thoughts or ideas?

>>48277763
Man seeing them on squat bases makes me wish I could put my necrons on square bases

>>48276507

>gordrakk
>no personality

fuck you.

>>48277763
Maybe add three Prosecutors to the unit you already have and take a Castellant. Or toss the Hammerstrike force, combine the two Retributor units and take a Vexillor, then take a Castellant from the leftover points.

Because let's be honest here, the Hammerstrike Force is just not that great when you can simply take a Vexillor and teleport the Retributors without worrying about where you place the Prosecutors.

And since they can zip across the field, they still fit your theme.

>>48277874
>Necrons on square bases
Man that would look cool. Sure the first template would shred your whole block of Warriors, but it'd look cool while it lasts.

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>>48277925
While I love the Lords-Castellant, they're just too slow for this force. By the time he's have hustled across the table the fighting will ideally already be winding down.
I've been considering taking a Knight-Vexillor, which would save me 20pts, but leave me with a single guy that just sits about uselessly, while the Prosecutors at least could contribute a little, notorious pillow-fisted-ness aside.

>>48276507
>Destruction are just thugs with no personality.

Did you read Fury of Gork?

>>48276939
>big 4
Storm, seras, fyredorfs and trees?
Nope, but there's enough of each one paired with stormboys, so a shop should be easy.

>>48278022
Would be neat if the games had armies where different shaped bases were part of their specific rules

what's the absolute brickest army I can make with Stormcast?

>>48278196
No. I consider the novels to be a waste of paper.

>>48278529


They're surprisingly ok

>Order in control of all three cities.

Of course. I blame the starter kits and Sylvaneth releases.

>>48278580
Nigga it's the first day.

>>48278580
They time releases like this as an attempt to coreograph the events, it doesn't always work

>>48278558
In my experiences most of the Warhammer IP novels are baddly written and predictable. In particularly the Horus Heresy books for telling an unironic soap opera about a bunch of demigod manchildren with projected daddy issues instead of accepting that the primarchs were very silly.

>>48278439
Look at the following formation:

10 Liberators with shields + 10 Liberators with shields
5 Protectors + Lord-Castellant + Lord-Castellant + 5 Protectors
5 Judicators with bows + 5 Judicators with bows
5 Judicators with bows + 5 Judicators with bows

Rank them up in this way, with the extra Liberators guarding the brick's flanks in a L shape. Stick a Celestant-Prime in the middle and a Gryph-hound on each side of the Judicators. If possible, put the whole lot into terrain.
Shine your lanterns on each Liberator unit for at least a 3+, rerolling 1s, with a heal on top; everything behind them benefits from the -1 to hit provided by the Protectors.
Now put pressure on your opponent thanks to the excellent range of your bows and the prime's nuke. Never move. If he doesn't engage your massed shots and the comets will chew him apart, but in melee he has to engage the super-tough Liberators, with the Protectors safely contributing savagely from behind, while your gunline continues to fuck up his forces. Meanwhile, the Gryphhounds warn you from deepstrikers and similar shenanigans.