Age of Sigmar General

>>48246615
What are you talking about? I downloaded it and the filename is 1468358317927.png.

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Savage orc leaks are still probably at least half a week out.

so what conversions do you have planned?

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>>48246671

It's not that difficult.

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>>48246671
*sigh*

>>48246703
I'm actually going to make another unit of irondrakes. But I want to try something a little different.

I am going to use the ironbreaker heads with the beards on them, and mount the drakeguns over the shoulders, where their right arms hold them up, leaving their left arms free to hold things.

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Working on the first model of my Knights Excelsior stormcast, themed around the swamps of the realm of life. Still need to finish the tabard bits, leather, blue and black etc.

>>48246703
Right now I am cutting the Skaven pages out of the Grand Alliance: Chaos and plan on gluing them back together with a new cover/backpage to have a full fledged AoS Skaven Battletome. I want to say because I don't want to carry the huge Chaos book with me, but I know I simply don't want to have anything to do with the other Chaos factions.

>>48246615


Just a reminder that the sendspace link in OP is only there to get him 5 cents per click. Circulate the pdf or imgur album instead

>>48246703
40k player here, I track for conversions and occasiaonal lore curiosity, the Sylvaneth/Dryads stuff is going to be great for converting necrons, the bark textures and branches are som metal paint and snipping away from being wild necrodermis, and all the sprites can add variety to the scarab swarms, the New Drycha is a dead ringer for the c'tan shard of the endless swarm

>>48246751
That's looking nice. The verdigris ties the blue and the white together really nicely.

>>48246703

I made my two spare relictors into a Knight Vexillor and a 10th retributor respectively. Genuinely surprised at how good they came out, will post pics when I get home

>>48246809
Yeah you're an idiot. Hosting something on sendspace does not get you money, it gets them money. It's how they make their money for people hosting their shit up there for free.

>>48246751
Loving the idea so far. The Libby looks great and kudos for taking the starter set dude and giving him an upgrade set shield, I bet that took a fuckload of work to not look out of place.

And the base is absolutely perfect, it looks disgustingly wet and muddy.

>>48246778
Yeah, I'd like to do that for my Rotbringers too, but I've grown too attached to my GA book to cut it up.

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>>48246858


Shun the Jew, do not fall for his schemes

>>48246809
>Circulate the pdf or imgur album instead
Let me correct that for you:
>spoonfeed me plox, I am too stupid to click a download link and follow the instructions I find there

>>48246751
Nice weathering sempai, but your paints have no deepness.

>>48246755
not that anon but you can take different banners to get all of their bonuses.

>>48246751
Gotta say, this is the first 'clean' stormcast scheme that looks good to me. Well done. And nice work on the base as well.

>>48246946

someone in this thread actually used plox unironically

I hate summer

>>48247009
>has no idea what unironically means
Yeah, summer sucks.

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>>48246924
>>48246809

This. sendspace is garbage

Here's the legacy shit requested in the last thread

Anyone got the Beastmen pics?

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>>48246696
>Long time Lotr SBG player wanting to go whfb
>My favorite armies are orks and ents
>Always wanted an army full of Black orks or savage orks
>mid life crisis, went for a full Brawl of Ironjaws... more thousands dropped than I can remember
>just bought about 1500€ of sylvaneth and this come out...
>I m going to drop another 2k on that

who needs a shiny car anyway ?

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>>48247009
>summerfag using "unironically" wrong while complaining about summerfags

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>>48247003
Very few units have more than one banner or musician/icon though. and since you pick who dies it's near pointless to have more than one of the same. But yes you can.

Champions obviously come alone and must pick between options. also wrong image

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reposting free guild points

>>48247107
>since you pick who dies it's near pointless to have more than one of the same
Untrue. Sometimes your opponent pincers you in a way that the most beneficial model for you to remove as casualty turns out to be your standard bearer. If you had a spare, you could take that model away and keep the bonus. This is however, exceedingly rare and tends to be proof that you screwed up your movement, but it CAN happen

>>48247107
The second GW releases a model/spell/batallion that allows a player to snipe certain models it would be the smartest to have everyon carry a banner/instrument.

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>>48247058


Got you covered senpai

1/2

>>48247107
>Deathmaster only 20 points above an Assassin
>Deathmaster has better save, anti-hero rules, etc.

Since he also has the 'assassin' keyword you can shove him into the Eshin clawpack too.

I was expecting points to fix this admittedly minor issue, but unless you really cannot squeeze out 20 pts to spare or your lgs bans named characters you'll never take an Assassin over Snikch Unless you really want 2 assassin's in your force.

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>>48247058


2/2

>>48246615
>things have points now
I might actually have to look at AoS again.

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>>48247298


It's breddy okay

>>48247255
You know, he's also 0-1, which compensates a bit. Yes, he's way better for his points, but you can never have more than 1. I find that a vast step up from WHFB where special characters used to be 0-1 AND overcosted. Similarly, Ikit is infinitely better than a normal Warplock for 40 points more and Skrolk is infinitely better than a normal Plague Priest for 20 points more.

>>48247235
There are technically a few, like a Stardrake nomming models, but frankly if you're in melee with a Stardrake, you quite literally have bigger things to worry about than keeping your musician safe

>>48247255


Just because everything tends to be in blocks of 100, it can sort of be difficult to find anywhere fit in 20 points.

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>>48247249
>>48247278
Aw Shieet thanks.

Did they not include Centigor?

>>48247333
>It's breddy okay
That's all I ask.

>>48247362
Centigor now fall under the Monsters of Chaos faction (for some arbitrary reason).

>>48246703

Nothing extensive, I'm looking for helmets that future well on Storm cast. My plan is to leave unit leaders with the face mask and everyone else as normal helms.

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>>48246703
Still working on this fucker. Or rather, trying to, since uni is a bitch right now and I wish I had time to actually get to painting.
Also, the little guy to the lower right, since I wanted a winged Lord-Celestant. On the table he'll be a Knight-Azyros with Master of Defense (to represent the shield) and Relic Blade (for the hefty battleaxe).

Anyway to extract the eBook from AoS app(Android)?

>>48247482

What is the chariot made from?

>>48247498


Ahahahahahaha

>>48247362

Anyone have the legacy Empire stats?

>>48247459
Do they have points? mind posting it, it sounds interesting.

I assume Centigor would be battleline, that's sort really the 'all monster' force i imagined

>>48247556
So... impossible?

BTW, the price tag of How to Paint Sylvaneth gone wild, £1 only, grab it quick.

>>48246703
I'm in the middle of converting a Lord relictor into a Wight King... First time using green stuff... There is a LOT of being used....

>>48247581
Don't have the jpg, but Centigors are 80 points for 5 and NOT Battleline. Neither is anything else in Monsters of Chaos. It's probably a Faction like Firebellies and Gargants, that is theoretically its own faction, but cannot be used on its own in Matched Play.

>>48247738


Do you have the point cost for Empire Knights?

>>48247521
Like a million different bits, but I assume you mean the armored front?mThat's made up from the spare pauldrons of the Stardrake connected by a Lord-Celestant's shield.

>>48247760
Yes, he has. Just like everybody else in the thread.

>>48247738

Is a chimera even worth taking now that it screws up your sub faction allegiance?

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>>48247802


Share the love bruh

I'm thinking of starting a Sylvaneth army of some sort, any advice for a complete noob?

>>48247808
Who plays sub-factions? Seriously, especially Chaos. Devoting yourself to a God without specifying Mortal or Daemon has absolutely zero bonus and taking Mortal into it only helps Nurgle (Blightkings) and Daemon helps nobody unless you for some reason want to run an all-Flesh Hound army, so you might as well take all of Chaos, at which point the Chimera fits again. Want an old-school WoC army? Sure, the Chimera fits in there as well, you just can't run all-cav plus Chimera.

Although, the Chimera is imo way overcosted. I mean yes, it's absolutely devastating with a ridiculous damage output, but it's also fragile as hell with its 5+ Save. And all of that for slightly MORE than a Mutalith.

>>48247849
Sure thing, mate.
>sendspace.com/file/n3nkx2
Here you go. Enjoy.

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>>48247904


Got an image for it?

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>>48247917
Yeah, I have them all.

>>48247065
I wish I had as much money to throw at models as you.

>>48247886
Treelord Ancients and Spirits of Durthu are amazing. Taking at least one is basically mandatory.
Dryads are your rank and file. Field them in units of 20 and they'll put in a lot of work.
Drycha is way undercosted and a absolute blender if used right.
Wyldwoods are your best friends. Have at least two ready to deploy. Your army revolves around them and loves them, because the Wyldwoods love your army.

>>48247890

I own the chimera abd don't want nor really like the mutalith us my thing. Not sure how to fit it into a beastmen or bloodbound list, either.

>>48246778
Something the guy at my sorta-local GW suggested with the Ga books was to take them to like Kinko's or something, get the binding cut off and then have them punched and spiral bound

>>48247738
80 for 5 ain't bad, i'm glad they are cheap. thanks

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>>48247917
As a matter of fact, I do!
I hope this helps.

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>>48246703
Head swapping my Stormcasts. I love the iron face masks but I feel its something that more special dudes should have rather then every mook.
Used my Stormcast as Grey Knights for a long time so the most have termy heads n' shit, but I finally tried AoS and really loved it, so now I''m making more fantasy looking dudes like pic related.

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>>48247955


Sweet, post Empire

8 confirms it

Just wondering, what is it that the ironjawz battle tome and all the tomes previous to the newest sylvaneth one are missing compared to the latest and ones to come?

I understand they are already now "behind" on the rules in some regard to books after the GHB? I stopped playing 40k many moons ago after buying a codex right before a new edition of the game came out and for my army to not recieve any kind of update for fucking years, i don't want that to happen again, unless its not that big of a deal?

Why can't games workshop structure there releases better.

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>>48248063
Looking good. Those look sorta dreamforge-ish.

>>48248104
>Why can't games workshop structure there releases better.

GW is the most incompetent band of fuckwits running a company you'll ever see.

What's missing is 'Warlord traits', Something that will basically be Chapter tactics, magic items, a faction bonus making dedication worth while, and supposedly 6 unique spells.

>>48248149

Ow thats a shame, that sounds like an awful lot of missing things. Then again this time round i am mostly just collecting and not gaming. I do love those ironjaw models too. Ah fuck it, i hate you games workshop but i will begrudgingly give you more money.

>>48247993
Thanks, for flavour I like Harvestboon but Gnarlroot has interesting abilities. Is this one of those wait till you have the basics things or is it worth making my mind up now?
I got the Battletome and my resolve is slipping, I'm going back to the hobby.

>>48248104
Basically, the new Sylvaneth book sets a new standard for care put into a product and goes a long way to adress issues the community had with certain aspects of the game.
Basically, the Sylvaneth are the first faction with their own relics, traits and spells to make the heroes more into *your dudes*, some special force arrangement in the form of Wargroves (which have been compared to Space Marine Chapter Tactics) that affect your playstyle and a few other matters.
Forces released until now didn't have them, so some feel a little left out. To be honest, my Stormcast and Brets don't mind. Stormcast have no spellcasters in the first place, brets don't need any other spells (and will never get their own, obviously) and the general relics and traits found in the General's Handbook are pretty much perfect for them, so no loss there.

>>48248149


This.

There's essentially zero reason outside formations to take Judicators instead of free guild handgunners or crossbow men. I get 30 handgunners or crossbowmen for less than the cost of 10 judicators.

>>48248239

I see, so the generals handbook comes with some default relics for any army to take (more specifically ironjawz)? Sorry if thats obvious i am only just now looking into collecting again.

>>48248216
I'd recommend you wait a bit befire committing. Get a few models done, play a few games, that sort of thing. Once you got a feel for the actual proceedings on the table you can look more objectively into those wargroves.
And don't start with Alarielle. She's so outrageously powerful that she quickly becomes a crutch for beginners. I've seen it happen with Nagash and it's pretty annoying to wean a player off of that.

>>48248352
Got it. Get a blob of Dryads, a Treelord Ancient or Drycha Hamadreth (a great model, caught my interest in WD) and see what works.

https://youtu.be/wDQI17PIv4M
Start at 8:55

its interesting to see these guys talk about their enthusiasm for the AoS GT which is going to be big at the LVO.

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>$40 dollar free guild general on griffin can whip the ass of a $150 lord celestant on star drake

>>48248320
The GBH has six relics and six command traits for each of the four big factions on top of a factional bonus for sticking to yours.
Now, here's where it gets tricky. To get those relics/traits (one of each for your army by default), you need to have *allegiance* to your Grand Alliance, i.e. Destruction in your case. That, however, means that your force cannot be Ironjawz allegiance at the same time, since you only get on allegiance at any time. This means, if Ironjawz have any units that become Battleline on the condition that you have Ironjawz allegiance, you are out of luck and need to bring baseline Batteline units.
(That said, I don't know if Ironjawz have conditional Battleline units, but I'd expect so.)

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>>48248482
>$77 Thanquol can kill anything after one round of magic/shooting.

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>>48248561

NOT
LEGAL

DELETE THI

>>48248352
Necron converter here, how big is the beetle? because depending on size I could make it fill in for a tomb stalker, or even a monolith

What does /tg/ think of the way summoning works in Pitched? More of a "choose your own reinforcements" than spam.

Is it better to spam empire Knights or Demigryphs as Free Guilds? I feel like with all the buffs I can give units, one big blob of horse Knights will put out more damage and have more staying power than just a few Demigryphs.

>>48248605
Easily an expensive stalker...

>>48248116
reminder that skaven players are the 13 year old angsty teenage edgelords of aos

>>48248696
I like it. Instead of giving summoners free points, they get a lot of flexibility and still have good mobility because of summoning things in is like a deep strike. I am pretty cool with it.

>>48248605
Mine is still in the mail, but a guy at the store already assembled one for last Saturday
It's pretty substantial, not monolith-sized, but certainly chunkier than a tombstalker.
But if you plan on that, I feel compelled to warn you from one necron player to another that the wardroth doesn't match the necron aesthetic at all. Like, not even a tiny bit.

>>48248718
so it would cost more money.... darn, part of me converts more for visual variety but the savings are a welcome part when I can land them

>>48248761
If done right it could look sick. Buuuut it's like three times the price!

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>>48248759
well was planning dome doing, and the use of other converted dryads to make a more matched mixed up mutant metal look, and... I would have used tomb kings parts to help blend but those are an ebay premium now, part of it was because I wanted a spiritual recreation of pic related

>>48248477
haha not bad for a dead game.

i don't see the ITC picking up KoW or 9th age.

>>48248482

How tho

Can command abilities that say "pick a unit within X inches of the general" target the general himself?

>>48249193
Yes.

Sylvaneth battletome posted yet?

>>48248734
Hey its grumpy-mad guy again. We get, you hate skaven.

>>48248992
The griffon is striaght-up a better brawler than the stardrake and the general is not much behind the celestant either, trading one range and to wound for a rend. Meanwhile, the griffon can ignore both sources of mortal wounds in melee and the ranged source barely affects it.

So do all old Empire units have point values?

My starterbox plus paint+stormcast box gets me this if I use my paladins as just stand ins for liberator grandhammers (since 3 isn't enough for a squad anyway)

What should I finish my 1000 point army with?

I don't really want to overspend on this considering the starter got me 700 points of stormcast AND those chaos guys for £54

Everything else stormcast just seems so stupidly priced.

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>>48249380
Woops, forgot image.

Getting started with AoS with a small Skaven list, hows it look?

Heroes
Warlord - General
Warpforged Blade
100 pts
Grey Seer
120 pts
Verminlord Warbringer
300 pts

Battleline
Clanrats x20
120 pts
Clanrats x20
120 pts

Other
Stormvermin x20
280 pts

Total: 1,040 pts

>>48249421
Over by about 100 points

>>48246751
>mfw this is eerily similar to my own color scheme, but with silver instead of gold

>>48249399
Wait, there's already an army builder with the points?

Is there a Battlescribe repository for my phone?

>>48249564
It's only partial and not official
http://www.scrollbuilder.com/

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Hoping to get some Blightkings soon, does anyone know what colors are used on this guy's armor on the box? I assume that the base is Incubi Darkness, but I could be wrong.

>>48249470
Is this a joke?
Double checked, its definately only over by 40, and my flgs is cool with that kinda thing

>>48249599
The Mighty Rhodes got you covered
https://youtu.be/Xy7AoKAywHk

>>48248492

I appreciate you explaining that anon, I was struggling to understand how it all worked.
It's not super important, I have no opponents and mostly cynical ex 40k friends that would only power game the shit out of this anyways, I just thought it would be nice to have a "legal army" if the occasion arose.

Practicing my painting on my old 40k models until my box of brutes arrive. I'm strangely looking forward to taking my time and buying small and painting up my force piece by piece. Again thanks for the explanation.

>>48249349
Yup
You can find them under 'legacy'

Hard to believe GW hasn't axed AoS yet. Specialist games are only supposed to last for a year.

>>48249648
40 points is a lot higher in AoS than it is in 40k or WHFB

>>48249799
Wooooow
People getting real lazy with the shitposting

>>48249239
Rules, yes. Pretty much all of them were posted before release.

Lore, probably not. I really do think it is being cheap as fuck refusing to buy books if you want lore though.

>>48249810
Fair nuff
I'll scrap tge warlord and have the Warbringer be general, prefer the grey seer model and abilities, with that in mind hows it look?

>>48249823
You can be a faggot and accuse anyone who disagrees with you of "shitposting", but it won't change the fact that AoS is a specialist game.

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>>48249856
I was going to say, drop the warlord and spend the points on perhaps an Assassin or weapon team. Not the Warpfire thrower it's kind of shit.

Other than that, yeah looks pretty standard generic troop army, nothing special and yet no huge flaws

Battleshock will start to fuck over those clanrats and even Vermin, i'd take advantage of the Grey Seer's command trait to keep everyone around.

Your plan will be to keep him safe and Mystic shield up on the Verminlord and/or Stormvermin..

>>48249869
>AoS is a specialist game.

Prove it senpai

>>48246615
>Tfw you cant find a Exalted Hero under 30.00$
How can I fight for the dark gods if I dont have a duel axe carrying murder machine?

>>48249759
So is that also in the Generals Handbook?

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>>48250232
>you cant find a Exalted Hero

It is $15 only, sword and axe is arite.

>>48250271
Yes, under compendium warscrolls

>>48248063
what heads are those? they look great

>>48251686
My only prob is that Im also buying a Mistweaver off Ebay, to act as a sorceress

>>48249310


Also add the fact that the general on a griffon is literally half the cost of a lord celestant on star drake. Has half the rules yet can match the big dragon pretty well.

>>48253072
>buying a Mistweaver off Ebay
Not buying the whole box! Neither do I.

>>48253172
>griffon is literally half the cost

Um... stardrake is tougher, and their maw attack is excellent against elites, kill 1 ironguts on average can't be bad. But stardrake is fucking expensive... in term of $£€¥

>>48253433
Fuck it, Theres a offer on ebay from a Canuck going for about 17 dollars. I'll fucking take it.

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£20/$33 new mini-starter.

Kind of neat.

>>48249421
grey seer is shit, and you need shooting. get a unit of jezzails, and drop your warlord while youre at it. you be at 960 which is legal.

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>>48246696
Why the fuck did someone leak that worthless mini-starter shit but not the bonesplitterz pages?!

>>48249932
>>48253973
>>48249856

consider switching the greyseer to a bsb. immune to battleshock, reroll 1s to hit.

>>48252538
I think they are from "Dreamforge Valkir"? Not 100% on that though. A buddy of mine had a bunch of spares I traded for.

>>48246703
Gonna paint them in my special snowflake chapter colors (they aren't that special) and add as much of my Black Templar conversion kit stuff as I can.

Because they're Sigmarines, see.

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To anyone who owns a gyrocpter/gyrobomber, could you measure the diameter of the disc above the rotor picture? Its the same on bot the copter and bomber.

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>Lost the All Gate in the Realm of Fire, Beast, and Life
>The fate of the All Gates in Shadow and Light is unknown
>The All Gate of Death was defended from the Stormcast but Nagash is marshaling his legions for an all frontal attack against it
>The All Gate in Chamon was defended successfully
>The Nine Gaunt Summoners are plotting against Archaon behind his back. They are going to pull something big soon
>Archaon lost control over Ignax thanks to the Daudrin rune. Ignax was set free and she fled away all those who would enslave her. This makes Archaon's efforts in the "Balance of Power" book pointless

This has been a bad week for Archaon. I cannot imagine his stress.

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with pic related, does adding the anointed as a rider add the points value for the rider as well? it's sort of confusing as you compare it to a free-guild general and a free-guild general on griffon having separate points values

>>48254732
>This has been a bad week for Archaon. I cannot imagine his stress.

The way you said this makes me think of Archaon at home, sitting at his desk with his head in his hands while his wife rubs his shoulders and tells him it'll be alright - they'll figure things out.

>>48254484
Unfortunately I'm at work and won't be back home for hours. If no one has done it by then, I'll let you know.

>>48249599
I use Incubi Darkness, Nuln Oil, light dry-brush of Hellion Green. I don't claim that's what they used, but it looks pretty fucking similar. If dry-brushing is too sloppy for you, edge-highlight with Gauss Blaster Green instead.

>>48249669
no, he doesn't, he uses a different scheme for the armor, unfortunately

>>48253433
Sure, but the issue was them fighting one-on-one.
For a guy that is literally half the points and even less in actual cash the General is a powerful brawler that can wreck the Lord-Celestant, mostly on account of the Gryphon being a stronger melee option than the Stardrake (who's more of a horde mulcher). Against the Rend-2 of two of the General's three melee profiles the Celestant has a 5+, rerolling 1s and 3 more wounds while the General has a straight 4+ against anything his foe has, so they're fairly even on the defense, too.
If either use their Command Ability on themselves it becomes even more pronounced.

>>48254738
You just explained it yourself. The Phoenix costs the same with the rider and without. If it had a different value than it would have a seperate entry like the free-guild general.

>>48254738
You could just, you know, have a look at the points table. Because it says quite fucking clearly that "Anointed of Asuryan", "Flamespyre Phoenix" and "Anointed of Asuryan on Flamespyre Phoenix" are all different entries.

I wonder if GW will be releasing an "FAQ for Absolute Fucktards" the day the book comes out..

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>>48254800
Do you have a different point table than me?

>>48254749
Isn't his wife some sort of hideous daemon-thing now?

>>48254732
I don't understand how Archaon is failing at all when he has that daemon that knows everything bound to his service

>>48254848

And she makes the most amazing lamb roast.

>>48247482
That's pretty fucking great, man. Props.

>>48254796
cheers man, i'll play it like that at the moment

>>48254800
dude, just asking an honest question since there wasn't really any clarity on the points leaked points table, but yeah it's GW so an "FAQ for absolute fucktards" is also likely to be published

>>48247249

any nice quality photos of sylvaneth or Ironjaws/Bonesplitaz?

>>48254749
>conquered various worlds
>master of chaos
>most powerful guy in the setting
>still no waifu
Life must be rough for Archaon

>>48254758
Thanks man. I am about to go to bed soon, so if you get back, answer it anyway if you can, I always monitor these threads even after they archived.

>>48254849
The Allgate book practically says it. He cannot be everywhere at the same time. He must rely on his minions to pull their own weight.

>>48254894
yeah, not feeding op any money with sendspace clicks..

if it wasn't for money it would have been on MEGA or Free.fr, not that shit

>>48254896
His one waifu he ever hand is a sister of Sigmar which turned out to be a daemonette is disguise working for his father Be'lakor. She manipulated the whole time and ensure he fell to Chaos utterly.

It's understandable why he doesn't trust women anymore.

>>48254908
>still thinks sendspace is some moneymaking scam

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I just noticed the Open Play: Aelves collection seems to be sold out on all of GWs online stores, kinda crazy.

Do you think there is some sort of significants in the way the collection is composed? EVERYTHING in that box is a wizard. Do you think they just made this as some sort of quick thematic pack to make some bucks or is there some potential hint for the future of Aelvekind in there?

>>48254987
The reason it's sold out is probably cause one of the component parts is sold out

>>48254907
I liked that moment where he realized that the other gates might well fall on account of him only employing morons.

>>48254908
You are a silly goose, anon.

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>>48254907
>Glottkin failed
>the maggoth riders failed
>Skarbrand failed multiple times
>skaven failed
>gaunt summoners plotting behind his back
>Ignax failed
Poor Archaon, it's like he's the only one capable of getting shit done while his lieutenants are a bunch of losers

>>48254908
Yeah, the remote possibility of OP getting 5 cents from you clicking that link is totally enough of a reason not to click it and to beg for the scans all the fucking time.

>>48255220
>gaunt summoners plotting behind his back
I have no idea how you see that as a sign of incompetence on anyone but Archaon's part.
I rather think its a sign of incompetence that the supposed greatest tactician can fail so dramatically to estimate what forces are necessary to win the day on each battlefield other than the one he attacked personally.
All of this makes him look like nothing but a dumb sledgehammer.

>>48255220
>>48255166
Archaon after defeating the attack on the Allgate in Chamon rushed into the portal to the Allpoint Nexus. He is heading over to protect what remained of the Allgates in Chaos's grasp.

Death, Light, and Shadow Allgates are currently in danger. Which Allgate do you think Archaon will choose to defend personally?

>>48246946
Why not use mediafire or MEGA? Those two are far more legitimate.

>>48255313
>I have no idea how you see that as a sign of incompetence on anyone but Archaon's part.

The Gaunt Summoners have been plotting and rebelling against Archaon since their enslavement. He has punished them many times already. They are too useful for him despite their shiftiness. They just cannot get it through their bunny shaped heads that they cannot be free from Archaon no matter how hard they try.

>I rather think its a sign of incompetence that the supposed greatest tactician can fail so dramatically to estimate what forces are necessary to win the day on each battlefield other than the one he attacked personally.

Unforeseen outcomes. Dragonbro's intervention, the Skaven sudden betrayal, Gordrakk's Waaaaagh! outta nowhere. All of which were outside his control. The Chaos Allgate were defended by plenty of forces and they had reinforcements a plenty from Varanspire. The problem there wasn't in the power or numbers deployed there. The faults were in the commanders in charge of the defense.

>>48255313
I was going a different direction with that post originally and meant to take out the gaunt summoners. It's even worst on his part that he literally walked in on one of them trying to betray him and doesn't think the other 8 would try something as well. IIRC he didn't actually kill that gaunt summoner but just banished him somewhere awful. He's still out there and knows Archaons Name and greatest weakness.
>>48255331
Death. Nagash is marshaling his hosts for an all out attack, and only Archaon would be able to stop him. Of all the gods, he probably finds nagash to be the biggest threat since he's actually revealed himself.

>>48255337
Because both of those require you to make an account while sendspace doesn't. Whoever made the link was probably just lazy.

>>48255375
>He's still out there and knows Archaons Name and greatest weakness.

First of all, Whisperfane is the Silver Tower or a Silver Tower.

Second, Archaon stated he gives no fucks if the Gaunt Summoner knew his true name. He is not a daemon prince. That name means nothing to him. Heck, the gods, Be'lakor, all the gods of Order know his true name. It's not really a secret to anyone but newfags in the setting.

Third, the Watcher King is now free. He reunited with the other nine.

>Death. Nagash is marshaling his hosts for an all out attack, and only Archaon would be able to stop him. Of all the gods, he probably finds nagash to be the biggest threat since he's actually revealed himself.

The Everqueen also revealed herself, dude. She is way more active that Nagash.

>>48255365
>Unforeseen outcomes.
I thought he can see the future? I give him the Waaagh! cause I remember in some book it said even Tzeentch can't predict the greenskinz in AoS anymore but he really should have seen the skaven betrayal coming.

>>48255384
Nooo, it's a conspiracy, I tell you. OP is shilling out the link made by another anon to get people to download something from a service that hosts things anonymously to make mad dosh of the adds. Nevermind logic or anything like that!

>>48248696
The fact that the couple of people at my FLGS absolutely hate the changes I think is indicative of it being a net positive for the game.

Personally I like the flexibility it affords, and plan to use it in a few Death armies I'm planning.

>>48255430
*the couple of people who abused the old summoning system absolutely hated it, rather

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>>48255375
>Nagash revealed himself
Revealed himself to be a whiny, incompetent little bitch with an inferiority complex a mile wide, you mean? If I were Archaon, I wouldn't bother with Shyish, leaving Nagash alone for a while should be enough to bring him utter defeat.

Whatever.

>Point system pdf for matched game
>Thx, Based Leaker!

mega.nz/#!7lZ2yDYI!ANWwfQHiJjr5ZbH6sfyruGRPGgWiDjso2uSGyJem1lg

>>48255403
>I thought he can see the future?

The Eye of Sheerin gives shows him the near future. Just a few moments into the future. It's useful in duels but useless for planning battle tactics or long term planning.

There are rare cases when the Eye showed him the far future but that only happens during momentous moments,

Archaon relies of The Gaunt Summoners and the Oracle of the Vault for sight into the Far-future. Surprise, surprise, they all advised him to protect the Allgate in Chamon first.

> but he really should have seen the skaven betrayal coming.

It wasn't him who contracted the Skaven. It was the Glottkin. Otto despite his brothers protest that the Skaven are not to be trusted, choose the Skaven as his allies.

>>48255430
Well, I know how I'll be using it in my Death army:
>Summoning Pool: 240 points
>take Vampire Lord
>Artifact: Sword of Unholy Power
>as soon as he's close enough, use the Sword for an unbindable, always-succeeding, in-addition-to-your-normal-spells Summon Morghast Harbingers
>charge them straight into melee via 3D6" charge range
>utter carnage ensues

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over the weekend I did some storage unit diving looking for some old stuff, and more of my 6E fantasy army was intact than I expected.

what should I know if I want to use old high elf units in current AoS? (for pitched)

I've read through the rules, and looked at the general's handbook stuff, but having not played any fantasy in well over a decade I have no points of comparison to judge anything.

pic related is what I have pulled out of storage, I think everything should be correct, I dug through the various warscrolls trying to figure out what units got new names, and am a little annoyed the shift seems to have left me with no good generic generals that affect highborn except the sea helm or a prince on gryphon (which I don't have)

what should I know going in and are there any recommendations for what to use from that list to build a vanguard force?

>>48255479
You are too indulging! Anon will now surely bitch about the Mega, too. With further out-of-control theories.

>>48255480
Otto despite his brothers protest that the Skaven are not to be trusted, choose the Skaven as his allies.
Well, and here I thought Ghurk was the stupid one, but even a mindless mound of fat and muscle that contributes nothing to the conversation is smarter than someone who trusts Skaven

>>48255475
>Incompetent
more like overly arrogant. he thought he could face Archaon without Sigmars help, but Archaon still had to deal with him personally in each of his defeats. Archaon leaving him alone is a sure way that Nagash takes back control of the shysh allgate. It would be better to take out Nagash first and secure his hold on the realm of death. Nagash may be an idiot but he's still too powerful for anyone but Archaon to take out.

>>48255402
Alarielle already has control of her allgate, Archaon is rushing to one of the ones that is still open.

>>48255630
>he thought he could face Archaon without Sigmars help,

To be fair, he had enough of Sigmar stabbing him in the back each time they ally with each other. Enough is enough, man.

>Archaon failing to see Skaven betrayal
>Sigmar failing to see Nagash betrayal

Will Mannfred and Be'lakor betray everyone with nobody expecting it next?

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It would be beyond hilarious if Archaon showed up in Shyish to thwart Nagash and punish him for his arrogance

>>48255752
>Archaon failing to see Skaven betrayal

Archaon did not have the Skaven defend the Allgate in Ghyran. Otto Glottkin allied himself with the Skaven.

>>48255782

So? Otto worked for Archaon. If he sent the Glottkin to the gate with instructions like "yeah do whatever you like" it's obviously his fault.

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>>48255768
Getting really sick of your shit, Nagash.

>>48248477
>9:25
>"GW is flying one of their head, no the head TO. He is flying out from England and he's going to be the TO of the Age of Sigmar event."
So GW now employs TOs? That's news to me.

>>48255797
Actually, Nurgle propositioned Archaon for Ghyran and the right to defend the allgate. Archaon granted this, and Nurgle assigned his greatest champions the Glottkin to defend the Allgate.

He is not their nanny. Archaon told Nurgle to tell the Glottkin that the Everqueen and Stormcast were coming to the Allgate. They were informed and they prepared the defense and gathered their allies.

After that it was out of Archaon's hand and into Nurgle's and the Glottkin's blubbery hands..

>>48254898
>>48254484
14mm.

>>48255739
>Nagash, a master backstabber, is fed up with getting backstabbed
Kek

>>48255841
So what Glottkin fucked up??He lives?

>>48255841

A good general must be a nanny. And if it was Nurgle who propositioned him it's still Archaon's fault for not saying "OK but no rats" since he despises the Horned Rat and knows Nurgle likes to hang out with Pestilens.

>>This thread

More like age of Shitmar amirite

>>48255841
what exactly happened with the skaven, i haven't been able to read Allgates yet

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>>48255874
You do Nagash a great injustice.

I think we need some Nagash PoV.

>>48255946
Among the Chaos Generals leading the defense of the Allgate was a talented Plague Sorcerer who was working on a powerful plague spell. The plague spell happens to be one of the ingredients for one of the Great Skaven Plagues. So the Skaven betrayed their Chaos allies and attacked he sorcerer defensive fort and then captured him. After that was done, most Skaven escaped the battle and returned to Skavenblight with his prize.

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Sylvaneth master race.
Nurgle mad
Nagash jelly

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>>48255949
>reading that in Skeletors voice
These threads have ruined me

>>48255929
What Glottkin did?????

>>48255977
>To you, man-thing, they day the skaven sneak-betrayed you was the most bad-worst day of your life
>But to us, it was Tuesday

>>48255998
That's the only way of reading Nagash's lines.

>>48255931
Archaon knows the Skaven are untrustworthy but he finds them useful and he has used them in the past. In fact, he has Skaven daemons and commanders in his direct employ. Allying with the Skaven is not an inherently a bad idea. It's up for the commander to keep a watchful eye on them. This goes without saying. It's common knowledge. I mean It's Chaos we are talking about. Betrayals are abound.

Otto was overconfident and ignored Edrac's bellyaching about the Skaven coming betrayal. He ignored common sense. Otto's failure is not Archaon's.

>>48255977
Their prize*

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>>48255949
I mean Nagash is clearly the victim here.

His kingdom violated. His properties stolen.

>>48255220
Chaos was always a bunch of losers. They are the powertripping jocks of the Warhammer franchise.

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Have these been leaked? Battleplans from the white dwarf. They're all here, although one is too blurry to read:
http://www.miniwars.eu/2016/07/mas-imagenes-white-dwarf-129.html
(I guess I could repost them into an imgur album, but I don't really see the point.)

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>>48256038
He just wants his rightful due. Nothing more and nothing less.

Others conspire to deny him even that. Chief among them is Sigmar.

>>48255998
>>48256018

I used to read his lines in Sir Christopher Lees voice, these threads have truly ruined whatever intimidation Nagash once had

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>>48256059
Now do you understand why Nagash despises Sigmar so?

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>>48255931
This. A good general must always be on top of everything. Archaon has always been a mediocre general that has just throws stuff at the wall to see what would stick. His first big event in WHFB was him failing to siege a city for a month and then becoming the laughingstock of the setting for several years.

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>>48256079
Nagash has RISEN.

Thieves, betrayers, and usurpers beware!

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>>48256052
>only one single page about the bonesplitterz
WHY
WHY LEAKERS DO THIS

https://seasonofwar.games-workshop.com/

Who else is hyped as hell here?
Im going to my lgs store tomorrow and kick the hell out of everything moving.
Fucking sylvaneth, sigmarines and everything else.
Nurgle had these lands, now its time to get em back from all this faggotry.

>>48255826
>So GW now employs TOs? That's news to me.
Since SCGT they've realised they actually need to help/support tournaments, wouldn't be surprised if it's a new appointment.

>>48256130
>For every game you win, your faction will be awarded a single point.
Cool.
>Likewise, each and every warscroll worth of miniatures you build and paint will earn another point.
Bleh. I can only play 4 games over the month, (games evening is only once a week at the store,) but apparently I can have just as big an impact by buying and painting 2 cheap characters. (If I optimistically assume I would win 50% of my games.)

>>48256171
I really don't get the requirements for "painting a miniature". Do I have to buy it in front of the store manager and then paint it? Its stupid, because otherwise i can just say "i painted all these yesterday" and get like 10 points for free.

>>48255515
anyone?

>>48256130
Anyone wants to bet who is going come out as the winners in this?

>>48256130
I don't think the outcome of this will have any truly meaningful effect on the fluff but it's still a pretty cool campaing.

>Which of the Seeds of Hope cities am I fighting for in my local store?

>If your store is in the USA or Canada, your Battle is for the Living City. On mainland Europe, results will count towards claiming the Phoenicium. If you live in the UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, Asia or in any country not already mentioned, your battleground is the Greywater Fastness.

Pretty neat, means we should be able to see what grand alliance is the most popular in each region.

>>48256130
Also
>If your store is in the USA or Canada, your battle is for the Living City. On mainland Europe, results will count towards claiming the Phoenicium. If you live in the UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, Asia or in any country not already mentioned, your battleground is the Greywater Fastness.
is interesting. I guess that's to stop people pumping their results into certain locations as happened in previous campaigns.

>How will you ensure the results are reported fairly?

>All results are reported, in person, through an official participating store and all results are checked to make sure no mistakes have been made. Obviously, we can’t send an official adjudicator to every one of the thousands of games taking place across the campaign, so it is up to you to report your results honestly. Remember, Sigmar is watching, and takes a dim view on cheaters, who will be struck down with heavenly bolts of Azyr-lightning (probably).

How many of you guys will be eligible to be thinderstruck during this whole campaign

maybe I should strip and repaint all those elves for the good of order then! its a shitty paintjob from nearly 14 years ago, but I have 40k to finish before an early armies on parade for a store anniversary.

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Archaon has led a hard life. We must do whatever it takes to protect his smile.

Everyone join Grand Alliance Chaos and win this campaign for Archaon!

is there already a battlescribe set for the general's handbook?

other question is how much interest would there be in a definition file for armybuilder covering the general's handbook

>>48256185
As far as I heard, you show the receipt for buying them, you show a pic of the fully painted models and then you get a point as if you've won a battle.

>>48256225
I am so infinitely ambivalent as to the outcome that cheating about it wouldn't even occur to me. Hell, my two armies are Sylvaneth and Nurgle, I literally couldn't care less so long as fucking Nagash doesn't win this.

>>48256189
Either Order or Chaos. I highly doubt there's gonna be enough people repping death or destruction. I'd say order is probably slightly more likely to win in most regions. Especially since they're gonna get a lot of points from all the painted Sylvaneth stuff.

>>48256264
Nah, the best option is to just destroy everything, including Chaos.

>>48256327
That's a pretty black & white way of looking at things.

>>48256347
It's why we need a new Chaos god in AoS that wants to destroy Chaos.

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>>48256321
>I literally couldn't care less so long as fucking Nagash doesn't win this.

Woooh. What did the Great Necromancer do to earn your dislike?

Drop a bone in your cereal?

>>48256019

>Otto's failure is not Archaon's.

But it is. And Archaon keeping Skaven around is clearly also a failure as demonstrated by their treachery. Chaos being chaos is not an excuse. How many times have Nurgle forces backstabbed other Nurgle forces? That's right they are actually reliable when Skaven are out.

If Archaon wasn't personally powerful he'd be kicked out of the command chair and if he wasn't dumb he'd leave grand strategyzing to someone cleverer.

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>>48256264
>archaon apologist

I gift you one of my last flying fucks, may it be a reminder that order rocks.

>>48256364
Archaon is literally the muscle Hitler of Age of Sigmar.

>>48256359
Malerion?

>>48256415
Time will tell.

>>48256364

>But it is. And Archaon keeping Skaven around is clearly also a failure as demonstrated by their treachery.

He has no choice in the matter because the Horned Rat was promoted to the Great Horned Rat and was invited in to the Great Pantheon of Chaos by the Three (formerly the Four but now Four again). So Skaven being around is the fault of the upper management. Archaon just has to deal with the reality that the Chaos Gods created when they made the Skaven an official part of the Chaos group.

>How many times have Nurgle forces backstabbed other Nurgle forces?

Plenty. The Call of Archaon has one example and during the chase for the Everqueen there have been a stiff rivalry between various Nurglite leaders over who gets to capture the Everqueen.

The Chaos Gods have been trying for untold thousands of years to send their champions to outsmart or outfight Archaon. All ended in failure. Archaon is as good as it gets and he is more than than the forces of Order can handle.

>>48256360
Because the God of DEATH who, by the way, is apparently either too dumb or too arrogant to even take care of his own realm, shouldn't be entrusted with the realm of LIFE. If anything, the two Gods of Life, Nurgle and Alarielle should duke it out.

>>48256321
>As far as I heard, you show the receipt for buying them, you show a pic of the fully painted models
that makes sense.
Also,
plz make chaos win
cast out the invasors
These lands are Nurgle's!

>>48256541
You write Nurgle, but i here GW whispers in my ears "Blood For The Blood God"...

>>48256572
I'm okay with that.
I just want these cities burned to th ground.

>>48256541
>unironically wanting chaos to win
wow, its like you want to give other people a reason to keep bitching about GWs chaos wank

>>48256449
The skaven still being relevant is the fault of the other 3, how could they be retarded enough to let him join the pantheon? the whole point of getting rid of slaanesh was to have one less player in the game, and because they feared slaanesh would surpass them all one day since he technically embodies all of them in some way. So they finally shake up the status quo in the great game in a meaningful way, and then let a usurper who is clearly only out for himself into their ranks? the chaos gods deserve to lose for this level of stupidity.

>>48256608
>wow, its like you want to give other people a reason to keep bitching about GWs chaos wank
better than sigmarines wank.

>>48256613
There was Sigmarine wank for what, the intro to the setting? ever since then they've either lost horribly, barely won, or had to rely on allies to get anything done.

By the way. Is Korghos Khull still alive? or was killed in the last realmgate book?
Im thinking who'll control Khornate Dragon that is in FW WIP.

>>48256608
The Chaos gods has never been a source of good judgement. They don't think in ways that either makes sense or resemble the way we think. Their thoughtprocess is literally chaos. That's why they needed some random asshole like Archaon to begin with. He is someone that could think in practical and linear ways.

If they could make logical plans and executions they would just walk over everything all the time.

>>48256608
>The skaven still being relevant is the fault of the other 3, how could they be retarded enough to let him join the pantheon? the whole point of getting rid of slaanesh was to have one less player in the game, and because they feared slaanesh would surpass them all one day since he technically embodies all of them in some way. So they finally shake up the status quo in the great game in a meaningful way, and then let a usurper who is clearly only out for himself into their ranks? the chaos gods deserve to lose for this level of stupidity.

The fluff says that the Three view Great Horned Rat as a weakling lesser who is not their equal in any way. He uses their disregard for him to plot behind their backs for next stage of Ascendancy.

Anyways, I just remembered something. The reason Skaven are all over Ghyran is because Nurgle allied himself with the Great Horned Rat. Forming an uneasy alliance between their both armies in order to spread disease and entropy over Ghyran and all other realms.

Archaon conquered Ghyran and handed it to Nurgle to run and manage. When Nurgle invited the rats inside and put them in key positions, then it's his fault and not Archaon's.

>>48256657
>By the way. Is Korghos Khull still alive? or was killed in the last realmgate book?

Unknown. Ignax burned the whole continent in fire. A lot of Chaos dudes died.

However, Khul survived an Azyrite nuke. He might survive this also.

>>48256481
But they are all false gods. Nagash is the one true god.

All other "gods" are but shadows of Great Nagash. All belong to Nagas and Nagash is all.

>>48256726
Arkhan spotted.

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Trying to grab some daemons off ebay to mix into my mortal khorne list. Anyone have experience with auction sniping apps/extensions? If it costs a couple bucks to save 50+ % off of retail, might be worth it...

Where are the missions located? TGH? Any pics?

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>>48255220
Who could have possibly seen this coming?

Can Bretonnians be used in the Global Campaign?

https://seasonofwar.games-workshop.com/

>>48256807
Yes.

>>48256814
Neato.

>>48256813
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26vW-1O4I9Y

Trailer

>>48256807
Won't be able to score points from collecting and painting though.

>>48256829
That doesn't bother me, I just want to play some games and earn some points that way.

>Used to have to travel 2 hours to my local store.
>A new one opens 10 minutes away.

I'm hyped.

Has someone checked the scrollbuilder bloodbound section? I tried to find lord of khorne on juggernaut/demonsteed but couldn't find it. I suppose he's still part of bloodbound?

Can someone tell me the point of having an ability that lets you pile in 6"? For instance, the Chaos Lord on Manticore can do so if it takes Khorne. But, if you're already in combat (and therefore within 3" of an enemy) and have to pile in towards the nearest model, what does that extra distance do for you?

>>48256858
I haven't come across it in any games, but my first assumption is that it just doubles the range at which you're considered "in combat" and can pile in.

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Got the german WD once again. Here's the bonesplinterz stuff from it.
Boarboys have spears and shields, Boarboy Maniaks have dual choppas.

>>48256894
It doesn't. You still need to be within 3" to count as being in combat.
It's a good ability for large units to have, but worthless on monsters and heroes unless coupled with a skill that allows you to ignore the nearest-model rule (like the prince on griffon).

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Savage Orruks - spears and shields
Arrow Bays - bows
Morboys - two close-combat weapons
Big Stabbas are their own unit.

>>48256326
>tfw I've won every game this week with my Ironjawz but we're still losing
It's just not enough lads, too many people walking in and buying Sigmarines, too many people buying all the new Sylvaneth shit.

>>48256943
>>48256924
>>48256895
naked orcs a best orcs

>>48256895
>>48256924
>>48256943
These models look so much better on round bases, it's crazy how a small change can make such a big difference

>>48256924
Aren't these just repackaged old figures?

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Bonesplitters are the result of Gorkamorka entering the head of an orruk and refusing to leave afterwards.
The battletome contains artifacts, command traits, allegiance boni and unique spells on top of 9 batallions (three of which are the Warclans, this book's equivalent to the Sylvaneth's wargroves).

>>48256954
Yes, with some parts being swapped like heads and weapons

They did the same thing with Seraphon and Flesheater Courts

>>48256189
Almost certainly not Death - we're unfortunately underrepresented.

I blame the fact we have an incompetent buffoon for a faction leader.

>>48256966
Then why the big showcase if the only thing that is new are the rules?

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>>48256973
>not loving supreme lord of death, Skeletor

>>48256978
To show things off to people who may wish to buy them?

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>>48256943
/r/equesting a translation of the dok's introductory fluff

>>48256978
They did the same thing with the Seraphon and Flesheater Courts

White Dwarf is an advertisement. Advertisements are meant to make people want to buy things.

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Presenting in teeny-tine eye-strain'o'vision: Bonesplitterz allegiance boni and general traits.

Allegiance bonus for Bonesplitterz
>Warpaint
Save rolls of 6 (before any modifiers) are always successful, regardless of other special rules. In addition, if you suffer a mortal wound, roll a d6. On a 6+ you can ignore the mortal wound.
>Monster Hunter
After killing a Monster in melee, the responsible unit does not have to take battleshock tests until your next hero phase. In addition, roll a d6 for every unit before piling in if there's a Monster within 3" of that unit. Consult the following chart:
1-2 The unit can pile in up to 6".
3-4 The unit can reroll failed to wound rolls when attacking Monsters.
5-6 Each wound roll of 6 causes a Mortal Wound in addition to all other damage when attacking a Monster.

General Traits for Bonesplitterz
>Weird Warpaint
The general ignores mortal wounds on a 4+
>Prophet of Waagh
all Bonesplitterz can reroll failed battleshock tests
>Big Hunter
If the general kills a Monster he can immideatly pile in and attack again
>Killa Instincts
Your general's wound rollls of 6 give the weapon Rend -3.
>Waagh Hero
Bonesplitterz within 10" add +1 to their charge rolls.
>Monstrosity
The general may pick his results on the Monster Hunter chart.

>>48257036
Finally a non-Tomb Kings faction that can deal with the seraphon monster spam

>>48257036
So now the Bonesplitterz units only have their warpaint rule when they're taken in a bonesplitterz allegiance? Well fuck me that and the fact that the morboys are the dual-wielding ones screws with most of the ideas I had for potentially mixing the new bonesplitterz stuff with my other destruction forces.

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>Teef Rukk
2-5 Big Stabbaz
During your hero phase, pick an enemy Monster. All Big Stabbaz in this formation may instantly pile in up to 6" and attack as if it was the melee phase. This does not limit their ability to attack again during the melee phase.

>Bonegrinz Warclan
Big many boyz: Whenever a unit of Savage Orruks, Savage Arrowboys or Big Stabbaz is completly wiped out for any reason, roll a d6. On a 6 you immideatly set up that unit within 6" of any table edge and at least9" away from any enemy.
>Beastslayers
Add+1 to the Bravery of all Bonesplitterz the first time a Monster is killed during the battle.
>New General Trait
"Bring it down, boyz!" The general and all Bonesplitterz within 12" may always choose their result on the Monster Hunter chart.

1000 points sylvaneth

>durthu with +1 armor and ignore -1 rend
>drycha
>the new wraith
>10 dryads
>10 dryads

could it work out? I don't have anything else sadly.... for 1500 points i'd buy 3 units of kurnoth hunters and remove the wraith

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hey Sigfags, i am new here... ima 40gay refugee.. loving AoS so far, but the one thing ive noticed is... Sigmarines are boring. I mean they look cool and all but in the fluff do they even have personalities or are they just organic robots??

Also, where does chaos recruit soldiers?

>>48257140
i thought that durthu cant equip artefacts because he is a named character

>>48257165
They explained a bit of Bloodbound recruitment, which basically comes down to their victims joining into the carnage to join the warbands.

>>48257165
>dat image

What are you, Australian?

>>48257165
sigmarines have a lot of personality in all the books so far

chaos recruits from mortals living in the realms.

there was a story where stormcast visit a chaos-worshipping village and they ask the villagers why they worship chaos instead of sigmar, and they reply along the lines of "we prayed to sigmar for generations but never got a response. we worship the dark gods because we need their strength to survive"

Okay, so how many models are likely in a 1000 and 2000 point game? Just spitballing.

>>48257198
and so Sigmarines are just plucked out of their homes by Sigmar and sent to celestial boot camp or what?

>>48256997
The Wardokks are the crazy Advisoers and Heralds of the great Wurrzog Prphets
Any great leader needs lieutnants and for the Wurrgog Prophets the Wardokks fulfil that duty. These frothing acolytes lead mobs of Morboys and conduct rituals to channel the great Waagh spirit in order to strengthen the Wurrgog Prphets. Since it's not a rare occurence for the prophets to explode violently from an overdose of Waagh, the Wardokk are eager to take their place.

>>48257211
Depends on the faction.

My experience has been that 1000pt is more of a skirmish with 4-6 units on each side.

2000pt is more like 8-12 units per side, enabling more combos and giving the game more strategic depth

>>48257209
oh wow, thats neat. how come all the models have helmets?? its like we cant see your faces on purpose

>>48257184
The rules never actually give any clarification what counts as 'named characters', besides that Alarielle, Nagash and Archaon are ones.
The new spirit of durthu doesn't have the 'can only have one per army' limit so most people think he doesn't count as a named character.

>>48257220
Sigmarines are each great heroes taken just before their heroic deaths and spirited away to Azyr for the Reforging. Otherwise the comparison is actually kinda apt, since there's this enormous arena in Azyrheim where the Stormcast train relentlessly.

>>48257165
>do they even have personalities

Yes.

>Also, where does chaos recruit soldiers?

The peoples of the multiverse, or daemons being felt into being.

Anon with german WD, can you confirm that there no new book from BL in it, please?

>>48257236
Stormcast wear helmets in the image of Sigmar for two main reasons:

1. To inspire other mortal races with the glorious image of the god king
2. It is unnerving as fuck for Chaos to fight an enemy that shows no emotion.

>>48257240
Durthu with artefacts is blatantly overpowered. He is already the best melee fighter in the game, he doesn't need more attacks/rend.

>>48257234

>Depends on the faction

Well yeah, but that's always gonna be the case.

Assuming not an extreme horde faction nor intentionally trying to minimise model count, basically. A rough estimate.

>>48257236
>its like we cant see your faces on purpose
Because we can't see their faces on purpose. The idea is that the masks represent the different aspects of Sigmar. On top of that, the expressionless nature and their fighting style apparently tends to freak out foloowers of chaos on account of being very eerie.

>>48257254

Given that Chaos are experienced with all kinds of horror, that'd pretty clearly have the opposite effect. Chaos not giving a fuck, and their own allies unnerved by faceless statue men.

Squad of Revenants and a Treelord ancient or Spirit of Durthu?
Can't decide the rest of my 2k list
-- Sylvaneth --
>Leader
Treelord Ancient: Regrowth - 300

>Battleline
20x Dryads - 240
20x Dryads - 240
5x Tree Revenants - 100

>Behemoth

>Other
3x Kurnoth Hunters with Bows - 180
3x Kurnoth Hunters with Bows - 180
3x Kurnoth Hunters with Scythes - 180
3x Kurnoth Hunters with Scythes - 180
--1600/2000 points

>>48256986
Skeletor was a mistake.

>>48257261
I play Seraphon and my typical 1000pt list looks like this:

20 Saurus Warriors (200)
2 heroes (~220)
1-2 monsters
Extra

>>48257273
Chaos thrives in the extremes of emotion. All 4 chaos gods are fueled by mortal emotion taken to extremes.

A berserker is thrilled to see either terror or resolve in the face of the foe they are charging... but a stormcast does not show anything. They are a tide of mini Sigmars that are not only holding their ground, but also pushing back.

>>48257300
>but a stormcast does not show anything.

This is clearly wrong. Stormcast masks show they are stern and the Stormcast themselves are very emotional.

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>>48257250
No BL stuff.
The new stuff is:
- Bonesplitters models
- Bonesplitter battletome
- How to Paint: Ironjaws
- Storm of Sigmar mini starter
- Age of Sigmar Beginner's Guide
- General's Handbook
- Easy to Build kits (pictured; convenient way to get those starter-kit retributors to min size)

So with point costs out in the wild, do you guys feel like it's improved the game or do you prefer to just ignore them

>>48257279
Drycha and a squad of Spite Revenants?
Otherwise, can't go wrong with a Spirit of Durthu.

>>48257333

Thank you very much for confirmation!

>>48257356
It's a significant improvement, since it speeds up the pre-game discussion and does away with most of the rather wonky methods of balance commonly used, i.e. counting wounds or warscrolls).
But I've been in the 'The game needs a point system and fast' camp since the beginning, so I might be biased.

>>48257356
The game was always pretty good but the only problem was getting roughly even matches. We used to spend 30+ minutes before each game deciding on what to use, what my opponent is using, and which battleplan we wanted to play.

The point system cuts that time down tremendously. I can build a list ahead of time and make slight modifications when necessary.

It makes games a lot easier to organize and it makes the game easier to play with random people.

Overall a big improvement.

>>48257358
My 2500 point list has both - but in the rare case i'll play 2k i wondered what would be better
I'm also avoiding any named Heroes

I will also have at least 3 Wyldwoods with my lists
-- It Ain't Me --
>Formation
Heartwood Wargrove - 100

>Leader
Treelord Ancient: Warsong Stave, Regrowth - 300

>Battleline
20x Dryads - 240
20x Dryads - 240
5x Tree Revenants - 100
5x Tree Revenants - 100

>Behemoth
Spirit of Durthu: Briarsheath - 400
Treelord Ancient: Circlet, Reaping - 300

>Other
3x Kurnoth Hunters with Bows - 180
3x Kurnoth Hunters with Bows - 180
3x Kurnoth Hunters with Scythes - 180
3x Kurnoth Hunters with Scythes - 180
--2500 points

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>>48257254

>>48257356
I think it's a significant improvement, but I play at a GW for the most part and have only been able to play a few casual games on kitchen tables since the leaks came out. Was way faster to start, and there were none of those moments where, despite half an hour of negotiations, you accidentally started an imbalanced game.

My Ironjawz are pretty well costed, too, and for once I'm not using my Krusha Boss every game. It's nice.

>>48254732
>>The All Gate in Chamon was defended successfully
>The Nine Gaunt Summoners are plotting against Archaon behind his back. They are going to pull something big soon
Tzeentch keeps being the Best god I see

>>48257494
And has the best models too.

>>48257254
>not skarbrand

>>48257221
Thanks, to be honest I was expecting something more in line with 40k painboys than generic lesser priests

>>48256986
The only good thing about Skeletor is that he is a knockoff of the classic Robert E. Howard character Thulsa Doom.

>>48257781
Also, Skeletor was, and obviously had, great fun over the course of the series.
Nagash on the other hand is a joyless, incompetent diva.

>>48255850
Awesome this is exactly what I needed to know. I really appreciate the help :)

>>48257975
Yeah, he is basically a non fun version of Eric Cartman.

I started AOS a while ago thinking I wanted to do mainly skeletons with some other death mixed in for support. My Army is now 6 spirit hosts, 10 hex wraiths, 10 skeletons, 20 zombies, a mortis engine, a cairn wraith and a white king. Anyone know if there's a way to make this viable competitively, I'm thinking of either clearing the zombies and grabbing some grave guard or clearing the skeletons and just grabbing a load of zombies and a corpse cart.

>>48257333
Does it say how many minis are included in each easy to build kit?

>>48258481
If you want to do skeletons, go with the skeletons and clear the zombies?

>>48258566
- 1 Liberator Prime and 2 Liberators, all with shields and hammers
- 1 Retributor Prime and 1 Retributor
- 1 Blood Warrior hampion and 2 Blood Warriors, all with Goreaxes and Gorefists
- 1 Bloodreaver Chieftain and 4 Bloodreavers.

>>48257236
>>48254790
That's kind of understating it. A general with a hammer will almost double the damage of a star drake celestant without outside buffs.

-2 Rend D6 Damage hurts

>>48258481
Grab a necro. You can summon the cairn wraith without it taking a hero slot. Summoning hosts and hexwraiths works fine too, they don't need to start as big units. Neither do zombies and they can combine which is useful - you can do aight with 40 as a base. Skellys are cool too, but can't combine - maybe a unit of 20-30 can be useful to you or two units of 20 if you go that route. Graveguard are highly recommended, especially with wight king necro and corpse cart.

Cairn wraith will do some good killing using skellys and zombies as wound protection. Your spirit hosts do pretty good output too. A necro would also get some nice bonuses from mortis and cart, in one cast you might be putting down 20 zombies fairly easily. Gg are really solid, your main killers I think, but do best starting out as a unit of 20 or more, summoning a few here and there isn't as useful as say a cairn wraith.

So necro to summon and van hels your gg into kill mode, all your other stuff is pretty autonomous, mortis will need support, zombies are good meat shields - later on you might use 60-80. Wight king is great with skellys and gg, go necro 20 zombies 20 gg and go from there, and another 10 skellys if you want and see how you like how the elements play.

will anyone care if I use my empire cannon as an ironweld cannon? It'll be weird having the Duardin keyword on humans but maybe they were raised amongst dwarves...

>>48259189
>>48258481
And I don't mean to talk you out of skellys. They rock. The zombie models kind of suck but I convert using random stuff.. Ghoul and skaven arms.. maruder weapons.. Bloodreaver and cultists bodies, bret footmen...etc

I'm a big fan of skellies but 20-50 graveguard are pretty solid with some wightkings ( as far as spooky presence and strength) and if I didn't convert zombies I would go bare bones as personal pref.

Currently sitting on more than 60 unbuilt base skellys.

>>48259268
Put the knife to them and greenstuff some beards.

Dwarfs on a diet.

>>48259290


That or I should be able to scrounge up at least one dorf to be leading this human work crew

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>warrior priests can only buff themselves or flagellants