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>>48246301
>Equipment edition
How's this?

>>48246438
I like this a lot

>>48246539
>implying i dont try to argue about as much overpoweredness as i can

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Two mythics from my Ravnica custom set. One anon suggested to change Ariadra by giving the enemy creature reach instead of flying which I think is cool.

>>48247147
that was me.
Just seems cleaner. Hope you do it, i love the card.

>>48247239
Yup I will tomorrow. :)

>>48247307
I love it anon. 10/10
Perhaps give it a person's name, like "Fligraf's Quick Draw", makes it a little more personal and epic

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>>48246379
Make it check for token status, otherwise you've made an infinite loop.
That aside, it's pretty weak. You have a +2/+2 for two creatures for 8 mana.

Any ideas on how to cut down the wording for this? I'm still not sure on the use of proper names and pronouns for card effects.

>>48248568
Counters are put not placed and you can use a legendary creatures first name after the first instance. @ is the MSE code for it.

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>>48249021

>>48249051
Having had a look, it would be placed in the first instance and put in the second.

>>48248953

I like it but it relies on other cards to be good rather than being able to carry its own weight. You might want to buff it up to a 3/3 or 2/3 at least so that it is not completely embarrassing when you don't want to sac a creature and there are no targets for his second ability.

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>>48218958
>>48240896
I think I improvised a little on the wording.

Rolled 43 (1d123)

>>48218958

>>48249513

Terrible. My advice here is to toss the idea in the trash and do something else.

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Blergh. Trying to make this and Angelus mirrored cards. Angelus is the same setup, but with Flying and Lifelink, the trigger changed for when you gain life, and the activated ability hits artifacts and enchantments.

>>48246301
>http://digital-art-gallery.com/
its a deadend website, dont use this one anymore

>>48250817
Shit. That sucks. I really liked that site.

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>>48246301
I thought of doing a card that literally has a WTF moment effect on the entire game, its cheese as fuck, but the manacost is there for it

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>>48244379
>>48244425
I saw these posts right before I went to work and didn't have time to respond. Just wanted to let you know I'm still here! I put the set on hold when Kaladesh was announced, on the off-chance they print Riggers/Contraptions and the whole set is rendered moot. I still post some random ideas and such, and I have a soft spot for this set, but I don't want to go to all the trouble of building and balancing the set just to have it made pointless.

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I'm alive, and I'm making cards. Just very slowly. First rough draft of white commons for this set.

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Because why not? This is supposed to show what Tazri became during "The Blight We Were Born For" which is a pretty good story. Basically, she witnesses a universe where Zendikar falls, and she is turned into an Eldrazi.

>>48251038
It's OK to say "your hand" in this case, since the Equipment comes from your hand. Obviously it's going to be returned to you.

>>48251035
I think for Unstable, you could shorten it more by saying
(This enters the battlefield with X maintenance counters on it. Whenever it's dealt combat damage, remove a maintenance counter from it. When the last is removed, sacrifice it.)
Since it's only going to be dealt combat damage by creatures anyway. I'm also not a fan of "maintenance" but I can't really think of a substitute. Unless you want it to interact with charge counters stuff.

>>48250329
Should probably return to hand, compare to Razor Boomerang

>>48251035
I think Gift of Groves would be better if it was any artifact instead of just opponents. I get that you're going for artifact hate there, but it would allow for some neat mixing.

>>48251119
Does the ambush haste matter on other cards, because as shown here it's irrelevant and makes the reminder text extra wordy.
Also, the phrasing may be technically correct, but "during combat" into "any time" just seems like horrible english.

>>48251268
>comparing to one of the worst cards printed
It's fine. It even costs more to equip. If anything, compare it to Surestrike Trident.

>>48251353
Caught would need Fuse on it as well, and you messed up the Fuse naming scheme. Fuse cards are supposed to be X and Y, not X Y.

Flesh and Blood, Far and Away, that sort of thing.

Outside of that, Caught seems rather strong, and Flatfooted is either insane or pointless. If you meant lose permanently, then that's a headache and also quite powerful. If you meant until end of turn, then Vigilance is pointless on that list if it's a sorcery.

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>>48251333
>Does the ambush haste matter on other cards, because as shown here it's irrelevant and makes the reminder text extra wordy.
You can flash them in at the beginning of combat and have a hasty attacker.

>card
Absolutely haram tapping equipment.

>>48251035
I like what you did with contraptions. It fits the theme, making these huge, complicated machines that each do a dozen things.

>>48251379
Razor Boomerang also actually sees play where Surestrike Trident doesn't.

But sure, let's have an almost lightning helix on a stick.

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>>48251440
Hope you don't mind. Saw the art and had an idea.

>>48251622
>Razor Boomerang also actually sees play where Surestrike Trident doesn't.
Not him, but I'd like to see proof that Razor Boomerang gets played anywhere.

>>48249540
First strike is enough.

>>48251750
You can get a first-strike lord for 1WW, no strings attached. If not equip 0, it needs something else to reward having to jump through multiple hoops.

>>48247147
Why don't you use colors on your set symbol?

>>48251851
I believe he doesn't like using rarity because he doesn't care about draft.

>>48251718
It certainly isn't a common card, but it gets used as a one of in certain combo decks as a back up win con.

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First draft. It's another card designed specifically to work with another card, in this case, a creature with Deathstrike.

>>48251957
I'd still like to see that proof.

>>48252006
Technically, it's the creature that's doing the exiling, not the sword.

>>48252006
According to MTGTop8, it has never seen play at any competitive tournament and EDHRec has a grand total of three decks that have been submitted that include it, one of which is called "Black Strictly Worse EDH".

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Good? Bad? The idea is to catch a spell in the hat, which you can pull out later. But whenever you put something in, some rabbits come out too. Probably need to balance better.

>>48252341
Damnit. It was obviously worded differently before. Thanks for pointing that out.

>>48252382
I ran it in my Nahiri EDH deck once. I removed it after I won the game with it. I still keep it in my trade binder as a reminder.

>>48252382
I looked at the other decks on EDHRec. One is a pinger deck designed to work with Deathtouch, the other is a deliberate attempt at making a very low-power deck.

>>48252546
Is it a claw of progress?
>Evolve
This isn't Ravnica.

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Which is better? For context, it's part of a cycle in which each creature has a method of gaining and losing -1/-1 counters. I think the one on the right fits that cycle more, but I think the one on the left is more explosive and thus conveys the flavor of an elemental that can burn out or burst into flames in a moment's notice better.

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Note: This would be the only instance of erosion counters in the set it's in.

>>48252618
Left because it's simpler, but it'll be the odd one out of your cycle. Both are very pushed.

>>48252652
This is just Szadek.

>>48252709
They are pretty pushed. How much p/t should I take off? I'm thinking one toughness from the left so it can only attack/block twice without prowess triggers, but even then it might be too good..

>>48252618
I think the right one is better. I don't the Shifting Blaze really fits the idea of an elemental that could burst or explode. This encourages it to act more like a flickering flame, slowly growing larger or smaller, but not really burning out.

Either way, the stats on that still seem quite strong. A 4/3 for 3 with Haste is great, even if it's going to slowly weaken afterwards. If they cast a couple spells though, it'll stay at that level for a while. Even then, a 4/3 and 3/2 swinging isn't bad at all. I would say to either lower the power or toughness by 1.

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What could possibly go wrong, especially when it can copy itself? I might need to change that part. Another idea I had was that it could clone anything, but it had charge counters on it. Whenever it became the target of a spell or ability, you'd remove a charge counter from it, and if you couldn't, you'd return it to its owner's hand.

So wither is only available in BRG, but infect is available in all colors (though tertiary in W and R). Is there a reason for this, or could wither be stretched to all colors outside of a colorshifted set?

>>48253256
I think the lore reason was that white and red were the only colors that could half-fight it. Everything else succumbed easier.

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>>48253256
Technically, there are two cards that have Wither that don't require BRG, but they are both hybrid, so make of that what you will. Anyway, with Infest it's different, because the entire point of the Scars block was to show how corrupting Phyrexia's influence was by spreading Black mechanics throughout the other colors. So you should always take those cards with a grain of salt. For me, as long as you can justify it, I have no problem with it. Though I will admit that justifying it in Blue and White is a bit of an issue.

>>48253294
Yeah, BG fell first with Scars, U afterwards with Besieged, and RW with Phyrexia. Clever storytelling I think, to show how the Mirran resistance weakens throughout the block, and how Phyrexia becomes stronger.

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PEPE TRIBAL WHEN

>>48253308
So how could wither fit in thematically in white and blue? What exactly is it in the lore?

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Random one-off keyword, ho!

>>48253654
If an effect is multipart, the replacement current templating tends to put the "if" and the "instead" in front of it. See something like From Under the Floorboards for an example.

So the text should go more like:
>Armament -- If you control an equipped creature, Warrior's Helix instead deals 4 damage to that creature and you gain 4 life.

>>48251119
>CW01 & CW02
I am not sure you want to do this with Ritual; it becomes confusing as to why it's an ability word. Tapping may be what all ritual cards have in common, but altering the frequency and nature of the tap dilutes the flavor, which is what ability words are there to provide. I'd personally just make them all function like Priestess of Osari, and have the player choose whether to make the card ETB tapped or not to get a triggered ability for a low cost. I think it would play the best and be the easiest to design around and understand.

Also gonna need the art for CW01; it's gorgeous.
>CW03
I think making it trigger on a permanent ETBing that has a CMC of 5 or more makes it easier to understand personally. Other than that, card seems fine to me.
>CW04
Hm. Ambush seems okay; a stretch for white but white likes combat tricks so I can see the fudging of Haste in this case. I would assume it will be showing up in Naya colors? Or is it 5 color? Or everything but blue? One thing I am not sure I like is the wording on the ETB ability; it reads clunky. I'd rather it just grant first strike when it ETBs and be priced accordingly. It'd probably have to be an uncommon though, at that rate.
>CW05
Much cleaner ETB trigger. Works well with Ambush. Cost seems fine for the effect and the body.
>CW06
Too good. It's a phenomenal blocker that will gain you lots of life easily. Not common material, and too cheap for what it does to boot.
>CW07
I'm growing concerned at the number of fat asses among these commons. This may slow down Limited significantly.
>CW08
Neat, but of middling utility without flash. I had a similar issue with a card I did for my madness set.
>CW09
Appropriating Escalate is a good call here, considering your theme, and now I see why you worded CW03 as you did. I guess it can't be helped then. Card seems fine.
>CW10
I like your use of the CMC 5 thing here, but I am afraid being as efficient as it is, it should probably be uncommon.

(cont.)

>>48254011
>CW11
Not too keen on Ambush on noncreature stuff. Taxed removal in white works for me though.
>CW12
Enemy color set? Hm. Didn't see that coming. I tried the same for my desert set, so I hope you have better luck than I did. I may go back to it one day. I do still like the idea, I just couldn't get the mechanics to smooth out. Anyway, the card seems fine.
>CW13
I wouldn't do a blanket tax Aura at common if I were you. Not even at a high cost. It's just no fun. It also enables opponents' "CMC5" stuff, but you probably intended that.
>CW14
This tax, on the other hand, is much more palatable. Not sure on the cost though; the first ability is only so-so, and the second is very very good.

All in all, not bad. I look forward to seeing more. And again, good luck with the desert thing. I hope the scenery change helps you make the set work better.

>>48251440
>tapping equipment
My nigga. The concept here didn't sink in right away, but I get it now, and I'm not sure what I think of it, especially at common.

>>48251620
I always like it when someone makes an ante card. Takes me back to high school. I knew people that refused to play anyone who wouldn't play for ante.

>>48251924
Hm. It's specific enough that it might be okay that cheap, but it'd depend on the set it's in. Hard to judge in a vacuum, but I think it'd cause hell in Modern.

>>48252484
Kek. I like it but I can't even begin to comment on cost. Repeatable counters are always strong, and since most playable cards are on the cheap side, favoring CMC3 or less, this costing 4 probably makes it okay, though ramp could cause issues with that. The drawback probably makes it alright though, in the end.

>>48252546
>evolve reminder text
>no living weapon reminder text
What an odd design choice to make.

>>48252769
This would be very VERY good in Limited. I like it but I like the old Mirrodin "insta-equip" cards. Too bad Cranial Plating was broken to high hell.

>>48253027
I think it's "it has" not "it gains" but I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first or last time. Otherwise, I like it. Bretty good. 8/10 Mysterio card.

>>48253393
It's the glistening oil or whatever it's called. The stuff that causes.. sorry if I misspell this... phyresis? Creatures touched by it become plague carriers, essentially.

>>48253630
Glorious. I love it.

>>48253648
This is pretty good. Not sure on the rarity.

>>48253654
Agree with what the other anon said, but wording aside, I like it. Choosing "equipped matters" over "equipment matters" is a good idea, I think.

>>48254178
>What an odd design choice to make.
I figured living weapon only matters once whereas evolve can trigger multiple times. And then I got the reminder text wrong anyways.

>>48254326
I guess I just figured that Living Weapon would be the less likely of the two to be "remembered" since it's a bit more complex than Evolve, and older to boot, but most of us know what both of them do so around here, it doesn't matter too much anyway.

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>>48253339
The land is way too strong. Make it come in tapped, take off the first ability.
Master Pepe probably needs blue. Bloodruin should be blue instead of black.
One day I will actually put together the random 4chan un-set I've got kicking around in my head.

>>48255380
Blades of Berserker has some memory issues. Either use a unique counter, or a blanket effect.

Doomhammer also lets you double the equipped creature's power every time it attacks as it triggers on declare attackers phase. Not sure if you intended that.

>>48249726
Human Horror or Human Demon would work better, I think, as mean as Jackie is with guns. Trample and Haste aren't typically black; Maybe make him have Deathtouch and Persist instead?

Exploring the Resonate mechanic a bit. How is this? Useless? Overpowered?

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>>48255599
and of course i forget the image

>>48255607
>hard counter for 1U
>no restrictions or drawbacks
Well, I can tell you from experience that this is overpowered.

>>48255626
Fair point. Costed up to 1UU.

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Pseudo-wrath.
I really wanted to give it to green, but it just makes more sense as red.

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meme cards

>>48252564
Doesn't meant he cannot use the Keyword.

>>48255909
Noice.

>>48255909
Would draft.

>>48255718
Fight doesn't work with more than two creatures in a fight, just write in out long form.

>>48254178
>Hat
Good point with the CMC of spells. I have another version that gave the spells back afterwards, which I think I might use over this one.

>>48254243
>Mysterio
Cool, thanks. And yeah, the wording's a little tricky, and I was too tired when I was making it to find good precedence.

>>48255489
Yeah, I was thinking of making him a Human Demon and Angelus a Human Angel. Trample and Haste both work in Black, but they're not really together by themselves in Black, true. Maybe Deathtouch, but I'm definitely not using Persist, sorry. Not a fan of mixing P/T counters.

>>48255922
Well no, but it's just kinda odd to me.

>>48255909
I thought I was the one doing the western set.

>>48255909
Cycle when? I can see the Red aim counter card having this as it's third effect:

>When ~ leaves the battlefield, it deals X damage to all creatures with aim counters on them, where X is the number of aim counters on all creatures.

Maybe call it something like Trick Shot.

>>48255909
Make it when it's put into a graveyard or when it's sacrificed. Right now it's open to shenanigans with returning it to your hand.

>>48255909
I really think you should make more of these. I even had an idea for an equipment based on aim counters:

>T:Sacrifice ~, put an aim counter on target creature.

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Is this card too wordy? Is it any good at all?

>>48259765
>>48258778
No one? Not even the anon that came up with High Noon likes these suggestions?

>>48261058
The gold cards sounds too Eldrazi like for my tastes, buts that's just a matter of flavor.

Also the spider legendary should have a +1 on toughness, so that it can not be screwed if the spiders go away.

>>48261434
The spider one is a spider itself, so it'll always have 1 toughness unless you do something weird like erase its type.

>>48261197
Creator anon here, it was more of a one-of card for a Overwatch thing but I do like the idea of incorporating aim counters into more things.

>>48261857
Thanks.

>>48261857
You know aim counters could work well as a mechanic in a Fallout/Mad Max/other post apoc-type set. Here's an example I threw together just now.

>Boom Spear

>Artifact - Equipment

>Equipped creature gets +1/+0 and has first strike.

>T: Sacrifice ~, it deals 3 damage to a creature with an aim counter on it.

>Equip 2

Apart from the fact I'm not sure on the mana cost or equip cost, this looks rather good, right?

>>48262152
Might be a tad parasitic without a way to put aim counters by itself.

>>48262308
It should be fine as a one-of if aim counters are a keyworded mechanic. Otherwise I agree with this.

>>48262308
That's why I added something that lets you swing with it if you don't have the option of bolting a creature.

It's also why I came up with the Trace Bullet, which you can sac to put an aim counter on something.

The idea being that Bullets are one drops that can be equipped for free and have a specific effect on a creature when sac-tapped, most of the time this effect will tie into aim counters, but generally the aim counter trigger will come second (flavorwise it goes something like this: When you are using some form of projectile weapon, it's generally more effective if you hit the thing you were aiming at.) So a bullet might do 1 damage to a creature when sac-tapped normally, but it would do 2-3 damage to a creature with an aim counter on it. It doesn't do as much damage when you aren't aiming, but it's not completely worthless.

>>48262553
...At least, that's how I would use them with Artifacts, other permanents, Instants and Sorceries would be a different matter entirely.

>>48262589
I mean you could have a Sorcery that let you sac a nontoken creature to vindicate something with an aim counter on it. 'Why Sorcery speed?' I hear you ask, well, the guy would need time to spray his teeth chrome, wouldn't he?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS2Oliv7p3w

>>48254243
I meant what's wither? I already knew infect was the oil's corruption.

>>48263073
Wither for BG is venoms, poisons, toxins. B additionally gets it as a sort of corruptive influence. R gets it as severe burns, wounds that will not heal, etc. Really anything that says "This is going to hurt for a very long time." Also remember that magic exists. Just make it a curse or something.

>>48263493
he meant how do you justify wither in white and blue

>>48263493
Oh alright, that's simpler than I thought.

>>48263499
"Whenever an Equipment is put into your graveyard from the battlefield..."

>>48263519
No, I was asking what it was exactly. I'll go from there to try and justify it, though. I may just go with something else entirely.

>>48263548
How new are you to magic? You talk about wither and phyresis like someone who heard stories about them from their grandfather. I mean that in the nicest way possible.

>>48263579
Original Innistrad block.

>>48263579
>You talk about wither and phyresis like someone who heard stories about them from their grandfather.
I wanna see old and grumpy grandpa Koth tell his kids about how he fought against the Phyrexians. I also want Elpseth to come back so she can do it to.

>>48247307
>I have this art on a custom card
>Its also white and a rare

I guess I should delete my ccg folder now...

>>48264205
Why? Dude, it's fine. With enough variables, strange things will happen. People tend to gravitate towards similar ideas anyway.

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>>48264361
The art fits your card better maybe, since the art focuses on the swing more than the actual knight.

As for the card, I was thinking of changing it from "damage" to "combat damage" since it seems a tad red without that specification.

>>48264516
That seems like a very niche keyword. Too niche of one for a 3 mana 3/2 with just that keyword.

>>48264543
So drop the keyword and leave the ability itself?

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>>48264516
Not my card, I'm CO anon. Also, not a fan of the keyword, since it's mono-Red. I'd definitely buy it if it were Red though. Or at least part Red. Though the name of the keyword reminds me of this guy, who prevents damage from being redirected.

>>48264575
Maybe, at least buff the creature in some way. It only really gets around protection and fog. If either of those things are in abundance it might be useful.

>>48264587
>>48264612
Okie doke, time to take this nigga back to the drawing board.

>>48264634
Perhaps when it hits a creature in combat, it deals that much damage to that creature's controller. Still needs Red though.

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Looking for input on this mechanic. Does it seem balanced? What would be a better name for it? "Sabotage" sounds like an anti-artifact thing.

>>48264868
Maybe go with 'sicken'? It's basically a reverse Bolster.

>>48265078
It is a reverse bolster. Sicken seems pretty good, but I want something that sounds like it can be extended to other colors.

>>48265090
Enfeeble? Curse? Hex? Suppress?

>>48265170
Ooh, enfeeble sounds really neat and could maybe find its way somewhere else. Thank you.

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>>48262991
Cool, though I'm not sure about making it all damage, since ping and Deahtouch exist. Maybe just combat damage.

>>48263009
I'm kinda surprised it doesn't scale with the number of Sands or Deserts you control or something. I think it's fine now though.

>>48265347
This is good, but I imagine a shovel would be more appropriate than a claw.

>>48265795
Eh, yeah. But the Dagger of Time made me want to do something for Prince of Persia as well. Well... now it's time to find a CO related shovel and reuse the design. As for the claw... I have no idea what else to do with it.

Would a mechanic that could bend the color pie if certain conditions are met be a good thing? I'm thinking something like
"Eye For an Eye 1WW
Instant
Tap target creature.
Justified - destroy that creature instead if an effect an opponent controlled destroyed a creature you controlled this turn."
Obviously the wording itself is wrong, but would an effect like this be ok or not?

>>48266530
I'm a bit confused as to why Justified isn't
>Destroy that creature if it dealt damage to you this turn.
And you don't have to make it "instead"

Not really. The end result is still the same; you're bending the color pie.
White does have the ability to destroy attacking/blocking creatures though, so if you wanted to do that, I'd stem it off that instead.

>>48266633
>>48266638
Alright. I'll look into other things.

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Kinda hard to find a pic of the coat by itself, for obvious reasons. So I just cut off John's head here. Though I do like the bodies in the background.

>>48266775
I'm sure the Bonesplitter players will like this.

>>48266854
What the...? This actually exists? Weird. Anyway, I think it's OK. I think. Kinda hard to balance I think.

>>48266872
Eh, seems fine.

What are some white options for putting -1/-1 counters on things? I know Choking Fumes and Gore Vassal exist, but is there any more room in white for them outside of infect?

>>48267638
Some form of equality/Humility, although it might be better just to do that with a P/T setting effect?

>>48267638
Yes. I've actually had an idea for this a while ago.
>Put X -1/-1 counters on target creature, where X is that creature's toughness minus 1.
Since it won't directly kill, it just hobbles. Here's another
>Whenever a creature attacks you or a planeswalker you control, put a -1/-1 counter on that creature.
Or something like that. Really just riffing on Ghostly Prison. Oh, and since Wither and Infect can go onto non-permanents, you can say
>Wither
>~ deals 3 damage to target attacking or blocking creature.
Or we can riff on Pacifism.
>Whenever enchanted creature attacks or blocks, its controller puts a -1/-1 counter on it.
Hypothetically, you could make something similar to Black Sun's Zenith since White is into "Kill them all, let God sort them out" effects. Really, just look at what White already has, and see if you can make a riff on it to have it use -1/-1 counters.

>>48267723
You can't really do an equality effect that easily with -1/-1 counters. I'm also pursuing things for commons, and humility type things are pushed into the higher rarities only.

>>48267765
>>Whenever enchanted creature attacks or blocks, its controller puts a -1/-1 counter on it.
Love this. I already have this in my set on a creature but I might put it in as the pacifism.
>>Put X -1/-1 counters on target creature, where X is that creature's toughness minus 1.
About this, I have a mechanic >>48264868 (now called enfeeble). Would that be significantly white, especially if it had a restriction on when it could be done (think "only enfeeble when an opponent has a creature of power 4 or more" or something)?

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>>48267806
Um... I suppose. Though I'm really not too keen on that keyword anyway. But it's up to you in the end. BTW, your post gave me another idea.
>Put three -1/-1 counters on each creature with power 4 or greater.
Since -1/-1 counters obviously decrease P/T, if you're going to exploit "White hates big creatures" I think you should have it throw out multiple counters at once, instead of just one. But that's just me speaking, and I'm fucking terrible at this. I mean, imagine me looking like John here. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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>>48218958

I have a habit of using the table post's numbers for my own rolls.

>>48267913
I think you could reduce the cost by at least 1, maybe 2, since--What's it called, Supplant Form?--does the same thing at 4UU but you keep the creature.

>>48267912
Well the enfeebling of a larger creature on a bigger card will up the number of counters. The zombie is just the mechanic at its smallest stapled to a creature. Like your idea though, may use that as a rare in some form.

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Trying to get into interesting, weird designs. Lately been trying to think about a phasing planeswalker

>>48267954
I don't like the keyword because all I can really see is a board state that never goes beyond just a few creatures per player. Doesn't seem very fun when creatures keep dying all the time, and literally nothing you can do to stop it.

>>48267961
>phasing
Good luck.

>>48267961
Consider that its loyalty abilities may only be used once every turn, and that it would take four turns to get that -9. Though with that effect it looks like you considered that to some effect. Also keep in mind that if you restart the game you want it to end again quickly (look at Karn, after using his -14 you probably have stored something of use.) so the match doesn't drag on too long.

>>48267987
This set has some swarmy things as well as lots of methods of counter removal or ways of playing around the counters. Enfeeble can only affect the biggest creature on each side, but that big creature probably has some sort of support that can deal with the counters or mitigate them. I'll still take that advice into consideration and limit its use.

>>48268049
I think it works okay. Only targetting the biggest creature means the target will likely be swapping with every instance. I see it more as just cutting down on fatties and making everything a more even mass of smaller creatures.

I could see that fitting pretty well into white, although I think it would work better if you're designing the set around -1/-1 counters and have other ways to inflict or remove them. Green would be a prime color to have the best ways of removing them, as they're more reliant on big creatures, and it fits thematically.

>>48268049
>>48267961
Yeah I wanted her ult to take a while to keep her more fair. We have enough busted walkers haha. And yeah, I realize if you don't hit anything too cool after the draw 3 to suspend you still might win fast or anything. Should I improve the card draw? Change the ult to something else?

>>48267987
>>48267961
Thanks lmao. I like to think she's fairly balanced, minus the game restart might not be terribly time-efficient.

>>48268148
might not win fast* sorry its late haha

>>48267938
I thought haste might push it too much but I suppose you're right.

Trying my hand at a walker.

>>48268092
Yeah, each color will have some method of removal. Green and white both spend them for activated abilities, blue can remove them passively but slowly, black can pass them on, and red can either do workarounds such as prowess or "burn" them off in some way. Green should also just be able to shrug them off to some regard. Keep in mind that the ability is targeted, so hexproof and protection can also ward it off.

>>48268148
Personally I think that resets are clusterfucks so you might want to change the ult to draw a ton then suspend a bunch of cards for a turn or two, and maybe reduce its cost. Also i don't think you need reminder text on a Planeswalker.

>>48268197
Return all creature cards from where? Also that's just Liliana Vess' -8.

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>>48268225

whoops. This was supposed to be a tribute to two of my favorite black cards

>>48268249
also emblem should say "all graveyards"

>>48268249
Deathtouch and menace aren't the best combination, since menace is a form of evasion and deathtouch is psuedo-psuedo-evasion, making it really unlikely for your opponent to block.

>>48268225
I think one method of removal could involve self bounce or flicker in some way. Maybe not as the main thing, but something to add in in the colors that get that sort of thing.

>>48268225
>>48268148

Yeah I know restarting is clunky and kinda ehhhh, but I liked the flavor of Jhoira finally harnessing time, or whatever. something like that at least lol.

Maybe "Draw four cards. Exile any number of nonland cards from your hand and put one time counter on them. If they dont have suspend they gain suspend." something like that?

>>48268291
Oh yes. I love flicker effects anyways so that's going in for sure.

>>48268314
Pretty neat. Might want to change the -1 to removal since she lacks protection. Just have her suspend an opponent's creature.

>>48268225
To add onto the -1/-1 counter, I just thought that green and white could have creatures could have an ability word that triggers whenever a creature with a -1/-1 counter attacks or blocks that can enable things like pump, moving a -1/-1 counter from the attacker/blocker onto the creature with the ability, or other effects.

Currently designing a card, and I have a few questions. First, is there any worth in a creature that turns all your artifacts and enchantments into O-Rings? And if so, what should they target? Second, how does White get to interact with artifacts beneficially? White's in this kinda weird place in that it can kill artifacts, generally doesn't do much with artifacts, but also loves equipment. And it's done stuff with artifacts in the past. Would it be reasonable, for example, to have a mono-White card that interacts with artifacts you control? That is, in ways that doesn't involve blowing them up.

>>48268740
>creature that turns all your artifacts and enchantments into O-Rings
You mean something that lets them exile one permanent each? That's fucking crazy. Anyways, how would you handle that without the ETB trigger?
>how does White get to interact with artifacts beneficiall
Tutors, I guess. White really loves equipment, and also likes creating artifact creatures to some extent (Myrsmith). That one mythic angel from Scars gave all your artifacts shroud.

>>48267961
Here's an idea that a couple friends and I had a while back that you can experiment with. A planeswalker with no plus loyalty abilities. Instead, it would start at high loyalty and have "+0: Exile CARDNAME with two time counters on it. It gains suspend."

Is there a reference doc somewhere with card variants that appear in typically every set? For example, every set has a giant growth variant and a blue card that just draw multiple cards.

>>48268796
Seems very underpowered, as it is a 0/1 for three mana, of all different colors no less. Like the last thing standing ability, but it could be pushed more.

>>48268828
Interesting

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>>48268841
I had already been thinking of a better version, but I wanted to make sure /ccg/ didn't think the 3-mana ability was too efficient.

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>>48268789
>You mean something that lets them exile one permanent each?
No. I mean something that exiles a permanent that is of or not of a certain type. Which is why I was asked what the ability should target. In the sentence right after the sentence you quoted.

>Anyways, how would you handle that without the ETB trigger?
I... won't? WTF do you mean? Oh, you think it works on stuff that's already on the field? No, it'd be like Constricting Sliver.

This is what I have for right now. Balance is not my strong suit.

>>48268946
Honestly the version in >>48268796 is hilariously inefficient. This looks a lot better.

>>48268958
I don't really get what you mean. But from what I surmise, it's something that makes it whenever and artifact/creature enters the battlefield under your control, it exiles something until it leaves the battlefield? If that's it and you want that to only work on one type of permanent, consider that it only affecting artifacts just makes it a really good hoser, while making it affect creatures can let it shut down more types of decks.

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>>48269031
Eh... I'll just leave it alone for now and focus on refining Epiphany as she is now.

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Here are three unrelated commons. I'm not sure if the white one is right for common or costed correctly, but it seems like a good tradeoff from pacifism since it can shut down little things but big things can still get a swing or two off, especially with counter removal. The blue one is like Ice Cage, but instead of a full shutdown it just can't attack or use its abilities and it's encouraged to block. I'm not sure about the black one's cost. It seems about right since you can't effectively target it and it's slow.

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Does this need to cost RR?

>>48269639
>Whenever enchanted land becomes tapped, do something Blue, or something Green.

>>48269685
Do you think Browbeat should be blue instead of monored too?

>>48269685
It's designed to be some sort of weird psuedo-land destruction, I guess.

But yeah, it reads really freaking weird.

>>48269719
It's honestly pretty fucked up. When was the last time you saw land destruction for 1R? And if they don't want to be a land drop behind, they have to risk you pulling ahead by another drop or by drawing a card.

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>>48269706
>Ha! Totally beat you with a great analogy! Even though those two cards aren't analogous!
Try harder next time.

>>48269719
Fuck, maybe it could be a Red version of Claustrophobia that hits lands. There's some weird Red card from Eldritch Moon that taps lands. SO WHY NOT

>>48269758
Browbeat gives the opponents a choice between the card doing something red-like or something not red-like. How is this any different?

>>48269758
How much does retrace up the cost of a card? Cackling Counterpart is 1UU for a copy (abeit your own creature, but at instant speed). Your card could maybe go down to five CMC.

>>48269639
>>48269719
Even if you were going for pseudo LD, the effect doesn't fit the flavor. You could easily get something similar by having it just deal damage to the player whenever they tap it. Gets across the idea that it's off limits, fits with Red's pie, and fits the flavor perfectly.

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>>48269747
>>48269758
>>48269797
Hell if I know. I didn't post that card, I just happened to figure out what the anon meant with it.

If we're doing land destruction auras though...

>>48269883
Too slow, only takes out one land by turn 7. Also "its controller sacrifices it" not "it's."

>>48269883
This is just strictly worse than stone rain.

>>48269909
It's way, way, worse but not strictly worse.

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>>48269909
>>48269906
I worried making it too cheap or act too quickly would make it too dangerous in multiples, because it's rather difficult to remove. Although I guess in a format with fetches you'd just slap it on a fetch and crack it.

>>48269909
Not every land destruction effect can be more better than one of the most efficient land destruction spells printed?

The issue with land destruction is that it grinds the game to a halt and makes it much more chance based while being a strategy that requires no real choices.

There's no way to fix this because lands are inherently boring. Do any of the MtG knockoffs make mana denial more interesting?

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I decided to try my hand at a card to support my favorite tribe. too bad we'll never see skeleton tribal support as zombies are the black poster boy tribe.

>>48270274
The X in the first activated ability should be taken out of the circle, as the circle indicates mana. I'd also suggest taking out the flavor text as it's incredibly wordy. If you want to keep the text, it's "its master" rather than "it's master."

>>48270274
Also, you don't need reminder text for Regenerate on a Mythic. That saves two and a half lines right there.

>>48270274
Seems really wordy. I think you could cut out the reminder text on Regenerate and that would help a lot. Also, I question if the Regenerate ability needs the tap symbol, as Regenerating taps the creature anyway if I recall.

Also, the Xs in the text should just be normal Xs rather than the mana version. I think the phrasing there needs to be cleaned up as well.

>>48270388
You missed an X.

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>>48270313
>>48270331
K, cleaned up.
>>48270355
I have the regenerate require Tapping because I didn't want the card to become too safe to attack with.
>>48270400
oops.

>>48270388
>>48270418
It's a 2/2 tribal lord. It being safe to attack with isn't a big deal, especially since that's eating into the tribal functions.

Most people are going to use it for just blocking or regenerating against removal. Making it so it can swing in is basically something that would only be done outside of a dedicated Skeleton deck.

>>48270418
In the reanimation ability, you must specify that it's returning "target Skeleton card"

>>48270480
Doesn't have to be a skeleton creature card, just a skeleton card. Remember to look for other cards for precedent and get the wording for abilities such as this.

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>>48270430
>>48270441
K, hopefully final version? I don't wanna fill up the image limit with my one card.
>>48270496
I'll try to keep that in mind, though I don't see myself doing this often.

>>48270512
Oh wait shit, I'm a faggot. It has be a creature. >>48270480 is perfect.

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>>48270527
arghflshnarghat

>>48269794
[Spoiler] Hey kid. Spitting Image, and by extension Retrace, are actual, printed things. [/spoiler]

>>48270553
Great, now make a set with skeleton tribal.

>>48270565
Oh shid. I knew retrace was a thing but not Spitting Image. Also nice spoiler, kid

>>48270577
I'm tired.
Was it the capital?

>>48270632
Yes. Just hit ctrl+s

>>48270567
Ha. . .Ha. . .Ha. . .
Maybe in time I'll tinker here and there, it's way too late at night now.

>>48272083
Seems cool. Now do one of the rest of the shards!

>>48270050
>"What is that?"
>" I think it's modern art."

>>48273407
>Now do one of the rest of the shards!
One of the BRx Shard satellites should have the option of paying Black to vindicate a creature or Red to Bolt it, I think that might be Grixis, but I'm not sure what the blue would do.

>>48270050
Honestly I would make it low cost and a 1/1 and change his ability to

"At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player sacrifices a nonbasic land. If that player does put a +1/+1 counter on Molten Effigy."

Makes him much more relevant and a potential risk to yourself. As is he hits to late to really do his thing and it likely wont matter.

>>48268946
It's still pretty bad. I'd honestly make it just 2G without Hexproof.

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Blergh.

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>Design a planeswalker with 3 abilities...

BUT

>...one of those abilities must not be an activated ability.

One of them must be either a triggered or static ability. Would look like Garruk Relentless.

Are you up for this challenge?

>>48276305
>Are you up for this challenge?
No.

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Is this guy good, too good, bad, or just too snowflakey?

>>48277457
oops - his mana cost is supposed to be 5BB.

>>48277457
I think Deathtouch is pointless, and the extra -1/-1 to non-demons is off as well.

Being able to cast him for free at 10 life can really swing games, especially with Haste and Life link.

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Is 4 toughness with this sort of effect too much?

>>48277735
"If a source would deal more than 1 damage to CARDNAME, prevent all but 1 of that damage." Seems ok powerwise since it costs 8. Shouldn't be a common, though.

>>48277901
Yeah it wasn't intended to be a common, I just hadn't fixed that yet.

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>>48277735
>If damage would be dealt to ~, prevent all but 1 of that damage.

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Not sure about the wording on the second part of its ability. Is it correct?

>>48278203
Oops, should have said "put all but one on that creature and put one on Cardname"

>>48278203
"If one or more -1/-1 counters would be put on a creature you control, you may instead put one of those counters on ~ and the rest on that creature."

Inverting the order makes it read cleaner and not require writing out math. Also, it's a replacement effect, so needs to have If and not When.

>>48278452
Thank you

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Hopefully this works. "Nonlethal" isn't technically defined by the rules, but it's the opposite of "lethal", which is defined.

>>48278713
Probably works fine. A step down from Indestructible in power, really.

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>>48278713
Actually...

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>>48256032
Huh, didn't realize that was actually part of Fight's rules. No idea why it couldn't be, other than future balance issues stemming off fight triggers.

>>48278804
That's where the idea came from.

>>48279422
10/10

Is anyone else have issue with MSE? I just installed some extra templates from the site but the app doesn't seem to recognize them. I think the templates are out of date?

>>48279422
Fantastic.

>>48278014
5/8 trample is kinda boring for a big multicolor legendary.

>>48277457
too good and too snowflakey.

>>48275518
If you tone down their combat potential, it would let the special abilities stand out more.

>>48275196
Both the mana cost and the flicker cost need to cost more. Perhaps a lot more.

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>>48250967
>Devoid and (C) on non-eldrazi creatures

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Just came up with this idea. Probably either broken as hell or not functioning in game. Opinions?

>>48251198
>Basically, she witnesses a universe where Zendikar falls, and she is turned into an Eldrazi.
It's not canon is it?

>>48280796
That's a silver border, mate.

>>48280788
I'm 80% sure that's a troll and you just gave him a a (you)

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>>48280816

>>48280843
meant for>>48280831

>>48280796
I'd try to base it off of Master of Predicaments.

>>48280816
>>48251198
Besides, you should at least have some of her abilities be corrupted/eldrazified versions of her normal abilities.

>>48272083
make it only look for lands that enter the battlefield under your control

>>48281553
it feels too similar to essence backlash with the trample bit.

>>48282269
I think you can add a little extra to make it more exciting than Corpse Lunge.

>>48282269
>>48282310
Maybe add self mill or something

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>>48282310
Aw shit, I accidentally made Corpse Lunge.

>>48283314
I'm stunned this doesn't mill.

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>>48280965
Not that I mind, but if its an actual specter itself, like the regenerate implies, it wouldn't get the Ship creature type.

Now if it was just a ship crewed by spirits, the Ship type makes sense, although it makes the regenerate questionable.

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>>48281082
>>48280816
OK, let's try this again. Instead of getting a card of a certain type out of a library, it puts a card not of a certain type in. Instead of pumping things of a certain type, it weakens things not of a certain type. And same CMC, same layout for mana costs, and reversed P/T. That corrupted enough?

>It's not canon is it?
I guess you'll have to read to find out!

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/blight-we-were-born-2016-01-13

Seriously, give it a look. It's great, and it's my go-to example for proof that the best Magic stories are about the PLANE and not the planeswalkers.

>>48281011
>3
>Artifact
>1, T, Sacrifice ~: Draw a card.
Seriously? That's all this really does.

>>48281011
That seems really unreliable since it requires at least two copies of the card in a deck to function, and one is completely dead.

>>48283879
No, it casts the spell.

>>48283913
Missed that it gets around the mana cost, sorry.

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>>48277457
>>48277505
>>48280256
These are all reasonable points. Here's the fixed version.

>>48284343
Still crazy as fuck. It's a free 7 life once you drop below half.

>>48284343
I would strongly consider either lowering the impact, a 14 life swing for free, or making it much harder to drop, like free at exactly 1, but with a lower cmc.

>>48284380
Yeah, I was thinking about maybe adding a sacrifice a creature clause or something.

>>48284343
I still think you should either lower the power and cost so it's less massive of a freebie, like a 4/4 instead, maybe lower it down to 5 cmc with that, and make it so you can cast him for 3 less if you fulfill the conditon, so if you're at half you can drop him for BB and get a fair chunk back, but not outright flip the life totals around by 7 for free.

>>48284457
>>48284343
>>48284467
Hell, Fateful Hour could be neat. Saccing something would be ok. Other additional costs or a nerfing is needed.

>>48284343
You can't have triggered abilities from hidden zones.

>If your life total is less than or equal to half your starting life total, you may cast ~ without paying its mana cost.

It shouldn't have lifelink and undo the risk of suiciding yourself.

>>48284579
This is pretty neat. I like the flavor of it.

>>48284599
Seems pretty useful in Black/Green.

>>48284599
Imagine this thing in Gitrog

>>48247147
I think the avenger is too good on just combat damage. Should be the standard combat damage to a player.

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Figured I'd post these now that they've been obsoleted by OGW.

>>48284711
Better than the OGW ones in my opinion

>>48284711
WB and UR ones are fair. GU also, but it's a huge wall of text. BG and RW ones are too close to repeatable removal on a land.

>>48283831
God damn, Tazri is such a trash mythic.

>>48284779
Sorry, >>48283831 didn't mean to offend.
I mean ACTUAL Tazri.

How would you cost a spell that tutors an equipment and puts it on the battlefield, but it also attaches that equipment to an enemy's creature? In this case, I suppose you couldn't cast it unless an opponent controls a creature.

I think it'd be fun, though maybe not very good. Also fun with Grafted Wargear.

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>>48280943
Eh, I don't understand the hybrid mana here.

>>48280994
>Put a land card from among them into your hand...

>>48278459
I mean I guess sure

>>48277735
Oh yeah, that's way too much. However, I really like that counter protection ability. Also, I hope this isn't ACTUALLY a common cuz that's bonkers.

>>48269479
The blue one feels way way way more white.

Enfeeble shouldn't target. This is basically backwards bolster so I'd copy the mechanics of bolster more to make it function right.

Weakening Constraints feels a lot more like a black card.

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>>48284792
Oh. Well, what do you of my Tazri?

>>48284843
You would have to pray that Wizards makes more Equipments with downsides. Otherwise, it's not going to work very well, I think. Speaking of.

>>48284845
Alright. I'll make adjustments. What about the blue enchantment really makes it white?

>>48284924
Blue aura removal has shifted pretty much entirely to tapping, while pacifism is very white. And preventing attacking feels very white, since white already grants defender with Guard duty.
I also feel like the shard 1 is too much of a drawback for what the card does and what it costs.

>>48284951
Got it.

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>>48284924
NO IDEA!
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>>48284967
I was going more towards
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=245283
or possibly even
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=383230 (more in terms of flavor, though)
I may actually go the encrust route instead, as it seems to be more of blue's thing now.

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hmmm

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>>48284989
Ice Cage is a bit of a color pie bend. Blue tends to get away with that when it has the Illusion drawback of saccing on target.

Yeah, getting rid of activated abilities is fine, it's just weird to have it so Blue prevents creatures from attacking or blocking in the first place.

>>48285056
I'm just going to do a reduced cost encrust, as that ability also goes more in color

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>>48285066
Alright, does this look better?

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>>48285056
Is the menace mostly just to justify red in the casting cost, since the character is red?
I feel like in a normal set this design would be better off on a mono white creature with, like, flying or first strike. Probably not first strike cuz it'd confuse people, I guess.

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>>48285106
Yes. Have to say, still don't really get Shard though.

>>48285129
Well, partially. It's also partly due to working from another build I had that had Menace as well. Do you think it's best to drop it for something else? Though I don't want Harvey to have Flying, just seems weird in flavor.

>Forcemage
Designed to be a blocker, right? Since Watchwolf is a 3/3 for GW, maybe increase the bonus to +2/+2? And I think you could say
>When ~ enters the battlefield, it gets
Instead of referring to it by name twice.

And speaking of FStrike, here. Just want to make sure it's OK due to the strength of the effect. And for the record, I only use mythic if I believe it's mechanically necessary, not because I think the character is too cool for rare.

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>>48282167
Don't really feel like this warrants existing compared to rampant growth. Nothing inherently wrong with it though.

>>48285219
By the time you can actually get the value off his ability, first strike isn't a huge deal.

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>>48285219
>Designed to be a blocker, right? Since Watchwolf is a 3/3 for GW, maybe increase the bonus to +2/+2?
Undervaluing flash. Flash makes it a trick that can easily be a one for zero. Don't want the bonus to be too big cuz of that possibility.

>When ~ enters the battlefield, it gets
I think you're right, thanks.

>tommy boy
I think the mana costs need tweaking, mostly in the upwards direction, but I like the idea a lot.

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I'm not sure how to balance this or if this is too similar to something that already exists in effect

>>48285364
storage lands

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>>48285284
>Flash
Eh... if you say so. Maybe +0/+2?

>Nemesis
Crap. I thought having to survive combat, not having Haste, and needing double Black mana each time would put it on par with Mindslaver. But thanks. Since I tend to suck at Clone variants, I decided to have him impersonate a player rather than a creature.

>card
I think it could be
>Draw two cards. Target opponent may draw a card. If he or she does, return ~ to its owner's hand.
Or you could say "Any opponent" and "If a player does" The whole "as you cast" and "as it resolves" thing is weird and unnecessary.

Well, good night everyone! And for the love of god, someone please make a new thread when this one gets close to the bottom of the catalog. Seriously. Don't want to have to make a new one first thing in the morning.

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>>48285384
Right, those exist

>>48285284
Could give it Vigilance in addition to Flash. That gives it some utility after it hits the field that doesn't overlap with Flash. Might still be a bit much though.

>>48285471
Missed opportunity for Fright Knight

>>48285502
Wow I only just noticed I made it a warrior instead of a knight even though he's clearly on a horse. What the hell. Thanks for mentioning that.

>>48285129
Upping it to 3 CMC gives you more room to play with power, though even at 2 cmc you can have the pump target like the similar cards.