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As an amerifat plebian who knows little about foreign finances

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As an amerifat plebian who knows little about foreign finances and politics, what the hell is all the hubbub about brexit and wargaming? What does this mean for GW and other european companies? Are they going to raise their prices even further to account for the dropping pound, and will this mean higher prices in america too because of it?

Can someone explain this all to me?
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>>47937676
>Can someone explain this all to me?

Even plebs know what an exchange rate is.
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you dont know anything about gw if you ever ask yourself "if" they are going to raise prices
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>>47937676
For Americans, they're likely going to be cheaper.
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>>47937676

Be glad you don't have to worry about it too much. Fear and lies have won the day and my nation is utterly fucked because of it. The United Kingdom won't exist before too long, Scotland and Northern Ireland are already on the way out.
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>>47937676
As a Brit if I want to buy some models from Baccus (company in the UK) I'd have to pay extra tax for being in the EU.

This means that an American would be able to get those models cheaper than a Brit would, (even though the company is just down the road).

That just doesn't make sense to me.

Not sure how it will affect you yanks though, but you can be sure GW will take any excuse to raise their prices.
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>>47937676
I'm already stockpiling cans of baked beans and bottlecaps to trade for Forge World stuff
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Can't Barrage the Farage!
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>>47937724
>this is what turkey-loving eurocucks actually believe.

A comedian got arrested in germany under turkish blasphemy laws for criticising Erdogan.

Enjoy being part of the caliphate you beta herbivore.
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>>47937724
Fuck me get a grip you mong. Oil is through the floor, NI won't leave. What has happened though is that the exchange rate has taken a short knock, give it a week or two and it will recover. More importantly though the UK is free... HERE I GO AGAIN ON MY OWN, GOING DOWN THE ONLY ROAD I'VE EVER KNOWN!
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>>47937687
The dollar price isn't a straight exchange of the brit price. Things that would cost $33 and change are $40, stuff like that. I doubt this will change anything.
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Good work brits, tell Brussels to fuck off with their non-democratic super state. As soon as we get a non-cunt president in office we'll work on those trade deals for a stronger UK.
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>>47937763
>tfw I'm a beta herbivore

Excuse me as I masturbate to hentai while crying.
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>>47937815

Are you referring to the way the exchange rate is handled when purchasing on FW? Who determines that anyway? Always assumed it was your bank/PayPal.

Also FW charges like 10% extra as some kind of tax/shipping, were you referring to that? I think they waive it if you buy a shit ton of stuff.
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>>47937807

LIKE AN ELDAR I WAS BORN TO PLAY ALONE
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>>47937676

Can someone give both sides of the deal, without descending into /pol/ territory?
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>>47937824
> bitches about a non-democratic state
> backs a candidate who is all about an enraged minority getting what it wants by throwing a temper tantrum
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>>47937849

Britain wants to leave the EU because of the stupid shit EU keeps doing like accepting refugees or whatever. This caused business people to panic and abandon ship so the currency of Britain is worth less now. Forge World stuff is sold entirely in British currency.

How the fuck do you retards not understand this.
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W-what? It happened? I just woke up, the last thing I saw in some life stream was sunderland being the first to vote for leave.

Oh god, all those tears must be delicious. Farage you glorious bastard.
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>>47937849
Here's a fairly neutral view.

http://youtu.be/QT5lgrs2fK4
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>>47937849
>please discuss politics without getting political

wut
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>>47937864
His fucking speech was glorious mate, I don't want him to ever be PM but no one can deny the sweet tang of Remainian tears. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPbDONLZwXQ
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>>47937880

>>please discuss politics without going rabid and shitting everywhere.
FTFY
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>>47937899

Going rabid and flinging feces all over the room is the ONLY way to operate. What are you, some kind of shitless non-badger?
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>>47937763

Scotland was already split about 50/50 on independence, and that hinged on staying in the EU. Every single district in Scotland tonight voted to Remain, and they lost. You don't see it adding up?
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>>47937763
>Turkish blasphemy laws
>Arrested

The laws which Erdogan used to start a court case against the comedian were German laws which state that it illegal to insult a foreign head of state from a friendly nation. I believe those laws are now being removed.

You're making this seem worse than it actually is.
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>>47937837
On the GW site if you press to see the price in dollars the one it gives isn't what you would get by exchanging the cost in pounds. I buy secondhand and just stop by the actual website once in a blue moon, so maybe there's something I'm missing.
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>>47937927
But anon, the Sun said....

:^)
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>>47937930

We're talking about FW you dumb nigger.
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>>47937946
> he read the Sun and take it serioulsy.
Honestly as a non Brit, each time I find and read the sun it makes me nauseous.
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>>47937882
You can see how moved he is. I hope he had a lot of sex with the girl at the end.
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>>47937974

That shows you are a sane, rational human being. The Sun is the worst kind of tabloid trash.
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>>47937974
... I was being sarcastic and snooty, but thanks for making my point.
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>>47937927
The fact that they ever existed in the first place was a disgrace. The fact that Germany actually arrested someone for hurting a mudslime's precious feelings was flat out unforgivable. If I hadn't already decided, that alone would be enough to convince me that leave was right.
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>>47937992
Still better than most of the MSM.
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>>47937930
A lot of old, obsolete laws still linger in the lawbooks. We still had blasphemy laws in ours you until a few years ago, they weren't enforced of course but someone with enough political weight might be able to still use something like that.
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>>47938041
Here in my country, among the old and non applicated laws we have : Woman are forbidden to wear pants.
Also, a town have a law which forbid UFO to fly above.
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>>47937957
>What does this mean for GW and other european companies
I don't see anything about this being exclusively about Forge World.
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>>47938056
Banning unidentified flying objects from soaring over towns doesn't seem like an absurd law.
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>>47938075
Anon, do YOU wanna be the ones to tell the ayys they have to turn themselves over to the cops?
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>>47938075
Check your human privilege you Terran shitlord
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>>47938075
The "absurd" part is that the law is specific to UFO. It isn't for any flying object.
Another decreted in 2007 that people who didn't have a tomb in the town were forbiden to die in the town.
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>>47938118
>forbidden to die

But what if they're killed in the town? They did realize people die when they're killed, right?
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>>47938128
I guess the perpetrator will be escorted off village grounds, and be thrown into a ditch somewhere.
After we ofcourse check his pockets to see if there's any living family we can fine.
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>>47938128
Maybe it's a special circunstance. It's from shitholes out of nowhere most of the time.
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>>47937725
No. When someine in e.g. France buys from a company in the UK you pay UK tax.

After split you won't pay UK tax but you will pay French tax.

The only time you'll pay both is buying from VERY small company that isn't VAT registered.
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>>47938128
I imagine the family gets fined. Kinda like how it's illegal to kill yourself using public transit in Japan.
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>>47937676
Amerifat here

Can I ask why they wanted to leave?
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>>47938161
Why does Japan need a law against suicide by public transit specifically?
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>>47937676
Easy.

This man fought for good and won.

Age of Sigmar is cancelled.
Warhammer Fantasy reinstated.
A new Codex for Sisters of Battle.
Squats make a return.
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>>47938165
EU allowed citizens of EU nations to move around inside the EU. This meant that poles could immigrate to Britain. The brits hate the poles, so they voted to leave the EU.
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>>47938165
Apparently, because Rupert Murdoch hates foreigners
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>>47938161
If you die, yes, it's a fine for the family. But in a town this small, everyone already have his family tumb.
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>>47937882

I'm slightly confused at that guy. He's an MEP. If we leave, he's out of a job.

I mean he's a cocksucking cuntwaffle either way, he's acting like the entire thing was all his doing...
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>>47938175
It's a (great) bother for everyone and for the traffic.
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>>47937763
He wasn't. He was ordered to not repeat parts of the poem. The laws were german and a remnant from the 40s as >>47937927 said, and even then the courts pretty much acted in the most lenient fashion the llaw allowed them to.
Law states that you may not insult Heads of States of friendly countries, under punishment. The courts ruled that it was art and legitimate satire and that he may not repeat the most personal insults of the poem as those are merely shit flinging.

y the way, Böhmermann is a total hack, and while one eye would have cried for our political independence if he got punished, the other one would have been laughing as he is a John Oliver level of Normie Faggot.

>>47938001
>The fact that they ever existed in the first place was a disgrace
Every country has some dumb laws that are left over from earlier times. And when it does come, there is nothing you can do except judge by the law and then change it afterwards, if you want to keep your judicial and legislative systems respectable and separate.

>The fact that Germany actually arrested someone for hurting a mudslime's precious feelings was flat out unforgivable
No one was arrested and he even got protection service in case some extremist tries to knife him.

> If I hadn't already decided
It shows. God forbids facts influence your opinion.
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David Cameron just stepped down as PM

Its happening.
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>>47938175
Because people kept doing it, and in places like Tokyo where literally millions of people ride public transit every day to get to work, it can actually cause some serious problems to have to scrape some sod off the front of a train. If you're going to kill yourself, don't make it tens of thousands of other peoples problem.
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>>47938165
Easy.
The EU is trying to create a superstate, the Brits are not having it.
It's about sovereignty and being able to make your own laws.
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>>47938165
Two camps, Camp Old people or "Leaving EU wil magicly restore us as a colonial superpower" and Camp "they tirrrkk errrr JERRRBBSS!!"
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>>47938200
That would imply that enough people did it for this to become a proble-

>>47938208
Oh god, where do you even get that many suicidal-depressives?

Is there something I should know?
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>>47938189

That's kinda amusing given that he's Australian.

Murdock hates the EU because Brussels tells him to fuck off, whereas the UK politicians immediately deepthroat him when he shows up
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Hooray for having zero clue what in the hell is going on across the Atlantic!

Seriously, we have no idea. Usually it's fine, it's like the Old World is a different world then the New World. OH WAIT! But now it's affecting us, so we have no clue how to react. And that's bad, and I have no idea where I'm going with this so I'm just going to end this post here. Hooray for stream of consciousness.
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>>47938001
You do know that the court decided that the Comedian was protected by free speech and Artistic laws and didn't have to pay??
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>>47938210
Eu never was about a super state. Nobody wish for the United States of Europa.
It's JUST an super economic union. The laws are to make the market more efficient.
Brits always want to be the super special snowflakes anyway.
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>>47938216
>>47938210
>>47938183
>>47938189
LOL
"because foreigners"
"because make britain great again"

So Trump isn't just an Amerifat phenomenon.
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>>47938210
>Form a superstate and stop being bullied by Russia and USA
>Stay solo, get bullied

Great thinking, Brits!
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>>47938218
>Oh god, where do you even get that many suicidal-depressives?
>Is there something I should know?
Japan has a culture of suicide; not talking about your problems, death before dishonour. that sort of thing.
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>>47938218
> Oh god, where do you even get that many suicidal-depressives?
Work. The average corporate office is essentially a factory for churning them out.
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>>47938203
The fact that a turkish wannabe sultan has the slightest of say in our country is sad. There's no debating that.
The fact that he is courted by our politicians is even sadder.

The fact that our politicians did not speak up against his misuse of a stupid law speaks bounds of how they value you, your freedom and rights.

Don't make this about the courts, the one and only sane branch of power we have left.
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>>47937676
This is such a shitty excuse to shitpost about the brexit on /tg/
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>>47938241
Anon, the powers that be have been using them damn immygunts as a scapegoat since ancient Rome, at least. I'm sure there was some potentate in ancient Sumer who got support because he ranted about Akkadians moving there and stealing all their jobs.
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Obama is a horrible person. Come and arrest me for insulting a foreign leader Morkel!
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>>47938216
Now you saying "Camp Old People" made it really confusing for me, 'cause now I was imagining a bunch of grannies acting all camp like.
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>>47938210

England gets pissy if anyone else tries to form a superstate.
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>>47938165
DEMOCRACY
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>>47938224

Oy cunt, don't lump him in with us. He gave up his citizenship. We are not all...wait, naaru. Never mind!
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>>47938259
>Rome

>Nos mos constructum a parietis , quod barbarus mos persolvo pro is.

This translation is probably ten kinds of wrong.
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>>47938235
>muh European Army
>EU Leaders literally stated that the goal is a USE

stay blind.

>>47938241
>sovereignty is racist
nice meme

>>47938243
implying I'm a Brit.
implying the EU didn't start bullying

>>47938266
The English have a long and great history fighting agains superstates and imbalances of power, yes, you'd be right about that.

But stay butthurt about democracy, guys.
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>>47938218
>Oh god, where do you even get that many suicidal-depressives?
>Is there something I should know?

Take a countrywhere eople are crammed together, add a culture revolving around shame, conformity, bullying on all social levels and a "excell or be expelled from society" mentality.
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>>47938243
The leave faction think that Russia is their greatest ally in the war against Islam, feminism, homosexuality, and political correctness. They believe that the US will be as well if Trump wins. They fap to the idea of some glorious masculine white christian super state consisting of the US, the UK, and Russia.
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>>47938252
>The fact that a turkish wannabe sultan has the slightest of say in our country is sad. There's no debating that.
Have you read my post? EVERY. SINGLE. HEAD OF STATE. could have sued in that situation. Bush could have sued us a hundred times. Fucking Kim Jong Un could fucking sue us.

>The fact that our politicians did not speak up against his misuse of a stupid law speaks bounds of how they value you, your freedom and rights.
>Politicians are bullshit
No shit sherlock. Name a country where this is not the case.
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>>47937763
under german law you fucking retard
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>>47938280

They also have a long history of MAKING them. Or does 'British Empire' not ring a bell?
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>>47938265
Camp old people earned a fair amount of flak as most of them will either be dead or on their locked pension when their vote start having an effect.
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>>47938283
Trump loves homosexuals. He was also a democrat for almost his entire career. If you think him running as a Republican is for any reason other than him knowing it's his only chance to win, you're deluded. Man's lefter wing than Hilary.
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>>47938298
Sure, and some of the most successful states in the world came of it.

I'm not even a leave fag.
I'm divided about it.
I think that the EU needs a lot more Britain, not less.
But I understand them saying "Fuck this."
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>>47938301
Well yeah, but I was grinning about the fact that I thought you said: "Camp" as in the adverb camp.
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>>47938280
Democrcy is dead, lobbyist populist mob rule is the new state of affairs.
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>>47938280
>implying the EU didn't start bullying
Of course it did, Brits are not a super state.
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>>47937882
>Without a bullet being fired
Okay, now I know that the Jo Cox guy wasn't working for UKIP and that it probably hurt the leave campaign more than it helped it, but come on now.
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>all these booty-blasted eurocucks

stay salty my friends
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>>47938280
>muh European Army

Are you talking about the project wich is 30 year old and which never started. The only military collabiration is within the UN, the NATO and for the nex technology developpement.

There isn't a single leader who whish for that USE of yours.

You should also work on your "British history", on a greater period of time. They did nothing anyone else in Europe did at a different time period.
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>>47938318

I don't think that's something the Leave camp understands. Most of them seem to be acting like 'England' and 'The rest of europe' are equal forces.
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>>47938323
Interesting how that story changed from "nosy politician got shot for getting invoved with street argument" to "right wing assasin"
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>>47938283
>They fap to the idea of some glorious masculine white christian super state consisting of the US, the UK, and Russia.

tbqhwy famiglia that does sound pretty boss
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>>47938335

About the same time he said his name was 'Death to traitors, liberty for Britain'
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>>47938309
First off, I'm not saying what I think. I'm just saying what the brits supporting brexit think as to why they weren't concerned about the US or Russia bossing them around. It's stupid, but it's what they think.

As for Trump, Trump doesn't love anything aside from himself. If slaughtering every homosexual on the planet made him more money, or somehow enhanced his brand, he'd do it. He isn't to the left of anyone because he simply isn't anywhere on the spectrum.
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Ever notice how the only threads that are never called "off topic" and "non-traditional gaming" by the board fun police are these fucking /pol/ threads?
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>>47938318
Wat?
I was talking about how the EU bullied Russia, not Britain.

>>47938323
>Jo Cox guy
She was a woman.

>>47938327
This tbqh

>>47938329
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/08/jean-claude-juncker-calls-for-eu-army-european-commission-miltary

From the Guardian, m9.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10559458/We-want-a-United-States-of-Europe-says-top-EU-official.html
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>>47938331
Understanding is for university loosers.

Just tell us the 3 step plan on how to make England great again without any short term effort or sacrifice on our part.
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>>47938350
The guy who shot her wasn't.
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>>47938349
Report and hide, it's your power in the 4ch democracy.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-cameron-resigns-resignation-brexit-eu-referendum-result-live-latest-prime-minister-general-a7099936.html


CAMERON BTFO
CAMERON BTFO
CAMERON BTFO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHJoj9IqeKg&ab_channel=GoranKrstic
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>>47938351
Well the Brits have this weird thing where they do that more often. I recall that when there was a pretty big storm all I heard was
"... and this leaves the mainland cut off from Britain." Rather than the other way around.
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>>47938309
This.

It's going to be hilarious when all the republitards vote in Trump thinking they won, then Trump reminds them all he was and always has been the biggest liberal second only to Sanders and they're all a bunch of easily manipulated idiots.
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Yeah, that's cool and all, but how do I incorporate an allegory into my fantasy setting?
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>>47938349

In all fairness the original question was asking how this is going to alter prices of European Wargaming products.

Answer - No fucking clue, except for GW, which will rise, obviously
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>>47938264
You know that the doesn't exist anymore. Do you?
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>>47937715
Until GW raises their prices to compensate the prices will be lower. Buy quickly.
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>>47937724
>Scotland and Northern Ireland are already on the way out.
Good, why the hell do you britfags even want to associate yourselfs with those skirt-wearing sack-flautists?

Anglosphere forever, pops.
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>>47938380
Finally I can buy that Tomb Sphinx that's been sitting in my FLGS for two years!
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>>47938349
/pol/ has become pretty much become the central board when it comes to defining the overall culture of 4chan. People give it a pass because it's just the baseline, nothing out of the ordinary.
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>>47938191
>If we leave, he's out of a job.
>why is someone putting something they truly believe in above their own personal welfare?
Selfish bastard, aren't you?
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>>47938375
Depending on which you'd rather:
>A treacherous noble makes deals to separate his region from the PCs' kingdom so he can enslave his population
>A noble revolution frees a small, once rich region from an oppressive empire that had been leeching its resources
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>>47938399
Meh, let's stay real here,
The Nige is doing pretty well for himself, he doesn't need EU money.
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>>47938317
Democracy was always just that, demagoguery and pandering to the plebes.
Aristocracy should have never been abandoned.
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>>47938331
>>47938351
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>>47938410
Still, not everyone is so greedy that they constantly seek out the most profitable use of their time.
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>>47938317
That's mainly in the US though.
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You think this is exciting, wait till the dollar drops when Trump is president.
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>>47938424
Can you give us the statistics beside a graph?
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>>47938424
I laughed.
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>>47938420
Aristocracy wasn't abandoned. It's what we have. The fact that we don't make the titles official doesn't change the fact that wealth and power are still inherited more often than not. Just look at Trump.
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One day, even the last star will burn out and the universe will be nothing but an empty husk.

Compared to that, what does it matter what happens to any of these places? Who cares what their motives are? Good, evil, honest, deceitful, what's the point?
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>>47938429
Yeah.
Somebody who fought against ridicule and being disenfranchised for 20 years definitely doesn't.
One can say whatever about Nigel, but he's not lacking in conviction

>>47938443
This, it gets even worse.
There's a word for it: Refeudalization
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>>47938350
>She was a woman.
So? What does that have to do with anything?
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>>47938243
>Form a superstate and stop being bullied by Russia and USA
Are you seriously implying a failing one-size-fits-none union is supposed to be a deterrent to the US and Russia?

Russia fucking up and took back the Crimea with barely any repercussions when EU officials got uppity and goaded the Ukrainian people into violently overthrowing their elected officials because they weren't pro-EU enough.

The EU deters jack shit.
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>>47938386
Only if your FLGS prices stuff in pounds.
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>>47938443
>It's what we have
>plebes having a say in the political process and being used as a political resource by the oligarchs
>aristocracy
Anon, you don't know what words mean.
"rich and powerful people being in charge" doesn't make a government aristocratic, it just makes it oligarchic (like all governments since the dawn of the city-state)
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>>47938456
I thought that he said that Jo cox was a guy.
I misunderstood his post.
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>>47938465
Ah. Guy is mostly gender-neutral in Britain.
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>>47938455
>Refeudalization
There is almost nothing wrong with feudalism and other such reactionary ideologies, the only major problem with them was hereditary succession and lack of new talent from outside the established elite.
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>>47938454
Not a single human lives in that time frame, you pseudo-intellectual cunt. We live for a few decades and our welfare depends heavily on what happens in 'these places'.
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>>47938424
> people indoctrinated by cultural marxists more likely to vote remain
Not surprising.
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>>47938479
>using cultural marxists unironically
Anon please tell me about how the lizard people are behind all this.
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>>47938235
>The laws are to make the market more efficient.
EU just pulled a thing which states you must legalise gay marriage or civil unions.

Not a market thing.
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>>47938424
Fairly understandable.
People that want out the most are the ones that can be easily replaced unskilled immigrant labour.
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>>47938454
>One day, even the last star will burn out and the universe will be nothing but an empty husk.
Not if we get our shit together and have anything to say about it.
At the very least we can save the local group.

>Compared to that, what does it matter what happens to any of these places? Who cares what their motives are? Good, evil, honest, deceitful, what's the point?
Because we live in these places, and those things matter to us. The infinite ember of the universe is nothing compared to the glorious spark of a human life.
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>>47938464
Aristocracy (Greek ἀριστοkρατία aristokratía, from ἄριστος aristos "excellent," and kράτος kratos "power") is a form of government that places power in the hands of a small, privileged ruling class.

Oligarchy (from Greek ὀλιγαρχία (oligarkhía); from ὀλίγος (olígos), meaning "few", and ἄρχω (arkho), meaning "to rule or to command")[1][2][3] is a form of power structure in which power effectively rests with a small number of people.

>>47938484
not that anon, but implying that universities don't have a massive liberal bias is nonsense
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>>47938484
No, cultural marxism is a neo-nazi idea. That's not related to the lizard people conspiracies.
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>>47938484
Not him, but there are no lizard people, there is no Illuminati, and there is literally nothing wrong with being Jewish.

But there are communists, and they are trying to destroying the west, and to rot it from the inside.
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>>47938489
It's "universal human right" normally.
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>>47938257
I don't know, it's better than just posting a picture of Trump and saying 'Stat Me'. OP has spent at least 30 seconds coming up with this bait.
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>>47938477
Not living in that time frame is precisely what makes all of this so irrelevant. Our lifespans fall well within the margin of error for the established age of certain countries, never mind those of the planet or universe.

Makes it hard to care, doesn't it?
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>>47937676
Okay, lets break this down.

You pay a certain number of dollerydoos for your plastic manz and that means that GW gets a certain number of britbongs.

If the pound is weak then GW might reduce the dollerydoo price so that you pay less but they get the same number of britbongs (this is what happens in cut-throat competitive areas like IT).

However, more likely that they will leave the dollerydoo price the same which means they get more britbongs per plastic manz than they did yesterday.

It's not all good though. When GW goes to buy plastic pellets from China or parts or their machinery from Germany or America then they will need to pay more britbongs for their suppliers to get the same number of dollerydoos, deuchymarks or moon-money.

Since money in from sales is bigger than money out for purchases the extra britbongs from sales should be more than the extra britbongs for purchases.

TL;DR Weak local currency is good for companies that manufacture and export.

Companies that have everything made overseas and then sell locally are fucked (because their stuff costs more and there's no extra income to balance it).
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>>47938495
Don't be a wiseass, anon. We don't live in an aristocracy because the ruling class is actually fairly large (as compared to historical aristocracies), and the elite fall out of favor as quickly as the noveau riche rise to fill their place.
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>>47938508
No, because we're still living those goddamn lives day by dragging day.
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>>47938501
>universal human right
>universal
>human
>right
K E K
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>>47938484
>>47938497
Except that the definition of cultural marxism is nothing inherently linked to racism or neo-nazism. It's an ideology that wants to turn every culture into one superculture. Like when people burn American flags and say make American Mexico again without irony. Like when the Swedes ban their own flag in a school and encourage people to let black men fuck their wives in order to be "multicultural." And if you want I'll provide sources for both of those. /pol/ isn't the answer, because /pol/ is the exact same, it just wants to wipe out world culture and replace it with Nazism as opposed to Communism.

>>47938500 has the right idea. The EU was trying to control people who weren't hurting them or anyone else. That's wrong, and that needs to stop.
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>>47938479
...do you seriously thing its not the top% ers that are most vehemently pro-EU?
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>>47938501
It's a universal human right not to be bothered about who you love - if between consenting adults.

There's nothing about marriage anywhere.
Marriage is not a human right.

and opening up the can of worms of
universal rights is doing nothing good to this discussion
"universal" is always defined by it's time.

>>47938513
You've got a point there. Still I'd argue that most rich people stay rich - and therefore in power.
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>>47938513
I'm not sure why I should prefer the EU's bureaucracy over an aristocracy.

I'm getting a dick up the ass either way, whether it's an unelected official's dick or a nobleman's dick.
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>>47938511
And let's face it, the UK exports almost nothing aside from financial and marketing services. Maggie T saw to that.
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>>47938532
You can hope that the nobleman's dick is so deformed from inbreeding that he can't get an erection or properly penetrate you.
The bureaucrat might fuck you inefficiently, but you're definitely getting fucked.
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>>47937849
>This caused business people to panic and abandon ship so the currency of Britain is worth less now.
'Abandon ship' is a very overstated way to say it.

When there is an event (or announcement of one) that will effect a market in an unkown quality or quantity inventors who are looking to stay safe pull out until the quality and quantity of the change is better understood, and then they re-evaluate the investment under the new conditions and re-invest less, more or the same amount as they pulled out during the initial confusion.

So even if this was an extremely strong decision for the UK currency and economy, and it probably is in the long haul, you would always expect some people to pull out their investments until they better understand it.
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>>47938523
>Like when the Swedes ban their own flag in a school

That was by a parody internet magazine, to win clicks from outraged far-righters.
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>>47938191
Don't worry about it. He will reinvent himself as the benevolent overlord all the old people crave for.
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>>47938532
>I'm not sure why I should prefer the EU's bureaucracy over an aristocracy.
Because aristocracies and nobilities generally tend to care about their wards, as they are directly passed on to their children and families, as opposed to bureaucrats who only care about the few years or decades they're in office.

Regardless, either way, letting the plebes have a say in government is a horrible idea.
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The Problem people don't seem to grasp is that the EU lobby was very anti-UK. In the EU has been split down the middle since it's begining with the defense focused France vs the Industrialist Germany.

Traditionally the UK fell in with the Industrial side. We wanted trade partnership from the EU, not civic laws and mandates.

Recent undemocratic reforms in the EU and the current trends the EU politicians are going for were very much not in the camp with the vision the UK had with the EU.

I voted leave because the future of the EU is not about increasing trade or increasing wealth of nations involved, it's about buying out poor states to make a buffer against Russia while forwarding the dream of a "United Europe"

The fact is the UK doesn't need the EU for protection because Russia have never been a threat to our borders, and we don't need the influx of poor unskilled workers.

So all we wanted was trade, and the EU told us to accept more than we wanted.
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>>47937882
The audio doesn't work for me for whatever reason.
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>>47938533
Yes and no.

Exports of goods are low but the UK exports quite a lot of services. These also become more profitable for the same reasons.

But you're right - there are a lot of UK businesses that buy from overseas and sell locally. A weak pound is bad for them and for their customers (i.e. everybody).
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>>47938528
Marriage might not be.
But even tax benefits are.
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>>47938567
>>47938533

Sorry, mis-read your comment on exports. Total agreement.
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>>47938527
> implying those are different
The people pushing cultural marxism ARE the "top% ers." They're the ones trying to breed a docile race of proles who will just suck a welfare check and go along with their agenda. They are the ones that control universities, and use it as a platform to brainwash people into fucking their imported nogs to breed out any trace of dignity or self-worth.
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>>47938562
Are the "plebes" then supposed to rely on the lords for everything? To think for them, to speak for them? Are they to sell their very humanity, rather than risk voicing their concerns themselves?
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>>47938548
Exactly - people who are responsible for millions of dollars of someone else's money (should) have a natural dislike of uncertainty and sudden change.
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>>47938001
It was an archaic shit law, like how the US has tons of batshit insane laws that don't make sense any more but they haven't bothered to remove because nobody beings them up.

He did not get arrested.

All charges were dropped.

Stop being a cunt.
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>>47938523
> I'll provide sources for both of those.
Then just get on with it, because saying that stuff without a source is just stupid.
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>>47938567
Like I said, it exports nothing but services.

It doesn't seem like a good idea for a country that thrives on being an international service provider (and nothing else) to burn as many bridges as Nigel wants to.
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>>47938575

That dream is utterly dead now.
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>>47938575
Yeah right. This was a final nail in the coffin for the USE.
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>>47938424
The EU knows the value of funding higher education. 'Purchasing' the consensus within an institution ensures the graduates it produces with have spent years being inundated with pro-EU retoric.
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>>47938580
>Are the "plebes" then supposed to rely on the lords for everything?
Worked pretty well for the past few thousand years until those damn enlightenment thinkers came along.

>rather than risk voicing their concerns themselves?
Solicit the king, emperor, or whoever with concerns. They are under no obligation to listen to the prole, but it is in their likely best interest to do so.
Prosperity comes from order, and order comes from authority.
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>>47938589
The goal isn't to burn the bridges, just the paperwork.

The real goal is to get the same deal as Switzerland.
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>>47938592
>>47938596
>implying a fragmented Europe isn't easy pickings
At the very least we'll be able to formalize the Anglosphere.
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>>47938603
Which won't happen now that the brits have pissed off the entire EU.
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>>47938562
The French of the late 18th century would like a word about the nobility 'generally' caring about its wards.
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>>47938600
>Prosperity comes from order, and order comes from authority.
Found the fascist.
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>>47938610
A US or Russian invasion is, I admit, basically the only thing that'd be able to unify Europe.
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>>47938580
Much as I intensely dislike the idea of the feudal structure in that structure a pleb had value and worth.

In the office drone, there's plenty more in the dole line who want this job, way things have been going people as people become worthless.
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>>47938613
>using the French revolution as an example of ANYTHING good
The French Revolution is the perfect example of why you DO NOT, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, let the plebes have the smallest iota of power.
America is the exception, and prospered in spite of its democracy and federalism.
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>>47938612
Oh please, it'll calm down because all the big players of the EU want to keep trade with the UK anyway

It's all hot air.
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>>47938610
Am I the only one who thinks Canada should have thrown a little blue into their flag design? Just a bit, not a whole lot. Maybe a thin blue border around the leaf and a couple little stripes in the center of the red chunks.
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>>47938583
http://remezcla.com/culture/make-america-mexico-again-hats/
http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.574/swedish-school-bans-the-swedish-flag.html
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>>47938603
That's his current rhetoric but it doesn't fit with views that he's spouted in the past.

He's got a chance to be genuinely electable so of course he's toning it down a bit.
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>>47938564
It will be a pleasure when boats full of immigrants start coming to England, and you brits won't be able to pay Italy, Spain and the others in the Mediterranean area ( like the rest of the EU does) to take them in instead of having them sully your precious islands. Hope you have porridge out the asshole, because it's refugee o'clock.
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>>47938621
>Found the fascist.
imperialist*

Fascism draws its power and rhetoric from the people, which is why it fails.
Not all authoritarian ideologies are fascist, anon.
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>>47938628
>implying the Founding Fathers weren't the local aristocracy, with some even having large stakes in the criminal underworld
>implying the Revolution wasn't really an armed secession
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>>47938628
Yeah. That's because commoners decided to act like nobility, just a voted-for nobility, and they made the feudalism informal.
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>>47938624
You now realize why wage slavery is arguably worse than chattel slavery.

A 'rented' person can be used up and replaced at almost no cost. An 'owned' person is property with a value that needs to be maintained for the sake of the owner's net worth.
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>>47938635
You know, you're not wrong.
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>>47938635
Absolutely, but what can you expect from >DUDE WEED LMAOs

>>47938641
Be that as it may, America still prospered in spite of its democracy.
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>>47938631
kek
They have other markets, we're only 2% of EU's export GDP while the EU is 12% of ours.
Face it, we just committed economic suicide
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>>47938624
>In the office drone, there's plenty more in the dole line who want this job, way things have been going people as people become worthless.
That happened in the middle ages as well.
We needed the plague to get back on track.
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>>47938644
>Yeah. That's because commoners decided to act like nobility, just a voted-for nobility

Why would you trust the plebes to chose the best amongst them?
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>>47938576
How is that marxist in any way?
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>>47938644
It's because they figured capitalism would lead to their liberté, egalité and fraternité. I'm still convinced it was an honest mistake, rather than a conscious attempt to implement a new ruling class.
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>>47938639
Immigrants we can now send back to countries of origin.

Refugees, genuine refugees, we will be stuck with. But that's a far, far lower smaller number.

So it's a gain for us.
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>>47938652
Too bad the EU wont trade with the UK anymore.

Oh wait, they will
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>>47938636
> http://remezcla.com/culture/make-america-mexico-again-hats/
An obvious parody of Trump's "Make America Great Again" hats. Right down to the color.

>http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.574/swedish-school-bans-the-swedish-flag.html
See >>47938553
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>>47938652
kek
You underestimate the sway big corporations with interest in the British market- and labourplace hold with EU MePs and people like Merkel.

Merkel said she wants to continue trade as is.
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>>47938655
You don't. That's why they have this fucked-up voting system.
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the Remainers can whine all they want at this point. It's over, they lost.

And Britain won.
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>>47938668
>That's why they have this fucked-up voting system.
It only confuses them more and leads to even worse decisions.

The plebes ought be totally divorced from politics entirely outside of the local level.
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>>47938652
Sacrificing the privilege of free trade with a struggling union in exchange for the ability to trade with the rest of the English-speaking world, including a vast number of former colonies in which the British influence is still very noticeably, without having to go through and abide by the regulations of said struggling union doesn't sound like suicide.

Maybe it's just me.
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>>47938001
You are aware that the UK was one of the powers who had a huge say in what actually ends up in these laws right? So, you are basically complaining about something your shithole island fucked up.
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>>47938664
>>47938667
>Merkel wants to continue trade as is
And I'm pretty sure a bunch of other member states are going to be in favour of dropping tariffs on us. The best part is whatever regulations the EU comes up with we still have to follow to do business with them, and we have no say in them.

Besides, to a lot of companies who use us as a middleman (like lots of US ones who like our Angloness) it's far easier to just cut losses and deal directly than fuck around with tariffs.

>>47938672
>Britain won
>Britain
>not a frog-faced public school cunt
Go back to bed Fromage
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>>47938665
Until people started taking it seriously and wearing it to protests.
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>>47938680
In practice they are, the electoral system that the brits use (which then all the brit-derivatives use) is designed to be complicated and keep the ones in power, in power.
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>>47938672
This is the first time I have felt hope for my nation in the "things are looking good" sense for twenty years.

Usually the only hope was "maybe it won't rape us too hard this time".

I actually feel happy and unashamed of Britain and its people for the first time in a long time.
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>>47938663
Wait and see, anon. Refugees will start to pop out of everywhere. If they can make it, you have refugees on you hands. If they don't make it, you have dead refugees, and that opens up a new whole can of problems. Just ask any Italian friend you might have.
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I'm just glad the smaller nations in the EU (that is, everyone but France and Germany) won't have to pay the Britain-fee now.
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>>47938688

You'll still need to listen to the same economic decisions. Companies tend to obey ALL trading partners restrictions rather than having separate things for each.
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>>47938688
>including a vast number of former colonies in which the British influence is still very noticeably,

I'm a Canadian and I respect the British, but I seriously think you overestimate British international authority outside of a bit of political respect.
At least as far as Canada is concerned, the States holds the leash economically. I'd warrant it's the same for most commonwealth countries. If the States loses patience with Britain - and since Britain just made itself inconvenient for funneling American goods into Europe that's a possibility - I think the commonwealth would sooner play ball with America than Britain.
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/tg/ votes for leave because they don't like the EU.

Yet also believes that the people should have no say in matters governance and should be totally subservient to an authoritarian state that is ruled by a small, elite ruling class made up of those who inherited immense wealth and power.

Seems legit.
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>>47938690
Oh, yes, sure.
It is definitely the Doomsday you predict!
Woe is me! O tempora! O mores! How could I have been so wrong.
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I wish the entire mediterranean would follow suit and pack up their shit. A Northern-European Union might be economically viable.
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>>47938706
57 posters, you dunce.
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>>47938706
The EU was cause in the first place by democracy and letting the plebes have a say; the least they can do is dismantle it.
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>>47938705
It's not about authority. It's about sharing fundamental cultural aspects.
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Ah well. At least the pig-fucker is out of office now.
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>>47938709
The evidence is already there in how fucked the pound is, retard.
What's the betting a bunch of Europhobic MPs are going to be able to negotiate decent trading deals in the two years or so before we're officially alone?
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>ITT: Not a single britbong understands what a common market is.

Good riddance. Regardless what you as a people want, your government will want access to the European market. And that means you will abide by all the shitty laws you bitched about, and pay all the same money to Europe and you will get all the same immigrants - but you will have no voice, no vote, no nothing.

Good luck.
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>>47938689
We had no say worth a shit. When Cameron went to Brussels to negotiate immigration controls he talked a good fight to BBC cameras and then came back with a 5 permit that was so flimsy as to be worthless.

Fuck th@
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>>47938703
>Companies tend to obey ALL trading partners restrictions rather than having separate things for each.
Nothing about that makes sense. You're pulling this out of your ass.
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>>47938712
>scandicucks
>viable
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>>47938725
>Captain, I'm sensing a large amount of butthurt coming from mainland europe
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>>47938721
That's not evidence, that's just market reaction to something new and scary.
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>>47938725
Can't wait for all these Brexitards to realise this. It'll be something to laugh about when they join me in the dole queue
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>>47938725
>but you will have no voice, no vote, no nothing.
Business as usual in the EU, then?

Except the Britbongs can now circumvent the EU's bullshit when dealing with non-EU states.
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>>47938721
>media and politicians incite panic in the market
>market reacts with panic

"how cud this hapn. it was leave!"

Strong argument there.

Try coming up with something sound and we can debate.
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Jesus Christ, I came to this board to get away from the referendum.
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>>47938737
>implying Britain won't form the Anglosphere with America and the commonwealth
>implying it won't be just like the EU, but better and without bullshit faggotry, as well as having a country in it that's nearly the GDP of the EU already
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>>47938721
>Stock market speculation based on a passing panic
>Evidence
Pick one and only one.
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>>47938706
> Seems legit
Yes, it does.

/tg/ has always favored authoritarianism. The Empire from Star Wars, the Imperium of Man from 40k, etc. are seen as ideal states here, not dystopias. People here like to rebel against prevailing liberal notions about governance or society. Take chattel slavery for example. Liberal society sees it as abhorrent, but on /tg/ it is seen as very desirable to reduce non-whites to the status of property, and it is generally believed here that blacks were actually better off as slaves. The approach to aristocracy is similar. While most of liberal society objects to things like inherited rule, landed nobility, serfdom, and the like, /tg/ approves of it.
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>>47938745
Yeah. 4chan used to be a little bit /b/ everywhere, then a little bit /v/, now it's a little bit /pol/.
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>>47938689
This is in essence the reality of the situation. By the records of the House of Commons 15%-55% of British laws are in some way "European Laws" in that they were influenced to some degree by negotiation with the EU. That range is so wide because nobody can agree on how much influence is significant enough to count as "European" and how important the laws have to be to actually matter. For example the UK has laws on the books that it agreed to with the rest of the EU regulating crops it does not and cannot produce, most notably tobacco and olives.

And the laws and agreements that are "European" are laws that the UK had a major influence in shaping. It's like if the US decided to back out of a favorable trade agreement with China to re-negotiate it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHNfvJc99YY
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>>47938233
Yes, but that doesn't confirm his bias, so he ignores it.
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>>47937676
>See thread about UK leaving the EU
>Clicks on it to see how bad it is
Yeah, this is about what I expected.

>>47938665
Shocking, satire going over someone's head because it's poking fun at something they agree with.
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>>47938747
>the anglosphere
>the commonwealth
>the fucking commonwealth
Yes, because the backwaters of India and Mozambique are just as large economic powerhouses as Germany or Italy
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>>47938745
>implying you can get away
>implying the ride ends
>implying we're not dead
>implying this isn't Hell
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>>47938770
You mean those places our wise and glorious capitalists are moving their production to?
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>>47938720
I wonder how many people voted leave just to get rid of him.

Truly the greatest ally the leave campaigners had in all of this was the stay campaign.
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>>47938764
>Shocking, satire going over someone's head because it's poking fun at something they agree with.

Yeah. Outrage-the-far-righters-for-clicks is a growing market in Sweden. The downside is that it's hard for outsiders to tell it's satire, so it just keeps confirming everyone's ideas that Sweden is a collapsed hellhole of a state where everyone gets mugged and/or raped by immigrants daily.
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>>47938745
4chan is just /pol/, the other boards are merely extensions of it. There's no where you can run.
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>>47938770
ITALY

POWERHOUSE


Oh god, you've made my morning!
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>>47938770
Britain started it, and by God they're going to finish the job of civilizing those savages, even if their most prosperous ex-colony has to force them to do so with a dozen carriers parked in the channel.
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>>47938778
Will be interesting to see this change when the oil keeps getting scarcer. If transport gets too expensive, large industries will begin homeshoring again.
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Now I have to pay stupid amounts of customs fees if I order anything from Amazon UK.

Fuck you, you teethless monkeys. Think about others sometimes.
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>>47938784
>implying they don't do pretty well for themselves
>eighth largest mixed economy in the world
>exports out the arse
Full retard

>>47938796
Not thinking about others is how we got into this mess
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>>47938796
48% of the voters wanted to stay in. You can't blame the entire country.
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>>47938799
>Not thinking about others is how we got into this mess
Who cares about how it all began, we are here now.
>>47938800
I will, since you left anyway.
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>>47938799
>implying India isn't set up for success while Italy is in a constant recession

Fuller retard.
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>>47938796
Not yet. Between now and then is a wonderful time of crashed pound value. You'll be able to import shit to your heart's content.
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>>47938813
SUPERPOWER BY 2020
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>>47938794
>If transport gets too expensive, large industries will begin homeshoring again.
Moving back towards your market won't do shit if said market can't afford your products anymore. And since you still need to transport your resources to your production locations, you can't escape rising transportation costs.
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>>47938726
>>47938756
I'm not even talking about European Laws and british involvement in Brussel lawmaking... What the fuck is your attention span, guys?

I was talking about how the brits as part of the allied forces have played a big role in what kind of laws were drafted up for Germany after WW2. And that includes the law that Erdogan used to sue the german comedian.
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>>47938800
Thats not how democracy works. Everyone takes the blame for what the majority votes for.
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>>47938800
Almost 2/3 of Scotland. The capital voted nearly 75% stay. Think about that for a moment. The only way you'd get margins like that on any other topic is if you'd asked something like "Should murder be considered a crime? Yes or No?".
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>>47938824
Or it's a people's republic doing the voting.
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>>47938472
What are you talking about? I don't think I've ever used guy except as a masculine.
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>>47938824
>Large sectors actively getting more EUbux than the rest of the country.
>Wanting to remain in the EU

surprise surprise.
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>>47938813
> Yes, Your Highness England, even if we have a stronger economy and a stronger military than you do, in your dream "British Empire 2: Empire Harder" we will play the role of the subservient colony and do whatever you want.
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>>47938821
I don't give a rat's asshole what you're talking about, I'm still talking about the big picture.
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>>47938822
Then assuming you are American, why did you vote Obama into power, anon? Why did you make that choice and how do you plan to make up for it? It's your responsibility and the blame's on you along with every other American for letting him come into power.
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>>47938824
Bullshit. You'll get margins like that whenever the interests of 'the Cities' and 'the Country' clash. In our modern globalizing world, metropolitan cities are closer to each other than they are to the hinterland in their own states. This is a recipe for exactly these kinds of clashes.
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>>47938837
You know what, at this point, if the scots secede, I'd welcome them with open arms.
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>>47938824
Asking about murder would push the margins much higher, you silly, exaggerating, goose.

75% would be more like "should prostitution be illegal" in highly socially conservative areas.

Trying to compare this to murder just makes you look dumb.
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>>47938843
Last I checked Obama did nothing wrong.
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>>47938836
Really? Where you from?
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>>47938603

You mean, we'll pay just as much and have just as open borders, but we won't get to have a say?
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>>47938838
>Indians
>not a subservient, caste based people by nature

>>47938843
Not him, but I'm sorry. It's my and every other American's fault for not working hard enough to convince others to not vote for Obama.
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>>47938850
What do you think you're doing, saying things like that on 4chan?
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>>47938854
>Not him, but I'm sorry. It's my and every other American's fault for
mfw

>>47938859
>What do you think you're doing, saying things like that on 4chan?
trolling
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>>47938852
If you think wanting to be in the European trade group means needing to adopt the open borders I think you just drank the EU coolaide.
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>>47938850
>Hitler did nothing wrong.
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>>47938840
So when i'm having a conversation about something at best tangentially related with someone, you just step in between us and declare: "HURR DURR EU IS BAD THO HURR".

Take your meds, man.
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>>47938859
You're assuming im not just saying something contrarian to gather a lot of you (you)s.
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>>47938844
Every single fucking regional authority in Scotland reported wins for Stay, from the cities to the islands. The most contentious margin was 4%: and yes, it was the "hinterland" where it was closest but in no locality was the trend ever reversed.
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>>47938850
> DINDU NUFFIN
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>>47938847
> VOTE FOR THE FREEDOM OF THE UNITED KINGDOM
> Fuck Scotland
> Then maybe fuck Wales
It sure seems a United Kingdom. Are you by any chance English, sir?
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>>47938508
Kill yourself then. It's easy and costless and no one will miss you, and like youml mentioned, it wouldn't matter if they did.

Or pussy out because you're a spewer of empty rhetoric and mindless idiotic pseudophilosophical defeatism, without any true comprehension of the term "meaningless"
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>>47938824
Strongest Left areas voted to stay in.

Not a big surprise.
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>>47937676
I am glad for the UK. I hope they still honour the oldest alliance still in effect in the world if spain tries to conquer us, if they leave the EU.
And lets be frank here, the rest of Europe is fed up with it as well, its just Europeans trying to preserve the status quo instead of being loud like Americans. Keeping Europe united and peaceful is good and all, but the EU slowly transformed into a bureaucratic monster.

Now its the right time, Europe is far from being Islamic, we can still wake up.

Now its the time to reinvigorate good healthy nationalism.
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>>47938690
>not a frog-faced public school cunt

>implying all the leaders on the remain side weren't public schoolboys
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>>47938854
>Indians
>not a subservient, caste based people by nature
Yes, and they're now stronger than your brits. Join with them, and enjoy being shitted down the throat, since you're now the weakest state.
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>>47938868
Couple the regular Remain camp with the section of the Scottish populace (44,7%, was it?) that wants to stick it to the English, and yeah, you'll get that kind of result.
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>>47938454
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>>47938843
Obama's been alright. He's certainly done better than any of his competitors would have.
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>>47938663
Assuming we don't make the same deal Norway did. If we do, then we're still fucked.
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>>47938871
German. I'd love to have the Scots in the EU, just to spite Britain. And preferably just let the wankers drown in their own piss until they sell their land piece by piece to our new Scottish brothers, who then proclaim the United Republic of Scottland and assorted Islands.

All of this just to spite the UKIP fuckers. Ah well, a man can dream...
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>>47938880
India was, at one point, ruled by a thousand brits.
Let that sink in.
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>>47938259

>Anon, the powers that be have been using them damn immygunts as a scapegoat

So the army of openly invading brown people is not a bad thing?
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>>47938873
I'd have killed myself already, but that's too much work.
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>>47938878
Yes, but Leave also had fucking David Icke.

>>47938892
Sounds good
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>>47938871
Not him, but I've never really understood the reason for the name "United Kingdom" when the reality seems closer to "England and a bunch of people who fucking hate the English".
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>>47938880
>Join with them, and enjoy being shitted down the throat, since you're now the weakest state.
Eurocucks genuinely believe the only way to trade internationally is to form a political union.
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>>47938871
>maybe fuck Wales
Always fuck Wales.

>>47938874
You do realize that the ONLY political parties in the UK that came out officially in favor of Brexit were the far right, don't you? And that just because you're not far right, or because you're college-educated, or because you live in a city doesn't mean you're some kind of leftist, don't you?

This has never been a left-versus-right issue, and if anything the Scottish results are the clearest indication of that.
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>>47938892

Yeah gunna be interesting if NIreland and Scotland try to leave England.
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>>47938893
Brits had an empire then Anon. Not so much anymore. Now all they have is a shitty island that they share with neighbors that hate them.
Let that sink in.
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>>47938725
See, that's part of why I voted Remain.
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>>47938903
>Always fuck Wales.
Having recently visited Wales I can wholely agree.

So fucking beautiful.
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>>47937725
This is not accurate
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>>47938910
That was the initial starting point they ended up building an empire on. Let that sink in.
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>>47938912
Anon, that's forbidden love.
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>>47938912
The place or the women?
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>>47938871
But Wales voted to leave too.
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>>47938907
Not if, when. There is already talk of a second referendum for scot independence.
The EU uncertainty if they left was one of the biggest reasons the union side won.
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>>47938754
>one guy on /tg/ is wrong, and therefore all of /tg/ agrees with him
Are you trolling or just retarded?
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>>47938892
>forest nigger getting uppity
Don't get too excited there, Hanz. We put you down twice before, and we'll do it a third time.
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>>47938910
We still own about 7 times more land area overseas than we do in the British Isles.

True most of this is sparsely populated and usually for good reason but it's still something.
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>>47938899
But, it's always been that way. From the time before the Romans, through the time of the Anglo-Saxons and Anglo-Danes, through the Norman Conquest into modernity.
It's always been a loose collection of people who hate each other.
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>>47938921
Honestly I would have to say both are beautiful.

Language is also beautiful. Fucking brutal sounding and incomprehensible but beautiful all the same.
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>>47938907

More interesting see Italy, Greece, Spain and Portugal leave the EU.

>>47938927

If there was a sliver of land connecting the Island to mainland Europe, Germany would have stomped you.

>>47938934

And in that conflict created a very unique country.
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>>47938754

You seem to be of the impression that /tg/ blindly follows /pol/, when we're mostly parodying and taking the mickey of cunts like you.
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>>47938925
I've seen this sentiment repeated enough that I don't think it's just one guy. Besides, given how close /tg/ is to /pol/ in terms of political beliefs, it's really not that surprising that hardcore reactionary beliefs are the norm here.
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>>47938922
You don't understand what the UK is like, anon. There's only one constant, and that is fuck Wales.

>>47938924
Last I checked that was Salmond, and it was "within 30 months". I hope Sturgeon realizes that if it's to be "timely" it has to happen much sooner, as in the next 6-12 months.
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>>47938851
South of England.
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>>47938943
>And in that conflict created a very unique country.

Oh yes, I agree. Also it made the English Language quite a fascinating creature to study.

Like shit, go look up how the word "curfew" entered the language.
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>>47938943
>you.
Nah senpai, t. American

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNqFJCypk7c
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>>47938950
Everyone talks shit about Wales (much like everyone talks shit about everyone else in the UK) but nobody actually wants them to leave. Where have you pulled that ridiculous notion from?
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>>47938953
Ah. Well. Might be a North thing then.
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>>47938902
So, >>47938747 was proposing what? To join up to pick flowers?

>>47938919
So, basically, USA, Canada, India and all the other states will submit to the might of the UK even though they have stronger everything. You're not going to fight people with sharpened sticks one at a time anymore anon.
Let that sink in.

>>47938922
With EU gone, and maybe Scotland gone, who will be England's scapegoat?

>>47938899
Delusions of grandeur anon. The name United Kingdom, and the whole brexit bullshit.

>>47938892
Amen to that.
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>>47938965
>who will be England's scapegoat?
Wales
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>>47938946
> when we're mostly parodying and taking the mickey of cunts like you.
That may have been true at one point, but just look at any particular issue and you'll see that /tg/ and /pol/ are largely indistinguishable. Take for instance "cultural marxism." Both /tg/ and /pol/ are convinced that it's a massive issue, that it's taken complete control of western society, and that it's going to bring about the destruction of the white race. Sure, maybe a few people parrot the idea to mock it, but it's repeated enough that it's become pretty much just accepted fact here.
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>>47938965
>So, >>47938747 (You) was proposing what? To join up to pick flowers?
It's more of a cultural thing, senpatchi

>>47938899
>when the reality seems closer to "England and a bunch of people who fucking hate the English"
England and a bunch of people who fucking hate their betters*
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>>47938962
Thinking about it, I think you might be right.
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>>47938718

We share enough with the Americans, the big difference is the Americans have a lot more hegemonic authority than the British. If the Americans say one thing and the British say another, I warrant the commonwealth will go with the Americans.
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>>47938977

As far as /tg/ are concerned, it's an issue unrelated to /tg/ that /pol/ immigrants from your shitty board just won't shut up about.
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>>47938690
>The best part is whatever regulations the EU comes up with we still have to follow to do business with them, and we have no say in them.
>I have to follow other state's trade rules when doing biz with them. Oh the outrage!
Thanks, campaign Obvious.
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>>47938824
Of course Scotland wanted to remain. If the UK voted remain then when Scotland tries to breakaway again (likely to happen) they would have an easier time negotiating with the EU as a new client country, including the possibility of joining Schengen. They would still have road access to the EU (Scotland to France via England) instead of having only having sea access. Now they will have to be part of either a exit negotiation or have to renegotiate with England for road access when they break away.

Northern Ireland will now probably look at joining the rest of Ireland. The Sinn Féin has already started making come hither eyes at them.
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>>47938965
>who will be England's scapegoat?
EU ad Scotland for forcing England out and abandoning them when things get tough respectively
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>>47938965
> With EU gone, and maybe Scotland gone, who will be England's scapegoat?

They'll still use them as scapegoats. Since when does your scapegoat need to make sense? The whole point of having one is to avoid rational thought. If you require rational thought when picking your scapegoat, you may as well just use rational thought to actually try to solve the problem.
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Tell a Eurocuck it's better from a commercial standpoint, and he'll willingly vote to stay in an undemocratic bureaucracy that's sacrificing his wellbeing in order to fund the creation of a bureaucratic upper class.
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>>47938958
This.

Everybody hates everybody.

England hates the sheep fucking, sheep shagging, leek eating Welsh.
England hates the potato-chomping, drunk as fuck Irish retards
England hates the deep fry everything, whiskey swilling Jackobite Scottish
England hates the tax dodging, race hogging, cousin fucking Manx
England hates the North/South, Red Rose/White Rose, clog wearing/flat cap wearing English

Fucking English they ruined England.

And they all hate each other and us and themselves for similar reasons and the only thing we hate more if if some foreign retard sticks their dick in our feud. Then we all decided we hate them more for not being British enough.

Which seems to be where a lot of the resentment towards the EU came from.

And we wouldn't have it any other way because we're all one big dysfunctional family and family is important.
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>>47938958
Never said or even implied anyone wants them to leave, just fuck them. Fuck the English too for that matter, and the Geordies, and the Londoners, and the Irish, etc. Hell, fuck most of the other Scots.

The Queen is fine, though. Wouldn't want to be rude.
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>>47938965
>With EU gone, and maybe Scotland gone, who will be England's scapegoat?

You could just blame the Welsh like the good old days.
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>>47938899
Because when they came up with the name Scotland donated their King to England. James the VI and I the best.
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>>47938927
This may come as a surprise to you, but no German in their right mind would want another war. That's horribly inefficient. Instead, if britbong destruction was the end goal, we could bleed the UK dry economically and let it tear itself apart, like the West did with the Soviets.

That being said, i don't think we're there yet. The UK is already loosing triple a status with S&P, so from here it's basically one slippery slope and the UK becomes a silly banana republic with nice history and shit weather.
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>>47938994
New Scottish independence referendum and Irish unification have already been mentioned by community leaders, so yeah.

Will probably just be England and Wales left.
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>>47939005
>sheep fucking, sheep shagging

These are the same thing.

Also, the story behind the Irish being sheep-fuckers is hilarious.
Getting caught stealing a sheep was a capital punishment. Getting caught fucking a sheep was just fines. Ergo, would-be sheep-thieves claimed they were just having sex with the sheep, not stealing them.
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>>47939030
We deserve one another.

We will love to hate and hate to love each other till the sun grows cold and the stars go out.
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>>47938899
>I've never really understood the reason for the name "United Kingdom"

Because it was literally a united kingdom. It was two kingdoms united in a personal union under one monarch (of a Scottish dynasty as it happens) who was king of both kingdoms, which formally united into one polity.
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>>47939026
And what will you do when the EU starts tumbling down as other countries disgruntled with their memberships decide to leave as well?
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>>47937849
as objective as i can:
stay: business as usual
leave: dont be slave to brussels, can still do all the thigns you used to be able to do and more...BUT dont have acces to german's credit card, and you have to be a big boy on your own. if shit goes down in your country, only you can pull it up (and coutry's which are your mates.) upside: if all the others go down, you plummet less-hard.
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>>47939034
Sorry I lost concentration.

It should have been sister shagging.
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So if Scotland leaves, are they going to crown a King of Scotland, or are they abandoning the "monarchy" part of "constitutional monarchy" altogether?

Unless of course I'm dumb and there already is one.
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>>47939026
>This may come as a surprise to you, but no German in their right mind would want another war.
Please, their entire race are nothing more than bloodthirsty lemmings, itching to dash their sons and husbands against the rock that is the civilized world. Once a forest nigger, always a forest nigger.
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>>47939055
>implying millennia of Roman-descended influence and labor-saving technology haven't de-fanged the wolves of the Black Forest
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>>47939052

During the last referendum, they wanted the Queen to remain as Queen of Scotland, but as a separate country. So The Queen would be queen of England and Scotland, even though both would be separate countries.
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>>47939042
That's the beauty of it. The UK did something brave, that much I'll give them. In my opionion it was also retarded, but brave.

But the EU will see to it, that the UK bleeds for this and bleeds badly. So badly that noone can deny that it was a shit move to leave.

This will keep all relevant export nations from leaving - the others don't want to leave because they can not afford it.

Personally I can't wait to see how well the EU will work without the UK bitching at every turn.
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>>47939063
>Roman-killers
>trusting them
>ever

476 WORST YEAR IN HISTORY
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>>47939042
EU needs another fresh start and in this the UK is helping out.


Europe needs a different approach, its nations are still powerful and relevant, and the United States as its son would far better appreciate a stronger even if more dived Europe.

And I mean, the European Empires have fallen and transformed, Europe still needs to cling together, there are far more pressing issues with Russia looming and Islamists.
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>>47939071
Really?

Norway left and they seem fin.

If we do fine Denmark will probably leave in the next 10 years.
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>>47939071
I actually fear that scenario.
Being permanently married to the Debitorranian nations.
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>>47937849
>Stay
Continue working as a major leader in a "unified" Europe, maintain all previously negotiated trade agreements, somewhere between 15 and 55% of the laws are in some way shaped by negotiation with the EU, a relatively small amount of money goes into the communal pot, don't have to agree with UKIP.

>Leave
Don't have to deal with minor laws and bureaucracy outside the British government, still have to renegotiate trade agreements with Europe after they lapse in two years, no longer have a direct hand in shaping EU policies, have a small amount of money that won't be going to the EU to squander on things closer to home instead of abroad, do something that UKIP wants.

Basically it's all about whether you want the security of fucking up as a mutually-supportive group, or the autonomy to fuck it all up on your own. Either way fuckups are likely, and UKIP will still be there in some capacity.
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>>47939075
This.

Free trade deal and mutual protection pact. Thats all anybody wanted.

The Germans and the French were the ones pushing for the 4th Reich. Only they wanted that. Everybody else just seemed to go along with it and resent it and hope that they would change.
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>>47939052
>>47939067
We love the Queen, we just wish the English would unfuck themselves.

Scotland voted to stay in the UK, because SOME of us have some impulse control and can consider the security of our own futures over jingoistic slogans about "control". We were kind of counting on the English to do the same.
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>>47939097
>>47939067
Oh, okay.
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>>47939097
>counting on little englanders to consider security of our future over jingoistic slogans

Bloody hell.
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>>47939055
See, i could call you island ape all day and we would not get anywhere. Germany's fields about 200k soldiers. We're not invading anything with that. We'll just sit here and play this like a game of Monopoly, and you are constantly ending up on our hotels.
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>>47938943
>If there was a sliver of land connecting the Island to mainland Europe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland
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>>47939097
We did do the same.

The easy option would have been to keep in a union that was not to the benefit of Britain but wasn't too detrimental to out right shaft us. Just gnaw for the next century.

As it is we're out of it and our own thing again.

Your welcome.
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>>47938887
>ocelate
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>>47939104
>Island ape
wrong, they don't share our taste for finger foods

t. burger
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So I've been feeling very apprehensive about this. As a student of History, all outcomes seem to aim towards a very messy and nasty few decades ahead. Should I be this worried? Is there any hope everything will pan out peacefully?
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>>47939110

>Your welcome.

What about my welcome?
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>>47939119
By the time mankind sees the real final outcome of all this, you'll have been dead at least five years. Let people who will be alive in the 2100's worry about it, because they're the ones who'll be able to DO anything about it.
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>>47939119
The EU might veto the UK leaving... which would actually be pretty fucking hilarious, after all this bullshit.
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>>47939119
Its going to be alright, and Europe will be better for it.


Europe always seems to burn slowly and explode into full nationalism, what the UK is doing is a blessing, like puncturing a hole in the ballon allowing Europe to deflate into something better instead of going insane Deus vult mode in the near future.
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>>47939134
I don't think they're able to veto an exit. And even if they could, it seems like the EU is going to demand the exit process begins immediately, giving two years for the UK to leave.
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>>47939079
And if Denmark leaves, so will Sweden, if Sweden leaves, so will Finland.
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>>47939134
It's something of a ticking time bomb with a two-year fuse. In two years the present agreements lapse, and suddenly the EU members who stayed all have trade agreements set up and only the UK needs to renegotiate everything. All they need to do is wait to see if the British economy recovers at all, if Scotland votes to leave, etc, and when the time comes to act it's the UK (or what's left of it) who will have to come to them to work out a deal.

Leaving the EU does not put the UK in a position of strength from which to negotiate trade deals and other agreements with a unified Europe. It's taking a temporary financial battering that'll be followed by a long-term slump.
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>>47937860
That's all of them, Anon.
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England has always flirted with fascism. Wonder if this will be a step towards, or away from that.
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>>47939119
Let's just hope the tides of nationalism in Europe are balanced by a good dose of humanitarianism, and a sense of fighting against an idea rather than against some other demonised tribe.

>>47939134
If the EU could veto the decision of a member state to leave, and compel them to stay, it would validate every sovereignty argument immediately and rightly so.
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>>47939135
>nstead of going insane Deus vult mode in the near future.
>implying that's bad
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>>47939162
I know you're being cheeky, but in seriousness have their ever been cases of Deus Vult mode going well? Nazis don't count, before you make that joke.

Let's try to specify a bit, and call Deus Vult mode a great surge of fanatical devotion to an ideology borne out by military action.
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>>47939135
But what if the balloon is filled with gas and Britain is the spark? If anything Brexit seems to be emboldening nationalists in other EU countries.
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>>47939194
Yep. Wilders is already calling for the Netherlands to leave, in view of the success in Britain. (His words, not mine.)
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>>47939161
Sure, because if you're against Europe, you're an evil, genocidal racist.

Keep on demonising a vast spectrum of ideologies, Eurocuck. Your bureaucratic and corporate masters rely on it.
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>>47939212
Same with those National Front fucks in France. Sooner or later a far-right Nationalist is going to be elected into office in a European country and we all know how THAT usually goes.

It ends in two atomic bombs being dropped on the sovereign nation of Japan.
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>>47939216

If Europe isn't united, isn't that just a return to the endless cycle of European Wars that have ravaged the continent since forever?
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>>47939194

Lets just put it this way.

These so called evil Nationalist, are the not far right. They are regular Right.

You dont want to see the true far right far in the future.
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>>47938892
Let the hate flow through you.

you've tried to destroy us three times, Hans, and you fucked up AGAIN.
Must sting
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>>47939234
There's a difference between far right and extremist right. The FN, UKIP and friends are far right. If they were willing to break the laws, re-write the laws, or exercise the use of deadly force they would be considered the "extreme right" in the sense that I think you mean.
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>>47939216
>Sure, because if you're against Europe, you're an evil, genocidal racist.

I implied nothing of the sort.

>Keep on demonising a vast spectrum of ideologies
Pray tell, which ideologies have I demonised by saying that nationalism will hopefully be tempered with humanitarianism?

>Eurocuck
Try again.
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>>47939232
Who the fuck knows? Who says the EU's current course doesn't have us on a fast track to a continent-spanning war?

Don't fucking assume the only two options for Europe are warring states or the undemocratic, bureacratic mess of a union that exists currently.

Europe isn't a switch, it's a fucking continent full of people.
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>>47939232
Of course not. We've evolved beyond that, into a realm of double-entry bookkeeping and globalized trade. We've learned that calculators and spreadsheets can do more lasting harm than bombs or rockets ever could.
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>>47939252
You know why you referenced ominous 'tides of nationalism' that need to be stemmed by the heroic humanitarian, you scaremongering fuck.
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>>47938562
Sounds like you should put down some of Hobes' work m8, feudalism is a shitty system with no accountability
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>>47938252
>The fact that our politicians did not speak up against his misuse of a stupid law speaks bounds of how they value you, your freedom and rights.
That's what you get for having a Civil Law system.
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>We've learned that calculators and spreadsheets can do more lasting harm than bombs or rockets ever could.

Well, that depends on the bomb and your own willingness to get blown up as well.
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Bojo: "We cannot turn our backs on Europe, we are part of Europe".

Did someone just lose a lot of money or something?
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>>47939330
>Did someone just lose a lot of money or something?
Well yes, but that's mainly because economists hate change
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>>47937860
>52%
>a minority
I thought EUnuchs were supposed to be the educated ones.
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>>47939358
It wasn't a majority of the population that voted exited, only ~ 38%.

That's what happens when 25% (mostly youngsters) don't bother voting.
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>>47938977
see
>>47938991

You do know that we like the impirium and shit because it's it's fun to parody. By that same notion /tg/ approves of looting tombs because we like D&D (well some of us like D&D).

/tg/ has consistently weighed in as pretty liberal in the past, and the only reason that has shifted is because of neo-conservatism fighting the sjw-boogyman and the threat of books that alternate him/her in every chapter. The moment tumblr dies down as a fad most right leaning fa/tg/uys will go back to business as usual
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>>47939447
This, it's common to argue more the more you agree, if they are diameteicly opposed you tend to just wave them away.
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>>47938317
That's democracy for you, and lesson 1 in why republics are superior.
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I have this vision of the U.K. Being some bastardized mirror image of Japan in the west, 20 years down the line. Isolationist at heart, with the population aging rapidly without the slightest bit of immigration to balance it out. The economy marching ever downwards; shit was always hard, and leaving the EU certainly didn't help. The people, suicidally depressed, go to their old "culture" for pride, and katana copy pastas extolling the might of the longbow and the ship of the line fill the Internet. The rest of the commonwealth starts treating Britain like the Brits treat their queen: a mascot. And through all this the Brits are still insufferably pleased with all this, like a heroine in a tragedy being proud and edgy about her tragicness.
And the thing is, I think many Brits would welcome this end over any other.
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>>47939407
I won't disagree that remainics are mostly vegetables, but that's hardly Nigel's fault.
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>>47938462
>Are you seriously implying a failing one-size-fits-none confederacy is supposed to be a deterrent to Germany and Japan?
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>>47938698
>someone his happy in Britain
Dear god the end times are upon us
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>>47938252
>There's no debating that
It's almost like you hate fun, anon.
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>>47939247
So... the BNP?
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Reminder that most people who voted Leave are literally stupid.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ9J-dxEgY4
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>>47938635
This is the REAL reason Scotland leaving the UK would be bad. Just think of the union jack without that nice blue field in the back.
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>>47939494
>Isolationist at heart, with the population aging rapidly without the slightest bit of immigration to balance it out.

Yes, because everyone knows all young people are imported from the Sahara. When they hatch they set off in a random direction, but always in a beeline for a pole. The closer to the equator you are the younger you are, and the poles are massive graveyard.
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>>47937864
>>47937882
On one hand I'm actually happy that Britain showed the two fingers to EU, to the left-winged arses running it and decided to go its own way.

On the other hand since I'm Pole, I see that there will be a lot of financial complications if my government won't act as fast as possible...not to mention what happens to my countrymen that work there.

Hoping that it will end well.
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>>47940470
Yeah. But they didn't updated it without the Irish cross when Ireland left, so...
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>>47940756
pretty much this. as a brit, its fucking depressing
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>>47940379
>Vote leave
>Sell my Sterling for gold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSq8ZBdSxNU
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>>47940379
>work in academic lab
>28/28 people voted remain
>were discussing yougov stats
>all get very sad
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>>47940781
Germany is the enemy, lad. The Brits want to keep the comfortable trade relations they've had with the EU, so keeping EU member states happy is in their interest. Giving the foreign workers here a fair shake helps make retaliation by the EU look mean spirited.

Germany is working hard to keep the union together, see Greece, so if anyone will try to punish the UK for leaving it'll be them.
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>>47938575
As a Pole I would be totally OK with this. But I know how things work, so Poland would probably stay "independent" and we would still need visas.
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>>47938877
That alliance sure paid off when they pulled the good ol' ultimatum on our ass in south Africa. I wouldn't be surprised if they simply told us to unfuck ourselves if the Spaniards decided to come strolling in.
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