Pathfinder General /pfg/

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I've literally NEVER played a character with a pet. I should, but I just do not feel like it.

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>>47882350
Roc, absolutely no contest

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>>47882423
Owls a best

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>>47882350
I... had a fruit bat...
But I failed a save against Energy Ball.

>>47882390

Yeah sorry about that, I just wanted to send a strong point without risking me rambling on about semantics.

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>>47882423
>>47882454
>owls

Mah niggas. I raise you an owl-gryphon, though.

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>>47882350

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>>47882455
I am sorry to hear that. RIP.

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>>47882480
I see and save your owl-gryphon and raise you an owl-cat

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Hey, /pfg/! How did your weekend go? Did you have a nice session?

>>47882350
I know it's not actually the best choice, but I love wolves.

Though I do like the big cats now and then.

>>47882526
No. It was more of the same with the group I described here. >>47882335

>>47882480
>>47882519
I think those are both Tressyms, guys.

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>>47882480
So I was going to respond to this post.

And then I hit post and it yelled at me that my file was a duplicate.

Because >>47882519 beat me to posting the Owl cat.

SO INSTEAD HAVE AN OWLBEAR

>>47882350
I actually like having a crow now and then. Clever birds full of grimdark and sass.

>>47882526

Our Kitsune turned into a fox and forgot how to turn back into a human after a night of heavy drinking.

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>>47882526
I had two nice sessions after over a month of canceled ones.

The one where I DM was pretty uneventful, since we had to cut it short, but there was some nice story progression.

My group also started a campaign at level 1 with 10 Mythic Ranks, of which I can tell stories if people want

>>47882556
Pic related

>>47882556
>that image
Did you guys notice the Baby Bestiary is in the trove? Not even in a folder like literally everything else, just sitting there in the root.

>>47882526
It wasn't too bad, spent the session doing RP since half of the party was missing and instead got drunk with the crew of a pirate ship.

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SO! Last thread I asked about a potential iconic character, and was informed that aside from the obvious thing that got people replying, she was very boring. A totally fair assessment, since I was drawing upon a character made for Paizo's Hell's Vengeance AP, and she hadn't gotten fleshed out due to >level 1. So I must pose two questions!

What makes an interesting iconic character, and what level would you say an iconic should be shown to be "iconic" at?

>>47882606

Did you sing any shanties?

>>47882567

Crows and foxes give the best sass.

>>47882639

No, see >>47882580

We're heading to the Inner Sea though! TO TALDOR!

I need some help, /pfg/. I'm sick of GMing. I was desperate for a group and gathered up three friends to play with and decided to use a GMPC to be our fourth. We had agreed to play Iron Gods together and our party was a half-elf bard, human spellslinger wizard, a changeling witch, and an android aegis. The witch player and I have experience from a past group that broke up, while the bard and wizard were completely new to the game. First book went okay, although half the party had a very gimmicky personality. The bard was a metrosexual twink who the player described as "as pop-punk as possible", while the wizard was lulsorandumb. To give an example of the shit he would do, the first thing he did was go to the stables and suck a horse's cock. The witch was the typical changeling on the run from her mom, kinda bland but at least not annoying to deal with. This party would have been fun in a lighthearted game, but I intended for the campaign to be a bit serious and they threw it right out the window. Regarding combat, the bard player didn't even bother looking at what his class does so when it was his turn he just asked me "What do i do?" I was willing to comply for the first few sessions, but it's been about two months and he still refuses to look at what a damn Bard does because "Reading is for nerds". The bard has also attempted to seduce every single female in the game so far including Val before I told him she was 12 years old, and by seduction I mean he just rolls Diplomacy without even trying to set up any kind of buildup. If seduction fails, the wizard tries sexual assault. It's gotten to the point that he has nearly raped many NPCs but got his ass beaten each time. It also doesn't help that I feel like I'm babying the party because my Aegis GMPC does enough damage to take out any threat within three or so rounds.

TL;DR My group is driving me to hate GMing.


Kill their characters, make them create new ones
Any random and shit behavior costs xp

>>47882707
Didn't have to copy and paste my entire post, I linked it up here. >>47882552

>>47882665
Crows do it better, because crows can speak from the start.

tfw ur party's bard does all the work while you meatshield for her and your gunslinger misses every shot, does nothing and then jews you and the bard and the rest of the party out of loot like a shitter

>>47882580
>>47882689

>Kitsune beguiler got drunk and forgot how to human

Aw, cute. But Taldor, huh? Should be smooth sailing-best of luck with the raids and piracy!

>>47882624
6 or 12. Make the character relatable somehow.

>>47882601

Sure! Stories are nice-go right ahead.

>>47882665

Does smug count as sass? Because if it does, I think cats have a strong showing.

>>47882624
>What makes an interesting iconic character?
An iconic should be, well, ICONIC. They should, at a glance, immediately tell what class they are showcasing. A bearded man with a staff for a wizard, a lithe elf with multiple knives for a rogue, a baggy-eyed man with potions and bombs and oils for an alchemist, etc. But on top of being recognizably of a class, they should have physical and personality traits that make them stand out to be something more than just generic. A unique fighting-style or weapon choice, personal trinkets on them that point them to being more than they appear, a personality that might or might not be a standard for the class, etc.

>What level are they?
The original 11 iconics were shown off at levels 1, 6, and 12. I'd say to show off your iconic as a 6th-level character, since it's enough to showcase their abilities that have developed without doing too much all at once.

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>>47882817
Yes it does.

>>47882750
My point still stands

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>>47882526
Innawoods, couldn't make it to session.

Instead worked on my crappy homebrew

Still wating for next round of critique

>>47882795
The party decided before character creation that we would all be Hybrid classes for some reason.

By the time I was told about the campaign, the group had an Aasimar Guardian/Hierophant Warpriest, a Human Guardian Brawler, and a Half-elf Champion Bloodrager, so I came in as an Elf Archmage Arcanist to fill the gap in casters.

We wake up in a dungeon with no gear, in chains that inhibit mythic power and magic with an NPC who breaks us out of our chains. We start trying to get out of the megadungeon we were apparently trapped in, scavenging gear as we go from things we kill.

Our first encounter is against 7 Mythic Wolves and a Mythic Winter Worg, which I found out later was between CR 9 and CR 10. Since I'm the character least reliant on gear, and they were very grouped together, I drop a Mythic Color Spray with Channel Power to force save penalties, knocking every enemy unconscious for almost a minute, and giving our party a chance to Coup de Grace them.

We manage to find some gear, including the Bloodrager's Legendary Item, her Elven Curve Blade, which lets her pump out something to the tune of 75 damage per round as long as she has mythic power to spend

Our DM takes this as a challenge to amp up encounter difficulty, and has undead enemies specifically try to target me in an effort to deny the opportunity to let off more Color Sprays, letting very dangerous Brawler and Bloodrager shred the next few encounters with relative ease while I fly and Mirror Dodge my way out of danger and the Warpriest buffs the party.

As we get close to the exit, we have to get through a short maze lit by glowing sapphires and guarded by two Mythic Minotaurs. They start shredding us in tight quarters, banishing the Bloodrager to a Maze and teleporting away to heal until we finally just unleash the majority of our remaining powers for the day to finish them off. I gather every sapphire in the room, gaining about 18000 gp worth of gems so we can get real gear when we leave.

>>47882526
Players dungeon crawled through a slightly tweaked dungeon shamelessly stolen from a favorite book of mine

>>47883125

Which one?

>>47883149
Society of the Evening Star. The inverted tower, in particular

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Gareth, why do blinklings have such shorter lifespans than regular halflings?

>>47883312
Dog years, anon.

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>>47883312
Because their life is over in the blink of an eye

>>47883312
Does anyone REALLY care what happens to sub-Medium creatures?

>>47883210
>>47883149
Er, Rise of the Evening Star

>>47883372
No.

I have never played Pathfinder before, but my friends are doing a game and I am joining in.
The setting is going to be pretty dark and late Renaissance /early Victorian era. I pitched making a character based on Hunters from Bloodborne, and the DM liked it so much I got free reign to design my own trick weapon and a race(more like a human subtype) with a 10 rp limit.

I feel like I am going to fall into some trap options though since it is 3.5 based and I do not know much about it.

I have designed a weapon that I am fairly happy with(Saw Cleaver) and have been mostly looking at Inquisitor to make the character but feel lost looking at all the options between all the archetypes and have no idea what race options are worth it.
It seems like my pistol will be pretty useless other than being around for flavor as well.

Any tips for building a mostly melee Inquisitor that is fairly nimble or ideas for building a race based on the beast hunters of Bloodborne?
Also should I just give up on the pistol being more than decoration?

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>>47883372

I care.

Specifically, I care about bullying them.

If I use a wand as a non-caster do I have a caster level? Does it default to 1?

Hey guys. Wanted to ask a stupid question...

Friend is gming and asked us to come up with whatever was awesome, silly or stupid using paizo sourcebooks/wiki

...Is there any way to make a monk/fighter who doesn't need vows to ORA? I haven't the foggiest on where to start...

>>47883392
how did that blind her?

>>47883410
Nobody except people with special features uses their own caster level for wands, they're set upon creation of the magic item. Usually it's the minimum - in fact it's pretty much always the minimum unless you get one specially made.

A friend of mine really wants to play a Kineticist. Like, really badly. The game I'm planning will go from about level 2-7. Would said player run into real problems at this point, assuming no one else is playing a full caster or other Tier 1 class?

>>47883423
I mean, you could be a Brawler. Might want to check through most of the core books next time.

>>47883429
Why does this keep getting posted?

>>47883429
Keep posting it.

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>>47883423

Well, Brawler is literally a Monk/Fighter combination class.

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>>47883429
>filename

>>47883451
Someone is being satirical about DSP fans posting I think

>>47883410
Wands default to the minimum caster level necessary to cast the spell it has in it.

For example, a Wand of Cure Light Wounds has CL 1, since a 1st level Cleric could cast Cure Light Wounds, but a Wand of Cure Moderate Wounds has CL 3, since Cure Moderate Wounds is a 2nd level spell, so only casters level 3 or higher can cast it normally.

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>>47883535
Damn. No feats or classes to get around that?

>>47883448
>Would said player run into real problems
No, he should be fine. Despite /tg/'s obsession with saying it's utter shit, it's quite balanced and more importantly it's fun. The biggest tip I can give is to make sure that both you and the player fully understand it, there's a lot of moving parts to it.

>>47883429
Why /do/ you keep posting my cover?

>>47883423
Third for brawler. Martial Flexibility is a lot more fun than it is strong.
Most of the time, if you just need to deal damage, you're just going to want Dedicated Adversary as a free flex-favored enemy.

But you can make a lot of niche combat options possible with martial flexibility. MF into improved grapple with a Dan Bong and pre-errata Brawling armor.

MF into Crane Style while fighting defensively and combat expertise and you can bring your AC up by a good 6 or 7.

Is it really powerful? Not particularly. Is it fun to play with? Yes.

Learn your weapons. Brawlers don't need free hands to flurry, so you can just hold maneuver weapons until you need them.

>>47883595
Totally. There's a Arcane Discovery that lets you use your caster level for wands instead.

>>47883600
Thanks for the advice. I discouraged my players from playing Fighter in particular because they're quite unimaginative and plays Fighters as "move forward, full attack", and that's boring for both me and the player.

>>47883595
This will: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/wizard/arcane-discoveries/arcane-discoveries-paizo/staff-like-wand

And this kinda does: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/magus/magus-arcana/paizo---magus-arcana/wand-mastery-su

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>>47883372
That's approaching dragon logic and you know it.

>>47883595
Wizards can get around it with the Staff-Like Wand Arcane Discovery, but you need to be 11th level and have Craft Staff

>>47883609
It's good art

>>47883629
>>47883631
>>47883645
This would all be a lot more helpful if I wasn't playing a Fighter who thinks he's a gish because he has max ranks in UMD.

I mean, it's very helpful for my magus that I'm working on next, but not so helpful for what I'm doing now.

>>47883680
Just stick to stuff that doesn't need to scale like buffs and CC.

>>47882350
I am currently playing a hunter with a giant orchid mantis companion. This isn't as beefy as I'm used to, but druid/rangers have a lot of defensive buffs plus use of teamwork feats and superior movement makes for a hardy and versatile character.

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>>47883735
Forgot the pic.

>>47883680
Wands of Enervation don't need to be above their minimum caster level

>>47883680
Yeah, this >>47883723

Take wands of Haste and stuff. Guarantee you'll be appreciated if you don't have someone that can do it instead, and if you do, they can stop using those spells (since you have them covered) and focus on something else.

>>47883753
It looks like it would be at home in A Bug's Life

>>47883723
>>47883754
>>47883767
Well then, time to read through the full caster guides for good lists of buffs and debuffs. Thanks anons.

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>>47883609

How much shit will I eat if I take Master Craftsman and Craft Magic Arms and Armor if I want to make a tony stark Warder?

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>>47882624
An Iconic should be pertinent to the class, and show off something perhaps a bit unique to the class or archetype. A good Iconic should be an exemplar of mechanics and fluff fitting as well as possible.

After all, many classes or mechanics require a certain personality or mindset. I'm sure you understand if I mention "harbinger". Or a Dread.

Likewise, the mechanics themselves can influence the character much like the character itself can lead to certain mechanics. Fullcasters are often well known for thinking they can do it all on their own - in no small part because for the most part they're right. Experienced characters may not be afraid to ask a contact or partymember who can handle something well for them, but for anything but "friend's known specialty" they'll probably FIRST think in terms of their own capabilities and see if they can figure it out within the purview of their 'build'.

>>47883971
Master Craftsman doesn't actually work as written. For instances lets say if you take Master Craftsman for Craft Armor, and then Craft Magic Arms & Armor. You can't make both magic weapons & armor, only armor, as you can only use Craft Armor to make magic items and Craft Armor can only make magic armor.

The feat itself, by RaW is really really bad. You spend two feats to do less than half of what a crafter can do for one. Way less than half if you use it for Craft Wondrous.

>>47883971
Considering you're a Warder, not much but still a good amount.
You could try instead playing either an Aegis, or perhaps an Artisan if you are allowed DDS in addition to DSP

>>47883903
I'm...not? I was curious, not mad.

If I want to play a Wizard with a Bonded Staff, how screwed am I before I can take Craft Staff?

>inb4 Wizards are never screwed

>>47884051
Not much. The Arcane Bond being a magic item doesn't really matter much.

>>47884018
>>47884014
That sucks. I don't really like the aegis, and initiator soul maneuver progression isn't that good. I guess I have to drop the battle. I could blacksmith angle.I could use a profession skill(Blacksmith) to craft them both, right?

>>47884051
Well, you start with a masterwork quarterstaff, which is slightly useful in rustydagger shanktown granted I am unsure if for it to be a staff still counts as a quarterstaff or not. I could be wrong
You still get that free spell per day, but the staff is also a bit of a liability if it ever gets broken, and takes really long to come into its own.

Unless you plan on MCing or PrC, its generally better to take a Familiar over a bonded item.

>>47884118
>I could blacksmith angle.I could use a profession skill(Blacksmith) to craft them both, right?
Technically no. With Profession Blacksmith it allows you to take the feat then craft nothing. Because the rules are dumb.

>>47883312
A halfling fucked a dog, and your only question is their lifespan?

>>47884118
>I could blacksmith angle.I could use a profession skill(Blacksmith) to craft them both, right?
not unless your GM decides to be nice to you, but by RaW no it doesn't.

>>47883600
It has a very low optimization floor, and a low ceiling as well.

He needs to understand the class VERY well to be of use, but the 3pp archetypes in Porphyra can make up for it quite well.

>>47884136
Well shit, that really sucks.

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>>47884164
There there anon. With luck some other anon my decide to make an Initiating Archetype for the Artisan, or perhaps come Spherecaster version of the Bladecaster to meld with Armorist

I just might once I finish Blood Reaver and some other stuff

>>47884118
Profession (Blacksmith) is for civilian metalcraft. Nails and horseshoes and shit.

>>47884199
Are his eyes pointing in different directions?

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>>47884242
>SPHERES
>ART

>>47884140

An *intelligent* dog, that could voice consent.

Wouldn't you take the knot, if you could?

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>>47884276
Did someone say spheres art?

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>>47884242
>>47884276
>>47884307

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>>47884277
That's a special kind of gay.

>want to use mithral current
>don't want to be a bushi

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>>47884368
then be a Rubato

>>47884368
Traits or "clans" I can't remember what they're called.

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>>47883321

Blink dogs had no defined lifespan in AD&D 2e, or D&D 3.X.

Bloodforge is a port of D&D 3.0 Bastards and Bloodlines, and copied even that book's aging tables.

Blink dogs in Pathfinder were given a lifespan of ~75 years, which is a departure from their undefined lifespan in D&D.

Halflings have longer lifespans than humans in both D&D 3.X and Pathfinder.

Thus, it makes no sense for the maximum possible age of a blinkling to be less than that of a blink dog or a halfling.

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I made some corrections to my homebrew Martial Discipline, /pfg/
I'd appreciate some more feedback.

Special thanks to Forrest for checking it out and dropping some input.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EtAfFqS8MEY1riV9MgCjHkoYY_ZWQ-rpLPQlrt1oB-E/edit?usp=sharing

>>47884451
It makes sense if you think about them as an unstable hybrid. They might be genetically able to breed, but certain quirks that might not exist in either species might come to the forefront. It's the same reason why Ligers in real life (and Muls/Half-Dwarves in the Dark Sun setting) are larger and bulkier than either parent.

Is Carrion Crown any good?

>>47884452
This foxboy sure failed to be cute, majestic, cool or whatever else he wanted to be.

>>47884772
Dorky foxguy is kinda great though as a result

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>>47884780
Not even having a fluffy tail...

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>>47884772
We can't all be winners.

>>47874732
U WOT MAET

>>47884772
Look at the the dice.
He's obviously a skinny nerd LARPing while playing D&D. I bet those fox ears are fake.

>>47884861
Duergar who dumped Cha?

>>47884861
[ego whip intensifies]

Unsworn Shaman seem really versatile. Being able to get Craft Wondrous item and Brew Potion on off-day without wasting actual feat slot. Can switch to any metamagic they want on daily basis.

And by RAW, they get 14 Hex naturally without any feat investment.

>>47884900
>U WOT MAET

YOU HEARD HIM.

GIVE A SYLPH AND HE WILL MAKE IT LEWD.

>>47882526
>First session got cancelled because the DM was going to a wedding
>The second I couldn't make it because I had to work

They're both at pivotal plot moments as well

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Have you ever used lycanthropy in a session, or had to deal with it? How did that go?

>>47884990
I've used it as a plot device before

>>47884861
Low Charisma doesn't mean you're not cute.
A mob boss can be ugly as hell but still super charismatic. Low CHA just mean you spill spagetthi often.

>>47885015
It means you can't be trusted to dress yourself though, otherwise Int would be the skill for Disguise.

>>47885028

Now I want to play a huge dork with negative CHA and terrible fashion sense.

>>47884990
Awful

One villager changed and vanished during the night, the party chased it until eventually they corned it in a root cellar.

After killing it they all agreed that it probably bit more villagers, and the best course of action was to slaughter the entire town. So they did.

>>47884990
It was utterly nonsensical. The Kitsune got hit by lycantrophy from a werefox.

Granted it was a silly campaign involving a ghost merchant caravan, the cave of wanting (nobody wanted to enter despite the DM's insistence), the hobgoblin miracle worker who makes crappy miracles, and the giant who plays bagpipes.

>>47885028
Disguise is also use for acting / pretending not to be out of place.

In other word, not spilling spaghetti in public.

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>>47884972
I-I MEAN, ALRIGHT

>>47885100
>hair not a wispy blue
REEEEEE

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>>47885100

You call that an image? It hardly shows any of the good bits!

>>47885134
SUE ME
QANON'S NOT AN ARTIST AND SHE'S TOO POOR TO AFFORD TO HIRE ONE

Is there a Bard Archetype that gives a familiar?

How do you go from concept to class? How do players usually view the inclusion of custom classes?

Can I put Shotgun on Ioun Wyrd? It is a construct, so I could modify it with shotgun right..?

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>>47885151

The real question is what do you want her banging?

>tell players I want an "absolute shit show" of a game
>3d6 in order
>15x WBL
>free leadership
>only NPC classes

It was fun

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>>47885151

>>47885154
Duettist. it stack with Sound Striker if you want double blasting fun

>>47882350
>Mfw DM decided we start with 4 traits and the more traits feat gives 4
Hooray for starting with over 10K gp at level 4 while having a plus 12 to hit and doing 1d8+6 twice a round

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But why did Gareth do blinklings instead of one of the other Bastards and Bloodlines races?

Does Gareth like dog bestiality?

>>47885179
Blinklings, obviously.

>>47885252
iirc they had art for it and he had to use said art.

>>47885091
Which is a complete overlap with Bluff. Disguise as a skill use happens before the fact, even if it's only tested at the moment people see it.

>>47885206
Follow-up question: Does Wordstrike require an attack roll, a save, or is it auto-hit?

>>47885151
You could probably just ask. You bring us tons of shit, I'm sure some drawfag around here would make a proper sylph of you in thanks.

>>47885310
Word Strike is auto-hit.

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>>47885274
"Dogpeople race! They come from from mortals and hound archons mating, 'kay?"

There you go. Furry, but not bestial.

>>47885392
Enough with the Awoo Races!

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>>47885405

Fuck you, awoo!

>>47885309

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/other-rules/social-conflicts#TOC-Disguise

> Disguise Is More Than Visual: Though the skill focuses on the visual aspects of disguise that a character prepares, later rules (such as the vocal alteration spell) have made it clear that there are other aspects, including voice, mannerisms, and phrasing. The trick is to distinguish between the use of the Bluff and the Disguise skills. Generally, Bluff checks cover telling actual lies to support a disguise, whereas Disguise checks cover the other aspects, such as imitating mannerisms and speech.

>>47883312
Do you want a poor attempt at a fluff justification, the honest answer, or the honest answer after I'm done with this alcohol?

>>47885252
See >>47885274. At the time we were told to keep as many of the names as possible even if we ended up reinterpreting everything else.

>>47885388
I think I may have found my build for an upcoming campaign that already has a Ranger, Wizard, Cleric, and Brawler.

>>47885434
>or the honest answer after I'm done with this alcohol?

Gareth, you need to stop hitting the juice.

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>>47885434
Gareth I am concerned for you.

>>47885458
Brah this is the first time I've drank in three and a half weeks.

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>>47885198

>>47885151
I may be no drawfag but I've hooked you up with a lot of sylphs to choose from.

>>47885449
Just be caution that d20pfsrd haven't update the errata'ed weird word yet. The current version work similar to Sonic Scorching Ray.

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>>47885507

>>47885449
Wordstrike is fun. I destroyed enemy caster spell component pouch with it limitless range autohit attack.

>>47885507
IT'S TRUE AND YOU ARE BELOVED FOR IT

BUT CONSIDERING THE TOPIC AT HAND WAS "CAN QANON BE A WAIFU", THE THINLY-VEILED SELF INSERT SEEMED APPROPRIATE

>>47885523
Where is the errata'ed version?

Yo DSP guys, what are some actual examples of innate alchemical properties for the autoloader magazine? Shit like bolts that do 1 fire damage?

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I hope nobody notices that I only make pale orc characters.

>>47885558
http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fz#v5748eaic9t4f

> Change the text of weird words to the following “At 6th level the bard can start a performance that is always a standard action to speak up to one word per 4 bard levels laden with sonic energy. Each word deals 4d6 points of sonic damage as a ranged touch attack with a range of 30 feet. The bard adds his charisma modifier on damage rolls with weird words. Multiple words that strike the same target stack into a single powerful attack, applying energy resistance and bonuses on damage rolls only once. The bard can target all words at the same or different targets, but he unleashes all words simultaneously. Each word costs 1 round of bardic performance.” This change will be reflected in future errata.

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>>47885618
I'm partial to greens myself.

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What's your favorite gestalt combo, /pfg/?

>>47885649
What the fuck happened to my picture

>>47885545
Is that what you look like in real life, QANON?

>>47885632
That's not bad, but the increased damage against objects will be missed.

>>47885670
Someone else has it, I think. Hope it wasn't anything too bad.

>>47885671
YES COMPLETE WITH POINTY EARS AND SWORLS YOU HAVE CRACKED MY SECRET

>>47885649
Factotum ("Dilettante") / Psion

>>47885545
You're already our waifu.

>>47885649

Hey /pfg/, how would your character's story change if they had a fully-loaded M1911?

>>47885649
Investigator/Wizard. You can do anything you want.

>>47885712
Instead of chasing (and failing to catch) the antipaladin he would have shot him I guess

>>47885712
The thieves would have shot him last time he got pickpocketed

>>47885672
Wordstrike is the same. Only Weird Word was changed.

>>47885670
That happens sometimes when two files are posted at the exact same time across boards, iirc. Hilarity happens when red boards' stuff shows up in blue boards.

>>47885741
Oh I misread it. Well that is a bit disappointing.

I'm going to be GMing Kingmaker soon, any tips from people with experience in this AP?

>>47885649
Barbarian and Rogue.
>Sneeki beeki liek up on some nigga
>Sneak attack with a (normally)Huge Bastard Sword while enlarged, and have a wand of lead blades and power attacking
>Turns out the guy only had 12 HP, was some peasant in disguise.
Had a good laugh at that one

>>47885649
Hilariously considering, it's Augmented Blade War Soul//Gunsmoke Mystic.

>>47885434
>Do you want a poor attempt at a fluff justification, the honest answer, or the honest answer after I'm done with this alcohol?

All the answers.

I am gonna come out and say it. I don't like Gestalt. I am unsure why so many people are obsessed with it and what they think it really adds to the game. It gives many characters far too broad of a skill set and, in my eyes, often does not allow for separate characters to shine in their specializations as too many people can do the same things causing overlap. I don't know, that may just be me, but the only time I ever consider it is for groups so small they need more bases covered.

>>47884900
Hey QANON, do you take requests?

>>47885829
Cuckold the players as hard as you can using the fossegrim.

>>47885938
Yeah, in theory it's for making semi-viable concepts actually viable but 90% of the time I see it getting used to cram yet more cheese into a functional character.

>>47885829
Homebrew the shit out of it. There are a lots of empty boring hex and the campaign has a lot of hex crawl...

So turn those empty hex into a meaningful one. Also read through all 6 books and leaving clue to foreshadow the BBEG a bit early. The only clue the game give you is a dead unicorn in book 2 (at that point, most player can't even succeed to knowledge check to learn about BBEG).

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>>47885712
Well it would be a massive downgrade from what he's currently using in terms of range, armor penetration, muzzle velocity, rate of fire and area of effect.

>>47885941
TAKE THEM? SURE!

FULFILL THEM? YOUR RESULTS MAY VARY, ASK YOUR DOCTOR IF CIALIS IS RIGHT FOR YOU.

>>47885938
Lots of people like it because it's FUN [/spoiler

How easy is it to buy an AR-15 in Golarion? I'm looking to get some WMDs in my game.

>>47885938
People just like building characters. I don't even think the playing is important to gestalters.

>>47885670
It became patriotic.

>>47885980
Well shit, they were already fulfilled. I was going to ask if you could put Waves of Thought in the trove since it wasn't there before, but it's already there! Thanks QANON!

>>47885712
He'd be even more like Big Boss.

>>47886005
Literally impossible, they don't exist, but I'm sure you knew that already, you little baitmeister you.

>>47886005
>AR 15
>WMD
REEEEEEEEE

>>47886026
MAKING YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE BEFORE YOU'VE EVEN FALLEN ASLEEP

THAT'S THE QANON DIFFERENCE

>>47886005
>ASSAULT WEAPON
>ASSAULT WEAPON
>GHOST GUN
>SHOULDER THING THAT GOES UP
>HIGH CAPACITY MAGAZINE

Thankfully the gods of Golarion have instituted powerful and widespread ASSAULT WEAPON BANS to keep people from getting such weapons

Please ignore the wizard calling down meteors and demons in the distance.

>>47886050
My dreams include me getting blowjobs. Get to it.

>>47886005
Wizards of Mass Dazing.

>>47886064
Everyone knows QANON only gives blowpops.

>>47886064
Rood.

>desperate to get into game
Hey, does anyone need a player? pls

>>47886064
AH, AH, ANON

IT'S TRADITIONAL TO BUY THE LADY DINNER FIRST.

>>47886115
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/35053/oustomia-pathfinder-living-world

>>47886163
The blowjob gives you your dinner.

>>47886063
>Not having an Assault Rifle 15(That's how many babies it kills per second by virtue of existing) that has 10000 round baby seeking assault clips, a shoulder thing that goes up a barrel shroud for more thrust per second, a suppressor/flash hider combo to silently shoot with no flash from 100 miles away at 1000 bullets per second and a collapsible stock to hide it in your wallet
Top pleb

>>47886181
>its not even a clip-azine

>>47886163
I'm nontraditional, you shitlord, stop oppressing me.

>>47886179
PLEASE, YOU COULDN'T NOURISH YOUR PUBIC LICE WITH THAT LIMP SPOONFUL

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>>47882526
My players invaded a small cult of Lamashtu, turned the worshipers against the cult's leader, KO'd him, and plan to sacrifice him to Lamashtu next session after a meet 'n greet with the cultists/their new minions. It was a decent session, all things considered, and the players all seemed to have fun.

>>47886186
Those are too expensive for my blood
>>47886200
>Non traditional
>On /traditional games/
Nigga

If I want to play a bounty hunter what class would that be?

>>47886244
Any of them, if you put ranks in Survival

>>47886244
Slayer.

>>47885869
Well, you're only getting the third one: we didn't give a shit.

Simple, really. When it came to the age and the height & weight tables, Matt sorta-kinda gave a shit, and I didn't give even the ghost of what, once, may have been a shit. I still find it amazing that literally anyone cares. As far as I know, Blinkling ages were retained from Bastards & Bloodlines because we didn't see a reason to change them and/or didn't realize Blink Dog ages but, mostly, because we didn't give a shit. We spent maybe twenty minutes on that entire section under the firm belief that in all of the RPG community we'd find maybe precisely three people with a flying fuck to give and, evidently, we were wrong. Our bad.

Justify it however you want, or change it. You clearly care more than we did.

>>47886265
What does camping have to do with hinting people down and killing/turning them in for dosh

>>47886288
Survival is used to track people.

>>47886244
Knowledge (Local).

>>47886288
Survival is also use for tracking people.

Question for you guys. How do you find the quality of their books? I've had nothing but problems lately, from shoddy binding, to wrinkled pages, to books arriving that are falling apart.

>>47886270
Do you not remember how up-in-arms everyone was about the new Planetouched ages that Paizo errata'd in, therefore not only making several of their NPCs technically-dead based on their ages but killing plenty of concepts because "it's not cool to have 70-year-olds looking like young adults, please ignore the existence of elves"?

>>47886328
>>47886265
>Ask for a class
>Get skills
/tg/ everyone

>>47886379
I remember it well. It was also well after we finished up with Bloodforge.

>>47886388
Yo Gareth, mind looking at this, please?

>>47885609

>>47886387
>ask about ridiculously generic concept
>"which class can do this"
>"all of them"
>complain like a faggot
kys

>>47886405
I kinda do. Work was...not as expected, due to an unexpected resignation, and I'm not really up for answering rules questions or giving the Blood Reaver review I'd offered earlier.

Plus that's honestly more the Steelforge team's thing. I'll pass it along.

>stare at crossblooded shit trying to figure out the coolest (NOT BEST) bloodline mixture for a dagron disciple

This shit is all too special snowflake for me.

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>>47882794
>>47882821
>>47883995
Thanks anons, you're all a tremendous help. Hopefully I can live up to /pfg/'s expectations, or at least learn to improve from my fuckups. Gotta get to making that stat block and fleshing out the character so she isn't so dull. Maybe making the Stregone's Iconic will help also me figure out if the main class is actually able to be considered in a "completed" state.

Another question before I go crash for the night: Golarian is a shitheap and I know jack about other settings. Should I avoid having anything reliant on setting, or just grab my ass use and make shit up? I have some homebrew I made in case I ever needed to GM I could use.

To drop a name: Darnell Caldwell

>>47886427
Ah, no worries man. Hope you feel better soon, and thanks for passing it along.

>>47886379
Not even their NPCs; they didn't errata the starting ages table, so RAW, Self-Taught and Trained classed planetouched begin the game dead of old age, and Intuitive classed ones are basically a coinflip.

>>47886453
I'd personally suggest avoiding setting-reliance /if/ you want to see the character used in a variety of games. However, you don't have the same obstacles as formal publishing (necessarily), so do as thou wilt as long as you do it well.

>>47886387
Because anyone can be a "bounty hunter" with those skill.

Ranger
Druid
Inquisitor
Fighter
Constable Cavalier
Hell even Gunslinger or mage specialize in Hold Person can be a bounty hunter

>>47886435
Nanite Draconic.

Blame everything on Nanomachine.

So, Living Legends. I'm trying to build one, but I'm a bit stuck on stats. Assuming 20 PB, what's the best way to distribute stats on one? At first I was tempted to go all in on Int and Focused Offense, but that only works while you're focused, which rules out a lot of the "expend focus to do something cool" bits. Would just going Dex and using Weapon Finesse work best? Or is a more balanced approach better?

>>47886511
Get a second focus. Expend one, maintain the other.

>>47886435
Is Crossblooded actually GOOD? I keep hearing about it for builds but it looks horrific - a SORCERER giving up a spell KNOWN of every level is a total disaster, isn't it? You don't get a new tier of spells until a full 2 levels after a wizard at that point.

Does anyone have good art for a Synthesist Summoner? I've been looking and I've found maybe one piece of it, period. Granted there's a lot of variety in what the Eidolon can look like, but still.

>>47886435
Dragon/Orc or Dragon/Infernal (with the Pit-Touched mutation to gain a scaling CON bonus) work very well.

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>>47886548
Well, you can always just use appropriate looking things for your eidolon form.

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>>47886548

Like this?

>>47886535
You still have spell slot. So after a certain level, it's actually alright, since you will be spamming metamagic low level spell (ie Intensified Empower Dazing Fireball) anyway.

>>47886548
>>47886562
Remember that a synth's eidolon is canonically a semitransparent shell with them floating inside

>>47886548
>Granted there's a lot of variety in what the Eidolon can look like
That's really the problem here. What kind of look are you going for?
>>47886571
Fuck I need to make a Rider class.

>>47886577
Remember that you can refluff mechanics however you want and you're a worthless faggot if you suggest otherwise.

>>47886577
Fucking nuts to that. If your GM runs with those rules he's ruining half the fun of the class.

>>47886453
It's okay to be related to setting but it's best to keep it 'generic' while doing so. You know, if you're from "tropical isles" there's plenty of those on Golarion, but if you said you're from Baldur's Gate you'd have a bit of a problem.

As for "something only they can do", personally that's why I would want the Warsoul iconic to use the heavy tech weapons: because no one else can just use a feat to materialize those as a Broken Blade(and every other) discipline weapon (you're totally barrel-bashing with unarmed) or even reliably use the autofire modes in the first place!

Likewise, think long and hard about how a Stregone gets-to or becomes what they are as opposed to a kineticist, or a wizard, or hell a druid or whatever.

What is it that makes that sliver of power grow into that, instead of a full sorcerer's path in life? IS there training involved? Certain bloodlines? something gone horribly wrong or right?

Or maybe, is it just what happens to people with a bit less of the right kind of imagination; their power manifesting their "when all you have is a hammer" to solving life's problems?

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>>47886502
NANOMACHINES SON

honestly in my group's world we made Androids into an advanced version of a Haemonculus so Nanite bloodline would be a weird version of that

Mite b kewl

>>47886535
CrossBlooded is fucking godawful for a normal Sorc

It does however, have 2 niche uses.

#1
mixing draconic/orc or Primal/Orc or Primal/Draconic bloodlines give a sorc +2 damage per die on every spell they cast, for Blasters thats no joke.

#2 Dragon Disciples can advance both bloodlines by levelling up DD PrC via a loophole in taking the other bloodline's abilities and still getting them via DD. Annnd since you lost a few caster levels by picking up DD, bloodline spells will come in just at the same time or ahead of when you get a new level of spells

not ideal, but its good enough to work with.

>>47886560
I'm aware that they're both good, especially dragon/Orc

and dragon/abyssal

and dragon/inferal

But thats special snowflake shit, maybe i'll just say fuck it an stick solo draconic bloodline.

I kinda wanna do draconic/Aquatic. Raise the deeps underrated.

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So, /tg/, i wanna have some fun with my druid.
I have access to Awaken, a boat, and a wizard.

Considering to make either an octopus (but would be impratical), something found casually (and thus boring) like a hummingbird, or the wizards dodo (familiar).

Technically the dodo would be the best, but i doubt he'd still be a familiar, while awoken.
Is there any particular animal who would do good?

>>47886589
>>47886590
I know that, but since he said he couldn't find art for the synth, I assumed he was running with that, which is impossible to find art for, instead of "become a monster", which is impossible NOT to find art for.

>>47886613
Animate Object
Awaken the boat.

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>>47886577
I may have missed that part, honestly. I was thinking of something like pic related, which looks awesome but I have no idea how to find more of it.

>>47886613
It's a dodo, do what you can with it because it's not long for this world.

So I have put a lot of thought into how pathfinder siege tactics would work. Things like how one would need to build walls, how one needs to fortify a city, and more when a city has access to magic. I normally make cities in game with this in mind.

Players never seem to like it though, many down right dislike the magic defenses being different from medieval ones.

Anyone have the rest of the Legendary Games Kingmaker supplements? Only two of them are in the trove.

>>47886613
Is the Wizard level 7 or higher and Lawful Evil?

>>47886692
Enumerate the differences? It makes sense to me that they'd be different, I'm just not sure offhand what changes you've made.

>>47886692
Part of the fun of a medieval fantasy setting is that it IS low-tech. None of the logical consequences of magic have been thought of before the players arrive.

>>47886718
He's 9, but Neutral Good.
Like...

Wizards.

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>>47886577

>synth's eidolon

for a second I thought I was in /fog/ and was very confused

>>47886721
Fuck off, niggerfaggot, that may be how you like it but I prefer my societies not to be too retarded to figure out how to use magic.

>>47886692

dungeons are a natural consequence of magic actually, so much shit relies on line of sight and line of fire that dungeons are impervious to

>>47886719
Mount + Alter Summon Monster trap for instant army of Justice?

>>47886715
I POPPED TREASURY OF THE KINGDOM IN FOR YOU BUT I'VE GOT FUCKALL ELSE SORRY

>>47886603
You can't take Primal with crossblooded. Both Crossblooded and Wildblooded are archetype that alter Bloodline Arcana.

>>47886719
Because of spells such as shape stone, shape wood, disintegrate, and more, walls need to be constructed differently.

They must be layered material, in this case the following:
>Adamantine -> Water -> Lead -> Water -> Stone -> Water -> Living Creatures (of some kind) -> Water -> Stone -> Lead -> Adamantine

The outside would be hardened. The layering means no single spell can simply shape the wall to an entrance. The water is fed by central Decanters of Endless water. If the outer wall is destroyed water gushes out. This means disintegrate can't just break through because it hits the water each time instead of the material behind it and the decanters replenish this. The living material means there are creatures there, which are very difficult to see through, as is the lead.

The layer's thickness do not matter as much because conventional siege weapons can not even scratch hardened adamantine from anything but high level siege commanders. The siege commander WILL get through if he is high enough level and optimized, no matter the thickness.

Stuff like teleport traps would be city wide if affordable. Food is not a problem because Stone to Flesh exists, as does Mud to Rock. Both of these make procuring calories easy for a population. Long sieges simply wouldn't be a thing.

How you deal with siege weapons would be things such as auto-resent disintegration traps (though these are unlikely), or decanters of endless water set to geyser aimed by constructs.

>>47886818
Nobody cares about what Paizo says about that, every DM in the world allows that

>>47886814
Thanks QAnon, you're the best.

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>>47882350
Vampire bat.
Useful, cute, and nobody ever really tries to attack it.

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>>47886825
only problem being the per-pound costs of Adamantine, Lead, and the Blightburn you forgot about.

>>47886511
I'd say what's viable or optimal depends greatly on the level you're starting at and what roles you want to focus on (if any at all). Naturally, I am a bit biased about this, but in the various living legends I've built, I tended towards one of three setups:

>Str-based, using two-handed mind blades or one-handed mind blades in two hands, and ignoring the Archmage mind blade since you don't have the Dex to hit with it.

This will probably get you the strongest early levels and is by far the "cheapest" way to play it; you need no feat investment, and your obvious feat choice (Power Attack) can be grabbed either by picking the Champion as your active role, or just taking it and using the Champion as a daily floating combat feat. It's a bit less versatile than the others, and the save DC or other Int-based abilities suffer slightly for it. You'll be ahead in feats though, and potentially freed up for stuff like Martial Training.

>Dex-based, Weapon Finesse and Deadly Agility. Each of the roles' mind blades has the ability to take a Light form for finesse, and the Archmage's ranged one is Dex attacks/Int damage by default.

Doable at level 1 if you're human, and gives you better AC/initiative/Reflex saves. More feat intensive, and if you're not a human, awkward to play in level 1 starts. It won't be the end of the world if you have to wait though, probably. The Overmind's protagonist portrayal can get you Psionic Weapon to carry you through early levels, damage-wise. You could also get the Weapon Finesse blade skill if you want to do something silly with the Champion mind blade (finessing it regardless of form).

(continued)

>>47886825
Basically a correctly constructed city is next to impregnable, and one would be much more worried about flying enemies than people breaking down your walls. Long sieges would not exist. Widespread disease would not exist (as consequence people would live pretty long for the era).

Famine & Plague would simply not be a problem under most circumstances, except by things that ALSO do magic (contagion fueled plagues).

>>47886826
Guess it's okay for every class to stack up all archetype then.

>>47886859
With magic you can actually get nearly infinite amounts of the stuff essentially FOR FREE. No economy functions with magic, everything collapses.

>>47886511
>>47886863

>Int-based, Focused Offense and a second psionic focus

The most chargen resource-intensive stat focus, but also the most versatile and the best at ranged combat. Does not work at level 1, awkwardly, but comes online at level 2 when you get Focused Offense. You don't get the abilities that need you to expend psionic focus until a bit later, at which point you'll ideally have a second psionic focus to keep this online.

There's two ways to access a second focus

>Psicrystal Affinity+Psicrystal Containment
This one is a bit awkward for soulknives because the default soulknife /does not qualify/ for Psicrystal Affinity, despite being a psionic class. You can get around this by taking the Trickshot Soul trait, from Psionics Augmented: Soulknives, which grants you the trick shot talent and ML 1. That lets you grab Psicrystal Affinity at 1, but you don't qualify for Psicrystal Containment (requires ML 3) without some other shenanigans.

If you've got the High-Psionics Soulknives variant in your campaign (it's detailed at the end of the PDF; overall, we recommend using it in most campaigns), then you get Gifted Blade manifesting at level 3, and can grab the Psionic Knack trait for it to get your ML to 3 at that level, for getting Psicrystal Containment. Otherwise, you'll wait until level 5. Either way, that'll get you a useful pet rock and a second psionic focus. If you don't want Trickshot Soul, just take Affinity at 3 and Containment at 5.

You could also wait until level 6 and take the Tap Potential blade skill to get yourself a ML then go from there.

>Psionic Body+Deep Focus
This one requires Psionic Body, a truly awful feat, and 4 ranks of Autohypnosis, meaning it comes online at level 5. Overall I would greatly recommend trying for the above version. If you've got no gifted blade stuff though, it's your only option, so eating the feat tax and getting Deep Focus at 5 will let you use "expend focus" abilities while keeping your Int-SAD online.

>>47886873
You know thats not the same thing

Wildblooded bloodlines simply alter a bloodline, its in no way imbalanced to combine them with crossblooded because #1 cross blooded is hot garbage #2 wildblooded arcana are no better than normal Arcana

Seriously, Paizo themselves say its fine for DMs to rule that its ok to mix the two in the errata

whats your fucking problem, drone?

>>47886745
You know what, this plan has gotten too convoluted so I'm striking it. Just tell the DM that the boat is made of a tree and Awaken works on trees, as someone else kinda suggested.

>>47886884
Adamantine requires the Major Creation spell doesn't it?
That means you need a piece of Adamantine (you'll produce much more though) AND a Permanency spell.

I don't think you can even MAKE Blightburn this way. At the very least forget fucking summoning it, the thing scrambles teleportation

>>47886907
GM is fine to rule however they wish in their own game. They could allow fighter to cast 9th-level spell if they want.

Actually why wouldn't your GM do that? Fighting is hot garbage and no better than a commoner.

>>47886926
Getting free infinite amounts require gaming the system with Simulacrum.

>>47886933
What the fuck is your major malfunction kiddo.

nobody here is playing PFS, go back to the Paizo forums.

>>47886885
Many soulknives like to take a little dip in the Aegis pool nekkid.

Now mind you Living Legend loses out on some really good class abilities doing this, but it does have effective manifester levels.

>>47886933
>>47886956
I cannot tell who is being sarcastic anymore, but I'd love to give a fighter a bro-god patron who informally tosses down miracles occasionally when the fighter pulls off sweet-ass combat maneuvers for his enjoyment.

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>>47886933

>>47886907
Errata has nothing to do with it. You can't do it from the start. That faqs just clarify why you couldn't do it for idiot like you, it's the same for spell list vs spell known faq.

>>47886974
Yeah, that's also true. You don't lose a whole lot other than progression for it, and Natural Blade can keep your mind blade up at least. However, for the Int-based stuff, that might cause other problems, since it delays taking Psicrystal Affinity/Containment some more. How optimal or viable it is /definitely/ depends on starting level.

>>47886956
And no one play your shitty homebrew dark japan kitsune magical realm game.

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>>47886885
Hi there Forrest! Thanks for tossing in some feedback to my homebrew!

Its this one, by the way >>47884452

>>47886984
That's called a Warpriest.

>>47885649
monk/druid, I like being an animal or elemental that can do martial arts

>>47887037
No problem. Sorry for not looking at it more, it's been incredibly hectic.

>>47887001
http://paizo.com/products/btpy8k8r/faq?Pathfinder-Roleplaying-Game-Ultimate-Magic#v5748eaic9rai

sorry it was a faq

>>47887031
shhh

go back to PFS

>>47886863
>>47886885
Thank you, Forrest. The campaign is starting at 1st level, and I think I'm going to wind up with the Dexterity version, since it suits the character a bit better.

>>47887053
No problem. I'm just happy to get some feedback.

>>47886749
SYNTHS ARE A TERRIBLE FUCKING IDEA BETHESDA GET OUT.

>>47887145
Good luck with the character. Hope they're fun!

>>47887181
I enjoyed synths, I didn't enjoy bethesda's writing. Curie's a cutie.

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I've started running a game for my group where all the character's have at least 1 level of vigilante, and things are going well.

>Psychometrist who is effectively Batman
>Magical girl who used to be part of magical girl team until one of them got murdered (has a staff literally fuelled by friendship)
>Some sort of kinetisist multiclass who is the result of unethical dragon themed experimentation.
>So far have almost accidentally caused major riots, then prevented them.
>Pissed off a huge Gnoll leader by beating him in a verbal duel (despite his "continually try to bait the party" tactic)
>Run terrified whenever a mysterious Clockwork Mage turns up and tells them to return home due to a curfew that isn't actually in effect.
>Burned a ship filled with Ghouls (further pissing off the Gnoll)

From here I'm planning on having nefarious factions fighting over several magical and non-magical crowns which may or may not be immensely powerful artifacts in disguise.

I'm also planning on making the Psychometrist's bard best friend into a Protean chaos powered super-villain.

Overall I feel the Vigilante is a great class in the right sort of game and in isolation from primary casting classes (who can pretty easily do everything it can but better, which is par for the course for pathfinder). The game does have problems in that while the Vigilante personas are all happy to group up, the Social personas tend to split up during the day and each do their own thing, which leads to a bit of slow advancement.

>>47886859
>solid enough to support a a bulldozer with a full load of coins
>loose enough for scrooge to swim in
T R I G G E R E D

I want to consistently deal damage to most creature types across the board without making attack rolls or using abilities requiring saving throws.

How is this done?

>>47887448
magic missile.

>>47887430
Scrooge being able to swim in his money is an ability specific to him. The three Es tried and just landed on it.

>>47887448
>>47887476
Thundercaller Bard? 27d8 sonic damage per round that can't be negate (the saving throw is only for stun effect)

>>47887496
I'm aware of that, yeah.
it's obviously 1%er duck privilege at work.

>>47887520
How are you getting 27d8 per round out of a 1d8 damage spell effect? It's only 9d8 at 19th, are you simply burning up actions (move/std/swift) to use it 3 times a round at 19th?

>>47887540
Yup. 3 times per round. 3 chance of stun.

>>47887556
>27d8
>average damage 121.5
>level 19
>level NINETEEN
>stun mattering in rocket tag
>saves not being arbitrarily high
cuckish at *best* tbqh familia

>>47887574
turn out not wanting to roll at all in a game based around rolling is less effective than rolling

Good job now fuck off.

>>47887574
It is an answer to that guy question though. He want a no-roll damage that hit all creature type across the board.

>>47887602
I know you don't like being reminded you're inferior but it's not my fault you're incompetent. Also, rolling damage dice is still rolling, so you didn't even manage to deliver on that front. Sayonara, anon, I'll let you know if I find someone intelligent so you can have a new role model.

>>47887556
What do you do against sonic-immune creatures? Deaf anything is immune, for one thing

>>47887602
I didn't say not roll at all, I just said no attack rolls or saves.

Magic missile seems to have a slightly higher optimization cieling since it can freely hit incorporeal targets and nothing but maybe two or three creatures total are immune to it, and I can build it off of a versatile chassis like a Sorcerer.

Still, Thundercaller isn't all bad.

>>47887620
Where does it say that Deaf creature doesn't take sonic damage? Is that a house rule? Because object can't hear and some of them take extra damage from sonic.

>>47887620
The game is based around making those rolls

>>47887648
No, I mean there are a lot of deaf creatures, especially big worms, that are immune to sonic effects, which includes sonic damage from the spell Thundercaller duplicates.

>>47887616
> insulting people intelligent
> use sayonara incorrectly

Oh the irony...

>>47887670
Seems pretty correct to me.

>>47887708
Only if he quit /pfg/ and never visit it for many years.

Sayonara is a finality, you don't use it in casual conversation.

>>47887764
Or if he, say, never plans to engage that particular anon in conversation again

>>47887776
You don't use sayonara in that context.

You all seem supremely autistic

>>47887820
Uh you sure as hell do.

>>47887822
of course we are this is /pfg/

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>>47887841
Whoa there what are you implying?

>>47887521
Thinking on it, Scrooge must have a heck of a point buy.

To be as physically capable as he is while being a proper old-ass man, he must have had some hefty physical stats in his prime.

If he's tanking the -6 from being over 70 (Assuming human age categories), that's 30pb just on physical stats, just to break even. And even old as he is, he's still hardly average in the physical department.

And then there's his mental stats, all of which strike me as being fairly respectable.

>>47888148
Scrooge is like Elminster, but much more likable and successful.

Initiating Princess archetype when?

>>47882526
Yep!

>Level 8 party
>UCRogue took two rounds to deal with a CR2 Giant Leech
>no visibility
>Totemic Skald flies around and finds nothing.
>Preservationist Alchemist pockets a Chia Pet kinda thing
>Mindchemist who thinks he's a Monk remains utterly invincible favored of the dice gods

>>47888179
Wait man, you're thinking about this all backwards.

Princess customization for the Aegis when?

>>47888171
Which is even funnier if you consider that if Scrooge actually even HAS pc levels, it's probably a couple levels in Fighter and/or Rogue, with the rest being Aristocrat.

>>47888232
>form astral tiara

>>47888241
>We have truly reached the pinnacle of magical girl roleplaying

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>>47888265
>Still no Witch/Wizard Magical Girl archetype

>>47888265
>tfw the actual magical class is garbage

makes me wanna die desu

>>47888297
Anon, you posted a Magical Girl Summoner archetype

>>47888298
..Oh my god, I just realized, the Royal is a PERFECT Magical Girl. It's got archetypes for all the best tropes, too.

>>47888320
Someday, QANON will remember to take her trip off before making other posts. Today is not that day.

>>47882526
We had a really bizarre session involving tracking down a goblin wizard terrorist who had an insane obsession with red buttons. We tracked him to his wizardly tower where he was planning 9/11 (he'd already destroyed one tower, leaving the other two remaining), and each floor was just another iteration of temptation to press a big red button and then not pressing it.

The first floor, the door was unlocked, and in the middle of the room, a red button on a pedestal. We ignored it.

On the second floor, three pedestals, three buttons. Ignored it.

On the third floor, there was a button on the door opposite the room leading to the stairs. We tried the door anyway - stuck. The Rogue discovered a secret HIDDEN button, which caused a hole to appear in the floor. Out of the hole came a golem described as 'an autonomous arm with one large finger on the end, propelled atop a rolling ball'. I called him Handy, and he rolled over to the door and promptly pushed the button, which blew up.

After that, there was a room identical to the first, but seemingly no door to get to the next staircase. It was an illusion. I tested it by swinging my hammer really hard at where the door should've been, and heard wood smash rather than stone crack.

Beyond that was a floor whose entire floor was one giant red button. On the other end was a door much like the previous ones, except it seemed to lead to an empty closet. We eventually gave up on this one, and I smashed the giant button to pieces in my frustration, then smashed a hole in the cieling of the broom closet, only to find that some mechanism existed to lower the staircase into that space. Oh well. We teleported into that stairway and went up.