Horus Heresy General /hhg/

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Damn Ultramarines, stop trying to have more golden eagles than me REEEEEEEE!

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If older artwork is anything to go by Custodes will get axes too.

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>>47707697
There has been a huge misunderstanding here, cousin. Let me axe you a question. They're pretty stylish, legatinite?

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>>47707724

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>>47707749
I don't know if I should be sorry for my horrible attempt at a pun, or for making you ree more.

>>47707702
>Dude, come on, surely it's my turn to have the axe, and you have to fight with the piece of paper. How about we swap?
>No.

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To follow up on the loyalist justaerin/deathshroud/wordbearers thing from last thread, come round, take a seat, and admit the 30k lorerape you've either committed or intend to commit. It's not like anyone in these threads will get triggered by your funky ideas, after all.
I plan to do a traitor death guard army because I like tough bastards that don't give up and poison. But I plan to paint them up as dusk raiders because I really like their colour scheme and am not a fan of the death guard one.
For added fun, I may add Mortarion to this force...
...and paint him in Dusk Raiders colours as well.

>>47707702
Ah the old days of 40k, where the Imperium and Chaos were nearly indistinguishable from one another

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>>47707905
I want to see Morty in DR colors.

>>47707905
Loyalist Deathshrouds are an absolute no-no. They were Mortarion's closest dudes, I can't see any of them possibly straying from their Primarch.

>>47707952
If I ever do it, I'll post him here. Won't be anytime soon though (he wouldn't be the first thing I get for this army, and if/when I do get him I'll be taking my time with the mini).

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>>47708038
I'll wait for ya. What do you plan on getting first?

>>47708058
Well, I want to do the army in Mk III, with lots of breachers. So currently waiting to see what's in the mystical sequel to BaC, as it'd be a bummer to buy a load of resin shortly before that armour mark appeared in cheaper plastic. If said box doesn't have plastic Mk III then no worries, I'll crack on with getting some resin breacher and Mk III heavy weapon squads together.

>>47708102
That sounds good to me. Just when is that squeal coming out anyway? Any probable dates from the rumors?

>>47708142
Sad Panda (who's incredibly reliable) has said Fall 2016, but nothing more specific.

Considering that we got BaC in November and leaked pics of sprues in August, we may be not too far off.

>>47708221
I just hope this mew one doesn't replace BaC, as I'd like for them both to be available by October for my birthday.

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I would like to get into HH eventually (As my 4th army), i'm looking towards Alpha Legion
Mainly because i just bought 2 sets of those AL dice from FW and i've enjoyed almost all of their fluff. That and thanks to some anon here, i now know how to paint them.

Any tips, links or ideas to educate me on what to by as a "core" force?
Thanks

Forgeworld only sells the Javelin attack speeder right? So if I wanted to use a regular Land Speeder I'd use the plastic 40k kit?

>>47708399
I had the same problem. Moving to another country with worse prices, so I had to cash in and buy BaC before moving, in order to not have to panic-buy it and lose money.

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>>47708472
BaC is always a safe bet to start nowadays.

Here, have a step by step pic of AL paintings. Not mine though.

>>47708948
That's the exact pic that helped me make up my mind last week
God bless that anon

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>>47708948
>>47708957

>>47708957
Same here.

Pretty sure that anon unwillingly sent several of us towards Alpharius' arms. Or was it Omegon's?

Why are SoH the only legion to not have legion specific wargear or upgrades?

>>47709043
There's the Cataphractii Primus that comes to my mind first.

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>>47709027
Hail Hydra

>>47709058
Thats a relic though isn't it?

>>47709043
Don't they get banestrike rounds?

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>>47708972
That's a whole lot of GUILLIMAN blue for the Alpha Legion there

>>47709084
That they do.

>>47709084
They do have banestrike which the Alpha Legion also have (and made) and can get it on heavy bolters.

>>47709104
That's, like, alphageometrical dude

Did Justaerin and all wear black when they were the Luna Wolves? I want them to contrast with the rest of my army.

>>47709475
Yes

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Tell me why I should like Night Lords, in fluff and tabtetop.

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>>47709819

>>47709819
Read ADB's Night Lord Trilogy - you'll love them or hate them
Curze is effectively /pol/, so see above

Snarky Atheists and Criminals is basically what the NL are in 40k

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>>47709862
>recommending ADB
>ever

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>>47707697
Wow, that sure is a lot of eagles, and the best painted models I've ever seen. You could say they are...perfect.
>>47707724
>>47707769
kek

>>47709819
wing helmets

>>47709900
Isn't he one of the better ones?

>>47709997
>muh daddy issues
>muh strong womyn protagonists

No.

>>47710026
Apart from that, his writing is bloody perfect for 40k though.
It is properly Epic, awe-inspiring.
Compared to the bland descriptive style of Abnett, he's miles above.

>>47710330
I like Abnett's storytelling, but holy shit does he go overboard describing his characters' outfits.

>>47710356
How bad could it be? I've read a little of Ravenor and Eisenhorn before but I can't remember it all.

>>47710330
graham mcneil is the worst
>random women inserted just for the sake of grrrl power
>random brown 'people' even though they dont exist in 40k
>everybody has sandnigger names
>homosexual writing style 'his whole body was pulsating' type shit
absolute garbage tier

>>47710392
The only instance I actually remember specifically, and is the one that made me start looking for it more, is in Eisenhorn when they're in a hotel room or something getting ready to try and blend in with the mutant subculture in a hive world (or something like that, it's been a long time since I've read it) and he tells you the colors and materials and some details of Eisenhorn's shirt, pants, coat, and even his shoes maybe. There's a couple instances in Legion, too.

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I finished another HH book.

I've read:
>Fulgrim
>The First Heretic
>A Thousand Sons
>Know no Fear (didn't finish it, i got bored)
>Angel Exterminatus
>Betrayer
>Various short stories

What to read next?
I like Emperor's Children and Word Bearers mostly, and in general the point of view of traitors.

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>>47710421
That pulsating bit fits with Slaaneshis, Anon. That's all I'm saying.
>>47710463
>Abnett hasn't finished the other series yet because he is writing a story that involves the Emperor
>he's taking too much time writing everything the Emperor has worn in his nearly 50,000 year life

>>47710491
Vengeful Spirit is probably worth a read.

>>47710491
The First Heretic.

>>47710491
Try Horus Rising, anon.

>>47710356
>but holy shit does he go overboard describing his characters' outfits.
>he doesn't like Thonius

>>47710026
Seriously, what does he have against the Emperor?

I would've loved Talon of Horus if it wasn't for that.

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>>47710785
Some people say he's taking his daddy issues out on Emps, some might say he's too much of a Chaosfag, but some people say it's both. Me? I think he needs several cans of pic related.

I need Beaversor.

>>47706840
>>some nutcase was with us in her house
>>nutcase died for some reason but screamed as something high pitched screamed with him
>>body disappeared
>>found out what killed him as it popped out of a doll
>>some kind of black worm with a tongue sticking out
Alright, either you dreamed of SCP-136 or you were visited by the Screaming Man of the Old Night. You will find useful STC fragments, but only if you remove your eyes, ears, fingers and tongue and say "Silence".
http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-136

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>>47710908

>>47710937
I said Beaversor

>>47710918
The Screaming Man's the one that made people shoot fire and lightening out of their eyes right?

>>47711020
Ye. It was the first time the Bell of Lost Souls tolled.

>>47710491
I really enjoyed most of the Isstvan trilogy, the battle for the Choral City and then the aftermath of the bombing being my favourite parts. Would recommend

>>47710507
I wrote Squad Broken as a shitty prank when my buddy was getting into 40k.

Glad to see it's still around.

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>>47711701
Well thanks for creating that eyesore if you actually did it.

>>47711930
You're more than welcome. I dont approve of whoever wrote the sequel. It was perfect as is and they fucked up a few times fluff wise.

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>>47712078
>complains about someone making a fluff mistake
>claims to be the author of an Ork rape story

EC are underpowered

I made this list on a whim, the thought of this many rending fear-causing attacks sounded fun.

Help me trim the points cost down to 1,000, and see where I could improve the list.

Imperialis Militia/Warp Cults CAD.

-Tainted Flesh, 35
-Feral Warriors, 35

HQ
-Force Commander, 50
+Power Armor, +10
+Digital Lasers, +5
+Bolt Pistol, +2
+Power Sword, +10
+Extra Attack, 25
Total, 102

Troops
-Inducted Levy Squadx2, 40 (80)
+Discipline Collars, 10 (20)
+Vexilla, 10 (20)
+Extra Attack, 25 (50)
+Auxilia Pistols, Free
Total, 85 (170)

-Imperialis Militia Grenadier Squadx2, 65 (130)
+Eight additional Grenadiers, 40 (80)
+Additional Grenadier wih Flamerx2, 20 (40)
+Vexilla, 10 (20)
+Auxilia Pistols, Free
+Extra Attack, 25 (50)
Total, 135 (270)

Heavy Support
-Battle Tank Squadron (2 tanks), 280
+2x Leman Russ Exterminators, free
+2x Hull Lascannon, 10 (20)
+2x Heavy Bolter Sponsons, 20 (40)
+2x Pintle Heavy Stubber, 5 (10)
Total, 350

-Battle Tank Squadron (2 tanks), 280
+2x Leman Russ Vanquishers, 15 (30)
+2x Hull Lascannon, 10 (20)
+2x Heavy Bolter Sponsons, 20 (40)
+2x Pintle Heavy Stubber, 5 (10)
Total, 380

-Complete Total, 1222 points.

>>47707697
EAGLES!

achilles need to be able to take phosphex if you take a siege breaker

i want to run 12 quad mortars with phosphex and 9 achilles with phosphex

>>47712810
You can only take one Achilles per Land Raider squadron, though. But you can outflank them if an Explorator Proteus is in the squad :^).

>>47712845
>You can only take one Achilles per Land Raider squadron, though
bah fucking gay.

fuck achilles then. give me more medusas godammit

>>47712433
The older fluff when an ork reached a level of maturity it would find a way back to it's home planet to do "sum'ting." I'm not sure if that's how the spelt it, close enough, who cares. Orks had an established sex drive.

Squad broken did use some creative licensing but squad broken 2 had a fucking space marine using a plasma rifle. What the fuck is that shit. That's not in their arsenal and neither do they make a "pulsing" sound.

>>47712869
Ran some numbers, let's see if they're helpful
>The Medusa may be the better source of regular AP2 phosphex, but if what you care about is killing regular marines while leaving behind flaming dangerous terrain, then Phosphex Quad launchers are your best option, ruining ~1.5 times the terrain covered by Medusae, while being ~2.8 times more points efficient in doing so, its MEQ killing capabilities comparable to Scorpius Whirlwinds (shorter range, less mobility and wounds on a 3+, but more reliable, leaves obstacles for infantry in its wake and you can bring more dakka for the same price).
Furthermore, you can take phosphex cluster bombs on the "I hope they don't spit at me" Lightning fast attack choice (and you can bring three of them as a single LoW, but that'd be like giving away 3VP)

>>47713015
The issue I have with giving the medusa phosphex is you lose the S10 AP2 shot. The quad-mortar can still fire other types of rounds if you give it phosphex.

>>47713042
Then bring the Ordo Reductor's Medusae, which get extra options and come with both regular and phosphex shells base, at a cheaper price than the Legion's, because fuck them. It's not like the Magos Reductor doesn't have his uses, so the tax would be about a single unit of Thallax. Dunno, it's a tempting option.

>>47713042
yeah the medusa should be able to choose which shell its shooting.

also typhons need phosphex :^)

Any one got any advice for building World Eaters and/or killing Guilliman

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>>47713163
Bringing a Typhon gives you a chem bombardment though.

>>47713208
typhons should shoot typhons... that are covered in phosphex.

>>47713188
if you charge girlyman and his deathstar with angron and your deathstar, girlyman will die, especially if you are running berzerker assault or have a chaplain. the one question is how you plan on canopnening his transport and getting your deathstar into his

>>47713188
Lots and lots of dudes. My 3000pt list has 43 power armored bodies, 8 terminator bodies, and Angron. I;m not sure how fluffy Dreadnoughts are to World Eaters, but I like them too. I always field a Leviathan. I figure they're unstable and crazy enough to be right up our alley. Dreadclaws are great, Kharybdis if you want to use giant squads, and of course the Spartan. We have a great survivability RoW in the Crimson Path, and Berzerker Assault is pretty good, too. You might want a Sicaran Venator or some Laser Destroyer Vindicators because there's not a whole lot of antitank otherwise (my anti-armor is my Contemptor-Mortis and my Leviathan).

>>47712669

Those two Exterminators are a clusterfuck. Are you trying to kill light vehicles and infantry with autocannons? Tanks with the lascannon? Light infantry with the bolters and stubbers? Choose one and roll with it and you'll save a bunch of points. Ditch the lascannon and stubber for multi-lasers, remove sponsons. Remove infantry/rhinos and AAA in a pinch

The Vanquishers are perhaps even worse. For what possible reason would you want 50pts of anti-infantry for a tank that's exclusively designed to hunt tanks? Ditch everything except the lascannon.

If you're planning on using the Grenadiers for melee, consider giving them augmented weapons to give them a slight boost when they don't rend. Throw in some medics for better FNP and more bodies.

>>47713488
>3000 points
>40 MEQ and 8 TEQ
>lots and lots of dudes

Never understood why 30k lists are so infantry light. My 1500 40k army has this amount of infantry.

>>47713544

Which is funny because 30k is oriented towards loads of big squads due to the cheaper pricing.

It just so happens that loads of people also choose to go Pride of the Legion, which means they can fill out absurd numbers of points with a handful of models (and less $$$$$).

>>47713544
that is fairly infantry light 2bh

my WE list has about the same amount of infantry except like 30 of the power armor guys are veterans with poweraxes

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best primarch levitating through, cry more ultrababy infidels

>>47713535
Eh, I made the list on a whim. Will change immediately!

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>>47713603
>Lorgar
>Talks about crying
His Monarchia theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hxonfpfuTY

>>47713544
I've kinda puzzled over it myself and come to the conclusion it's because the other stuff I take it pretty expensive. 340 pts for a Spartan to transport the guys, 260 for a Kharybdis, 305 for the Leviathan, and of course Angron at 400.

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>>47713603

>tfw your two favourite legions are Word Bearers and Ultramarines

I-I just want to build Space Rome while being really pushy about worshipping the God-Emperor.

>>47713566
>It just so happens that loads of people also choose to go Pride of the Legion

Eh, I go for a Pride of the Legion and have 4x Vet squads+Seekers at 1850ish-pts. Its that people rely on deathstars units and large vehicles and those add up quick, in that anon's list Angron's deathball is probably close to 1.2kpts on its own.

>>47713603
He might be the best primarch but his legion is full of faggots.

>>47713705
yeah the vehicles are eating up your points

my list is angron, praetor, surlak, 26x furious charge veterans with power axes and meltabombs in 3 dreadclaws, 10x terminators with powerfists and 5x chainfists who deepstrike because i run orbital assault. 20x assault marines. all of the sergeants have artificer and powerfists

im hoping they fix the point cost of assault marines so i can run 2 units of them 15x man strong instead of 2 10x man units.

its about the only way ive figured to make orbital assault work for WE

>>47710026

In the sausage fest of 40k, having strong female characters is bad? I bet you were one of those MRA guys who hated Fury Road.

>>47713906
>strong
>female
kek

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Would it have turned out better if the emperor was a woman?

I think it would have. Women are wiser and more considerate and tend not to fuck up relations with their children as badly as men do.
Also, sons are less willing to raise their hand against their mother than against their father.

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>>47713984

Wave and ignore.

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>>47713984
>Woman Emprah
>Still a GIANT
HNNNGGGG
>Women are wiser and more considerate and tend not to fuck up relations with their children as badly as men do.
Both can fuck up in their own way. Having wimpy-ass children due to overprotecting them still counts as fucking them up.
>Also, sons are less willing to raise their hand against their mother than against their father.
I guess this one is true. I've seen fathers-sons at but a finger of killing each other. It's a sad thing to behold.
Now imagine how I felt when I read about Horus brutalizing Emps and the latter obliterating him in turn.

>>47713544
Most of the lists I've seen are infantry-heavy because of the price of buying vehicles.

But if you want an effective army with tanks, you're better off bringing lots of tanks. Bring just a couple and they'll get blown up in short order.

>>47713984
I require lewds of Femperor for "Research".

That is all.

>>47713984
Also, that haircut would have suited him better if he was female.

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>>47713984
Oh look a topic that has been talked about hundreds of times before. Now please stop this mess before you summon the faggot who made me hate yuri.

>>47713984
>Women are wiser and more considerate
>and tend not to fuck up relations with their children
ahahaha

Anyways, literally nothing changes, because after thirty thousand years it doesn't matter what you originally were.

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>>47714426
Let's see the first thing I made for /hhg/ was the Knight Errant Generator, Dank Heresy, the picture of Papa Sang made out of assault cannons, two out of the Imperator Titan reaction images, the picture of Siggy hitting Abby with a chair, but I feel like I'm forgetting something. Oh well. I just thought of this when I posted that picture of Kermit.

>>47712906
Lookin' fer sumfink

>>47714542
Knight errant generator?

I don't know much about Knight Errants. Precursor to Grey Knights, right? And they have rules on the tabletop?

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>>47714824
>Knight errant generator?
Here it is. You don't want to know just how many psykers were made with this in past versions. And yes to both of your questions.

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Now that I'm on it what exactly is the difference between an Alpha level and an Alpha+ psyker? Both are rare and incredibly stronk but what is the difference? Is an Alpha Plus basically pic related but coated in salt and barbed wire?

>>47715093
the difference is one has a plus sign on the end

Don't think there's a science behind psychic power levels.

>>47715173
You're going to die either way but one of them will mind bullet you to death faster?

Rolled 8 (1d20)

>>47714866
Huh, that's cool. I know that on the tabletop they're Agents of the Emperor, and that they can be allied to any loyalist army.

Is there something like this for traitor armies? Like, is there a customizable Agent of the Warmaster sort of thing?

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>>47714866
Why can't I roll a Knight Errant in your Knight Errant generator?

I'm complaining to the Games Workshop internet police.

Rolled 8 (1d10)

>>47715202
Night Lords, cool. Batman is now part of the justice league. Kek.

>>47715093
Alpha+ is even stronger than Alpha.

It's sort of like in animus where S class is stronger than A class and SS class is stronger than S class despite being made up entirely of cure little boys.

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>>47715202
Bat Marine, you might want to use an online rice roller instead.
>Is there something like this for traitor armies? Like, is there a customizable Agent of the Warmaster sort of thing?
Sorry, m8, I didn't think of that. One Anon did make a Blackshield generator however.
>>47715221
Because you're in a different weight class for Horusmania.

Rolled 3 (1d6)

>>47715238
Whoops, supposed to be a d6.

>>47715221
My sides, anon!

>>47715198
the difference is some author (I want to say it was abnett?) needed something to show a psyker EVEN STRONGER than an alpha level psyker, but ran out of greek alphabet

in practice there is no difference, because psychic powers are literally unexplained magic with no consistency. That's why the alpha-beta-omega-whatever levels only show up in a handful of novels, and never in any of the mainline fluff pieces.

>>47715093
So the Psyker grading system is a logirythmic grading system ranking them in fairly broad power groups depending on the style of powers that they have. The problem with this style of grading is that once you reach the upper end of the curve the system is largely meaningless because the differences even between two alpha level psykers could be like the difference between an AK-47 and a Intercontinental Ballistic missile. The reason for the Alpha+ designation is to denote the very strongest of the alpha levels.

Rolled 2 (1d10)

>>47715249
>online rice roller
I'd rather use my rice spoon, whatever the proper name for it is, than a roller.

Eh, I just feel like rolling it on here, thought it'd be nice to share what I'd get from the chart.

>>47715251
Right now it's Sergeant Batman.

>>47715249
>Colombian man killed by toilet

I bet florida man is behind this.

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Rolled 8 (1d8)

>>47715298
Batman is only 8% insane. Makes sense, I suppose.

>>47715305
I'd put my money on it.

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>>47715245
>>47715264
>>47715287
I thought Sandy started the Alpha+ thing.

Rolled 2 (1d3)

>>47715314
Sergeant Batman was hated by the Batlegion. How odd.

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>>47715298
>I'd rather use my rice spoon, whatever the proper name for it is, than a roller.
>Eh, I just feel like rolling it on here, thought it'd be nice to share what I'd get from the chart.
Or Nevada Man. Might have been Pennsylvania Man who is a monster.

Now that the guy that used to upload BL books on kickass is gone, I guess I'm going to have to buy them.

Rolled 8 (1d10)

>>47715336
Looks like he likes some ranged combat. Is this why the Bat Legion hated him?

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>>47715367
That's for you to make up.

Rolled 8 (1d10)

>>47715367
Considering that he's Bat Legion, he can't have Gorgon armor. Rerolling.

Rolled 9 (1d10)

>>47715401
Why do I keep rolling all these 8s?

>>47715249
>ride-by spanking
I heard a story of a drive-by spanking.

Rolled 3 (1d4)

>>47715412
Tartaros Termi armor!

Let's see how well Batman works with the Justice League.

>>47715414
How does it work?
>>47715412
The Emperor wants Sergeant Batman to wear Gorgon armor.

>>47715412
The Eightfold Path calls to you.

>>47715401
Why not?

>NL meets a Gorgon terminator on Istvaan, both join a group and retreat together
>The group is ambushed by the Alpha Legion and cut down to a man, Gorgon bro dies and NL dons his friends armor to honor him so that he may fight on together
>Goes rambo on the Alphas until he's rescued and recruited by a Knight Errant

Rolled 8 (1d24)

>>47715434
He deosn't work well with them. Let's see his specialty.

>>47715438
>>47715449
The problem with that is that Gorgon Termi armor is bonded to the wearer and is IH only.

>>47715448
But, he betrayed the Bat Legion to get away from them!

>>47715489
The Eightfold Path clearly doesn't give a single fuck.

Rolled 10 (1d20)

>>47715489
Batman was a Forge Lord. Makes sense, what with all the nifty gadgets hes got!

EIGHT!

>>47715438
>a passenger spots a girl rollerskating on the side of the road, tells the driver to slow down when passing by her
>lowers the window
>slaps her ass
>everybody in the car laughs

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>>47715513
Indeed. Looks like I need to get BaC and start up a Word Bearers army.

>>47715521
Batman doesn't have any superpowers, as expected.

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>>47715489
>The problem with that is that Gorgon Termi armor is bonded to the wearer and is IH only.
I don't know why the Emperor wants you to wear Gorgon Armor. I suspect an error in communication.
>>47715536
That makes sense I guess.

Anyone got that generator that was used to make the Tiji Sector? I want to roll up a planet, or make a proper 30k planet.

>>47713791
Yea, but I figure all the vehicles (save the Kharybdis) can still get some work done. Spartans are a good distraction and quad lascannons can eat armor, Contemptor-Mortis dreads have a bunch of S6 rending, and Leviathan has a siege drill. I think I need to clear some room and get him a drop pod, though.

>>47715264
>Alpha-level - the highest category a human psyker can reach. Alpha-level psykers can turn a man inside out with a glance. A mere flick of a wrist can snap a Battle Titan in two, or a muttered syllable turn an army upon itself in a frenzy of bloodlust. With such godlike powers at their disposal, it is small wonder that Alpha-level psykers are amongst the most dreaded of foes that the Ordo Hereticus of the Inquisition must face. - 4th edition rulebook

I'd call that pretty mainline.

>>47712906
I'd say he merely fucked up a bit in the "plasma rifle" thing, which can be easily related to plasma guns the same way boltguns are the bolters.
Yes, I'm aware those Tau have their own version of the plasma rifle, but even though the word "rifle" used to mean "rifled barrel", the meaning of it has evolved, because word usage isn't set in stone:
>In many works of fiction a rifle refers to any weapon that has a stock and is shouldered before firing, even if the weapon is not rifled or does not fire solid projectiles (e.g. a "laser rifle").

So im confused with the new titan weapons, can you take 2 power claws, 2 mega bolters, and 2 laser blasters?

>>47715591
I live in a Slav country.

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>>47715591
>Six eights
>Bloodletter MkI haunts you
So, you made a Knight Errant that is literal Batman: a techmarine (lots of gadgets instead of superpowers) that hails from a legion he didn't agree with and that hates him back (League of Shadows/NL) and doesn't work really well with the Justice League either.
Nice.

>>47715780
The claw can get a built-in mega bolter for 75 points.

Whoops, >>47715959 was meant for >>47715521 while taking into account that guy's bloodletter.

>>47715959
Thanks mate! If you've got the tables or whatever's needed to stat him out, that could be a thing to do.

I fucking love it when Iron Warriors and Imperial Fists and their successors work together. Like Dantioch and Polux. And in the Beast Arises.

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>>47716008
As in, character advance tables?

>>47716158
I dunno, I'd heard that Knight Errants could be given their own statline and rules or somesuch.

Found the generator. http://imgur.com/frYB8IP,HMSQX4c,3KMqhhz,Ln03ll7,WbZ0C8S,ghKHvKH,vvnk9CU,muuSX7M,z1CYNV2,jnwIbWZ,4OLa5ZT
Want to roll up a planet to bring the Imperial Truth to, or a planet that's going to get Dark Compliance'd? Ignore the Inquisition and Ministorum things though.

>>47713984
>women are more considerate
>women are wiser

Confirmed for never having had to deal with women on a day to day basis.

>>47715314
>Florida woman who caught husband cheating takes dump on floor, asks cops "What was I supposed to do"

my sides
every fucking time

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>>47716201
Imperial Truth

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>>47716172
Maybe you mean this one instead.
>>47716201
This is nice.

Rolled 1 (1d10)

>>47716201
>>47716295
It occurs that I should roll for size.

>>47716322
We're tiny. Tiny as the percentage of sanity in the Word Bearers. What's our circumference?

Rolled 1 + 4 (1d10 + 4)

>>47716347
Let me just check my F.A.T.A.L. sourcebook...

Rolled 6 (1d12)

>>47716369
Yikes. Moving on to our density.

Rolled 10 + 4 (1d10 + 4)

>>47716396
We're average.

Rolled 10 - 1 (1d10 - 1)

>>47716396
6-4+1 is 3 so our density is low, gravity between 0.05 and 0.1 of earth's.
Rolling for atmosphere..

Rolled 6 + 4 (1d10 + 4)

>>47716449
Ignore this!
>>47716455
On it.

>>47716478
What am I doing wrong here? I'm only putting only one + in the options bar.

>>47716455
Despite being as small as a planet can be, with really low gravity, our atmosphere is really thick.
Probably DAoT tech.
Length of day needs 1d10-3
>>47716495
What are you trying to do?

Rolled 5 + 3 (1d10 + 3)

>>47716548
>our atmosphere is really thick.
>Probably DAoT tech.
Reminds me of one of the tools in Spore's space stage.
>What are you trying to do?
I don't even know anymore.

>>47716582
dice+1+10+-3

Rolled 1 - 3 (1d10 - 3)

>>47716598
Thank you, Uni.

Rolled 1 (1d10)

>>47716608
>-2
For fucks sake anon.
Whatever, I'm counting it as a 2 but in the opposite direction.
A day is <result> hours long, BACKWARDS.

>>47716660
I think I need some fresh air, Satan.

>>47716660
>A day is one hour long.
I propose we just leave this planet alone and don't colonized it since it's being retarted.

>>47716727
It might have something useful though. Like unobtainium #8. Just how would you live on that planet?

>>47716741
Give me a d10 for the year length.

Rolled 7 (1d10)

>>47716783
This planet better be worth it.

Rolled 10, 7, 10, 4, 3, 10, 9, 5, 1, 7 = 66 (10d10)

>>47716797
A year is <result> standard Terran days x 7
I want a d10 +2 for temperature.

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Rolled 6 + 2 (1d10 + 2)

>>47716832
At this point let's just see how many times I can mess up with the rolls.
>captcha is trains
Yep, this is a trainwreck all right.

Didn't a piece of fluff have an alpha plus psyker controlling an entire planet of people with his mind? Or was it an entire hive?

>>47716939
Caphias Cain novel. Said psyker controlled SoBs too.

>>47715716
4th edition was 12 years ago, anon.

>>47716965
>5th ed was 4 years ago
>40k is 30 years old

At this rate the Siege of Terra book will be released to commemorate the 40 years of WH40K.

>>47717038
Nigga, no. That's too early.

>>47716315
I think Sergeant Batman would have a Servo-arm, Jump Pack, Melta Bombs, Sniper Rifle, and a Master Crafted Lighting Claw, bringing him to 165 points.

Honestly, I hope FW makes a Traitor version of this, dunno what it'd be called though.

>>47717169
Chosen, you pick a god allegiance and it gives certain bonuses, weird gear like Kai guns and demon weapons plus the Demon USR and a statline similar to Gal Vorbak.

>>47717202
Really? What book is it in?

>>47717209
Its in my head.

Hmmmm.... I'm not sure which legion to start. Either Word Bearers or Alpha Legion. I like both of their fluff, both of their rules, both of their primarchs, both of their color schemes (leaning towards Word Bearers there), etc.

It's a hard choice.

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What's everybody working on this weekend? After realizing I was a faggot for having an unpainted 30k Fists + Knights army, I decided to take the first step towards just being a faggot for having a 30k Fists + Knights army. Obviously a WIP and obviously not pro painted but still.

>>47717360
Shattered legions, do it.

>>47717463
>having the Imperial Knight be IF too

FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFOR DORN!!!!!!

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Discuss.

>>47717515
1) yellow is awesome
2) fuck you if I was a knight with a giant robot I'd be riding Dorn's and Sigismund's dicks like a pornstar getting Eiffel Towered.

Alright boys post music that fits the Age of Darkness.
>traitor marines taking a moment to reflect on what they're doing and ask themselves is this really what they want
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Xm7s9eGxU

>>47717541
all too bb faced--pls add some more fucking meat for your primarchs.

>>47717591
Are you gay

>>47717577
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DR2DbU5Uq-4
I probably should have just posted this.

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>>47717783
>>47717577
>30k
>subdued, classical music
I think death metal sounds like shit, but the setting is just a big stupid death metal-off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdhwhe-7K-Y

>>47717541
None of these are any good.

>>47717989
Sometimes in the grim darkness of the far future and in the Age of Darkness the darkness can be a lifted for a moment, and subdued classical music can be played no?

>>47717989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpx0QuLbBfo

Hatred of mankind, twisted within your mind
Corrupted by powers unknown, the downfall of this world

The end of your life, beginning of human strife
Destruction of this crippled planet
Warmaster an inhuman prophet

WARMASTER

>>47718132
Okay now that fits.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jC0VF4yI25I

>tfw Alpha Legion gets dice before their unique models and primarch.

I want Word Bearers dice. Now.

>>47718221
But anon, don't you understand? ALL unique models and primarchs are Alpha Legion!

>>47718221
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j7leQB_Oe_k

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>>47718221

If you're unlucky you'll get that marble mess that EC and SoH got instead of the classy metallic that AL got.

>>47718132
Yeah, I was flipping through Warmaster's tracks.

Guess it'd be remiss not to post the only bolt thrower song I don't mind listening to once in a blue moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0GjkiYJ3zM

>>47718235
So, Curzefag, how do you like Sergeant Batman an anon rolled up earlier?

>>47718307
Out of the available dice, Deathguard dice look the best to me, honestly.

>>47718433

Agreed. Except you're a faggot and therefore more wrong than I am.

>>47718406
Not bad

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>>47717202
>Implying anyone will ever talk about Kai guns again.
Actually, given how FW likes to wink at the fanbase I could see Kai being referenced in some way. FW has nice fluff.
And posession will totally be an upgrade for the Chosen of the Warmaster.
It's in IA2 2nd E, before you ask

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>>47717573
Knights are always piloted by only one person, right?

>>47718307
>tfw just realized they replaced the sixes with the legion symbols.

My autism tells me they should've made them the ones. And three for the Alpha Legion.

>>47718528
>Not replacing the fourteen with the Death Guard Icon
You had one job, FW!

>>47718548
>tfw no eight-sided NL dice

>>47718528
legion symbols are good

ones are bad

that's why the new-ish GW dice put skulls on the ones, which reminds me of the blood bowl block dice

>>47718599
True enough.

I legitimately want all the usual dice sizes in the legion decals.

D20, d10, d4, d8, etc.

>>47718526
that's not just a person, her name is Shinji-chan.

>>47718481
Kai guns could be a special weapon for 1ksons, you gotta believe anon!.

were templar brethren ever in full yellow armor or were they always black with yellow shoulders? I don't trust my skills painting black and would rather do yellow...but I also don't wanna trigger somebody.

>>47719427

Templar Brethren are always black because they're elite members and they all come from the same ship/spot.

If you want to paint them yellow go ahead, but it will be hard to find an excuse for it, since even if you created your own chapter or company which doesn't paint their veterans black, they wouldn't have any Templar Brethren members.

>>47719427

It won't be accurate but I doubt anyone would mind. It's not a huge deal it's not like you're painting them blue or something.

Say, when will we get 30k's Skitarii (Scutarii?). Those guys have been around since before the heresy, haven't they?
I want to understand the relationship of Skitarii and Cult Mechanicus with the Mechanicum.
I tend to think of the AdMech and the Mechanicum as synonims, and I want to know how wrong would that be (also, I'd love Holy Requisitioners existing in 30k)

>>47719427
>Black is too hard to paint
>So I will paint yellow

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I've only ever played a couple of games and I like the Word Bearers. I've read their rules, but I'm not entirely sure if they're garbage or not. They seem good, but, as I said, I've got no experience. Anyone able to help a bit?

>>47720420
They aren't bad. They aren't as good as the Blood Angels, Emperor's Children, or Death Guard, but you could easily field a diverse army utilizing their special units and perform fairly well.

>>47720420

Gal Vorbak and psychic Lorgar are supposed to be pretty good.

>>47716023
I'm finding myself enjoying the series more than I thought I would.

>>47720445
>>47720453
I like it. Thanks, lads.

>>47718464
Fucking moron

>>47718526

My Knight Household 'House Evandam' is Eva meets Gundam: The Household.

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Knight anon here. Done with the basics tonight...going to start priming my Fists tomorrow, really hope this vibrant yellow doesn't fuck up the detail. Anyone else use Army Painter Daemonic Yellow primer for Fists?

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>>47720711
Tell me about your Knights, anon. What do they do, how do they do it and what kinds of knighsuits do they prefer.
Also, Evas are alive...are your Knightsuits alive?

>>47720857

Think of every Japanese Mecha Trope, hot blooded, suicidal brave, impulsive, unwilling to ever back down, and that is the household.

And Knight machine Spirits are alive, they have a will of their own, or at least so the household believes.

Also the Knight Models will have back-fins, Gundam Heads from model kits and numbers from 01 to 09.

>>47720745
I tried it and I don't recomend it. It's bright as shit, leaves very little room for highlights. Go with classic yellow technique, takes more time but gives much better results.

Trying to undercoat a Kharybis and Dreadclaw tonight............it is crazy hard to get all the angles and nooks and crannies done in a single pass. I am up to my 3rd pass and still lots to go still!!!

>>47719427
Black is easy as fuck to paint m8, yellow is the harder one

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Is Konrads hit and run special rule when he charges useless or not? I would be a lot more useful if it was the turn he got charged.

>>47717541
The rock will be vulkan.

>>47723284
I don't trust that guy. He just seems sketchy.

>>47717541

I have so many complaints about this image I don't even know where to begin, but I will say that Corax looks spot on

>>47721450
Hey, I remember you.

>>47717541
>Picking pretty boys for Angron, Dorn, Kurze, and Mortarion

>>47723348
Konrad is a fine lad.

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>>47723631

>Dorn
>Not handsome as fuck

Report for pain glove

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>>47723833
Nice try, Curzefag.

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>>47723855
>Any primarch being more handsome than Flugrim

>>47723890
He ended crime on Nostramo, for good. He's a hero, but simply misunderstood for his actions.

>>47723631
Kurze is a pretty boy in a metal thrash band sort of way.

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>>47723925
Yo.

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>>47723855
Dorn?

>>47723957
A monster that hunts other monsters is still a monster. If people use your name the same way they refer to the boogieman, are you still a nice fella? Nigga was damaged goods and needed high-grade therapy.
It would have been nice if he had been mentored by Vulkan instead of Fulgrim, and still had the whole "it's also a hammer" incident.
>Kurze is a pretty boy in a metal thrash band sort of way.
All primarchs are baseline pretty. Even as other factors marred their visage, especially Angron, Mortarion and Vulkan, everybody was able to still catch a glimpse of the Emperor in them.

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>>47723855
>tfw my uncle basically looks like Dorn
It's an odd feeling going fishing with someone who looks like they should be off defending Terra from the neck up...

(unfortunately I don't have any pictures)

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>>47723925

Ahem

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>>47724042
Yes
>>47723962
I'd post that assault cannon Sangy pic but I couldn't find it.

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>>47724875
>I'd post that assault cannon Sangy pic but I couldn't find it.
I made it.

>>47725299
I don't get it.

>>47725309
BA get assault cannons, it's not difficult.

>>47725351
I honestly don't get it. What about Assault Cannons?

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>>47725309
Blood Angel megadakka. The joke goes further with the supposed old lore that hinted at Papa Sang being married. He rolled a one, his wife got pregnant, but died during child birth. It wasn't a total loss as she gave birth to a beautiful assault cannon girl.

>>47725378
Oh. I get it now. I like it.

Though, Papa Sang being married is something that I'd honestly like to hear about. Mostly the Primarchs daily lives before/after they were found.

>>47725427
I have yet to find it. I might have to start digging in the old Angels of Death codex.

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>>47725378
>she gave birth to a beautiful assault cannon girl.
I thought the pic you made was Papa Sangy's true visage (as with the original angels, his true face could blind you or worse), and his daughter was Assault Illiastus "Illy"-chan

>>47725476
Yeah pic related is Sang's girl.
>ought the pic you made was Papa Sangy's true visage (as with the original angels, his true face could blind you or worse)
That is the case.

>>47724786
So butifel...

mechanicum broke the game and are powerful, how? which units? explain it to me?

white scars are also broken and OP, again how? I don't see it?

>>47725961
Think the white scars thing is largely because their legion-specific melee weapon, the power glaive, is pretty tasty.

>>47726019
Which is basically just EC fags complaining that they don't have the top melee weapon anymore. It's only available to characters so isn't even that great as AP2 at initiative is only good en masse. Only legions with that are EC, Smurfs and DG iirc.

using converted militarum tempestus scion models as solar auxilia, yay or nay?

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>>47726138
Absolutely

>>47726138

You can use literally anything as Solar Auxilia so long as they look sufficiently armoured and are totting lasguns.

If any grognards tell you otherwise (refer to prior autist who refused to play White Scars anon because no books talked about Ultramarines fighting them), remind them that the Solar Auxilia was a galactic template for broadly-similar armed forces, and even Rogue Traders had household troops that fell under that category.

The entire point of the Imperial Army is basically 'ur doods' in a setting that is otherwise quite statically SM (Blackshields excepted).

>>47726076
>It's only available to characters so isn't even that great
>Only legions with that are EC, Smurfs and DG

Well duh, WS haven't gotten their legion-specific units yet. Just you wait until we get an entire unit of WS5 2+ bikers all equipped with Power Glaives.

>>47726197
WS special unit is apparently some sort of "khanate guard" equipped with power glaives and jump packs.

>>47726197
I'm not disputing that but as things are currently it's not OP.

>>47726236
>jump packs
Source?

>>47726236
They'll probably get a termi unit too, they've had one of those following the Khan around in the BL books.

>>47726138
Depends how well converted.
>>47726076
>AP2 at initiative is only good en masse.
You do know that most marines have a 3+ save right?
>>47726236
The Keshig wore termie armour.

>>47726303
>You do know that most marines have a 3+ save right?
Yeah, and there are ones with a 2+ save. What's your point?

>>47726331
The point is that AP 2 weapon are good with needing a full of them, since in most cases there will only be one 2+ in a squad.

>>47726189
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it more like this?

Solar Auxilia:
>Elite humans
>kind of like 40k Militarum Tempestus/Stormtroopers
>designed to use SA models

Imperial Militia & Cults:
>Human make-your-own-army aka. "Your Dudes"
>kind of like 40k Imperial Guard, Chaos Cultists and anything in between
>designed to use IG/Cultist/Renegade models or any fitting kitbash/conversion/3rd party stuff

>>47726354
I never said it isn't good I'm just arguing that it's not OP.

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Forgive me, /hhg/, for I have sinned.

>>47726404
I agree, in the of the EC or WE it would be OP but in the hands of WS with their lack of melee rules, it's not.

>>47726462
Your sin is forgiven, but forgiveness is a process.

but jetbikes suck in assault and only the Sgt gets the glaive

wtf makes them op?

>>47726611
jesus christ fuck head, nothing makes them OP. Also WS can take units other than jetbikes.

>>47726470
They too reroll ones to hit, and cyber hawks let them reroll charges. Not a game changer, we stll have yet to see their special units.
That are totally going to be jetbikes

>>47726076
>Sergeant with Phoenix spear
>Issue challenge
>Either enemy sergeant accepts and dies, or denies and doesnt get to swing
>Win combat almost every time
>Sweep almost every time

EC still on top

>>47726462
>Not utilizing BaC as much as possible

They make up most of my troops and all of my Cortus contemptors

>>47726704
>to hit
To wound and only if they charge 6".

>>47710026
>strong womyn protagonists

Lol, they all seems like fap-bait to me.

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>>47726776
I don't know why I wrote "to Hit" instead of "to wound". Average charge range is 7" though.
>>47726707
>>47726076

>>47726847
I do think Phoenix Terminaters should have hit and run

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>>47726847
>Average charge range is 7"
Yes, but you need to have your models to physically move 6" to have the rule kick in.
>That pic
You forgot 'My feet hurt'.

>>47723855
Dorn is a rugged handsome, not a "picked fresh from One Direction" handsome.

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>>47707615
My dream has been to field 4 Storm Trooper squads in one game, one from each permutation but all painted in the same colors and the same style, at the same level of quality. Mechanics and gameplay wise, how viable would you say this is? It wouldn't be for tournament play

I think we can all agree that Angron is pretty fucking handsome

>>47727040
You just posted this in the 40k general?

But if you mean as Grenadier squads in a Militia/Cults list, then take Survivors of a Dark age, and they're all pretty much wearing Power Armor.

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>>47726366
Despite their name, Imperial Militia & Cults are meant to represent almost any kind of human (or not) force. They're the true face of the Great Crusade...and also of the non-compliant human civilizations, like the Katara and Praxil
>>47727079
I especially like Praxil's description. Judging by the text, they're Gene-crafted Survivors of a Dark Age Grenadiers, equipped with either +1S lasguns or 4S melee weapons (and 3+ saves).
They were pseudo-space marines, more dangerous and elite than even the Solar Auxilia.

>>47726663
but fuckhead everyone onthe interwebs keeps crying they are, so tell me why they think that.
what Other units then? go on tell me

>>47727452
You can literally read the above posts for reasons about why they aren't op

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>>47726366
I always saw Solar Auxilia as being the Cadians of 30k. They're the totally elite super disciplined badasses whose organization, equipment, and methods tons of other planets mimic and utilize.

>>47727783
Holy shit that's amazing!

>>47727060
>Manlet
>Handsome

>>47720745
Yeah, I actually really like it myself. It is way too bright on its own, but that's not necessarily bad as long as you have something good to tone it down with. I use Averland Sunset over the Daemonic Yellow to base.

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>>47727815
I really like this artist, nice stuff.

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>>47727060
Angron best primarch.

>>47728133
Yeah they are pretty good.

>>47728138
Kharn the slayer

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>>47728254
Malcador's face is the best

oh my god now i finally get this all holy shit guys guys this is fucking amazing like it was there always all along and now i get it like i seriously get it and it's amazing guys holy shit

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>>47728301
?

>>47728365
Khârn/Lotara is such a shitty pairing.

>>47728389
I don't even understand how it came to being.

>>47728601
Only prominent woman in the book, so clearly she has to be shipped with him.

Has there ever been a mortal man other than Septimus getting the focus that his waifus do in any of ADB's books?

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>>47728713
I don't think so.

>>47728713
I feel like a dumb ass for asking this but who is ADB? I assume there're a black library author.

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>>47728761
You are correct. He posts on bolter and chainsword every now and then, and once posted on here.

>>47728783
>once posted on here.
Did we scare him off, or does he just not post on here?

>>47728798
I wouldn't be surprised

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>>47728798
I don't think we scared him off. There have been 65 posters in this thread so who knows which one could be him. I think he's too busy coming up with waifus for characters in his next books to come down here.

>>47728761
Aaron Dembski-Bowden. Wrote NL trilogy and The First Heretic and Betrayer. Hates the Emperor.

>>47728740
Waifus indeed!