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Whatever happened to 2hu?

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>>47668060
Anyone else really like this new Alchemist archetype? I really dig it, especially the level 15 insta-magic item.

>>47668101
>DSP archetype
>not DSP character template
Get with the DSP times old man

>>47668128
He stopped avatarfagging when people whined, I guess.

>>47668128
reply to bring 2hu back

one (You) = 1 prayer

Gareth, you here?
If yes, are there any plans for DSP Vigilante archetypes? Or does NDA prohibit you from answering such questions?

>>47668138
Hey, it could be a prestige class archetype, DSP makes those too.

>>47668130
That art looks like garbage where is wayne reynolds when you need 'im ?

>>47668163
That art doesn't look bad to me.

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Has your Wizard exploded today, /pfg/?

>>47668177
why there is so little kawaii guro ?

>>47668177
I haven't played mine yet. Been gone for a while, what's up with Elsbeth lately?

where do i find the rules for blue mage? I can't find them.

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>>47668154
The proper ritual spell for attracting the tender attentions of the touhoufag has both material components (underaged girls with hats) and verbal components (a euphoric writing style, as if one were an autistic robot). Unless both of these are provided, and in plenty, no less, the spell will fail, and we will be doomed to our eternal hell with Build Poster instead.

>>47668177
My wizards never explode. should I be happy or sad about this?

>>47668190
Apparently a lucky reincarnation into being an elf/half-elf again.

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So /pfg/, how did your last session go? Any fun storytimes?

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/damaging-objects

The damaging objects rules has the hardness of a small chest, but not anything larger. Does anyone know what the hardness of a large sized chest is?

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Are there any guidelines as to what can and cannot be a Wizard's bonded item, beyond what is given in pic related? For example, it says both weapon and staff, as if talking about different things. Does this mean that the wizard may start with a magic staff, just like he can start with a magic wand?

>>47668228
Same hardness, more HP.

>>47668237
At start, a bonded object staff is just a staff, just as a bonded object wand doesn't have a spell in it. The wizard can PUT them there, following the crafting rules given, but until then, they're just sticks.

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>>47668185
There needs to be more.

>>47668190
Waiting for the campaign to continue this week. Shit's going down in the central Lightning Rail Station in Zolanberg. Will update on that fiasco when it starts happening!

>>47668206
>My wizards never explode
But if your Wizards never explode, then how do they learn? How is their curiosity for the arcane tested if they aren't warned of its hazards through trial and error?

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Is anyone here a fan of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure?
I could use some help trying to fluff a full caster to draw his magic from stand powers but I'm not too sure where to ask.

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>>47668227
I ran my players through a ghost town that ended up being a straight ripoff of Spirited Away (but instead of being forced to work there, they got a VIP treatment and lost 2 weeks of time whilst an NPC they aren't friendly with advanced towards winning a heavy-duty long-term contest a la Ready Player One).

It's also great because I played it straight, without giving any direct references to Spirited Away, and they still latched on to the paranoia that they'd be forced to stay.

>>47668278
When they've got a natural 20 Intelligence, they don't need to practice.

>>47668276

That clears it up. Thanks.

>>47668289
Gonna shill because this is actually called for:
There's the perfect archetype if you can use 3pp called the Avant Guard.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19y_V3-_cKBzTYiFwt5M3Tij7ahQoPPt9XLTE1wreV68/edit#

If not, think about using a summoner instead.
Really when a wizard is so mechanically detached from the concept of stands, there's nothing stopping you from saying 'whenever I cast a spell a stand appears behind me and is casting it instead'

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>>47668278
>How is their curiosity for the arcane tested if they aren't warned of its hazards through trial and error?
But anon, we're playing Pathfinder. Magic has no hazards in this game.

>>47668289
When it comes to fluff, you've pretty much got entire freedom thanks to being a fullcaster. If you're a wizard, just choose thematically-connected spells (even if it's just something like "every spell has visible effects and is colored red") and explain it how you wish; you can do it all, so the most fun thing for a wizard is ironically to limit himself and have a theme.

>>47668289
>Is anyone here a fan of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure?
Ha. Ha ha. Hahahahahahahahahahaha
You had to ask?

>>47668204
That's not what euphoric means.

>>47668157
Ok, I'll try another approach to summoning him.
Gareth hates Bards.

>>47668060
will it affect the game if add spot, listen, move silently, hide and search skills?

>>47668467
Yes.

>>47668467
Yes. Don't do it, nigger.

>>47668467
Yes, considering that those skills were condensed to fit PF's smaller number of allowed skill ranks per level, from 3.x's method.

>>47668467
Yes. Negatively.

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>>47668467
Why would you do such a godawful thing?

>>47668482
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>>47668488
>>47668514
I just thought that using perception for everything was bad, but i guess its the same

Also anyone haves a good printable dm screen?

>>47668554
Why not just go full-9 and make separate skills for sight, smell, hearing, taste, and touch, then?

It's all rolled into perception and given temporary, sense-specific modifiers because generally speaking you're using at least two senses any time you're looking for something.

>>47668157
No plans, but also no opposition. It hasn't been talked about much and probably won't be for awhile.

>>47668754
Gareth, how many shills do you people pay to infiltrate theses generals on a daily basis ?
Can I join you guys ?

>>47668754
But Vigilante is the single best thing Paizo ever shat out, sans a couple disappointments like Brute or Warlock.
Oh well.

>>47668813
>Magical Child not on the disappointments list

You are no true /pfg/er

>>47668845
Magical Child is dead for me.
I just ignore it exists.

>>47668811
17,468. They help provide employment for the arctic nation of Dreamscarredia

>>47668852
You are forgiven.

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>>47668852
Why would you ignore an archetype that lets you be this awesome hunk of man?

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>>47668511
So, I assume the chest is made of wood. Would it be reasonable to upgrade it to Iron? If so what kind of cost increase could I be looking at?

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Have any of your players tried to use a Technological weapon as his Wizard's bonded item? How did you respond?

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>>47668889
What an excellent question!

So /pfg/, between option paralysis ad a lack of system mastery where martials are concerned, I need your help.

How do I make the best mounted character I can? I have GM approval for a Wyvern mount and I don't want it to outperform me too much.

>>47668929
"ok but no charges"

>>47668949
1. lance
2. spirited charge
Hooray!

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>>47668813
>Warlock is a disappointment

I mean, it is a massive disappointment because Mystic Bolts are SHIT without immense houseruling, but it's still arguably one of the better archetypes at the moment. If only because of all the archetypes that grant casting, it's the least-bad one.
Stregone in progress, maybe I can disappoint you twice.

>>47668976
I meant more in terms of class/archetypes and not relying on my charge killing them in one hit. Once I've finished my charge, how would I keep dealing good damage, especially in close quarters where Ride-by-attacking isn't viable?

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>>47668952

And if it is an atom gun, which does not require charges?

>>47668995
Mystic Bolts are the primary appeal of a Warlock and the only fucking reason to play a Warlock over an actual spellcaster instead of a Vigilante archetype. And they are SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
And I'm waiting eagerly for Stregone

>>47669017
"No."

>>47669012
2hand the lance. Attack with it. Same as ay other 2h martial, really.

Gareth, did you know that the Harbinger's Accursed Will and Dark Focus both provide insight bonuses, and that insight bonuses don't stack?

I did not know this. I found out the unpleasant way, from a DM who pretty much hates my happiness. "Maybe you should have traded it out with an archetype," I paraphrase, "since you're so obsessed with system mastery."

It was a bad time, Gareth! But I forgive you.

Unrelated entirely, has anyone tried out the prestige class for Endeca's gregarious gravity slimes in Steelforge? It looks fun but clunky. How would one go about making the most of it? Why aren't there "shove your <companion/familiar/other>-granting class feature into your <companion/familiar/other>-granting class feature" feats? DSP should write one somewhere. Probably in the psionics line where they keep all their stealth fixes.

Tell me about your dream campaign /pfg/!

>>47668952

I'd take that deal, batteries are just 50gp.

>>47669068
Are you 2hu?

>>47669078
Does require them to be for sale. You need an artifact or two to craft them, iirc.

>>47669068
Dark Focus' were meant to be untyped bonuses, and were corrected to such in the print edition and the final PDF when that gets uploaded for people to use. Again, we're very sorry for the delay.

>>47669072
A game where the DM lets me play my dumbass builds without banning them because they use an unarchetyped Fighter.

>>47669068
It's a known error and entirely unintended, and will be fixed with the next pdf.

>>47668130

mite b cool. Try running with a Mauler archetyped familiar, maybe? Clockwork spies have crazy strength (10) for tiny creatures, so they would get a big boost for being Mauler'd. If you're small, you can even ride around on it in it's combat form.

>>47669089
Starting gear can include them.

>>47669061

Cool nail design a martial character who can do more than one thing ever.

How exactly does the Lance and its double damage when charging function? Do you roll 1d8 + static damage and then multiply by 2, or do you roll 2d8 + (static damage x 2)? Does it double the damage gained from Power Attack?

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>>47669072

All DSP. Paizo classes are banned.

>>47669072
its a innistrad / bloodborne / gothic campaign were kick dracthulla's ass

>>47669108
Marshal was posted last thread.

>>47669107
>Starting gear can include them.
Source?

>>47669108
Use PoW or Marshal.

>>47669111
You take your damage, yeah?

You gather it all up. Gather it aaaaaall up.

You put it together.

Then you double it.

>>47669061
Any recommendations for which classes and/or archetypes may be trap options for this?

I was thinking Dragoon Fighter or Gendarme Cavalier, but is there a better option?

>>47669111
Roll and add all modifiers like you normally would, then double the final total

I have a question. I am trying to stat an Iron Chest rather than a Wooden Chest.

From what I can tell it should do the following:
>Hardness goes from 5 to 10
>HP triples

What I can't figure out is how much it should weigh and cost. I am finding it impossible to find the price of lumber in PF.

>>47669072

One that's not necessarily PFS-compliant.

>>47669108
>>47669108
>design a martial character who can do more than one thing ever.

here

>>47664254

>>47669136
>Source?
Isn't starting gear free-to-spend? I actually have no idea.

>>47669072

Text only online game using roll20 that does not require me to run the game, has a very dedicated and motivated dungeon master, players who take the game and the story seriously enough while still allowing for some brevity, and allows both first-party and certain third-party materials such as path of War. The game will run once a week at a set time during mid afternoon and going a ways into the evening but not late. Everyone will arrive early and Converse prior to the game as well as after the game during the interim period between sessions. Myself and possibly others will provide artwork and music for the game, the GM will produce Maps and a detailed well-thought-out and consistent game world if we are not using pre-established material.

Ironically I would probably end up playing first party material anyway because that is where most of my ideas have been trending.

>>47669012
Hi, anon! You've got a number of class and option choices.

If you want the strongest MOUNT possible, your best option is probably the humble Hunter class. You take a BAB hit but you'll barely feel it when your roc/allosaurus/animal you desire purely for aesthetic reasons butchers things twice its size with you. Outflank, Paired Opportunist, Pack Flanking, Precise Something or Other, you're golden!

Another option is the base summoner, or because you'll probably have to, the unchained summoner. 3/4ths BAB, powerful monster thing, and it looks cool as fuck. Good times!

If you love getting in there yourself and mixing it up on a serious basis, accept no substitutes: the Ambush Hunter Ranger (remember Boon Companion, and that it allows you to splash a level of anything Wis-based because you have an extra +1 druid level) or the Hussar archetype for the Warlord (glorious!) or Warder (unstoppable!) are both awesome. I generally prefer the Ambush Hunter but to be honest I dismount a lot for flanking, because you recover maneuvers and get huge damage buffs for doing that. Doesn't interfere with Mounted combat style, which is good because Trick Riding is a solid early grab.

If you don't want your mount to steal ANY of the glory, there's the Omen Rider Harbinger, who has basically a weird tanky summon that cannot attack at all but that's fine, it's fast and you're murderous. The Ravenlord Harbinger eventually gets to ride their very intelligent bird but Gareth ruined it forever when he took away the size change stat bonuses (admittedly it was pretty fucking strong with those) and you have to wait a long time and it's very supernatural.

ALSO AND NOBODY KNOWS THIS BUT ME, the Akashic Mysteries supplement playtest includes an animal companion archetype called the Buraq. I'll just hit you with the highlight: Robe of the Forgotten Deity for (by level 6) 25-35% constant miss chance for both of you. Other veils are great too! And it can fly eventually!

>>47669021
But surely you can play the class that already does all of that, Kineticist! [insert meme face here]
Jokes aside, it'll probably take a while since I'm trying to keep at least part of the modularity of the Vigilante version, which is going to mean talents out the ass. If there's anything in particular you want from it let me know.

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>>47669194
>mfw this is the games I'm in, except we're in irc instead of roll20

>>47669161
>d20 hp
>whatever the fuck BAB that is
This is just getting silly now. It used to be something you could even slip by a DM, now nobody's going to allow it.

>>47669194
If I didn't feel sceptical about random people from 4chins, I'd invite you to my campaign.

>>47669205
>. If there's anything in particular you want from it let me know.
Mystic bolts that aren't a piece of shit.

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>>47669209

Enjoy it for us, Anon.

>>47669209
>That one sheep nibbling on the tail

>>47669214
Its just some anons getting silly with it
When I get home from work I might purge it again.

>>47669214
I guess you could always just go for a lightning warrior. They're a bit subpar, but they've got some fantastic fluff attached to them.

>>47669209

Lucky ducky.

I like my battle maps and jukebox too much though.

>>47669214
This is why you never allow your docs to be editable by people at all. The fucking zir shitposter got into it.

>>47669201
Oh I've never really given Hunter much of a look. I love the idea of a Roc mount now.

>>47669215

Eh, I've met better people on 4chan than I have gitp or roll20. But understandable.

>>47669244
Just purge and lock it, and put it back to how it was originally.

>>47669269
>>47669282
It's all comments anyway, that can be purged easily enough.

>>47669269
added more just for you sweetie

>>47669294
It is, but it's still annoying.

>>47669272
Don't have too much fun or Paizo will shit on your dreams, but yeah, they're totally stealth awesome. Druid buffs, ranger...well fuck ranger spells but whatever, and those disgusting shared teamwork feats. Plus you can save some gold on enhancement bonus items for your fluffy darling.

>>47669250
They don't get a familiar, literally unplayable.

>>47669250
>no school specialization
TIER

EIGHT

>>47669068
I played the class a bit while writing and polishing it, so take my synopsis from that POV.

The GSM is focused around the Impact ability. Through it, you put out a lot of battlefield control and a half-decent chunk of damage (though not enough, even at max, to really be called a striker).

The pet is the same way. It is meant to run around tagging people with touch attacks to deliver Impact effects, and to full-attack when it gets the opportunity.

>>47669327
Sometimes you just have to trade power for role-playing. We're not all min-maxing munchkins here.

>>47668340
Speaking of I need a good image for an ethumion avant guard in a Jojo pose.

>>47669321

Would you play hunter or the path of War archetype Ambush Hunter, if you wanted a kick-ass pet?

I have also been looking at the fey sorcerer with Boon Companion...

Eventually I would put all of these in the mammoth Rider Prestige class.

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>>47669346
Is having eaten a Jojo close enough?

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>>47669346

>>47669346
Male or female? I need one too.

PROTIP: To view a document with no comments, go into viewing mode instead of suggesting mode.

>>47669294
This
Its nothing to hassle about and even if it was open to free editing, there always would have the revisions thingy to fix everything up.

also

>""post" ""serious" homebrew""
>0 replies

>post joke
>anon 1, 2 and 3 copied your document.

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>>47669346

>>47669214
>>47669309

Anon you know you can filter out all the corrections with the green button on the top-right

>>47669344
THE MIGHT OF STORMWIND

Is a mounted Magus viable? They could use Spell Combat while they use their lance one handed, and I feel like it would be a nice departure from the Dervish Dancer everyone knows.

>>47669411
It's gotta be a 1h slashing weapon, I thought?

>>47669437
You're thinking of bladebound magus.

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>>47669346

>>47668177
Can we even have in-training wizards who are able to blow ANYTHING up?

You'd need to have access to a spell above 1st level at least. That was the domain of what, Precocious Apprentice? We don't get that anymore.

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>>47669346

What is the worst possible T1 build?

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>>47669229
>Mystic bolts that aren't a piece of shit.
Well I should hopefully at least have that part covered, anon. That's pretty much the whole point of rewriting it into a separate class, after all. It might be redundant in terms of function, but Mystic Bolts don't deserve the treatment they got.

I intend to make a magical girl archetype after I get the base class's initial stuff worked out. Cha-based spontaneous instead of Int-based prepared, maybe with a special utility-focused familiar guide.

>>47669480
I want Helen to bear my children

>>47669480
>those childbearing hips
oh mama

>>47669369
Male
>>47669397
That will have to do if nothing better shows up.
>>47669458
Something better showed up it would seem.

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>>47669483
Ezren

>>47669483
The Wizard who exclusively prepares Heightened Acid Splash.

>>47669501
Tbqh I don't even give a damn about the spellcasting bit, I just want to fling cool mystic bolts.
Maybe an archetype without spellcasting which focuses on the bolts super-hard? With initiating and EFlux/Solar Wind to boost them.

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>>47669505

She's been getting plenty of chad-zak, that's for sure.

>>47669483
The Wizard who puts his spellbook down and forgets where he left it.

>>47669504
>>47669505
>hipmind

>>47669480

But that's a drow.

A super-cutie drow with some admittedly wonderful hips, but a drow nonetheless.

>>47669483
A wizard with Conjuration as a banned school

>>47669543
Actually that isn't THAT bad.

>>47669582
more like dikcmind

>>47669586
For an undead only dungeon? He's doing NOTHING AT ALL.

>>47669586
>filename

I gotta say, anon, it's pretty bad

>>47669572
Funnily enough, that is one of the archetypes I'm considering. The problem with that is that I've never used any DSP stuff, only looked into it, so trying to make the archetype might be a bit troublesome.

>>47669558
I had a character once that actual had heightened acid splash as part of the build. 3.5 though.

>>47669643
This is one of the few times as wizard were he will have a bad time. Let him savour it.

>>47669362
Hunter. Rangers can't have allosauruses.

>>47669653
Maybe we can bully Gareth into helping you with designing the archetype.

>>47669643
>>47669652
Honestly his build isn't bad, the only thing I would change is he prepare detect undead instead. He'd just have to get by not doing much. At level 1 a wizard doesn't have that many spells so he can't simply have something for everything. Undead are a big gap, but understandable at first level.

>>47668227
About an hour into the game the GM sent us an email saying he had "important family things this week" (actual quote) and so wouldn't be able to run for the next week or two.

Given this was to be session one, I'm calling it right now: Vaporware fake game.

>>47669687
>AC is literally 9
>CMD also 9
>is rolling flat d20 to hit at best
>doesn't even have a scroll of magic missile
>doesn't have burning hands
>didn't prepare acid splash or jolt cantrips

He will be doing nothing at all, anon.

>>47669653
Initiating is better than 4th-level casting from a good list, but not better than 6th-level casting from a good list. It makes a mental attribute very important and it effectively increases the feat needs of a character by 1-3.

>>47669653
Also, what do you think about a Psionic archetype? It would have few powers known and focus heavily on elemental damage.

>>47669760
I was actually thinking of working on some Psionic classes similar to the Warmage, Dread Necromancer, and Beguiler. Full Manifesters with much more narrow and focused power list and some new abilities.

>>47669786
I like the idea.

>>47669747
What he prepared doesn't really matter as one can simply change that.

As for his AC/HP. Honestly a level 1 wizard doesn't expect much better. With mage armor it goes up to 13, but really at max you should be expecting 16 as a level 1 wizard (and that's with an investment in dex).

Acid splash is useless compared to a light crossbow honestly which he does in fact have.

He isn't worse off than most level 1 wizards would be if you didn't specifically know you were going to be fighting undead. Most people don't generally grab undead tech level 1.

>>47669653
Well the Cryptic is very weak on the 'mystic bolts' side, but is basically a psionic warlock.

The Kineticist didn't give us what we wanted either...

>>47669786
Seems nice, after all the game really need more casters

>>47669804
Crossbows do piercing, for one, and don't hit touch.

If it is indeed an undead dungeon, he'd have issues with DR even if he did hit, whereas acid splash is far more reliable.

>>47669822
Very true, changing out for acid splash would be better than.

>>47669152
Asking again. So from what I can figure the weight increases by a factor of 8. This seems a little ridiculous as a large chest then weighs 800 pounds. The weights for chests in PF seem off in general. Even one with only 4 cubic feet of space weighs 400 pounds.

As for the price from what I can tell it should roughly double.

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>>47669747
In fairness, he does have a scroll of Burning Hands. It's something. But I would agree that he should've changed out Daze for some sort of damage cantrip in the events that his crossbow doesn't work out for him. Ideally Disrupt Undead since that can destroy Bloody Skeletons in the off-chance that they were to show up, not to mention having easily higher damage potential in an undead dungeon. Still tho, I wouldn't give him flak for prepping Sleep; you never know when you need Sleep at early levels.

>>47669868
When you up a WEAPON'S size it doubles, not x8, the weight.

Hope that helps.

>>47669898
I'm not increase the size. I'm changing the material from wood to iron.

>>47669480
remove loincloth remove loincloth loincloth is worst garment

>>47669949
If I recall, she IS actually naked, and just has the illusion of clothes.

That or she's actually wearing armor and has the illusion of near-nudity. I forget which.

>>47669989
I think it's the second one.

>>47669989
Doesn't she just wear a bunch of poison tattoos?

>>47669989
i want to dispel that illusion if you know what I mean

>>47669944
Are you sure you're not looking at a conversion that increases the weight as though it were a solid block of iron, rather than a box?

You could math it out by figuring what % of the total volume is empty, and applying that to the weight.

>>47670030
>>47670032
Anyone else find it funny we saw Elsbeth in lewd before seeing Helen in lewd?

>>47669543
Why does he have +1 Reflex? Shouldn't it be -1?

>>47670040
I looked at the weight of the box and made the assumption that it is solid wood. Iron is ~8 times the density of wood. So I multiplied the weight by a factor of 8 thinking it would take up approximately the same amount of space.

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>>47670050
>wanting to see helen lewds

>>47670060
Weasel familiar gives a +2 bonus

>>47669321
>fuck ranger spells

Shitter detected

>>47670050
Elsbeth in lewd?! And I missed it?!

>>47670071
An iron box would not need as thick of walls to support itself or protect its contents, though.

>>47670097
She has inverted nipples.

>>47670076
Why /does/ it say "Sneak (Weasel)" under familiar???

>>47670125
I assume his Weasel familiar's name is Sneak. You would think he would choose a more appropriate name, like Merisiel.

>>47669747
>Has a scroll of burning hands

Nice reading comprehension

>>47670125
Because he named his familiar, a weasel, Sneak.

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>>47670073

Helen is next to nude, drop dead gorgeous, and has a cute personality. Top that off with being a fey sorcerer, so you know she'll be fun to be around? It'd almost be an insult to not think of her lewdly. That said, I find it very sad we have never had a good view of her booty. Clothed or otherwise.

>>47670137
>spoiler
kek

>>47670138
>doesn't have it in his spellbook
Thus, he doesn't /have/ it. Nice reading comprehension.

Starting Hell's Rebels soon and I could use some class advice for my upcoming terrorist.

Right now I'm considering Admixture Wizard, or Grenadier Alchemist, but I'm open to other suggestions, or advice.

Main goal really is ranged blasty damage.

>>47670097
http://bc-draws.tumblr.com/image/143549738807

>>47670188
Grenadier Alchemist. Take the Implant Bomb feat. Convince fellow rebels to give their lives to the cause.

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>>47670161
Something could be arranged. Got a bit of a workload to handle a few expenses amongst others student loans catching up and the like, but I do need the practice.

>>47670188
Very large amounts of poison may not be any good against anything past the lowest levels...

But they can be extremely effective at removing helpless civilians.

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>>47669574

What is "chad-zak?"

>>47670243
Google says it's the orgasmic feeling drow mothers get when their unborn children kill each other in the womb.

>>47670255
...
...
...
GODDAMNIT CRYSTAL

>>47670243
>>47670255
They had an article on their culture in Dragon Magazine #298 that really emphasized the darker side of drow culture. Want a sample? According to this lore, drow don't die out because, despite their tendency to murder and torture each other, they're as fertile as orcs, with females normally conceiving twins and triplets. They normally only birth a single baby, though, because the strongest usually kills and absorbs the others in the womb; these prenatal struggles actually produce orgasms more intense than anything a drow female might feel elswhere. This sensation, chad-zak, is explicitly called out as the main reason why drow women are willing to get pregnant at all, considering the selfish power-hungry bitches they generally are.

>>47670263
>crystal

Not actually her doing.

>>47670265
And Paizo wrote Dragon Magazine. Nice.

>>47670265
I remember some shit for 4e succubi that said smelling their afterbirth made you cum so hard you died. Shit gets really weird.

>>47670230

Very tempting. Still using the same email for commissions?

>>47670216

Oh this is just so devious I fucking love it. Any other ideas?

>>47670320
Get one of her bending over for ass and pussy.

>>47670100
Yes which means I have no idea how to stat such a container. If I keep it as the same HP it should be 1/3 of the thickness, and thus 1/3 of the weight.

>>47670289
I know, but it felt so good allcapsing it.

>>47670322

Tell the good folks at the Paizo boards about it. See how long it takes for them to nuke the thread from orbit for being "problematic".

>>47670350
See how long it takes for captainyesterday or whoever to start shitting himself and crying.

>>47670322
I mean that's really the big one, although you could take the Tainted Infusion discovery and pass out infusions of Detonate for triple bombs, since the target needs to die for the implanted bomb to trigger. Also, take Poison Bomb and implant those.

There's also the Alchemical Sapper archetype from UI which might be handy since you could potentially level buildings with it, in which case grabbing the Remote Bomb feat could be handy.

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>>47670350
>>47670377
Never forget

Ok /pfg/

Barbarian or Unchained Barbarian?

>>47670322
Blightburn's a bit too expensive...

Ground Viridium would be a slow but hilarious thing to add to the water-table and/or local eateries...

A bit of the stuff (and blightburn if you can) is a WONDERFUL addition to any bomb or dispersal...

>>47670417
Barbarian

>>47670289
Nah, that was James "7 Wisdom is the hottest thing ever" Jacobs.

>>47670343
Sounds reasonable.

Alternatively, a cauldron of flying can fit 2 medium humanoids and only weighs 100lbs, so that might be a good basis as well.

>>47670346
I think I can understand that sensation.

>>47670417
Barbarian. Unchained isn't as good.

>>47670426
It's totally yes when she's too addled to say no.

>>47670390

Well ultimately I'd like to be effective in actual combat, not just for dramatic acts of terror.

I really can't say no to Implant Bomb though. Hell, I could even spend the money to implant one into all of us in the party, and get everyone a cyanide pill or something in case they get captured.

Of course it's totally unlikely, but it's a hell of a contingency.

>>47670410
>luke skywalker the terrorist article

Thank fucking god someone had the sense to post that.

>>47670419
>Leprosy everywhere

Does blightburn's teleport-lock apply to, say, someone trying to summon the angelic hordes?

>>47670320
I am, actually. Might take a smidge to get to new commissions until I have my previous batch done, but I'm approaching the color phase on those.

>>47669309
Its done.

>>47670448
That's the thing, Implant and Remote Bomb are two feats out of 10/11, and Alchemists don't really need them to be effective in combat.

Also if you want to do some shenanigans, either convince your party to take Tenacious Survivor or take the Chirurgeon archetype, then combine Breath of Life with a Cure spell on a Healing bomb. Instant re-ups on death, though it's pretty high level when you can pull it off.

>>47670503

Sweet. I'll send an email now.

>>47670339

Please, if I wanted blatant porn I'd just go to Motherless. I've got something much more fun in mind.

>>47670536
>much more fun
Nice.

How bullshit would an ability that explicitly ignores Evasion/Improved Evasion be?

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>>47670410
I never visited Paizo forums. Now I'm glad I didnt.

>>47670623
Pretty fucking bullshit.

Then again, >enervation

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>>47669683
>>47669753
>>47669760
>>47669816
>People are actually genuinely interested in this
>mfw the version I have now is still a total clusterfuck

Trying to keep two sets of "talents" like the vigilante has is far more tedious than expected.

>>47670650
It shouldn't be surprising
We wanted a simple, blasty, happy warlock.

First, we got none. And it was not good.
Then eventually came the cryptic. But it was not a warlock, and the blastiness it was not good.
Finally we are told what we have hoped for all along now comes. Finally, our warlock comes. And the kineticist appears. And we saw it was not good.

We have, effectively, been cockblocked thrice for a warlock.

>>47670410
fucking cancer holy shit

>>47669786
So Vitalist and Tactician?

>>47670697
Does the DSP kineticist count?

>>47670759
Kinda. These classes won't have a collective mechanic, and are more focused around 1 or two disciplines.

>>47670763
The Avant Garde... I don't think it quite does the trick.

The Gambler though... That's different. The Gambler does effectively have the warlock's "all day". However its blasts suck... But the "rider effect" on them can be fully manfiested blast powers...

I think maybe it can.

>>47670697
Unfortunately I don't think I'll deliver quite on "a pathfinder warlock", since I'm trying to just make the Vigilante's archetype be... Well, not shit. Hopefully whatever the result is will at least be something /pfg/ can find enjoyable.

Welp, that was a thing. I just saw a level 1 team of a ranger, titan mauler barbarian, and general take down the Black Seraph Owlbear without taking a scratch.

>>47670934
Incidentally, you've prompted me to get back into my Spheres conversions of the casting archetypes.

My Warlock's taking cues from a Blaster's arm cannon. What's your take?

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>>47671023
To be perfectly honest? I just wanted to take the Vigilante's take on the class for the most part. Obviously the dual identity and appearance abilities have to go, but the rest should work if I just shuffle things around a little and add in some new talents. Though the Fire Emblem mages are a bit of an inspiration, especially for one potential archetype.

>/pfg/ is finally dying
at last

>>47671196
Dying down you mean?

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>>47671196
Oh, come now, anon.

You didn't think you'd get rid of us THAT easily, did you?

>>47671217
I did hope.

>>47671213
That too.

>>47671196
>>47671236

I'm sure there'll be some new release or errata that fills us with righteous fury soon enough.

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This Thri-Kreen Dervish dancer slaps your clerics ass, what do

>>47671412
>Thri-kreen

That ain't no mantis man, anon

Is there any way to use Weapon Finesse with a Lance other than with 9 levels of Fighter?

>>47671412

Putting aside the fact that that's a Final Fantasy, not a Thri-Kreen, our cleric is a Lamashtan-she'd probably be quite all right with that.

>>47671470
5 levels of Fighter and spending a feat to get Extra Advanced Weapon Training. If Path of War is on the table, 1 level of Stalker to get the Killer's Implements Stalker Art.

>>47671412
>Thri-Kreen
And this, young apprentices, is what a failed Knowledge (Nature) check looks like

>>47669105
But then you get auto improved familiar at level 7 and suddenly you can't have mauler anymore.

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>>47668340
I'm actually going a Psychic (with the Psychic Duelist archetype) for my stand-user.
The main idea is that my stand is only visible to non-stand users (ie; everyone else) within the mindscape dimension of psychic duels (as a manifestation).

>>47668365
The theme for my spells is going to be mainly illusions/mind-affecting abilities.

Does anyone have suggestions for an evocative psychic/illusion stand that would work as spell-casting fluff?
Or would you even want one of your PCs to invent such a needless aspect of his character?

>>47671496
Doesn't /pfg/ always scream REFLUFF when it comes to shit like this?

It's a four armed bug person. And honestly your going to have to refluff a thri-keen as something else sine I'm pretty sure they do not exist outside of Dark Sun.

>>47671556
Congrats, you can now lock down any enemy while your party Coup De Graces them unless every boss is now a Psychic Duelist

>>47671579
Neither person is helpless when in a Psychic Duel, so no CdGing

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For the anon asking a few days back: Vilderavn beguiler order has officially been confirmed.

>http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qmqe&page=13?Beguiler-conversion-for-Pathfinder#643

>>47671617
But they are dazed, so it's close enough.

>>47671617
Unless its an immersive planescape.

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>>47671412
I'd learn them some actual style and aesthetic sense, I tell you that much.

>>47671638
The enemy is flat-footed and can't take any actions yeah, but so are you. The enemy can do exactally what you want to do as well.

>>47671642
>Unless its an immersive planescape.
Which aren't usable in a Psychic Duel

>>47671412
>filename
>watermark
>thinking that's even close to thri-kreen
0/10

>>47671702
Not if you're a psychic lich.

Here's a question for you PfG:

If I'm going for the Bushi class template for one who uses KATANA, am I better off taking the Warder/Dervish Defender or Stalker/Vigilante?

>>47671412
The cleric would kill it himself if he had a problem and move on with his life having suffered no lasting harm.

>>47671716
>Stalker/Vigilante
Did you mean Vigilante/Stalker?

Sound Striker + Duettist Bard seems interesting. My familiar can use sound strike while I keep attacking, meaning I essentially get a good deal of free damage. My familiar can be a tiny mobile turret.

If I wanted to dismount, but didn't have a free move action to do it, would it be possible to attempt a controlled fall from the saddle as a free action, making a Ride or Acrobatics check to land on my feet?

>>47671716
I think stalker gave up the least and got the most out of the template? But it really depends what you want out of the build.

Can Flyby Attack be used with a Charge like Ride-by-Attack can, or is it strictly worse?

>>47671775
Vigilante can't take the Bushi template, Stalker can, and Vigilante is its archetype.

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Aaaaaaallrighty, /pfg/

Warlock Guy prompted me to get back into fiddling with Spheres Archetypes of casting Vigilantes, and so here's what I got for Warlock.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jNC6Z3p7AA-tjkBsp0lDuBT3YRoJQzOeqr9fuyF0QAk/edit?usp=sharing

As mentioned, cues taken from Blaster Armorist, but with some differences around the shop considering 3/4 CL instead of 1/2.

>>47671883
Yeah, but archetypes are generally said first, due to being an adjective of sorts. It's a Soundstriker Bard, not a Bard Soundstriker. Thus, a Stalker with the Vigilante archetype is a Vigilante Stalker, while a Vigilante with the Stalker Specialization is a Stalker Vigilante.

>>47669072
A game that takes place in castlevania where the party's goal is to kill dracula, or a time-travelling campaign with robots and cavemen.

>>47671840
Yeah, it's called a fast dismount, DC 20.

Have you even read the ride skill?

>>47672009
>Caveman Barbarian
>Robot Gunslinger
>Robot eventually teaches Caveman how to speak Common
>Caveman returns home after adventure, teaches his tribe Common.
>Stable Timeloop Engage

>>47672012
The idea was that there is no available move action in the round you need to dismount.

>>47672085
So don't fail the ride check?

>>47672098
Fast Dismount takes a free action, but is only usable if you have at least a move action left.

>>47672098
It says that you have to have a move action available to attempt the check in the first place.

Was there a Paizo spell that let you change the material of weapon? Kinda like masterwork transformation but for special material.

Ie. turning normal Iron Longsword into Adamantine Longsword.

I thought I saw one in arcane anthology but I can't find it.

How can we optimize Sonic Thrust for damage outside of colossal weapons

I have 160gp to spend on mundane items at level 1, what should I get?

>>47672172
Versatile Weapon i believe

>>47672234
What class/race are you?

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>>47669072
An ERP run by my SO that rewards my victories with Manly Husbandos and my losses with monster cuddling
Unfortunately he dislikes mixing Dice and ERP so the chances of that happening are slim.

Runner up is just a game with some of my old highschool friends. They were the first people I DM'd for but we kinda drifted apart and scattered across the country and now our schedules never line up.

>>47672246
Human Bard

>>47672383
condoms

>>47672383
You'll probably need a Masterwork Musical Instrument. It's 100gp and gives a +2 to Perform checks with it.

At around what level should players be able to afford customizations for their weapons?

If I have a Masterwork rapier, and I'm level 7, how long can I expect to wait, on average, before I'll have the money to pay someone to make it +1, Dispelling, and Bane (Construct)? Because my personal wealth amounts to maybe 400 gold and a few thousand more in gear split with my group.

>>47672516
by level 7 a character should have approx 23,500 gp in equipment.

>>47672537
I am absolutely positive my GM is gypping us on that front. But he says that the sum amount of wealth of gear we've looted so far in the Iron Gods adventure path (We're halfway through the second book) matches up with the wealth table, except that's per player, and we're a 5 person group. I personally spend almost no gold (though I am 28 CR5 souls in debt to Asmodeus), and I am sure I should have more than I do, but I can't be sure.

>>47671907
I write them as Bard (Soundstriker), myself.

>>47672571
your net worth, YOUR PERSONAL NET WORTH should be about 23500

That is not split among 5 people.

>>47672440
What do Perform checks even do? Inspire Courage is checkless and so are spells. Any other performances are useless.

What is the most efficient way to put out a fire without using any spells higher than 4th level and without a natural water source?

>>47672440
Have that already. Did such parents so I already bought my essentials.

>>47672647
You can make money with them.

>>47672672
You can use perform checks to replace other skill checks as you level up so a +2 to one stat can act as a +2 to 3 more valuable stats IIRC.

>>47671636
I just saw that! Thanks for the heads up, anon.

>>47671315
>spacefinder when

>>47673013
2017

>>47671489
Killer's Implements is so goddamn nice, man

If we gave all 6th-level casters full BAB and d10 HD, what kind of changes would this make to their tier ratings?

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>>47673013
Hey, hopefully the technology in starfinder won't be s... no, it'll be shit, I can't even lie to myself.

>>47673046
None. It doesn't really give them more options. Most could already participate in combat and it doesn't make them more powerful either.

>>47673046
Still tier 3.

>>47673046
Being easier and more forgiving to play doesn't really change tiers much. The biggest impact is actually getting your combat feats in a decent timeframe due to BAB requirements.

>>47673093
Are there good combat feats?

>>47673048
Whenever you roll a 1 your spaceship explodes.

>>47673106
No but you need them to enable your flavorful shitty fighting styles.

>>47673112
Now, to be fair that only happens for advanced space crafts. For the setting only regular spacecrafts are common which explode on a roll of 1-4

>>47673029
>2017
Too soon

>>47673048
I believe it

>>47673106
Power attack.

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I finished my character.

Can you all look it over?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lbuxf7fYJdcJ07ZREs3mOEmzuwULGKQqZxqQl0HqhXU/edit?usp=sharing

Did I miss anything for his gear? Any advice?

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/a/awaken-construct
>You amplify the animating force of a construct to more closely resemble a true soul, granting the construct humanlike sentience.
>humanlike sentience
>3d6 int
>sentience
Paizo for fucks sake

>>47673641
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/a/awaken-construct
The charisma gives them sentience, not the int.

I did not even realize this archetype exists. It's so trash.

>>47673672
sentience is what squirrels have
sapience is what humans have
to be "aware" is sapience
the spell is to make an inanimate "aware" not just alive

>>47673708
So trash I forgot the archetype:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/bard/archetypes/paizo---bard-archetypes/arrowsong-minstrel-bard

>>47673641
>>47673672
Ahh, just like Awaken itself, the fun that can be had with Maximize/Empower.

>>47673803
?

Its an absolutely fine archetype if you want to make a more blasty Bard with a hint of Magus

Its not great but its a decent BLASTY bard, and if thats what you want its by far the best archetype for it.

>>47668227
Well, I claimed a cape of the mountebank from the party treasure. I decided to jump on the back of a 5 headed pyro-hydra, then use the cape to take me an the hydra 700' above an enemy ettin. Well, I lost the grapple with the hydra, and fell with it.
Prior to this I had prepared a bomb using my portable alchemists kit, some gunpowder, and a few vials of alchemist's fire I had laying around.
Needless to say this bomb, along with the cape and a magic weapon impacted the ettin along with the hydra.
I ended the encounter at least.

Can I use arcane bond on Shadowcraft weapon?

Is this combo legit?

Eldritch Archer + Enervation spell + Enervative Shadow Craft Weapon + Named Bullet.

>>47673803
How did you forgot "Asian girl want to be an idol but her parents want her to be a Wizard" the archetype?

>>47673599
Any thoughts?

Best VMC for an archer bard?

>>47674098
none. Archery need shit ton of feat.

>>47674130
Point blank, Deadly Aim, Precise Shot, Rapid Shot, Multi Shot

Am I forgetting any?

>>47674144
Improved Precise Shot, eventually, and Clustered Shots if you can afford it, but it's low priority.

>>47674144
Wouldn't cluster shot or something help get around DR?

Is it wrong that before my Bard-a-din casts to set up her Sonic Thrust/Smite evil combo I want to cast Major image to give myself a stage, lights, and background music and go full IDOLRU before i fucking skewer some fuck to death with a flurry of rapiers

>>47674251
Just ask your DM if you can make a custom item of free action SFX

>>47674251
You need a partner.

https://youtu.be/IvYY8VAs_vI

>>47674296
goddamnit /m/ not the lolibots.

>>47674312
I mean I got other bots if you want em.

https://youtu.be/PqjLbA5YINg

Man, how the hell would you even work combination attacks in a system like Pathfinder anyway? I can't see it working as anything but having to be done on a case by case basis, if it were to be an actual special attack and not just one person doing something to help the other.

>>47674414
would need to be some sort of special homebrew rule, two players would have to be close enough to eachother to perform it

In addition it would likely have to take up the turn of the partner in the combo, IE

Init order is

player 1

enemy

player 2

a combo would have to use player 1 and player 2's turns

so the action chart would look like

Player 1 (combo)

enemy

player 2 (turn used in combo, skipped)

player 1

enemy

player 2

It could be done i'm sure, would be interesting homebrew.

>>47674432
Mm. That or take Readied actions. So player 1 readies, then player 2 starts the actual attack.

>>47674451
same concept either way

>>47674414
Teamwork feat and ready action.

Here are some example.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/teamwork-feats/elemental-commixture-teamwork

http://www.archivesofnethys.com/FeatDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Interweave%20Composite%20Blast

>>47674465
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/teamwork-feats/elemental-commixture-teamwork

>tying it to feats

Can Paizo do ANYTHING right?

>>47674476
No

>>47674496
seriously why would they tie this to FEATS of all things.

Fucking just make it a cool flavor optional rule

Imagine if your mage cast lightning bolt and let your fighter swing that shit like a sword as a combo, that would be sick nobody gives a fuck if its a mechanically more powerful move.

>>47674476
I don't have an issue with it being tied to feats, I have an issue with Elemental Commixture being way more complex than it needs to be.

I guess that's a side effect of vancian.

It'd probably be easier to do in something like Spheres.

>>47673599

Looks solid overall. Can't find any glaring faults. I personally don't like saving finale, but with your wis 8 it's a reasonable investment. 8.5/10.

>>47674522
Saving Finale is actually so good.

>>47674508
I mean, you kinda do give a fuck. If it's something you can do any time and it's always superior to the mage just shooting a lightning bolt normally and the warrior just swinging their weapon normally, you've designed a situation where players are encouraged to always perform the combo attack. Which means it's not something cool or special, it's something you constantly every round. That cheapens it and makes it routine.

>>47673599
>10 CON
>male bard
>fort +0
>Rich Parents aka most worthless trait ever
2/10 apply yourself

>>47674514
in reality 3.5/pf is just a terrible system for combos because combos are generally something you want to have happen rarely, have a build up to, be a big finisher. You need some system where you build up points in battle and when both players have enough a combo can happen

>>47674558
basically outlines the problems yeah.

>>47674530

I know it's extremely good, but he's doing a very aggressive ranged bard. Saving finale is strictly defensive. At first level, when he has next to no B. performance rounds and rocket tag/shanktown is in effect? Better to drop enemies before they can force the saves. I'll extoll picking it up at level 3 or so, but it just feels too early in the build for it in my opinion.

And I do realize that I phrased my statement wrong earlier. My apologies.

>>47674574
oh is he in rusty dagger shanktown

Fuck that nigga needs some color spray

>>47674573
It's not an impossible design problem to solve, but it is a difficult one. If big finishing combo attacks were keyed to a rage bar mechanic that had to fill up during combat at a rate where it's unlikely for routine fights to fill it, but climactic or protracted battles might, that could work- though it would be a such a situational ability you definitely shouldn't charge character resources (important, permanent ones like class features, anyway) for the privilege of using it.

>>47674637
if it were to be added it would have to be a completely optional add-on system imo, something that goes over top the existing to work.

>>47674476
>>47674465

How i've done it in Path of War was by using Mithral Current and putting silver vulnerability on an enemy, then an ally with a silver weapon uses their strike on the follow up.

I've also done some shenanigans with Riven Hourglass or otherwise set up debuffs prior to an ally going.

>>47674625
Bards don't get color spray. They don't get a lot of nice toys period.

>>47674571
Could change out my familiar to move it to a +2 fort save. Unfortunately being an archer I am already strapped for ability scores. I could lower charisma and free up 5 points, but I really feel 16 if a bare minimum unless I never plan on having anyone try and make fail a save ever. In addition my skills suffer, and because of versatile performance I cover a lot of bases with charisma.

>>47674746
Honestly, you probably shouldn't bother trying to force saves. It's a losing battle already since you're behind on spell levels and have other ability scores to focus on. 14 is really the highest your Charisma needs to be, and bards only really need a 12 or 13.

>>47674746
Could change his stats to the following:

Str: 14
Dex: 16
Con: 14
Int: 12
Wis: 8
Cha: 14

Honestly though that is some low Cha for a bard.

>>47674746
Grease then

>>47674773
Again, my save DCs are abysmal because I can't invest up to 20 Cha unless I just say goodbye to my ability to shoot a bow. Save DCs are not a winner's battle for everyone but full casters because spell levels don't scale as well.

I could give up firing a bow and using any dex skills and instead be a pure caster with 20 Cha, but honestly the one extra grease a day isn't that appealing. I only get 2 spells to begin with.

>>47674784
you're in rusty dagger shanktown right now, spells can be replaced later

Grease.

>>47674784
>>47674769
Another thing, what can I grab over Duettist to be a better ranged combatant without sacrificing Bardic Knowledge? I need to cover our group's collective asses for skills likely as no one is int based or a high sill rank class besides me.

>>47674800
Arcane Duelist gives up Bardic Knowledge, but is the single best archetype available for bow bards.

>>47674808
Arcane Duelist is really the single best archetype for Combat bards, period.