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Previous thread: >>47624958
FAQ: http://pastebin.com/vrqYhnpu
Here's a dropbox with a LOT of CYOA's:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9ijwopa42ke49q1/AAA40vUS2BzstD9eHyyBLTr8a?dl=0
IRC Chat Channel
https://client01.chat.mibbit.com/?url=irc%3A%2F%2Firc.rizon.net%2Fcyoa

Post any questions you have about making CYOAs below.
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What's the best-written CYOA?
Which is the best visually?
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>>47633197
Alice.
Hell if I know, probably Kingdom Crusher/Diplomacy.
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>>47633197
>What's the best-written CYOA?
Last Star probably
>Which is the best visually?
Monster Hunter.

>>47633145
I have a question, what do people think of multiple currencies like in Solar Inheritance? Is it interesting or pointless?
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Welp here's the updated version

also in case anyone missed the poll
http://www.strawpoll.me/10408204
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>>47633238
What classes do you guys think need to be buffed up?
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>>47633251
If you guys have the time I would love to hear why you choose or didn't choose certain companions
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>>47633273
also if you name your characters and write a little bit about them there's a good chance I'll put them in an expansion as companions
(if you want that is)
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>>47633145
What the fuck am I reading?
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>>47633293
This was also my first real attempt at trying to write in some form of lore into a coya, how'd I do? Is there anything I could improve on in the future?
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>>47633197
>best-written
Remember that one fantasy cyoa (came in pdf) with the nice skeleton warrior guy who protected kids, and the absentminded old illusionist...? I can't find it but the companions were well-written for sure.

>best visually
I dunno, Broquest?
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>>47633273
Luvyna, and Valerie because they're long running friends that cover my weaknesses and Luvyna is a cute, Crale because a moral compass in not a bad thing for a mage to have and heals are great. Elsoise because healing is still great. Duxix because he's hilarious. And I can steal his mana.
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>>47633373
This one?
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>>47633442
Yes! Thank you!
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>>47633197
Visually? Monster Hunter looks nice. Kingdom Crusher looks great too but the writing is the best.

>>47633236
>>47633228
>same tastes
Can't say I blame you.
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>>47633236
Eh. Can be good, can be bad. When you've made your CYOA I'll tell you how you did.
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>>47633373
I love that dog....and shwig.
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>>47633316
Intersex Turboslut. It really deserves an expansion or revamp with more options, fetish fuel, and drawbacks.
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>>47633145
I love this guy's CYOAs. I figure he made this one as well.
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>>47633251
Question for you: how exactly does enhancement work? What does it do? Do we need to know other forms of magic to enchant into the target, or does it have it's own unique effects?
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>>47633251
Could you describe some stuff like Summoning some more? Like what kinds of summons you can have, how long they can be summoned for, how strong/what kinds of abilities do the summons have.
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>>47633373
BroQuest did have one of the most visually pleasing art i have seen in a CYOA yet, but i dont remember why people stopped working on/talking about it.

What happened?
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>>47633624
I never understood what the rules of this CYOA were.
How many can you pick?
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>>47633238
What's the free exclusive course mean?
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>>47633668
I have no idea, i just found this image somewhere, hell, im not even the guy who posted the companions2 list.
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>>47633668
The companions are only part of it. There's a (bad) character creation page, there's a (pretty good) villains page etc.
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>>47633757
this one?
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>>47633800
Yup.
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>>47633068
Alexander the Great. Time to unify humanity, bitches. Or most likely die trying.
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>>47633624
Too many idea guys and not enough programmers for the game Broquest I believe.
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>>47633251
st. flares is probably the weakest school because survival, dungeoneering and monster hunting have a lot of overlap. and the most important part of dungeoneering, spotting and avoiding traps, is split into a seperate skill.

aside from that, the weakest option is probably teamwork. maybe it could be made into more of a leadership skill.

incidentally, necromancy could do with a better picture, the one currently there is a bit stretched.
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>>47633757
This is the highest resolution of the 1st page I could find.
It hurts my fucking eyes so much....
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>>47633238
>>47633251
>>47633273
>>47633293
>>47633328
Allaric
>Lunestier
> Arcane Magic 3, Magic Refinement 3, Illusion 3, PT 1
>Luvyna, Valerie Bluewood, Malyvin, Crale Edwards, Suzette Highking
>Battle Royal (4v4) 4, Security, Research Proposal, Body Guard, Blind Date
Born to the Bluewood's court magei, Alaric had freakishly strong mana reserves. So much so that negatively impacted his health, and that he frequently damaged himself and everything in his surroundings when he attempted to practice his magic. Many of the children thought he was cursed and shunned him because of this, leading him to be very loyal to the few that would stick with him. With a recommendation from the Bluewood's Leige he found his way into Lunestier to control his strength, and quickly lead him to being a powerful arcane and illusion mage, as well as an improvement to his health.

That work for a description M8?
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>>47633197
See pic related as far as best written is concerned. The fact that it caused so much butthurt upon release of the secrets is just proof of how invested people got into the initial concept.
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>>47634344
Mystery girl.
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Rolled 3, 4 = 7 (2d4)

>>47633238
>>47633251
>>47633273
>>47633293

Ej Har
>Classes:
Arcane Magic * 3
Potion Making * 3
Knowledge(Magic Theory/Mag.Eng * 3)
Blood Magic

>Companions:
Nashwa
Bathsheba
Cassiopeia
Dax

Year 1:
Battle Royale, Bodyguard
Year 2:
Escort
Year 3:
Fund Raising, Basilisk Den
Year 4:
Blind Date, Research Proposal
Year 5:
Basilisk Den

Name:
Khalid "Crystal Aurora" Eral, they both mean the same thing in different languages funnily enough.

Originally Eral had planned to take summoning as an elective; however this would have cut into his time to study the Pure element, indulge his penchant for alchemy, and the manifestations of the Pure within reality. He was incredibly distressed by this until he stumbled upon that girl talking to Pure beings. What a shock that was. It was then that he decided he would devote his time to learning how to manipulate the Purity while studying the creatures and the girl. All the ultimate goal: the ability to move between the Pure lands and the Tainted.
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>>47634435
> All the ultimate goal: the ability to move between the Pure lands and the Tainted.

I.e how to become immortal and/or use magic to its fullest potential. The world is just a strange and disgusting filter through which the manifestations of the Pure element are but shadows. Also slavery is wrong, so the Basilisk Den and all those who support it need to go. Learning how Bathsheba, an robotic lifeform, figured out how to create a mark within the pure lands and thus gain sentience + a soul-- potentially the use of Purity as well--also seems like a worthwhile pursuit. Might as well help Cass and Dax since they're there.
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>>47633293
I'd like my character as a companion as well.
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>>47633145
Double dicks (10)
Donk butt
Supersensitive D-cups (15)
Ghost (30)
Turbospeed (50)
Slow time (100)
Fantasy world (afterlife, friendly gods) (130)
Nakedness (100)

I'm a cute ghost girl with two cocks
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>>47633145
Why do you refuse to link the thread properly? Every single general on this entire website can do it, but not this one?
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>>47634600
>cute ghost girl
But you have no vagoo.
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>>47634151
Where's my beat a waifu CYOA?
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>>47634344
>The fact that it caused so much butthurt upon release of the secrets is just proof of how invested people got into the initial concept.
And how poorly written it actually was.
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>>47634745
On your hard drive, after you make it.
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>>47634658
Spite against us being a general I imagine.
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>>47634777
I'd like to beat you.
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>>47633238
>>47633251
>>47633273
>>47633293
>>47633328
St. Flares

Tactics 3 (Gotta be master tactician to be the MC)
Martial Combat 1 (Gotta be not useless and able to ride Silene)
Knowledge 1 (Cooking, eating tasty food is important)
Teamwork 3
Dungeoneering 2 (I'm the guy to go with for Dungeon diving, also lockpicking)
So like an Adventurer

Tarkun Ironstout (Dwarf Tank)
Silene (Centaur Combat Support and Mounted Charges)
Hana (Lamia Illusionist and Backup Combat)
Sorte (Elf Ranged Combat and Survivalist)
Kit (Kitsune Bard Buffer and backup mage)

The Great Hunt, Escort(Free ghost girl)/Basilisk Den, Battle of the Arts, Party Planner


The three teamwork is to pull off the Harem End
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>>47634806
You should save that for your waifu.

She's going to be heart broken when she hears that you have been beating other people when you have her.
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>>47634844
I would never beat my waifu.
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>>47634151
Needs more husbandos to actually be a waifu to
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>>47634151
Kitsune
Jacked
Feminine
Sweet
Mechanic
Weaponmaster
Greatness
General magic
Wells
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>>47635009
that goes both ways
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>>47633238
>>47633251
>>47633273
>>47633293
>>47633328
Anders Korjac, Amateur Knight

>School
Uzuza
>Courses
Martial Combat
Ranged Combat
First Aid
Tactics
Unarmed Combat
Smithing
Knowlege
Teamwork
Physical Training
>Exclusive
Mage Hunter
>Friends
Duxix
Farhat
Crale Edwards
Evergreen
Damion
>Events
The Great Tournament: Battle Royale
The Great Tournament: The Great Hunt
The Grand Summit: Security
The Gathering of Life: Bodyguard

Born poor, Anders has seen the struggles and injustices that the less-fortunate face. Wanting to help end this, and needing to increase his already astounding strength, he joined Uzuza. Hearing the stories of Az, Anders was inspired, but he will never really buy into the whole "anti-magic" way of thinking. The only reason he's studying Mage Hunting is because it is seen as one of the tougher paths to take, and it may well come in handy later. At the end of the day, Anders just wants to help people be happy. Mage or not.

All around, Anders is a big softie. Tough as nails, but empathetic and altruistic.
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>>47633175
Can't say I liked the Lunestier companions, but I'm probably alone in that.
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>>47635138
Meant for >>47633273
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>>47634151
>Race
Kitsune

>Body
I ain't dying yet
Lustful
Jacked

>Special
Weaponmaster (Katanah)

>Hero
Lieri
Niilo
Sikk
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>>47634391
So what's the deal on this one?
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>>47635187
She's a kitsune.
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>>47635187
She has a fluffy tail and all the other girls are thrash.
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>>47635210
>Not picking up the vampire too and ushering in the age of the Flying Fox.
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>>47633251
Most of the classes are fine but have significant overlaps. You have 3 different martial fighting classes [Martial, Ranged, Unarmed] and 3 different martial commanding classes [Tactics, Teamwork, Maneuvers (cause of the battlefield awareness aspects)], and 5-7 magic classes, depending on where you put Ki, potions, Bardic Arts. This wouldn't be a problem, but the system encourages specialization since you can reinvest in a class to make it better. Then there's things like Arcane Magic substituting for any other magic, general knowledge being vague, what physical training can do exactly, and this is without getting into the school specific classes. So all of them work fine on their own, but building a well rounded character isn't encouraged here and specialist builds are kinda dull, since they just pick 2 or 3 skills and go whole hog.

That isn't even getting into the flavor issues of when you pick up these classes. You can't take them all at once, but the events are supposed to take place in certain years so what abilities would you have at what times is relevant. The system would work much better on a whole if it was like a skill tree instead of as straight pool, like the university CYOA from a while back. Make the magic classes branch off of arcane, stuff like that.
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>>47635210
You wouldn't fuck a fox.
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>>47635283
>Fighting with a sword.
>Overlapping with using a bow.
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>>47635283
You sit there and talk up well-rounded, but a skill tree would encouraged over-specialization even harder, because to get access to the good classes you would have to take all the shitty skills you didn't want that come before it. So either you invest all-in or you're not worthwhile. Not to mention that skills earlier in the tree would be, by implication, far worse than later skills. So by that token you'd be making skills meant to be at parity trash that nobody would use.

For example, right now I can make a magic knight. Maybe not the best, but I can do it. But in a skill tree, I wouldn't be able to make a good one at all, because I wouldn't have enough points to be sufficiently proficient in both martial and magical skills. Hell, depending on cost I might not even be ABLE to become the kind of magic knight I want to be, because proper sword skills or water magic or whatever might be near the very end of the tree. That makes much more narrow builds, in the end.

The university one only worked because there were, what, five different magic schools, total? And you still had to struggle to be good at more than one thing. This CYOA has a much wider scope that doesn't make it tenable.
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>>47635294
Fuck you, fox girls are the GREATEST IN THE WORLD!
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>>47635283
One way to help with this could be getting to pick 2 or 3 classes you can tag as having mastered while splitting the rest between having reached advanced level and basic level. This way you get more choices class-wise and maybe more diverse builds.
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>>47635070
I agree, but male and female orgasms are very different where this kind of thing is concerned.
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>>47635525
Are you that guy that thinks women exclusively cum from emotions or something?
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>>47633328
What do you mean by can't pick more then 8 non-unique events? it seems that you can only pick a single option a maximum of five times and you can only pick one of the options in a row every year.
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>>47635535
Why, would he also agree it goes both ways?
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>>47635649
'Cause he'd probably try and argue that women can't orgasm from rape or something stupid like that.
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>>47634151
Loli (17)
A cute (Free)
Intriguing (16)
Feminine (15)
Twin (13)
Lifetime/I ain't dying yet! (7)
Sweet (6)
Power Magic (3)
Lierl (0)
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>>47635662
What? That's crazy.
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>>47633145
Dick (0), Vagina (5), Combo (15), Petite Butt (15), A cup breasts (15), Elf (20), Fly (35), Lightning Bolt (45), Neko (55), Fantasy (65), Afterlife + Friendly Gods + Industrial Revolution (95)
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>>47635643
Just ignore that bit I plan on removing it. As long as you take a least three different individual events and don't take more then 1 event per cross school event your good
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>>47635932
But who are you, kind stranger?
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>>47630781
Lunestier is the best school. Of course it's preferable, all else being equal.

Tactics, martial combat, Maneuvers, Stealth, bardic arts, knowledge, teamwork, illusions.
Diplomacy, dueling

Skipping companions because I'm not into that.
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>>47635311
Yes. There is overlap between these classes

>>47635393
That isn't necessarily true. Skills up a skill tree are not necessarily more powerful than other skills, just more specialized. Picking a skill would represent an additional ability, not a replacement, but by tying them to a lower skill you eliminate potential redundancies.

>>47635441
As of right now, you can do that and leave yourself with 4 and 1 point respectively. If you're talking about a potential revision, I'm not sure what you're getting at.
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>>47635434
Anon pls
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>>47633238
Luneister
Diplomacy 1, Magic Refinement 2, Dueling 1, Arcane Magic 2, Knowledge 1, Bardic Arts 1, Divine Arts 1
Luvyna, Mecherath, Evergreen, Eloise Avery, Farhat
Fund Raising, Blind Date (3, 4 "Sanyo"), Research Proposal
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>>47635958
Sorry bout that I'm on mobile bent over my toilet with what I'm assuming is food poisoning right now and forgot to namefag

>>47636001
Sorry for the late chime in. Personally I really like the idea of skill trees... Just not in this cyoa. I've intentionally written the classes vague so that players can better mold their ideal character. It's weird compromise between balence and player freedom. Hope this justifies my decision well enough

Were their any other questions I missed?
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>>47636001
>>47635441
What I mean is that you pick 10 different classes and, for example, tag 2 of them with mastery, 3 others with advanced and the rest are at basic proficiency. This way you have 10 unique classes while still having areas of focus.
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>>47636001
>Yes. There is overlap between these classes
No, no there's not. Using a bow is nothing like using a sword and both serve different functions.
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>>47636073
You should probably point that at Box, see if he likes it.
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>>47636001
>That isn't necessarily true.
But it is the implication, especially if you do things like try and lump melee and magic styles into single trees.
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>>47636066
Yeah, I wanted to know how enhancement magic worked. Do I need to learn other kinds of magic to enchant my equipment with, or does enhancement magic have its own unique list of spells/enhancements? I need to know if I should budget for additional magic classes or not.
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>>47633293
Kit: "Often blindsiding others with her amazing works of bardic" Bardic what?!
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>>47636066
>What I mean is that you pick 10 different classes and, for example, tag 2 of them with mastery, 3 others with advanced and the rest are at basic proficiency. This way you have 10 unique classes while still having areas of focus.

What do you think about this idea
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>>47635992
Why'd you decide to go basic with everything?
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>>47636145
Because I didn't read
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>>47636145
I can't blame him, variety is the spice of life and all that.
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>>47636119
You'll learn some basic stuff but I would recommend taking one or two levels in a normal magic class

>>47636135
This is actually near identical to the original draft. I ultimately ended up scrapping it because it felt to limiting to player build paths. It also didn't gel well with how the cyoa was worked at the time.

However I still enjoy the idea and wouldn't mind using it for a future cyoa, just not this one

>>47636127
I guess it got cut off in the latest draft. The word following should be 'arts'
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>>47636001
>There is overlap between these classes
There is? I'd get rolling them into one, but it seems like a very different skill set to me.
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>>47636127
Bar_dick
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>>47636066
I really think skill trees would be the way to go in academic "learn to be an adventurer" cyoa's. They naturally segment a player's progress into time intervals, which solves the problem of what abilities you have when you do one of the challenges. If I had half the free time I used to, I'd get on doing it myself. But a non-mathematician accessible skill graph would require graphic design skills that I just don't have. Things were simpler in the old days when everybody made CYOAs in paint and waifus were bad form.

Pic related though its obviously unfinished. I haven't even indicated which of the edges lack inverses.
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>>47633238
>>47633251
>>47633273
>>47633293
>>47633328

School: Lunestier
Classes: Ranged Combat 2, Tactics 3, Teamwork 2, Manuevers 2, Diplomacy
Companions and Classmates: Luyvna, Valerie Bluewood, Farhat, Eloise Avery, Suzette Highking
Events: Battle Royal, Fund Raising, Escort, Basilisk Den, Security, Bodyguard, Blind Date [rolled 3, 3: Ej Har, Inas], Party Planner


Sebastian Fairmonte is heir to one of the great mercantile empires, raised to nobility after famed diplomat and trader "King of Coins" brokered an accord between five warring kingdoms against the 86th Great Threat. Sebastian inherited his ancestor's charm and business sense, though some nobles look down on the "uppity salesman." Privately Sebastian has doubts of his own: Does someone who can't cast magic or swing a sword belong at a "hero school"? Determined to make his mark with his own talents, he's far from useless in battle but is at his best when working with others.

A keen shot with crossbows and throwing knives, Sebastian's forte is tactics and teamwork: He can get the most out of his allies and adjusts strategies on the fly. He's also obscenely rich and is happy to spend his gold in support of friends.


Not sure if the 9 standard courses + 1 exclusive course means you can take the exclusive course multiple times for more skill or if retaking courses is something you can only do with the standard classes.
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>>47636595
>Things were simpler in the old days when everybody made CYOAs in paint and waifus were bad form.

There is nothing stopping people from returning to the old ways.
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>>47636595
out of curiousity, what did you use to make that web diagram? could really use some organizational graphics for my own cyoa creation.
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>>47633328
Ej Har

Martial Combat III

Ki Attunment III

Physical Training III

Blood Magic I

Chandra

Tarkun Ironstout

Bathsheba

Cassiopeia

Inas

Battle Royal all of them X 3

Great Hunt X 2

Security X 1

Body Guard X 1
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>>47636599
You can take multiple exclusive courses, and you can take them up to three times. You can only take up to 9 standard courses, though.
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>>47633238
I think you should be more specific about the "speciality class" bit.

Is it a one and done deal that is auto lvl3? Or is it just a single slot that can only be a school specific class?

Because pending on which, this may heavily alter my choices
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>>47633238
>>47633251
>>47633273
>>47633293
>>47633328
>>47636599

This is a high-quality CYOA: It felt like just enough lore, giving a framework without making it a slog to read. Class-wise I think some courses need either explicit buffs or to be combined with others:
- Traps should probably be folded into Dungeoneering or Stealth (because rogue).
- Manuevers could be part of Physical Training since Manuevers is also physical training to a different end. Consider dropping Manuevers and adding a note to Physical Training that most students focus on one aspect or the other, improving strength and endurance or speed and agility?
- Knowledge seems overly narrow. Maybe make it general academia, giving a broad knowledge base, then have the student choose a field to focus on.
- Teamwork feels underwhelming. Maybe it also improves leadership/the ability to direct others instead of just work with them?

As far as Companions go, I appreciated the variety and took the ones I did to round out the party, but also because Luvyna and Valerie are childhood friends. Farhat seems like a bro and Eloise is there because healing is good plus she can be backup in a pinch. Also I like the idea of Sebastian acquiring a cute "little sister" who secretly wants to dissect anyone who gets close to him. Picked Suzette because networking/potential waifu/combat mage. Plus Inas writes Sebastian into her chuuni backstory after they're picked for the ball.

I liked the Events in general as springboards for worldbuilding/writefagging: For example, Sebastian getting an invite to the Basilisk's Den due to his family's obscene wealth and potentially semi-legal activities. Thanks for going the extra mile with those!
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>>47636595
Looks really interesting anon if you want I can try to apply my graphic design skills to this
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>>47636760
My own two cents on potential changes

Teamwork and Tactics should really be rolled up into one class

Also, we have too many tomboy Knight girls, and not enough dudes.
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>>47636756
I think I edited a wrong version. The class system doesn't work like that anymore. Current system is that you get 10 classe slots that you can fill out with any class from the first page or your school, thus you can take lv1-3 with any of those skills

Sorry if it caused any unnecessary confusion
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>>47636825
Ah, okay. Thanks man, now I have exactly what I need.
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>>47636595
>Forced to take a bunch of skills I don't want to get to what I do.
How about fuck you?
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>>47636748
>>47636599
Ah, got it. Slightly updated build, assuming I'm getting it right this time.

School: Lunestier
Classes: Ranged Combat 2, Tactics 3, Teamwork 2, Manuevers 1, Diplomacy 2
Companions and Classmates: Luyvna, Valerie Bluewood, Farhat, Eloise Avery, Suzette Highking
Events: Battle Royal, Fund Raising, Escort, Basilisk Den, Security, Bodyguard, Blind Date [rolled 3, 3: Ej Har, Inas], Party Planner

>>47636818
I was thinking that too, but not sure if Box wanted them to be two different courses intentionally ex. someone wants to make a tactically superior guy who also hates people and is a terrible team player. Otherwise it seems like they'd be aspects of the same course.
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>>47636732
Geogabra. It's a geometry tool mostly, but to get this kind of graph just use segments and points.

>>47636767
That seems like a good idea. I always found laying out and making the image to be the longest and hardest part of any of my CYOAs. It could be a while before I can get something workable ready, I have classes to teach, proofs to write, and lots of whisky that will go bad if I don't get at it.

My email address is on the attached image.
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>>47636818
Sorry about that, I got lazy and finding anime dude art is hard.

While I was thinking about combining some classes I really don't think these are good candidates. In my mind tactics and team work are very different things. One is based around planning and the other is about how well you work with others.

Think about it like this, rts games can be some of the most demanding games around yet they are almost always single player. Common sense would be to lesson the burden on the player by allowing them to team up with a friend. Yet they don't. This is because being of strong tactical sense and having the ability to work together are not mutually exclusive. Ever hear the term to many cooks?

Idk maybe I'm just rambling
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>>47636927
>My email address is on the attached image.
Is it supposed to be okay that you're taking this discussion out of the thread so you can force what you want on Box without letting us have any input on what happens to the CYOA?
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A lot of lune students seem to be taking Suzette, can I ask why?
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>>47636595
>Occult
>Required to learn how to suck off demons to learn magic, medicine, academics, potions, and everything that branches from it.
>Have to learn how to suck off a god to learn to smith weapons.
How the hell did this make sense to you?
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>>47636818
>Hating on tomboy knights
Scum.
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>>47636927
Thanks guy I understand we all have stuff in our lives, God knows the shit I have too do on a daily basis

>>47636940
We aren't really taking the discussion out of the thread more like setting the ground work for possible future collabs
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>>47637005
>We aren't really taking the discussion out of the thread
>setting the ground work for possible future collabs
Meaning that discussion won't happen in the thread. And he wants to force his skill tree on your current CYOA.
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>>47636595
I'm not a huge fan of skill trees. They tend to be quite limiting, in that they force you to take things you might not want or need, so you're wasting resources when you could be using them to make the character you actually want. That can make builds that would otherwise be very interesting complete non-options. I find it's also very difficult to get them to make any sort of sense.
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>>47636972
I don't know what you think occult means but I don't think it means the same to you as he thinks it means.

Also, it's not very clear but I don't think divine is attached to smithing. That line is attaching divine to druidism, it just goes through the smithing dot.
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>>47636967
Princess pussy. I can't resist the chance of dirtying the royal bloodline with my peasant seed.
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>>47636967
Like I said here >>47636599 it's partly because Sebastian's from a merchant house and befriending royalty seems like a good business move, plus she's a magical prodigy and I needed a combat caster. Also Sebastian is familiar with multiple rungs on the social ladder so he can show Suzette around and she can ooh and ahh over commoner living.

Maybe Sebastian invents ghetto tourism for this world, charging sheltered nobles to shuttle them around and see how the lesser folk live.
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>>47637026
Occult means demonology, working with demons.
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>>47637016
Maybe there was a miscommunication then.

Let me state this then here and now. I will not but skill trees into Hero Acedemy. While I think they have their places in cyoas I don't think they will work in this particular cyoa

However I like the train of thought he has and would love to pick his brain at a latter date with cluttering up future threads
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>>47637066
Believe me, productive discussion won't clutter this place.
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>>47633238
Lunestier

Illusion 3
Knowledge 2
Potion Mixing 3
Arcane
Magic Refinement

I can just Illusion up some friends, but i'll take:
Malyvin
Farhat
Yung Tashi
Dax
Suzette

Battle Royale
Battle of the Arts X2
Fund Raising (Just Illusion the funds bro)
Blind Date (Helena) We gonna need Illusions on this one

All in all I'll be spending most of time living my life as a lie with Illusion, and fucking around with the bros.
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>>47637048
I would argue that demonology is a subset of Occult
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>>47637048
It's a lot vaguer and broader than that. I'm guessing it's being used here as a stand-in for "basic magical knowledge".
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>>47633293
shrazad

st. flares
martial combat
tactics x2
unarmed combat
teamwork
elemental magic x3
maneuvers x2

valerie bluewood - i like the tomboy childhood friend angle
sera - healers are a must for any good party
kengen - pretty strong and he seems like he could be a real bro
bathsheba - having a robot with superhuman strength on the team would be a great addition, and it'd be great to watch her grow as an individual
kaerulaus - a monster slayer is good to have around when dealing with oversized enemies

shrazad is the odd one out in his family. his parents and siblings are all skilled warriors and bodyguards in service to high ranking nobles, but shrazad never had the physical strength to excel in melee combat. instead, he focused his efforts towards spellcasting and learning to outsmart enemies. he loves the thrill of battle and taking on strong opponents.

in combat, shrazad uses his mobility to stay out of the enemies reach while laying down magical traps to wear them down before finishing it with a devastating spell. his elemental magic and tactical knowledge lets him control the flow of battle.

feel free to use my character as a companion
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>>47637026
Also if druidism is working with nature, it doesn't mean you have to suck off deities to have that connection to nature.

>>47637089
You can argue it, but that's not how it's used.

>>47637098
It's being used wrong in that case.

For what he might INTEND, a basic magic class is useless filler. It punishes magic-based builds by forcing them to take a class that doesn't do anything and wasting points, it's basically a tax. It's not a good thing to include just to force a skill tree.
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>>47636940
Would you prefer that I crowd the thread with discussion of a hypothetical that Box has already said isn't appropriate for what we have.

>>47636972
It does not. See >>47637026.

>>47637005
>>47637066
Sounds good. Just shoot me an email when you want. I may not respond immediately, but I will eventually.
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>>47637087
>I can just Illusion up some friends
Dude, that's just sad.
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>>47637127
See >>47637122
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>>47637127
>Would you prefer that I crowd the thread with discussion of a hypothetical
In contrast to fetish posting that normally crowds it?
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>>47633238
>Uzuza

>Basic Physical Training
>Basic Maneuvers
>Advanced Unarmed Combat
>Master Ki Attunement
>Master Berserking

>Yung Tashi
>Malyvin
>Sera
>Kara'Tee
>Damion

>Year 1: Blind Date
>Year 2: Security
>Year 3: Bodyguard
>Year 4: The Great Hunt
>Year 5: Battle Royal

I always like the idea of going into a "super-mode" where I'm briefly unstoppable, most of my build is based around that.

My party is relatively balanced (considering I'm Uzuza and can't pick half the characters), with a good mix of personalities. Sera is "team mom" and covers healing, Malyvin is our skill monkey and strategist, and then we have the four fighters: Kara'Tee deals with magical opponents, Damion is our ranged attacker, Yung Tashi is a reliable frontliner, while I act as a nuclear bomb.

I don't know if I got the events right, I just decided to pick one per year because it's easier that way. I'm building up from more trivial stuff to a grand finale facing off with the other schools.

Rolling for blind date.
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>>47637134
My Illusions are so powerful that it's slightly less pathetic
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>>47637134
Isn't that essentially just the M-Vest series in a nutshell?

>>47637127
Yeah man I'll probably throw you something tomorrow
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>>47637122
>The occult (from the Latin word occultus "clandestine, hidden, secret") is "knowledge of the hidden".[1] In common English usage, occult refers to "knowledge of the paranormal", as opposed to "knowledge of the measurable",[2] usually referred to as science. The term is sometimes taken to mean knowledge that "is meant only for certain people" or that "must be kept hidden", but for most practicing occultists it is simply the study of a deeper spiritual reality that extends beyond pure reason and the physical sciences.[3] The terms esoteric and arcane can also be used to describe the occult,[4][5] in addition to their meanings unrelated to the supernatural.
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>>47637192
And what is the paranormal 'in common English usage'? Demons, hell. Monsters. Evil.
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>>47637117
forgot my events:
battle royal (every year)
escort
security
bodyguard
blind date (sanyo. might be hard to get along with her)
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>>47637211
That's a stretch. You're defining things too narrowly again. Paranormal usually just means inexplicable, in my experience.
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>>47637173
Yuppppp you've gone full M-Vest

>>47637171
You did events fine, you can take more though if you wish
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>>47637244
>That's a stretch.
You must not talk to anyone who actually believes in this shit.

Beyond that, you are ignoring the main point, aren't you? The fact that an 'occultism' class is useless filler and a point tax?
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>>47637257
I actually agree that occultism is just filler. This is the first time I've said anything to you.

I'll take your word for it on the definition thing.
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>>47637280
By "this is the first time" I meant that >>47637244 was the first time. Woops.
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>>47637002
I don't hate them Crale is best girl . It's just that too many and it dilutes the coolness and also makes it super hard to pick one.

It's a matter of Quality vs Quantity
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>>47637211
Also ghosts, aliens, chemtrails, tulpas, angels, miracles, and our reptilian overlords. Unless you believe all of those are demons (which to be fair, I have seen that before) then demons are simply a sub-category of occult things.

Also, to answer this objection >>47637257. Occult would be a point tax if you had to pay points for it. The idea behind it and the other two purple nodes was that you get two (and only two) of them for free at the start. Then you build the rest of your power set. But as I was going through Box's list and retrofitting it, that would leave social under powered, so the class list would need some rebalancing. That's why its something I wanted to take out of the thread, since there are immediate problems with the idea that I wanted to address before presenting it again.
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>>47637122
>For what he might INTEND, a basic magic class is useless filler. It punishes magic-based builds by forcing them to take a class that doesn't do anything and wasting points, it's basically a tax. It's not a good thing to include just to force a skill tree.

I wouldn't say it's useless, I've seen at least one person (and I think more) voluntarily take "magic theory" as their knowledge class.
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>>47637334
>That's why its something I wanted to take out of the thread
Where people couldn't question the idea itself?
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>>47637334
And what about druidism requiring you to spend time on your knees for the gods? You can't be foreign to the idea of druids being connected to nature itself and not some asshole holy god.

>>47637365
Even the person who came up with it thinks it's useless.
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>>47637381
That is not necessarily what that edge means. Edges could indicate both are pre-requisites, only one is, or that druidism unlocks a class option. As I said when I initially posted the diagram, I had not even labeled which edges lack inverses, let alone what their full relationship was.

And it is not useless, simply not useful enough to stand as its own skill. There is a distinction.
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>>47637381
>Even the person who came up with it thinks it's useless.

So what? I disagree with them. I could see having general magic knowledge being useful even if you were playing a fighter with no magic, it would be even more useful for a mage. Stuff like the basic theory behind magic and how it works, identifying magical items and spells, recognising different types of magical entities and their properties, knowing the history of mages and their organizations. If magic is a big deal in the world then the more you know about it, the better you're equipped to deal with it.

For the record, you sound like you have a bit of a complex about gods.
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>>47637491
None of those are practical skills. It's raw academics. As I said, it would manifest as nothing more than a point tax to people trying to play magic builds.

>For the record...
I have a complex about having to be slave to another entity for power, whether god or demon.
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>>47637511
>I have a complex about having to be slave to another entity for power, whether god or demon.

Well, I hope you're self-employed.
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>>47637558
>Wage-slave meme
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Question for when the Worm CYOA guy checks the thread, does Final Form come with Godslayer as it is implied in the text or does it need to be purchased independently?
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>>47637511
>be slave to another entity for power, whether god or demon.
It's not enslavement. Its entirely optional , its fully your choice, and its essentially employment by said power, its just that instead of money you get payed in cosmic power, and chances are you willingly employed yourself to a being who's interests and standard almost perfectly align with your own. Its essentially having a dream job
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>>47637640
>It's not enslavement.
It is if you want to be a Druid. It makes sense to HAVE to be a slave to a god to use divine magic, or to HAVE to be a slave to demons to use demonic magic, but Druidism is flexible enough to simply run off of a connection to nature itself, and not a being demanding you service it.

>chances are you willingly employed yourself to a being who's interests and standard almost perfectly align with your own.
This would have to be a world with thousands to millions of small gods to perfectly encapsulate every possible motivation to serve their spheres.
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>>47633238
Name: Maximilian
Gender: Male
School: Odesium

Classes:
-Unarmed Combat 3
-Physical Training 3
Exclusive Classes:
-Mage Armor 3

Companions:
-Bathsheba [AI Golem]
-Znanje [Odesium AI Researcher]
-Jiel [Odesium Airship Researcher]
-Tash [Odesium Explosives Expert]
-Liene [Odesium Spellblade]

Events:
-Battle Royal x5 [1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, 5v5]
-Escort
-Research Proposal

Why remotely control Mage Armor, leaving you exposed, when you can wear it like Power Armor? Enhance my already potent body to superhuman levels with Mage Armor.

As for companions, Bathsheba and Znanje have obvious synergy. The Odesium companions are my favorite out of the school-exclusive companions so I decided to take them all. We all combine fairly well too; our biggest weakness is the lack of a dedicated magic user or healer, but we make up for it in most every way other.

As for events, I plan on asking the Escort girl if she wants to possess my Mage Armor for the foreseeable future. She gets to stay near me and see the world, I get an ally in my armor. Znanje can study the possession and Bathsheba to hopefully get a better idea of creating life. Jiel, Znanje, or I could are all talented enough to present for the Research Proposal.
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>>47637690
>This would have to be a world with thousands to millions of small gods to perfectly encapsulate every possible motivation to serve their spheres
>What is Shinto and other various Folk religions based on numerous different nature spirits and little Gods.
Coincidentally, this would make for perfect Druids, especially since druidism has its roots in such folk beliefs and religions.

Stop thinking all religions are small Pantheons like Greek or Egyptian
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>>47636296

>This is actually near identical to the original draft. I ultimately ended up scrapping it because it felt to limiting to player build paths. It also didn't gel well with how the cyoa was worked at the time.

I think the way you pick classes now is fine but how is getting to choose 10 unique classes more limiting to player build paths than having to double and triple dip to reach advance/mastery?
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>>47637768
Druidism has its roots in Celtic religions, which believed in a pantheon more alike to the Germanics than they did shamanistic spiritualism like in Shinto. So no. You are wrong.

On top of that, there's even less justification for having to suck up to a weak lesser god than a greater one.
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>>47637867
God you are such a whiny bitch. If you are some faggot atheist who doesn't want to worship a god for power, then don't worship and serve the god. Easy right.
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>>47637900
Under this system you would not then be able to be a Druid.
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>>47637939
Then don't be a druid. Because alot of fantasy and other beliefs see nature as a deity of some kind mother earth, gaia, whatever. Usually sleeping and is interested in balance and nature. If you aren't willing to serve that then don't be a druid, be something that doesen't require a moral code or standard of conduct like warrior, or rogue. But not a paladin, cleric, or druid, or someone who gets power from some other being.
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>>47637990
But I want nature powers.

>A lot of fantasy...
And a lot don't.
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>>47633238
>>47633251
>>47633273
>>47633293
>>47633328
1/2

Name: Solomon Pinchote-Grassheart
>School
St. Flares

>Classes
Druidism 3
Stealth 1
Survival 1
Divine Arts 1
Monster Hunting 1
Ranged Combat 1
Knowledge 2 (Philosophy, Wildlife/Natural/Ecological Sciences, and a little bit of everything else)

>Classmates
Sorte (fellow Survivalist, hunter, sniper, and spotter)
Hana (Illusionist and Pankration)
Kengen (awesome elemental Ki warrior)
Crale Edwards (Paladin, warrior, support, and someone I know I can trust)
Dax (water magic, Divination, utility, aid in group planning)

>Events
Year 1: Great Hunt
Year 2: Great Hunt, Party Planner
Year 3: Party Planner, Research Proposal
Year 4: Great Hunt
Year 5: Party Planner, Research Proposal

Next page, the backstory.
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>>47638002
Stop being a whinny bitch. God there should be a CYOA set up specifically to fuck up entitled people. Listen Druids must love and respect nature that means no polluting, no industrializing all sorts of shit. If you can't give up that shit, you don't get nature powers.
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>>47638063
There are actually forms of druid that consider industrialization and human civilization not to be purely destructive. Urban Druids from DnD are an example.
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>>47638087
So go play that then. Not even the other guy, this gripe is just annoying as fuck.
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>>47633238
Railing against the perception of alchemy as little more than a supportive art, Elysia Redwood's potions would hardly be recognized as such by any 'traditional' alchemist. Needless to say, this did not go over well with her family, a long-standing line of such alchemists, said to trace back to the 20th great threat. In hopes her adventurous spirit would be curbed, or at least satisfied, they sent her to the Academy.


In addition to the more common curative and supportive potions, Elysia can imbue potent elixirs with various offensive magics, making them equal to, or even surpassing, the spells they mimic.


School: Odesium
Classes: First Aid I, Potion Mixing III, Knowledge (Herbalism) III, Arcane Magic I, Elemental Magic I, Enhancement I


Best Friends: Bathsheba, Znanje, Malyvin, Luvyna, Valerie

Events:
Blind Date (Inas - "At least she made it an interesting evening, talking about whatever delusion she's living in.")
Basilisk Den > Fund Raising ("Nothing says motivation like crippling debt to an illegal gambling den!")
Blind Date (Damia - "A bit boring, but those gardening tips she gave me worked out great!")
Research Proposal ("I'll show my family that alchemy can be so much more!")
Blind Date (Sorte - "Oh come on, why do they keep pairing me up with girls?!")
Battle Royal ("They didn't call me the ping-pong champ back home for no reason, you know!"
Blind Date (Scal - "Jackpot!" /swoon)
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>>47638023
>The Student
Solomon Pinchote-Grassheart was born the son of an Lunestier trained Knight Officer from Westhold, and the Shamaness of a nomadic tribe, who were broken and forced into a sedentary lifestyle on the fringes between Westhold and a great and secluded mountainous kingdom from during the Great Disaster known as the “Winter of Ravenous Wounds”. The Shamaness left her kinsmen to learn the military and cultural ways of the Westholdmen, and quickly rose in the ranks as a skilled a dependable field medic and Affairs Officer. Eventually this led into a rivalry with the Knight Sir Pinchote, a great commander, engineer, and leader, that eventually blossomed into respect, and later love

Solomon grew up in a household of discipline, manners, piety, and developed a strong respect for nature, education, and an near insatiable desire to see the world. As he got older he started to wander why it is that Druidic/Shamanistic traditions and similar rustic practices didn't garner the same level of scientific research that other fields did, and also wandered if the monsters of the world might have greater purpose and meaning to their existence than people ascribe to them. With these queries bubbling inside him, he decided to take the plunge and apply to St. Flares to gain skills needed to answer these questions and maybe help both the sapient races and the natural world around them.

Solomon is a focused individual who is always first to volunteer and learn new things from any topic, and is guided by an unwavering sense of morality and obligation. While he can be a bit stern and overly focused, he always tries to behave in an honest, just, and helpful way, even if he does often act very old fashioned and dogmatic about his standards. Still, while he might not make friends easily, he is incredibly loyal to the ones he finds, and will do everything he can to see to his friends first before himself.

Pic related. Minor inspiration for the character
Thoughts?
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>>47638169
We were discussing a hypothetical change to a CYOA where you are not currently required to serve a god to be a druid.
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>>47633238
Hey Box Wine, I have a question for you. In >>47633273 under Eloise it states taht she uses First Aid AND healing magics, but does not herself seem religious. Will we ever be able to get a healing magics course, and what would its upward limits be if we do?
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>>47637365
>>47637381
>>47637491
Engineers study physics before they do anything related to designing or building. The same should logically apply to Mages, who mess around with the fundamental forces of reality. I was one of those who took M.Theory, I took it three times.
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>>47638274
Then you wasted points you could use to be a more powerful hero.
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>>47638294
My purpose is studying and messing around with the fundamental forces of reality, without the 'filters' of 'elements' or the safeguards inherent to summoned beings. I'm infinitely more powerful alive than dead.
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>>47638323
You are fundamentally overfocused and doomed in a situation outside of your expectations.
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>>47638294
>Worrying about minmaxing
>On a CYOA

Besides, if he does become a hero, chances are his knowledge of M.Theory will let him discover new magical theorems for other people to eventually learn and use. Not all adventurers are murderhobos, and this isn't 3.pf where you ha e to optimize to be even vaguely useful
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>>47638337
>overfocused
To the subject of raw mana manipulation, how it exists, how it interacts with the world and where it comes from. Not to mention the intricacies of how I interact with it. All things considered if anyone outside of Luniester is going to reverse-engineer and advance Mana-refinement, it's me or anyone studying this shit seriously. I.e Me.
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>>47638376
And then the goblins stab you in the back. Great work, Mr. Scientist.
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>>47638376
No man you don't get it, knowing how math works makes you a WORSE engineer.

Some fucking how.
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>>47638398
It means he can't take many other skills EXCEPT math.
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>>47638392
I know arcane magic. Based on what the maker said, this shit is pretty versatile. Not to mention the fact that my studying this subject gives me greater control over...everything...than the average spellcasting idiot.
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>>47638426
And what do you do when spellcasting raw arcane isn't suitable for your situation?
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I should make another CYOA sometime
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>>47638418
>>47638443

I took Arcane magic, three times. This is separate from my studying how mana works. Not to mention potion making, which I took three times as well. Then blood magic too. I'm pretty fucking strong.
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>>47638418
Okay? That's true of literally everything. That's the sort of the point of having a limited number of choices. Some people focus on different things for different purposes.
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>>47638449
You should, yours were fun
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>>47638392
The murderhobo is strong with this one. Behold as the cheeto dust wafts off of his neckbeard like a thick miasma
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>>47638443
What do you do when anything at all isn't suitable for your situation? Come the fuck on man, use your brain.

Even in the context of the CYOA didn't it say that something like only a few of the 99 Big Problems have been soloed? Specialization is just one of the many reasons why having a team is a good idea.
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>>47638460
And he ends up overspecialized.

>>47638456
In a limited set of circumstances.

>>47638483
>Anon is training to be a hero
>Whines about people telling him he should be capable of heroics.
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>>47638483
The worst part is that with my superior knowledge of my skills and limitations, I could murderhobo better than him. Easily.
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>>47638498
Frankly I don't care about your obsession with academic theory and not practicality. I don't like the idea of you forcing your specialization on everyone who wants to take magic.
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>>47638492
Box Wine explicitly said that Arcane magic is just what powers all the other kinds. That the other classes are just filters put over the useful stuff, they're training wheels or kneepads. I could probably cast fireball/spellball if need be.
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>>47638518
>I don't like the idea of you forcing your specialization on everyone who wants to take magic.
Hello Mr. Kettle, I'm Mr. Pot.
You're a nigger.
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>>47638518
You could take the other paths too. You could do so without the theory, you'd just be objectively worse at everything you attempt when compared to anyone that does things...logically. No one's forcing you to do anything at all.
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>>47638571
>Hello Mr. Kettle, I'm Mr. Pot.
>You're a nigger.
Holy mother of kek
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>>47638571
Where was I trying to force anything on you, anon?

>>47638578
Wrong. Go up and read the skill tree we were arguing over. It'd force everyone to take your magical theory classes.
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>>47638518
Have fun when the fireball you want to cast blows up in your face
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>>47638656
The elementalist magi will probably teach him that much. The issue here, though, is that he wouldn't know how to combine fireballs + illusions into 'feelings of heat.' Anything more complex than 'EXPLOSION' would be impossible without knowing how the powers work, fundamentally.

>>47638651
I was dragged into this argument when that other anon pointed out that I took the classes. I was thinking that we were discussing Box Wine's CYOA as it is now.
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>>47638719
>Implying just knowing Explosions is a problem
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>>47638731
What if there was a way to control light through the use of fire magic? Or to create entire false worlds with illusion magic? Remember: he doesn't know how his powers work, their strengths beyond the superficial level or their full limitations. Of course if you had multiple elements at your fingertips you could generally influence the strength of explosions, but what if you wanted to do anything else with your powers?
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>>47638786
Explosions.
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>>47638531
you might have misunderstood me

Arcane Magic has the most raw destructive power yet as a trade off you lose the ability to do stuff like put elements into your spells.

>>47638193

>>47638193
Oh neat my first female build

>>47638215
I think its cool as shit bro

>>47638255
Nah Healing Magics are exclusive to the gods at the moment however that might change in the future
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>>47633238
Name - Sylphia Blacklock
Academy - Lunestier

Classes - Ki Attunement 3, Potion Mixing 2, Arcane Magic 3, Magic Refinement 2

>>47633273
Companions - Luvyna, Valerie, Hana, Nashwa, Suzette Highking

>>47633328
Events
The Great Hunt (every year)
Fundraising (all but my last year)
Basilisk Den (last year)
Security (every year)
Bodyguard (every year)

I'll train to use Ki and Magic together as one art. Potions will allow me to brew up some helpful items for boosting abilities. Magic Refinement should help control arcane magics. Friends? I chose the ones that seemed to be best for my personality. Events? I like making money and guarding things.
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>>47633238
Male

School: The Ej Har Institute


Courses: Summoning x3 (Master), Necromancy x3 (Master), Ki x3 (Master), and Illusion x1 (Basic)


Companions and Classmates: Scal, Farhat, Nashwa, Kengen, and Malyvin


Events: Battle Royal x5, The Great Hunt x1, Basilisk Den x1, and Bodyguard x1
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>>47638685
I am 200% okay with this.
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>>47638864
>Arcane Magic has the most raw destructive power yet as a trade off you lose the ability to do stuff like put elements into your spells

It's the raw power that fuels everything else. Why would I be able to do one and not the other? They only difference between arcane mages and elementalsists are that one is going in no-holds barred and the other is using a helmet and training wheels.
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>>47638938
>Trying to tell a CYOA maker how magic in his setting works.
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>>47638193
>Battle Royal
>"ping-pong champ"

Whoops. Guess she accidentally signed up for a 1v1 bloodbath instead of a nice simple game of table tennis.
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>>47638864
>Arcane Magic has the most raw destructive power yet as a trade off you lose the ability to do stuff like put elements into your spells.
Alright, fine. So I can't cast 'fireball,' but I could probably cast the same thing but using raw mana anyway, right? Give me a quick run-down: is Arcane purely for brute force attacks or is it actually useful? What can one do with the magic that they can't with other types?
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>>47633442

>Race
Human

>Class
Skirmisher-Tank type

>Tokens

use the 3 for special items

-Paladin Armor, the hope buff will be necessary for my quest

-Elven Raider mace, For early detecting of enemies and destruction of the undead

-Jade knife, never know when i'll have to kill something immune to physical damage, like a ghost or banshee

>Companions

-Jorlan, good fighter, teacher, and has connections

-Vermach, skelebro, skilled, no real drawbacks, will be able to learn from Jorlan and can teach me in the unfortunate incident Jorlan dies.

-Horuk, Great follower, no kittens where we're going.

-Gannibal, Great Leader, will be able to use Horuk most efficiently.

>HomeLand

Middle Countries, good all around starting place, nearby to the wastes, can supply up before entering.

>Quest

Arriane De Muerta

-inexperienced

-easily manipulated

-Weak starting Army

from our central starting location we can immediately head out to the wastes after equipping ourselves. With Gannibals superior leadership, he can out think, maneuver, and plan. we'll always be one step ahead of her.

Jorlan's skill as a fighter and teacher will give Vermach and I an edge from the teachings we shall receive, also he is a very charming and may be able to manipulate her.

Vermach is an all around solid fighter, being undead he may not be directly targeted, or could slip within the ranks unnoticed.

Horuk will do whatever Gannibal tells him. hopefully Arriane doesn't have an cat affinity.

With my Skills as a Tank, Paladin amror with Aurora of Hope, Undead slaying Mace, and Jade knife with the ability to harm anything, i could handle any undead beast thrown at us.

If we attack quickly and ruthlessly while her army is just made up of rotting bones and shambling flesh with minimal to no banshees, ghosts, Shadows, Vampires, Spectres, Wraiths, undead Wyverns or Heavens forbid, a Lich King. It shall be a quick campaign.

if not,

well, we got plenty of time.
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>>47639134
COME WITH ME
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>too busy building for CYOAs to work on your own CYOA
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>>47633238
Ej Har Institute

2x Divine Arts
2x Unholy Arts
2x Summoning Magic
2x Knowledge
1x Martial Combat
1x Maneuvers

Scal
Valerie Bluewood
Farhat
Silene
Nashwa

2x Great Tournament (2x Battle Royal, 2x Great Hunt)
2x Harvest Festival
2x Grand Summit (1x Research Proposal, 2x Battle of the Arts)
2x Gathering of Life

I follow a radical sect which sees one dark god and one good god as twins/parallels. That means I get both their powers and can control both their servants, so long as I can keep a balance. I'd also love to study philosophy and literature while I'm there. I may just end up working as an academic/priestly type... or I might become a mercenary.
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>>47638864
>>47636296
>This is actually near identical to the original draft. I ultimately ended up scrapping it because it felt to limiting to player build paths. It also didn't gel well with how the cyoa was worked at the time.

I think the way you pick classes now is fine but how is getting to choose 10 unique classes more limiting to player build paths than having to double and triple dip to reach advance/mastery?

Also, will you be adding weapons, armor and (magical)items to this? How about some post-graduation quests and adventures?
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>>47638938
>>47639121
So while yes Arcane Magic is your magic in your purest form it doesn't necessarily teach you how to change your normal magic to fire magic.

There are other uses though outside of raw destructive force. Examples might include things like flight, barriers, mana drain, slight gravity powers, etc.

Also I'm sighing off for tonight its like 1:30 over here time for sleep
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>>47639381
Wouldn't most of that be provided by the school while you're there?
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>>47639381
post grad will be an entirely new cyoa
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>>47639387
So as I thought, it's more generally useful than the elements. I'm sated. Why are the gravity powers capped at 'slight'? Could one become more powerful at controlling these things with use?
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>>47639400
Interesting
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>>47633238
>86 total votes
I have a hard time believing there aren't people cheating with the votes.
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>>47639425
I personally voted 79 times.
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>>47639326
Forgot

Name: Uotaa
Gender: Male
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>>47639425
SHOKKU

The idea that people might lurk this thread without posting?! INCONCEIVABLE!
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>>47639544
>inb4 princess bride
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>>47636825
Wait, I'm not that anon but I'm still confused. So I can take 9 classes, and then decide how many times I take each class?
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>>47633273
Isn't it unfair that Mage Armor has physical feedback while there is no such thing with Summoning or Necromancy?

I want golems!
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>>47639755
Nah, think of it as every class having 3 lvls and you can get a total of 9 lvls +1 from your schools special list, but if you want you can invest more in your schools special classes
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>>47639544
yes, anon, that is exactly what I'm saying (that, and I can't conceive there being this many people ITT, who votes since the strawpoll was put up last night). I don't see why you'd lurk without posting builds.
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>>47639853
So a bit of something like what >>47638023 has then?
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>>47639916
There are 60 unique Ips that have posted, at the least. You disbelieve 20 odd lurkers on top?
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>>47639916
I cannot help such willful lack of understanding.

I SLEEP NOW
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>>47639935
look, anon, it is way too early for logic.
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>>47639916
There are literally 60 IPs in this one thread alone; 63 votes since last night is completely plausible.
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>>47639922
Exactly. That's the right way to do classes.
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>>47630705
Thanks, I'm going to read the full thing later. We haven't had to write reports like that, most bigger reports are group work (again, I'm only in thesecond year, and I do expect shit to get real the next years)
I love the story of how they discovered Viagra's side effect (and Antabuse).
I know this is pointless, but why didn't you write the acronym for GPCR?

Heading off for a microbiology exam. If only I had slept last night.
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Any idea how to find pics of tiny people, the ones who fit inside your hand, that are not macrophiliac?
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>>47639916
>I don't see why you'd lurk without posting builds.
I'm only here for the OC, personally.
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>>47640036
Try minigirl on gelbooru or danbooru.

Something like minigirl rating:Safe

You could also try it with the tag fairy and other things you know to be small.
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1/2
Pic related, a sketch someone made a while ago and what I'm using for my character ref.

>School
Lunestier

>Classes
2 - Tactics
1 - Unarmed Combat
1 - Ki Attunement
2 - Elemental Magic (If possible, I'll be a fire specialist)
1 - Maneuvers
2 - Duelling
1 - Magic Refinement

I wanted to build a character that would be versatile, but would be specially great at duels, so Duelling was a must. Maneuvers and Tactics would ensure that I could isolate my enemies and strike them down one by one when not outnumbered by a lot.
Unarmed combat seemed a cool way to duel. I'll probably be wearing gloves to enhance my firepower (literally). Ki Attunement was chosen because it seems very good for characters that mix magic and physical skill.
The two levels in Elemental Magic are there to make me have enough raw power to face multiple enemies and monsters, which are not my specialty. The same goes for Magic Refinement and Tactics.

>Friends
Kengen
Yung Tashi
Naswa
Mecherath Northbreed
Suzette Highking

>Other characters I'm interested in being friends with
Malyvin
Luvyna
Valerie Bluewood
Sera
Dax
Farhat
Chandara
Silene
Trap-Catcher
Crale Edwards
Hana
Tennie Northbreed

>From other schools
Kaerulaus
Jiel
Tash
Scal
Inas Sanyo
Kara'Tee
Izuki
Helena

Kengen, Yung Tashi and Eydall were chosen because of their potential in duels. Sparring with them would be an excellent idea, as they're all great in that.
Suzette and Naswa seemed like good mages to have around. Naswa being an unique summonner and Suzette being a good battlemage, similar to my character, they would be great companions to have in a situation where my character can't isolate enemies to force duels or when I'm forced to battle monsters instead of humanoids.
Mecherath seems like the person you don't wanna fuck with, she's also a cutie and quite mysterious, I wanna know more about her.
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>>47634344
>>47634366
This version of the secrets has been acknowledged by Harem Anon to be too triggering for the game's good. He created a new one in which he replaced most of the bad stuff with funny/weird and what do you know, people stopped bitching about them.
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>>47640165

2/2

>Events
>The Great Tournament
I'll participate in The Great Hunt, teaming up with Naswa and Suzette Highking
It doesn't seem like a good idea to try to take other masters of dueling in my first year. I'd rather try it later. Naswa and Suzette seem like great allies during this event.
For the subsequent years, I'll just try my best at the Battle Royal.

>The Harvest Festival
During the first year, I'll probably just enjoy the Fund Raising festival with my bros. Maybe if I'm lucky I'll be able to take Mecherath to a date?
In the third, I might get invited to the pit fights in the Basilisk Den, along with my duelbros because we get quite famous for our skills. The same occurs in the fourth and fifth one. During the fifth year we might take the Den down because fuck slave auctions.

>The Grand Summit
At first, I'd just try to take a girl to see some cool art with me.
Around the time people start noticing my dueling skills, maybe the second year, we get assigned to do security. Me and my bros spare the thieves and tell them that if this happens again we're not going to be so merciful. Success leads us to be hired again for security.

>The Gathering of Life
I'll just enjoy the party for the first two years. After the success doing security in the Grand Summit and good Battle Royal results, I should be invited to be the bodyguard of Cynthia Highking. Something scared them during the first year, when I was not the bodyguard. During my first year as a bodyguard nothing happens. During the following years, though, two assassination attempts will occur.
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>>47640171
He's using the secret box made for the new version so he knows it exists, I think he reposts the old, shitty ones on purpose. Probably out of spite, or maybe because he thinks it'll piss people off like in the old days to be funny, or because he likes one of the shittier cards that got replaced like the prostitute one.
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>>47633238
>>47633251
>>47633273
>>47633293
>>47633328
>Name
Xoran

>School
Odesium

>Classes
Martial Training 3
Arcane Magic 2
Smithing 2
Physical Training 2
Enhancing 1

>Companions
Malyvin
Eloise Avery
Bathsheba
Liene

>Events
Battle Royale 3
Security 2
Basilisk Den 1
Fund Raising 1
The Great Hunt 1

Any chance of using Arcane Magic to create weapon constructs that I can wield or at least fire off like bullets? I wanna get my Gates of Babylon on.

Am I doing it right Senpai? >>47639999
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>>47640195
Which is a shame, since that version has ninja Aoi and samurai ghost Sayuri, the two best cards.
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>>47640239
I agree, the new one is much more fun. There are still some cards I don't like (bisexual teacher and cunt-boy loving trap), but for the most part the new version kept the ones with pathos that was interesting instead of just edgy, and added in a bunch of stuff that's interesting/weird like what you might find in an actual harem anime. It fits the genre better and is just generally more enjoyable to play. Sticking with the old one just because you think you can 'trigger' people or that it's worth sacrificing quality for its sake is a bit childish.
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>>47640255
Actually, both would fit in what you'd normally call a "harem anime" (consider School Days is effectively a part of that genre, even if it is to it what Madoka Magica is to magical girls), just very different kinds thereof.
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>>47640316
>Anon runs in to play Devil's Advocate for shitty content.
There's always one of you, huh?
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>>47633238

Name: Trumon Maddok

Odesium
Martial combat 1
Ki 2
Smithing 3
Arcane Magic 4
Elemental magic 5
Knowledge 6
Teamwork 7
Maneuvers or airship training Whatever supports air dogfights more. 8
Mage armor (and enhancement if more then one school perk is allowed.) 10

Silene (centaurs are a tactical blessing. Also horse puss)
Eloise Avery (always have a healer)
Znanje (Drones)
Luvyna (And supporting wind fighter.)
And Jiel (the Zordon of the group.)

Basilisk den (Those pit fights yo)
Research proposal (Gotta show off my robot mecha thesis.)
And Bodyguard (fun, short, and waifuy)

It all started with a toy robot that fell of a shelf onto a young boy's head. Filled with the idea of making large aerial fighting robots to be sky privateers. Trumon joined the Odesium school because of his friends suggestion. Paying his way with power armor pit fights and legal fights Trumon hopes to be a famous name in the sky with his mecha "The Metal Clap." Using thunder and lightning with his suit of armor he made himself, he hopes with his friends he will find fame, fortune, and glory. He also can't seem to stop trying to woo Silene. Some say the relationship is lovely, but others shiver in fear when the two work together in giant armor.

"A boy and his unicorn mecha wearing marefriend..." - Unknown.

"This feels lewd and wrong." - Silene

"I dig giant robots!" Trumon.
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>>47640316
IMHO the darker cards seemed to be inspired by eroge (which School Days originally was, BTW). There's a lot of dark shit going on in that medium and it rarely makes its way to anime, since much of it is frankly pretty subpar. School Days stood out because like Madoka, it was a deconstruction of the genre. It went to show a very cynical vision of what would happen if someone tried acting like a protagonist from one of these games (i.e. taking advantage of multiple girls' insecurities to sleep with all of them and never thinking twice about it) in a less idealized setting.
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>>47633238
>>47633251
>>47633273
>>47633293
>can't be friends with Znanje and Cassiopeia
Want to make AI.
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>>47640380
It can be a real pain trying to dodge around the eroge that are gonna go maximum edge for cheap drama's sake halfway through, sometimes.
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>>47640378
Shit I read the skills wrong.

2 Martial combat 2
1 Ki 3
1 Arcane magic 4
1 Teamwork 5
3 Mage Armor 8
And Maneuvers 1 and Airship training 1
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>>47640400
It's normally not for drama. School Days and the like are part of a fairly specific subgenre. Most dark eroge are dark because the Japanese have some fucking severe repressed sexuality issues. Just hop over to VNDB and count the sheer number of sexual abuse victims, single housewives, kidnapped innocent girls and teen prostitutes who're gonna get violated by some old man (likely a relative of some sort) over a 2 hour game with nothing but shots of them covered in jizz.

Eroge generally get turned into anime under one of two conditions:

1. They're turned into hentai anime. Since those have far smaller distribution they get far less funding and can never be relied on to make even the tiniest fraction of the profit as the regular kind, so costs are cut, the animation is usually terrible, and you'd be lucky to get a whole 2 episodes, if they don't cram the entire content of the game into 1.

2. The overtly sexual elements/scenes are removed. Obviously, this only works with eroge that have some kind of value beyond the sex scenes (Walkure Romanze, Koi to Senkyo to Chocolate, Chaos;Head, etc.). Contrary to popular belief this isn't the case with Amagami. The VN never had any sex to begin with.
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>>47640449
>The overtly sexual elements/scenes are removed. Obviously, this only works with eroge that have some kind of value beyond the sex scenes (Walkure Romanze, Koi to Senkyo to Chocolate, Chaos;Head, etc.)
Oh, and, you know, Fate/Stay Night. I've managed to forget the most famous example somehow.
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>>47640449
>>47640463
Both Walkure Romanze and Koi to Senkyo are examples of stories which weren't even "harem" until the anime. It's one of the problems with shoving the content of a multiple route visual novel into a single series. You either have to select one as canon, or take elements from all the routes and build an original, harem-ized one out of them (KtStC did a little of both since the plot of the anime does include the major storylines of all the heroines, but ends with the protag choosing Chisato, who is the game's canon one). Amagami, which you mention here >>47640449, has a very unusual solution for this. Every 3 episodes of the anime just follow a different route, resetting the continuity each time.
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>>47633238
>>47633251
>>47633273
>>47633293
>>47633328
>Name: Lord Sky of the Thumbleburrow Pixies
>Gender: Male
>Status: Exile

I'm an exiled lord of the Thumbleburrow Pixies who live on the tiny island of Micronasia. The Queen exiled me for summoning a gigantic demoness, Lucy. I may or may not have tried to overthrow her aswell. I was pretty shocked to discover how huge the people on this continent were.

>The Ej Har Institute
The administration of this Hero school advised me against joining... something about "bullying" but I have no idea what that is. I think this athmosphere befits a summoner of my caliber.

>Summoning Magic x3
Do you have any idea how hard it is to summon a giant (normalsized) demoness for someone like me? I'm a master. A GRANDMASTER!
>Unholy Arts x3
It is no surprise I worship 'Balphamarius, Archdemon of Despair' Note: more commonly known as 'Balphy, Gnome of Mischief'
>Knowledge: The Tiny Worlds x2
You'd be surprised how much you giants just don't notice.
>Tactics x2
I almost conquered Micronasia, that took skill. Honest.

>Nashwa
Ah, a fellow summoner. If only she stopped pinching my cheeks and calling me cute.
>Duxix
This primordial looking beast is surely a valuable asset on the battlefield.
>Scal
I too have been denied what is rightfully mine. Let us reclaim our destinies together!
>Inas
Are you sure she is not a fallen angel? She does look the part.
>Evergreen
WOW... I'm not usually one for tall woman but she has that Amazonian thing going for her. Don't get jealous, Lucy! I'm sorry...

>Y1: Battle Royale
>Y2: Battle Royale
>Y3: Battle Royale, Basilisk Den
>Y4: Battle Royale, Security
>Y5: Battle Royale, Bodyguard
I will surely win this tournament 5 years in a row, easily. I mean, Lucy can help me because she is my summon, right?

I think I'll like living in this giant world... for now.

I made the best build ever.
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>>47633251
>bardic
I was super interested in the Bardic Arts class at first; but it's really vague about how it works. I was left with the sense that it's just an "arts" class with the addendum that you can use it to cast magic if you also take a magic class (Arcane, Illusion, Summoning, etc).

If it's supposed to have its own family of effects like potion mixing; please provide some examples. If it is as I suspected, a method for delivering other magic; how would a master bard/novice illusionist differ from a novice bard/master illusionist?

Also to what extent is Ki Attunement Magic vis a vis Lunestier's Refinement class.
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>>47640569
It has personality.
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>>47640594
You implying I'm the fat chick of Hero builds? ;-;
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>>47640614
What are the fat chicks?
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>>47640614
I'm saying I like that yours has character. Not that other people's don't, but I'm lazy so I didn't read many.
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>>47640378
How do robots cast magic?
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>>47633238
>http://www.strawpoll.me/10408204
>>47633251
>>47633273
>>47633293
>>47633328

Heis
School:
Lunestier

Classes:
Year 1 - Ranged Combat, Arcane Magic
Year 2- Arcane Magic, Illusion Magic
Year 3 - Illusion Magic, Aerial Combat
Year 4 - Illusion Magic, Aerial Combat
Year 5 - Aerial Combat, Summoning Magic

Companions:
Duxix, Tennie Northbreed, Malyvin, Trap-Catcher, Mecherath

Events
Year 1 - Break Year
Year 2 - Grand Tournament (Battle Royal, 3v3)
Year 3- Grand Tournament (Battle Royal, 2v2), The Harvest Festival (Fund Raising)
Year 4 - The Grand Summit (Research Proposal), The Gathering of Life (Blind Date, 3,1 Cassiopeia)
Year 5- Grand Tournament (Battle Royal, 1v1), The Harvest Festival (Basilisk Den), The Gathering of Life (Bodyguard)
write up coming up
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>>47640905
>>47640896
a few changes made
now off to the weapon page and companion page after that
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>>47640905
I don't really like the Buff (power) armours that much. I understand why they're all bulky and durable as shit but you already get plenty of durability and strength from being Buff so it feels like overkill.

I'm anxious to see the rest though.
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>>47639916
I generally do builds in my head instead of posting for fear of being mocked.
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>>47640036
Minigirl's the tag.
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Wanted some feedback on my companions so far.

Do people like it as is? What changes would people prefer?
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>>47641052
Two things I notice.

1. Most companions seem to be very prestigious individuals (a Prince, plenty of nobility, a famous Captain, etc.) and if I remember correctly we are not particularly wellknown. This could potentially lead to anon being the assumed party gopher which sucks donkey balls.

2. Some companions feel a bit unfit for the classic murderhobo party. Captain Cornelia Magna is an example, she was/is a pirate Captain with many ships at her disposal, yet she seems to join the party alone, as a gunwielder. Totally out of her element.

I personally dislike companions like Cornelia who will fall in love with you when you resist their charmes. It means that unless that's your goal, you can't take her as a regular companion for all the unwanted attention. She's a waifu or bust basically.

It's looking good though.
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>>47641052
>14th picture
Is that an ork or the hulk?
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>>47641138
Personally I like girls like Cornelia though, I think in this case it's just something that's a 'don't pick it etc' situation.
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>>47633238
People saying Teamwork should be rolled into tactician are wrong, as it's not the same, but I don't think there can be much difference between first and third level of teamwork, even people not taking this course are very good at coordination with their friends, taking one will give you wordless understanding of each other, fighting in unison, 2nd and 3rd courses can't give much more than that, I don't think Dungeoneering, Teamwork, Maneuvers, Physical training should have more than 1-2 courses as you reach peak much faster

>Lunestier
Martial Combat
Tactics x2
Elemental Magic x2
Traps
Teamwork
Magic Refinement
Duellingx2

>Friends
Valerie Bluewood, Farhat, Eydal Northbreed, Mecherath and Suzette Highking

>Events
Battle Royal x5 2v2 with Valerie and 5v5 with whole team
Escort, it would be sad to let her fade out
Fund Raising x4 I love the smell of capitalism in the morning, smells like victory
Security, apply my magic, tactics, traps and coordination with friends in more than tournament way

Traps, none said you can't make magic traps right on the battlefield. Fighting with magic, logic, sabre and backed by friends
>>47640165
A fellow versatile duelist? A salute you, but fighting with fists and Ki seems to crude for me
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>>47641150
Do you like her because you want to waifu her, or could you genuinly see yourself 'friendzoning' her?
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>>47641142
Did i just write ork instead of orc?
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>>47636145
>>47636162
>>47636219

I did the same thing till i saw other builds going x3 in stuff, then re-read it and was disappointed that I'd have to lose skills to be more effective in one. Build now feels far less rounded.

What might have mitigated it a bit is if the 1 elective skill was an automatic mastery, showing that you're just a natural at it.
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>>47641138
>1. Most companions seem to be very prestigious individuals (a Prince, plenty of nobility, a famous Captain, etc.) and if I remember correctly we are not particularly wellknown. This could potentially lead to anon being the assumed party gopher which sucks donkey balls.
I'm kind of not sure what a party gopher but I see what you mean.

In the context of the CYOA, you are most certainly not an average person, and you're not murderhoboing for the most part. I'll add in that Cornelia got her ships confiscated as reparations for her thievery.

>>47641142
>Is that an ork or the hulk?
Yes
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>>47640896
>Ship
CSS. Gunbuster EX
The other three all have pretty deal-breaking drawbacks IMO.
>Character
Fit seems to be a decent middle ground.
Female, because in a fantasy world, nobody expects the girl. I can play up a cute, defenseless image to catch any potential threats off guard.
>Perks
No Obstacle - it's a useful anti-dying skill.
Charismatic - see "Body" section.
Tactician - just according to keikaku.
Lucky - never underestimate the power of luck.
Power Armor - I wanna feel like a walking demigod like in Fallout. While power armor isn't that OP, I hope it at least contributes to the feelings a bit.
>Armor
Stalingrad Titan - UPHOLD MARXISM-LENINISM

Time to wander the earth spreading Communism.

(I made all my decisions in order without reading ahead first, so sorry if this build seems a bit disjointed.)
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>>47640918
M'name's Heis, always ben good with magic, makin Merchents hide their wares i'case Maly n' I were about. I distract them with fancy lights, he swings in for th' goods. I guess some fancy Prof saw me trickin people in th' streets and nvited me to Lunestier. Said I was "uniquely gifted," told 'im I would only go with Mal.

Heis starts out as more of a street rat, growing up with Malyvin. He discovers his use of illusion magic early on and expiraments with random townspeople to get money. Eventually catching the eye of a Lunestier Professor.

Heis' first year at Lunestier starts off rather solitary with only Mal, but he eventually falls in with Duxix, Tennie, and Trap. Mecherath eventually becomes a friend during the second half of the year.

The second year is more interesting with Lunestier hosting the Grand tournament Heis, Duxix, and Tennie join in as a trio, soundly defeat Eydal's team.

Year three Tennie finally gets Heis to rear a wyvern, He and Duxix compete in the Battle Royal in Odesium. The team also helps raise money for Malyvin's family.

Year four the Prof shoves Heis into a research proposal mostly on Illusions that stick to a person's mana than their mind, Also to clear his mind after that stress goes on a blind date with Cassiopeia.

Year five Heis enters the Battle Royal one last time, this time "alone" even though he has a newly minted Gargoyle summon, and a fully grown Wyvern by his side. He also finally tracks down the Basilisk Den with Malyven and practically take all the money. Finally Princess Cynthia requests you as a bodyguard for the Gathering of Life.

>>47640997
Don't worry about it, people generally ignore builds
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>>47641199
>party gopher

Like when Chopper got a 50B bounty because everyone assumed he was just their cute pet instead of an actual member of the Strawhats.

In the same manner we could easily be seen as the squire or attendant of one of our really famous companions, maybe.

Sorry for going all weeb on you.
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>>47640997
Good, a worthless girl like you probably hasn't got anything decent to post anyway.
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>>47636748
Exclusive is kind of a strange term for this cyoa. It doesn't state that the school only courses are the Exclusive courses and it probably should. There is also no difference between the levels you can buy of an exclusive course or not. Nor does it say you can/can't spend some of your 9 points on the class only courses.

A better way, imo, would have been to have 1 class you designate as exclusive which gives you mastery of it, regardless of the other classes you take.

Outside of that the class only classes should be labeled at the top of the cyoa page for them as "Exclusive" if that's how it is.
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>>47641258
Nay, I like One Piece. It is a good manga.
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>>47641271
The cyoa clearly states that except for being exclusive they function exactly like regular classes, hence the 1-2-3 system applies.

I think free mastery would just mess with builds anyway. Not everyone wants to fit in a Master rank exclusive class in their character builds.
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>>47637021
I agree with this. "nope you gotta waste points on underwater basket weaving before you can take water control".
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>>47633238
I'm going to choose as I go here, without looking ahead for what options my choices unlock.
>The Ej Har Institute
I get the feeling that a focus on power over ethics would leave me more powerful than other academies. Plus, the transylvanian décor seems nice.
>first aid (8)
>tactics (7)
>potion mixing (6)
>illussion magic (5)
>summoning magic (4)
>traps (3)
>Stealth (2)
>blood magic (2)
>assassination (1)
>unholy arts (0)
Also, are things like stealth not prerequisites for assassination?
>>47633273
>Luvyna
>Valerie Bluewood
>Eloise Avery
>Nashwa
>Cassiopeia
>>47633293
Sure, I'll participate.
Helvix is a goblin living in human lands after his family was decimated by a rival tribe. Like any goblin he finds it very hard to be taken seriously by bigger races, after reaching physical maturity at the age of 9 like all goblins he has stopped growing and will forever look to humans like a young child. He compensates for this by acting overly mature and promiscuous.
After failing entry in the more physically challenging courses the diminutive creature has taken up a more supportive role in heroing. He can heal, manipulate your enemies and summon darker powers in case things go south.
>>47633328
The great hunt every year
Research proposal, something on Nashwa's creatures or Cassiopeia's dolls
Blind date (rolled offsite, 4 and 4), Helena
Yeah, Korra is pretty hot. I can live with that.
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>>47641413
You fudge'd up on the courses
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>>47633145
>Vagina: 5
>-Stretchy: 5
>-Extra Squeeze: 5

>Ass (Donk)
>-Change Tightness: 5
>-Adaptable Fit: 5

>Breasts (A): 0

>Extras
>-Erogenous Mouth: 5
>-Change Race (Robot): 15

>Magic:
>Locate: 15
>Lightning Bolt: 10

>World (Cyber): 10
>-Robot Waifus: 10

Beep Boop I am lolitabot personal companion system MK IV.

Please make vigorous use of my ass daily from now on, master.
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>>47641288
I mean that there are no longer "exclusive classes that come from your school" you just get to buy classes from your school and the general curriculum as that makes sense anyway. Then you get a single class out of those two sections that you can Exclusivly Master, your choice on what it is.
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>>47641413
>assassination without stealth

I'm guessing that you can still be taught about how and where to strike lethal blows without knowing shit about stealth.
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>>47641495
I take them all once.
Although maybe it would be better to sacrifice something like traps to increase summoning a level.
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>>47633273
>>47633293

There's a severe lack of ranged fighters. Kindly requesting more ranged specialists.
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Now that we're talking about Hero schools and stuff, is there a cyoa where we get to be the headmaster of/ teacher in such a school?
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>>47641730
Bliss was working on converting their dungeon master WIP into something like that, as I recall. Can't remember exactly what happened, but we got Kingdom Diplomacy instead.
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>>47641755
I'll just keep praying then.
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>>47641730
What about an academy for villains?
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>>47633328
could you please make the understanding of the 5 years easier? i mean god, i still don't get it.
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>>47641911
>understanding of the 5 years easier?
you study there 5 years before graduation?
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>>47641975
i meant the 5th page.
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>>47642033
I think you need to take at least 3 different events, since most of them(security, bodyguard and escort look like one time event) repeat each year you can take them up to 5 times. And you also can take repeating 8 times (but author said that he will remove this part)
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>>47638902
Vetala is such a cutie, but Anise is my DFOfu.
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Can we expect a new Branching Heart page?

It's the best CYOA I've seen in quite a while.
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>>47641052
looking good so far. opportunity for romance is always a plus in my book.
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>>47633238
School:
- Ej Har

Courses (10):
- Ranged Combat x1
- Smithing x3
- Illusion Magic x2
- Knowledge x2
- Summoning Magic x2

Companions (5):
- Tarkun Ironstout
- Silene
- Evergreen
- Scal
- Inas

Events (3-8):
- Battle Royale x1
- Security x1
- Blind Date x1 (2,1 Tennie Northbreed)
- Party Planner x4

Parrallaeth:
Born in a travelling band of entertainers, Parrallaeth grew up with actors, bards and trick performers as role models. Sadly, despite a burning passion, Parwalseth lacked the talent required to become an entertainer; leaving her the role of assistant prop manager. Believing her
dissatisfied with her role in the troupe (despite her protestations) her parents have arranged for Parrallaeth to board at Ej Har where they hope
she discovers a job suited for her. If she became a renowned hero, it would please them mightily to sing of her deeds.

Since coming to Ej Har, Parrallaeth has continued what she knows - creating and repairing the instruments of others. The only change is them being instruments of war instead of instruments of merriment. Not wanting to let her parents' money to go to waste and to be useful to party members, Parrallaeth also walks the path of summoning and illusion in addition to her impressive smithing capabilities. Parrallaeth hopes to be a contributing member of a party and would be deeply honoured if you chose her as a companion. Expect a shy but hardworking practical girl eager to prove her worth.
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>>47634061
Getting magic for disobeying goes against the point of "submission". Make it a charge for following a command, and a lower charge for disobeying and getting punished.
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>>47637606

No, without Godslayer you'll be able to just fight the Endbringers off, you need this perk to be actually able to kill them.
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>>47642404
what a nice girl, what range of equipment she can craft?
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>>47640997
I believed you until you posted le anime gurl
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>>47642328
Yeah, I have one ready. Just woke up & finished a couple of last-minute edits. This thread's dying, so I'm waiting before I go and post the whole thing again.
>It's the best CYOA I've seen in quite a while.
Thanks!
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>>47633238
I don't understand how events work. You can participate in an event 8 times and there have to be at least 3 different events, is that it?
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>>47642828
Well there goes my devour them to gain their powers plan.

I just wanted to eat ancient aliens without getting griefed!!
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>>47643103
Go back to plebbit.
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>>47643146
Technically what happens is that they mess with shards. Godslayer technically gives you a protection of sorts, "my abilities function normally." Think of it as an anti-AMF effect. Godslayer shouldn't be needed for Final Form, if you look at it like that. RAW, it's actually better as it grants you specific exceptions, an anti-spell immunity type.
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>>47643258
Ah, I probably phrased that poorly. Basically, they're protected from the effects of shards, but Final Form doesn't target them, it targets you. What I meant by the RAW thing was that guy who posted Animal Control and then made a joke about Godslayer specifically letting him jack Endbringers and Entities with it.
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>>47643154
>omg don't be mean to me silly boys!!!
He/you lost all seriousness by posting that. If you can't see why, that's fine.

still, it's a fucking stupid opinion, but hey, free country.
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>>47633238
>School
Odesium is closest to my own ideals.

>Classes
First Aid x2
Potion Mixing x2
Elemental Magic
Bardic Arts
Knowledge x3
Exclusive: Enhancement

>Companions
Farhat
Eloise Avery
Bathsheba
Hana
Znanje

>Events
Fund Raising
Escort
Research Proposal x3
Battle of the Arts x2

Name: Vivian Chang

Although she's going to an adventuring school, Vivian's true passion is in fact science. The one thing that fascinates her the most is learning what makes the world of magic and adventuring tick, and everything about it. Her number-one dream is to create a theory, or perhaps discover a concept, or do something like that that will launch the magical world into the next great age, and tries to make friends with anyone she feels like could help be a collaborator, or perhaps somebody she'd just like to study (Znanje, Eloise, Bathsheba). As a result, she tends to get her head lost in books and her lack of social experience can make things awkward. However, just because she's a scientist doesn't mean she can't use magic to hold her own in a fight (although she doesn't prefer to, and she knows that some of the more powerful students around would be able to easily crush her in a battle).
On the side, she moonlights as a keyboardist in a band, of which her companion Farhat is also a member.

I don't mind if you use my build as a companion... if you think it's good enough...
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>>47643284
Yeah I guess your le right XD
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>>47643288
I just realized that I only took seven events.
I guess I'll just quickly take Blind Date.

I got... Temmie Northbreed.

We respect each other at least, but nothing really comes out of the date due to our lack of much in common.
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>>47643272
So it is still the case that I could only thrash them with Final Form and wouldn't be able to kill and eat them with Consumption without Godslayer, correct?
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>>47643311
You could try doing Party Planner. Solomon would love someone to help out that he can talk science and study with
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>>47643365
Yeah, that'd no-sell Consumption without it, and will probably get a little bit serious when they notice you trying to eat them. Serious Endbringers and seriously dangerous; I don't even want to imagine what the Simurgh would do. For reference, every, I wanna say half inch? Is twice as hard as the layer before, so you'd need roughly a galaxy buster to go all the way through, according to Wildbow.
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>>47643140
>>47633238
I'm not certain I did this right but it should be fine either way.

Leon
Ej Har
Teamwork 1x, Illusion magic 3x, arcane magic 3x, elemental magic 3x
Duxix, Tarkun, Chandara, Inas, Farhat
1st year: break year
2nd year: battle royale 5v5
3rd year: The great hunt, Blind date (4,1 kara’tee)
4th year: Battle royale 1v1
5th year: Great hunt, Escort, Security, body guard


I feel like a full on magician build is pretty boring and cliche but for some reason I still couldn't resist it.
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>>47643391
Huh, yeah, I could do that. I guess I didn't really read other builds until after finishing mine.

I do feel like switching events because my roll turned out to be unfruitful feels kind of dirty though.
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>>47643412
I have no idea what the canon story is so I was just working on the assumption that individual Endbringers were working alone like Evangelion Angels.

Looks like it's just Final Form and Godslayer as I wouldn't then have points for Consumption. I will still try to become King of Monsters however.
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>>47643525
They worked together, but they didn't want to win. They just wanted to play a game. And like I said, I don't think Godslayer does anything for Final Form, so you'd be better off with Consumption and doing silly shit. Eat eels for lightning powers, or mantis shrimp for super vision, or capes for more powers, or Kryptonians, definitely them.

That said, as far as legitimately killing them, though I made it sound daunting, it's not very hard with the options presented. If you took any of Artificer, Real Eater, Waifu, or TYPE-Sagittarius, you can kill them. Not to mention, unless you took an Extra, you can just kill Eidolon and they'll shut down, and 20 Master or mindbreaking Skitter lets you mind control them.
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>>47640883

The pilot controlling them can. also the magic is for making them really. Hence the smithing and arcane magic.
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>>47639916
I post in about 1 out of 100 threads I read daily. A long long time ago people were asked to lurk more. And there is just no meaningful discussion to contribute, because posting builds doesn't add anything. I do builds in cyoa write them down and save the cyoa. I write stories for rpgs based on those cyoa and then play them with my friends. If I had a reason to post, I would stop lurking, but I don't see any.
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>>47643763
Towergirls have split into their own thread, btw.
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>>47643776
It's still a cyoa, right? and the image limit is far from reached. Did it hurt your feelings?
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>>47643763
>because posting builds doesn't add anything.
Authors appreciate them. Happy authors are prolific authors.
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>>47637606
>>47642828
I just wanna say thanks to the anon who made http://pastebin.com/avqyp3dg the history of Worm CYOAS. It's awesome.
>>47643582
Btw recent worm anon, what was your goal in creating your own version? Did you want to do anything differently than other worm cyoas?
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>>47634344
>See pic related as far as best written is concerned
Trolling much?
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>>47643812
I think if I had made it, I would have at least used the actual names.
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>>47643793
No, I was just wondering if you knew.

So you could, like, go there for updates and stuff if you wanted to.
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>>47643829
I have it open right now the magical girl cyoa as well, but i am just lurking there atm.
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>>47634391
Best girl.
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>>47643763
>because posting builds doesn't add anything
neither does not posting.
neither does all the shitstorms (nothing positive, at least).
Don't you think authors like it when people make posts? A "Thanks for making it" doesn't seem sincere to me without a build.
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>>47643859
>A "Thanks for making it" doesn't seem sincere to me without a build.
Why would people say that if they didn't mean it? Social niceties are n'trequired on 4chan.
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>>47643857
That combination doesn't even make sense. It's self contradictory.
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>>47641413
Maybe spreading into as many skills as possible isn't the best way to go.
If I want to focus more I could choose between
first aid X2, potion mixing, stealth X2, blood magic X2 & assasination X3
or
tactics X2, illusion magic X2, summoning magic X3, unholy arts X3
but that sounds rather boring, I'd rather be unoptimized if it meant more variety
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>>47643950
iirc those are two of four different secrets, and you roll to see which one you get
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>>47643950
What are you talking about? She's quite clearly a futanari double-reverse-crossdresser.
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>>47643879
It shows that you put in effort to actually look closely at the CYOA.

Besides, it's fun for authors to see how people explore their little world.
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>>47643812

>Btw recent worm anon, what was your goal in creating your own version? Did you want to do anything differently than other worm cyoas?

The Anon you replied to wasn't me (thanks to him for explaining things more in depth, by the way, I just retreated after posting my reply), but I'll still answer.

The goal was pretty simple - I wanted to make a Worm CYOA to end all Worm CYOAs. I don't think I succeeded yet, so I'll have to keep patching the damn thing.
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>>47640569
That's fucking cute as hell.
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>>47643801
>>47643859 see:
>>47643879

But to make you happy here is my build:

Lunestier

Arcane magic 3
Elemental magic 2
Knowledge 3
Teamwork 1
Magic refinement (The wording there is not 100% clear)

Mates:
Malyvin, Luvyna, Valerie, Evergreen, Suzette Highking
(I disliked most lunestier companions maybe i'm the only one on that)

Events:
Huntx2
Battle Royale
Escort
Basilisk den
Security
Research
Bodyguard
Bilnd Date

Don't have time to write the backstory i've written for it. Anyways, appart from 2 minor problems the cyoa was pretty good.
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>>47644143
Well, I wasn't saying that "good job" wasn't acceptable in my post. The way I see it, compliments are good, as are builds. Having both is just all the better. Plus, builds serve as feedback. Authors can get a better feel for what is and isn't popular.
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>>47643812
To the worm history anon. I have a version 2 that isn't listed in your imgur repository. I'm assuming it was also made by the guy who made revision 3.
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>>47640569
>Lord Sky of ... Pixies
Woah... Just last night, I made a fairy option in a CYOA where that fairy was named Sky. That's quite a coincidence.
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>no one likes Druidism and monster hunting
>Everyone just goes to Lunestier for Magic Refinement
Being a St Flares student is suffering
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>>47640896
anyone have a source for the heavy perk durable pic ?
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>>47644253
You've got a monopoly on those disciplines now.
Your services will be in much higher demand comparatively.
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>>47644253
>magic refinement
>duelling
>diplomacy
Literally perfect school
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>>47644253
>monster hunting
I love monster hunting, but haven't had the time to finish my build.
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>>47643582
Ah, so Godslayer doesn't let you harm Endbringers with Final Form then?

Goodbye dreams of being Godzilla, we hardly knew ye.
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>>47644263
But I like competition, and giw am I supposed to trust the validity of my findings without peer review and validation?

>>47644272
Perfect for snooty nobles and politicians who don't want to get their hand's dirty with field research and hands on experience
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>>47644335

There was this one time when Chevalier tried to hit an Endbringer core with his superpowered sword and he failed to do so, because of the restrictions, as far as I can remember.

So, the same thing should happen to you if you don't have Godslayer.
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>>47644416
My post (>>47644335) was asking if you could hurt them with Godslayer and Final Form since >>47643582 was unsure if they worked together.
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>>47644335
What? I'm saying that Final Form is a buff that targets yourself. The protections that Endbringers have against shards don't trigger against it at all. Otherwise, Lung couldn't have fought Leviathan when he first triggered. It's worthless because it gives you a permission for direct attacks, but Final Form isn't a direct attack.
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>>47644462

I implied that yes, you should be able to hurt them with Final Form and Godslayer. Without it your power would fail when you attempt to even scratch an Enbringer Core.

>>47644479

What happened with the Chevalier situation then? Upgraided sword wasn't a direct attack, since power was directed on the sword.
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>>47644253
I'll get there eventually.
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>>47644479
>>47644506
Thank you. I suppose I should actually read the source material if I'm going to make a character from its CYOA.
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>>47644506
I really don't get the difference, but IIRC the first thing Lung did when he triggered was to bunch Levi until he hit the "retreat" threshold, so there has to be a difference, somehow. If I had to guess, Final Form is a transformation sequence, and Chevalier's power is some weird spacefolding pseudo-alchemy thing where several objects take the shape of a single object, so the difference is that the sword itself is actively cheating, but Lung's body is getting gradually pumped, so even if it's disabled when he shoves himself inside Levi, the changes that already occurred persist.
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>>47644352
I was going to make another st. Flares build to compete with you but then I took a closer look and realized it's complete shit. It's only a good choice if you hate sitting still and need to have a field trip every other week.
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>>47644253
I'm finally able to read the cyoa and make a build, so I might pick it.
The only part of the CYOA I've seen is that that school teaches Monsterhunting.
Of course, I have no clue what the others offer.
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>>47644569
What's wrong with going on field trips with class mates, especially when, through CYOA magic, you all have superpowers and they're all your friends?
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>>47644658
Nothings wrong with that at all. I think you might have responded to one of those types who consider the purpose of a CYOA to accrue as much personal power as possible.
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>>47644658
Oh nothing, except the other schools have way better exclusive classes.
Skills that aren't useful primarily for homeless wanderers.
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>>47644569
>Elitist daddy's-money Ivy-leaguer looks down upon vocational schooling
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>>47644667
Nerds? In *MY* CYOA general?
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>>47644691
You can't fault me for not choosing it when I have more prestigious alternatives at least.
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>>47644689
What do you think heroes are?
Nerd who sit in their studies and pampered nobles who don't act until the problem is at their doorsteps?
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>>47644705
What a strange dichotomy to hold.
Either you're proactive and sleeping in the mud or you're a feckless nobleman.
A hero isn't necessarily an adventurer you know. I think I'll do great rising up the the challenge without having to eat rats thank you very much.
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>>47644705
Look, as the mage, I deserve the right to act stereotypically unpleasant and difficult about hoboing through the wilderness on my first adventure, I don't want to spoil that for the party. I mean, even though we're all mages and nobles, possibly barring the weird amnesiac with serial killer vibes.
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>>47644701
All I hear is
>SNOB
>N
>O
>B
>>47644705
THIS GUY'S GOT THE RIGHT ATTITUDE.
Heroes are people who GO FUCK SHIT UP, not sit and read their little nerd books in the nerd library at nerd school.
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