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First for SNIPARS

>>47549001
I love those sniper models.

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Grey Knights are best.

>>47549030
If I wasn't doing an Armoured Battlegroup army, I would be all over those snipers.

>>47548952
this thread needs more grandmaster flash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4o8TeqKhgY

How would I make an MC warboss?

>>47549154
homebrew

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Post your Kill Team photos. Today I started a Tallarn, Stormtrooper, Sentinel force for HoR. Islamic Terrorist themed.

>>47549154
You'd have to homebrew it.

Personally, I would go for around 20-25 points for +1 S, T, and W. Call it a Big Boss upgrade or something and have it be a 1 of upgrade in the army. Probably mutually exclusive with a warbike.

negro music makes me want to dance.

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>>47549037
>mfw skullreaver bloodthrister takes out draigo with just a few swipes

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>>47549296

Question. Is there any actual pictorial evidence of Ork 'reproduction'? Or what the fungus actually looks like?

>>47549001
Those poses are great.

>"Ivanov."
>"Da, Lipinski."
>"Why are we sniper?"
>"What you mean, 'Why are we sniper?' We are sniper because we are good at being sniper."
>"I know this. But...WHY are we even being sniper at all?"
>"Because the Commissar will shoot us if we are not sniper."
>"Da. But why need for snipers in first place? Why need for Guard in first place? Why can Mankind just not live in peace with self? Then no need for us to be sniper."
>"Because Mankind is not only being in galaxy, Lipinski. Other beings whisper lies in ear of men, and convince them to rebel against glorious Emperor. As long as other beings exist, Mankind cannot know peace."
>"...Da. But what happens when Mankind wipe out other beings? What if Mankind looks at self in mirror one day and realizes it cannot tell difference between other beings and man, like old book about swine and human on Agri-World?"
>"That is why Emperor protects, Lipinski. As long as we believe in Emperor, there is no need to fear the shadow in ourselves, because Emperor protects us from ourselves so that we may protect others in His stead."
>"...Da. You are right, Ivanov. I drank too much Catachan amasec last night, and it made me think too much on self. Being Sniper is best."
>"Da. The Emperor protects."

>>47549044
Vosttoyans really need more love.

And mustache wax.

>>47549335
Wow! A Greater Daemon took out a T4 guy with a few swipes!

What a tactical genius you are anon, truly you are superior to CRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED.

>>47549379
A T4 guy fluffed as someone who cockslaps daemons all day long in the warp.

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>>47549037
I got somebody I know to edit this picture which had some really lazy shit on it. Lots of people missed it until I pointed it out, but thankfully it's fixed now and worth a save.

>>47549405
>>47549335
My draigo took out 2 skullreaver bloodthirsters. BOOM.

>>47549405
Wow! Fluff doesn't follow crunch? You are observant, wise and tactically astute! You could have been Warmaster, anon!

I mean, a single Death Jester could solo 12 Adeptus Custodes in melee on the tabletop!

>>47549452
>12 Adeptus Custodes
They have rules now?

>>47549421
Should have gotten them to take care of the KNOWNOFEARTH on the right leg

>>47549452
Easy there sparky, no one asked you to hunt and pecker your posts with your dick.

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C'mon guys, groooove with me. No sense letting all those Battletech dweebs have all the fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xJWQPdG7jE&index=3&list=RDQHGOO73Gxg4

My super casual friendly list!

HQ: Fireblade (60)
Troop: x5 Fire Warriors (45)
Troop: x5 Fire Warriors (45)
Lord of War: KX139 Ta'unar Supremacy Armour (600)

Total: 750

This is such a silly formation. Does any tournaments use 750 as the level?

>>47549470
Soon(tm).

But seeing as they're above Spess Muhreens in fluff and a Death Jester would struggle with 12 Space Marines in melee, it's easy to work out. They're not going to be worse.

>>47549481
It was a joke, I'm sorry there was no laughter track accompaniment so you could tell.

>>47549479
Known Of Earth. I originally thought it was "Know No Fearth", but the former makes sense.

Yeah, it's not great, but I had already disturbed him from his actual job to do it, didn't want to push my luck.

>>47549647
That makes too much sense for it to be true. You just blew my mind.

>>47549590
Havent seen this bait in like 3-4 months.

>>47549630
With how angry and bitchy people get on here all the time it wasn't obvious.

>>47549823
I had hoped the excessive use of exclamation marks and the sarcastic faux compliments would have been enough, but I see your point. Sorry anon.

>>47549764
Yeah, I did qualify it by saying it is so fucking stupid. I'd love to present it to a 750 point match to see what happened. Of course it'd be 'fuck off' but....

>>47549897
It's all good. I get distracted by my six other tabs and foolish wishing for a Sisters update to get bogged down by internet posts anyways.

In terms of modding: why Soulstorm?

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>>47549897
Hope you don't mind I'm running an unbound list :^)

>My bloodthirster gets plinked to death with lasguns.

Life is suffering.

>>47549982
Now it's my time to turn 360 degrees and walk away, I don't play cheeselists, sorry!

>>47549934
GW can't be blind to see the made cash proxy SoB figures are getting. Raging Heroes alone made like $500k and they didn't even have any solid models.

>>47550011
The Grishnak models are 100x the 3rd party go to over Raging Hormones and their pinup force.

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>>47550005
Fuck you, Warpspawn.

>>47550005
Imperator Vult!

>>47550011
>turn 360 degrees

>>47550011
>GW can't be blind to see the made cash proxy SoB figures are getting. Raging Heroes alone made like $500k and they didn't even have any solid models.

Most of you fuckers would still only buy second hand from ebay or recasts if GW did sell new SoB.

>>47550194
>being this new

>>47550196
it's not a lot but i'd absolutely buy a getting started box of theirs and some other stuff if they sold some plastics.

Praetorian guard will forever be the one I want the most though.

>>47549501
>Emps isn't dead
>Horus just threw off his groove SO HARD that he is still recovering now, 10k years later
The sheer absurdness makes it kind of fitting for the 40k setting.

>>47550196
Most of my current Army is new. Likewise I'd buy an equal sized force in plastic if given the chance.

And I know I'm not alone in that

>>47550194
>he doesn't moonwalk
Wew lad

>>47550263
I assume the Emperor stormed Horus' ship belting out "I Will Survive"

>>47550284
I bet those imperial Karaoke nights were great.

>>47550245
>>47550273

There are a few who will, but you know it's true.

>>47550284
the lols

I still need somebody to bump my dakka dakka thread. It would be nice to get at least one response today.

>>47550376
(you)

Is it better to take 14 Scions with Hotshot Lasguns, or 6 Scions with HS Lasguns, and 4 with HS Volley Guns?

>>47550319
Yeah, but you could argue the same about Dark Eldar who sold so well GW rushed out a second release wave for their codex early.

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>>47550086

I think theyre kind of cool.

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So I just ordered pic related off of ebay. I know there's multiple versions of the basilisk kit; which one is this?

>>47550416
You mean in two squads? How are you setting this up? What's their goal on the battlefield?

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>>47548952
I'm new to 40k and kind of overwhelmed a bit by the amount of options and other stuff I can take on my characters in the Cult Mechanicus/Skitarii list. Anyone have some experience/at least tell me the stuff not to take? My Ranger alphas I think I'm just going to leave with Galvanic Rifles, but my Magos I'm kinda lost on.

>>47549335
On average I'd still put money on Draigo cock slapping a skullreaver bloodthirster.

>>47550196
Everyone that bought or will buy Raging Heroes or Grishnak models would buy GW models if they were the same price and quality. That's hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of product. Which is why it's stupid that they haven't done it. There's no possible way that they could lose money by updating SoB.

Although at this point they should probably just buy up the Grishnak molds and probably hire the sculptor. There's no way updated official GW models will look better than that.

>>47550507
Bulk of a 250 point Kill Team.

>>47550531
Are they plastic models? Because that's what GW has been steadily working towards.

>>47550284
I like to think that the Emperor was cracking wise while storming throughout the ship killing heretics looking for his son.
>"Heresy me, now you don't!"
>"See ya later, terminator!"
>"Psyker punch!"
>"Kiss my shiny metal ass!"
>"Who's ready for a perpetual ass whoopin'?!"

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Hold me /tg/, my friend's cadians just blew apart my dark eldar without breaking a sweat. Two pie plates wiped my haywire scourges and then I got autocannoned and boltered to death. Should I have scooped as soon as we rolled purge the alien?

>>47550648
>dark eldar
>Should I have scooped as soon as we rolled purge the alien?

You should have scooped after you finished assembling and painting your models.

>>47550648
Dont you have access to perfect deep striking monstrous creatures with flamers that spit misery? Because that shit fucks imperial guard like a cheap whore.

>>47550543
If they're moving around, then volley guns get two shots to max range all the time vs normal only get two shots at half range. Depends on terrain, really.

Goddammit!
Wake Up!

I need more 40k!

How often do you guys play? I'm new and my flgs only plays once a week. That seems like not enough time to grasp the rules...

>>47550691
Salvo is half range when moving.

>>47550700
Once a week is pretty normal. I end up playing anywhere between once a week to once a month.

>>47550713
Oh yeah. Well, you still get a few inches over normal rapid-fire.

You could also sit the volley guns on the objectives and not move them while the rest of the dudes go and kill people. In a team. A kill team, if you will.

>>47550086
>it's the Grishnak shill episode

Look, they're nice models, but so are the Raging Heroes ones. No need to shit on a company actually bothering to do proxy models. The range RH does seems to be larger than Grishnak and have the bonus of having English sites to buy from. I can't find any English, easy to use, sites for Grishnak but there we go.

>>47550531
Yep, If there's nothing from GW then i'll go elsewhere for them.

>>47550601
He'd be like Stone Cold Steve Austin but with golden armour, Whating heretics and drinking beer.

>>47550700
If you're having trouble with rules in a practical sense, you can always do some scenarios against yourself.

>>47550770
>shill

while I hate this word, the amount of times I've seen this company in the last week is outstanding. I never heard of them then days of links to dakkadakka appeared. I find it suspicious, but I can't care too much as they're SoB.

>>47550531
See, it's these comments about how good they are which I find strange. They're nice models, but they're not so good that I'd go as far as saying that.

>>47550491
You're not allowed to like them. Buy Grishnak models. Don't waste your money on Buy My Model Because Tits company. Grishnak is the way. Buy from them.

Grishnak.

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>>47550696
WAKE UP

IT'S GAMING TIME

>>47550815
I've never heard of Grishnak before and my weak sleep-deprived Google-fu turned up nothing. Pics/links?

what Start Collecting box should I buy tomorrow?

>>47550875
DA BIG GUY of equal pay and injuring vanilla midgets

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>>47550949
Ad Mech. Best deal. Best army.

Praise the Omnissiah.

>>47550828
I like Grishnak too. Im not buying either, I have enough models.

Which regiment is the comfiest? My money's on the Catachans since they love their horrible hellhole, or the Vostroyans.

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>>47550949
ORKZ

As long as you aren't retarded you can beat anybody with anything.

>>47549205
boring concept

>>47551051
Bullshit.

>>47551016
Scions. every night is camping night.

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>>47550901
That's the thing. Google-Fu doesn't turn up shit. This is the link that was spammed for a few days (via DakkaDakka), but I cannot link directly due to 4chan spam filter (and rightly so, I say).

Here is picture though.


I mean they're neat and all, but...

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>>47549205
>Islamic terrorist themed
Anon, that's dull. Real dull. The model's great but the concept is just dull.

So, which Ghostkeel formation is the least annoying?

>>47551139
The one that isn't fileded

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>>47550901
>>47551129
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/691960.page

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I want to know about ghoskeels and breachers but i'm too lazy to sift through the tau codex. What do they do?

>>47551106
Didn't think of them as allowing comfort.

>>47551171
That's some serious manface on the top corner helmetless model.

>>47551180
ghost keel you
breachers breach

>>47551183
You just gotta change your viewpoint on things. Nothing like traveling through uncharted jungles with a rifle in hand and a sleepingbag/backpack hanging from your shoulders along with some of your pals .5 miles away from the enemy's stronghold.

>>47551180
Ghostkeel: Stealth riptide/monstrous creature.
Breachers: Fire Warriors with a gun that gets better the closer they are.

>>47551171
Yup. They do. I will mix them with my Raging Heroes at some point.

>>47551180
Ghostkeels: T5 W4 MCs with hella dakka and a 2+ cover save if their drones are alive and they're 12" away
Breachers: if they're 6" away, their guns are S6AP3, they get a 5+ invul save if they take the new drone.

>>47550875
Does this make Punk Leandros?

>>47548952
Does anyone saved the pictures of the new berserkers and sonic marines from the previous thread? Did anon posted the new thousand sons and plague marines?

>>47551171
holy shit these look fucking good

Fiddled with my 1000 pointer (not got models yet, never played Tau either).

HQ: Cadre Fireblade (60)
Troop: x5 Fire Warriors (45)
Troop: x5 Fire Warriors (45)
Heavy: Sky Ray Gunship (115)

Formation: Ranged Support Cadre
x4 Pathfinders (44)
x4 Pathfinders (44)
x4 Pathfinders (44)
x3 Broadsides with HYMP (195)
x3 Broadsides with HYMP with Advanced Targeting Systems (204)
x3 Broadsides with Heavy Rail Rifle with Advanced Targeting Systems (204)

Total: 1000

Has anyone else seen the Battle of Vedross unboxing?

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/05/bols-unboxing-battle-of-vedros-40ks-new-starter.html

As someone who started playing via the AoBR set, I actually am pretty excited for this, and I hope that $10 for 10 Orks on Ebay becomes a thing again.

>>47551180
>Ghostkeel

Basic troop choice with a big spooky anti-psyker aura. Can shoot plasma through walls and teleport across the map

>Breachers

Elite squad with Rail Rifles, Get 3+ saves due to using heavier armor, and can infiltrate.


You should really read the damn codex

>>47551191
Will you provide some pretty shouting faces? This is like the fucking horseface argument. Hot chicks are hot only in certain circumstances, and anyone can get jabbafaced with the right amount of anger or disgust or horsefaced with a dick in their mouth.

Seriously. Show me a hot not-man face in that pose.

>>47551180
Ghostkeels
>Big fucking robot
>Goes invisible n shit
>Jams iron sights
>Masks the sounds of its engine/jetpack and the large footprints in the ground

Firewarrior Breachers
>Shotgun hot heads
>Born with two fingers instead of three
>Guns are really powerful
>They aim so bad they have to be close to do damage

On a scale of 1-10, how cheesey is this list?

HQ: Fireblade (60)
Troop: x5 Fire Warriors (45)
Troop: x5 Fire Warriors (45)

[Heavy Retribution Cadre]
x1 Ghostkeel (130)
x1 Stormsurge (360)
x1 Stormsurge (360)

Total: 1000

>>47551278
Yes

>>47551208
That does sound sort of comfy.
>>47551248
Did you really believe the edition's name?

>>47551255
Seems solid list. Watch out for Wyverns.
Actually I feel that it's lacking in anti-infantry firepower.

>>47550500
There aren't really, it's pretty much all the same. One kit comes with two crew members and one (the newest one) does not. This seems to be the one from 4th edition and so should have some crew members.

>>47551151
Tough. One's getting fielded. Which one do you chose to go against?

>>47551278
Remove mechas. Add more Vespids and Kroot. Go against the stereotype that all Tau players field mechas. Be a rebel!

>>47551303
the one from the codex where it fills a slot on the optional CAD slot.

>>47551202
I should punch you in the face

>>47550696
Don't we all? GW have been infuriatingly slow on the 40k front, I fear the worst, I fear age of the Emperor.

>>47551264
Does anyone know when it's going to release?

>>47551310
Maybe if those things didn't suck people would use them.
Kroot need to go back to being assault squads instead of sniper gangs

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>>47551104
I'll admit, it's not easy being green.
I'm not going to say that I regularly curbstomp Tau and Eldar.
The key is use your units tactically and not go full retard mode.

Usually what I do is bring a unit of 18 boyz with a painboy and a warboss in a battlewagon, 2-3 units of boyz in trukks and a MANz missile or two depending on the point value. You can support with whatever you like based off personal taste (I personally like lootas, Warbikers,or blitza-bommers)
Fire off the Manz missile(s) and the battlewagon at whatever you want to die, and use the trukk boyz as your swiss army knife.

Now this tactic won't work 100% of the time and will require tailoring against certain metas, but I've won about 60-70% of games with this tactic.

Also play objectives

You can never truly lose with Orks, because as long as you had fun you've won

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>>47549348

>>47551291
>Did you really believe the edition's name?
Some anon did post a page of a white dwarf with the new sculpts for berserkers and sonic marines but then he/she/it deleted a few minutes later.

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>>47551361
I see.
So to defeat orks I must take away their fun.
I shall use this knowledge well, thank you anon.

>>47551361
The most fun I had playing orks was when I found one in my box by random. He is somewhere in someones lawn after he became a stormboy on the 4th.

>>47551360
How are they bad?
>>47551380
That was probably GW wanting to spread false hope.

>>47551171
Fuck me, unbreakable skeleton dick incoming.

>>47551403
Don't get too bony now.

>>47551402
Vespid are too expensive and don't put out enough firepower for their cost
Kroot are only useful for massed sniper fire

Wouldn't command squads and chaplains raise space marine companies to over 100 soldiers each? How do some codex chapter have exactly 1000 marines.

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Is this orky enough?

>>47551292
Really? I had thoughts (I discussed with another anon few days ago) of removing the Sky Ray and 3 Broadsides (195, so ignore the targeting systems). Then adding one Riptide with Ion Accelerator (185) and x2 Crisis Suits with Fusion Blasters with Shield Drones.

I think that's 998, but I can't remember. My hope was that HYMP would deal with infantry, with the ATS ones sniping units, while the HRR ATS Broadsides sniped tank Squadrons (at least, I hope that's how Precision Strikes works against vehicle squadrons, would really only matter against Imperial Guard and maybe Space Marines). With the Sky Ray shooting down aircraft. Pathfinders are essentially 8 Marketlights each when Broadsides use them, so boost them to BS5 (max usefulness) and Ignore Cover (assuming it needs it).

>>47551430
I only think it's 1000 marines in the sense of 10 companies of 100.
Because there's also the Librarians, the Techmarines, the apothecaries, the command squads, the honor guard, and some other people I'm probably forgetting.

>>47551443
If you believe it is, it is.

So I have been wondering for a few days now

Could an Ork become a Daemon Prince?

>>47551376
Thanks, where is that from, anon?

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>>47551430
Those marines are just the regular marines in each company.
>>47551443
None at all because that's Tau crud. This is Orky.

>>47551473
Not him, but I believe that's from an older codex like maybe 2-4E.

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>>47551380
Did someone save it? I'm not believing any of you bastards without some proof.

>>47551428
The only way vespid will be good is if they are updated and then they'll be changed to jetpack unit, 4+, with a ranged S5 AP3 assault 3 weapons rending and a copy of battle focus.

But what I really want is more kroot units, kroot riders, kroot with wings, knarlocs, new types and more units.

>>47551498
That's why I'm asking, I couldn't save it, I for one I'm pretty hyped myself.

>>47551455
If you take a riptide, take the Heavy Burst Cannon. At 1000 points you won't be facing much that the rate of fire won't be able to deal with, so the ion accelerator just puts you at risk of blowing up
I'd say no to the fusion suits since the heavy rail rifles should be enough to do your anti-amor work. It would depend on the list you fight though.
Consider missile drones for the missile-sides if you make room for them

>>47551493
Thanks. I was trying my best to find Ork Fungus for a friend who makes war gaming boards. He's currently done this but wasn't sure if it was good enough for his customer. I'll post it in another comment so people see it. Thanks.

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>>47551482
Fine, is this orky enuf.

>>47551482
So the chapter master is also a squad sergeant on the side?

>>47551498
I'm doubting it. GW being nice to CSM players? That would throw the world off balance, unless nothing changes ruleswise. My money's on they're actually new AoS Chaos stuff for Khorne.

What's the army tier list? I want to be a huge faggot and pick the most top tier army when I go to my local GW store tomorrow.

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Right, as I said in another post, my friend is a wargame board maker. He does custom boards. They were going to be dirt cheap too, £65 for a water feature 2x2 square, but they lost their cheap Chinese supplier and it's rocketed up to £100+.

Anyway, he's doing a Ork board for a client and the client wants Ork fungus, but he (the board maker) isn't too sure about the Ork fungus design and he is struggling to find references.

Anybody able to help out or give views on this current board?

>>47551501
Vespid rules and stats are already great, they just cost too much.

>>47551354
The guy in the video said it would be released in June but didn't specify a date. I would assume it would be early in the month, though.

>>47551547
There was 3.5. The nicest GW has been to CSM. Also the reason why they are like what they are at this current time.

I'm trying to convince my buds to let me run corsairs every once in a while instead of straight Dark Eldar, but apparently to them Corsairs "only bring the best of the 2 Eldar codexes", and apparently Craftworlders are weaker than Corsairs because Corsairs have better wargear, psyker powers, everything. I've tried reasoning with them that part of Craftworld's probelems are formations, too, which I'm not aware that Corsairs have any. What can I tell them to convince them that Corsairs are strong, but not CWE cheese? I've already told them about the harder regroups/LD checks. I really just think they're stuck in the "Forgeworld stuff is automatically broken" mindset.

>>47551553
Eldar, Wraith Knights and Jetbikes with Scatter Lasers. Farseers and Warlocks out the ass.

>>47551561
Green. Make it green.

>>47551531
Glad to be of service.
>>47551533
That's Orky enough.
>>47551544
Nah. A chapter master has to go throw too many hijinks if Chapter Master taught me anything to be a sergeant on the side.
>>47551571
That was odd GW. I was talking about modern GW.

>>47551573
Your group sounds like toxic faggots. Get the book and sit down with them. Or, tell them to show exactly where they are more powerful.

or
oR
OR

You can ask them "What is the best of the Dark Eldar codex?" because for god damn sure, there was nothing "good" in there

>>47551561
That board is beautiful
Is Ork fungus particularly different from regular fungus?

>>47551590
>I was talking about modern GW.

There's an even newer GW, slowly getting better.

>>47551600
That's a WIP taking its baby steps, m8.

>>47551600
We should call the slightly older GW "Melee" edition because Kerby sucks ass.

I fucking love kroot.

They do some work.

>>47551645
Kroot are animals, and an insult to the Omnissiah.

>>47551645
That is of the true. Tau wouldn't be able to function without any drones and their society would fall apart without kroot doing the manual labor and without drones to wipe their ass after shitting.

>>47551473
>>47551493
I think it came from Gorkamorka, actually. Not 100% sure, to be honest.

>>47551645
aww, man, their melee got nerfed.

>>47551661
DELETE THIS

>>47551645
>I love fucking kroot
FTFY
you fucking heretic

>>47551667
>I love heretic fucking kroot fucking you
FTFY
Ya filthy slaaneshi fuckboi

>>47551667
They reproduce by back rubs. You ain't no Ordo Xenos man are you? Read a book sometime.

>>47551682
Their backs are big phallus dick surfaces

>>47551661
I mean from 4th ed

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>>47551645
>MFW a squad of 10 Kroot made a C'tan implode and take like 4 units of Necrons with him

It was then that I learned to love and embrace them.

>>47551697
DELETE THIS

>>47551697
>no kroot waifu to exchange backrubs with

y liv

>>47551710
>Wanting to get nightly splinters and have to pay child support at the same time

flthy casul

>>47551593
Right? The potentially best things in the codex are Venoms or Incubi murder squad.

http://www.malleus.dk/Ordo/NameGenerator.aspx
I found this. I got Lucius as a result twice. That name really is overused in-universe.

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So does 40k have a meta game where someone busts out a sweet list, posts it online, and then other people copy it for tournaments?

Or are meta games more isolated to whatever store you play at.

Like did someone post a sweet Ork list online and every ork player you come across plays it?

>>47551742
>http://www.malleus.dk/Ordo/NameGenerator.aspx
What kind of name is Deeann

>>47551466
Infinite universe and olenty of unstable plotonium means any stupid shit is possible.

>>47551760
Both. Most people introduce new lists every now and again but most metas are build as counter lists to what other people have.

>>47550517
Check the tactics pages on 1d4chan

>>47551786
DELETE THIS

>>47551402
>How are they bad
They aren't dirt cheap, aren't battlesuits and they don't bring markerlights or S:D.

>>47551599
Yes, there's only some semi canonial work on it, but ork fungus is a mixture of treditional fungus and animal.

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>>47551586
Heh, I guess so. Dunno if the guys client would want that. I just wanted to help.

>>47551599
Yeah they make great boards. This is another part of the Ork board he's making for the guy, I dunno really.

>>47551656
Ah. Well, shouldn't matter.

>>47551798
Okay. I did. Simply cause I made a mistake.

>>47551527
Re-posted as I made errors.

How about...

HQ: Fireblade (60)
Troop: x5 Fire Warriors (45)
Troop: x5 Fire Warriors (45)
Heavy: x1 Riptide with Advanced Targeting System (183)

Sub-Total (330)

Formation: Ranged Support Cadre
x4 Pathfinders (44)
x4 Pathfinders (44)
x4 Pathfinders (44)
x2 Broadsides with HYMP and x2 Missile Drone Each (178)
x2 Broadsides with HYMP and x2 Missile Drone Each (178)
x2 Broadsides with Heavy Rail Rifle and x2 Missile Drone Each (178)

Total: 999 (I think)

I can mix the Broadside load outs depending on who I get. I put the ATS on the Riptide mainly due to having spare points, but since it's able to do 8 shots standard (or 12 with Nova) the Precision Shots could help down heavy weapon guys. Though I dunno if this works, long time since I read the exact rules for Precision Shots. I just thought 8 S6 AP4 shots was neat, since it's likely one will hit a 6 every turn. If I Nova Charge, should be statistically 2 6's, meaning 2 Precision Shots, which could then Rending (though unlikely) which could end pesky Heavy Weapon guys.

But, who knows, not really smart and I can't remember shit.

>>47551139
The one that just denies overwatch.

So fucking hillarious to find that in a Tau army.

Crap.

I spent all day on 4chan posting about warhammer 40k.

I didn't get any work done on my models.

My heads still in the crapper.

I couldn't get in the right mood.

>>47551810
Don't forget algae.

>>47548952
I thought we agreed to remove chickin.

>>47552056
I thought we agreed that you would kill yourself. Stop shitposting in every thread about your chicken removal obsession.

>>47552056
I thought we agreed to stop shitting up threads talking about it, yet here you are.

>>47551760
i make my list based on what i finished recently, which in this case is the blue scribes and screamers

>>47552082
>>47552085
The guy used to be a tripfag shitposter, you surprised he's a faggot? If you want, report him and move on.

>>47552010
I know this feel for too long. I've started sticking models together for the first time in 15 years. Well, maybe not first. 2nd. I promised I'd stick most of them together before I bought new stuff and I failed that so hard. Regardless, I want it done so I can build a diorama and have my models set up.

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>>47548952
Remove the chicken!

>>47552233
wtf are you on about?

>>47549037
What's a good setup for someone who wants to start a grey knight army? I wanna get into the 40k series and the grey Knights spoke to me on a spiritual level.

Will Tyanids be buffed any time soon?

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>>47551792
Oh wow, there's a ton of stuff here. Thank you!

>>47552085
>>47552082
see.
Chickin lovers are bad people

>>47552176
yes

report chickin.

>>47552279
I'll be completely honest with you, anon. I made the mistake of taking Grey Knights as my first army. They called to me like they did you. They are EXTREMELY unforgiving for new players. You will lose A LOT. They were also really gutted with their update form 5th to 7th. Currently the massive increase in point-per-model they have in comparison to regular Space Marines is completely unwarranted. They've got BEAUTIFUL minis, which seems to be the trade off for being terrible on the table.

But, if I cannot sway you away from them for now, a typical set up is:

Librarian, 10-20 Terminators, 2 Dreadknights, and if you have the points, either 5-10 Purifiers or 5-10 Interceptors. If you're feeling manly, add Draigo. Those units listed above are basically our only truly viable units in the codex.

>>47552279
Librarian, Terminators, Dreadknight are the core of your army and probably the best part.

>>47552237
See >>47552176 it's a meme to shit up the threads. it's shitposting. Somebody else will fill you in, doubtless, and the cycle will happen again for the 100th time.

>>47551547
>>47551380
>>47551291
>>47551248
I had a look for you, but it isn't in archives. I did see shitposting about the fucking chicken and going "hur dur this one piece of art in AoS means it's all shit everybody lets point and laugh xD isn't AoS shit xD" posts which shouldn't be in 40k.

AH well...

>>47549335

>mfw thirster charges through cover, Draigo beats him.

>>47552357
Would lasplas razorbacks be functional for them at all in terms of ranged support?

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>>47552233

>>47552298
No. /tg/ has told me GW is run by evil jews and they never do anything right. So expect them to get worse.

>>47552367
we had a deal.

chickin lovers broke it. Now it is war.

>>47552379
Actually, yes. I personally use TL Las Razorbacks to move the Purifiers up the board because they don't have Deep Strike.

Daily reminder to Wolf haters.

The Wolfborn LIVES!

You started shit a few weeks back and we told you that it was a fakeout but you didn't listen. How stupid are you guys to think that GW would kill off a modeled Marine character?

Also the Dark Angels HH treachery is soon to be revealed to the Wolves by an Inquisitior. Who is hyped for the Space Wolves reaction and response

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>>47552452
Awooooooo~

Forgot to mention something else.

The Redmaw returns!

>>47549364
10/10

>>47552388
From now on its bland nopicture version every thread.

Weeds out the lazy mobilefags who cannot catalogue and gets all their game knowledge from dakkadakka spoonfeeding.
win/win/win situation.

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>>47552388

>>47552452
I still wait for when Dorn returns and kicks BT to the curb.

>>47552484
i am good with that

>>47552392
Fun fact, cleansing flame can hit flyers.

>>47550500
also it's based on the older chimera, so it has those god damned cilinders to put the tracks on

it's also a little wider

other than that, nothing much

>>47552388
Get off 4ch. Your tard wranglers are looking yor you.

>>47552500
Im sorry to hear that, you must be such an embarrassment to your family, waking the neighbours at sunrise with your crowing, scribbling chikens on the walls and pecking your food off the floor.

>>47552526
no.
this is where I belong. i am the one who fights chickins and their loves.

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>>47552388

>>47551493

its 3E, showed up in gorkamorka

>>47552631
if we don't talk about chickin then how we remove chickin?

>>47552654
By not talking about it, it has been removed from conversation.
By not complaining about it, it loses troll value.

Is the Nurgle Start Collecting pack a good place to start? They look the coolest of all the start collecting boxes.

>>47552688
Yes.
Its only flaw is it's lack of 40k formation

>>47552687
remove from conversation is not goal.
remove from op picture we want.

chickin stayed for too long it will stay longer if not talk about it. it was removed when talked about it. Now it is back and this broke the deal.

so chickin war starts again.

>>47552827
Remove slavshit.

>>47551466
I could imagine a weirdboy convincing a Warboss that apotheosis would make him killier

>>47552452
We're not retarded like you Carnac. We knew it wouldn't happen. You were the one who forced this meme as you're the one who autistically buys every single GW/BL release. You bought the short story and told everybody. You do it with your headcanon as well.

>>47552500
>spaghetti with autism speaks
how can spaghetti have autism?

>>47552982
>We knew it wouldn't happen.

Don't make me go to the archive and dig up the posts. I am not petty enough to do it. There are probably some of your posts in there too. You wanted Canis to die. Admit it. You are racist against Space Wolves. Don't you dare lie, I can sniff it on you, whelp.

>Look up the news
>No 40K releases is announced
>finished all the 40K content I have

Looking for my 40K fix but GW isn't obliging. I feel that 40K is getting ignored for the sake of AoS.

>>47553081
look up Ian Wyatt on youtube and then kitbash some ork vehicles

>>47553025
I actually said why would they kill a well liked hero who has a model, when GW has been killing off less liked heroes and modeless heroes ever since Chapter House?

I don't want any to die. I don't even want modeless ones to die. But GW is GW.

You'll know this as you're autistic, what book has the scene where the Azrael gets told that Logan is dead? Is it the first short story?

See, that bit says he's dead, but the Chapter Master of a founding legion won't be dead. Ignore the fact he got a new model and shit.

Anybody who thought he was dead was doing it to piss you off.

>>47553081
Well they are really trying to push AoS now with coming "tournament rules".

If you want 40k fix try downloading IA: Doom of Mymaera v2 and figuring out good Corsair list. It can be done, the corsairs have so many toys to get their jobs done.

>>47552357
Thanks man for the advice, I'd rather learn the hard way and have some cool looking units while I'm at it.

>>47553144
>>47553081
seriously it is unreal how good this guy is, and some of the stuff he says is pretty funny too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be5EULnGSsU
>They loot these vehicles from a battlefield after a battle... I'm assuming they do... I'm assuming they don't break into Space Marine HQ and nick 'em.

>>47553081
Wow! They're supporting their new product? Those fucking idiots! Should have not supported it at all so I can shitpost more about it failing!

The next releases for 40k are:

Codex: Genestealers
Codex: Deathwatch
Thousand Sons Rubric Marines
Warzone: Fenris Part 2 (linked with 1k Sons)
Chaos Space Marine revamp (pictures of new models have been seen).

So quit fucking whining.

>>47553182
Rightly so. AoS with tournament rules could be neat as fuck. But 40k is their flagship thing and are getting some serious love.

FW has done 13 Imperial Armours, some in several editions, with Imperial Armour 14 out this year as well. Warhammer Fantasy got 2 (TWO) books. Monstrous Arcanum Volume 1 and Tarmurkhan. They had a 3rd, Battle for Blackfire Pass, but they scraped it when Monstrous Arcanum and WHFB didn't do very well.

40k is heavily supported, way more than WHFB was. AoS will eventually die or level out.

>>47553269
>Chaos Space Marine revamp (pictures of new models have been seen).
I won't believe this until I see it

>>47553081
GW used to release every month. It's now every week and people are STILL thirsty for new stuff. It blows my mind. People crave new stuff, then buy from Chinese recasters. Anyway, there is 40k stuff this week, with the Deathstorm Nid models being release. Next week is likely Codex: Genestealers or the Wood Elves (or whatever) for AoS. Either way, I read CSM major update (see; >>47551380 >>47551248)

>>47553304
Well, as I said, apparently models have been seen, but were deleted quick smart. I can't find them in the archive, but I believe deleted files disappear. If they don't, then it never happened, but I don't know.

The CSM revamp was rumoured for this year. With Warzone: Fenris Part 2 happening 99% chance this year, it's likely Thousand Sons will be involved. Which is where the supposed new models come in.

Unless that anon comes back with the pictures or somebody else leaks them, we're fucked, but don't give up hope, anon. My hope is SoB vs CSM Warzone campaign. Maybe with Catachan as well with Marbo appearing.

>>47553173
Dude, you weren't even in the threads I was talking about. The discussion in those threads was about Canis who in the second short story had violent encounter with a Herald of Khorne and his scene ended with the Herald's sword coming down for the killing blow. It was revealed in the sequential short story that he was saved by the Iron Hands.

Everyone knows the Logan won't die because he is present on Cadia in 999 41K with Ragnar and Ulrik. Canis, Redmaw, Krom have no fluff that confirms that they survived the "Curse of the Wulfen" event (as far as I know) so there is a chance that some of them won't make it.

>>47553332
I've been and believing and hoping for new CSM models for years. I'll believe when I see the sprues.

>>47553269
>New models have been seen
Salsa or forever hold your peace.

Also do people realize the Taros Campaign gives you access to more Kroot? Greater Knarlocs, Knarloc riders and Krootox riders? Problem is they're all fast attack..

>>47553269
>They're supporting their new product?

Why support a failing product though? We are their bread and butter.

>>47553381
You meant salt and siracha.

>>47553269
>Codex: Genestealers

Boring.

>Codex: Deathwatch

Oh great more space marines like we needed more

>Warzone: Fenris Part 2 (linked with 1k Sons)

Yiff Yiff Yiff

>Chaos Space Marine revamp (pictures of new models have been seen).

Will their whining stop now?

Shitty releases desu.

>>47553359
I have the same reaction to SoB, anon. Also, I'd like some female Imperial Guard sprues. I want to make a medical heal slut.

>>47553363
I did, but FW removed those models due to them being old and busted. Plus, who gives a fuck about them? Suits or bust is their moto.

>>47553381
I'm speculating, because while WHFB was 'attractive' to new players, it had a steep learning curve (relative to 40k), require much more money investment (40k army can be as little as 40 models, WHFB armies can be hundreds) and was legally fucked (you can't copyright the word 'Empire' or 'Orcs'). So, they rebooted it, allowing for ease of entry and make it legally sound(er).

It is an introduction game. The tournament rules, I suspect, are for grognards. If it fails, it fails, at least GW tried. I'm happy to buy AoS stuff for the models as I like Lizardmen and modelling anyway. If I ever get a chance to play AoS, I'll do so, but my guess is i won't.

40k is hugely popular and I guss WHFB was just a leaking product which didn't bring back what it cost (lots of reasons why), but now can be played with 1 model or 100. Allowing people to get into the hobby and, more importantly, moving onto 40k and spending money.

>>47553414
What do YOU want then, anon? Tau? Then Imperial Armour 14 is for you. Ad Mech? Same applies. Imperial Guard? I believe the same as the other two.

So, let me guess, you're now either Eldar, Dark Eldar, Ork or Nids?

>>47553414
>Codex Genestalers

Why even? With what purpose?

>>47553438
>I want to make a medical heal slut.

Sisters Hospitaller a best

>>47553438
guard just need new sprues period. Their sprues are from 2002

>>47553438
>What do YOU want then, anon?

Eldar, Necrons, Orks, SoBs.
Armies that are fun and not space marines.

>>47553459
>Necron
>Fun

>>47553466
Not him but Necrons are fun, though they need a bit of a nerf and bringing back the Crypteks of 6th.

>Need Necron revamp from 5th->6th
>Let's make all these cool disciplines for Crypteks each with their signature weapon and wargear choices! Tons of personality and synergy!
>7th comes
>Too much personality, make them generic +1 RP.

I'll never forgive them for it.

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>>47553447
Yup. If I was autistic enough, I'd make a suitably lewd tape and play it whenever I roll a FnP with my medic.

>>47553452
They're OK, but I agree. Give me 2 female torso options, like they did for Dark Elves, I'll be happy. I think they also did for Dark Eldar. Otherwise I have to buy units from 3rd party proxy groups.

>>47553459
Eldar just got IA11 update, which gave more units and Corsair special rules. Necrons and Orks are 'behind', I agree, but the chances are they'll be next year. As for SoB? So irrelevant it doesn't matter. GW is happy to keep mentioning them to renew the IP license and have them die at regular interviews (Warzone Fenris, for example) to remind us they still exist. Which is cruel, as it shows us they know they exist, but don't do anything with them.

I remember a tripfag said that plastic sisters were 100% this year. He's not returned since. What's the guesses that they'll come out this year? Would you bet money on it?

>>47553516
Fuck that.
I want "5 unit types and be glad for it" crons.

>>47553527
>I remember a tripfag said that plastic sisters were 100% this year. He's not returned since. What's the guesses that they'll come out this year? Would you bet money on it
no.
We've had sisters are 100% this year rumours every year for the last decade or so.

I wouldn't put any stock in sisters rumours unless they come with leaked pics of models or rules.

>>47553516
The problem with tables like that is, there is always a superior selection choice. Back in the old days of WHFB, Slann could choose disciplines. In 7th, you could choose several. One made you a Lore Master, so you knew every single spell of a specific lore. That meant you took Lore of Life and gave the Slann and his unit of 20 Temple Guard +4T, 4+ Regeneration and so on. Making them T8 and very hard to kill. Plus other fun stuff like becoming Ethereal (immune to all non-magical attacks).

So, yeah, it sucks, but you end up going "if I take this, I'm gimping myself" and if you don't and you go "oh I took Crazy Crazy Mind trait because in M38.384 he went mad when his..." and your opponent tells you to shut the fuck up he doesn't give a shit about your autism special snowflake.

/tg/ itself shits on people who come up with background for their HQ's as it is.

Would you like the return/introduction of special rules (think chapter tactics )for Imperial Regiments,Warbands, Klans, Septs, Craftworlds and so on?

>>47553566
This is what I said. I got attacked by couple of people and the tripfag said

>b-b-but I'm reliable! I've never been wrong! Check the archive!

Which is about as stupid as going

>I've never killed anybody in my life, so I totally won't do it in the future!

I wish I could remember his name so I could find the archive post. I literally said SoB has been "totally this year 100% for plastics" for a decade, alongside "GW is totally dying this year for realsies!".

>>47553573

literally formation special rules

>>47553527
Doubtful that plastic sisters are happening, though there are at least some projects going on that should offer some resin alternatives.

>>47553573
>Regiments

Not sure on the differences, so I can't say

>Warbands

Yes, chapter tactic equivilents for legions fits well here

>Klans

Ork Klans are usually more defined by unit composition, so I think formation special rules are the better fit here

>Septs

Septs aren't overly distinct as is, so I'd prefer getting more actual fluff on them before trying to make specific rules for them all.

>Craftworlds

I think the recent Imperial Armor edition for Eldar did this nicely with the Pale Courts battlehost. You get a core formation that consists of some beneficial rules based on what units you decide on for your Craftworld theme. Again, similar to Orks in that they're more defined by units rather than the specific craftworld. Ideally, Orks would get something similar.

>>47553586
I've always said, a neat idea, if i was GW, would be a board game like Execution Force/Deathwatch Ignition/BaC.

Have it SoB vs Chaos.

x1 Canoness (or Palatine)
x10 Battle Sisters
x5 Seraphim
x5 Dominators
x5 Retributors
x5 Repentia

and then an army of like

x1 Daemon Prince
x5 Bloodletters
x5 Plague Bearers
x5 Flamers
x5 Daemonettes
x10 CSM

>>47553615
Make the Chaos army Word Bearers for battle of the bible thumpers and that'd be a fun set.

>>47553615
I feel like that's a bit too many different models for a boardgame, though I do like the idea of them bringing back plastic sisters that way.

Better yet, Sisters of Battle vs. Eldar. Plastic Sisters and Plastic Aspect warriors.

>>47553585
So we remove all chapter tactics?

I'd like to see an inquisition vs dark angels set

or just more inquisition stuff in general

>>47553585
nah that's not the right way to it.
Having say catachans be distinct too only a formation would suck. Every catachan army would be exactly the same then.

>>47553611
>>Septs
>Septs aren't overly distinct as is, so I'd prefer getting more actual fluff on them before trying to make specific rules for them all.

Sure they are. T'au is baseline, Vior'la is warlike, N'Dros is sneaky, Kel'shan has a mad-scientist/rogue earthcaste scientist that is making experimental weapons like Hazard suits, Riptide variants, Supremacy suits, and so on.

If Tau were given the amount of writefaggotry GW gave space marines, septs would be about as different as salamanders or raven guard.

>>47553666
Why do they hate each other?

>>47553642
I want a Sisters of Battle vs Skaven boardgame.

>>47553774
Seeing as one of those is actually FW-variant it would be awesome if FW made those variant lists just like Eldar Pale Courts.

>>47553787
the dark angels are trying to be all secretive and enigmatic like brooding teenagers, and the inquisition wants to know why all the inquisitors they send to talk to the dark angels keep going missing

plus there is the business with the fallen that the Dark Angels really would prefer the inquisition didn't know about

>>47553800
Sister of Battle vs Brettonia - the battle of extinction!

>>47553774
I suppose what I meant more is that they each typically have a single-line blurb saying they're angry or sneaky, which isn't much to go off of.

Giving them more detail would help, but it still wouldn't quite be to marine-level differences, as Tau tactics are still a bit more adaptive to the situation. Even the book calls out that the various colors of septs represented are typically from a specific battle where it was effective camo.

That said, having a blurb for each on popular units would help. Stuff like 'Vior'la typically prefers Carbine and Breachers for its fire warrior squads' or 'This sept excels in the production of railgun technology, and thus those weapons are more common on their pathfinders and heavy platforms'.

As it stands they don't really have enough to go on.

>>47553825
They would be actual bros

>>47551171
I my god... i hated Russia. But now i love it. Putin must be a great leader if his people are making something like this.

>>47553898
Bros forced to fight each other for their survival!

>>47553823
That's some spicy heresy right there. I'd like to see a campaign of that made

>>47551171
stop posting these in every thread please

>>47551129
Just search for grishnak.

Google tries to correct it to grishnakh, don't let it.

Pay attention when google says "did you mean: xxxx"

>>47551129
>Google-Fu
>doesn't notice that Google.is searching
Your google-fu is pig dung.

>>47553568
Sad but true, I just loved the flavour it added.. This whole "The only choice you ever need is the best choice available" mindset is pure undiluted cancer.

You might as well not have a codex, just a short list of the unit, its statline and its weapons. A tabletop game with no customization allowed, because its already done for you, like when WoW went from talent trees and uniqueness to homogenized everything.

Cancer.

>>47553923
Nah its good they are getting attention since that will eventually turn into greater and better production of them.

just passing through, have a video of the Black Sword of the Emperor's Champion https://youtu.be/Uv2wv1eODUs

>>47554068
Damn thats cool.

>>47553923
Meh, someone asked.

>>47553923
>>47554127
Also, filename is for you.

>>47554068
2 seconds in and I knew it was michaelchtulhu

>>47551255
thats alot of broadsides, but what are you going to do in terms of getting objectives

consider removing the skyray and 1 or 2 broadsides, use the spare points to have a full carbine pathfinder team with darkstrider, pulse accelerator and grav inhib drone

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>>47553825
>he doesn't know

>>47553963
>>47553975
As I said, I have the site, but the Google didn't turn up anything with just that. Furthermore, 4chan thinks the link is spam, which it is.

>>47551501
>The only way vespid will be good
Honestly, Vespids are already good, but drop their points by about 3 or so, and they will be fine.

Or give them furious charge. They are built to smash into shooting units, but their statline means they wont ever dent them. Upping their strength by 1, just on the charge, would go a long way.

>>47554212
So how is life in Sigmaron? Is it some kind of starship full of democracy, good intentions and no war amongst people?

>>47554254
I'd rather they get Rending. Puts them more solidly into an anti-MEQ role.

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>>47554255
fascist militaristic utopia under the God King.

>>47551493
>>47551656
It's in the 3e codex. May also have been elsewhere but isn't in the 2e or 4e codexes.

>>47554212
I'd care a lot more about Age of Sigmar's fluff if any location actually mattered instead of just being a bunch of infinite realms of shifting landscapes

>>47554266
Rending melee attacks would be nice. Pointless on the gun, you don't need vespids to be good at dealing with 2+ saves.

I just look at them, and get the feeling that I should be charging with them. Yet aside from charging guardsmen and a few select Eldar units, I can't think of any target that thry are worth charging into.

I6 does help, though. I have managed to break a CSM squad with them before, and their Initiative 4 meant they were piss easy to run down. HoW and a bunch of attacks that got lucky, and his MoT didn't do shit.

>>47554284
Doesn't sound like it honestly. It seems pretty swell, Sigmar just has that "You have these duties but if you do something whacked out like become corrupt then you'll remember what it feels like to be a nail". Corrupt like corrupt politicians not CHAOS.

>>47554318
I wasn't talking about Rending for the gun, just melee. AP 3 is already solid enough and I don't even think having Rending confers it to ranged weapons.

Rending on melee attacks fits with what they have. Like you said, Initiative 6 is good for CC, and they've also got decent Weapon Skill. Along with Hit & Run, Fleet, and being Jump infantry, they feel a lot like they want to be in assault, but don't do very well in there.

Rending gives a nice boost that would let them fire a bunch of AP 3 shots into a Marine squad, charge in, deal more damage, and either finish them or Hit & Run out next turn.

Still probably not as points-efficient as a Plasma Crisis team, but at least they'd have a purpose.

Will there ever be a good DoW game again? Just played through Dark Crusade and Soulstorm campaigns. Didn't care for DoW2. Is the fantasy total warhammer any good tactically?

Are Tau still OP on the tabletop?

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>>47553825
Are sister next on the chopping block?

>>47554349
>Will there ever be a good DoW game again?

There's a new one announced, and supposedly it's going back to base-building like the first one. Make of that what you will.

>Are Tau still OP on the tabletop?

They're top tier. Eldar have surpassed them in overall power and Marines have caught up to them. Still very strong though.

>>47554168
Possible. I had hoped to table the majority of the enemy and then grab the objectives with my FW.

Then again, if I wanted to table my enemy, I could just take

HQ: Fireblade (60)
Troops: x5 Fire Warriors and DS8 Tactical Support Turret (55)
Troops: x5 Fire Warriors (45)
Elite: x1 Riptide with Ion Accelerator with Stim-Inject and Velocity Tracker (240)
Lord of War: KX139 Supremacy Armour (600)

Total: 1000

Yes. I know it's OP, cheesey and unfair, but that's probably what a 'tabler' list would be like at 1,000.

So, would you recommend dropping the Sky Ray or Broadsides the most? I need 3 units of Broadsides for the special rule. Sky Ray would give me 115 more points. Allowing me another two x5 man squad Fire Warriors. With 25 points spare. I could then put Advanced Targeting Systems on all my Broadsides for BS5 Twin-Linked Ignores Covers Precision Shots. It'd also give me a few points left over, but nothing special. Might possibly get another system in there.

Or I could make one of the Broadsides capable of AA with Velocity Tracker and Early Warning Override. On either of the Broadside variants should be enough to take down one flyer?

>>47554302
I'd agree with this if I didn't know that Chaos winning WHFB was preordained from like 3rd edition. 1st and 2nd edition WHFB barely had any fluff. WHFB was always about holding back the darkness and Storm of Chaos was the "let's end it" moment and the public just went "fuck it, Chaos deserve to lose" so they lost in the public vote. Something GW never repeated. I'm going to keep my eye on it simply cause the models so far for it have been neat. The Orc Wyvern is great and the Boar Rider makes me want Cyboars back for Orks. As for the fluff, I'm sure it'll progress at some point to make you care. It's hard to make you care about something only 10 months old.

>>47554342
if they upped the points to 20ppm and let them choose between jump infantry rules once per turn and jet infantry rules they would be worth

right now you run a huge risk by exposing yourself to a unit and if you roll badly you are risking so many points in such a weak unit and dont have much chance of getting them out

>>47554349
Total warhammer is pretty good tactically but unbalanced as hell and easily broken making it just like the board game in every respect.

>>47554361
See >>47554212 Bretonnia lives on in AoS and will likely get a codex/update in the near future. Something SoB are unlikely ever to get. So that picture should be reserved. Since Sigmarines =! Bretonnian Knights.

>>47554369
you have plenty of pathfinders for markerlights, so drop the skyray and maybe one MODEL of broadsides (you only need 3 units, not 3 models in each unit), then just slap seeker missiles on your broadsides and use the rest for more infantry

Don't really need skyfire if you have that many seeker missiles being fired at the flyers

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>>47554319
Shut up and praise Sigmar more, citizen.

>>47554369
Yeah, that's fair. Some of the models are pretty neat and have gotten my attention, though I suppose you're right in that it'll take time for the setting to get any sort of real depth to it

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>>47554365
I TOO LOOK FORWARD TO A GRIMDARK, REALISTICALLY GRITTY AND GOOD GRAPHIC DAWN OF WAR.

NO MONKEY PAW! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

>>47554375
The problem with Total War is corruption. It's the most stupid thing ever. "Oh go fight in this quest battle for your armour Thorgrim, it just so happens that you walk slow as fuck due to being a dwarf even with +10% bonus AND on March stance and that means 6 turns in 50%+ Chaos/Vampire so enjoy that 10% attrition loss a turn while Archaon and Co are marching around".

It is mega fun though. Demigryph Knights look awesome and are OP as fuck. The main gripe? Every hero has their main weapon on their model, but don't use it because of 'honour' or some shit in the quests to unlock it... But they stil lhave it in battle. Give them a fucking alt model. I also want each hero to change when I equip different shit to it.

>>47554380
Nope, Brets are dead and gone, that's just an excuse to use their models in Sigmar.

Latest fluff is other than a faction that found it's way to Sigmar most of Brettonia got taken by Nagash and turned in to ghouls. In flesh eater courts you have ghouls pretending to be Arthurian knights as the true descendants to Brettonia which would be pretty cool if it wasn't AoS shit.

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>>47554394
No refuges please. Make Azyr great again.

>>47554369
I would personally cut out the Sky Ray and switch one of the broadside teams over to anti-air, while also cutting a suit from that squad.

Two skyfire missile suits would be plenty of anti-air, and that should free up a good amount of points for other stuff.

Some more mobile units wouldn't go amiss, particularly things with anti-tank firepower. Your Pathfinders will be rather vulnerable without other targets to distract from them, so consider some other close range units to help guard them.

>>47554394
Again, it REALLY doesn't sound bad. Sigmar's just fucking making sure not even a single ATOM of chaos taint remains because everybody knows you can't have any half-measures when you deal with Chaos

>>47554404
I hate to tell you this anon, but, you know you can teleport to quests?

If you agent can see the quest marker you can just pay 5000 dosh to teleport your army there and back again after.

>>47554398
The main reason I don't want to get into it? Is the poster above you. I keep hoping he'll kill himself, but he won't. The Orc models are neat and make me want to kitbash some Orks, but I've promised I'd finish my other armies first. Also, the Orc Wyvern, I was wondering, proxy as a Deff Dread for Snakebitez?

>>47554408
Eh, we'll see anon. You can't argue that Brets were any more alive in WHFB than they are in AoS. As for my personal opinion, I do not mind that much. I'm just happy fantasy is getting attention again as nobody played the damn thing in my area. Booking WHFB tables on Thursdays only was a pain.

>>47554408
>Latest fluff is other than a faction that found it's way to Sigmar most of Brettonia got taken by Nagash and turned in to ghouls.

Wrong.

The Ghouls are degenerate survivors of the kingdoms of the mortals realms that were cutbstomped by Chaos. These survivors that did not bow down to Chaos, fled to the cursed wastelands and eventually degenerated into Ghouls. The Abhorrant Ghoul Kings found these Ghouls and infected them with their madness. Thus were created the Ghoul Kingdoms and their courts.

What's wrong with you anon? Only cretins lie like that.

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>>47554430
Wow. That's neat anon. Thanks. Still, corruption is a bitch, especially when you have to fight X or Y in heavy areas.

Also, the upkeep in the game is stupidly high. I did one game with it and then modded it out. I want to fight, not spend (albeit, quicker than Attila/Rome) turns trying to gather dosh to build X so I can get Y.

Also, the game is so fucking sexy. The detail gone into each area is great. The Dwarf Holds are so good in 'the flesh'.

>>47554431
>Also, the Orc Wyvern, I was wondering, proxy as a Deff Dread for Snakebitez?

I've looked into this thing specifically for conversions. It's way too big for a Deff Dread. The thing comes with a base that's about the size of one on an Imperial Knight.

The thing is better suited to being a Battlewagon or the like instead of a Dread. I would suggest a superheavy, but it's not tall enough for that.

>>47554365
>Marines have caught up to them
They definitely surpassed them. I never have problems with Tau anymore, not after all our bullshit updates and additional content.

>>47554452
>Battlewagon

That's a great idea. If I could convert some Orks to hold onto the side of it, that'd be neat as fuck. Shame Orks don't have any flying transports to the best of my knowledge.

I'm hoping for more sexy Lizardmen for the, my personal belief, inevitable Exodite Eldar release. It's going to happen, just depends on when. While I'm sad WHFB has gone, I think it was inevitable, but at least I can enjoy the new models. I heard Wood Elves (or the Treelord + Dryad things) are out next, so that might be some proxy stuff for Exodite Eldar as well.

>>47554477
>Shame Orks don't have any flying transports to the best of my knowledge.

I think they have a helicopter from Forgeworld. Not sure if the rules are still legal.

I'm excited for Wood Elves, particularly that giant beetle.

So I just started playing orks and as i was building my army i started watching some battle reports and they had nobz with both powerclaw and kombi-scorcha. Although the codex doesnt say two handed for either I has assumed that the scorcha was two handed.

>>47554497
Have you considered not playing such a shit race?

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>>47554497
>playing orks

>>47554497
Two-handed just means you can't get extra attacks in melee. You can still carry a giant sword and a giant gun at the same time or whatever

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