Age of Sigmar General

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>>47468219

>>47506866
I really like nagashes model but really wish this game didn't revolve around power houses so much.

>>47506866
>>47505835
>complains about models coming off the bases
>realize he's used super glue instead of plastic cement

Hahaha, what an asshole.

>>47506165
>>47505937
>>Asur, Asrai, Druchii

It does seems strange they abandoned those great names for these shitty new ones.

why do orcs have some of the best shields in the game? the way rules don't seem to represent the fluff at all is really annoying

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>>47506899
I'm willing to make a few of these based off the info leaked here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dkW9LGPn62Tvecl-ulz2U5aqSvyu-7XtGe9WWhNBIV0/edit#gid=0

The only thing is what kind of font do these cards use? Inb4 Comic Sans

>>47507196
Because the Gore Gruntaz shit out metal and pigs > blacksmiths

>>47506866
Something about skellytons kicking demon ass just makes my dick hard.

>>47507361
Does this document include ALL of them? Including the limited edition ones released with preorders of the game?

is there a pdf of Silver Tower rules? wanna try it out before buying

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>>47507604
As far as i know the only limited edition card was the Empire Battlemage and he's on the document

>>47507644
I haven't seen one yet.

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Anyone have a bigger template that i could use? These are a bit one the small side

New to AoS, used to play warhammer fantasy waay back in the day. I saw a link in the last thread saying that a points system was going to come out for this, but I didn't see any dates or guesses at dates. Is there any inclination as to when it might come out?

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13th for the greatest clan

I've owned a khorne starter set and some extra reavers for about a year now, actually playing my first game this Saturday because my old hobby shops community fuckjng died when sigmar dropped.

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>>47508087
Clan Pestilens smells like poop-shit!

>>47508061
Before summer campaign, think it will be another gw all hands on deck day.. Employees usually leaks those in advance.

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>>47508116
How dare you mock glorious Clans Pestilens

May your rathood shrivel and rot, fool-thing!

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I guess no one else is really interested in these I'll stop spamming them

>>47508283
I actually am. I have been saving them. If I provided a piece of art, could you put it in the portrait? I want a custom one for my own cogsmith character.

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>>47508323
Sure thing! Honestly I'd rather have art for the cards than mini pictures

>>47508283
I pref these since Google doc loads funny

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>>47508365
My cogsmith uses an irondrake head, so can you get the head and some of the shoulders in? Leave out the drakegun.

>>47508283
>I guess no one else is really interested in these
Not so anon, I've been saving them this whole time. Thanks for making these by the way.

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>>47508412
I'll do my best
>>47508389
Me too, plus you can print them out for use at the table!

>>47508113
Some rumours say 3 weeks. It's almost certainly June/july

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>>47508412
How does this look so far?
>>47508435
No prob, I randomly have the day off so this is a nice distraction from otherwise just sitting around the house and drinking beer unproductively

>>47508711
Can you do the Shadowblade one (assassin)?

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>>47508711
Absofuckinglutely perfect. Can I beg you for one more? This is for my runelord, get some of her cleavage. I have a reaper model that matches the art pretty decent, except the gear difference.

>>47506986

The Dark Elves have been called Druchii since the first Malus Darkblade comics nearly two decades ago, probably before.

Does anyone know how I got it into my head that Life was one of the Grand Alliances? I'm inclined to blame 1d4chan but maybe I just dreamt it up.

>>47508849
It would be a reasonable assumption as Order and Chaos are opposites. The opposite of Death is Life etc.

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>>47508752
Hopefully the art isn't too bad I grabbed it off google!
>>47508781
Cool i'm glad you like it, sorry about some of the sloppy borders btw, female dorf? where's he beard!?

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>>47508974
No beard bro. Stereotypical ass!

Jk, this is the mini for her. I like art to be in portraits rather than mini pictures.

>>47508930
That must be it. I just had it as an assumption for so long and then noticed it wasn't the case and no one else seemed to know where I might have picked it up from.

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>>47509058
I can dig the stones on her!

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How's my Skullgrinder? Worthy of Khorne's gaze?

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>>47509131
Thanks man! Here is the cogsmith also, Drake Dunsson. I'm making the cards right now using your templates. Thanks again for these!

>>47509167
Never been a fan of blood splatters, but, man, that flame is gorgeous.

>>47509167
Looks good senpai but
That guy is a blacksmith but I see no hammer on him.

>>47509256
I wanted to take a different approach to a Khorne colour scheme than taking a shade of red for the armour. Blood is a way I take it back in, but I can understand not being a fan.

>>47509295
The hammer hangs on his left leg. Bottom right you can spot it.

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>>47509167
Looks ace to me! I wish i could paint 1/2 as good as you haha
>>47509255
Cool beans! So i don't know anything about how Age works since me and my friends still play fantasy, can you make custom characters?

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>>47509359
There are no rules for it, no. But people do it anyway because the game invites more narrative character creation. So it's pretty freeform since there are no points.

My method is I take another warscroll as base, and replace some of their abilities with different ones.

Like with he r>>47509058, I took the runelord and replaced the runestaff attack with the shield from the Belegar Ironhammer legacy warscroll.

With him >>47509058, he's basically just the cogsmith warscroll, and I replaced his base armour (5+ save) with the forge-proven gromril armour from the irondrakes.

This is my general, Lord Dunhill. With him I just took a dwarf lord on shieldbearers with shield and runeweapon, and I changed his rune weapon with a great run hammer and replaced the shieldbearers hammer attacks with the steam-powered gauntlet attack from the Grimm Burloksson legacy warscroll.

remove sigmarines

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>>47509359
There aren't any rules, but most people are down for making your own characters. Just base them roughly on already existing characters and talk to your opponent about them.
Here are a couple of mine. These are made for a narrative 'Seven Samurai'-style campaign that will soon start at the flgs.
Incidentally, I still need to come up with one character for this thing. Any concepts or ideas?

>>47509660
Remove sigmarines heads and swap them for other heads, to make sigmarines look ten times better

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Here they are made up! Thanks again anon for putting in the picture for me. I am so excited to play with these. I've been thinking of doing special battleplans for Dunhill to send his 2 kids on quests for the clan. Silver Tower seems to be a good way to do it.

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>>47509717
You know i have some spare Brettonian heads i was thinking about putting on my Questor since i'm not too crazy about the porcelain mask look on that bulky of armor
>>47509758
Anytime! Looks good btw what font face is that i may have to make some of my own guys for fun

>>47509846
I don't have the same font GW uses, but I found just Times New Roman looked good enough.

>>47509846
Not him, but Athelas works really well.

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>>47509717
Just did a quick dry fit i think i'm going to go for it plus the helm heraldry seems in character for someone named Questor
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>>47509884
I'll try these out while i'm bored at work tomorrow

>>47510101
I ordered my knight-questor mini from ebay and when it gets here I am doing another irondrake headswap and replacing the sword with a big axe from the longbeards kit so it fits with the rest of my Forgesworn Eternals.

What books should I buy in order to get into the fluff and lore? The models look pretty bad ass and awesome than the 40k stuff. I really wanna start playing this.

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Going to take a break to make some lunch and finish up my Tzaangors, maybe work on that Questor headswap I'm glad you guys liked the cards

>>47510281
Good job, anon. Godspeed.

>>47510194
campaign books are the best start, keep in mind that the fluff tends to be a bit too much on the "vague"side and too fucking cenetered on the sigmarines.
All Aos is basically a "do whatever you want with your Dudes, you pieces of shit" now, while sigmarines keep beating things and everyone else is sucking archaons dick.

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>>47510281
I lied i took the 3 seconds to finish this

How viable is a pure Deathrattle army? I got a bunch of them from tk and vc armies and I wanna go with flesh eaters, so they kinda get left on their own. How about a black axe general with a big blob of archers, a couple of solid spear blocks with hand weapon support, necros and liches for magic and reanimation, and maybe some chariots/necro knights and a necrotect? I kinda wanna give them an ancient tribe/celt feel more than tk or carstein.

summer campaign starts on the 14.7. ends on the 14.8. the results of the campaign will determine how the story progresses (similar to the black crusade) however this time not only battles are accounted for it, there is also modelling and painting.

23.7 is the release date for the generals handbook, which contains the point costs aswell as scenarios costs 20€ and almost 1000 pages. the point costs for each unit will be updated on the datasheets that are linked to the product.

age of sigmar total war when

>>47510938
Sounds really cool, can't wait for the campaign. A single month seems a tad short, but, hey, whatever.
>1000 pages
That seems a little ...much?

>>47510967
I would be all for this. Although i don't think Total War would translate well with AoS.

Perhaps something more akin to dawn of war.

>>47510974
Yeah not sure I believe the 1000 pages either.

>>47510856
Pretty viable, assuming you do bring necromancers and liche-priests, neither of which are deathrattles. You get a lot of units to gum up your opponent for days, some decent (though not exceptional) hitting power and nice synergies.

>>47510967
Supposedly Creative Assembly said something to the effect of being interested in an AoS version, back when AoS was released, but I don't know if that was true, since I've not heard anything since.

>>47510967
they are doing 3 titles for warhammer. i hope it runs like this:
1: the current one
2: end times, nagash etc coming
3: age of sigmar timeline

>>47510938
Raziel, I know you're usually good for it, but can you comment on that 1k pages thing? That seems way too much...

Are Silver Tower miniatures appearing in any based chinaman catalog? I don't seem to find them in the ones I know how to find.

>>47511067
I think it's more of an inevitability if anything. With how much of a slut GW has been with their licenses for video games lately.

>>47511088
tought so too, but it has devunked as probably expansions for lustria and TK.
>>47510991
>g more akin to dawn of war.
i think an adventure rpg would be great, something visually like Darksider but on a game that does not suck.

>>47511117
Spectacle fighter a la Bayonetta would be the obvious choice for me, but a Darksouls-esque Silver Tower game would be neat, too.

The guy who wanted my chaos never got back to me but I have ordered the starter anyway ;_;

>>47511169
well, bayonetta is literally too over-the-top.
Darksiders 2 aka not-prince-of-persia had aesthetics similar to aos, a good combat system and was pretty fun. With less platforming, more weapon variety and maybe a decent storyline(also: rpgesque lvups plz)an Aos game would have a lot of potential.
think about it: theres plenty of villains to craft, you have realmagets wich can be used to warp trough levels without feeling out of context, you have both enemy to be slayed musou-style in the hundreds(skavens)and elite enemies(chaos).
You have a Power metal aesthetic were you can craft ahetever kingdoms/realms/villages you want so you have TOTAL freedom on the plot...its prefect.

>>47510967
I don't think Total War is the right way to go for an AoS game. One of those Civ hex games is where I would start looking.

A co-op action adventure rpg game would be awesome.
Like silver tower, but with both outdoor and indoor levels.

>>47511190
eh, you will found someone. I found 2 guys to share my starter with in 10 days and I livve in a shithole-you can do it.
..
I kinda regret not keeping the bloobound tho, i bought the silver tower expansion and the slaughterpriest is SO amazing it makes me want to build a force around him.

>>47511330
I agree but the coding for chagen and combat could be a pain if a few bad decisions are made. A Souls like needs to know what character model the player will be using so letting anything non humanoid in (as a player) would be a pain. I assume it would be possible to make it work for all creatures in the setting and the idea of Nashy as a boss fight is amazing but I think strategy is the easiest way to go.

>>47511091
can also be less on the pages. the book is very thick however, bigger than the grand alliance chaos book.

>>47506866
Is there any order I should read the books in?

Interested in the forces of order and Orcs

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>>47512367

Hey folks.

So I posted a Seraphon list I was thinking about getting and got some feedback on it.

So I'm thinking about buying the following since I really like the models but I'll need to fill out a bit more of the list, so I could use some advice.

-Start Collecting Seraphon bundle
-Bastiladon
-Engine of the Gods
-Saurus Guard x30
-Slann Starmaster
-Skin Priest
-Saurus Sunblood
-Saurus Eternity Warden

So that will come to 107 wounds with our custom rules, but if I don't use the knights or the warriors that come in the collecting seraphon bundle I'll have 85 wounds.

So what would you recommend adding for another 15 wounds? I'm just not sure I'll be buying any of the fliers. They're too expensive for what they can do imo.

>>47512532
Thanks famalam

>>47512644
9x chamaleon skinks for hero sniping
absoluetely a standard bearer for +1 to cast rolls

>>47512644
how dare you ask what to use in your AoS army instead of just wielding models you want! you are a waac faggot and should be ashamed of yourself

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>>47509717
Stormcast elves are fun

>>47512906
Yes, 15 wounds and some tips. Complete waacfaggotry!

>>47513449
It's just bait anon. Ignore it.

>>47512644
Do you think a Stegadon would be too much? I think you might be able to use it for a little extra ranged firepower.

>>47508061
>tfw the points system is going to be hideously broken

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>>47513793

>>47508061
My local gw told me June 21

>>47512644
Ripperdactyls or terradons

Or chameleon skinks

>>47513793
Im not expecting perfection. Honestly they could just copy the scgt pool values and the game would be infinitely better

>>47513897
I love how ugly empire soldiers are depicted.

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>>47514243
>>47508061
Mine told me around July, so I guess its plausible.
>>47514345
sgct values were god-tier shit. really awful.
I just need them to assign a value from 1 to 10 to any warscroll and thats it. No points on wargears(it tends to be pretty balanced anyway), no points on additional unit members(aka you buy warscrolls as the minimum size and you can increase them by buying the unit again)and-for fucks sake-give high values to anything that has a range better than 18".

>>47514829
basically same as imperial guardsmen

>>47513308
Damn, that does look really cool anon. Do you have any more pics?
All these swapped heads makes me wonder if Vampire Blood Dragons would work as Stormcast as well.

Is these a good way to get a grasp of this new setting outside of reading the novels? It just feels hard to wrap my head without basic maps and stuff.

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>>47515460
I watched Arch Warhammer on youtube. He has a bunch of lore videos. He sounds pretty nerd but that just means he knows what hes talking about. He goes in depth on the societies and histories of each of the races and the major wars.

>>47515460
>without basic maps and stuff.
Bait?
And basically, the Old world blew up and in blowing up it created 8 magical realms for each wind of magic. Each one of them is basically endless so you can make whatever you want with them. Maps in the books all refers to specific parts of the realm in wich boo's campaign is taking place, but for your games and Your Dudes you can basically do what you want.

Best way is to read battletomes or the first campaign book-Age Of Sigmar. The rest mostly narrates the ongoing campaign of stormcasts vs Archaon.

>>47515525
Not bait, just trying to get a grasp on things. This is what I thought was the case, but wasn't sure about.

I guess what I'm still confused about is whether or not there are countries and kingdoms outside of Azyr? It seems like many of the realms are totally inhospitable.

>>47515853
>Not bait,
just asked because Aos maps hold a terrible reputation.
because they are, in most cases, fucking awful. theres always a lot of copy-paste, bad details and shit design.
>>47515853
>seems like many of the realms are totally inhospitable.
Kind of, and only in the most corrupted places. All realms bear resemblance to their wind of magic-fire has a lot of lava, volcanos and shit but also there are are a lot of places where settlements can be built.
Most of the realms tho have very little life on them because chaos smashed it during the centuries after the Age of Myth.
AOS doesn't begin immeadately after the explosion of the old world: after that other Ages have passed. civilization prospered again troughout all realms and old races and clans "evolved"and adapted to their new lands, then chaos came-again-and raped almost everyone. Sigmar said: fuck this and took as many people from ALL realms he could, then sealed the realmagates to azyr with a giant middle finger to anyone still in the lands and locked himself in Azyr masturbating to 40k fanfiction creating sigmarines.
So most of the people who remained alive are either cultists-because its the only reality they know, so they can be pretty average people but still tainted in some way or another-scattered tribe running from chaos followers or small realms and/or communities either hiding or trying to resists against chaos.
Its ALL pretty vague because GW in Aos is pushing Your Dudes really hard. they don't want a streamlined setting so anyone can have their piece of it and there's very little you can say "hurr thats not canon".

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>>47510101
Beat you to it anon.
I got my whole force done up like this.
Normal sigmarines are a shit.

>>47516005
just a change of head bvut it SO effective.
Sigmarines models are actually pretty good but the heads push too much the WE'RE LIKE SPACE MARINES and kinda ruins them. They look like really stupid as metallic armours.

I painted them like statues tho and looks pretty fine to me.

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>>47510765
Nice work fellow bretcast bro.

>>47516005
Got any of the winged guys with a head swap?

>>47516005
>>47510101
>>47510765
>>47513308
their body proportions are still kinda wonky, but the different helmets make them look SO much better

>>47515993
Okay, this is cool and it all makes sense to me now. Thank you. Probably just saved me hours of trying to read through multiple books.

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>>47516114
Gotchu covered familam.

In concern to the AoS rules. are wounds only allocated to models that are within melee weapon range from models attacking. Can wounds carry over to models not within range of melee weapons?

If the rules do work like that, do you think it would be better for wounds to only be allocated to models within the melee range of attacking models? making the pile in rule and weapons with longer melee rangers more significant?

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Painted mini if anyone is interested.
I've posted this before, no progress since then.

>>47516174
As i said, its all pretty vague.
The "core"of it can be found in the base starter book-literally described in a few lines.
The rest is from bits here and there: in the gates of azyr short story theres a tribes of almost-feral men living as prey , constantly hunted by the horrors inhabiting the brimstone peninsula, a centuries long khorne-plagued land;
theres a short story about a apparentely normal village whose inhabitants souls are contested by chaos gods; in the silver gods novella the chaos barbarian literally BFO the stormcasts because "fuck sigmar, all we knew after all these centuries were the fucking chaos gods, not a feeble fable of a hammered god">>47516259
>Can wounds carry over to models not within range of melee wea
yes. You need the unit to be in range of the weapon-like, even only one model-but then the woundsaffects the whole unit.
pile in and longer melee weapons are pretty fine like they are now. Its still REALLY hard to have big units to attack wholly with short ranged weapons, so long range weapons still have a HUGE advantage.
best option, as usual, is to mix and match different weapons like a good general, with a solid front line of double weapons and a huge bacline of spears.
>>47516262
and it looks amazing.

>>47516193
>>47516262
Ok I'm sold i'll have to get one of those winged guys for my WHQ nice paint job btw

>>47516353
I personally dig the knight-azyros.
great model, too bad his stats are pretty shit. he would have been great if he had the ability to deep strike in his warscroll, so he could use his lantern to guide the rest of the army. Instead, he is just a giant target who does pretty shit damage.

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Decided to crank this one out before bed I'll do some more tomorrow if you guys are still interested

>>47513576
I'm always down for more dino's, anon. Hell, might even add a Ark of Sotek Bastiladon as well.

Would have to free up 3 points though.

>>47516560
Please, and thank you

Would you guys play with someone who puts down 15 Stormfiends?

Just as a heads up I bought the chaos grand alliance book and am going to start filling in some of the blank chaos AoS tactics pages.

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>>47513897
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>>47517697

>>47517283
>$500 in aussie

No I wouldn't play 15 stormfiends, fuck that noise.

Yo what are the rules for making custom hero cards for silver tower? That seems awesome.

>>47517783
Play against

What are green skins like in age of sigmar? Do they even exist? I have no idea what the fuck is going on in this setting.

>>47518443
Greenskins exist, they just got some amazing new models. Basically they are incredibly happy because there's so much shit to fight.

Did a chunk of Khorne Daemons, feel free to criticize/edit/whatever.

>>47518754
I don't think that it's legal to use invisible models

>>47518783
Odd, the link still shows up red but when i click on it the page opens.

>>47518819
I don't even see an image link

>>47518825
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Age_of_Sigmar/Tactics/Edition_1.1/Daemons_of_Khorne
This should work. Suppose this is what I get for fucking around though

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>>47518754
>>47518819
They're looking pretty good so far anon

>>47507947
>>47508116
I just noticed that the skaven's head is literally the same base template with a recolour and different helmets.

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More of my headswapped Forgesworn Eternals.

This time it was not only heads, but shortening the wings, and bulking them up a bit, and replacing the hammers with axes.

>>47518938
Oh god lol

>>47518843
First two bloodletters share a name, anon. Otherwise good work.

>>47519255
fix'd

>>47519157
God-tier anon.

Would Duardin really be ones to fly though?

>>47521325
Pretty sure those aren't Duardin, but a batch of uplifted humans Grungi got from Sigmar.

>>47518992

Being fair, both of those are concept art from Warhammer Online showing ideas for Skaven skins.

>>47510967
Fucking never.

>>47518267
Play against either, that sounds horrid to face down.

Would literally rather face duo stone horns.

Tell me about your dudes in AoS and what they have done

>>47521896
>duo stone horns
How about stonehorn+thundertusk. :-)

Back to topic, 15 stormfiends? Hell no.

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>reading about Fyreslayer fluff
>they accept Chaos Dwarves into their ranks
>they use Ur-Gold to sate their lust for magic that normally wrecks dwarf bodies

Thats pretty cool actually

>>47521325
The Forgesworn Eternals are humans. Grungni took a portion of reforged heroes for himself, and their goal is to rescue and protect the duardin of the realms from chaos.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Forgesworn_Eternals

>>47521445
>>47524608
Cheers anons, didn't know that.

It's good to learn something new.

>>47524459
>Ur-Gold to sate their lust for magic

Too much ur-gold can drive fyreslayer mad, mad enough to kill his friends and family for more ur-gold.

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I'm waitin' for my man-thing

Twenty six warp-tokens in my hand.

Scurry through Blight-city, tunnel 125.
Feeling sick 'n dirty more than alive.

I'mmmm...waitin' for my man-thing


Hey Rat-boy, what you doin' up town?
Hey Rat-boy, you chasing our women around

Oh i beg-plead, it's not on my mind
I'm just seek-searchin' out a precious friend of mine

I'm waitin' for my man-thing

Here he comes, he's all armoured in black
Three-eyed King, with a sharp-spikey hat

He's never quick-fast he always late
First thing you learn, you always gotta wait

I'm waitin' for my man-thing

Got my Warpstone, rush up three flights of stairs
Every chaos-thing pinned you, but no-body cares

He's got the works, give you best-best taste
Then you gotta scurry-flee, you got no time to waste

I'm waitin' for my man-thing

Don't you dare screech, don't you go 'n squeak or shout
I'm feeling good-good, you know i'm gonna work it out

I'm feelin nice-nice, yesss feel so-so fine.
Until next day-light but that's some other-next time

I'mmmm waitin' for my man-thing

>>47525415
Archaon and Arch-warlock OTP

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>>47525474
>Tfw Archaon-senpai noticed you

>>47525558
thats amazing

>>47524459

I'm not sure, but it seems like they're toning down the original animosity and grudges of the setting. Looks like Tzeentchian sorcerers can buddy up with certain allies and even go traitor against their own ranks, Khorne champions can buddy up with Stormcast to cleave and smite a mutual foe, and alignments are a lot less uncompromising and stark in relation to each other.

>>47525919
I think it's so you can do Your Dudes more, and have a fluff justification.

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>>47526005
Its not just fluff, there are chaos dwarf models in the fyreslayers

Picture related

>>47526031
That's not a chaos dwarf.

Chaos dwarfs worship hashut and enslave other races. Fyreslayers don't enslave anyone and worship grimnir.

Sure that image may be a homage to chaos dwarfs, but a chaos dwarf he is not.

>>47526201
Chaos Dwarves as a faction serve Chaos.

Some Chaos Dwarves (the race, not the faction) are with the Fyreslayers. The Ur-Gold sates their magic addiction, although it replaces it with an Ur-Gold addiction instead.

The Auric Runemaster model is a chaos dwarf (race, not faction).

>>47526286
Ok, show me exactly where it says the Auric Runemaster is a chaos dwarf. Show me that.

Because as far as I read, the Auric Runemaster is a priest of grimnir. Chaos dwarfs have no grimnir worshipers.

>>47526005

I'd like beastmen to get creatures more like satyrs and centaurs, then mix them in with the Wood Elves faction and Sylvaneth for a fey/beast/forest faction.

>>47526286
Nice headcanon. Too bad it's not real canon.

>>47526321
Look at the beard, it is a dead giveaway

Chaos Dwarves (ie: the political faction that died with the old world) don't serve Grimnir, but Chaos Dwarves (the subspecies of dwarves that survived the old world dying) can and do worship Grimnir as part of the Fyreslayers.

This is not a complicated concept

>>47526365
It's from the Fyreslayer Battletome

>>47526329
That would honestly be really cool. Beastmen were always abortions anyway, and they haven't had any love. A Life grand alliance would be awesome. Wood Elves have always been murderous cunts, so Beastmen wouldn't even be too out of place.

>>47526406
>Look at the beard, it is a dead giveaway
Like I said, the model may be a homage to chaos dwars, but that doesnt mean anything. If a warrior priest of sigmar has a beard in the same way, does that mean he's a chaos dwarf too?

Again, show me where in the fyreslayers battletome that supports your theory. These are not chaos dwarfs. If anything they are neutral dwarfs.

>>47526460
Go fucking read the battletome, I'm not going to spoonfeed your stupid ass

>>47526406
>It's from the Fyreslayer Battletome
No it isnt. Chaos dwarfs are dead. Some of the aesthetic may live on in the new fyreslayers line, but these are not chaos dwarfs.

>>47526485
I've read the battletome. I'm reading it right now. And you are full of shit. The burden of proof is on you, buddy. Since you cannot provide anything, that is you pretty much admitting there is nothing to support your 'headcanon'.

>>47526502
Yes it is.
Auric Runepriests are high priests of the Zharrgrim Priesthood, which was founded by Chaos Dwarves.

Where do you think the Fyreslayers learned about jamming magic metal into their flesh for power? That's the Chaos Dwarf modus operandi through and through

They aren't evil any more but they are absolutely descendants of the chaos dwarves from the old world

>>47526538
Read it better, it's in there

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>>47526485
>Get called out for talking shit
>Fail to provide source

>hurrr i'm not spooning you guise

>>47526406

>It's from the Fyreslayer Battletome

Silly anon, AoS isn't canon!
This is facetiousness, please ignore.

>>47526450

Exactly. Folding them into Wood Elves would give them a third theme to their faction, Beasts, Woods, and Elves, fleshing out the theme much more, and generally giving both factions more strength.

Although Wood Elves and Beastmen are kind of hugely opposed in previous fluff, though it's possible that while some continued on with Chaos, some were adopted by the Sylvaneth in the same manner as Wood Elves.

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>>47526564
>pls spoonfeed ;_;

>>47526563
Yep, you're still full of shit. Even moreso now than ever. Again, show me where it says the chaos dwarfs of the old world started it all. Unless you show me, your little interpretation is nothing more than headcanon.

And no, "durr go read the book better" is not an answer.

>>47526596
>Implying I'm the same guy
>Implying i give a fuck about the validity of your literal headcanon

Keep falling back on them buzzwords tho :^)

>>47526563
What I would say is true is the fyreslayers have some elements inspired by the chaos dwarfs of old. Sort of the creator's way of tipping their hat to the dead faction.

What I would say is not true is believing the chaos dwarfs of old are connected to the fyreslayers faction. There is no indication of that anywhere.

>>47526785
But they're not even dead! Chaos Dwarves are even getting new models for AoS.

>>47527133
Cool. If that's true, then it even further shows a disconnect between the fyreslayers and the chaos dwarfs.

If there are Chaos Dwarfs among them, where are the tusky teeths?

>>47527220
Well, page 30 on the fyreslayers battletome does say that the auric runemasters are the heads of the ZHARRGRIM priesthood and the CHAOS DWARVES were referred as the DAWI ZHARR in Khazalid tongue. So yeah the relation is there.

I wouldnt go as far as to say their ancestors were Chaos dwarves Tho.

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Stonehorns are cute!

>>47527505
Zharr is just Khazalid for "Fire"

>>47527505
Isn't Zharr just "black" in dorfish?

>>47527662
Oh right, fire, yeah

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>>47527220
New guy is Shar'tor the Executioner, Bull Centaur hero, around 20-25% bigger than the normal BCs. Demonsmith for size.

>>47527505
ZHAAR GRIM means Fire Grim

As in the fiery followers of Grimnir, you dolt. The Fyreslayers despise Chaos andwould rather choose to work for Order.

>>47521904
Nothing, they're being painted, have been for about a week now.

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So, how big are your battles? I'm still AoS-curious and not sure how big army should I have to feel comfortable. I know that I can play just two units and a hero, possibly even less but... you know.

>>47529598
Prob about 50 wounds.

>>47529647
So people are really building armies around wound points?

>>47529691
Eh I use SCGT but the armies generally end up around 50.

>>47529691
For reference, I play 50 point SCGT which is 59 wounds in my particular army

>>47529691
wounds isnt a good way to balance games, but it is a good way to gauge basic army sizes for those games. It's better than going by model count.

>>47529598
The base level we've been running is two units a couple of heroes and a monster. Thats basically a start collecting box and one or two extra purchases depending on your army. We sometime eyeball the games to be balanced but we're moving to using SCGT comp to get back into the habit of building lists before playing for when the Generals Handbook is released in a couple of weeks.

>>47530096
>Generals Handbook is released in a couple of weeks.

>Charging for the concept of a points system almost a year into the game's life .

So fucking stupid, GW has lost a ton of money doing it this way for sure, but fuck 'em they know best.

>>47527542

OGRE art for Age of Sigmar? Where's that from?

How do you lady boys feel about special characters in Aos?
Also rate my 48pt scgt list.
>morathI
>10 corsairs, hand bows and swords
>2×5 warlocks
>2x reaper bolt throwers

>>47530334
Seems like they used the time to promote an open beta approach to the game.

where are the elf pics? I need to hurry up and pick an army!

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>>47530750

>>47530804
AoS Mandrakes

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>>47530804

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>>47530832

>>47530832
GIANT
ELF
THIGHS

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>>47530847
I think it's all we have for now.

>>47530832
>her war aspect
I wonder if her other aspects are just her naked.

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Were Sigmarines designed to look like the guys from E.Y.E.? That's what I thought of first when I saw them.

>>47530334
Its like 20 euro, and thres more han just points.

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>>47531096
Look closer to home.

>>47531096

Internets to the first anon who paints up some sigmarines like Culter Dei, though if you can sculpt well enough a Jian Shang Di type wouldn't be unwelcome. Gloss black with dark grey, silver, and gold/brass highlights.

>>47529069
>Fyreslayers despise Chaos andwould rather choose to work for Order

Nah, they will work for everyone with ur-gold.

>>47532531
Of course they would never turn down an offer of ur-gold from anyone, but still they would prefer to work with order than chaos.

I just rolled up a fairly strange Path to Glory warband:

Chaos Lord on Daemonic Mount
Sorcerer Lord
Chimera
3 x 10 warhounds

Would this be any use whatsoever? Also what's the strangest/best warband you've rolled?

>>47530537
khorne bloodbound battletome

>>47506866
Quick /tg/, Black knights or Hex wraiths? I currently have:
30 Skeletons (all with spears)
1 Vampire
1 Necromancer
10 Black Knights
1 Skull catapult
1 wraith

Which would be more effective? And which would fit better into my fluff as the reanimated city guard?

Also, what would be a good expansion to my current force?

>>47506986
>didn't revolve around power houses so much.
stop playing aos then

>>47531096
wow those look a lot better than the GW sigmarine wow ripoffs

>>47532568
>Of course they would never turn down an offer of ur-gold from anyone
to buy fucking what
what do they need
they run around naked

out of all the new models
fyreslayers are by far the ugliest

>>47533644
just nagash
why do anything else
literally why

aos players like simple shit right? nothing simpler than playing nagash infinite cheese train

>>47534020
>doesnt know what they do with the ur-gold or why they collect it
>has absolutely no inkling of fyreslayer fluff

At least you have an opinion of the models themselves, and that makes you special!

>>47533987
>>47534013
>>47534020
>>47534042
Thanks for the bump.

>>47534065
>>doesnt know what they do with the ur-gold or why they collect it
>>has absolutely no inkling of fyreslayer fluff
>I don't understand jokes
your average AOS player everyone!
inb4
>i was just pretending to be retarded
the idea that they have no need for money because theyre naked is a very plainly obvious joke.

models are ugly as sin, that one wasnt a joke.

>>47534070
thanks for proving how much my shitposting really gets to you

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Thinking about getting an Ogre Kingdoms battalion just because I love the models and think they'd be fun to paint

How are they in AoS?

>>47534130
Thanks for the bump.

>>47527542
is that supposed to be an ogre

>>47534167
thanks for the (you)
>>47534159
theres only a handful of armies that arent total dogshit
AOS isnt balanced by any means

>>47534183
Thanks for the bump.

>>47533987
Fuck you, I'm going to play it twice as much and complain about it constantly until eventually GW gets its shit together.

>>47534183
So are they one of the total dogshit ones, then?

Is there a good amount of people out there playing Warhammer Fantasy?

>>47534159
>Ogre
Excellent, they are god damn powerful, from melee to range, abilities to spell, infantry to monster... the only down size is their model size, fighting in narrow alley is bad for ogres.

Does anyone have a link to one of the artwork folders?

Played Silver Tower today and it's pretty fun. However, one thing we couldn't quite figure out was how the fuck do you choose what enemies to place? Like if it says place 4 acolytes, how do you decide what kinds of acolytes you deploy?

>>47534159
This >>47534332

They're actually incredibly strong, not just in base stats but their special rules are incredibly over bearing.
Hopefully they'll be comped hard in the generals compendium or every AOS tourney will be ograh spam.

>>47534451
Just wing it. Silver Tower is based off the rules for AoS after all.

would somebody be able to provide me with a few screenshots of character cards from the Silver tower app seeing as i have a windows phone
characters i would like the rules for:
Wight king
Necromancer
Lord of plague

>>47534451
Player with the token decides

Dread Saurian, /tg/. Worth the price? (in canadian btw)

How do people play such small wound counts when most of the centerpiece models are so massive? I find myself wanting to run like 100-150 wound battles but it seems the scene is way more tailored around tiny skirmish shit. Like for example I want to run everchosen (with on-horse archaon). How can you even have that function in a small game?

>>47534838
Personally, I'm most comfortable around the 50 or 60 wound range. I feel like it's a good balance for the system.

>>47534838
my shop we all play around 150-200 wounds so idk senpai try and get some people to play larger games they will probably like it although everyone was a fantasy player before hand so we all have huge armies

>>47534676
So there's no real reason to not pick the easiest guys first.

>>47535047
>>47534838
We found anything that big felt kinda shitty, the way the rules are set up sigmar feels way more interesting with small skirmish games focused around objectives, the moment you have whole armies clashing it really starts to feel lame.

My favourite Simgar games so far have all been really small scale with like 2 units, 2 Hero/monster and 3 objectives spread out over the table with a lot of terrain. The synergy and combat aspects really start to matter a lot when you're both being forced to stretch what you have.

>>47535462
100 wounds is not that terrible, I usually play with 80-100 wounds on the table and the game feels perfect. With one big model(12-15 wounds), 2-3 heroes you get 3 more units. Not too much stuff imho, you can get a game done in little more than one hour and it feels fun and you get full sinergies from the whole army.
In my area the most common format is 50 wounds tho, works pretty good but usually people play with one big model, a single unit and a support hero. Its fun but can become boring pretty soon unless you don't have acess to summons, because its usually the units clashing while he centerpieces wait for the best moment to strike.

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sup guys, woking on my marble stormcasts. Armour is done, next is the hammer plus lighting and the models should be ok! The blue parts(cloths) are TERRIBLE and ill make them again from scratch. toughts?

>>47535938
All the paint looks really thick. No I'm serious.

>>47535983
>>47535938
I kinda like the fact the paint looks a little too thick in some spots, carved stuff wears with time and a little details is lost.

They're far from perfect but at least interesting.

>>47536024
Wait, when you say marble, you mean you want them to look as if they're made from marble? Not just a marble color scheme?

That may turn out pretty well then. Keep us posted.

>>47536048
I'm not that guy, I was just responding but I thought that was what he was going for.

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>>47535983
>>47536024
I did the effect using multiple glazes of light grey/azure grey to cover the marble "stripes". After i did all the shadow, glazes and washes i did multiple drybrushes of pure white, as messier as possible. This covered a LOT of details giving it a more realistic effect.
>>47536048
I wanted to make it like their armour was made of marble, of it looked "kind of" it.
i hate the gold/metalic effect, i iked the "sanctity"idea around them and so I made something reminescent of statues of Saints from gothic europe. A lot of marble, a lot of gold. red and blue are there to add a bit of colour.

Thanks to everyone anyway! Its a scheme tought to be fast. Like this, i can complete the armour in around 1hr per model(not counting drying time of course)

Which is best - grave guard or tomb guard?

>>47536144
Grave

>>47536144

One had old shitty derpy models and got squatted, so the choice is EZ.

>>47536144
I think tomb guard exit only in the app, so grave.
Also, grave has better models.

>>47536711

You realize shill that the Grave Guard models are older sculpts than the TG?

>>47536144
Would you rather have someone guard your grave, or your tomb?

Does anyone have the stats for the knight azyros? i bought the hero expansion and its utterly retarded that there are no cards for the heroes inside...

>>47536802
He's free in the app.

>>47521904
My dwarf grudge thrower mechanic killed a dragon with a wrench and won the game.

>>47510765

I wonder if the Darkoath Chieftain's extra dismembered Tzaangor head works on a CSM Sorcerer after filing the hand off?

So, after cramming all the board tiles, cards and markers back into the Silver Tower box, where should the assembled models go? Not sure if the Ogroid Thaumaturge can even stand in the box, not to mention the Gaunt Summoner. Aelf models are a trainwreck waiting to happen, especially if crammed back into the box.
> In b4 toughness 3

>>47537353
>So, after cramming all the board tiles, cards and markers back into the Silver Tower box, where should the assembled models go? Not sure if the Ogroid Thaumaturge can even stand in the box, not to mention the Gaunt Summoner. Aelf models are a trainwreck waiting to happen, especially if crammed back into the box.
I didn't even think of that. I have them on my display shelf.

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>>47536984
no, he's not.
The knight venator is, not the azyros.
Also,
>tfw you do not have a smartphone

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>>47537395
tfw when you have windows phone

>>47537353
Invest in a case. Battle foam made a foam tray that's custom made to fit in the game box for roughly 20 dollars.

>>47537395
Did you check the pastebin? I know one anon made a spreadsheet doc with all the heroes.

>>47536750
>shill


You don't know what that buzzword actually means do you?

>>47517314
You're doing good work anon.

>>47527542
>that filename
YOU HAD ONE JOB

>>47537395

Found it!
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dkW9LGPn62Tvecl-ulz2U5aqSvyu-7XtGe9WWhNBIV0

>>47517314
Make sure you get the Battalions up there

>>47537923
Where to get?

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>>47506866
>>47507523

I really, really need some lore/fluff relating to Undead vs. Nurgle.

>>47538539
Check out the flesheater courts, Ushoran is back as the Carrion King and he is rebelling against Nagash

>>47538395
Battlefoam, he said.

Ayo hol up

>Sigmarite Shields: You can re-roll save rolls of 1 for this unit if any models from the unit are carrying Sigmarite Shields.
If out of 100 models in the unit, just one is carrying a Sigmarite Shield, I can reroll all of their saving rolls of 1?

>>47538826
Yes, that's how it would work. Too bad you can only pick sigmarine army by the unit (grand weapons notwithstanding), so it's either shields or dual weapons.

>>47538929
Oh. Well okay then.

>>47538826
If we are talking about Liberators, then yes, but it also states that all models in the unit have to be equipped the same way (except for special weapons) so you can't have 99 dual wielding guys and 1 guy with a shield.

So you can have
>dual wielding
or
>1h + shield

>5 ooruk brutes for $50 USD
>3 boar riders for $79
Holy fucking shit. I don't think so. They don't seriously expect people to pay this much money for so few models, do they?

>15 ard boys for $53
That's better but still way too expensive. I could buy a video game with that money and get many hours of enjoyment

>>47539009
Congratulations, you've made a personal decision regarding the value of one purchase against another. See you in /v/.

>>47539009
Yeah it's an expensive hobby

Try checking kijiji or craigslist for people offloading their collections

You can find some GW resellers that go for 15-25% off. If you are in canada then I recommend http://gc-minis.com/ they sell everything on the GW website for 25% off retail, and free shipping over $250.

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>visit other WH discussions
>people are still shitposting about AOS
>people genuinely enjoy how bloated and overcomplicated 40k rules have become

>>47539331
play*

>>47539331
>I don't get how people enjoy something I don't like

>>47539331
36 minutes too late for the 10am shitpost, sorry friend

>>47539254
As long as they're not shitposting in here I'm fine with them bitching and whining, to be honest. Let them stew in their contempt.
And as for 40k, the unwieldy flyer phase now bolted onto the main game convinced me that the game really needs another drastic cut like the change from 2nd to 3rd edition.

>>47539484
I don't understand why people don't realise how fucking shit and complicated 8E WHFB was. 6&7E were great but 7E had OP codices.

I'm not sure I see the use of 2"+ range melee weapons. The idea would be either that you have a big unit of models and they all pile up, or you maintain a tiny frontage towards the target unit, so that you can attack but they cannot. But since they get to attack after you charge them, you have to have a model within 1/2" of theirs, and each time they attack they get the pile-in move, it doesn't seem likely that you'll end up with models at distances greater than 1". What am I missing?

>>47539581
You can only fit so many models within an inch. 2 inches let's you fight from behind another model, so you get more attacks in, what's hard to understand?

>>47539581
I love 2" weapons. When you are fighting in ranks (common with infantry) you get more attacks off than if you were using 1" weapons.

It is also very helpful for reaching over units to hit specific targets. I use it all the time on my Oldblood on Carnosaur to hit wizards or heroes that are behind other models.

Also AOS measures model to model so if you don't have 2" reach then you can't hit flyers like Ripperdactyls/Terradons.

>>47539581
They just allow massive units to make more attacks, basically. At a certain point your own dudes will be blocking other friendly troops from attacking, 2" range weapons mean you can still get attacks in with the 'back ranks'.

>>47539581
I don't see what's not to get there.
There are basically two ways to use spears and the like. If you take a unit you will never get all that many models within 1" of the enemy by default, you'd need several pile-ins to make the most of it. weapons with long reach allow for many more models to contribute right from the get go.
The other way to use them is to have a tough unit absorb an enemy charge and a unit with longer weapons hide behind them to stab through the anvil unit, which piles in to encircle and trap the enemy unit.

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>>47537282
i don't see why not, although it's pretty stubby without the hand you'd be better off either sculpting the bracer or using a different hand altogether

>>47540348
P sure he's talking about using the head as the sorceror's head.

>>47540517
Totally read that as hand haha

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>>47538360
Thanks anon, +10 internets for you and my undying(nurglite)love.
Hope you don't mind the rotten dick and barnacle-liem testicles.

i still found utterly retarded they didn't put cards into the "expansion" box.
I mean, come fucking on, the app is ugly and we have to print those for ourselves? at least put a fucking pdf to print.

Anyone know good count-as Varghulf models?

the GW one looks pretty derpy with the pose

>>47528373
Let's be real here, the colors on that Bull Centaur look like he was ripped right out of WoW.

I mean, god do I love this game, but shit, come on. The proportions, the pastel colors, the helmet/mask, the armor and the bling.. this looks like it was ripped staight out of WoW.
Daemonsmith looks nice, tho.

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Someone posted pic related in the total war general on /vg/. Anyone know what they're on about? That assassin elf in Silver Tower had "shard" in their name so it could be to do with them, but I didn't think any of the fluff had explicitly said this.

>>47541780
Where do you think blizzard gets their ideas?

>>47541780
>>47541832
Blizzard used to be heavily inspired by GW. These days GW is inspired by Blizzard.

Funny how that goes.

>>47534451
You first place one of each variant and only then do you place others.

Example: There are two of each of the three Tzaangor sculpts: Dual-wield, sword'n'board and two-handed axe.

If you have to deploy three, you have to place one of each.
If you have to deploy two, the rune-marked player decides which of the three sculpts to leave out.
If you have to deploy 4, you place one of each sculpt and the rune-marked player decided which sculpt to deploy a second one of.

So with 4 Kairic Acolytes, you'd have to deploy one of each of the four sculpts.

>>47516093
>>47516005
>>47510101

Any idea where I could source some Bretonian head's? Ebay doesnt seem to have much.

>>47541878
>GW is heavily inspired by Blizzard

Proofs.

>>47541964
Tyranids
Orruks

>>47542011
>Tyranids

Somebody hasn't seen jes goodwyns sketches of the new Tyranids.

>Orruks

Literally Orcs. What about them is inspired by Warcraft Orcs?

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>>47542011

>>47542040
Got pics of those Tyranid Sketches you mention? Would like to see them.

>>47537353
I've just been carrying it all in the open box. Not the safest method, but I haven't had a problem yet.

>>47542090
The Gothic and the Eldritch I think.

>>47541964
>Proofs
Just look at the AoS designs.
They could be taken 1:1 from WoW. The Angel dudes from the Sigmarines are a spin on the Angel from Diablo.

In any case GW made a change in artstyle and the proportions used in their designs as well the colors used for the artwork and promo stuff. Draws pretty heavily on the Blizzard cartoon style coined by Samwise imo.
You can find similar designs in other places as well of course. In any case they have become a lot more generic.

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>>47542168
>The Angel dudes from the Sigmarines are a spin on the Angel from Diablo.

Oh yeah I forgot that Blizzard invented angels

>>47542168
>My opinion = proof

It's really not, but good look being an overly-dramatic dickhead assuming anything chunky is automatically WoW.

By the way, the Angel wings in Diablo are tendrils of light.

The Winged dudes for the Stormcast have solid wings designed on Renaissance/ Art deco Light from the heavens.

You know, the reoccuring theme across all stormcast?

>>47542201

not that guy you're arguing with but are you saying nothing in AoS is inspired by WoW? also recall with the ironjawz release people were praising the release for taking design ques from WoW

>>47542168
>The Angel dudes from the Sigmarines are a spin on the Angel from Diablo.

They look like Sanguinary Guard.
Big guys with big pauldrons may be a thing Blizzard does, but they are not the inventors of it.

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>>47542236
>Big Burly Orcs were taking design queues from WoW

>Because WoW has Big Burly Orcs.

How the fuck do these look anything like Warcraft Orcs?

>>47542263

>reminder that GW orcs use to be hunched over but these ones stand upright like Warcraft orcs

Checkmate.

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>>47542263
How do they NOT look like warcraft orcs?

>>47542300
>these ones stand upright

The tops of their heads are level with the tops of their backs.

>>47542314
Because they look like meganobz.

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>>47542314
>>47542300

>Gorilla arms
>Large heads
>Extremely large lower jaws
>large pointy ears
>short blunted noses upward in a point

Look at this horrible WoW Orc!

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>>47542400

>>47542314
The only similarity beyond common orcish traits is that they have spikes on their collars. Something GW has been doing with space orks since long before the shitheap that was WoD.

>>47542400
>>47542433

>giant machine gun
>WoW orc

>model made before WoW was even a concept in the head of the devil Metzen

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Darn. And the "what went wrong" containment thread someone made was doing such a good job.

>>47542483
>The Point


>Your head

>>47542483
Holy fuck are you trolling?

>>47542503

That thread brings up a lot of good points.

>>47542547
Not him, but GW orcs came before WoW orcs. Theyre what WoW orcs are based off.

>>47542727
Are you people seriously missing the point they are trying to make? Can multiple people be this dense? Is this for real right now?

right, ive been playing some aos for a bit now, more focussed on silver tower and painting stuff though. However one thing that still confuses me is the range of weapons + charge.

Can a unit succeed a charge if it does not end up next to the target model?

Example: I have 2 units, 1 with 1 inch range weapons and 1 with 3 inch range weapons. If my 1 inch guys make it in, do my 3 inch guys have to go the long way round so that they also arrive within 1 inch of the enemy, or can they finish their charge behind the 1st unit and attack over them because they have range?

>>47543111
the closest models must make it within a half inch

>>47543111

Any unit that charges has to be able to get at least one model within 1/2" of an enemy model. Melee weapon range is irrelevant until the combat phase.

>>47543181
>>47543184

Thx

>>47541821
Tenebral Shard is male.

>>47533644
Hex Wraiths are cool so I vote Hex Wraiths

New thread
>>47544747
>>47544747
>>47544747