So, either Marvel are trying to buy out 40k, or a copyright was

>>47229329
GW will settle out of court, if anything.

>>47229368
Yup. Most likely Disney will pony up some cash, the artist will be sternly reprimanded or fired, and that issue will be reprinted with altered art and MarvelTau will quietly disappear.

>>47229329
The fuck is this? What are you talking about?

>>47229403
Some Venom comic has Tau as generic aliens.

>>47229403

some artist googled "orange aliens ships" grabbed some tau tanks, altered them a little bit (some size morphing) and put it in his comic

>>47229329
>copyright was between Disney and Games Workshop
Nigga, please. GW is dumb, but not openly suicidal.

>>47229428
>>47229420

Ahahaha Oh man. Oh MAN that guy is fired.

GW is going to have an open and shut case on this. They might even win enough money to bring back some of the specialist games.

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>>47229329
Oh this dumb motherfucker

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A quick google turns up some other examples.

>>47229329
It doesn't even look like the artist drew them. Like he just photoshopped a screenshot from Dawn of War or something.

>>47229446
As long as GW doesn't start anything, which they won't it won't even register anywhere. Until some bigger outlet reports on it, no one will notice and even then it's just free publicity.

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>>47229329
>It was an HOMAGE!

>>47229471

Is he flying off in a Falcon grav tank?

>>47229475
Dude they axed fucking Chapter Master, some obscure fan game from the the bay13 forums. You think they wont notice this?

>>47229473
If you look closely, you'll notice the teeny tiny hatch on the circular side doors haven't been scaled up to fit on the portal they are supposed to cover, revealing the ground underneath.

I think its a 3d model ripped from DoW and poorly scaled up, before being screenshot and put in there digitally.

>>47229485

GW officially killed Chapter Master? This may be old news but I had no idea...

How can they do that under fair use?

>>47229485
>some obscure fan game
Axing that is easy. Fucking with the Mouse when your own "ip" is mostly derivative is suicide.

>>47229500
Haha, also the drones don't fit in their docks. Dunno how I noticed the hatch first.

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>>47229500
Here's that hatch from the side. Definitely some kind of DoW asset.

>>47229480
I don't think that that will hold up in court. Especially sine this literally looks like it was ripped from DoW

>>47229522
Also the drones aren't scaled up and the symbol is literally the t'au sept symbol

>>47229522
>Kept the tau symbol
kek

>>47229482
I think he is.

>>47229505
They did, but he just renamed everything and made the 40k stuff a "mod".

>>47229510
How is it even contestable though? I mean those are Tau ships. Nobody can fucking deny that. They aren't even DRAWN. They have the Tau Symbols on the fucking sides of them.
>>47229522

>>47229503
What the hell?

>>47229510
This is straight up plagarism. Not only that but It's 40k doesn't exactly seem like the kind of thing disney would like to be associated with, what with all the genocide, nazi iconography, ultraviolence, and other less than savory things in it

>>47229558
The guy managed to make a bolter look even more dumb

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Maybe this is where he got the model from. Some website has a pack of them you can download for Poser and whatnot.

>>47229572
There's a fucking signpost on the top of it.

>>47229575
That looks to be it almost exactly
Which means that two places are likely gonna be sued

Anyone got Geedubs email?

>>47229585
A triangular one. And it appears to be some sort of grappling weapon. With a magazine and maybe an ammo hopper

>>47229586
Looks like he used that model with a really shitty cel shader to try to cartoonify it.

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>>47229475
>>47229485
Oh, GW knows about it, /tg/ already saw to that.

>>47229594
check their site

>>47229575

Eh, I think it's good advertisement for GW. Tau are already not every popular, this will get some people who aren't into 40k to recognize 40k weapons and tanks.

>>47229608
>>47229594
>https://graphicpolicy.com/2016/04/28/is-that-tau-in-venom-space-knight-paging-gw-lawyers/
>Update: We have heard back from Games Workshop who has said they are aware of this and it has been passed along to their legal team for further investigation.

>>47229329

Would it be a good thing if Disney brought out GW? I don't think anyone at GW would really hold out if Disney gave them a whopping great sum for the Warhammer IP.

>>47229613
Tau are retardedly popular since they're the strongest army in the game currently
And it's not really advertising since this is straight up plagarism
>>47229594
The real question is do we have the artist's email or someone at disney

>>47229633
It'd be bad for everyone involved, since it'd likely mean that the warhammer settings would get sterilized and it'd be a huge black mark for disney considering how 40k is

>>47229437
>>47229510
These guys might have it right.

Pretty sure Disney could keep this in court for a hundred years.

>>47229652
They could, but it'd be easier to just can the artist and pay a settlement. probably wouldn't do good for marvel if people knew that they supported plagiarism

>>47229648

Fantasy already got sterilized into Age of Sigmar.

>>47229652
>>47229437

What are you talking about it's an open and shut case with no way to win, Disney will settle out of court...

>>47229607
I will never not laugh at that pic.

>>47229684
Not to mention that the mouse has LITERALLY nothing to gain from dragging it out
The closest link disney has to warhammer is through FFG's X-wing miniatures game which is A) already outselling all of GW's stuff, B) a licensed thing so the mouse doesn't even get most of the cash, and C) produced by a company that ALSO has licenses with games workshop
The only thing disney has to gain from turning this into a court case is bad publicity for supporting plagiarism and a chance to piss off the people who fucking buy marvel comics

>>47229522
>>47229471
I'm amazed they'd put something like these to print. I know it's comics and there's basically no standards but still they're clearly bad looking 3d models.

I can't stop rolling my eyes at all the idiots who go "Disney can just outspend GW to deflect the lawsuit". Why the fuck would they? They're gonna go the path of least resistance, make a settlement with GW outside of court, which will be a fraction of what they would otherwise have to spend.

>>47229751
It's made even dumber when you consider that Disney has almost nothing to gain from this. If they win the lawsuit they what, get the right to use a shitty version of a 3d model some guy made? Even if they did win that artist would probably get canned since HE GOT THEM INTO A FUCKING LAWSUIT

>>47229739
Yeah if nothing else they look shit and out of place.

>>47229782
Meanwhile GW, will be SUPER willing to take a settlement even if its a small one, because hey its cash, and the prospect of potentially losing control over part of their IP would terrify them.

>>47229806
Pretty much. The only side with anything to gain from this is GW, and disney probably made enough cash from that issue alone to pay off GW.
Or hell, just give them .1% of what the latest marvel movie made and they're happy

>>47229485
Nope. Chapter Master is fine.

Currently it's being remodeled to work better by the new guys in charge.

Next update is on 15th May.

>>47229329
Or, absolutely nothing will happen at all. The artist's a hack, but this is completely non-consequential.

>>47229329
>implying GW will dare to startcopyright war with Disney/Marvel

>>47229751
Nobody said they are going to outspend them. Again, you don't fuck with Disney when pretty much all of your IP is built in ripoffs and you rely on not getting noticed by the bigger fish.
I'll give you a hint: Do you know who owns the movie rights to Judge Dredd and Starship Troopers?

>>47229329
its so fucking blatent

>>47230055
This isn't worth the mouses time and resources.

GW knows they won't win a straight fight without substantial effort, but the mouse also doesn't want this fight, its easier to settle out of court with a token sum. That way GW doesn't have to defend its patent and neither company has to get involved in a fight neither wants.

>>47229329
its really weird to be on games workshops side on a copyright matter for once

>>47230055
No Disney has no legs to stand on in this case. I can't remember what its called (I think its fair use in the US) but in copywright law what this artist has done is illegal, and what GW did is not.

>>47229329
According to the Internet there's a necron somewhere in there too

>>47230140
Yep. There was on the one with the not!Eldar Grav-Tank.

>>47229522
Jesus Christ, they didn't even fucking TRY to make it less obvious.

I thought Disney didn't own the comic rights to Marvel, just the movie rights.

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somebody should make rules for fielding Marvel heroes in 40k games

>>47230415

Iron Man would be Smashfucker x 9000

>>47230413
The comics and movies operate under different subsidiary companies, but the Walt Disney Company owns all of Marvel.

>>47229682
You mean Fantasy was IMPROVED into Age of Sigmar.

>>47230508

Please go back to your circlejerk general and stay there.

/co/ - /tg/ 1:0

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>>47230508

>>47230532

/co/s always been the closest board to /tg/ anyway. Besides /d/

>>47230542
Yet still we owned you.

>>47229420
ell oh ell

>>47229503
That one's more ambigous, it's clearly "inspired" but I wouldn't say to the point of being any sort of trademark infringement?

>>47230542
Not really. /v/ is the closest, followed by /a/.
/co/ is the closest with 40k though, but that's hardly reflective of the larger /tg/ population.

>>47230607
/v/ and /a/ aren't anything like /tg/.

They need to seriously chill the fuck out before than can become true.

>Marvel makes a 40K Movie
>Disney allows them to be somewhat grim dark
>Russos directing
I'm ready

>>47230607
Why? Since 40k is the biggest wargame.

>>47230607

I saw /v/s threads about the announcement of DoW III.

All they did was bitch about it.

>>47230619
You're implying /co/ is anything like /tg/?

Only if you're implying the worst parts of /tg/.

>>47230627
I assume you didn't see DoW 3 screenshots.

>>47230625
It's its own thing, and doesn't really play nice with anything else (there's few things worse than trying to make a 40k crossover).
And, while the largest wargame, D&D remains as the biggest game overall, with MTG following.

>>47230660
Most of /tg/ memes are whrelated. Except quest threads most of /tg/ threads is also related with GW.

>>47230638
Man, /co/ isn't exactly the best board on this site, but at worst its still better than /v/ and /a/.

Maybe I'm just burned out on those boards bullshit though.

>>47230678
Most of the /tg/ memes you pay attention to. Try not to let your perceptions color your world too much.

>>47230687
I'd actually argue that /co/ is far worse than /v/ or /a/, but that's partially a matter of taste, and partially a matter of the tumblr influence.

/a/ and /v/ can be pretty bad, but /co/ gets downright horrible.

Not the first time this has happened. Off the top of my head Disturbed's shitty Land of Confusion cover has multiple MKI Rhinos

>>47229988
Bingo! We have a winner.

FD: I am a former Marvel employee. Print production.

1) Marvel doesn't give a shit about this stuff. The "talent" that they hire cribs, copies, traces, "references" and outright steals on a very regular basis. Due to the sheer volume of work they put out in a week they either never know, or when it is brought to their attention they write it off as an artistic "choice." I know this because I hate Greg Land on a personal level and used to bring every instance of his tracing to my boss...and every time they turned a blind eye because despite all decency in this world his shit moves units. Granted Ariel OIivetti is basically a nobody...and Marvel wouldn't mind tossing him under the bus to make a point...but they don't HAVE to do that because...

2) While GW might be notoriously quick to pull out their legal phallus against forums, websites and tiny one-man operations, there is very little chance that they would want to pick a fight with Disney, a corporation whose throbbing legal member would probably make them walk away believing they stole the Tau from Marvel.

>>47230817
>Implying that the 'stealing/disappearance' of Tau is a bad thing

>not realizing that car design has existed since the '80s in the Terran Trade Authority books, as well as being a design mockup for the Spinners in Bladerunner.

Those are an old, old, old design, guys.

>>47230817
>>47230847
>Tau go the way of the Squats, destroyed by an all-consuming intergalactic monster that casts shadows in hell itself
Yeah, I can see it happening.

>>47230817
Man they didnt even file off the tau logo. They might as well have written "we got this from GW" on it.
>>47230851
Its literally ripped from dawn of war. See >>47229522 They just resized a few things like the door hatch and the drone.

>>47229607
Non-40k-player here. What's going on in the pic?

>>47230904
>>47230904
I also dont play 40K but as far as I remember the space marine dude was running a white scar army where all of it starts the game in reserve since he figured the tau guy would have a normal tau gunline.
The Tau guy actually had a shitload of kroot which he infiltrated onto the marine guys side of the board so he wasnt able to bring anyone in and instantly lost.

>>47230904
It's from a few editions back, but it's a glorious moment

The dude in the white has a cheesy list where his entire army starts in reserve (off the table) and can "move" into the game on the enemy's starting side after the game begins, which is a pretty huge advantage - the enemy can't shoot them, and they get into combat faster.

The guy with the grin knew this tactic, and deployed his force - a few very big infantry units, with maximum spread between models - in such a way that the other guy's army has no eligible way to come onto the board. The army is defeated because it can't arrive, despite not a single unit being killed

>>47230880
Again. I don't disagree with you. This is half the reason I am a former Marvel employee (the other half is shit compensation). But due to a combination of being shielded by Disney and literally printing money in the film department Marvel definitely has the unique ability to not give a single fuck about something so trivial as some freelance shithead adhering to silly laws. Worst case scenario they burn Olivetti because he is not a Marvel employee and they continue going about their business.

But nothing will happen, because this is so trivial to both companies.

>>47230904
Kid has his entire army be White Scars Bikers. Generally rush in close and rape everyone to death.
He declared that his entire army will be flanking, allowing them to not be deployed, but come in from the other side of the board to get into close combat I-Win quicker.

Tauguy, rather than hunker down and make a gunline used his Kroots to Scout. Scouts can be placed anywhere where the enemy can't see them. Since the entire enemy army is off the board he just used them to line the entire edge of the board.

With all possible entrances blocked off, there's no way for the White Scars to enter and the entire army is legally destroyed.

Kid and Redshirt are puzzling over the rules, while Tauguy has won and fucking knows it.

>>47230880
And GW ripped them off of old TTA books and concept art from Bladerunner.

They have no leg to stand on.

>>47230985
From a lore point of view, I want to think the T'au commander played Cao Cao's Famous Empty Fort Strategy.
If you went to strike the enemy but find kroots in a conga line, you know there is something fishy there. Better retreat and strike other day.

>>47230817
There is no reason for Disney to fight GW. What can they posssibly win from it, a meh sci fi tank render? They'll settle out of court for a minor amount and possibly reprimand the author. GW will be happy with the free money and their dedication to their IP, Disney will make back the money within a few days from their comic parts.

>>47231052
>There is no reason for Disney to fight GW. What can they posssibly win from it, a meh sci fi tank render?
40k.

>>47231022
I want this to be enshrined in the Tau lore some day, even as a one line note in the battle timeline

>>47231071

They have Star Wars, and Star Wars would outsell 40k any day of the week.

>>47231052
Sure there's a reason. Because a) they can and b) they are more than likely to get any claim thrown out. But again, it will never happened because GW won't bother. This is all stupid speculation over what was a very lazy move on the part of an artist who will, unfortunately, continue to get work and continue to do this same thing with other IPs.

>>47229522
Hey marvel, take a page from your competition, DC's Gotham Academy and there "Spells and Serpents", and change the symbol and name

>>47231104
Yeah, but they could have 2 IP (or use Citadel for Star Wars wargame).

>>47231126
>dude straight up steals a render from a game
>the render is bad and the tank design is nothing special though
There is no way Disney can get this claim thrown out. They can't just state the dude didn't know he was using copyrighted material, be it from GW or whatever site he got it from. Sure they could outspend them and drag on the process, but they literally gain nothing. Why spend money on prolonging retarded court cases with no benefit whatsoever when they can just throw GW some change and be done with it.

>>47231126
Dont GW sort of have to or they might loose trademark to their shit?

>>47231199
Pretty much. I believe that, legally, if you know somebody has infringed your trademark/copyright and you don't attempt to defend it, you lose it.

>>47230985
So i assume the red guy is some sort of judge, trying to find and go over the relevant rules?

>>47231198
Dude, if Marvel will say "it's our design", GW will do nothing, just like when Disney made Imperial Guard their intelectual property.

>>47230622
Vince Russo? What the fuck?

>>47231248
Even someone with down syndrome could tell its just a skyray thats been messed with. Jesus christ you can even see the little rockets on the little down sized drone.

>>47231268
Anthony Russo and Joseph V. Russo. They did the captain america: civil war movie.

>>47229613

Anyone who doesn't know who the Tau are aren't going to get directed to 40k from that sort of plagiarism. The only people who will notice are the ones who already recognize it.

>>47231248
GW had no rights over Imperial Guard as a name. Completely unrelated. And again, the dude straight up stole GW art. Not traced it or some shit, it's literally renders of DoW models copypasted and slightly upscaled. You can not win this kind of court case in any circumstance.
And Disney has no possible reason to even try to do it or fuck with GW by prolonging the case. They gain literally nothing if the issue is a bland sci fi tank, being used by bland and generic aliens, in a one shot of some shitty comic.

>>47231368
>GW had no rights over Imperial Guard as a name
So as they don't have rights over antigarv-tank and Japs symbols.

>>47231379
They have rights to the ones that come directly out of their videogames.

>>47231379
Anon, please do the following
>reread my previous comment
>keep in mind that the usage of literally is really literal
>put a bullet in your stupid head

>>47230542
That used to be the case, but the tumblr cancer has caused our two boards to drift apart over the years.

>>47231368
>They gain literally nothing
They have chance to destroy main competitor of their X-wing game.

>>47231414
i really dont think theres that much tumblr on /co. more then any other board yes but still a fairly small amount
there are far to many fucking namefags though

>>47231465
I'm not going to say they don't compete at all, but i will say they fulfill entirely different niches, and people who would never even consider 40k might consider x-wing. I've even played a few simple games with random friends who don't /tg/ at all, and they could get into it like a board game+.

>>47231465
thats a good point but disney still wouldent fight it theres no possible way they could win this case this is one of the most clear cut examples of copyright infringement i have ever seen.

look i know the copyright system is a corrupt mess where money can get you what you want but it really only goes so far when its this fucking blatant games workshop couldn't possible lose

>>47231494
>but i will say they fulfill entirely different niches,
Nah, even Kirby admits that they are in the same niche.

>>47231483
fuck i mean /co/ i need sleep

>>47231483
>there are far too many fucking namefags

That type of problem comes from not being able to appreciate the subculture of an anonymous imageboard.

I think the decline of /co/ can be attributed to a couple other things, like capeshit becoming nerd chic, and the rise of generals. The two , while manageable on their own, were a death combo.

The former creates a large influx of new users, and generals only create
I'm won't deny that /co/ and /tg/ aren't close, but it does fe

>>47229607

I don't even play the game but that guy's shit-eating grin warms the depths of my cold heart.

>>47231465
That might be true. But not like this. Court cases can be really long, convulted and stupid but there is no way that Disney can somehow bankrupt GW in this specific case.

>>47231229
Yes, they're trying to determine if it's legal

>>47229485
Duke never got a C&D letter
So no

>>47229825
>Comics
>Making money
>Especially the shit Venom Spaceknight garbage

>>47231616
>he didn't like Flash's Venom

But why are the circular doors on the sides so tiny?

>>47231660
Because the dumbass only scaled up the main body.

>>47231284
So you want it to be shit?

>>47231687
>implying

>>47231646
Flash Venom was great at least for the part that Remender wrote. Thus new Bendis stuff is fucking trash

>>47231687
Don't you have some dank memes to post, /tv/?

>>47230106
Since when has what's legal and not mattered in court?

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>>47231706
Still sad that they dropped line with Flash and Mania

>>47229428
didn't even alter them. in another page you can even clearly see the tau iconographics.

Now, i know how marvel comic artists work because I know one. It happens fairly often to people who draw for a publishing house like DC or Marvel to take direct reference for background and scenery, since usually landscapes like spiderman's are usually those of NYC. It's easier to trace a photo from any other medium and sometimes, as long as the artist actually puts in some of his own skill and design to draw the thing, it can even be accepted as a good move to save time. Heck, cartoonists don't draw everything by memory by default, that would be autistic or extremely tough. Even when they do everything first-handed, they have to take reference or else stuff will look generic 75% of the time.

This one's another thing, however. Not only the 3d models were shamelessly copypasted, but the artist didn't even try to hide it.
On yet another panel there's an alien escaping on a one-man vessel looking suspiciously like a military-coloured eldar falcon 3d model.

I can understand it if you at least try to fit it in with the rest. This guy literally added stuff that doesn't fit with his own drawing style, no wonder it's shit.

Marvel and GW won't clash, the guy will just be reprimanded.

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It's cute how some people here seem to be under the impression that comic books tracing is a big deal.

>>47231845
At least star wars is owned by Disney. Not sure how the copyright works out with Lego too though.

>>47231845
Oh... Oh god.

>>47231724
Always. Expensive lawyer wrangling only comes into it when things aren't clear or get into grey areas. This is neither situation.

While disney may be able to ddag it out them lsoing is the inevitable conclusion if it ever makes it too court. It won't though because Disney knows this and will just quitly settle out of court with GW.

>>47232311
Except the Tau iconography isn't copyrighted by GW, it's found elsewhere. The ships themselves are based on designs from the 80's, meaning they're free reign to use.

>>47232333
>based on
nigga it's LITERALLY a copied model from a GW game.

>>47232333
Use your fucking eyes retard. It's a literal copy/paste of a 3d model.

>>47232333
This isn't just referenceing though. Its literally a 3D model extracted from DoW complete with its original textures and poorly resized.
It'd be like if GW made a new chapter master mini that was just a recast Khador war caster with a bolter glued on.

>>47232350
Which is a copied model from an unused movie storyboard and a distinctively used painting in a TTA book!

They stole stuff GW stole! That's the fucking point, it brings into question the copyright entirely.

>>47231022
Fishy? Kroot don't use devilfish.

>>47231856
That's a few years old. I'm pretty sure Disney didn't own Star Wars back when it came out.

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>>47232376
no, it's pretty blatantly a Tau tank from Dawn of War.

>>47232376
Well, show us these art pieces, and we can see all the similarities.

>>47229607
Based Trollface Mckroot

>>47229329
There was also a super science gun that was a bolt pistol and the giant alien ship that was a LEGO Snowspeeder with the windshield removed and a donut around it.
Seriously, this is embarrassing.

>>47229329
>>47229522
Ok, with literally DoW assets I think the interested party wouldn't be GW itself, but rather either Relic or SEGA. Or possibly all three.

>>47231284
Why would you want this? What an awful choice

>>47231817
Who's the qt?

>>47229648
They didn't do that to Marvel comics though, they left them as retarded as they were before.
The cutesy ones like Gwenpool seem to be more of a consequence of the movies bringing in new fans, including women, as well as the general SJW movement and sort of a rise of kawaii aesthetic in the West (with in theory adult stuff looking like Bravest Warriors or Bee & Puppycat).

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>>47230415
>>47230428

>>47232552
> GW lawyers contact Disney.
> "We really don't want to bother but.... come on!"

>>47231845
really? fucking lego?

>>47231646
Flash Venom was good. But it was good in part because of the risk of Venom overtaking him as well as the tacticool stuff.
Now that they "purified" him and sent him to space, it's lame.

>>47232618
Don't

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>>47232618
Mania. Way back in the 90s the symbiote found a clone of itself and absorbed it. More recently it made a deal with the devil and got marked with a magic pentigram that sometimes shows up and lets the host command demons. Then a demon tried to possess him but couldn't take control and got stuck because of the mark. Flash Thompson (the current Venom) was this girl's gym teacher and neighbour. When a villain attacked him he father was killed and he put some symbiote on her to protect her. It turned out that the Venom symbiote thought that was a good opportunity to get rid of the demon and hell mark, so it stuck both of them on the clone that was still part of it and gave them to her.

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>>47232729
That's the stupidest thing I've heard all week, and I go to /ps2g/.

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>>47229329
>so there i am scrolling around
>Suddenly
>That'sclearly venon. And those are fucking Harbringers.
>MFW

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>>47232749
The plots of comics tend to sound exponentially stupider the more you summarize them. It's shockingly coherent when you actually read the issues.

>>47232749
Cape comics, Anon. Shit like that happens all the fucking time.

>>47231138
Since GW is having trouble writing just about anything coherent these days, and Disney only barely comprehends the gaming hobby, this would be a match made in Hell to enhance the suffering of the living.

>>47229329
Please no. Please dont buy GW and make it another ameriturd franchise.

>>47232952
They already did with Cadbury, might as well go Tyranid and consume the rest.

>>47232764
That gif. Way to ruin nordic mythology so that fat walmart people could watch it.

>>47230865
Now that would make 40k instantly 40000 times better!

>>47233024
>Getting so much sphincter pain from a gif

There something you want to talk about?

>>47233012
I'd forgotten about the Kraft takeover, now I'm mad again. Thanks, anon.

>>47229560
Genosha
Red Skull
Sentry v Ares

Aside from the plagiarism, there is very little you would find in 40k that couldn't fit in capeshit

>>47233024
Just like Space Wolves release.

>>47233024
>Muh viking heritage
Fuck off snownigger.

>>47230508
And this is why I laugh that Marvel will stomp your husband into the ground, you little beaten wife, you.

>>47233024
>that gif offends me.
>completely forgetting that Son of The mask is a thing.
Thor is something like "The Greatest Story ever Told" when it comes to norse mythilogy. At least compared to the abortion of a kids film that is Son of Mask did.

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>>47229329
We already had this thread a few weeks ago.

>>47234284
Please don't remind me of son of the mask. That movie killed comedy

Y'all niggers actually have the raw, unmitigated stupidity to not know sci-fi toss references to other sci-fi into the background all the time? Starship enterprise in the background of a battlestar galactica episode and so on?

>>47234424
Proving that the Thor movies/ comics don't destroy norse mythology that badly.
Son of the mask is like those garbage Teir christian movies that keep coming out that don't really talk about people real life issues, but more a fake America that no one lives in.

>>47234439
The difference is that said sci-fi reference doesn't come with the threat of lawsuits like referencing 40k does.

>>47234582
>GW: We're suing you!
>Disney: Who are you?
>GW: W-we're Games Workshop! We make-
>Disney: Never heard of you. Countersuit for bothering us.
>GW: O-okay.

>>47229607
BASED KROOT
NEED KROOT CODEX

>>47229522
Jesus, as far as intellectual property theft goes this is just plain LAZY. The Tau symbol is a fucking copyrighted asset in itself, and they didn't even remove it. Holy shit.

>>47234620
> I refuse to believe that a company with a legitimate copy right claim can't sue another company.

>>47235063
>court case outcomes aren't determined by which side has more money

Good thing you've still got a couple years left before you graduate high school to figure out how the world works.

>>47235138
Because Disney will totally be willing to spend all that money for an untenable case, right?

>>47234439
>steal a rendered model from a game
>take a screenshot
>resize the hatch or whatever it is, so that it looks like a flyer and not a tank
>leave everything else as it is, even the additionally copyrighted symbols
>screenshot it again
>copy paste it to your comic
This is not a reference and anyone who is not a drooling retard could win GW's lawsuit

>>47235138
Nigger the case is unwinable. No matter how much money Disney would throw at it, GW would win. Except Disney won't spend money on it, because if GW sues they will just settle out of court. Why spend money to prolong an inevitable loss? Shit, even if they bribe everyone and somehow repel GW for long enough, all they get is a shitty screenshoted render of a generic sci fi flyer that they will never ever use again.

>>47235138
>company literally cut-and-pastes a 3D model from another company's video game
>didn't even take the (also individually copyrighted) faction symbols off of the model before putting it in

There is absolutely no way that this can be spun as Disney not being the offending party, even with how horribly convoluted copyright laws are. They straight-up put someone else's assets into their work and sold it.

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>>47232749
>That's the stupidest thing I've heard all week, and I go to /ps2g/.
Oh come on, we've got a Vanu Internet Defense Force!

>>47232791
>The plots of comics tend to sound exponentially stupider the more you summarize them. It's shockingly coherent when you actually read the issues.
Except the Demon Part, but yeah, Comics...

>>47234693
>BASED KROOT
>NEED KROOT CODEX
I first read that as "BASED GROOT."
...But yes, GROOT CODEX WHEN?!?!

>>47235138
> I say that companies with a shit load of money can steal ideas that have been copyrighted and patent by another companies with no consequences what's ever
Capitalist pls go.

>>47235138
You're the one mistaking teenage cynicism for realism.

How fucked would i be if i built buildings from DoW1 and sold them on lets say, ebay?

>>47236260
I'm sure GW will reward your loyalty by raising prices 20% next year.

>>47236527
I'd like to say at worse, you'd get a cease and desist order. But knowing GW, you are better off not even doing that.

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>>47229329
Games Workshop was told by a judge that they hold absolutely no rights to the designs for their WHFB and 40K models because they are "game pieces" and as such are not copyrightable and would need to be established as trade dress (which would only protect the designs in the context of being part of the larger game), but they've been in the commons for 30+ years now, so they're staying.

That's why you got Age of Sigmar. And why this, while being a shitty example of art-on-commission-in-comic-books, is not going to draw any legal attention.

If they did try to sue Disney would just buy them out and shut them down because that would be cheaper than fending off the suit.

They're shit.

>>47232952
>implying there's anything good about GW now

>>47236922
Thank you for at least explaining it better.

>>47236922

>If they did try to sue Disney would just buy them out and shut them down

can we just have the first part?

>>47235063
>GW
>legitimate cooy right
Nope.

>>47229394
Disney has won some crazy unfair lawsuits in the past.

>>47236922
>>47237029
If that where to no happen, you gotta think: how would 40k/AoS people responed to shit like that?
Would it that mean like what happened to Star Wars? Would it mean that warhammer will be made in the good old US of A? in the since it'd given to an American company like Fantasy Flight?
Interesting stuff.

>>47229485
A game and a cameo appearance in a comic book are a bit different.

>>47229485
Dude a random anon and Disney Corp. are exactly the same?

>>47229329

what the fuck is that symbol on venom's back? IS it venom or just a swole polywhirl?

>>47237243
yes because their both count as people under the law, and both are fucking insane.

>>47229607
Get fucked, wheels.

>>47236922

That's not how copyright law works and you're retarded. The words "Imperial Guard" and "Space Marine" aren't copyrightable but GW owns all their models. Also you are retarded to think that buying an entire company is less than the pittance of settling out of court.

>>47236922
No quite true.
The judge did hold that GW did have legal claim over some of the things chapterhouse was using, things like the imperial Aquila or that tau symbol amongst them. So while perhaps the actual model itself isn't legally GW (it is by the way. Chapterhouse was protected under fair use. This isn't in any way shape or form.) the symbol certianly is. And GW won the argument VS chapter house over trademark infringement. Chpaterhouse was was protected because of fair use and GW failing to prove dilution, something that isn't applicable here.

>>47237029
>GW sues Disney
>Disney buys them out
>forces them to replace Age of Sigmar with Mickey Mouse game
>changes name of Tau to whatever the aliens in the Venom comic are called
>mandates that bolters now have weird triangular sign posts on top

>>47236922
Do you really think Disney would put in that much bullshit effort to defend a screenshot of a 3d model?

>>47230508
no, he did in fact not mean that.

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>>47229329
>mfw this is the end of the tau

Based Disney

>>47237364
its Venom: SPACE KNIGHT

>>47237445
Disney paid more for Touchstone than Games Workshop is currently worth, and got far less. Basically just Nightmare Before Christmas.

The merchandising rights to Fantasy and 40k movies and video games is far more lucrative than the models will ever be, in the right hands.

Get ready for your EA Games 40k and JJ Abrahms Fantasy.

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>>47237610
Ooh!
Also, your Hot Topic Warhammer logo shirts and belt buckles!

>>47231845
Holy fucking shit.

>>47232700
yes really

holy shit that is stupid

>>47238260
Its a comics event, what did you expect?

>>47238281
idk i dont pay attention to cape shit

but using legos is just wild.

>>47238330
Events used to be good.

But then they realized an event justifies all new issue #1's. Justifies a costume change.
New costume=variant figures. Issue #1 sells the most.

Everything in between is about having the craziest fucking thing in print, so EVERYONE buys one to check it out, maybe all three variant covers. Then again when ten issues come out in a trade paperback.

When you're running an event every two months, ideas run low and you end up calling in a lot of pinch-hitter artists and writers. That's not even going into the almost literal autism of the writers and editors who got the job through pure nepotism.

So comics become an absolute mess of insanity and shock value, like Tzeentch and Slaanesh writing Golden Books.

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>>47230607
/v/ has never been close with /tg/, ever. They occasionally come over here because they find /tg/ favorites (Dawn of War, Homeworld, XCOM, etc), but fa/tg/uys rarely go to /v/ because you can talk about /tg/ vidya games here, and /v/ is a shithole of a board. It's a largely one-sided affair.

/tg/'s closest boards have always been /co/ and /d/, infrequently /ck/, and formerly /x/.

>>47236922
Kind of irrelevant when the copyright material in question is a 3D model from a computer game not a physical model design.

>>47235138
Nigga unless that money is going to hitmen to murder the entire GW legal department this is a case that cannot be lost.

You're cynically naive.

>>47238563
I fucking hate skub

>>47238563
I like skub.

>>47229329
a Disney 40k buy out could actually be pretty cool, god knows the setting has gotten kind of stale.
You could have a Clone wars style series for a teenage audience focusing on the Horus Heresy. A more mature series focused on a Deathwatch kill team. Maybe even centre the movies around moving the actual plot forward.

>>47238563
We have a few /k/ommandos too. Best Star Wars RPing I have ever seen was actually on /k/.

I have been browsing /v/ for the past few days for reasons I am not entirely sure of, but I will attest that /pol/ is a far better board.

>>47231052
>within a few days
Probably within minutes with Civil War being out.

>>47229329
I'm frankly far more upset that they're using crappy CGI in a comic at all. That image doesn't even look like it's from a comic panel.

>>47232676
Gwenpool isn't a new development; she's the last stage of Joe Quesada's many-year plan to get rid of Spider-Girl, and make people forget she ever existed.
This is why she is shit; a better version of this character already existed.

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>>47229648
Why do people keep believing this despite all evidence to the contrary? Disney doesn't make everything family friendly. Freaking Starship Troopers is a Disney movie.

>>47233337
What are you talking about, sir? Red Skull isn't a Nazi, he's part of HYDRA! And HYDRA has nothing to do with Nazis! See, they wave two arms at the same time! And, in fact, World War 2 was fought against HYDRA, not any actual world powers! Nazis probably don't even exist - like mutants!

>>47237216
Well, I'm sure the new product would be exactly as shitty as the old product, but none of the old names would be around, and the consumers would just scapegoat them for all the problems and pretend it's SO MUCH BETTER. And also there'd probably be some crap about how '40k belongs to all of us', even when it's quite clearly owned by a bunch of bean-counters.
So yeah. Just like Star Wars.

>>47244380
How does cute girl Superboy Prime relate to Spider-Girl in any way? Especially when Quesada hasn't been editor and has been largely focused on adaptations instead of comics for five years before she was created?

>>47231839
>>47231845
Really. I think people are making too big deal about this.

>>47238563
also /his/ for traditionnal wargamers and historical RPGs

>>47237610
>Disney paid more for Touchstone
What are you talking about? Disney didn't buy Touchstone. Touchstone has always been a subdivision of Disney Studios.

>>47229329
First dozen times I saw this, I thought it was someone's shitty cartoon project for their degree or something.

I am now in awe of how fucking retarded that artist is.
Did he really fucking think he could so blatantly copy GW's shit?

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>>47230999
Amazing...that's just fucking great lol

>>47236922
>you hold no rights to something you invented
I hate to go /pol/ on you guys but I fucking hate kikes

>>47244420
Well, Nazis do explicitly exist in that movie, though amusingly a complete swastika is never shown.

>>47229394
Haha, no. Marvel's got an established pattern/defense for this.

It doesn't have to fire them, because technically, the artist doesn't work for Marvel.

>>47229739
In one of the early New 52 series, G.I. Combat, the art in the "The War that Time Forgot" series used 3D models for weapons.

>>47244950
What do they have to do with it?

>>47245192
what don't they have to do with it?

>>47231845
Gotta wonder, is this the same guy that blatantly traced movie Optimus Prime for some Fantastic Four robot and images of film and porn actresses for any female character? Kinda looks like it is but I'm not fully up on my terrible modern capeshit artists.

>>47245266
>images of film and porn actresses for any female character?
You're thinking Greg Land.
I think that Lego image was Larroca.

>>47230657
>>47230627
/v/ was pretty fucking hype from the trailer. it was adorable.

>>47230750
>ignore the evidence of your eyes
>believing truth is confirmation bias

Found the sociology freshman.

>>47234364

Was every possible angle and outcome examined in that one? Did you shitpost in that one, too?

>>47230660
You're not seriously comparing miniature wargaming to pen and paper roleplaying?
/tg/ is for discussing chess as well as rock, paper, scissors if you go strictly by definition, but it has about as much with each other to do as those two.

>>47237448
>dilution isn't applicable here

You can say that again. Quite the opposite, in fact.

>>47229522
>>47229329
>ripped assets from DoW
>pulled game files
>rendered separate
>oriented them how they want them
>traced them
How is this less effort than just fucking drawing something?

>TFW no artist intern can crank out basic perspective
>>47229329
>>47229471
>>47229522
>>47231845

Where the fuck are they getting these artists?
I'm fucking "self-taught" and even I don't need to resort to this fuckery.
This is worse than fucking webcomics

>>47244950

Citadel made plastic pieces for playing GW games. That's why they can't be trademarked in the UK - They're just gaming tokens in the eyes of the law, and no one can claim "rights" to plastic pawns. Even Jews.

>>47245854
So why aren't all the companies just recasting each other's models, instead of wasting money on making their own, because clearly it's legal.

Malekith.

>>47246473
That's an interesting question that I'd like to know the answer to. If the models aren't copyrightable at all, then why are all of the third party models 'totally-not-Space Marines' instead of actual Space Marines with the symbols shaved off? I mean, that would be completely legal by what you're saying.

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>>47229522
HE LITERALLY JUTS SELECTED THE CHASSIS AND SCALED IT UP without even TOUCHING the drones and door

how do people like this get paid to draw comics? I don't understand

This comic looks fucking horrible, I can't believe there are people who pay for basically garry's mod-tier shit.

>>47246999
Or why does GW keep shutting down chinaman, if their operation is legit.

>>47229522
>>47247075
I like how you see right through the Tau devilfish. It's like a hollywood prop.

What is this, Blazing Saddles?

Also, why is Venom in space?

>>47247253
There are people here who paid for finecast. Being a beaten wife is tough shit.

>>47246999

Models are protected by Copyright. But designs and concepts aren't always.

The way I see it the Chapter House thing related to Trademarks as well. And you basically can't Trademark something you don't yet sell.

Trademarks are use it or lose it. So if I own the Trademark "Space Marines" then fail to use it to sell I will eventually lose the right to use that Trademark.

If I write rules for a model then don't get off my arse and produce said model then I can't Trademark its name.

Similarly games like Space Hulk have to be re-released once in a while so that GW can retain the name as a Trademark.

That's also why the Imperial Guard are now Astra Milliwatt and so forth. Because "Imperial Guard" can't be Trademarked.

>>47242206
>the galaxy's only hope against tyranids chaos and everything is a multiracial teenage half tau agri-worlder out to prove that you too can magicaly succed in life, maybe even ork/human since no one will bother reading the fluff and-
>The orks don't talk like chavs anymore b/c tumblr will think it's racist
>slaneesh is the tickles god now too, and chaos incurtions happens only to white psykers
>khorne demons are gun wielding maniacs
>if ever tzeench is in the plot all of his plots are stupid and straightforward
>all the misery in the imperium is attributed to lack of welfare
>there is only war, yet it takes 3movies to see an army or a fleet. 3more to get a 5min long space/ground battle in a 2h movie then back to agri-boy
>Agri-boy is a awarded a chapter master power armor
>the emperor is not dead and regularly meet agry boy in person because every special snowflake is impotant

I'm not a robot
>neither are necrons, they look like skellingtons so it's necromancy powered exoarmor for them now

>>47247322
It was more that having rules for X doesn't give you blanker ownership of it across all mediums. The problem with chapterhouse was that they made models with the same name as the GW rules, so technically chapterhouse could have sued GW if they tries to make models with the same name. Just as GW could have sued chapterhouse if they tried to make rules for X.

>>47229503
Why does it even have a bolt magazine? And what the fuck is that retarded canister?

>>47247864
> Not wanting Shas'la Tatou'ine Luu'ke Skywalker attacking the necron Dark Star of Destruction
> Thanks to the technicus forma found by farseer Lehia Haut-Reganah
> Alongside Jek PORKins
> Only to be saved at the last minute by the shipmaster Hans Solitarius (or Solus?)
> Implying Dark Vador isn't already a necron lord.

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>>47238631
>cynically naive.
nigga, what?

>>47248515

It's when you're so pessimistic and cynical that it loops back around to a naive ignorance because you're so eager to believe the worst about everything that you start ignoring relevant information.

e.g. "Hmm, I bet if I filled this balloon with warm gas, it would rise!" "WHY THE FUCK WOULD ANYTHING NICE EVER HAPPEN, DIPSHIT."

It is super, super common on the internet, and especially 4chan, where giving a fuck is a mortal sin.

>>47245776
I don't think it was tracing, just a cheap, quick cel shader.

>>47247288
Because Bendis saw what Dan Abnett did with Cosmic Marvel and was like: PFFFT! Who cares about these Guardians of the Galaxy chumps! What the people really want is guys like Venom and the Thing and my waifu on that team!

>>47248360
if you're talking about the white thing on top, it's quite literally a sign to say
>Not boltpistol
also wtf, why is loaded with a grappling hook?

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>>47242206
STEEL YOURSELVES, FOR YOU MARCH AGAINST THE VILE CHAOS HORDES! YOU WILL SHOW NO FEAR! YOU WILL SHOW NO MERCY! FOR YOU ARE THE EMPEROR'S FURY!

Please keep your arms and legs the ride at all times. And remember, no flash photography.

>>47232791
so...is she a skellington?

>>47249110
She's like a 14 year old girl.

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>>47237550
What fantastic way to go

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>>47249974
15, I think.

>>47250262
>huge difference between 14 and 15

>>47231845
They really just don't give a fuck do they? This is why I was glad Dredd got one good film. The comics always play second fiddle to the $1 billion movies.

>>47250361
Dredd 2 would be pretty good though.

>>47229500
That is absolutely awful, the artist should be more than reprimanded.

>>47229575
Damn, now I notice the missile rack is also too small. It looks realistic in the smaller size, which I suppose is a bizarre advantage to this otherwise pointles act of incompetent thievery.

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>Agent: VENOM was actually really good.
>Venom: Space Knight started out great.
>Suddenly it eats shit.
>Suddenly this.

>>47230098
>>47229510
>>47229737
You know everyone else just calls it Disney, right?

>>47231268
you thought it was 40k? SWERVE its Age of sigmar!

>>47229329
The thing is that GW almost has to make a legal stink of this. Because of the way copyright and trademark law works, you have to challenge infringements or it weakens your claim on your IP.

>>47230607
/a/ is far removed from /tg/. /v/ is closer, but not as close as /co/.

>>47231022
Now I'm just picturing a horde of dancing Kroot conga'ing across the battlefield, with a leery Commissar holding his bolt pistol uncertainly and whispering "What fresh heresy is this?!"

>>47231414
The cancer has been in remission for a while now. You'd have never heard me say that a year ago, but it's true.

At the minute my board ranking is roughly as follows:

/tg/ > /co/ >> /v/ >>>> /a/

>>47232791
So the opposite of manga then.

>>47233024
Before the Thor movie came out I actually looked like that. Plebs coming up to me and saying hey THOR! lmao made me change my style.

As a rule, anything that depicts Thor as handsome or pretty, and/or prone to lulz, is sin.

>>47236078
I think that anon's view of the legal system is that of a typical freshman anti-capilast, but whatever.

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>>47250750
All the boards are shit.

/tg/'s curse is to not realize that it's just as shitty as all the other blue boards, including /a/ and /v/, and to act as if they're somehow superior. If /tg/ had a population on par with /v/, you wouldn't be able to tell the two apart if not for the different subject matter.

someone post the comic page

>>47247312
Beaten wives exist because their nature is to submit to the will of others easily and not resist attacks. What you're saying is that this character is very common, with which I would agree.

>>47250885
Don't browse 4chan.

>>47236922
That's not how intellectual property works. At all. Stop it.
Btw, your statement implies that recasters are perfectly legal. They aren't.

>>47247075
Probably just an intern tasked to do the backgrounds.

>>47235185
sure, if they think it's less then losing the case, and if they have a few tricks to get the case thrown out it might be a lot cheaper. This is Disney after all, the driver behind the current copyright term.

>>47250885

nah, it's turned out that with the Steven UNiverse haitus over /tg/ and /co/ are seeing an influx of old drawfags back to our boards - the dark of it seems to be that a load of them follow /sug/ to /trash/ and then found they could make a small killing drawing diaperfur stuff for old men and stayed in /trash/.

Tis a rennaisance I tells ya!

>>47229329

Here's what may or may not have happened.

'Chris' is an an illustrator -among other intetests-, and a huge 40k fan. Chris is bitter and hostile toward Games Workshop for whatever reason. He knows he'd be putting GW in a difficult position by putting a slice of their IP in a widely distributed comic. Chris supposedly hates the Tau faction, so used them specifically in the hopes GW will get soured on the Tau.

>>47252881
What the hell kind of backwards thinking is that? They're going to back down on defending their intellectual property because someone infringes heavily on it?

>>47254438
British laws force you to defend your IP or you lose the right to it or some shit.

>>47254548
How does that argue for them not defending their IP

>>47254679
I think he meant that it'd turn GW off of doing stuff with the Tau, and maybe push them to a back burner.

>>47245824
Try pushing a 30 pager in a week for 6 months straight, now, a decade after the golden age of comics is passed and main market is counted from profits of declining sales. Quickest and easiest way to make a page that looks passable wins. You simply can't afford to try to be the next Miller on your weeklies and monthlies with current rates and competition.

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Maybe it'll end up good. Disney/Marvel will settle out of court, GW doesn't retard itself up and proposes collab. Marvel buys out GW.

Year later we got competent, balanced codex for every army. New armies, end of UM wankery and Tau fetishes. R-rated graphic novel series. Movie coming up on the pipeline.

a man can dream...