Jumpchain CYOA Thread #806: Goodbye Entropy, Hello Cake Edition

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I have nothing clever to say, but i'm here first.

have a snek

>>46908556
So, with that being the reaction to a Messiah Bel, I'm guessing a Non-Messiah Overlord of Bel would be kind of a smite-on-sight kinda deal?

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What are some good jumps for shrinking
not yourself but other things
i know marvel and MCU let you get Pym particles in jump and DC,Arrowverse and Young Justice could let you learn from the Atom but I'm looking for a perk that not knowledge or tech acquired in jump

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>>46908556
Oh well, that's about what we'd expect, really. We'd be kind of freaked out if someone from another universe came and told us they were our son and to not genocide everyone because giving love and peace a chance is the only way to win against Chaos.

A messiah's work is never done, gah.

>>46908453
I listed the greatest examples I can think of in the other post but Dresden Files has entropomancy, which focuses and channels bad luck. Dresden used it to kill a vampire by fating a frozen turkey to drop from an airplane on it

>>46908597
Well, one big problem about Amazo Backup Memory is Young Justice Anon recently said it only works with scientific powers and the majority of probability manipulation seems to be supernatural in nature. Observer is...really hard to tell whether it's scientific or supernatural because of the primacy of the Azure and Boundary in Blazblue's metaphysics, which are essentially massive reservoirs of Seithr as well as the origin of life so it's really hard to say if Observation, an ability inherent to a mechanism that oversees this phenomena, would be able to be translated into tech. Guru and Mega-Bomb would be better bets but even the calibration of an entire probability manipulation ability/preprogrammed spell to that degree is itself a massive undertaking since few if any magic systems have that potential of complexity in the first place. Or Digitised Sorcery from Fate/Extra. Actually the Compounded Calculation Shard would be better due to the project's sheer complexity.

Even then there's no telling how long it could take to attain infinite precision, and this doesn't even get into questions of interchain metaphysics and jumps where time is a dragon.

Or a woman.

Or the invention of some asshole who likes making people fight in battle arenas.

Or an Outer God's dream

>>46908982
Harry Potter?

>>46908941
Pretty much.

Hope you're ready to punch God to death. Again.

Many times, considering his respawn timer.

>>46908556
I can work with that, thanks. Maybe point out the Megido Arc and other atrocities He's commited, or tell her about the truly good Gods in other universes? Sorry if I was being rude with the questions, by the way. Though I'm curious, why would YHVH react rashly to Messiah Bel? It's the same Great Will, right?

Applying evolution energy to 'domesticated' Grimm.

Thoughts on end result, and any other modification processes you'd want to apply.

>>46909079
Humanoid, sentient Grimm. It'd be interesting to see what kind of civilization and culture they would create. Actually, on that note, do we have perks that can grant them souls? That might help.

DROP IN: History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi, First Jump Build
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Age: 16 (Rolled 6)
Background: Drop In (1000)
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Dual Ki (1000, Could be assumed from Sei Dou Goitsu)
Weapons (1000)
Master’s Body (1000)
Hidden Weapons (950)
Probing Eye (800)
Speed and Agility (650)
Enhanced KI (500)
Sei Dou Goitsu (200)
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being an amnesiac with no other powers makes this an efficient first jump, as knowing nothing other than the skills and abilities provided therein means that i’d take to killing/training easier (having known nothing better)

So what does the Calamity Device in Bastion look like, how much damage does it do, and how does it do it. I recently purchased it, and can't find any information about it.

>>46909125
...did we just make Spiral Grimm?

>>46909157
*how does it do it?
I am just ruining the Asterisk Economy, aren't I?

>>46908987
>the invention of some asshole who likes making people fight in battle arenas.
Who's this? Sounds vaguely familiar but I can't place it.

>>46909157
Because it's never actually shown in the actual game - the entire thing is based around the aftermath of the Device's activation (post-sabotage).

but essentially, it destroyed almost everything in that section of the world - reducing portions of the world to floating islands, turning people to statues made of ash, exposing old tunnels that were located miles under the earth and turning those same tunnels into sky islands-

It's an Apocalypse Bomb essentially.

Towards the end of the game Rucks makes a cannon that works similarly. Nowhere near the same scale.

>>46909175
...oh dear, I-I think we did. Huh, that's a thing, now.

>>46909077
Keep in mind, the Arc is built in the future. Might want to save that line for SMT2.

Ostensibly, DS God and mainline YHVH are the same being. But in practice, one is relatively (key word here, remember God's Thunder) reasonable, while the other is a tyrant who while not malevolent simply does not care for humanity beyond their use to him.

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>>46908892
Looking pretty solid there snek

>>46908941
Put it this way: Originally the King of Bel entity was a being who ruled over the world, and God/YHVH/the Great Will shattered him into pieces which became other demons because...supreme demon overlord. Apparently in the game Abel has the same level cap as YHVH in SMT 2, to boot.

And before you ask the game does not clarify how he got along with Lucifer, but clearly he didn't think much of him considering he didn't give a crap about the lockdown either way.

>>46908982
Dresden Files (if you're a changeling with the Multiple Choice capstone and have a good Sidhe lineage) and Gargoyles (Fae Blooded).

>>46909077
Not sure and I might be wrong, but from what I understand the YHVHs you interact with in individual SMT games are part of the Great Will in the sense that organs are part of a human-the Will doesn't usually take a personal interest in them (and it's a plot point it DOES finally get mad at YHVH's shit in Final), it just sort of lets them manage the infinite multiverses on their own initiative.

And SMT 1 YHVH is a bit of an Old Testament hardass. In Nocturne Kagutsuchi, another aspect, said the Great Will once allowed free will to flourish and it led only to doom and ruin. So presumably, from his point of view you're about to screw things up for Him.

>>46909157
No idea, but it's implied the following is a smaller scale version of it

http://bastion.wikia.com/wiki/Calamity_Cannon

>>46909210
Xelor from Wakfu

>>46909175
>>46909125
>>46909079
You could have stopped this.

>>46909175
>use the TTGL clause to grant a Grimm spiral energy once every ten years

What else can we do. Grant it chakra?

So, just to be clear, this is is acceptable as an alternative to the Stand Supplement?
http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~dft29/Stand_Generator/Stand-Generation-Overdrive.html

>>46909236
>>46909228
Thank you.

>>46909285
It suffices, but good luck trying to build a good stand ability from some of the shit that wiki links to.

I kid ye not, apparently 'running and then sliding under obstacles' is a FUCKING SUPERPOWER.

>>46909285
Basically you can do whatever you want as long as you don't make up something like Gold Experience Requiem, Made in Heaven (which only worked because of Dio's bone and Pucci's specific Stand ability) or Love Train (which is powered by Jesus anyway)

>>46909323
>>46909332
I rolled this, and think it's pretty good:
Stand Name: Right Wing Death Squad
Stand Ability: [Almighty Absorbing Replication](http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Almighty_Absorbing_Replication)
Power - B
Speed - C
Range - B
Durability - E
Precision - A
Potential - B
Pretty good for a first roll?

>>46909421
See >>46909332 and read the post again.

>>46909421
Eh. Not fabulous enough.

I refuse to get involved in Stand Powerlevel Arguments.

>>46909421
>http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Almighty_Absorbing_Replication

You do realise that site lists powers like Double Omnipotence far beyond the scope of any canon Stand right?

>>46909421
Yeah. About that. If the power has the word almighty in it, Omnipotence is in the Associated Powers, and the page image is destroying the universe, it might be a bit much.

>>46909487
No seriously it's not as bad as some would make it out to be. It's usually all about compatibility. All Stands buffer than GER or King Crimson that defy that convention had an external, separate factor facillitating their development to that level.

>>46909557
Read my spoilers.

Not that anon, but how's this?
Stand Name: Godzilla

Stand Ability: [Foreign Material Manipulation](http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Foreign_Material_Manipulation)

Power - A

Speed - A

Range - B

Durability - C

Precision - A

Potential - D

Description: The ability to manipulate material not of the normal familiarity, this can include material of extra-dimensional origins, from different planets, originate from a divine plane, etc. Can be sometimes confused with some forms of Dark Matter Manipulation and other occasions Aether Manipulation. The user can create and control foreign material that does not exist in the familiar world. For example, being able to generate and control supernatural matter that can be used to i.e: defy physics or...

>>46909487
>>46909496
>>46909513
Meh, I'll keep it. I'm fairly self limiting anyways. I'm not planning on becoming God or whatever just by being handed power. That's not fun for me, at least. I'll use this for reality warpers or ghosts or something, if I have to fight some.

Thanks

>>46909624
Go ahead. Your chain, your fun.

Personally I find making custom powers actually helped somebody put one together which was all themed around language - specifically starting with Dovazul more fun, but it can be a pain in the ass. Go with what's good for you.

If Somefaggit is here I have a couple questions about the shapeshifter perks from Gunnerkrigg Court:
First, could we use it as a sort of bootstrapped healing factor to shapeshift our wounds close or to regrow severed limbs?
Second, can we transform into something like a swarm of wasps or does every part need to be physically connected?

Where can i get anti causality science? Trying to make Gungir with science.

>>46910218
Getting a spark in Girl Genius would probably help you

>>46910218
Blazblue

>>46910128
The capstone booster one definitely lets you do both of those, doing the wound closing with the non boosted version might cost you more blood at first, but can be a handy way to close wounds when you lack normal methods. As for the fully connected body parts so long as things are roughly close together direct... Connection or contact is not entirely necessary, though it is advised. This does mean the perk lets you do helsing style, 'blood back into my body' healing. Or just have some floating hands. If you are a swarm of bees though and some fly off then the smallest group dies. Not gonna say specific distances because the nature of that perk makes things weird, but if people cannot tell it is a swarm of bees it stops metaphysically holding those parts of you together.

>>46909618
I would limit it to a specific foreign material it does a specific thing balanced for the JoJo universe, also the stats are a little high aren't they?

>>46910374
Neat, thanks.

>>46910433
To be fair, I just rolled the stats. I couldn't really manipulate them. But yeah, probably should limit the foreign material. What do you recommend?

>>46910373
>parrotting ideas from people who know better than you without understanding them

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GOLDEN SUN - DARK DAWN (10)
--LOCATION--
Champa
--BACKGROUND--
Mage Adept (Jupiter) (900cp)
Male, 20yo
--ABILITIES--
•Alchemy Knowledge (800cp)
•Willpower
•Elemental Adept (Jupiter) (650cp)
•Cruel Rain (350cp)
•Light Adept (-250cp)
--ITEMS--
•Gold (-300cp) - 2000gp
--DRAWBACKS--
•Silent Protagonist (-100cp)
•Mimic Curse (0cp)

It would seem that I'm one again unable to talk. To make matters worse it would seem that every chest I come across is actually a mimic. Most aren't too hard to deal with, some require bit more effort. Apparently the world has gone through a dramatic change since just a few decade ago, luckily I wasn't around for that.

I didn't do much in terms against the main plot of this setting. I didn't feel the need to chase after Dark Adepts and the crazy stuff that goes on. I just personally explored as much the world I could. I hope my next trip is more eventful than this one.

Anyone know a good low power jump filled with jerks I can make better by being a bigger jerk?

>>46910373
You don't even know what an anti-causality weapon actually does, do you?

>>46910635
Blood Roar

>>46910704
He thinks it means the laws or reality cannot bully him anymore.

>>46910635
Terraformars

>>46910512
well think of a good fictional substance not available in a jump,cavorite for example imagine trapping someone in a net made of antigravity material. Imagine wrist and ankle bands of antigravity material helping you move things.
>>46910531
I literally don't know what or who you're talking about, I had looked up that universe myself in order to formulate my plan for the young justice jump.
>>46910704
I thought they were purely scientific conceptual weapons judging by what I read on the wiki and what it says on the jump.
>>46910724
I never said that.

>>46910635
RWBY, though you'd have to be a pretty big "jerk", and by jerk I mean a threat big enough to put Cinder and Salem's keikaku on hold.
>>46910759
That works.

>>46910759
I frankly couldn't care less what new horror you're about to unleash, but your pathetic attempt to start multiplayer bullshit has been neither forgotten nor forgiven.

>>46910850
I don't expect to be anytime soon but what does that have to do with anything happening now?

>>46910876
...you're really going to ask people to put the dots together for you? You are not known for your good ideas. ASA brought up Blazblue last thread in commenting on the probability tech stuff. You are, however, known for stealing ideas from other people for the sole purpose of petty oneupmanship.

Make sense?

>>46910929
listen I don't know what he's doing. I see his images I scroll down past them. Nothing that guy posts does anything but upset me.

How deadly is irradiated food and water to humans? Just curious about how likely I might die of Rad poisoning in Fallout.

I have a question about the Specialist perk tree in Evangelion (which I heard allows the construction of Angels/Evangeions)

Does anyone know if the things you create are default loyal to you? Or how you essentially make them post jump without the orange tang? Are they like mass production EVA's? Can I make angels rivaling the stronger ones seen in the show?
If I make an EVA do the companions I have pilot them have to have mental issues?

>>46910963
I envy him, then. I wish we all upsetted you that much and enough to leave for good.

>>46911021
You mean, just regular radiation? From what I understand it's a gradual thing-you don't instantly die but over the course of days or weeks the leukemia and stuff like teeth and hair falling out sets in, and based on the nuclear engineers that sometimes frequent these threads a bomb's fallout is apparently much worse than a reactor's fallout? Since Fallout is the aftermath of a nuclear war I imagine it'd be pretty intense

But then again you don't inevitably die of it in the game of course and there's medicines everywhere for it so it's hard to say where game mechanics end and actual setting lethality beings, really

>>46911021
So-so. Unless you're drinking ultra irradiated water or eating fish, you should be fine for the ten years in jump.
Riddled with cancer, yes, but also alive.

>>46910929
It's not a dick measuring competition. just because ASA said it last thread doesn't mean someone else can't mention it.
I know bancho doesn't have the best ideas sometimes, but you give him more shit than he deserves sometimes. Even he has sense enough to pass over the namefags he doesn't like, and he doesn't have the privilege of just filtering ASA, like you can. Just get over it, your salt isn't necessary or welcome.
>>46911021
It's pretty bad, depending on where you're going. Any prolonged exposure and you're going to want some resistance, whether it be rad-x or a resistance perk.

>>46911021
Every 200 rads give you an additional penalty from radiation poisoning. At 1000 rads you die. Radiated water gives 16 rads. Radiated food depends on the item, but it's usually much lower. Radiation isn't too hard to get rid of if you're careful, too. So make sure you've got clean water and you can ignore food issues, mostly.

>>46911079
Definitely not angels, just evangelions-and they needed bits of Adam to make the latter. If they could make angels they wouldn't have needed pilots.

No, they go berserk and that's why you need to wield metal on them/inside them, to keep them restrained.

You need the orange tang so-you probably gotta steal the Adam embryo to make more.

Hard to say; the MP series seems to run on more advanced systems than the regular EVA units considering they get up from being butchered with no problems.

You definitely can't make angels though.

And probably, it's kind of needed to synchronise with the things.

>>46911109
You had to have been there. He was much worse in the past, and drove off some people he didn't like.

>>46911145
really? The only people I didn't like are ASA and Val and they're both still here.

>>46911145
Been here since 238. I know how bad he is.
>>46911197
stop, you're just going to make things worse.

>>46911079
The things you create are definitely NOT loyal to you by default. You'll need to lobotomize them and lock them in cybernetic restraint suits just to keep them from killing you. They're honestly the worst idea for minions you could get. LCL is probably not required, though you'll need some sort of Angelic biomatter to clone them from. And you could make stronger ones, but I wouldn't risk it. And yeah, trauma is required unless you can come up with a much better control system. They're controlled by the souls of murdered mothers, if they're not piloted by their traumatized children they won't work. The base technology requires trauma.

>>46911145
Is it that I can't make angels with those perks alone and that I would need more science and Spirit/magic perks to make them? Or that it's not possibke flat out?

The metaphysical biology perk says I get the foundational knowledge to understand even angels and can manipulate the mechanics of the soul easier. So I assumed at least, later, much later in my chain, an angel should be possible.

>>46911250
The reason I asked if theres loyalty is because, well, thankfully theres a perk that guarentee's it for things that I bring to life or create myself called Shapers Authority from Evo search for eden.

>>46911253
I'd go with it just not being those perks alone. It would give the foundation, as the perk says, but to make something that powerful is going to take a lot of research on your own.

>>46911303
Yeah, definitely take that, then. Evangelions you create will know you're responsible for their existence, and they will not be happy with you.

>>46911341
Wait, what? I was hoping to create the eva's conciousness I can make a concious speel via necromancy from geneforge or maybe at least make those hulking ultra titans as host for my AI companion. If it involves literally harvesting mothers souls and shit I'll skip out on it, trying to be a Lawful Good jumper not a fucking monster.

>>46911423
Conscious Spell*

>>46911423
Well, you might be able to make a soul on your own. Even if you can, though, the Eva will still hate you. Theirs is a horrible existence. Maybe you could make a masochistic soul and that would work, but otherwise there's really no way to make an Evangelion without torturing someone. Your best bet is to create something entirely different starting from the same base science and branching off through independent research.

>>46911197
Why do you hate ASA? He's a voice of reason in this community, which is a freaking rare thing.

Didn't you say you're not delusional and understand the concept of people not being the same as their jumpers?

>>46911250
>>46911341
Not that anon, but it's important to note that the Eva and the mother are two different beings. While the mother may be in control of the body, the Eva itself has a limited sentience, given that Unit 01 absorbed Yui. So it's possible they might be sentient themselves. Also important to note is that Rei 1 is in Unit 00, or at least that's the theory given she has no real mother, so clones might count too.

>>46911512
yeah but he gets away with so much like being a multi-verse that wears another multi-verse as armor, no one else would ever try that because of the sheer amount of wank involved.

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>>46911423
Well also keep in mind a lot of those cybernetics and the 'Host the mother's soul' bit were control functions so the Eva didn't just go crazy and shit. So who's to say you need to do the same thing?

Now granted, SOMETHING needs to control them; the thing that separates Evas and Angels are that Evas are made without souls, so they're expressed via DNA. Plugging in a soul isn't going to instantly make it go berserk unless you're like, trying to rip out parts of its spine and stuff to put a cockpit in it.

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>>46911512
>bancho
>not delusional

>>46911539
Welcome to community favoritism.

>>46911539
He also explains himself. He's one of the few who takes the different fundamental realities thing about science seriously instead of just wanking it away.

What, are seriously just salty you don't get to be the strongest jumper? He's a nice guy otherwise.

>>46911423
Is there any point in making an Evangelion at that point?

Or is making a giant brainless monster capable of AT shaping require the whole 'I have no soul and I must scream'. Not to mention their diet.

>>46911494
Definitely gonna go that route, I just wanted cool hulkin titans. I never wanted sad I have no mouth and I must scream souls trapped in the shell of a cool looking mecha.

Probably gonna synthesize some vague being via crystal womb and my own personal device called the "Crucible" which was designed to allow unparalleled biological manipulation. I should be able to try and understand the basic of their weird biologies to create some cool monsters thanks to med-bio tinker shard and bioculptor shard

>>46911576
What are you even talking about?

>>46911532
Very true, and something I should have elaborated on. The reason why being the soul in an Eva is so awful is partly because of that feral Angelic sentience dwelling in it with you.

>>46911598
>He also explains himself
What? No he doesn't, have you read his pastebins?

He just throws a bunch of terms together and assumes because it's him, they work to 50000% effectiveness and catapult him with no repercussions. I may not like bancho and I don't like how he acts, but don't go saying that guy's without fault.

>>46911638
Well it involves being honest with ourselves for one.

It basically breaks down to one being the community sweetheart and the other being the redhead stepchild. You can probably assign names from there.

>>46911616
There...IS a way around that, actually. The Mass Produced Evangelions had two major differences between them and the piloted Evas: One, each possessed an S2 engine and a core, which not even Unit 01 had. This is why Asuka(And then Shinji and Asuka in the manga) couldn't kill them, the cores were still intact. Secondly, each had a more advanced Dummy Plug System, based around mentally retarded clones of Kaworu/Tabris, giving them a full Angel's sentience compared to even a normal Eva, though one that could be controlled. If you could replicate those, it might be possible.

>>46911690
...yes?

I legit don't remeber any "assumes because it's him" in them. You'll have to be more specific.

Oh boy. More namefag and personality drama.

>>46911768
Blame Tera.

>>46911690
He used to post pastebins in the thread and chat, dude. Multiple times. Wouldn't someone have called him out if he did make some oversight along those lines?

>>46911803
People have. People are right now and yet you see the result. Most people just stopped bothering to point out the problems after a while.

>>46911824
>He just throws a bunch of terms together and assumes because it's him, they work to 50000% effectiveness and catapult him with no repercussions

This doesn't sound like a very specific set of issues, anon. I looked over the archives for threads with the pastebins linked in them, I genuinely do not see much feedback in them at all.

>>46911692
I thought Red was the community sweetheart. Or is she the 'red'-headed stepchild? Didn't she used to post pastebins for her projects, actually?

>>46911803
...have you seen what happens when someone does that? People start bitching and throwing tantrums about bullying and "nerfs" and start coddling the other party. Of course no one's going to critique ASA, they'd risk turning the thread into another salt mine.

>>46911785
No I blame you fucks for propagating it. Whenever Tera doesn't start shit by himself, it's always an anon starting shit for / against him. Doesn't matter which personality, there's always several anons starting drama in or against their name.

>>46911803
Actually, I tried to call him out on going too far past what a Changeling Contract was capable of with a 'Contract of Perfection.'

His fanclub ate me alive.

>>46911738
Hmm, that helps out, but it still would weigh heavily on my heart to create mentally retarded clones of something just to fulfill my own prerogative.

The only time I ever did something close to that was create a really large Terraformar johj-like army via Blessing of Rahab to act as Skitter's attackforce. And even then, I HAD to do that, to make an army to millions wouldn't die in the Apokolyps drawback

>>46911862
I found the relevant thread. He did say he'd tone it down, dude.

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This thread is off to a flying start I see.

>>46911873
I think you're missing the point of the post. While he may have changed things, the mere fact that someone pointed it out made them get attacked by his fans. Why would anyone want to point out problems again if they just get attacked for it?

>>46911738
Normal Evangelions have cores, anon. You can see it in the scenes when their armor's been stripped off. The reason that the MP Evas didn't go down easily is because of the Dummy Plug. No pilot to receive feedback from the damage means they can take full advantage of their Angel-derived biology. Asuka wasn't fighting to destroy the cores because she assumed her opponents had pilots, and so could be taken down with sufficient trauma to the machine killing them. Also, the MP Evas probably still have souls in them. An Eva without a soul is non-viable and self-destructs. Maybe SEELE solved that problem, but I doubt it. What's nine more murdered women to them?

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Moooving on.

Assuming I've got Ensoul from Cardcaptor Sakura, the Abyssal Semblance from RWBY, some magic nodes I can place here and there to anchor ley lines to, and ye olde soul-transplanting instructions from Nechronica..

Would I be able to essentially "awaken" said magic nodes, allowing them to manage the flow of energy /and/ produce Grimm themed after themselves in times of need? Or would I need Metaphysical Biology from NGE, too?

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Didn't someone say they were thinking of doing Enter the Gungeon? I just want to know how's things coming along?

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>>46911868
Actually, I just looked it up, and I seem to have misremembered. The mentally retarded clone system was the one based off of Rei, the one used by the MPs is based off of his brainwaves. See the pic, which shows it being loaded in. Rei's system required either her or her clones.
>>46911977
Really? I don't remember that. Regardless, I'm almost positive the MPs didn't have souls inside them, except for the pathetic excuse for an Angel "soul".

>>46911982
I'm going to say yes. Abyssal on its own should give you sufficient knowledge of how to make a soulless magic being.

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>>46911977
>>46912018
So... here's my question. With Metaphysical Biology from NGE, 'That Undefinable Thing' from Tales of Symphonia, the books from Nechronica, and shit like Dark Souls letting you just bleed off spiritual energy in place of using souls in exchange for needing a lot more...

...what's stopping you from using the energy of your own soul to make a NEW, potentially blank soul and stuff THAT inside the Eva to make a morally sound method of granting them sentience? Hell, you could use Lord of Light's Karma Tanks to digitally transfer AI into the body as the 'personality' if you wanted to go all the way?

>>46911982
Don't see why not if the perks involved let themselves run on autopilot. Of course, the real problem is making sure they don't do something silly, like replicate endlessly or civil war amongst different nodes.

>>46912063
I'm not sure I get that reference.

>>46912182
Salt mine.

>>46912182
it's a salt mine dude

>>46912182
It's a salt mine.

>>46912164
Being mobbed by the crab bucket-like mentality of posters who don't bother to respond when someone posts their plans for feedback and then whine about not being listened to, apparently.

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>>46912182
I'm pretty sure that's all salt.

>>46912182
It's a salt mine. Anyway, thanks - that's one thing taken care of.

I have a question about Fallout how hard is it for a normal person to kill a deathclaw. I heard they can leap 15 meters towards someone and there was something about deathclaws being able to mimic talking like humans.

>>46912164
Well, I, uh...
...I mean, you'd still probably need an Angelic base like Tabris or something, I think, but that could work.

>>46912259
It's pretty hard without some heavy explosives or heavy duty weapons.

>>46912018
I admit it could honestly go either way. We don't actually have any information on their souls at all. And you can make good arguments for both directions, either that SEELE wouldn't want any souls in there because it could risk their control or that SEELE wouldn't bother to make a soulless version because they're confident they can control the scenario anyway. SEELE's mysterious, they could do pretty much anything and I'd say "yeah, that fits".

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>>46908854
>Goodbye Entropy, Hello Cake Edition

>>46912230
It's salt all the way down.

>>46912182
It’s a Salt mine exhibit in a museum.

>>46912292
How much heavy duty explosives and weapons?

>>46912164
The fact that the Angelic life form you've fused that mind to is filled with hate and rage. There's not just a human soul in there, there's a horrible pre-sentient monster that wants to kill everything. An Evangelion berserking isn't the human soul getting angry and trashing stuff, it's the human soul either losing control over the monster or deliberately unleashing it. If you want an Angelic bio-titan, you can have that. But you're going to have to start at the base level and build your own instead of just modifying Ikari and Akagi's work.

>>46912296
That's a fair point, actually. Actually, you know what I always wondered? Where did the prophecy come from? No, seriously, who would have that kind of knowledge? Whoever it was, they clearly provided enough information to clue SEELE in to the existence of the F.A.R., so who?

>>46912350
Like two RPGs can take one down, maybe up to four if it's a big one. Energy weapons from Pre-War can tear them up, but those are rare. Just try not to melee one, and if all possible avoid them.

>>46912164
I don't think I've ever shared the plan, but that's pretty much how I build all of my spiritual machinery.

Since I went Angel and dipped into the techie tree instead of buying it all, I can just tear off soul parts and put it in a container, and use tools to ensure it viably replicates certain forms of supernatural regeneration and endurance. Guilt free source of the best spiritual samples around, ready for shaping or forging, and it's self-replenishing.

Grey goo (Soul goo?) scenario is a serious danger though.

>>46912259
Well, they can peel apart personal tank armor like an orange and tank a minigun fire. Depending on which part of the country you are in they might be able to flashstep or burrow or even regenerate with radiation. Heavily mine the area, then snipe them with energy weapons.

The real question is how dumb an idea it is to use the Enclave control collars to lure Deathclaws and Tunnelers to bring down Caesar's Legion/The Institute/the Rival drawback.

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>>46912226
>mfw

>>46912273
>>46912362
>But you're going to have to start at the base level and build your own instead of just modifying Ikari and Akagi's work.
Well I thought that was obvious, but yeah in hindsight that's really worth repeating to start at the very base and work one's way up. Doing a "plug and play" for something like Evangelions were never, ever a good idea.

Plus building it from the ground up gives more control over the situation, which you kind of want when making a bio-titan to begin with. But yeah, I wholly admit I'm not exactly the grand expert when it comes to NGE. I always assumed it was sane to just study fucking EVERYTHING and start from scratch instead of relying solely on the research of people under World's Best Dad.

>>46912362
Hmm, at that point, could you perhaps communicate with the angel? Because Perfect Communication Skills says you're so good at influencing people that

"As long as it has the cognitive capability (even if only in theory) to comprehend something, you can not only communicate with and understand it, but manipulate it as well"

Seems like you COULD perhaps convice an angel to instead allign with the soul you put in it to do what you want, sorta like what Hohenheim did in FMAB

>>46912372
Supplemental materials (because so very little is actually explained in the series itself) say that the Dead Sea Scrolls are a piece of First Ancestral Race documentation that accompanied the Seeds of Life. Then some people came into contact with it, went crazy from interacting with a communications method meant for a more advanced species, and wound up interpreting it through the lens of religious revelation. The SEELE found out about it, pieced together what was true and what was insanity, and eventually found the original message.

>>46912435
Oh, well then, if you're doing your own work instead of building off an inherently flawed design, nothing would oppose that idea. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Yeah, if you actually know what you're doing with soul manipulation and crazy exotic biology, then making a sane "Evangelion" should be fine. Go nuts, Red.

>>46912435
Well, SEELE probably knows some shit, given that they know a lot more than they should about the First Ancestral Race, who created ADAM and Lilith. Actually, speaking of which, maybe ask Kaworu? I mean, he literally IS ADAM reborn, and she's the one who made most of the Angels we see, try asking him/her-
>>46912463
Or better yet, get your hands on those scrolls. Those things were made by the F.A.R.?! No wonder SEELE's been just as planning everyone so easily!

>>46912350
A fifty could do it. Otherwise, anything good for elephants would work in a pinch.

>>46912499
I just wanted to help the guy with his own plan, honestly. We get too many arguments lately, and while again, I'm no expert in NGE, I do kind of like the idea of using the Evangelion-style body for some kind of purpose outside of "slap a bunch of near-insane kids into it and shove their mother's souls in for good measure".

There are some things I'm hesitant about though, due to how beginning of thread went. I mean for example, Symbiote has 'Enhanced Body' which makes it so organs in your body are shrunk to half-size but are way more efficient. But at the same time... you can cut off pieces to replicate them, and the jump says the effects you bought stay with it. Then we get to the fact that the S2 engine is seen as an organ.

But it's kind of bullshit metaphysical, so how the fuck does one tell if it works on that or not?

>>46912509
Oh sure, I didn't say abandon their research entirely. Just that it's a horrible fucking idea to ONLY rely on it.

>>46912604
Hmm, this could just be me being stupid, but would Metaphysical Biology PhD. help with figuring the problem with the S2 engine out? Perhaps let you figure out how to go about your plan safely and successfully?

>>46912604
Might I add I was the anon who posted the questions concerning the Eva's and found your input most helpful. This also goes out to any of the other anons who helped me out with the EVA dilemma I was having. I very much appreciate it.

>>46912717
You're welcome, anon. Glad we could help.

>>46912717
Happy to help man. So, what's your plan now?

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>>46912664
Well it claims it'd help you figure out the biology of Angels, and since each Angel comes with an S2 engine... it'd help get some kind of understanding, I think? Not an instant fix, getting a sample somehow would be best I feel, but it'd help. I mean shit, that's WHY I grabbed it. Kind of makes me wish we had more jumps with soul anatomy perks though... ah well. Patience and all that.

>>46912717
Ah, not a problem! I do want to stress though, if anyone else has other critique then please weigh in their views as well. I'm not an expert, and I tend to lowball stuff as well so I'm hardly the end-all be-all viewpoint.

...actually. Zoids likewise has a perk which lets you understand Particle/Wave duality. While it's more for turning bullets into lasers and vice versa, I would imagine the knowledge would at least help somewhat understand Evangelions a tiny bit too. A little. It's different physics, hence why I feel only a tiny bit.

But every little bit counts, right? That's only because I end up fearing for my projects that relying on a single perk runs the risk of pic related.

>>46911903
Part of it is that you're probably a self-righteous asshole, considering you call people a 'fanclub' I don't have any confidence that the reaction isn't significantly your own fault.

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Right, so. Another question.

Which Final Fantasy was it that let you introduce magic wherever you went?

>>46912892
>that pic
Oh come on. Screencapping FSTDT is like stealing candy from a baby.

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>>46912892
>dat pic
...

>>46912865
Most likely ditching the titan idea for a bit, at least until I understand the base mechanics of angel biology.

Via Med Tinker shard Fran, a Shaper sharded Kujira Kurokami, and me using Path to Victory, we create the "Crucible" which thanks to Hydra is an amalgum of scanning and bio-rearranging tech. Also thanks to starri tech notes it incorpates stuff like "structural analysis",my Physiomancy from shadow ops, and the "Unbelievably Malleable" stem-like cells from the crystal womb worms fro evo search for eden.

With it, I plan to hopefully grasp at the biologies of the angels/evas, and see if I can bio-fab them with the crucible, using our roach army as tests on biological tissue. Work from the ground up, make my own system instead of using a broken one like the thread advised earlier.

>>46912940
Sigmar is a shit.
Mork and Gork are the best.

>>46912940
FF6, the one with Magitek Mastery.

>>46912940
FF6... technically.

>Magitek Mastery (600) (Discount Magiteknician)
>In essence, magitek is simply the use of magical energies as a power and fuel source for technology. Your understanding of that outstrips anyone elses, and you can now apply this principle to any technology you own. By altering your devices to use something magical in nature, such as a magicite stone, an enchanted item, or just raw magical energy, you can enhance it in every single way and give it unique properties. A suit of armor would become much harder, lighter, and more agile than before, perhaps even boosting the physical abilities of the wearer in line with the magical power source. From there, the armor could make more esoteric uses of the magic, such as casting spells on its own based around the sort of magic infused into it automatically or at the wearer's prompting. This isn't some measly effect restricted to the mundane or basic, no, magic can infused into any sort of technological device to enhance its functionality and give it a partially magical nature and powers. Even life may be infused with magitek technology like this, not only as cybernetics but directly as well. In this situation, it behaves a bit differently. The magic integrates itself into their body, becoming a natural part of them, allowing them access to that magic system and enhancing them physically, but they must grow into it. They start at a much weaker level, where they have to practice and develop their connection to this magic to realize it fully. There's no upper limit to them beyond what the magic's system is capable of, but it can take time, and you can instead choose to infuse living things with a larger amount of magic to grant them greater magical ability much more quickly. Unfortunately, this can have dangerous side effects, as giving them too much to handle at once can lead to mental instability or even insanity, the severity rapidly scaling upwards the more initial energy put in.

>>46912940
In addition to the Magitech Mastery from FF6 that others have brought up letting you introduce magic on an individual scale, Crystal Chronicles and FF14 both have scenario rewards that let you introduce magic on a global scale.

Would shifting into my Shrek Ogre Form and going all shrek-is-love-meme on Dolores Umbridge be too much? Is that crossing some sort of horizon?

>>46913106
Well, she already gets raped by centaurs, so it's not much worse than what would happen to her anyway. The question is whether you're comfortable with knowing you've done that.

>>46913106
>going all shrek-is-love-meme
Hell no! Anon why would you-
>on Dolores Umbridge
-I, uhh, I mean why would you not go further!

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>>46913106
Yes.

If you're going to defy her? To humiliate her? To defeat her? Be the better man about it. Don't bring yourself down to her level.

Then your victory will be all the more complete.

>>46913106
If you develop your smug glare, you should be able to scare the crap out of her as it is, because you know her fate. So if you let her know you know her fate, that you know something she doesn't, she'll be shitting bricks. Be the bigger man, think, what would jumpchan wanna see?
Wait dont answer that.

>>46913189
Sigh. I suppose you're right...

It's just... It's so much harder to leave them a gibbering and broken husk that way.

>>46913106
You don't want to send her away quickly, because then you'd lose access.
You want to draw it out. Really make her suffer.

Which is why I started by having progressively larger birds shit on her desk every morning. Up to and including large theropods.

>>46913189
Unrelated, but why in sam hell is that candle attractive.

>>46913274
Oh come now, surely you can come up with some ways to fuck with her that don't involve going into OGREdrive.

You could…
>lace her food and drink with various hallucinogens, or stuff that will make her break out in a rash or boils
>rearrange the furniture in her private room/office every time she leaves
>haunt her nightmares and give her terrifying visions of her future, or even better, your past

The world is your oyster, anon. Seize the day!

>>46913384
Three words: Magic. Pot. Brownies.

>>46913384
Not the anon, but you could give the curse of the shadowhog from invader zim, the ultimate horror.

Also you could make shoggoths, shoggoths are scary too, I guess.

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So, are the Egyptian gods open for Job Offers in Dresden? Specifically wondering about Sobek and Wadjet.

>>46913309
>started by having progressively larger birds shit on her desk every morning.

Okay, that got a grin out of me.

>>46913384
>ways to fuck with her that don't involve going into OGREdrive.

She just enrages me so much. These are all good ideas, though I haven't invested in nearly as much fucking-around-ery as I should like.

>>46913425
now that raises a question, where in the chain can we get magic pot? The only thing I can think of is the "special spice" from scooby doo.

>>46913355
anthropomorphism and boobs. Also good art work.

Could I use my acquired Psyker powers while at the Kannonball Run?

>>46913355
Because candles are hot, Anon.
You big silly, everyone knows that!

>>46913811
Probably Toriko.
I'd be surprised if super pot DIDN'T exist.

>>46913451
I don't see why not.

>>46913891
By wrecking and/or sabotaging other orks kars but that just might make the race more deadly. Especially if there are weirdboyz involved.

>>46913891
What I really want to know is, can I use them in the Squat train game.

>>46914051
I don't see why you couldn't. In my case, I don't know enough about 40K to feel safe judging whether Psyker Powers work while surrounded by the energy of the Waagh field.

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Has anyone claimed Lacuna: The Creation of the Mystery and the Girl From Blue City?

I have some ideas. Some dangerous, wonderful ideas. I'd say more, but a big part of the setting is dependent on the unknown and paranoia. Waiting on dropping the bigger details until I have it properly written out, to be taken in all at once, would probably be for the best.

The gist of the setting is that teams of "Mystery Agents" techno-psychically project into the minds of criminals and beat the shit out of "Hostile Personalities," which cures antisocial tendencies with a minimum of collateral on the rest of the individual's personality. Key word, minimum. This process has become a key part of the penal system for serious offenders (murderers, rapists), even though not everything about the dive tech is well understood. Blue City, for example, which seems to be a collective unconscious with distinct inhabitants of its own. Some friendly, some not.

Is there any interest?

>>46914408
Nope, all yours. I have no idea what it is, but your description sounds interesting.

In Young Justice could you reverse engineer the Shields and try to get rid of the aggression in order to let Superboy (or yourself and/or Half-Kryptonian companions) use his(/your/their) power to the fullest?

>>46914639
What's their mechanism of action?

>>46914654
Supposedly it suppresses his human DNA despite just being a patch he slaps on.

Comic book super (pseudo) science!

>>46914703
Then under any normal logic the aggression is something you should be able to avoid. I mean, Superman isn't a ragebeast unless it's the movie version.

>>46914715
That seems like a sound argument to me.

Now I just need to either figure out how to do it permanently, make them last much longer, or make a little machine to swap them out every hour.

And actually make more of them myself, of course.

>>46913355
Its truly radiant in that dress

>>46914753
If you want him to be a full kryptonian without the need of sheilds, you could always just make him a pure kryptonian via Aggressive genetic mutation in Invader Zim. Get some Superman DNA, stick it in Superboy and watch as the perk does all the work and invasively overwrite his DNA to be a Kryptonian. Also watch Lex shit his pants when he finds out you could do something he went years still being unable to do it

I'm going to be going through Young Justice and updating things to account for all the rulings I've made (mostly for Amazo's Backup Memory), as well as to lower the price of some of the options (Immortality, Vehicle, Batman's Real Superpower) to be more appealing. I'm also going to be adding a new companion option for a project Cadmus clone of yourself (suitably weakened, like Superboy is in comparison to Superman), and replacing the boring "lose all of your powers" drawback with one based off of Match.

This shouldn't affect anyone's builds unless they decide to go for the new companion option or one of the lowered price options, since I'm not going to be raising the price of anything, nor will I be changing the descriptions of anything in a way that would radically change how it works.

Are there any other clarifications/questions that I should answer, aside from the ones regarding Amazo's Backup Memory?

Does anyone know what breaths you can unlock in the From Dust jump in the Breath scenario besides the five you start with? What I mean is, when everything resets, what other breaths can I gain?

>>46915274
Do you look like a mini powerless Doomsday when the Team find you if you take JUMPCHAN! And the Doomsday discount on Hybrids? Same for Bizarro.

>>46915416
In that case, I'd say that you'd look like a 10 year old Clark Kent, but with the aggression/reduced mental capabilities of the Doomsday/Bizarro carrying over to either form. Your "adult" form would look like Doomsday/Bizarro.

>>46915461
Ok then. Mini Doomsday would have been funnier but that's OK.

>>46913309
>mfw Umbridge walks into class and finds her desk buried in a giant pile of hippogriff manure

Oh me, yes.

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>>46916282
>Umbridge can't figure out how this keeps happening
>Decides to turn up early to catch the perpetrator in the act
>Walks into classroom several hours early
>Finds T Rex squatting over her desk
>Umbridge looks at T Rex
>T Rex looks at Umbridge
>Awkward staredown ensues
>Awkward stare time continues
>T Rex suddenly takes giant dump, shuffles out a door that appears behind it
>Door disappears
>Umbridge's face when

>>46916333
And thanks to the magic of expansion charms and secret corridors, you can keep making bigger and bigger things to take a steaming dump all over her desk.

Snape might even appreciate it when it comes to dragon dung, I'm sure that's useful for potion ingredients.

>>46915274
Just out of curiosity, how many miles away can you hear things with Super Senses hearing, and how much further can you hear with extra purchases? How many times do you need to buy it to hear whispers from long distances?

Pretty much the same question again but with Sight, or is it effective as long as you have line of sight, with other purchases if you wanted to see further with X-ray vision or infrared? Or see the moon with clarity from earth or something.

>>46916666
For hearing, I'd say around 5 miles, with each additional purchase adding around another 5 miles of "coverage". Whispers you would stop being able to hear at around the 3~4 mile range, so at around that level for each purchase would be where you stop hearing whispers, (8~9 for the second purchase, 13~14 for the third, etc.) with you being able to hear pretty much everything above a whisper in the miles before that. Sight is a bit harder to quantify, but at the first level you would be able to see things at a microscopic level when you're holding it directly in front of your face, and still be able to make out fine details (like writing) at around 100 miles. Things increase from there, and because of how eyes work you're going to be able to see things much better at any distance- while you might not be able to make out celestial objects from outside of our solar system, for example, you could probably spot, say, Neptune in the night sky, and see much more than other people can with the naked eye.

Here we go, a Fountain build.

Jump #558, The Fountain
Age: 2+(3*8)=26

Roadblocks:
Naught But A Man (+600)
Let's do this one without powers, as this is as much an internal journey as an external one.
They do not Understand (+200)
They wouldn't believe me anyway.

Total CP: 1800

Natures
The Past: Explorer. Our past self will be a male trader, travelling between towns or crossing oceans. Our future self will bestow on us "Time Apart". It's not great but it will do.

The present: Seeker of Wonder. Let's go for a female antiquities student in this time. To help that facet of us out, our future self will share 'Sense of the Then' and 'Sense of the Now' with our earlier self.

The Future: Witness. We travel to document the life and times we find ourselves in.

Stolen Moments (0/1800)
Sense of the Now (100/1700)
Sense of the Soon (200/1500)
Sense of the Then (300/1200)
Composure (100/1100)
Time Apart (200/900)
Time out of Mind (400/500)
500 Years of Practice (Programming) (200/300)
All Together Now (100/200)

Baggage of the Past (0/200)
The Chains of the Present (0/200)
Meditation Garden (0/200
Bio-ship (200/0)

>>46917457
Build notes:
Didn't take Perfect Time or most of the Physicality perks as we've got others that do similar, and I'm hoping they won't be vital in this jump.
Opted for All Together Now because I already have perks which retain my sense of self, so even as I'm incorporating new personalities into the gestalt, that gestalt stays "me". Perhaps it was always "me"?
It was intensely tempting to pick the Book of What Was, but I've sworn myself off of altering my own timeline as a temptation that might be deletrous to indulge in, both immediately and further down the track as a gateway to wholesale temporal/causality manipulation. That kind of thing has a habit of spiralling out of control, from what we've seen.
The wording of the naught But A Man drawback seems to imply we don't lose our perks so long as they're not super-whatever in nature, so stuff like bravery, martial arts training, smarts, and physical condition up to human maximums seem to be acceptable.
Not entirely sure what I'll do, but muddling through is something I'm good at and I've done similar jobs before.

>Notes to SJ-chan:
1) The Physicality perk "Perfect Health" I think has a typo and should be 400cp, not 600cp, unless Physicality is meant to have two perks at 600 and none at 400?
2) Good to see you stuck around.

>>46917409
That's really good. Thanks.

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>>46911824
>>46911690
>He just throws a bunch of terms together and assumes because it's him, they work to 50000% effectiveness and catapult him with no repercussions.
>because it's him
>50000% effectiveness

I am outraged to the point I don't have an insult bad enough to call you by for this occasion.

But to condense my retort: Has it ever occured to you if I GENUINELY thought like that, I wouldn't BOTHER to waste hours of my time planning this shit out in a logical progression of events? I know I'm not infalliable and I don't get across my point well sometimes. But if I didn't care at all, I would just take a single perk and wank that it wins forever, rather than have it work in synergy with a bunch of other assorted doodads from across the chain and beyond.

But don't take my word for it. Here: Every relevant pastebin I've ever written.

Kindly point out exactly which parts make no sense, smack of hubris or lack coherency. Bear in mind the SMT ones were written with an extremely favorable bargaining position due to jump events and no OOC outside guidance after I asked for some.

Bonus points if you find the phrases "50000% effectiveness" and "because it's him" in the plans somewhere because I very much remember NOT making these assumptions.

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You want to know what the most frustrating part is? A while ago people stopped giving feedback entirely, when prior I was COMPLETELY okay with taking it into consideration, possibly because of what others have beought up. You are effectively blaming me for something that's completely beyond my control; I can't very well use feedback that doesn't exist can I? And more to the point-I HAVE asked for feedback from both chat and thread, taken it on board and implemented it in the past when FEEDBACK WAS ACTUALLY GIVEN. I completely reject the assertion I ever outright ignored any of it.

>>46911858
>>46911862
But in the spirit of not having whatever happened to you guys happen again I'd like to extend a request for constructive criticism NOT to be shouted, assuming there is in fact any to be offered. I personally think it's better to get it out in the open than stew in resentment and end up with the presumption I don't care about it at all.

141. Avernum
Location: Off The Map
Origin: Drop-In, Race: "Human"
Perks: Artifice (-150), Crystal Magic (-300), Magic (-100), Magical Barriers (-300), Natural Mage (-600)
Items: Cash (-50), Map of Avernum
Drawbacks: Amnesia (+200), The Empire's Eyes (+300)

This jump seems to have some minor formatting issues.

I arrived with a bucket of chicken in my hand, and I am in a whole in the ground. That's about all I know. Also, there's is a spider here and they seem to think I'm the most adorable thing. I'm not sure if that's true, but it's nice to hear. I think the spider is the most adorable thing and it seems to love that idea. The stalagmites think the stalactites are the most adorable, and that's why they rise up to meet them. I disagree, but they take no offense. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

This is all interrupted by an angry demon attacking us. It doesn't take long to kill, because I am made of lightning and my will can sever flesh. That was nice to learn and I feel much safer now. Spider says we should eat bugs, but I decide to finish my chicken first.

I wander for many days and eventually do eat bugs, and Spider is happy to accompany me. Caves don't feel strange, and I am told that I am the tallest of the rats. The rats don't seem to like me much though, at least at first. But I am persuasive to tiny creatures and can talk to them much better than Spider can. It's not long before I have countless of them following me, and I do help them cooperate rather than compete. I even change some of them so that they are bigger and smarter and can speak to Spider. And they fight alongside me as we make our way through the underworld. We need constant supplies of food and water and often have to fight for them. The humans are the best fighters, and often have the most food. The lizards are a close second, and are tastier than people. Like chicken. The Nephilim are bastards, but a bug in the heads of most rats makes us like them too much to eat them.

*shouted at

>>46915409
From what I recall the 5 breaths and the ones in teh scenario are pretty much all the ones there are.

>>46917555
Feedback on what? Just asking, I tend to skip most of the threads when shitposting happens or shit discussion about who is the love child of Cthulhu and Darkseid (This is just a metaphor, ok. No need to go all let's burning anon at the stake, ok?)

>>46917656
Basically, if everything I wrote makes sense in relation to what I said it would be capable of, bearing in mind I acknowledge there's a lot of stuff I can't know for sure because some of these haven't been ever attempted, so whether the stuff I mentioned could plausibly lead to those outcomes in that case.

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>>46917547
Odds are they're just baiting, but, um, thanks for the thought experiment pastebins.

>>46917680
I was just asking about the jump you are making but ok????
Though if that is the case, then it is in the fanwank territory. That why it is why jump is a single player experience. I think, I may be dumb.

>>46917725
Oh shit, my bad-no I'm not making a jump, these are just some combinations of powers and resources from other jumps I put together ages ago to put into effect certain outcomes as detailed within

It is indeed a single player experience but I've personally always looked at how things work for me personally with a certain logical progression of interactions instead of handwaving everything to instantly win like what the other guy was claiming-and being accused of such is what galls me

>>46917700
Ugh, I regret this already. If they are, I at least hope this gives them no ground to stand on to try it again in the future. On the off chance they aren't, I want to make it clear their assumptions of me are completely off-base.

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>>46917763
>instead of handwaving everything to instantly win like what the other guy was claiming
It was either that or fanwanking the enemy to be so powerful that nobody can defeat them even with 250 +++ perks. There is no way to satisfy everyone. At least you try and it shows. Take Heart in that.

Project Cadmus Clone: Project Cadmus cloned you, in secret, in case you ever needed to be destroyed or replaced. Luckily, your clone was released with Superboy (and yourself, if you are a Human-Kryptonian hybrid) before he/she could be programmed to suit the Light’s needs. He/she has all of your powers and abilities at around 1/10th of your power, and although he/she lacks your skills and knowledge beyond the basics of how to function your clone is a quick learner. Your clone’s appearance and personality are up to you, though they probably look like a younger version of you. They’ll treat you like an older sibling, or possibly a parent- in any case they recognize your seniority and experience and act accordingly. If you yourself are a clone as a result of becoming a Human-Kryptonian Hybrid, your clone will still look like you. (600 CP)

Thoughts?

>>46918218
Should be at least 800cp, but it otherwise seems good.

>>46918218
Eh, I'd rather the clone just had only all the powers you buy in the jump at normal capacity than try to figure out how on earth Cadmus cloned a Stand into them. Maybe give the clone the option of taking drawbacks too?

>>46918244
>Clone gets clone powers
>CLONECEPTION

>>46918218
Sounds good, I take it this is an undiscounted option?

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>>46918240
That price sounds better, yeah.

>>46918244
I mean, I know at least a few people became Half-Kryptonian Mystics, which probably means that some wizard contributed, willingly or not, their DNA to your creation, so spiritual/magical abilities aren't out of the question. I don't even want to think about the logistics of how a Half-Kryptonian Mystic who bought Chaos/Order magic was created.

>>46918281
Funnily enough, I replaced the "lose your powers" drawback with one where you get a hostile, Doomsday style clone of yourself. So you could be a clone of Superman, have a clone of yourself, and have your clone have a clone of himself. That being said, I probably won't give the clone points to spend, or allow it to take drawbacks.

>>46918304
Yes.

>>46918240
I feel like 800 CP is a bit much when your clone is only 10% of your power. Then again, I take YJ early rather than when I'm ready to fight Darkseid. Maybe adjust the scaling so they're as strong as you are or about as strong as your average Young Justice Member, whichever is less?

>>46918327
Can you choose who your human donor is? Also can we get the option for blond hair for male Half Kryptonian? So instead of our DNA coming from Superman it would be from Supergirl or Powergirl (I assume they're a thing in YJ).

>>46918604
I think I'm going to have the price be 800CP, but have powers that you purchase in Jump be at full strength for your clone. I might also make it so that he/she gets new abilities at 1/10th their strength as you get them, but I'm not so sure about that.

>>46918675
I wouldn't I tried something once and it really got people upset

>>46918675
Why not model it after little sister in Slice of Life? They gain a good percentage of your powers.

>>46918675
I'd rather you not include the new abilities thing. For SoL it was done at a time when the divide between CYOA and jumpw as a lot vaguer and it seems too meta a thing to be offered, just focus on what defines the setting rather than all this interjump meta stuff.

I would honestly be fine with just a clone with full strength powers from the jump and nothing else.

>>46917547

As someone who is trying to get more savvy about how seasoned Jumpers chain all of their perks and skills together to actually DO intriguing or fantastic (or insane) things beyond their obvious uses, I found the writeups useful.

While I can't say that I'm bright enough to follow or understand everything at a first glance, the SAS girls and Kaleid Hero Style were particularly of interest to me.

Thanks for posting them.

>>46918675
Sounds good, really.

>>46918675
>Essentially giving a free import into every single jump after
Yeah, maybe not.

>>46918690
>>46918719
Poppycock, we have several perks like this nobody bitches at.

>>46918665
They aren't, at least from what we've seen/heard in the two seasons/comics/game that we have. And yeah, male Hybrids can have blond hair. As for the human donor I don't see why not.

>>46918690
>something
That doesn't really explain anything; what did you do that got people upset?

>>46918700
>>46918719
>>46918737
>>46918750
>>46918752
After mulling it over a little bit more, I think I'll make it so that the price is in the 600~800 range, existing powers are at 1/10th strength, with powers purchased in this Jump at full strength, and no updating of powers afterwards.

>>46918675
Oh, you could add the Bio-suit stuff for Martians and shapeshifters to use. On that note, a Stealth or Winter costume transformation to the Costume item, since it looks like Alternate Costumes are actually different outfits.

If it wasn't for the Agent for Shields I'd say a shields item would be cool, but the only way that would work is if it's incompatible with the drawback.

Also, does Vehicle allow for things like the motorbikes that can split into a drone and a unicycle? That was cool.

Companions do get the stipends right? Vigilante Companions get 300 extra to spend on items, while Superhumans get it for Super Powers?

>>46918752
>bitches

From an earlier time, when standards were different. My argument is based on the fact that it goes beyond the scope of what's thematic for the setting, yours is solely based on interjump balance.

>>46918763
That sounds like a reasonable compromise though, I can accept that.

Suggestion: 600 CP for a version of the clone with only in-jump powers, 800 CP range for having all your preexisting powers at 1/10 strength? More options, more fun!

>>46918763
If you're also making it so that they get everything in the jump at full power, you should definitely make it at least 800cp.

>>46918775
Or this.

>>46918780
>so that they get everything in the jump at full power,
Pretty sure it's everything you purchase in the jump, not everything in the jump.

>>46918763
I think Bancho is referring to an item import in the Infinicon jump which can duplicate any artifact from any example of fiction whatsoever with a wholly arbitrary softcap that didn't really diminish the item at all.

>>46918803
Yes, that. My bad.

>>46918803
(Which, given they're taking 800CP out of your budget, is likely to not be all that much)

>>46918807
You sure it wasn't the perk that let you learn any martial art from any piece of fiction, from the Fist of the North Star to Sidereal Martial Arts?

>>46918775
>From an earlier time
I don't remember anyone objecting to Hivemind from Libromancer.

>>46918780
I don't think you realize if you make them 800 CP you only have 200 CP without drawbacks for powers. Even if you max out on drawbacks, that's still 800 for 1200, which is a pretty lousy ratio.

>>46918813
Can't you get up to 3000cp though? Potentially getting 2200cp of stuff is a lot.

>>46918831
It's 800 for 2200 anon.

>>46918818
That was in PS238. InfiniCon had a genuine knock off of any item that's limited to no more powerful than "Ironman's armor". Which considering some his armor are pretty powerful, that's not much a limit.

>>46918763
I included an option to have Cecil Holmes retain his gimmick if you paid for him as a companion. And since his gimmick is acquiring super equipment or mutations via dimensional travel he was essentially a companion who gained new powers as he traveled with you

>>46918840
I don't see how it not being in Infinicon has anything to do with the current subject.

>>46918831
Plus it seems to be powers&abilities only, so no item copies.

>>46918218
Your clone’s appearance and personality are up to you.

>Scientist #1: So that's the clone of Anon?
>Scientist #2: Yeah, that's the one.
>Scientist #3: But it looks like a Swedish supermodel.
>Scientist #2: Yep.
>Scientist #1: Uh, isn't Anon a dude? And built like a Mack truck?
>Scientist #2: Yep. They had to sedate the head researcher.
>Scientist #3. I heard the petri dishes grew tentacles.

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>>46918850
See
>>46918807
>>46918818

>>46918818
To be fair those are abilities you gain, rather than something with an independent existence of their own

>>46918845
Nevermind, it seems I was wrong, he was just wanking his shota(?) waifu(??)

>>46918829
You and I remember Libriomancer jump's development very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very differently then. People were objecting to a lot of things especially during the course of the jumpmaker's conduct. I wouldn't be surprised if it was overlooked from people being sick of critiquing it to no avail. In any case I would point out there's a nuanced difference between an ability that lets you clone yourself (like the capstone from Teen Titans too) and a companion with all those boons (and the potential to gain even more from imports) but I feel disincentivised to elaborate on them with you when you seem to be grasping at straws.

>>46918872
I repeat my question, people were pointing out the various options Bancho had that involved other jumps from the one they were in, it wasn't just talking about Infinicon and indeed, Bancho himself talks about PS238.

Also- what the hell does batman have to do with this?

>>46918719
You can't really decide for all of us what's acceptable and where the imaginary line is.

>>46918807
I should set a more specific benchmark for that, putting it on my to do list after space monkeys.
>>46918818
you know if you choose Sidereal Martial Arts It only gets you the martial arts right? It doesn't exalt you or grant you access to any charms you'll simply be able to move, think, and breathe like a mortal who has been instructed in Sidereal Martial Arts by a Sidereal exalted right ?
>>46918877
don't be gross anonymous, also phrasing!

>>46918773
Bio-Suit I actually just put in, but I forgot about the camouflage modes that they had so I'll put those in as well.

As for the Vehicle, that seems reasonable. The description says "normal" vehicle but that was really just so someone wouldn't get the idea that they could buy a Martian Bio-Ship for that low price, or a ship with lightspeed, or their own War-World or something like that.

As for companions, they do not get a stipend like you do, beyond the 200~800 CP you get for importing/creating them.

>>46918901
Stop talking Tera.

>>46918894
That's probably why they prefaced every line with "I". Or is sharing an opinion not allowed now? It might be hard to determine what's acceptable to us if nobody can contribute, anon.

>>46918894
Which was why I never said I was doing that, and in fact used the prefix "I" to express an opinion.

As I'm sure you are as well instead of trying to claim yours is objectively right either.

>>46918901
Bancho, I'm...not sure how to break this to you but a mortal who has been instructed in SMAs is in fact an Enlightened Mortal by definition and therefore fully capable of using them.

The charms ARE the martial arts

The martial arts ARE the charms

There is no distinguishing between them

By stating you are a master of an SMA you are also fundamentally giving people a license to perform Creation Slaying Oblivion Kick-and I'm pretty sure the Oblivion Shards of Infinity top charm is actually more broken than that combo.

>>46918910
Yay on the Bio-Suits, yay for normal suits getting stealth mode, yay for drone bike, and awww for not being able to have a companion be a Martian Beetle like Green Beetle was... Unless... They don't get the stipend, but do Vigilantes get the one item discount thing, and Superhumans get the discount on powers?

>>46918966
that wasn't my understanding of how that worked, will fix

>>46918997
Yes to the discounts, for both.

>>46918885
Batman has everything to do with everything. He's Batgod vs God Emperor Doom. In show down of who's the most Mary Sue.

>>46918966
Good luck actually using SMA, CSOK or OSI without any Essence, though.

>>46918838
Only if you're taking Darkseid. Don't balance shit based on the crazy people who have already done 500 Jumps.

>>46918966
Uh, does that mean that someone could use Adaptability from the Wuxia jump to learn these exalted martial arts and/or similar styles, or would it not work without the specific power sources?

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Idk if this has ever been done or if it's a nono in the thread but I want to know the place where your journey has started.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10053558

>>46919079
>No Africa, Asia or Oceania
Shit tier poll, even more then normal for Straw Poll.

>>46919084
>implying there is a significant amount of posters from africa or asia
but yea admittedly i forgot Australia and NZ

>>46919079
Gotta love how you included Russia, but absolutely no Asia.

>>46919079
A very anglophone-sphere centric poll, very /pol/-worthy. Heh.

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>>46919079
The only place that matters.

>>46919095
>Half the Jumps on the Drive are Babylonian Cavepaintings
>"No, no, there's no Asians here!"

>>46919193
Ok, Asian, Strayan and African posters feel free to specify where are you from. Or should i remake the poll?

>>46919258
Remaking it is probably for the best.

>>46919193
Anon, you do know that this is a western forum to discuss anime? The actual Asians are on futaba.

>>46919308
Well, unless they're Ameriboos.
Those exist.

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>>46918966
But that shit doesn't grant essence for such abilities tho. So if you learned naruto ninjutsu you wouldn't be able to pull off it's chakra intensive stuff.

I made a slightly different poll from the last guy, unfortunately strawpoll kept giving me an error so I had to remove some options.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10053680

>>46919367
Wouldn't that make getting SMAs totally useless, then? You'd be able to do things that require a specific power source and metaphysics which don't exist in the jump. So you're basically flushing CP down the cosmic toilet.

>>46919073
I'm going to preface this by saying I haven't played Exalted 2E in some time and I know nothing about 3E. And I think I ranted on a bit.
It all depends on whether you have to obey the source material's restrictions.

For a person from Creation to learn a Sidereal Martial Art, they have to have an essence pool to start with (which is a specific power source) and to learn each move/charm in the martial arts 'tree', you have to meet the charm's prerequisites (Eg: six dots in Martial Arts skill and six dots of Essence, plus any prerequisite charms, plus the assumed prerequisites for each of those charms.)

So to learn the entirety of Border of Kaleidoscope Logic Form, even though the low-level charms don't have prerequisite charms (just Essence and Martial Arts skill minimums), you have to already have mastered a complete Celestial Martial Art to get the Form charm (which is like the 'trunk' of the martial arts style, once you have the roots, you learn the trunk, then the top-tier branches).

SMA's are in-verse considered secret styles, so you're not going to be able to walk up to a dojo (even in Yu Shan) and say "please teach me", even as a fellow Sidereal. Even "hey, fight me so I can see your moves!" is more likely to be met with a CMA, as the masters won't pull out their secret moves just to show some upstart he doesn't belong here.
There are in-setting ways around needing a sifu, but even if you have a means of stealing charms, you still have to meet the prerequisites or it doesn't "stick".

There is a further restrictions on what types of Exalts can learn which types of charms.
So if you dropped in without an exaltation, you'd be at mortal tier and CMA's and SMA's are up out of your reach.

The point is that even the in-universe "I steal your moves" techniques don't just allow you to watch/eat/mindrape someone to learn their moves.

>>46919378
Lots of embarrassing 'humor' in this one.

>>46919284
Here
http://www.strawpoll.me/10053698
I wanted to delete the original but it's too old now

>>46919432
That makes sense.

Now to find some perks that force people to use their best cards.

>>46919434
Largely I was trying to come up with references to things, or generic answers one might find in fiction that are often terrible, and yes a number of them were plenty terrible. However I got fed up with it and decided not to make a longer list and edit out the worst of them.

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LOTR (12)
--LOCATION--
Rivendale
--RACE--
Elf (800cp)
Male, 230yo
--SKILLS--
•Elven Grace
•Fighting Skills (700cp)
•Mental Fortitude (500cp)
•Elven Forestry
•Blood Of Kings (-100cp)
--GEAR--
•Lembas Bread
--DRAWBACKS--
•Out The Frying Pan (0cp)

http://pastebin.com/wD62MX6j

>>46919482
Quit Screwing Around And Show Me The Real Deal! from TOME is something you want.

In Light of Terra,(dlc 3) does taking Veteran of the Psychic wars multiple times get multiple specializations?
Do I have to take psychic awakening for each purchase of VotPW? What about Psychic Supremacy?

>>46919482
Bad idea. The "best cards" in SMA are things like "punch causality so hard it breaks and I can replace it with my own" or "transcend this physical plane to become a being of utmost beauty and terror" or the more prosaic but still terrifying "infuse you with the collected energies of the entirety of Creation, burning you away in their purifying blaze". Sidereal Martial Arts roll hard. Granted, you'd need to be a Sidereal or Solar yourself in order to learn them at all, so you'll likely have some good defenses, but it's still a scary thought. I know I wouldn't want to learn SMA that way.

>>46919432
>>46919632
and the thing is it doesn't grant you an essence pool

>>46919671
Well in that case I think that solves the issue handily. There's no point in buying SMAs because you have neither the essence pools, nor the capacity to view the nonexisted Perfected Lotus, nor the existence of the Shinma to manifest Exalted-native phenomena.

So it's all as moot as Christopher Poole.

>>46919671
And what about when the Exalted Jump gets made, and you're letting people learn top-tier or blocked stuff in a completely different jump?

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Does the Logistics Assistant in the Red Alert 3 jump count as a companion?

>>46919684
Sure, not like you can learn the Rokushiki and save points in One Piece. Or the Hokuto no Shinken. Or Enbu. Or the 800cp martial arts in Wuxia. See the issue?

>>46917763
>>46917680
>>46917555
>>46917547
Not those anons, but I think the problem is that your fanbase is screwing you out of criticism.

It's no secret that you play very high power for your chain, especially with these pastebins. But for whatever stupid reason the community seems to regard you as some patron saint of power and with how butthurt people get over the slightest implication to "nerfs" or "limitations", this ends up translating to those people jumping to the conclusion that the people giving criticism or critique are telling you what to do, which you've seen what happens to those people. So now nobody is going to give criticism if they think it carries the risk of riling up the crowd that treats anything that sounds like "I'm not sure it would work like that" into some personal attack on you or them. You're probably going to need to make it more clear on the kind of criticism you want in the future, and point out where you feel you need it instead of just dropping pastebins and going "look at them"

tl;dr People need to stop being so anal and learn what the other guy is saying.

Sorry for bringing it up, but I feel like it needs to be said for everyone's sake if we want to avoid this shitshow again.

>>46919710
No. Those are all things that anyone can learn, in those settings, if they put in the effort. It is explicitly the case that only Sidereals and Solars can learn Sidereal Martial Arts. There is nothing else in the setting that can. The Unconquered Sun, god of utmost perfection and glory, can't learn Sidereal Martial Arts. Luna, god/goddess of metaphysical transformation and defying logic, can't learn Sidereal Martial Arts. The Maidens of Fate, goddesses of destiny and creators of the original Sidereal Martial Arts, can't learn Sidereal Martial Arts (the Maidens have this weird relationship with impossible knowledge, it's hard to explain). None of the Primordials, sealed, dead or free, could learn Sidereal Martial Arts. No Behemoth, no grand Elemental, no Raksha or Ishvara or Fetich Soul. If you want Sidereal Martial Arts, you need to be a Sidereal or a Solar.

>>46919748
>Fanbase
>Not those anons
Riiiight. Look, it's only recently that I've seen someone come in and starting ranting about 'his fanbase', so excuse me if I doubt you when you claim you're not the posts calling it a fanbase.

Speaking of, I doubt your good faith when you accuse everyone else of being a 'fanboy', and that being their only reason for disagreeing with you ever. More than likely, if you've suffered backlash, it's because your 'criticism' was wrong or hostile

>>46919811
Isn't the Unconquered Sun's power winning by a factor of 10 at whatever he really tries to do? I'm prettty sure a very creative Ishvara could figure out something too.

>>46919811
You've completely missed the point of my post anon. I was saying that the issue of the perk isn't moot because there is a lot more wrong with it then just whether or not you can learn something from Exalted.

>>46919836
Original anon you responded to-point taken, I was just addressing the specific Exalted and should've made it clear it's obviously still an unfairly meta-powergrab

>>46919825
You know what, fine. I get on thread, I see people are shitting on him and I try to pitch my two cents to help him out. Then immediately someone comes by and accuses me of giving the "wrong" criticism? Way to fucking prove my point.

Next time I want to help someone, I'll know better and just stay quiet.

>>46919854
*specific issue of

>>46919707
I think so

>>46919748
Also, another point? You treat it like 'everyone needs to learn the other person's perspective' which is a neutral, compromising position, while you go on to attack only one side. That reveals a bias and dislike, since you never cared to meet anyone in the middle, you cannot try and use such a statement as your point. In reality, it's "I want people to stop defending him no matter what I say."

>>46919858
Don't even bother playing the pity party game with me.

>>46919858
Sorry you gotta deal with that man. Appreciate that you did speak up about it, for what it's worth.

>>46919710
it's comparably priced to the martial arts in one piece,the Hokuto no Shinken is just being really really good at pressure points. Once the update comes out Enbu is probably going to be available in jump.

>>46919830
Yes. He still can't learn Sidereal Martial Arts. Granted, because of said "wins at whatever he does" effect he has no interest in learning SMA, but it's explicitly the case that he can't. And the Ishvara are too alien to learn the styles of Creation that way. I suppose they could make something analogous to SMA, but it wouldn't quite be the same. Though maybe that's just me arguing semantics.

>>46919836
I'm sorry, then. It sounded like you were defending it with "well, I can learn these awesome martial arts styles without paying for them in these other jumps, so...". I guess you're right, I missed your point.

>>46919869
He spoke up to accuse people of being fanboys. Extending sympathy to that kind of behavior helps nobody.

>>46919883
>Its the same price as the option in the other jump, so there's totally no problem if I offer the chance to buy it in my jump
Here I thought you were meant to be improving.

>>46919883
>the hokuto no shinken

It lets you phase through people and explode them, punch through skyscrapers using a ki blast (Raoh) and beat up tanks

>>46919866
>>46919891
>anon tries to help ASA
>doesn't attack him, tries to explain their view
>gets attacked by fanboys
>"you only attacked one side, you're biased"
What the fuck.

>>46919887
Right. Exactly what stops him from learning SMAs again? I forgot that detail about what the Perfected Lotus is and does.

>>46919917
'Anon' isn't trying to help anybody. Anon is accusing anyone who disagrees with him of being a fanboy who needs to shut up. Just like this quoted post is doing, 'anon'.

>>46919883
So you'd think it was completely okay to offer any of the powers in the Worm jump if you had to pay 800cp then? Or a Stand if you paid 500cp?

>>46919894
roughly similar price, roughly similar power levels, it's not a direct ripoff. I'm not seeing the problem.

>>46919907
that was not my understanding of how it works

>>46919936
You are literal shit.

So hey, you guys remember when people raised the issue of Night Angel offering things that affected other jumps in a way that broke rules? Is it possible to raise that same issue here or what?

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If i understand it correctly i can extract the "essence" of any supernatural being by killing it with Magicite creation from FFVI and use it to learn (with time) the characteristic supernatural abilities of said beings and even summon them once per fight or like in the game use it to add said powers to technology.

Am i getting this right ?

>>46919926
I don't recall if there's a specific reason given, or if it's just not in his metaphysical nature to be able to. He's a powerful god, but a god all the same, and so he can't quite do the impossible like his Exalted can.

>>46919936
You see no problem with explicitly offering people things from other jumps that have zero relation to your jump. You cannot be serious Tera, have you learnt nothing?

>>46919969
Yes. You'll need Magitek Mastery to infuse it into technology, though, not just Magicite Creation.

I think this stand is litle too much.

Stand Ability: [Death Infusion](http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Death_Infusion)

Power - D

Speed - E

Range - D

Durability - A

Precision - D

Potential - E

Description: The power to infuse death into objects (usually a weapon), beings or powers. Sub-power of Death-Force Attacks. Variation of Death Inducement and Infusion. The opposite of Life Infusion. The user can infuse objects (usually a weapon), beings or powers with death, empowering and energizing them and allowing the user to manipulate their qualities and efficiency, causing instant death of the target.

>>46920017
>Power list wiki

What jumps let me make my own powers?
Putting my Noble Phantasms together was a lot of fun and I'd like to check out anything similar.

>>46920017
Well, of course it is. The powerlisting wikia is the worst possible way to make a Stand.

>>46920017
It's just a tank, filtering through those stats you get an ability that negates it's own death to power that A rank durability.

You've got [The Wall].

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>>46920070
That's an incredible Stand

>>46920058
I don't know what it is with conceptual powers, but they seem to confuse superpowers for godlike control over aspects of reality.

Anyway, >>46920017 - it could theoretically work as long as you don't go "death infusion means my enemies instantly die!" You could revise it so that it slowly kills them, or makes wounds that crumble them away, or something else Jojoish.

>>46920094
But not ridiculously over powered, you just got to think about how the power generated would function with those stats.

Pretty much ignore the stuff on the actual wiki page, it mostly tends to be no limits fallacy nonsense.

>>46919969
Did you ever want to wear a god as an earring?

>>46920017
My advice for if you're too lazy to make your own stand is go pilfer from Super Stand Sunday. They frequently use the random song and wiki page generation method but actually bother refining it into a Stand ability as opposed to going "oh yeah, I got double omnipotence and therefore win forever".
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>>46920070
Thanks for name.

>>46920100
It will count as demage over time but wont be heal till someone use any very high healing magic.

>>46920191
>wont be heal till someone use any very high healing magic.
No, as far as I remember there is not such a thing as healing magic in Jojo. Make it hard to heal in general such as it would take 3x the time or something

So, offhand I remember that we've got

>Gunnm's Legitimate Existential Angst Bio-chip copy
>Darkstalker's Parting Gift being
>The upcoming Sburb Doomed Timeline clone
>The upcoming Project Cadmus clone from Young Justice

How long until narcissistic jumpers can have a full 8 companions that are just alternate version of themselves?

>>46920191
Jojo powers tend to be a bit limited but extremely potent within their field. The issue when fighting a Stand User is less overpowering them and more figuring out how to apply your powers in such a way as to bypass or counter theirs. The basics of a Stand battle is figuring out the limits and bylaws of your opponent's Stand while concealing those of your own. So with death infusion I could easily see it as something like Black Sabbath, where it lays out certain conditions and if it fulfills them it kills the opponent.

>>46919103
Oh, so you come from Canada as well?

>>46920367
Canada's like 'Murica's hat.
It makes them look fashionable.

>>46920297
You forgot the Inside Out Child if you rolled yourself.

>>46919926
It's partly got to do with how charms are linked to an exaltation or type of being (spirits/gods, rakshasa, etc.), and only specific types of beings and exaltations can learn particular charms.

A spirit/god, even the Unconquered Sun, doesn't have an exaltation, even if they're technically providing the power for it, so they can't learn charms exclusive to exalts. They have their own sets of charms, which may be better, may be worse.
Even with Celestial Exalts, only three specific castes (Eclipse Solars, Moonshadow Abyssals and Fiend Infernals) can learn the charms of other Exalt or spirit types.

>>46920297
Not exactly a "companion" but the Teen Titans jump has a perk that lets you create clones that start with your full power with each one being half the strength of the last.

>>46920499
In a similar vein, Prototype let's you create servitors that have 1% of your powers, if I'm remembering correctly.

(My standard operating procedure is to mind control them, in combination with multitasking perks and a while lot of other hive mind stuff)

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>>46920297
Everybody always forgets one of the better ones. Invader Zim, PAK. It has the ability to store memories and personality inside of itself and "reboot" the user should brain damage/amnesia occur. It can also download it's memories onto other hosts and completely override their personality and memories.

Why wait to collect 8 versions of yourself when you can just make them out of whoever you happen to pick up?

>>46918763
If you have genetically based powers (or altforms with biologically-derived powers, for that matter), would the Cadmus Cloning Projects allow you to make hybrids of those?

In a related vein, would the Cloning Projects perk provide a discount on the Clone Companion perk?

>>46920672
Disregard, reread. Not off the bat, obviously.
I is a dumb.

>>46920672
Yeah, you could do that.

>spoiler
No, sorry.

>>46920668
Because the PAK is a mind control device to ensure compliance to the Irken Empire.

>>46920668
That works for memory and personality. But I feel you'd still need appearance and atleast some of your powers to count.

It works through, so nice.

>>46920696
Thanks.

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>>46919748
>You're probably going to need to make it more clear on the kind of criticism you want in the future, and point out where you feel you need it instead of just dropping pastebins and going "look at them"

For what it's worth, I think this at least is good advice I'll endeavor to follow if and when I ever come up with/"stat" out something on the scope of the other pastebins again.

So thanks for that.

>>46920046
Complete Arsenal from Worm is actually a power that lets you make powers, with 3 slots. You can keep and grow them, or swap them out for something else.

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>>46919099
Cantonese azn here, though technically my journey probably started in the UK since that's where I first started reading about Jumpchain.

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>>46920755
There's something to be said for having 8 different faces. Still, though, the lack of power transferring is a bit of an issue. At least it's a start.

That said, you can get a long way in a decent mecha suit.

>>46920753
That's only one of it's many functions, one that it can't even perform reliably on many Irkens. A little bit of time, technological knowledge, and picking up the Irken language would let you reprogram it no problem.

>>46920753
Irkens also die without it due to brain degradation. It's possible they've devolved to the point where they actually can't survive without an external brain.
Hell, for all their talk of superiority, their bodies actually treat basic water like it's acid. And most aliens are clearly their physical betters, including humans.
They are a system of broken kludges with barely functional technological crutches.

Anyway, it's probably less an Orwellian thing and more some Irken who programmed it way back however many millennia ago thought 'yeah this won't have any downsides whatsoever' and jacked it in because they tend to be not smart.
Even the Tallest have them, after all. Nobody's really 'in charge' of that system.

But getting back on topic, any jumper with tech experience could reverse engineer that shit and reprogram it.
You don't even have to use the original PAK. As long as you know how to build one and how it's supposed to work, you can install the functions in yourself from the ground up.

>>46920983
Well, they're born from cloning banks. I don't think they 'evolved' to be like this, I think they were designed to be like this either by the computer (forget its name) or a pair of Tallest past.

>>46921000
> a pair
There is normally only one Tallest. The current situation with two is actually highly irregular.
Previous Tallest included Tallest Orange and Tallest Miyuki, both of whom were killed by one of Zim's experiments.

So what is the maximum range on a Eliatropes Portals?

>>46921116
Aight. Point stands.

>>46921145
They seem to be able to open them up by will at few hundred yards or so, but they seem to prefer doing so close. Range must be difficult. Children seem to need to start out throwing their portals before they can open them at range, likely because it's just easier.