Jumpchain CYOA Thread #803: Destined For Greatness Edition

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>>46876789
We have multiple, multilayered countermeasures in place for things like that, from the scientific (quantum locking sustained by perpetual energy, solidified gravity wielded as an alloy by the built-in furnaces etc) to the magical (magicka reactor used to duplicate a certain Thalmor mage's hat trick, magitech portal system), spiritual (biotech used to store space-time seals at structural points, artificial AT-Field generators) and conceptual (EX phantasm used to forge "worldmail": lots of bounded fields interlocking to spread out incoming damage, Correspondence sigils ordering reality to not let the ship's structural integrity collapse, built-in expanses of Imaginary Numbers moulded with the Sixth Imaginary Factor to catch debris in a limitless space trap) which double to make the ship very, very buff. Trust us, we spent a LOT of time using the Path to Victory for looking into emergency measures. Up to and including getting drunk and going for a joyride, for example-and that's why the captain's seat now has a tsundere Vocaloid-like AI programmed to yell at us for drinking and driving.

...

...admittedly it would be pretty bad if it happened. Probably something rather like Biomega's Megastructure, actually-a giant worm of metaspatial distortion and crystalised thought spilling out to encompass nearby planets and stars for energy-likely spanning intergalactic distances given just how immense an attack would be needed to breach the defences in the first place.

That's the problem with giving energy weapon absorbtion tech adaptive capabilities and effectively mass and energy generation to implement them; when the ship has the mother of all allergic reactions everything for lightyears get borked.

So question, is it possible to become something of an aspect from marvel? Or even at the very least a being capable of consuming whatever Galactus consumes.

>>46876974
Interesting. I would love to see your face if it actually happened, just the sheer surprise, shock and awe that something broke your pets countermeasures.

I'm about to begin a new run and the theme this time is going to be evil/edgy. Where do you think I should start?

>>46877047
Ravenloft

Does the Doormaker power from Worm also give you the Doormaker's clairvoyance that lets him look for specific worlds and open portals for people even when he's not there with them?

>>46877091
Isn't that someone else's power entirely?

>>46876974
Wait, how'd you get the LoT that big? Jump-stuff or your own stuff.

Or is this just the calculation of the size of the explosions.

>>46877112
It is, yeah. Cauldron's other in-house cripple. It's funny when you realise Taylor spent most of the final battle holding hands with both of them to buff her range.

>>46877113
Not sure how he did it but i got mine up to 243 km. Took the base size as 36km or so then jump supreme commander and take experimental, Five Star Stories and import it and take the size boost and then dreadnought engineering in Final fantasy XIV. Goes in order a double boost a 225% boost in FSS and a 150% in FF XIV.

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>>46877113
Most decidedly our own stuff. We never bothered with any ship-size imports-although in Uncharted Waters we did import it as an old timey sailing ship.

Anyway, we started out by building a massive productions chain based on Minecraft's Industrialcraft system and the same world's creation ex nihilo system of mundane resource production, incorporated Orgels (to replicate a Tower's mass-energy conversion systems built into the ship's infrastructure with grathmeld "transplants"), Bounded Fields (very, very big ones to give better intuitive control of the vessel/transporting resources around), applied Crystal Rewiring/Architect's Eye to the ship (to make it overall denser, and later on to network Bastion Coretech with the existing mass-energy generators via HYDRA blueprints to "print" stored mass onto damaged parts of the ship) and perpetual energy generators from Invader Zim. At the center of this was our unified alchemy paradigm incorporating everything from FMA to Taoist forms in order to perfect the synthesis of matter and spiritual material.

The key breakthrough was Biomega, though. By researching and recreating (Project W+Hypnos Gene fro Resident Evil) the Reload ability we had trailored a custom form of the RPIP enhanced with Fusion Boomer material as well as our own video Conduit gene to vastly increase the ship's inherent Fleshmetal/necrodermis self-improvement capabilities and optimise further additions. At that point the main issue was the energistic systems would create too much mass; even going beyond Araya's work in Bounded Fields, it was hypothesised the "limitless space traps" would have an eventual limit to perpetual energy-generated mass.

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>>46877309
So when Fate/Extra came around and we got access to Imaginary Numbers/Demons in the form of A+++ Mystic Eyes. Cue being able to throw production into overdrive safely.

The other significant subspace/durability/mass energy conversion advancements were in Supreme Commander/Rick and Morty (recursive subspace perpetual energy generator pocket dimensions), Legacy of the Aldenata (use of Sohon to automate the pocket dimensions' energy production), Gravity Rush (harnessing gravity as an alloy), SCP (reverse engineering the TAER and the God-Ship) and Blame (using the gravity furnace and net sphere technologies to improve the built-in pocket dimension subsystems into being a pocket multiverse, which in addition to the Dimensional Breach Controller from Worm enabled near-instantaneous matter/energy transmission between pocket subspace factories).

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What exactly does warpfire do? I took Molten Warrior but how hot is the fire and what other effects does it have apart from the madness inducing thing?

>>46877113
he's explaining the explosion. If his LOT is damaged, because it can generate matter and energy from nothing, a runaway exponential matter/energy generation process could theoretically continue until it implodes under its own mass...and even then, it might continue to support its own structure. In that case, the only thing that might stop it from filling the whole universe is the expansion of the universe (pushing distant galaxies away faster than its growth can catch up with them).

>>46877113
The answer is Asa hacks.

>>46877334
Well, it's warpfire, so probably asdkjgsjbhnxcthecolourstheyburnweseethelightithatesithatesforeverWEFEELTHEWARPOVERTAKINGUS degrees, and side effects are likely to include mutation, madness, corruption, soul damage and possibly Daemons.

>>46877393
I'm taking it you're kidding about the daemons, cause that would be rather helpful. Other than that what you've said makes warpfire sound amazing.

>>46877393
>>46877412
Or did you mean I get those side effects, cause that would be poopy.

>>46877412
He's not kidding about the daemons. Just don't be surprised when innocent bystanders turn inside out and go do Warp things to other people.

>>46877482
So would they attack me?

>>46877503
Most likely those who have a massive amount of control of the warp would be a good beacon to enter the materium, delicious soul to eat or barter with other daemons with.

>>46877047
Worm?

>>46877503
They're Daemons. They attack everyone. Including other Daemons.
The only reason Chaos hasn't completely steamrolled everything due to its status as a universal constant is the constant infighting.
If you support them you might be able to deal with them in the same way unaligned raider groups can deal, but they are never, ever 'safe'.

>>46877515
So they wouldn't attack me and would just go and rampage/ protect me as i'm the easiest way into the materium for them.

>>46877540
Ah ok, I have bels and whistles if that helps deal them.

So, let's say that one of my gimmicks is the summoning, binding, and swearing of entities: demons, angels, what-have-you.

Discounting the Light of Terra Book of Empty Promises the Sisters would NOT have appreciated my research, what other settings are a definite "This-Is-Not-A-Toy" in terms of summoning?

>>46877551
Lovecraft maybe?

>>46877541
Not likely it's 40k so if anything a Chaos Traitor legion/worshippers might capture you and use you to create a permanent link to the materium but I am not well versed in 40k personally.
Even if the Imperium fights this off you would most likely be executed because it's easier to kill the link than drain resources to use it as a weapon against Daemons.

>>46877572
I was planning on using after the LoT jump. I'm not suicidal enough to use it during that jump with no powers. Also chances are i wouldn't every use it in the 40k verse.

>>46877551
SMT, Bartimaeus, Dragon Age, Bayonetta

Bartimaeus because summoning causes agony to the spirits, Dragon Age for the same reasons as 40K. Don't laugh SMT and Bayo either; SMT is only safe for the MCs because they usually either have a blackbox that evens out powerlevels and even then stronger/willful demons make up some of Atlus' most challenging bosses. In DS Lucifer for example is barely affected by the COMP at all even while holding back. As for Bayo, she makes it look easy because she, Jeanne and Balder are pros-but Bayo 2 literally ends with Jeanne dragged to hell because Aesir's interference made a demon summon go out of control. Bayo is basically SMT with a significantly lower potential powerlevel but higher consistent physical feats; her primary summon punches a meteorite dropped directly on her into harmless pieces.

>>46877551
Bayonetta has demons/angels/wraiths

and the generic dungeon crawl has summon and you could fill in the blanks yourself

>>46877551
how quickly you forget the darkest dungeon jump which you made. Also PS 238 can give you a decent summoning option.

>>46877551
Well there's the 'normal' 40k jump. Generic Horror, Forgotten Realms, maybe Skullduggery, Digital Devil Survivor, Naruto summons/bindings & Sword and Sorcery should be worth a look too.

>>46877570
Hmm, didn't realise they had summonable beings. Thought it was all space-alien-monster-ghosts.

>>46877599
I'm mostly on edge about the Dragon Age Fade spirits, because those suckers play mind games. The rest I'm pretty sure can be taught sit and stay with sufficient amounts of stick.

>>46877607
GDC and other D&D like properties have safeguards that I can make use of, I'm thinking of places that are normally too dangerous to summon around. As in 'I'm behind seven pentagrams, good luck breaking out' levels of prepping.

>>46877714
PS238? That's news to me.

>>46877736
Danke schon.

>>46877749
Nvm on the lovecraft, I made the assumption you would be able to summon some kind of night-gaunt or such. Reading the Lovecraft comic showed something similar but I think it was just a shoggoth who escaped from the shoggoth realm.

>>46877749
there is a create your own magic option remember? Everyone focuses on miscellaneous meta but you can certainly choose summoning as your area of magical expertise, it'll start off slow but the more you learn and experiment the better it becomes, like any magic system, I'd say it would top out at around one third Lovecraft.

How hard it would be to survive Darksiders as Maker ? I want just make artifacts and create new magic. I don't care about plot. It would be my 43 jump.

>>46877832
Ah, yes, found the option in-jump. "Do not call up what you cannot put down" indeed. Shame its in the Cultist perk line, I like being a noir gumshoe. I could always get the Necro, but dat 800CP pricetag...

>>46877849
Yep, found the option for kid-wizards. Bit odd how the background gets you power armor.

>>46877907
it's not scientific power armor though, it's magic power armor more magical girl than Iron Man

>>46877925
Magic doesn't tend to give you power armor Bancho. It's regular armor or robes.

PS238 is surprisingly one your better jumps. Although it needs some work, but what jump doesn't?

>>46877907
I think the Necro is everything though. So like from a basic weak shoggoth to the cthulu it's self.

>>46877963
Honestly I don't think LoT needs any work. Seems to be perfect. But then everyone defines perfection differently.

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>>46877963
it's more meant as a focus item for a transformation, then power armor proper, plus my Japanese live action transforming fighter shows what with the monsters and the motorcycles tell me it's perfectly normal for magic It's just done using the rules for power armor. And thank you and I agree

>>46877968
The downside is you have to have it on you to function. And flipping through pages in the middle of a gunfight or a chase is not something I like repeating. And I don't think that you can adapt the knowledge in it? Like, I want to mix up all the different summoning systems into one big Book of Calling Forth.

>>46877963
Lyrical Nanoha Barrier Jackets are a thing, but yeah, the squishy wizards don't usually lift enough to wear tin cans.

>>46878030
Isn't there a way to instantly read a book then you have all the knowledge. And I don't think the book is the thing with power, it just merely holds the rituals and such to summon the old ones.

Side question, what happens if i unleash Cthulhu into warhammer?

>>46878092
promptly squished by the many more powerful o elder Gods that are already there.

>>46878092
>Cthulhu into warhammer

He falls to either a Greater Daemon/Chaos warband taking him seriously or Exterminatus. He's merely a planetary psychic, and maybe an interplanetary communicator.

>>46878112
To be fair he's of the materium, and the chaos/elven gods can't touch the physical world at all. It's their minions that will bring him down.

>>46878092
He finds a new boss.

Dude's scary powerful to mortals, but he's just the preacher man. Depending on how you see it, Warhammer Gods are/not Milky Way bound, so try calling up extragalactic threats if you feel like ending the Chain early.

Then what about one of the outer gods?

>>46877047
Commorragh

>>46878133
Would any of them even want to employ the sleepy guy? He's too Materium for Chaos, too xeno for the Imperium and both Eldar, too unorky for the orkz and not really relevant to the Greater Good. At best I see the C'tan (shards) using him as a glorified postman.

>>46878169
Which one? They REALLY vary.

>>46878190
Yog-Sothoth and/or Nyarlathotep.

>>46877047
Akame Ga Kill.
Night Angel.
Medaka Box.
Naruto.
Forgotten Realms.
Black Bullet.
Overlord.
Twilight.
Children's TV.

>>46878209
>>46878209
>Yog-Sothoth

Absolutely nothing because he's largely unable to interact with space-time. The one thing he did do was get some woman pregnant. Since nobody in 40K knows the Whateley family's ritual, not even that.

>Nyarlathotep

Pals up with the Deceiver to play paradox poker with the Emperor, Tzeentch and Cegorach

>>46878279
So i'd just be introducing more evil at the very least and at worst giving the chaos gods a very powerful minion.

>>46878209
The gate and the key is mostly a nice guy for an outer god, I wouldn't pick on him.

>>46878304
Yes. Or the C'tan an ally, since they've more in common.

I presume you are thinking of doing something with a pod. There are less traumatic ways to end your chain.

>>46878436
No, I had no plan. I just wanted to release some monsters.

How would one go about making their base form an Ultramarine? Of course any drawback that removes powers would also remove that before anyone thinks im trying to get around that.

>>46878459
Er, you would've needed the pod for that. Can't release what's not in your jump.

>>46878490
>being a smurf

Have you tried being one of the non-wanked legions instead? At least the Grey Knights have something else as their motif apart from being da bess

>>46878492
I was using the Necronomicon to summon them.

>>46878505
I didn't know what they are called in general, all i could remember was ultramarine. I chose the Black Templars for my chapter.

>>46878490
>making their their base form an Ultramarine
I first read that form as from, and I had so many ideas.

>>46878543
Continue with the ideas, they may be helpful in the rebirth of my chapter in other jumps.

what's a good unusual specialization in MCU?

>>46878560
They were more along the lines of trying to use a single ultramarine as a source of material to build a base from, using such things as sword plant from King Arthur to extend the amount of material.

>>46878561
Leave them with their voices and thoughts somehow and bring some xeno's inside and laugh as the walls insult them.

>>46878640
was meant to be >>46878597

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Posting my Les Mis Jump again for feedback and help with pricing

>>46878561
I'm considering going with Photonic Catenation. Or, in layman's terms, making hard light.

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Also posting The Fountain for "hopefully" final mark up comments, Biosphere Supplement has been nixed.

>>46878927
It's a little hard to read the effects of each perk underneath the song lyrics.
Maybe bold 'em or something.

>>46878927
Am I reading the epilogue right in that you built-in a Return option that wipes buys and resets 1000CP for folks who want twice the Les Mis?

It might also help if you put the CP prices out where we could see them.

>>46879003
Good suggestion

So how would people feel about a Mortal Kombat jump?

>>46879015
Ummm... Yes. Yes I did that. I don't have CP prices yet. That's something I need help with. This is only my second jump and pricing is not my strong suit.

>>46879015
I figured a built in return/reset would fit considering that Les Mis is a stage show and on weekends they often do double headers, a matinee and an evening performance. Or you could call your first "The Dress Rehearsal.

>>46879040
Word of warning, you might want to get rid of it or rethink it.

CP prices, what is common or everyday should go cheapest. The biggest, rarest, flashiest stuff should go up in pricing.

So, like baking a cake would be 100CP. Decorating it all fancy and gala-worthy would be 300CP. But a cake that needs to shoot sparklers and be hauled in by forklift and taste like clouds and dreams, 600CP. Bad analogy.

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>>46879030
We think that sounds great.

>>46879030
Can I be a generic recolored ninja or ninja robot? If so I'm game.

>>46879030
All I want is a Mileena.

Otherwise I dunno what I'll buy. Probably something to make my attacks all gorey and some ice powers.

>>46879030
I'd be fine with it. I want to suggest a Friendship perk though.

>>46879030
Didn't someone already claim it? Thought OAA was working on it.

>>46879259
Nope.

A draft was passed around in IRC but he said "until I show back up, it's not claimed. I just fucked around."

>>46879259
Doesn't he have a half dozen other jumps currently in WIP tho?

>>46879277
That's why >>46879270

>>46878505
>At least the Grey Knights have something else as their motif apart from being da bess
You mean the fact that they're all Psykers or the fact that they're all dicks even by Imperium standards?

>>46879431
Yes.

>>46878490
Simple. Go into 40k Imperium, choose Space Marine. Finish the jump, go into SAO and choose "This Is Infact My Final Form". Now every form is a baseform.

>>46879589
Actually, if were not talking about the dorm you're stuck in when you take certain drawbacks, what is a base form anyway?

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>>46878505
Grey Knights are Ward's favorite chapter. They get away with shit like, killing a bunch of Sisters of Battle to cost themselves in their blood to ward off daemons. Despite the fact they're all Psykers, their armor is inscribed with anti-daemonic runes, their bones are covered in silver etched in anti-daemonic runes. They've been trained to resist Daemonic possession, because to join they make a daemon possess you and your initiation is a successful expelling of the daemon. Lastly they wipe all your memories of your past, so you won't be tempted by anything.

Yet somehow they needed blood of SoBs because their faith of the Big E would help.

>>46879607
A form that which is your "default".

>>46879667
...Have you not heard about the "whole spiritual" liege thing?

Was there ever a Dragonlance jump chain?

>>46879739
Nope

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>>46879667
>they needed blood of SoBs because their faith of the Big E would help.

>>46879735
ROWBOAT GIRLYMAN IS MY SPIRITUAL LIEGE

>>46879739
Nope. If you want to make it, go ahead no one has even brought it up. We do have an Eberron jump in the works, but no Dragonlance.

>>46879675
Then what do you need Final Form for? Just default to your Spess Mahreen form.

>>46879822
Final form allows you to use all your powers from different alt modes in whatever form.

What's better in Supernatural, Angels or Pagan Gods?

>>46880012
Angels.

>>46878597
I thought you meant literally- as in, living inside the body. Might be a little cramped.
>>46880012
Angels>>>>>Anything else in setting.

Did anyone make use of the angel tablet?

>>46880012
Put it this way: There was a time when angels were actually treated as legitimate ominous being of awe.

There has never been a time when pagan gods have been treated as anything but the butt of a monotheistic joke.

>>46880051
Monotheists are such jerks.

>>46880012
in Supernatural, Angels > all

It's actually kinda disgusting how bad they do it, really.

>>46880077
Unless they're fighting Sam, Dean, or even a depowered Cas, in which case they can singlehandedly kill three of them in under a minute in melee.

On a related note, anyone else a little disappointed that there's no Witch option in Supernatural?

>>46880077
Except archangels

And leviathans

And Cas on a power trip

And the Darkness

And Sam and Dean in a bad mood

And basically whenever Supernatural wants to show someone is super duper double special they make angels job hard to let you know someone's powerlevel is maximum

>>46880033
>>46880049
>>46880051
>>46880077
How would Angels react to a Pagan God kicking their asses? Is that actually possible, or is their power unlimited or something. What does the scouter say about their power level?

>>46880116
They'd probably shit themselves.

Then again, that would be like a mudcrab killing a high level warrior.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc9r7yOQXp4

>>46880012
Actually a little curious, do demons, angels, and gods get the standard abilities all the others of their kind has for free? Or are they basically just humans unless they buy the equivalent perks?

Because even the gruntiest of them have immortality, telekinesis, and physical abilities far in excess of what's humanly possible.

>>46880134
To be fair, the stronger gods are probably more powerful than the standard angels. Lucifer slaughtered them, but he and Michael are ludicrously powerful even by archangel standards.

>>46880134
So who were these?

>>46880134
So what you are saying is, kick their asses, say, "I've fought mudcrabs stronger than you", then summon/create such a mudcrab to kick their asses.

>>46880116
The blank stares with which they react to literally everything

Nope. It's powerlevels.

And the scouter says "you must be THIS big a deal in the Old Testament to curbstomp these guys"

>>46880168
Odin, Ganesh and Mercury

...yeah.

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>>46880199
>Odin

... Scuse me while I go sob in a corner.

Speaking of Supernatural, Angels and Demons have their abilities in their normal bodriss without needing a host post-jump right?

>>46880199
>Odin, Ganesh and Mercury
Ugh, really? Goddamn, that's stupid.

>>46880265
And also, are they going to slowly lose their powers like Cas did if they don't serve heaven?

>>46880215
There is nothing good about how supernatural portrays anything really, with some small exceptions for angels, who aren't necessarily that great from a theological standpoint.

>>46880281
And the flaming chick? That was fucking Kali.

What jumps allow you to import a vehicle and give it a humanoid mech form, or the ability to transform int one?

>>46880310
And the guy Lucifer killed right before her was Baldr.

>>46880300
Also this. At this point God's plan appears to be fucking off forever and pretending none of this is happening, for which I can't really blame Him.

>>46880310
>Kali talking to Balder

What.

>>46880199
So was Odin the one at the reception desk? Which one was the black guy?

Give us some indicators, people. The writers had one job.

>>46880310
Kali... with a Billion followers... is not weaker than Lucifer... with a few hundred thousand. Even if somehow Lucifer's power was tied into the Christian God (but not the Jewish or Muslim god), there aren't that many more Christians than Hindus on the planet. well, maybe 2-3x but in relative terms, not that much.

>>46880265
Yes. I'm also fairly sure you arrive with your base form as your vessel.
>>46880285
No. There's a drawback that puts you on heaven's most wanted, so i doubt simply not serving heaven would de-power you.

Keep in mind, though, depending on who's running things up there, you're going to be hunted for not serving if you don't take precautions.

>>46880334
I haven't seen the new seasons, but I heard someone killed Death? Is that true?

Because, aside from teh fact that that is stupid, he was one of the cooler characters.

>>46880346
Power in Supernatural is only belief based for Pagan Gods, the angels don't need it for power.

>>46880200
I know someone who can't stop ranting about how much she hates the ending whenever this comes up.

>>46880310
Should be noted for anyone not aware, Kali is not a fire god, nor does she have any association with fire, she's the time god. Creation, destruction, change, and preservation are all things she gets, fire isn't one.

>>46880343
Odin was the guy in the furry jacket you see on the ground in the beginning of the hallway scene. I think.

>>46880346
I didn't say it wasn't stupid.

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>>46880265
>>46880285
It's hard to tell. In theory they should but in practice only the archangels do cool stuff without a host, mainly along the lines of everything burning up near them.

>>46880285
Maybe. I don't even know anymore, Cas does just fine but Cas has all of the plot armor. All of it.

Metatron's heaven-nerf is a much bigger concern really.

>>46880343
Nah, that was Mercury. Odin was the old guy, Ganesh the black guy.

>>46880346
To be fair Lucifer and Kali are different types of beings, and the Christian god is an entirely different being to the pagan ones. He actually created the world for one, and the archangels are some of the most powerful beings in existence. Even if they job to the even more powerful beings in existence whenever they show up. And also to Sam and Dean Winchester.

>>46880361
Dean did.

With his own scythe


DESPITE SEASON 5 ESTABLISHING DEATH CAN SENSE AND ASSUME CONTROL OF HIS OWN SCYTHE BEING USED AGAINST HIM

AND YES, I KNOW RIGHT?

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>>46880361
How would you even kill death. Let alone the implications of it.

>>46880376
pagan gods... i.e. everything not Christian? Hindu's aren't Pagans. Shintoists aren't Pagans.

>>46880395
Through the power of bad writing and forgotten plot points, it seems.

>>46880409
Everything not Judeo-Christian is considered pagan in the show.

Welcome to the suffering.

>>46880409
Try to keep in mind that people are talking in the context of Supernatural, not the real world. In Supernatural, Pagan Gods are just everything not christian.

>>46880391
>>>46880346 (You)
>To be fair Lucifer and Kali are different types of beings, and the Christian god is an entirely different being to the pagan ones. He actually created the world for one, and the archangels are some of the most powerful beings in existence.

Kali is one of the TriDevi, the female halves of the TriMurti, the triple faced god of all Extisence. Brahma/Shiva/Vishnu created the entire Universe. They are Alpha and Omega and Kali is their female half.

>>46880432
>>46880421
The show don't give a fuck

>>46880418
Yeahh... Jews don't have Lucifer.

>>46880391
...Why did Dean even want to kill Death, though? Weren't they on good terms after the whole "rescued Sam from the goddamn cage" thing?

>>46880395
Eh. I guess the Reapers handle the taking souls to the afterlife still. They functioned just fine without him while he was sealed away for millenia.

Still stupid, though.

>>46880432
you don't seem to be realizing.

This is Supernatural.

YHVH IS STRONGEST THERE IS

>>46880432
I'm not sure what you're trying to prove. People have already told you things are different in the show. Yes it's dumb, everyone knows it. There's no need to persuade us.

>>46880432
Which the show does not give half a fuck about. Seriously they use mythology as a list of names at best.

>>46880450
sounds like a spectacular reason never to watch the show.

>>46880361
Yeah, Dean killed death with his own scythe. 'Muh family bonds'
>>46880343
Ganesh was the bald black guy.
Kali was the fire chick
fuck it, here's a link
http://supernatural.wikia.com/wiki/Deities
>>46880395
>>46880418
He has reapers do everything now.
>>46880447
Death was intent on keeping the darkness and the mark from hurting anyone else.

>>46880445
The point is-if it's in the bible, it's better than literally anything else from any mythology ever according to the show.

>>46880447
Why d'you think? He even called him up in the first place.

And Death revealed Dean had to kill Sam to keep the Darkness sealed.

And then things went south because the Winchesters are fucking morons at overcoming attachment issues.

>>46880409
It helps to think of them less as gods and more as just another kind of monster. Helps the headaches, anyway.

>>46880478
What helps the bad acting?

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>>46880450

>>46880464
Death literally died because he was trying to keep the Darkness from escaping? Holy shit. Death is a martyr.

>>46880495

The constant influx of beefcake

>>46880464
Apparently there's a New Death, who may or may not be a setup for the next season's BBEG. One Reaper said he's issued a no ressurection policy which is fucking laughable based on the show's track record.

Also apparently Old Death was a good boss, which really isn't a surprise-he's the best character on the entire show.

>>46880450
>>46880463
You know the sad thing is YHVH isn't given a particularly respectful treatment either. The show uses a prophet called Chuck to make some meta jokes, and Chuck's been out of the picture for the last 4 seasons. And the producers have confirmed Chuck is God.

>>46880495
Whiskey and something you don't mind beating up

>>46880506
Fucking this, Death literally did nothing wrong

>>46880500
And this...just reminds me of SMT 4: Final. Which is another kettle of stupid weirdness in the other direction.

>>46880495
Being a tumblrina.

>>46880012
>>46880033
>>46880049
>>46880051
>>46880077
>>46880116

To be fair, there's a reason Angels tend to pwn everyone.
Most of them (prior to Castiel getting his murder on) were connected to The Host of Heaven, which acted like a synergistic energy network for the Angels.
They were able to call upon the combined power of all other Angels connected to it.
Before Castiel turned his back on The Host, he could casually send people through time, with no effort.
After he went rogue, he had to rely on the external power of a human soul to do the same thing, and it exhausted him. And it nearly killed Bobby.

A lone, average power Angel, not connected to The Host, could probably get whipped by an average power god.

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>>46880464
>He has reapers do everything now.
This only raises further questions but I'm not even going to ask.
Goddamn that one tumblr post about Supernatural being the western DBZ in that it cant stop wont stop escalating was right

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>>46880134
So what's a good way to kill these assholes?
Not in a "mine's bigger" way, just in a "I need to remove some people from the gene pool" way.
Up to and including God's sister, since that's apparently a thing.

If someone says something like nukes or the LoT I'll accept it, but I'd prefer to keep collateral damage to a minimum. I just genuinely think I could make the world a better place if I got rid of some fuckers.

I need to forcibly stop this trainwreck Tell me what I need to do.

>>46880526
>gods big sister
>killing death
>killing the best character
>fucking killed by his own weapon
>goddamn Dean did it
>new death
It's like they reach into a hat filled with the worst ideas and just grabbed a handful.

>>46880463
I mean, It's not terrible.
It's pretty good early on, but after season 6 or so the writers kind of shit themselves. From there it's fun if you don't think about it too hard.
>>46880506
Yes and no, Death wanted to take dean to another place 'where he couldn't hurt anybody' (because you can't kill someone with the mark), but in order to do that super high level stuff, Dean had to kill his brother, with death's scythe. Dean killed death instead. like i said, 'muh family bonds'
>>46880495
More Castiel.

Seriously, Misha Collins Is a spectacular actor.

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>>46880567
We've gone beyond Supernatural Z. We've even gone past Supernatural GT.

We're in Supernatural Super now.

>>46880566
>casually send people through time with no effort

Oh now we gettin time travel in this bitch?

Fuck this.

>>46880578
Angels? Stab them with an angel blade/sword (yes there is a sword)
Melt an angel blade into a bullet and shoot them.
Torch them with fiery holy oil.
Stab them with the first blade (but you gotta have the mark, and that sucks)
Get them eaten by a Leviathan (pretty sure that happens)
Simply be more powerful and do something cool.

>>46880509
>>46880526
>>46880584
I'll have to take your word for it. I don't own a TV so everythng I watch is streamed. But whisky does sound good. I have heard many things about Castiel. Dunno if I could take watching 7 seasons of lapsed Christians taking out their Guilt on all the other world religions just to see Misha Collins strut his/her? stuff.

>>46880595
You didn't know?
Castiel sent Dean through time at least twice that I can think of, and Sam and Dean's grandpa sent himself forward through time by himself.
The human soul, man. Not even once.

>>46880578
I'm sorry, the angels and archangels can time travel and were around when the universe was made. They might well telefrag your LoT if they see it as a threat.

>>46880594
Don't disrespect Beerus by comparing him to Darkness-oneesan

>>46880595
And then there's the Archangels, who can literally bitchslap people into next week.

>>46880594
No, those are too high quality.

We're on Supernatural AF.

>>46880578
if you can some help from Crowley he knows how to hack Angels into doing whatever he damn well wants. But he is usually the acting devil so that will cost you dearly.

>>46880644
>They might well telefrag your LoT if they see it as a threat.
I admit I would be interested to see that. It would be very impressive.

>>46880638
It's worth it.

Just give it a chance, eventually it'll turn into your guilty pleasure. At this point it's just seeing how far they're going to go. I mean, how much deeper can they get?
>>46880526
Chuck is showing up in next week's episode.
>>46880689
I dunno, Crowley's a generally good guy, for a demon. He wants angels to have their place, demons to have theirs, and humans do.... whatever the fuck they want, apparently.

>>46880594
That would require aliens to get involved.

... And then suddenly it all makes sense. Everything in Supernatural is aliens.

>>46880638
It's really not worth it, believe me. Just skip, it's fanboys have this kind of schadenfreude going for it.

>>46880777
Crowley isn't a good guy he just is willing to keep up his end of the contracts, some new player come strolling into town and wants to know how to hack a Angel he is going to want something in return, and it won't be cheap.

>>46880566
So do Jumpers who go Angel have access to the Host? What about post-jump?

>>46880824
Very much this.

>>46880842
>>So do Jumpers who go Angel have access to the Host?
Probably. I don't think the guy who made the jump ever said anything about NOT being in the Host.
>post-jump
Nope. You're leaving them behind in a different universe.

>>46880638
Watch up to season 5, then jump ship before the Leviathans show up.

>>46880842
I got no idea. But being connected The Host means you have to follow orders to the letter, or get kicked out on your ass.
And they were all for the Apocalypse, so that might not fly with some Jumpers.
Post-jump, I'd argue no, because you'd have to be able to call upon the Angels' collective power, and since they're frozen in time from your perspective it probably wouldn't work.
But, I'm not Stupid Dog, so I actually have no say. Just my opinions on the matter.

>>46880894
>Stupid Dog
Is he still around?

>>46880894
Beyond that, if you have access to The Host post-jump there's literally no other reason to go any other origin.

>>46880914
He is. He just recently released the Fire Emblem Fates jump.

>>46880842
>>46880866
>>46880894
Reminder that there are plenty of ways to get your hands on souls in the chain. Staying at full power off of souls is like hooking up a car battery to a TV remote- Necessary to have, but you won't need to replace for a long time.
>>46880933
>not wanting to stay human
>not wanting to possess people without their consent
But yeah, angel stuff is super OP.

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>>46880644
>>46880665
>>46880783
You can't deny that I'm right. Shit's escalating so quickly that you better bet that this will end by Dean eventually murdering Sam and taking his place on YHVH's throne as the new God, with Darkness as his waifu.

>>46878954
Anyhowser... build.

(The Fountain)
-The Past: Noble (Free) -There is nothing wrong with seeking the best for oneself.
-The Present: Seeker of Wonder (Free) -After all, life is beautiful. It has its ups and downs, but it is to be cherished.
-The Future: Witness (Free) -Is it not natural then, to seek to experience what you can to improve oneself?
-Consciousness: Sense of the Now (900CP) (2nd tier Discount) -It is only right to be aware of everything.
-Spirituality: 500 years of Practice (700CP) -You know what's beautiful? The crafting of beautiful metal items.
-Spirituality: Soothing Presence (500CP) (3rd tier Discount) -Calming people around me can have its merits.
-Physicality: Composure (1st tier Free) -To perfect the mind, you must perfect the body.
The Baggage of the Past (450CP) -Of course, to perfect oneself, one must be comfortable.
-Biosphere (Free) -...and to be comfortable, one must have the right environment.
-Meditation Garden (400CP) (1st Discount) -But that doesn't mean I shouldn't try.
-Tree of Life Sapling (0CP) (2nd Discount) -GARDEN GARDEN GARDEN GARDEN GARDEN.
Dice Rolls: 72 years old
-End Choice: Next Adventure

Not gonna lie. After having my soul on fire for ten years this is... different. Experiencing different things and witnessing the splendor of the world and humanity... and what was it for? All this time, all this watching, all this... ...viewing. What is even going on.

What am I even doing?

What SHOULD I be doing?

Should I even stay the course, merely doing what I can to not make waves while collecting what I can to imbue the occasional person? Should I be sticking my hand in things instead, using what I have to better the worlds I come across, regardless of choice?

I don't know.

>>46880993
Well, Supernatural souls are essentially indestructible perpetual energy generators, so they're pretty different from others. Shouldn't be too hard to grab a handful of them while.in Supernatural, though. Of course, ID you abuse them.enough, they may become demons, so eh.

>>46881000
Woo! Fountain build Get! Very nice!

>>46881053
Holy shit, I butchered that. Mobilefagging is a nightmare.

I know fuck-all about physics. If the following makes you facepalm, please forgive me.

If I became a Level 5 Electromaster with Malleable Reality in Railgun, could I manipulate the electrons in my own body in order to phase through matter? If that works, would I get the secondary powers required to not die, or would I have to figure out a way of dealing with atomic collisions? I don't know what that actually entails but it doesn't sound good.

Are electrons even the type of thing an electrokinetic would muck about with? The name makes me think so but I don't even know what an electron really is beyond being part of an atom and a funky subatomic wave-particle thing.

>>46881000
You know, I almost thought that knight in that pic was Isaac for a second.

And now i want to see a good Dead Space crossover.

>>46880933
Maybe, maybe.
In the later seasons Angels get into mindraping their own kind, the same way Crowley did with that one he literally put the screws to. They did it to Castiel. I dun wan no trahble.

Also, being an Angel means you get an extremely long lifetime of memories as being nothing but a Soldier of God, doing nothing but following the orders of your superiors, and killing in the name of a Father you never met. Angels got abandonment issues, yo

As powerful as Angels are, I'm not so desperate for power that I'm willing to become a violent, sociopathic autist in the process.

>>46880993
This>>46881053
Souls in Supernatural always struck me as being incredibly powerful, even when compared to other high powered settings.
Castiel once said taking juice from a human soul was 'like putting your hand on a nuclear reactor'.
With the right training and spells, humans can travel through time by themselves, albeit inaccurately. They could be off their mark by years.

>>46878017

Kamen Rider Wizard jump when?

>>46881000
>pic

Hey Red.

Do you believe in destiny?

>>46881136
Please don't ask that of the guy you just responded to.

It will only lead to a catastrophic fuck-up.

>>46881102
Maybe? The thing about esper powers is that they work less with physics and more with what the user assumes to be true about physics. That's the irony of the setting, that the magic is repeatable and empirically testable while the science is all one-offs that defy proper methodology. So if you want to use electrical powers to phase through matter, you might just be able to, and the fact that you don't know much about electrons would actually help you in doing so.

>>46881177
Exactly. He's the perfect person to make a Kamen Rider Wizard jump.

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>>46881104
>Isaac in RWBY
>Probably the most ammo conservative person in that entire universe
>Constantly curbstomping Grimm
I need it

Do any of you have jobs?

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>>46881104
Yeah, real shame that the DLC basically threw humanity in the garbage disposal th-

>>46881175
>that spoiler
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-

Am I missing something, or does Vampire Diaries have a complete capital-I-Immortality option?

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>>46881269
Jobs? Yes.
Lives? No.

>>46881269
Surprisingly quite a few.

We've got some everything from IT folks to part-timers around, doing this as a hobby, and the ones who don't are in college mostly.

Or did you mean in the Jumps?

>>46880200
You should make the 'empty chairs and empty tables' and 'on my own' exclusive of each other, or add an explanation of what happens when taking both. It'd only get 800 CP, but...

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>>46881270
I kid, I kid. Considering your lack of romantic inclinations, you should be fine.

Right?

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>>46881493
When I finally get to writing out all three parts to Black Crusade AND the planned DLC, I'm going to fuck you like the bitch that you are.

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>>46881520
Well, that escalated quickly.

>>46881520
So much for having a seat at the asexual satan table.

>>46881269
Yep, just catching up before I head off to a ten hour shift.

Help

>>46881459
seems easier to make them mutually exclusive. Can't think of how they'd interact.

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>>46881520
Are you sure that's what Cultist would have wanted?

I mean it probably is but still.

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>>46881579
>So much for having a seat at the asexual satan table.
In truth it was a metaphorical thing. The whole 'CP vampire' meme and stuff, the point is I'd like to hope this is all just in good fun. But I should probably tone it down, yes.

>>46881564
A mite, sorry. I wasn't kidding about three main parts and three DLC, though.

>>46881615
...why must you speak lies and stab my conscience at the same time.

>>46881269
I have a husband? No. I jest. Yes, I do have a husband and he works full time, but I'm on medical disability thanks to migraines, ADHD like you would not believe, and simply brutal insomina. I have a chronic Vitamin D deficiency and really pale skin. I was a teacher for a while.

>>46881676
Oh hey, marvelanon also teaches the students.

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>>46881520
mommy pls don't tease like this
How's nerf coming along?

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SlowAnon here, Generic Sburb Jump is almost done now.

Origins, Perk, Items, Companions, and Drawbacks are all done.

Only stuff left is the intro fluff, and endings details. Then I can do layout and upload a pdf.

As always, any comments/suggestions/calls to burn me at the stake are very much appreciated.

What jumps give me a magical tome or grimoire of my own choice? I know about Index and Railgun.
Not the Necronomicon, I don't care about that one.

>>46881901
Fuck, forgot link. Well, here it is now.

http://pastebin.com/pXi4AT9C

>>46881102
Electrons are explicitly what Mikoto deals with in the series, so sure.

And given that Meltdowner literally changes what electrons are (freezing them in a state between being a particle and a wave), your power sounds downright plausible.

Anyone know exactly how powerful Saints are in Index?

How fast do you guys think Accelerator killed the clones? Ten every day? Five? Three?
>>46882087
Oh wow, what a coincidence

>>46881195
>>46881991
Well. I guess phasing's on the menu for me now.

Wonder what else I could swing only by messing with my own body.

>>46881920
>http://pastebin.com/pXi4AT9C
Looks pretty nice.

>>46881908
Like freeform?

>>46881920
Doesn't Jack Noir kill universes or something? Why is he priced 100 CP?

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>>46882204
Alright. Nothing particulary out of place?

Oh, and if you hadn't noticed the last conversation. The Cue Ball has been remoived, because concerns were raised that it was kinda overpowered.

>>46882249
Because that's Jack Noir using a power source that doesn't exist in this jump, and which you can't get without going to the End Game scenario.

Without that, he's just a dude with a fondness for knives and shanking people. And scotty dogs.

>>46881269
Full Time NEET

But then I don't even have an ID.

>>46882228
I want an 'existing' Lovecraftian tome, just not the Necronomicon.

>>46882317
Not in particular. And I saw that.

>>46882143
There was one scene in the manga that showed him having slaughtered ~50 clones in one room. He probably had high days and low days. The ones we saw in the anime were probably mostly one on one fights because they had just started doing outdoor testing, so it was new.

>>46882087
It's sorta weird, since they're extremely strong and fast to bullshit levels, but have very low durability. They heavily abuse supersonic speeds, and they're strong enough to create massive shockwaves, block mountain-busting wings, and easily resist Misaka's magnetism who can lift multiple buildings. But their durability is much lower to the point that they have to use all their durability-enhancing magic just to survive using 20% of their own strength, going over that will kill them. Kanzaki severely hurt herself by going through a few kilometers of concrete at supersonic speeds, and burned through all her defensive spells doing it. It's also implied that they could accidentally kill themselves if they run into something while running full out without being ready for it.They tend to use hax to compensate, with Acqua using Divine Mother's Mercy, Knight Leader using Thorom's Defense Formula, and Carissa using Curtana's shards as a sort of shield.

They're also weak to magic based around spears and thorns, basically anti-Jesus stuff, since that's who they get their power from.

>>46882499
Oh, well thanks. That sounds a little disappointing, so I guess I'll just be an Esper instead.

>>46881920
Now, I'm not some kinda coward or anything, buuuut...

Is a +0 CP version of Single Player Dead Session that doesn't scale everything to you too dettached from the base concept of it? ie. Shit's unfair, your fault for trying to play alone.

The option being there at all is good enough for me, and it's part of the experience so I understand if you don't give easy mode.

>>46882317
Oh, alright. I take it Muses/Lords are left out as classes because they ARE gamebreaking?

>>46882573
To be fair, they're more powerful than any Esper but Accel or Kakine, or sorta Misaka more recently.

>>46882670
I dunno. Misaka still hasn't shown what she can do with the AAA, so we'll have to see.

>>46882670
But they tear themselves apart if they actually use that power.

>>46882699
>AAA
What's that?

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>>46882703
Got regen?

>>46882629
Pretty much, yeah. The Lord of Time's basically guaranteed by causality itself to always win, and the Muse of Space made a fucking black hole on her own.

They're special snowflake classes for a reason.

>>46881901
>>46881920
Wait, so you're giving a jump with unlimited time travel, with a perk that lets you flip the bird to paradox or anything that gives a downside to this unlimited time travel? What the fuck.

>>46882728
The Anti-Air Attachment. Currently in the translations, she's going on about how she shouldn't use it, she shouldn't use it, she shouldn't use it, but there was a piece of artwork that showed her using it. Should be fun.

>>46882703
If they use more than 20% of it. Which is more than enough to stomp most Espers.

Also you could be like Acqua and get some sort of hax that allows you to ignore that limitation.

>>46882728
Anti-Art Attachment. It's a collection of weapons meant to channel Crowley's power and allow the wearer to kill overpowered beings. Mikoto stole it recently.

Though like the other anon said, all she's done with it so far is take down a Kihara with alot of stolen powers.

>>46882755
All sorts. But if I'm going to use a power-up that tears my body apart to use it, I may as well use the 8 Gates and kick people so hard it warps space.

>>46882785
Translations were updated. Sorry, thought you'd read.

>>46882785
>>46882805
Why doesn't she want to use it?

>>46882822
Yay, nice to hear. Thanks for the update.

>>46882759
>Made a black hole
You can become a back hole at the end of Light of Terra. I feel like i've seen a couple other jumps offer it as well

>>46882805
20% is enough for supersonic speed, giant shockwaves, and blocking mountqin-busting attacks?

>>46882780
I think you're misinterpeting. The perk doesn't make you immune to paradox, it shows you how to avoid it. Avoiding paradox, in Homestuck, means you're locked into the single timeline and can't change it. Anything you do change was something that was predestined anyways, so you didn't really have a choice in changing it. It doesn't give you unlimited power to alter history, it just means you won't accidentally wind up in a doomed timeline due to causing a paradox. Which is good, doomed timelines are exactly what they say on the label. They inevitably fall apart and kill everyone in them. Basically, being the Time player in a game of Sburb SUCKS. You don't get unlimited power to alter history, you just get the job of playing janitor for everyone else's paradoxes so that space-time doesn't fall apart.

>>46881676
so you know for next time when questions like that are asked, we are not talking about real life but rather your current jumper
>>46881901
>>46881920
am I reading this wrong or can you basically be Dave? Because I'm not sure how well everyone will take that level of time travel.

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>>46882831
Because she's been going slowly crazy throughout the novel since she's basically completely impotent with the increase in power levels, and AAA has an "unknown element" to it (probably Crowley's power) that promises to push her over the edge. So of course she ended up using it to save Touma's life.

From the way it looks she's probably the antagonist of the next novel.

>>46882620
I feel you, it's a fun alternative game... but I really think it detracts a bit from the concept to get a non-scaled version.

>>46882780
Uh. No, not really. Causality is still very much a thing for Time players. Causing any paradox means the dead bodies are going to start piling up.

The perk you're talking about doesn't let you flip the bird to paradox or any downside, it allows you to know how not to fuck up massively and create a doomed timeline. This means you'll know not to cause a paradox instead of doing it and dying horribly.

>>46882895
Sure. Acqua who can use all 100% thanks to Divine Mother's Mercy is a beast. He drained half of the power of an Angel that can wipe out planets (though it depowered him completely).

>>46882898
Then you should really clarify it since otherwise we're going to get people who claim they can steal anything ever in the timeline and basically fuck up causality to be unkillable. I mean okay we have people who do that already but you should at least point out in the jump that it isn't a free ticket to unlimited time travel if it really isn't the case.

>>46882805
How'd she steal it?

>>46882941
Fair enough.

Guess I'll just have to git gud once I jump it.

>>46882950
How would it mix with extreme regeneration and a body that isn't fully physical (like a Bleach Shinigami).

>>46882964
Not the jump maker, just someone who read Homestuck up until the point the second set of Trolls were introduced. Though yes, it should be clarified.

>>46882911
Ooh. How do we magpie it?

>>46882973
She was knocked into a warehouse where it was stored and used her Electromaster abilities to gain access to it.

>>46882973
It wanted her to take it, probably because she's an Electromaster. It has some sort of sentience.

>>46883003
Should help with it. Though Shinigami still take damage so I dunno there.

>>46882885
True, but the Light of Terra one allows you to be one a tiny amount of time, instead just making an actual one that swallows up a magic sun containing the mass of two universes and continues to eat the afterlife after that.

Wasn't aware of any other jumps that offered that through.

But that's just the one power she's displayed, she might very well have more. Master classes be whack.

>>46882904
>am I reading this wrong or can you basically be Dave? Because I'm not sure how well everyone will take that level of time travel.
Well, yeah. But you'll have to keep in mind that Dave died. A lot. And you won't have the grace of just going further with the Alpha timeline.

>>46882964
Point. Not sure how to word it yet, but I'll put something in the notes for it.

>>46883014
Ah, sorry about that. Is it >>46882941 who's the jumpmaker, then?

Either way, some clarification would be good. Otherwise you'd have to be a retard to not pick up the Time aspect, low-power player or not.

>>46882785
Anti-Air
>>46882805
Anti-Art

I'm a retard. Should pay more attention to this shit.

>>46883097
It's anti-art. Just a typo probably.

>>46883076
Oh ,yeah no doubt that they shouldn't be allowed, just saying that making black holes isn't a unique thing.

>>46883087
Yup, that's me. Through the other anon was quite helpful in explaining it.

Clarification will be put in as soon as I figure out how to word it.

>>46883076
Dave had some pretty sweet time travel though, and decent time travel is really hard to come by. Might go with Prince of doom though, I fucking hate bad endings

>>46883159
>prince of doom

This sounds like the bandendingst of classes

>>46883243
so you're saying the Prince of doom would not be the guy who destroys doom?

>>46883243
It could be. The Prince class has the attribute of "destruction", either destroying his aspect or causing destruction using his aspect. So the Prince of Doom could make for very bad endings, or he could prevent them. One way or the other.

>>46883243
Princes destroy their aspects. Not the first thing that comes to mind, but hey.

>>46883316
now would it be possible to harness for one Prince of doom to do both? Or is it an either or situation?

>>46883131
Alright, thanks mang. I just want to have a good Sburb jump without it falling to the wanking we get with Worm/Fate/LoT/whatever the fuck the omnipotence of the day is.

I mean it's a lost cause probably with bancho already trying to destroy concepts, but I still appreciate it.

>>46883367
not concepts, just someone's destiny. big difference. My intention is to be able to destroy the doom that would befall someone who doesn't deserve it.

>>46883399
>Bancho interfering with what he perceives as "dooms" in other peoples' futures

>>46883367
It does, indeed, already seem to be a lost cause

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>>46883399
>he thinks destiny isn't conceptual

>>46883433
Yep. Fuck, I was an idiot to hope otherwise.

>>46883243
Still better than Bard of Doom.

>>46883287
True, but they also destroy /with/ their Aspect.

And the Princes we've seen also have... difficulties with their Aspects. Like Dirk being unable to escape his own identity while being Prince of Heart. Combined with Doom's rather rough treatment of its players, you might end up hounded by your own doom or having to make sacrifices to destroy dooms of other people.

You might be better off going with a positive class and either Light or Hope for helping people.

That said, I can't tell you what to do.

>>46883433
so you're saying there's no one you would like to save who is destined to certain death? It's not like I'm using it to win every fight ever by saying that anyone who is fighting the is doomed to lose. >>46883469
it's not conceptual, it's a luck/coincidence thing isn't it?

>>46883367
Maybe I missed one of his posts since I'm reading filtered backlinks for context, but isn't that what the Prince classes do? Not like, boop Mind no longer exists anywhere, but going up to something and doing a thing with your power.

Destiny/predetermination due to the threat of paradoxes seems to be a big thing, so maybe I'm taking the power to be stronger than it actually is.

Actually hold on. Doesn't some guy with Space just end up with cool wind powers? Maybe I'm the idiot here and I'm misunderstanding how everything works.

>>46883495
Honestly if you were in the process of "saving" someone I cared about I'd mercy kill them to spare them the horror of dealing with you.

>>46883482
>And the Princes we've seen also have... difficulties with their Aspects. Like Dirk being unable to escape his own identity while being Prince of Heart. Combined with Doom's rather rough treatment of its players, you might end up hounded by your own doom or having to make sacrifices to destroy dooms of other people.

Could you please elaborate on this? What exactly my getting myself into?

>>46883499
No, the Windy Thing is the power for Breath characters.

What jumps are set in space / have a large portion of the lore not on earth, but in the same dimension?

>>46883499
Nah, the cool wind powers are Breath.

Anyway, it's pretty powerful if you walk up to something and do your thing, but it's more involved than simply going up to someone and doing a thing.

I think it's less of rewriting of destiny thing, and more of going up there and preventing it yourself kinda thing.

Not to mention as a Prince you wouldn't actually have any ability to /know/ what kind of Doom you'd be preventing or how to do that.

>>46879030
>>46879076
>>46879092
>>46879130
>>46879212
>>46879259

Get that guy who works on the Mortal Kombat quest to help

>>46883495
The definition of concept is "an abstract idea; a general notion" so yes, destiny, luck, and coincidence are all concepts. That's what a concept is and you're already wanking being able to instantly destroy them.

Fuck me this is why I was scared of having a Sburb jump, we're just going to get all kinds of crap like this now.

>>46883645
>Quest
Ha, fuck no.

>>46883664

I've never seen someone who knows more about Mortal Kombat than him

>>46883660
bearing in mind that I'm not being sarcastic here, what do you think Prince of doom would be able to do?

>>46883603
Mass Effect.
Star Wars.

Most scifi stuff really.

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Is there any jumps that have faith-based powers and where I can help God slay daemons and sinners?

>>46883603
Green Lantern TAS

>>46883499
>>46883625
The actual powers you'd get would probably be doom-lasers or de-buffs or sacrificial powerboosts to break one thing.

>>46883578
Princes appear to have problems with their Aspects. Dirk is constantly reminded of his worst qualities and unable to do anything about them. Eridan is... Eridan, and as Prince of Hope is pretty much completely delusional with it's belief.

On the Doom side, the Mage blinded and killed himself in sacrifice to avert a Doom he'd forseen, and the Heir of Doom has pretty bad brain damage due to something similar and /still/ everyone died in that session.

>>46883686
Too bad he's making quest shit.

is there somehere I can get a list of free companions? like, ones you get completely for free with one background or the other? so far I know about the mistress in overlord, but I'd like to know if there's any other.

>>46883690
Not that anon, but I'd imagine a Prince of Doom would be a rather subtle character. Doom is associated with fate, laws and sacrifice, so applying destruction along those lines shouldn't be a direct thing. They'd be a manipulator class, knowing how to push people to cause their own dooms, or guide them away from it. It would also probably have a lot of focus around consequences. Doom has an association with sacrifices, so your powers would be about making choices, deciding what you're willing to give up in order for your goals to be met.

>>46883686
That doesn't matter to anon. What maters is that he's part of a quest so: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>46883811
Consequences?! Screw that noise! Witch of time then.

>>46883774

He's also expressed interest in a Mortal Kombat PnP, they were tossing ideas around a while back, someone else made a pdf

He uses stuff from the Mortal Kombat games, films, cartoons, comics, novels, notes from the creates on the MK series, he knows the source material better than anyone else around here

>>46883836

Clearly

>>46883794
fate has the most versatile option for that sort of thing. Also there is a good one for a specific background in skullgirls, and city of heroes.

>>46883855
I can only imagine the mountains of doomed timeline corpses this decision will create.

>>46883794
Well, there's Pokemon. Also the two Fate jumps, and I think Beelzebub.

If you lack a hand, can you still perform Clapchemy by tapping your other hand and the stump together?

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>>46883855
>Consequences?! Screw that noise!


I pity whatever timeline has to endure you.

>>46883892
To be fair, that's meant to happen. This is the one case where his casual disregard for causality is having exactly the effect it's supposed to.

>>46883873
Doesn't matter. Quests are garbage.

>>46883911
I don't see why not. It's about forming a cycle of energy through your body, so as long as you can complete the circuit the alchemical charge should still be created.

>>46883940
I dunno about that. Some are fun, so it's not like the idea itself is bad

>>46883940
>he says in the CYOA thread
>he says when MGNQ Jump already exists

>>46883940

So you'd rather a Mortal Kombat jump be made by someone who knows nothing about Mortal Kombat?

Say, would this work as a stand? Or would it be too strong for a standard ability?

「TECHNOLOGIC」 allows its user to intuitively understand the inner workings of any form of technological device. This allows the user to repair machines that may be beyond what is normally accessible to the world. The Stand is also able to dismantle any machine or complex structure into its component parts by punching it, the more complicated the structure or machine, the more punches it takes to fully disassemble it.

>>46883984
Yeah, it is kind of ironic to call quests garbage here in magical wish fulfillment Mary Sue land. I mean, I love Jumpchain, but we've filled the board with 803 threads about this nonsense. If quests are garbage, then so are we.

>>46881901
>>46881920
I think you really need more guidance about what classes can do. While this is true for all of them (what is a Knight of Mind? A Rogue of Space?) but especially the more esoteric ones like Heir and Page.

>>46884028
This isn't a quest, thankfully.

>>46883985
>The only choices are quest cancer or someone who doesn't know anything.
False dichotomy.

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>>46884028

>>46883939
>To be fair, that's meant to happen. This is the one case where his casual disregard for causality is having exactly the effect it's supposed to.
Why am I thinking of video related with the fate of those poor timelines in the building. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV2DaY4hLUI

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>>46883985
>This level of implication that only that QM would be the only person to make the "right" Mortal Kombat Jump

I mean I've liked my small share of quests with my massively shit taste but that's a bit far to say man

>>46883985
Quest guy sounds cool, but please don't mouth off whoever's intending to do the jump now.

>>46884051
>This isn't a quest, thankfully.
We're still garbage though

>>46884069

Well who is it? And has any progress been made on it?

>>46884051

>Guy who knows a lot about MK could help with a jump based on it
>Cancer because quest

False dichotomy.

>>46884045
Fair enough. Most of the class/aspect combinations are still pretty vague, but including examples about the canon ones in the notes might help?

>>46884145
Yeah - if we have examples of canonical feats it'd really help me better understand what the traits of each class are, and how they interact with their aspects. I gave up on Homestuck ages ago, long before any of these became things, and don't want to have to drudge through it to understand the basics of what I can do.

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「TECHNOLOGIC」
Statistics
Destructive Power - B
Speed - B
Range - D
Durability - C
Precision - A
Developmental Potential - A

Basic Ability - Connected - allows its user to intuitively understand the inner workings of any form of technological device. This allows the user to repair machines that may be beyond what is normally accessible to the world. The Stand is also able to dismantle any machine or complex structure into its component parts by punching it, the more complicated the structure or machine, the more punches it takes to fully disassemble it.

Too powerful?

>>46884296
Perfectly understandable. I'll add it to the list of things to add to the notes.

...Speaking of, I now seem to remember having talked about doing that when I initially set out on writing the whole thing. So that's something I should've done anyway.

>>46884392
Seems pretty reasonable I'd say, can't really find anything too off about it. Go for it.

>>46884143
Nah, statement of fact.

>>46884051
Where do you think you are?

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>>46884499
>wasting triple-dubs on hypocrisy

No, anon, you are the cancer.

>>46884143
Don't bother arguing with them about this. Their hatred of quests isn't based on logic.

>>46884499
You seem to be the only one here who agrees so-might wanna drop it. I'm honestly indifferent because the threads I regularly browse on /tg/ have no bearing on 'em anyway.

>>46884499

Sent him a message on twitter anyway.

>>46884570
Considering you're undercutting the guy who wants to make the CYOA to try and recruit your waifu to make it, you look like a real shitheel.

>>46884593
Not him but I feel like we're getting ahead of ourselves here-I didn't even know anyone was making a Mortal Kombat jump. I don't even remember anyone making a claim let alone a WIP>

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Literally who are any of you talking about?

>>46884636
>>46884593

As said in >>46879259 and >>46879270 nobody claimed it.

>>46884570
The guy who started the entire talk JUST asked if people would like a MK jump.

I understand his type of retardation might work you up but you're getting ahead of yourself here.

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>>46884654
I don't know. I feel lost and alienated by this conversation. It appears someone claims someone else who doesn't know jumpchain exists would be a good candidate for making a jump, one person is making an ass out of themselves by being a prejudiced hypocrite and a lot of people are mocking the second person for it.

I'm just hanging out in some other browsers until all this blows over.

>>46884684

Fair enough

>>46884636
There was I guy asking about making one earlier, but Questguyanon and Antiquestguyanon got into their little tiff and now everything is slowly rolling towards the shitter.
>>46884668
See>>46879030
Clearly someone was trying to claim it, but the collective autism in the thread took over.
We've got some real assholes here.

>>46884716
>We've got some real assholes here.
I can't ever decide if the assholes are the majority or just a really loud and obnoxious minority.