WIP Painting/Converting/Sculpting General

From previous thread, after death but before new to hread. What's the best thickness of plasticard, both sheets and tubes? Also, what kinds of brushes do people like? If not specific brands, then what sizes and features are good to look for?

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to the anon who painted this saucy bastard. How did you get such a nice matte black?

>>46824399
It actually took me a few different methods and attempts. Black is a nightmare, and I'm not looking forward to my chaplain and deathwatch set.

That was done over a black basecoat with a mix of white and black (maybe 25/75) to make a dark grey. Did a normal layer, leaving some areas (recesses) flat black.

Once that dried I did a glaze of black overtop. Just with watered down black paint. Sometimes two if I thought I messed up and watered it down too much.

Finally an edge highlight with the same dark grey at the end. The knee/elbow pads got a few more highlights and glazes with mixed degrees of success.

I can try to do an image tutorial when I get around to doing my chaplain, if you'd like. It's a hard to explain process because I cooked it up at 5AM when frustrated out of my mind with the more traditional edge highlighting I tried first.

>>46824399
I would Love for a small image tutorial if you have the time. I Love the looks of that black and want to emulate it for my RG.

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I did a thing

>>46825446
WHY DOES IT KEEP GOING ON IT'S SIDE?

>>46825518
crop your photo, even if only by a little bit

just don't rotate it or you will end up going on a surprise trip to australia

>>46825317
I'll see what I can do. The gist is just dark grey + black wash + dark grey highlight, but I find pictures are easier to understand than words.

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>>46825564

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>>46812580
>>46823933
>reposting since I didn't realize thread was about to die

Taking the orange you're using for optics and using it for some bright edge highlights would jazz it up a bit. Also maybe make the drones on the wings primarily orange.

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>tfw you shake up a pot of paint
>tfw the lid was off
Painting this landspeeder storm is making my mind suffer

Is there any way I can strip primer? One of my skitarii caught a massive blast to the face and now it looks like he's wearing a snowsuit

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>>46826105
>Is there any way I can strip primer? One of my skitarii caught a massive blast to the face and now it looks like he's wearing a snowsuit

You can try non-acetone nail-polish remover, but against primer? I won't promise anything.

>>46824909
You are a gentleman and a scholar ImpMarine Anon.

Try for GD with it, only on dat sweet black treatment and helmet work.

>>46825710
looks retarded

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Just some mostly new WIP stuff I've gathered over the semester I hope to finish this summer. There's a ton more, these were just all easier to move.

>Boy do I hate money

>>46826301
Shit, thought I resized that. Sorry /tg/

>>46826170
GDs ain't in canada anymore, unfortunately. I am looking forward to playing some games now that I have a 40k army almost done.

>>46826301
the fact you own the last of the tomb kings is worth your lack of money, I have had to make due with necron parts, and 3rd party heads >>46825710

I tried to prime my Exorcist today and it ended up with a really rough texture. No matter how many layers of paint I put on, I can't get rid of it either.

Am I fucked?

>>46826404
My only regret is never getting Tomb Guards or Stalkers.

Still waiting to see if Z has good snake riders or not or not in the mail. Hoping I can afford their two boxes of TK Horsemen before someone else buys them.

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Almost finished with some counterblast minis. Just need to finish the bases.

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>>46827005
also got some progress done on some bones minis for frostgrave

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Continuing work on sculpting a faun miniature. Currently trying to get a good base for a head going so I can sculpt the face.

Also sculpted it a bow.

>>46824909
Please make a guide, especially with a Chaplain model, I'm dreading painting mine.

>>46821570
Yeah, I'll finish it, probably even tomorrow, but I ran out of steam after finishing everything but the skin highlights.

>>46827073

> Beautifully-sculpted tits
> Rest of the mini is still WIP af

I like you, anon.

>>46827766

Rest of the mini needed just a little filing to get it into shape, so it's janky because of that. Going to smooth over it later.

Tits were done in one, though might need some work later. It's also how you sculpt, sculpt the figure as naked as necessary then apply clothing, details, and stuff afterward.

But I'd be lying if I say the intended end result isn't cheesecakey as fuck.

>>46823884
What do you guys use for stripping plastic minis? I copped a shitload of tau off ebay for a sweet deal but some of the minis have some godawful scheme that is going to make my painting life very difficult if I can't get rid of it. The previous owner didn't really seem to be a fan of multiple coats so it shouldn't be too difficult to remove. I've heard methylated spirits/dettol will work well. Will either of these damage the plastic underneath?

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>>46823884

>>46823884

how do i make chaos space marines that look streamlined, aerodynamic, or agile?

>>46823933

hnng those highlights are fucking sexy on that colour scheme

>>46828320
>streamlined, aerodynamic, or agile

or at least more so then their loyalist brethren.

>>46828352
take design cues from 3rd Edition Chaos Raptors

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>>46827073
I am wondering how the face will turn out. I always use plastic heads because faces are so easy to screw up...

And I am working on making this necrosphinx fit my VC army

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How would you rate this as an effort for my first mini?

>>46829065
Pretty damn fine.

Cleaner than mine was for sure.

>>46829065
Lovely for your first time. My criticism would be to work on the consistency of your blue. Put down multiple thin layers ( waiting for the previous layer to dry) before hitting it with a shade and highlights.

>>46828944

If my own face-sculpting attempts fail horribly, I might just give up and get a few heads for the collection and future projects. But I want to try sculpting my own because if I ever start selling any of my sculpts I don't want any legal issues selling someone else's sculpt.

Also, nice Necrosphinx. Texture might be a bit much, though I'll suspend judgment until it's painted.

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Reposting these Ghar, the third of which I just finished.

>>46829065
jup looks quite good. I highly recommend you try and paint the eyes red using the eye glare guide thing and clean up some of the highlight lines by painting the darker blue over the highlights. Will make it look much much cleaner.

If you want it to have a bit more presence on the table highlight more, such as the breather, belt buckle, and fingers.

>>46828289
Already posted once in the thread dude.
>>46826136

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>>46823884
Finally going to start building up some hobby supplies like pic related. Does WIP have any hot tips for good high street products for us poorfags?

>>46828944
Ambitious.

>>46829272
Guide on those sweet bases?

>>46829272
I love how their base expression is a permanent state of I'VE SEEN SOME SHIT / I AM SO FUCKING DONE

Good stuff, anon

>>46826301
whats that minotaur model?

>>46825710
MOLDLINES.

>>46831429
IT'S HAPPENING?!

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>>46825710

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Just a reminder. There's a dark souls game on kickstarter and the amount of shit they promise for a pretty modest £80 pledge seems like a fair deal.

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Trying a few different colour schemes.

>>46831562

Ugh it's on its side baka senpai

Also, I know holding it like that is frowned upon, but it was the quickest way to get a picture.

I'm considering the blue body, yellow helmet and black shoulderpads.

>>46831429
gorgeous

>>46831562
It works well so far, don't know if the black shoulders will add of subtract though.

>>46831555

Nice trips

Do you get all those expansions for the 80 quid though? I thought you had to increase amount for the extra stuff

>>46831562
nothing much to say other than

real nice

>>46831562
Looks great, i think a monochromatic backdrop will help convey the colour impression better though.

Sheet of plain grey/brown cardboard is perfect for the job.

>>46831651
Yeah that's what you get for 80. As I understand there are several big minis like the Gaping Dragon you'd have to pay extra for.

Does anyone know a good painting tutorial for the steel legion?

>>46831691
Depends whether you prefers the blue or brown type.

Any other Brits here?

Seems like we have only half the tools that Americans can get easily. Simple Green, various primers without paying £10 postage in case it explodes, a lot of the varnishes etc.

I'm painting some Reaper Bones at the moment, and it's just a pain in the ass. I've washed them and prepared them, cut off the integral bases and put them on regular ones. Since they apparently don't need primer, I put on a base layer of Abaddon Black, and I don't know if it's just me or I've lost a lot of detail. I don't think the Vallejo metallics on top help either.

>>46831740

I should add, I've never actually varnished a model after painting it. I think I was always worried that all my hard work would end up frosted over or something.

Where do I start?

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>>46826898

Spray primer?

Rough spray enamel usually means you're holding the can too far from the model. The paint droplets will partially dry before hitting the model unless you get in close and move swiftly. Try to maintain a 5-6in range.

>>46824909
+1 for the guide, it can be shared and non-black black are dope.

>>46828352

1. Use vanilla marine models with cut-down backpacks.
2. All bare heads.
3. Leave off the outer pauldrons.

Are GW paints supposed to dry up so fast? Vallejo lasts far longer. Is GW trying to jew me out of money?

>>46825440
I like it!

>>46831703
i would prefer brown, but blue is also ok

>>46831873
>Are GW paints supposed to dry up so fast?
Yes.
>Is GW trying to jew me out of money?
Yes.

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>>46831635

I'll try and get a test model going to wait and see.

I'll admit, I actually photoshopped how it would look on to Sheep's word bearers from B&C, and it looks good.

Still torn between doing the whole helmet yellow or just the faceplate, different coloured faceplates are sexy.

>>46832238
faceplate alone may loo like a beak

>>46832238
>those book spines.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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got 9 of em done, not happy with 2 of them so i'm going to replace them. just waiting on some greenstuff then i can pose the dual powerfists of my champ

>>46832280
's what softbacks are for.

>>46832280
They're just well loved anon

>>46832300
What's your recipe for that very nice red?

>>46832300
That's an absolutely gorgeous red anon

Did you do blending on the chests?

>>46832300
>done

I don't see any scrawl on those purity (heresy?) seals, anon.

>>46831873
this comment has no fucking context. how fast? what pot?
I've got citadel paint from every generation for almost 2 decades that still works, so the problem is likely you.

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PLEASE KILL ME

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update

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>>46833566

On the base ... is that Citadel's new Creme Brulee texture paint?

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>Primmed my miniatures black before painting them in a White-Blue colour schmeme
>Struggle with white, have to apply a billion coats
>Finally finish releaved
>Realise that the next group involved bright yellow

What were your beginner mistakes?

>>46833602
And remember, as always give it a proper shake.

>>46833785
It's nice and clean, but you really need some shading

The trick to getting a nice white is to have a darkish grey in the recesses and then a very light grey as the base. Pure white should only ever be used as a highlight

>>46832300
That blending is some next level shit anon, well done.

>>46833566
The paint is a bit thick there on the skull and to be quite honest, the rest doesn't look so hot either. And what's going on with the curry-diarrhoea on the base?

I don't wanna be an asshole but this awesome mini deserves better.

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>>46833843
There are some highlight there but as you said I really should have built up the colours more as I was painting.

>>46831740
Plastikote/valspar is what you want for primer.

You can get white or grey at B&Q. White/grey/black at hobby craft.

Their varnish is decent but has a really strong odour. I prefer vallejo but that needs ordering.

>>46833558
attention whore

>>46831740
Dettol is what I use instead of Simple Green, the Yanks don't get that.
Primers and varnishes... we need to find our own cheapo non-modelling specific options, and just suck it up if we want stuff like Testor's.

We'll always have our windowsills and fences

>>46831740
Also, Fairy Power Spray comes well recommended for stripping minis.

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>>46831286
The Minotaur is from Malestrom Games old BaneBeasts line. Looking for this picture I found out a company picked up the rights called; Mierce Miniatures. Good to know, cause they have some fun fantasy stuff.

The resin on this particular model is so fragile, even with the thickness of it (I assume it's solid from the weight). It tipped over and there's a hardly visible crack on it's chest now. Scar tissue cover up and ancient model make it less of an issue.

>>46831429
FENRIS JOLDA

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>>46827005
>>46827047

Freakin' sweet! I like your taste in figs, anon. I know that reaper beholder well - I painted him a couple years ago.

>having to buy extra tools and resources to correct shitty, overpriced GW casting

Eyyy rofl?

>>46834478
Assuming you're talking about finecast: yeah it sucks ass, however...

People may accuse me of shilling, but finecast is just a necessary evil. I'd rather deal with it than have all those classic minis have just dropped away when casting in white metal stopped being economical.

>>46834536
My dream is them taking the old models and making them plastic, but I don't see that happening, as they would need to "scan" the models and turn them onto CAD plans to be able to make them plastic I believe.

>>46834536
>casting in white metal stopped being economical.
You mean when GW couldnt rape all the cash out of you for them?

>>46834536
My biggest issue is the complete lack of QC. Even a quick glance would be enough to prevent most of the crap they've pushed from reaching soon to be dissatisfied customers.

>>46834587
That actually seems fairly easy to accomplish.

>>46834010
FYI, Testors Dullcote is now EU legal and available to buy in the UK.

>>46834743
You've never worked with a 3D scan, have you? In many instances it's easier to resculpt from scratch than to cleanup the scan.

>>46834761
Biggest problem I've seen is that it's not widely stocked, and you need to pay for courier delivery if you want to order it online because solvents.

>>46834783
I know the technology is decades old by now, and likely is getting better by the year.

Though I agree, re-sculpting or using existing parts to cast new molds would also work.

Would using Tomb King Necropolis Knights as The admech chicken walkers be viable?

Are they similar in size? I'd convert obviously, ranger on top, and probably paint them metallic.

>>46833566
I like how you drilled the barrels AFTER you painted it. Cheeky

>>46831429
>ooh, a terminator kit
>it's the same old terminator kit
>with crux terminatus on the left shoulder

At this rate I'm just gonna put cruxes on my legion terminators and tell autismos to suck it up.

>>46834930
The crux was the symbol of veterans before the heresy, the autismos are just flat out wrong in this case. The only thing that changed was the addition of the emperor's armor shard or whatever post-heresy.

>>46834930
Could you not just use the plain shoulderpads on the other shoulder?

>>46829065
Looks pretty great for a first mini, good job staying in the lines. Your layers look fairly uneven though, so I'd work on that.

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>>46833566
I can finally use this pic.

>>46828721
>3rd Edition Chaos Raptors

got any examples?

most the one's google are kicking out don't seem that much different from assault marines save for the different engines or have bat wings instead of jump packs.

>>46834963
Terminator shoulder pads are not symmetrical. There's a piece missing on the other side that the other doesn't have. Putting two plain pads would mean one side has the hole on the front and the other on the back.

>>46831860

The smaller backbacks seem like a good idea.

I'd like to have some kind of helmet though.

And yes no or different pauldrons seems like a good idea. :)

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>>46833785
>What were your beginner mistakes?

Painting with Testor's red flat enamel.

Hey guys. I bought a reaper bones thelgar half-blood. Its a Half-orc Barbarian. He is bald headed but I wanna try and sculpt a bear headress on his head. How should I go about that?

>>46835618

those aren't marines. they are summoned demons taking the vague form of marines.

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This guy is going to be my new Devastator Squad sergeant. I didn't see any reason to waste a set of stabilizer legs on a guy without a heavy weapon.

>>46835148
Underrated post.

I cannot imagine how many pics do you have just in case they come in handy.

>>46834882
Anyone have input?

i can get 3 boxes for ~$100

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>>46832922
>>46832992
khorne red with evil sunz scarlet and a 50/50 glaze to blend them together
>>46833217
maybe the rhinox hide is too diluted for the camera to pick up, but there is some there. they're extracts from the book of lorgar or the teachings of the legion's eminent apostles.

it's not all exactly done however since i plan when all 10 are done and based i'll inspect each and edit bits, i'm unsure whether to add battle damage and what terrain/theme i should base them with

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>>46837764
>what terrain/theme i should base them with

You could always go with "Perfectly-Manicured 41st Millennium Golf Course". It's *really* easy!

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So i finished my second dominus, did some conversion the joke i got running with my friends that he is Grandpa Dominus.
Still gotta do some touchups,highlights and the base but im pretty happy with him so far!

>>46837764
It triggers my autism to see mismatched armor, like this one could swap his torso with the right of the otherboic and you'd get a proper mk3, but it is typical of chaos marines so I can't blame you.

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>>46838042

>>46831528
What am I supposed to do? Wait all day for every single solitary gluing? Spend all day remaking one fucking staff?

>>46838057
Marines with mismatched armor are all over the place. Can't always be issued a full suit, so they'll just put together a suit of whatever is available. Forgeworld literally sells models designed this way.

>>46838121
The "I don't want to put the effort in" argument doesn't go down too well in these parts, especially given that you're doing a relatively intensive conversion to start with.

If a thing's worth doing, it's worth doing properly.

>>46838121
pinning

>>46838121
>What am I supposed to do?

Git gud.

This could involve some kind of splint, a suitably uneven surface to rest things on, pinning, a different type of glue, plain old patience, or whatever.

As it is, you've fucked up. And we're not going to ignore that just because you can't be arsed to not fuck up.

>>46838193
Sorry... I got overly excited about it and, was eager to put the idea together asap, didn't mean to get defensive, you're right, sadly I can't fix misaligned pieces with plastic cement, and mold lines are a bitch to fix with only an exacto, do I fix this one or just take my time on the other 4?

>>46838241
>sadly I can't fix misaligned pieces with plastic cement

Chop chop. Cut it off at the joint, give each side a new, flat, perpendicular surface, glue again.

>>46838271
Just... demolish what I did? That's pretty sever, how often to converted have to go backwards like this?

>>46838288
>how often to converted have to go backwards like this?

As often as they fuck up. At least this is a quick and easy fix.

>>46838042
>>46838083
Please learn the proper camera usage. Its machine spirit is obviously fucking pissed at you.

>>46834792
Oh no, boo hoo.

>>46838057
CSMs cannibalize any armour they can get in the 41st millenium yeah, unless they have some kind of dark mechanicum artificer there's very little chance they'd ever at one time maintain an uniform suit of plate unless there original from the heresy had survived 10,000 years later. then again these are vets of the long war, the thinblood chapters that turn to chaos after that no doubt have full mk7 suits

>>46834819
It's really not. An entirely new technology is needed.

Why do people assume that everything follows Moore's law and will just get better and cheaper every year?

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>>46835232
These doods. Sexy af

>>46833785
Am I looking at men of Dol Amroth? My fucking negro

>>46837802
oh god that basing. That must have taken a whole 10 second for the whole board tho.

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>>46838883
>oh god that basing. That must have taken a whole 10 second for the whole board tho.

How long have you been playing 40K?

>>46838864

those are pretty cool.

>>46834019

Apparently it does, but you want the "old" version that Homebase stock, and not the commonly available Citrus Blast one. Though I bought a presumably "new" one in Asda and that seemed to work fine.

Doesn't stink like Dettol either, man I used it to strip some of my first marines, never again.

New to conversions what is pinning, I saw it mentioned with the croc guard guy

>>46839863
you drill a hole on both sides of the joint, and insert a metal pin as a reinforcing rod, when glue the joint, similar to rebar in concrete

>>46839970
Ahh, so in the example with that guys staff, he'd need a very thin drill and maybe a segment of paperclip, reminds me of the pins the had in my ankle, glad they were removable

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>>46839863

What >>46839970 said.

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>>46839300
Everything went wrong when they abandoned goblin green bases.

Another necron player, trying to see if I can make a female conversion without hitting butterface syndrome

>>46840309
To make a Necron Lady, you need to widen the hips and reduce the torso size some.

>>46838875
Yes you are, some more bowmen, mounted knights and axmen of Lossarnach and we can fight for the glory of Gondor

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Infinity Ariadna Merovingian Teseum Tankette

>>46840140

I remember many many moons ago in GW stores.

Bases had to be Goblin Green + flock to get on the table. As kids we just did what we were told.

One adult who came in who had brown bases was told he couldn't play in the store...

>>46840432
I think I just dislike hoe blocky the skull head is for my plans

>>46835618
Did you paint those, or did you get them out of a treasure chest at your dentist's office?

>>46841615
>treasure chest at your dentist's office

Is this a U.S. thing or what?

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>>46840541
Deploying counter-measures.

>>46841679
Your personal collection I assume?

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>>46831528
that filename

>>46841630
We have them in Denmark as well, I think.

>>46841630
Think it's a relatively common thing in pediatric dentistry. Seen it up in canada too.

Kids hate the dentist. A toy for going through with it can sometimes help.

>>46841990
Lame, my dentist always let me pick out a toothbrush and dental floss as a reward

>>46837764
Why does he have a purity seal?

>>46841984
>>46841990

We Britbongs got a sticker, in my experience.

>>46842051
>not having impurity seals
>not writing blasphemies on parchment and attaching them to your armour
>not invoking the favor of the dark gods with your dank rhymes

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>>46840952
>GW doesn't let a man play in their store because of a fucking base color

Some things never change, eh?

>>46838864

they look cool but not anymore aerodynamic or streamlined than loyalists.

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How's my tank look?

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>>46842054
>a sticker
In Legoland we get to have a wide variety of choices, I always went with either the skateboard keychain or the bouncy ball. They also have many different smiley stickers to choose from.

>>46842131

nice GIF

>>46842229
Everything is impresive exept the tank treads. A few washes of seraphim sepia or agrax earth shade might help.

>>46842049
I got my teeth back, 5 of them so far. Too bad one was shattered and another visibly rotten.

Oh, and try asking for used dentistry tools, they're handy for green stuff sculpting (boil them before use).

>>46842098
>dank rhymes
I see your point heretic

>>46842306
I tried some strong tone wash from Army Painter, but I guess it wasn't enough. I'll definitely give a few washes of Agrax Earth shade a try, thanks for the advice.

>>46842392
Happy to help

>>46842229
>How's my tank look?
Flipped.

>>46842229
I'm going to be embarking on a big painting project in a few days, and I'll have to do a bunch of russes. Did you follow a guide? Yours looks really good. Have any tips?

>>46842486
That was actually my first vehicle, and I just winged it. Used some masking tape to help with the camo stripe. As for highlights, simple dry brushing.

I took my models out of a simple green bath that took way longer than I had planned (a month instead of a week, thanks work!) and after scrubbing most of the paint and primer off, I noticed something... when the models dried, their grey plastic is a lighter shade than unpainted models.

Is this supposed to happen or did I fuck them somehow?

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Legionfag that asked if there were tutorial here, didnt find any so i decided to go whatever i wanted with some steel legion drab, this is what i did so far. What wash/highlight you suggest for the trenchcoat? also should i apply the wash and then do the belts/bedrolls and the other details? or just make them now and then apply the wash? its the first time i make small miniatures that are not space marines so im sure i will fuck up something

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>>46841887
>Your personal collection I assume?

It's a pretty obscure anime reference, but I'm a Shirow fan, so I got it. The tank looks familiar (like Bonaparte), too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faiR1hzmQdI&t=19m5s

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>>46841615
>Did you paint those, or did you get them out of a treasure chest at your dentist's office?

I did indeed paint them. Remember, we're talking about beginner mistakes here. This would've been over 25 years ago.

>>46842841
What is this weeb shite? I was just trying to be edgy.

>>46840541
I didn't know stretch armstrong had a sister

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>>46841887
>>46842841
>>46842925
Fucking Hilarious

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>>46842841
W-what is the context to the dicks??

>>46842354
>Oh, and try asking for used dentistry tools, they're handy for green stuff sculpting (boil them before use).

I'll be darned. Never would've thought of thought. I bought a set of picks and scrapers ("civilian" version of dental tools, I guess) for cheap at Harbor Freight Tools.

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>>46843056
skip to 19 minutes for serious wut

>>46843139
I saw them dropping from the sky, why? why would they be dropping down like that?

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>>46843056
>W-what is the context to the dicks??

Jump to 19:05 in the video I linked in >>46842841.

Buaku's gang deploys giant inflatable phalluses to deter pursuit by the Tank Police, but they're no match for Leona and her mini-tank Bonaparte (pic related).

Look at the girl and the tank in >>46840541. If >>46842925 is trying to claim he's not referencing Dominion, he's full of shit.

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Working on my genestealers

>>46842841
This man has it.

Man, now I want to start modelling some dicks as tank traps.

>>46843200
I'm >>46842925 I genuinely did not. I swear on me mum. This is some massive coincidence, I don;t even watch weeb shit!

>>46843200
>If >>46842925 is trying to claim he's not referencing Dominion, he's full of shit.

He didn't post the dildo forest picture.

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>>46842202
I dunno, I feel the helmet and jump back design is at least more sleek looking than the current Raptor models.

Also I adore their feet.

I never had any (they weren't welcome in my sluggish Death Guard), but I imagine those feet and the flames made them a bitch to play with. The Aspiring Champion especially looms like he'd snap off way too easily

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>>46843357
>I imagine those feet and the flames made them a bitch to play with. The Aspiring Champion especially looms like he'd snap off way too easily

It helped that they were metal, but yeah... by no means indestructible!

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Planning to "redefine" an old classic tactical squad of mine... should I move up to the 32mm bases? I was all set to go 25MM ...

>>46844166
32 mms look so much better, and imo are much more satisfying to field as well. Tac squads take up more space, and are less susceptible to blast templates. Plus you can give them sweet diorama bases as well. I just moved all my Mantis Warriors to them, and will eventually move my IW and Thousand Sons as well.

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I don't have anything against airbrushing, but bad airbrushers are so common and airbrushing is so easy that it pisses me off everytime someone tries to claim airbrushing is "just another tool" and "takes as much skill as regular painting".

I actually airbrush myself and it's so piss easy and fast it IS almost like "cheating". Unless you're free-handing fucking murals on Harley motorcycles with your airbrush, don't try to pretend your airbrushed models prove you're a skilled painter.

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>>46844166

>>46844527
>cheating
you're getting your minis done at a faster rate with air brushing, but what does it matter?

how is using a different way of painting, cheating?

>>46844569
I think he specifically means the easy blending, the gradients you can get with zero effort compared to the skill it takes to use a brush to get those transitions

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>>46823884
A Veteran Sergeant I'm doing up for my 30k Raven Guard

>>46828944
Metal as fuck.

>>46844527
If there are two ways to get a result and you knowingly choose the slower option that takes more skill then you're a skilled moron, but a moron all the same.

>>46844569

The guy in that image can't even paint at all but can still airbrush well.

Speaking of airbrushes, have we got a consensus starter airbrush/compressor yet? I've got a bunch of rhino-chassis vehicles to paint, and the thought of doing the basecoat with a brush makes me want to kill myself.

>>46844929

Maybe if you only care about the end result, but if that were the case might as well buy world class commissioned armies.

Painting should be about the journey. There's nothing wrong with airbrushing, but bad airbrushers and self-righteous, hypocritical, and arrogant airbrushers (sort of like you) are the problem.

>>46844967

If you're just base coating a cheap single action or $20 nameless Chinese dual action is good enough, but a decent dual action from a reputable brand is so much more pleasurable to use.

The most recommended are a $100-150 Iwata or Badger.

The compressor needs to be quiet enough and powerful enough, and you definitely want a tank. You can get a silent tank compressor but the silent part makes the money skyrocket. Expect to spend $100 minimum on a decent compressor. You also need moisture traps and hoses which aren't always included.

>>46844929
>if you don't airbrush you're a moron

And you're a faggot who probably sucks at painting regardless of his airbrush.

Anyone that knows a good paintscheme for Word Bearers that doesn't cost an arm like GW's bundle?

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Finally got a test model done for my dudes, I posted an older attempt earlier in this thread.

>>46845117
Not sure I like the helmet being gold, it feels too... busy?

>>46845117
I like the gold helmet, but feel like it's too bright. I think a sepia wash might match the rest of the scheme a little better.

>>46844968
>>46845065
>They think I own an airbrush

I have a problem with people who discount paintjobs because they used X tool.

What are the actual problems with airbrushes, in your opinions? Are they bad because they make a certain level (which blatantly isn't the top standard) of painting available to people with less skill?

The only arrogant airbrusher I see starting shit is >>46844527

>>46845117
Helmet would benefit from a little more muted gold.

>>46823884
Hey /wip/, who makes the best black wash? And who makes the best black spray?

>>46845175

Sounds good to me, I'll give that a shot. Purple in the recesses also helps mute the yellow, I've found.

MouseMuffins used to run my FLGS back in the day and he did that with his lamenters

>>46845117
Maybe try gold trim on the shoulder pads and painting the round bit on his chest gold to make it more cohesive? Or maybe just gold on the chest bit and a gold bolter.

>>46845117
What did you do for the gold? Is that Retributor gold or is is something else?

>>46845458

Cassandora yellow over Leadbelcher + ironbreaker.

>>46845458
I think he glazed with cassandra yellow over metal

>>46827005
Love the Counterblast minis. So characterful. I've got the Lancers and GDC starters from the first Kickstarter.

Just a shame the campaign rules blow chunks.

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Been working on some World Eaters, any thoughts? I think I might have ruined it with blood splatters.

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Just a few details then some tidying up left to do. Proxying them as Beasts of Nurgle - I'm not a big fan of the official model.

>>46845660
I think the blood spatters look perfect. Not too much, and def looks like they just killed some loyalists.

>>46844929
Now now anon, this is /wip/, not /40kgen/

>>46845117
As a counterpoint to the other feedback I really like the gold and think it will work well with red eyes

>>46845660
I think you went a little too far with the blood on the one in the back, the other two though are just right and look great.

>>46844527
lol you're such a salty loser, fuck off you pedantic cunt

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What do you think about the beakie marines from rogue trader?

I found a dude in my country, even my city selling the box of 30 dudes for 20 bucks. Was it a good deal?

The box is fucked up from all points of view but whatever.

Do these marines match in size with the newer ones? I've got a box of space marines on it's way to me and I kept 5 sprues (10 marines) for size testing and see if I can do anything to transform these guys into "sort of" space wolves or if I'll go with the lamenters chapter paint.

Postan 1/7

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>>46846920
2/7

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>>46846943
3/7

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>tfw the forge world doors don't fit because they're too small
>tfw the metal bolters are a pain in the dick to build
>and then you realize after you put the first on you built the second backwards by an accident

This fucking land raider is cursed I swear to god

>>46845885
>>46846091
Cheers lads, I'm wandering what to do about the bases too. I was thinking rubble, like a ruined city kind of thing.

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>>46846964
4/7

>>46846920
>>46846943
>>46846964
They're about 3/4th the height of the modern space marine, but some creative cutting on the legs can make it less noticeable. Still, I almost feel like it's a shame to assemble them after all these years. Maybe that's nostalgia talking.

>>46846967
>ever keeping the metal crusader now that there's a plastic one

>>46846920
Too small to match up. Cutting up those models would be a crime anyways, paint them RT style.

>>46846920
>>46846943
>>46846964

well that's a "good" deal if you are into vintage. most of the people wanting those models have them for 20 years.
If you like them just make mold out of the sprues, the models have no details or option compared to modern marine.

If that guy had that box lying around trying to sell it for 20 years that gives you a rough idea of how much people are interested in. Price is fair.

>>46844538
Sweet mods there man, I know how fiddly it is to pose those dudes as standard so it's even more impressive to me.

>>46846967
>tfw the forge world doors don't fit because they're too small
email forgeworld about this, high price but high customer service, i got refund more than one time.

>tfw the metal bolters are a pain in the dick to build
It's metal you can literally bruteforce them to unglue or literally use any solvent overnight

>and then you realize after you put the first on you built the second backwards by an accident
Accident as in mental deficiency ?

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>>46847024
5/6 (deleted one because low quality)

>>46847032
I thought the same to be honest but I had like 15 sprues, I kept 5 sprues (4 sprues with bolters and 1 sprue with the sergeant and a powerfist) like the one little box they used to sell with 10 marines only but I don't have the box, I almost want to print that box on cardboard and make my own box, set these in, print the little instruction page and set it for collection. Still thinking about it tho.

Also, all of these marines are kind of squatting too so that might be the cause of their lower height.

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>>46846920
>Do these marines match in size with the newer ones?

Did you scroll right past >>46842922?

Here's a different view: 1st Edition plastic RTB-01, 1st Edition metal (Johnny), 3rd Edition plastic.

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>>46844527
>>46844527

at least people with airbrush don't end up like pic related and THIN THEIR PAINT.

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>>46847141
>all of these marines are kind of squatting too

Indeed!

>>46847128
>email FW
didn't buy them from FW, picked them up off the GUY I bought the land raider from

>brute force them
Already did, thank God for metal I guess

>mental deficiency
I wish you could see how little marks there are to go off of here. It's scary easy to get it flipped around and not realize it

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>>46847064
I'm not necessarily into vintage per say, but hey, it's a big lot of marines to me, granted, of lower quality too in terms of details.

>>46847141
6/6

>>46847238
Holy shit, thanks a lot man, now I have a visual comparison before I get my space wolves.

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Here he is again, with blue shoulder pads.

Thoughts?

>>46838241
It took a little bit of getting used to, but I lightly scrape my hobby knife against the mold lines. Believe me it's doable, just practice on some sprue or another bit.

>>46847648

For some reason it always uploads sideways from my phone, not cool but you guys get the idea.

>>46842840
Work on your smaller details, finish them, clean up the bassist on your trench coat and then finish that too.

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Painting a Jap. This is pretty close to finished. Any tips?

>>46848327
Brighter highlights, and thin your wash to 50/50.

>>46847648
I prefer this to the first one, looks good.

>>46847327
Are you sure it's not recasted (and thus smaller) resin ? Any proof of that guy buying it from FW instead of yoyhammer ?

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I've been having trouble controlling my airbrush lately. Just noticed the bend in the tip, could this be why. Pic very related.

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In exchange for help a WIP shot of my Slaanesh Army.

>>46846967
>>46848682

FW Rhino and LR doors are always too small you dumb newfags. Resin shrinks when it cures. Plastic doors are also always too big for FW's resin door frames. It's stupid.

>>46844527
this post reeks of churchanon

>>46845847
very nice

>>46849130
Love the dude on the reak also where is the deamon prince from?

>>46849540

You faggots think your miniatures are modeled well when you don't even provide a point of reference? Why don't you morons try adding some dioramic elements to the base.

>>46849569
guessing it's a Sophie from Reaper?

>>46849569
It's a 54mm Sophie from Reaper.
>>46849661 guessed right.
So umm...Anyone can tell me if that bent needle tip is the cause of my problems with my airbrush. I am getting splattering issues, and having trouble at time controlling where the pant goes.

>>46849130
>people complain about GW paint prices
>buy entire case of Vallejo paints even though you'll only use like 33% of the colors

>>46849857
Probably something more like 40% and it's the airbrush paints. I'm painting for 5 armies so we shall see how that goes. I also got it discounted from The Warstore so I didn't pay full retail on it.

>>46849893

It was just some random sarcasm. The entire Vallejo case probably costs less than what GW would cost to paint 5 different armies

People who complain about paint prices are stupid though, even though GW paint price has gotten very high after the two recent price hikes. People used to whine about GW paint costing $3.25 and Vallejo paint costing $3.

>>46849504
Been in the hobby for 4 years but this is the first land raiders I've ever had and the first FW resin. Only resin I'm used to is Victoria Lamb, max mini, and mad robot, all of which actually fit.

Plus the plastic on this damn land raider is warped a bit of something. The top of the hull took forever to get to stick even with plastic glue.

Also holy fucking shit, this land raider weighs a ton with all these metal bits. Only model I have that is heavier is my five 100% metal dreads.

>>46849986

The old FW vehicles kits (and FW vehicles in general) are HORRIBLE for fitment.

The problem is their workers pull them out of the mold hot and put them on a table with the huge gates attached, causing sags and bends, and the rapid cooling shrinks the doors and holes.

>>46850037
is that seriously what they do? what the fuck?

guess they don't have to stop because they know they'll still make a shitload of money

>>46850037
Yeah I'm just glad I got them super cheap. Lesson learned, won't be buying FW vehicles anytime soon now.

Do their infantry suffer from stuff like this as well?

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>>46850252
Well, people tend to get all defensive if you bring up stuff that FW doesn't do well, so all the bad things usually get blamed on recasts. You could observe that in this thread.

>>46850259
Their full resin vehicle casts are great, same goes for their infantry kits. It's just older resin-on-plastic vehicle kits that don't do so well.


On a side note, i've finished rebasing my rubics. Yay.

>>46850252

It's probably cheaper to do it that way. Customers either fix it themselves or call for a replacement which is cheaper than having a worker stand around waiting for it to properly cool down and carefully extract it (while on UK wages).

Faster and cheaper to just pump that shit out and let the customers handle it or constantly give them replacements since you're pumping out so many.

This is why chinese recast vehicles are magically not as shitty as FW ones despite the fact that chinese recasts are often inferior to FW ones for infantry (despite what the recastfags will try to tell you), because Chinese labor is cheap and they actually remove the pieces properly from the mold for their customers.

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I have but two questions for you /WIP/

Are synthetic brushes an obstacle to good painting

and

Is there a better chaser to vodka than greasy+salty solid food?

Currently munching a $1.00 Chicken Junior from BK between taking swigs of the cheapest 1.75 Liter bottle of vodka money can buy.

Never have I felt more confidence and enthusiasm in finally picking up a brush


Seriously I think this Junior Chicken from BK is the perfect chaser what the fuck is wrong with me

No really though I'm torn between buying brushes from miniature paints companies at a markup, buying high quality synthetic and calling anyone else a richfag, or buying some good entry level "real" quality natural hair brushes like Rosemary & Co

>>46850436
>Are synthetic brushes an obstacle to good painting

Not if they form a sharp point and have a wide reservoir (they are very thick at the base, instead of being just a few strands).

Don't eat while you paint and don't paint while drunk. The fact that you think drunken painting and poor brush choices will lead to anywhere good the next morning says a lot about your current habits, so I would advise against it.

Rosemary & Co aren't that much cheaper than Raphael 8404 so if you're going to buy synthetic then just go for a better company if you can find one for close to the same price. Otherwise just stay with a sharp synthetic.

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>>46850436
>Is there a better chaser to vodka than greasy+salty solid food?

not even kidding.

>>46850487
>poor brush choices
Hey now I did my googling an Rosemary ain't nothing really wrong compared to most miniature's company brushes.

>>46850500
No fucking way. It's before my generation. I've only got a voltage or code red as my inbetween beverage right now ironically as a millennial

I'll look for i.t Any other reccomendations?
I've got this theory, salt and fatty both have such quick and genetically coded responses it overrides any "this is poison" response. I used to have a hard time doing hard liquor until a friend explained his to me about pizza+gin, and now I'm halfway through a liter of vodka having to correct every other word as i go.

>>46850305
>2nd attempt
Looking sexy as fuck bro.

Each time I see Thousand Sons helmets I'm reminded of Rusty's sage advice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N8XyCndg0U&t=3m5s
Skip to 3m5s if I fucked this up again.

>>46850540
That doesn't work here.

>>46850610
Working after the second attempt here >>46850608 on my end, anon.

>>46850556
Also, give me some soundcloud our youtube music links or some shit while I'm out of it. Senior year university man just weeks from finals I'm halfway between celebratinga dn shooting myself
so I don't get banned from /tg though to keep on topic

I'm really tempted to buy a paint kit/set of paints, I mean even before downing copious quantities of booze.

Is it a better idea to buy as you go, or get a painting set EG army painter mega set, reaper HD paint sets, citadel paint sets, etc.

I keep eyeballing the army painter mega set, but I'm not sure I'll ever actually empty every single pot despite having solid plajns post-graduation for Warmachine, Kings of War, etc.

Anyone have any experience modeling and painting in barracks?

>>46850556

The poor brush choices was mostly you trying to compensate with actual good sable/kolinsky/synthetic brushes with what I"m assuming is a random shitty dollar store synthetic.

I mean, if you're asking "do good brushes really matter?" because you don't want to "waste money" on actual good brushes, I can't just assume you know what you're doing. Most reasonable people would assume the exact opposite.

>>46850630
Anon, believe me, you can't embed videos set to a time code. It doesn't work.

>>46850556
>I've got this theory, salt and fatty both have such quick and genetically coded responses it overrides any "this is poison" response

This is called "umami". Japanese scientists describe it as a completely new flavor alongside sweet, salty, sour, bitter, etc. It's the flavor you get from meat, delicious broth, etc. It's the "savory" flavor.

>>46850685
And I just told you it's working fine on my end now, skips exactly to the point I intended it to. Maybe it's browser related? I'm on Firefox.

>>46850681
Honestly it's more of a "are sable brushes a meme?" than anything
I've got shitty dollars store (ha ha actually Michael's) synthetics and they're not terrible in that I try a new technique from youtube and that does more to improve than me struggling against my shitty brushes
I don't doubt they're not a waste of money in terms of longevity (though I hear synthetic s aren't hard to revive) but I queston NEEDING natural brushes

>>46850704
Yeah "unami". I've got my vegan sister who puts dried yeast on popcorn and it's the fucking shit for unami.
seriously though I'm listening to electronica at the moment and want to blow my mind in the 8 hrs I have for personal time including sleep

>>46850685
>>46850723
works on my machine

>>46850755

Sables are popular because they retain water well for thinned paints (better than synthetic), and they have sharp, fine points (more easily done than synthetics).

They're also softer and have less snap and stiffness than synthetics, but this isn't exactly a pro and can be a con. Depends on your own preferences.

You'd probably see some improvement using a a better synthetic from a good brand. You can't just claim they won't help if you've never even used one. You don't even need to try new techniques. My layering and precision improved drastically simply because I didn't have to struggle with threadbare non-kolinsky sable brushes and just used a sharp kolinsky brush.

>>46850811
kolinsky specifically for naturals? What about synthetics?

Do need to try one though. I heard on /tg/ reccomendation the army painter Regiment brush is both widely available and OK quality brush for Kolsinsky. Granted I don't believe and magic
seriously though post a playlist i'm wasting my buzz on shit I've heard 100 time before

>>46850755
>dried yeast on popcorn

That girls needs some sausage in her, one way or the other.

>>46850884

I think Taklon is the one you want for synthetics. Brand matters too. There are shitty kolinsky makers, and even more shitty synthetic makers.

Are there any Australian guys here that can recommend me a good primer?

Army Painter is $25-30 per can, which way more than fucking GW charges.

I've had a look at Bunnings, but all I've seen is enamel sprays rather than actual primers

>>46850884

AP brushes are cheap for a reason. You're wasting your time. For all this deliberating and trying to buy a bunch of $5 AP brushes you could buy a single $10-13 Raphael 8404 and be set for life, if not several years, and with better quality.

If you prefer synthetic I guess W&N would be the brand but honestly I don't know. I've got some W&N synthetics and they are extremely stiff, which I don't like.

>>46850891
Dude she has it the due is like over 6 foot 2 or some shit, not like she's needing to get alid. Serioulsly though yeast on popcorn is great. Not like I decided this after disvoering how to chug vodka. It's upt here with cheese-corn, fucking addictive. Better than cheese, bu tit's literally ferzee dried cheese.

Better yet your can buy yeast flakes as a seperate seasoning

>>46850941
>Dude she has it the due is like over 6 foot 2 or some shit, not like she's needing to get alid. Serioulsly though yeast on popcorn is great. Not like I decided this after disvoering how to chug vodka. It's upt here with cheese-corn, fucking addictive. Better than cheese, bu tit's literally ferzee dried cheese.

Ok, man, lay of the yeast, you're talking gibberish now.

>>46850884
I swear by my WN Series 7, size 2 (note: NOT miniature Series 7, those are not what you want despite the name). It has definitely got a different "feel" from a synthetic, and it comes to a sharper point than much smaller synthetics. My results might not be a ton better, but it really is a joy to paint with. You can get one for $20-$25 - yes, that's a lot for a brush, but how many figures is that really? It's the second best investment I've ever made in painting pleasure, after my ghetto tupperware-and-paper-towel wet palette. A fine Kolinsky brush is really worth trying out. Worst case scenario, you've wasted the price of a half dozen figs.

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>>46850938
This stuff has done a pretty damn good job for my miniatures. Doesn't clog details, lots of primer for your buck, works in up to 90 degree heat and cheaper than most model primers. Not sure how common it is in the deathworld down under, though. Sorry.

>>46851020
We've actually got that stuff down here, but I was put off by the rust-oleum thing since that made me think it was for rust protection rather than models.

I'll give it a go on some sprue tomorrow, thanks anon

>>46850939
Ah I hear AP brushes good for the money. Honestly Raphael and Windsor hit the meme alarm.

>>46850981
Fine. Will settlef or playlist or more vodka. Holy shit did not expect import to be this good. but bought the cheapest seriously expect /tg/ bro enough to help buzz. Really though cannot recommend yeast flakes enough. Did not expect how good they would be. Like the important parts of Parmesan cheese.
Really though part ofo m hopes for bro part of /tg to understand the

>>46851016
>w7
if you swear but aifshliasdkj fuck it I'm hardworking over what paint brushes will feel
The point? Is that the decisive factor? Somehow I thought it was the finish texture?
I have the same pallette, I'll try a natuural brush out

>>46850681
>>46850487
>Don't eat while you paint and don't paint while drunk. The fact that you think drunken painting
Eh, was thinking audio boooks with fewer shots?

>>46851083
Please drink some water, anon.

>>46851124
Thanks bro, I got a palette of water bottle though. The tap water here is shit. I appreciate concern though.

>>46847648
Is that just

Silver into lighter silver dry brush into blue wash over and over?

Might do some Ultramarines like that.

>>46851041
Make sure you get the primer and not the paint! I was actually able to procure a sample of this stuff from a friend when I went to paint my dudes. I was worried the lighter green would 'nt work with the black model primer I had on hand. Stuff worked great. Like it says on the tin, it bonds well to plastic, and is a nice neutral color for models with both light and dark colors.

>>46838883
It has a classic look, nothing wrong with that.

>>46838883
The noob filter strikes again.

Can someone give me some tips on making an affordable board and basic terrain?

>4'x8' wood is like $50 from Bunnings
>green felt to cover that is at least as much
>black sandpaper or tape as roads
>chopped up doormat as crop fields
>shove a bit of foam or something under the felt for a hill that nothing can stand on without falling over

Halp pls?

>>46826136
I hate to ask but how you do you aply it?

A toothbrush? pouring into a bowl and letting it soak?

>>46851175

It's Leadbelcher with Ironbreaker on the zenithal areas, followed by two coats of Guilliman blue.

Would recommend for Ultramarines any day.

>>46851487
http://austore.frontlinegaming.org/fat-mat%3A-grassy-plains-6x4/dp/22

>>46851813
Yeah I saw this, but it's more expensive than green felt, which I'd be happy with for the time being. I'm really just shocked that simple wood and plain felt is so expensive.

>>46851041
ive been using the black matt version of this forever anon and it works beautifully so dont worry

>>46849130
FIX THE GOLD GOING OVER THE PURPLE ON THE SHIELD

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>>46851830
I've seen some people get one of those shipping pallets and then nail a really thin sheet of wood over the top

You could probably get the pallet for free if you asked the staff at a supermarket or whatever

>>46852082
I have a table, but it's only 5'x3'. I only need a thin sheet of wood. But a 2400mmx1200mmx7mm piece of wood is like $40, and it goes up to like $70 if you want 17mm.

>>46852102
>I only need a thin sheet of wood. But a 2400mmx1200mmx7mm piece of wood is like $40, and it goes up to like $70 if you want 17mm
Try a Goodwill outlet, not the retail store, but where they take all the nasty and soiled shit. Might find what you need there on the cheap. That or a flea market or something along those lines, places you can purchase used stuff. Anything new always comes at a premium.

>>46852326
I live in Australia, but I gather Goodwill is some sort of op shop. They might have some wood but I think it'd mostly be picture frames and such, I'm not skilled enough at woodworking to bind together mismatched wood or fix it up to be nice. I don't even think they'll have what I need desu. I'd be happy to buy second hand or even of slightly dubious quality, but I don't think there's as many options where I live.

>>46852349
Try other outlets, you might find wood cheaper than you would at bunnings.

>>46852349
>I live in Australia
Well shit, no wonder you're paying more for wood.
>but I gather Goodwill is some sort of op shop
Yah, it's a corporation we have here in the states that people donate used stuff to that they then resell. Can find a lot of materials cheap there, especially at the outlets. As far as stuff like that in Australia I really have no clue. I'm trying to think of stuff that might use thin sheets of particle board that you could buy used on the cheap but I'm drawing a blank. Wish I could be of more help to you, anon.

>>46840952
truly the minds of morons prevail in today's society

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>>46852438
>I remember many many moons ago
>prevail in today's society

Not to say that that your assertion isn't a constant, but it seems like you really only skimmed anon's post.

>>46852471
I've got to say though, my local GW rep is an utter kill-joy.

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>>46824909
I just dug -pic related- out of rogue trader's chapter approved, to congratulate you on your nice paintjob and the fact that you brought field police back! Made me consider to paint a 5-man squad of Field-Police!

>>46824399
I am with the other guys here, you did a great job anon.

On another note, anybody here used the Vallejo extra opaques?

>>46851983
Thanks for noticing I'll take care of that.

>>46845117

Needs green eye lenses and you're good to go, though I'd also make the shoulder trim gold to blend it more with the scheme.

>>46845660

Teal (greenish blue) eyelenses would work much better with the blood. Right now it looks like they rubbed their lenses after ripping out someone's guts

WHERE AM I?

>>46846920

That's actually cheap as fuck, on ebay those boxes go for 150-200 easily. I don't have time to start a rogue trader army but occasionally I'll pick up an old mini when I run into it. With these you could start a recasting fiesta and modify away.