What do you think of this quest and party idea? two empires

>>46731154
Some worldbuilding to do, but mostly I want it to be about the party members fighting, bonding, and deciding to become a new rogue "family" that leaves both empires together to flee the war. IDK it should end with them all peacefully living on a farm together, far away.

>>46731154
I really like it. Don't have a lot to say about it, it's perfect IMO.

>>46731234
wow, thanks
question- do you think it'd be better in a more traditional empire setting, or a more fantasy-like world?

>>46731276
Fantasy world iscool, but in reality you can apply this to whatever setting you want.

>>46731154

Why would the opposing party murder the prince as it is implied in your scenario? That serves no purpose at all and just gives the enemy a casus belli. It's retarded and nobody with a hint of brain would do that. If they really wanted the "king's least favourite son" dead for some reason, they'd send a group of rangers to murder him inside the borders of his empire when he's returning, as his retinue is laughably small.

>>46732312
pretty valid question
I'd thought that maybe this "diplomatic peace mission" was organized by the King without discussing it with the enemy- ie the enemy side has no idea this troupe is coming, and could likely kill them on accident or because they're suspicious.

>>46732312
good point, it's too obviously a suicide mission

>>46732312
Then why not just have the king murder his own son? Have the party ambushed by phony outlaws/bandits (payed for by the kings vizier or something) and blame it on the opposing kingdom.

Wars have certainly been started on shakier accusations

>>46732694
perfect idea... especially if it could happen within the enemy's borders

>>46731154
>having a plot
>not a sandbox like RPGs were developed for
So fucking sick of you swine.

>>46731342

Fantasy would be cool- but in dealing with the topic of warring nations, having distinct styles for either side would work well. For example a nation that has specialized in early firearms vs a kingdom that relies on magic

>>46732749
>not asking your party what they would prefer to play
>not making player agency key in plot-driven campaigns

It's like you're too autistic to talk to your group about what you want to play

>>46732811
What they want to play is adventurers who make the story instead of sitting through your crappy predetermined novel.

>>46731154

Remember: War is always a grey area. Your party may want to switch sides but give them reasons to suspect both Kingdoms are working for/against the party

>>46732844
Sure, but having a set-up isn't the same as pushing players through a novel.
In OPs set-up there's a lot of room for player agency: they could join either side of the conflict, support various claimants to the throne(s), become outlaws, try to clear their names for the murder of the prince, etc.

Most of the players I've had aren't equipped to being told to just "go out there" and "adventure"

>>46733392
>Most of the players I've had aren't equipped to being told to just "go out there" and "adventure"
This fampai. A lot of people talk up agency until they have it and then flounder because they don't know what to do. That is by no means all people who play RPGs, but to think everyone who plays can handle that is just as foolhardy as to say none of them can.

>>46731154
I really like it.
It actually sounds like it would make a pretty great novel.
Only problem I see is already pointed out >>46732312 and fixed >>46732694. so I don't have much by way of feedback.