/cofd/&/wodg/ Chronicles of Darkness and World of Darkness General

Volumes of Darkness

Chronicles of Fagness

>>46389983
I hate April Fools. Let's just hope OPP's joke isn't as bad.

>>46390090
There are tons of threads on /b/ about it. Go whine there instead.

>>46390141
No, I'll whine here and you'll fucking take it.

Who is the youngest mage in CofD. Also eho is the youngest Master?

>>46390276
Canonically? I think there was a fiction once with a preteen awakening, but nothing I remember that mentioned a particularly young Archmaster.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7qFF2v8VsaA

Mastigos

>>46390018
Your identity is finally revaled, cur!

>>46390288
There was a 7 year old awakened in one of the Legacy books. She was hailed as a goddess, and taken away from her family (rural India, btw). She is now an unhinged psychopath.

And IIRC Archmasters re-create their bodies after they return from the Supernal.

>>46390586
You know the names are randomly genreated right? Hell, I've only done the chronicle of fagness post a few times, it's at least two people, probably more that keep this... I dunno, does this count as a really shitty meme between a small group of poeple?

>>46390631
We are all faggots playing in the Chronicles of Fagness.

Who was that owod character who was a hunter with magic and werewolf stuff?

>>46390770
As was answered in the last thread: Samuel Haight.

>>46390598
Not entirely.
They exist mostly within the Astral.
They can visit the Supernal, but only for a short time, and it's fraught with risk.

>>46390782
How would you do Samuel Haight in Cofd, Anons?

>>46390770
He was never an Imbued, he was a vanilla werewolf hunter that got access to Spheres and Disciplines and then eventually died and was soulforged into an ashtray for a minor Hierarchy bureaucrat. Now, how someone actually smokes in Stygia I don't know. Maybe just having the ashtray around reminds them of smoking? That just makes it more depressing, as if Wraith needed to be a bigger downer.

>>46390839
Masturbate onto a page?

>>46390839
Wolfblooded Stigmatic Mage Skinchanger

>>46390833
No, I mean, the first time. After the Seeking succeeds and they for the Centimani. Then they return to the world, from the Supernal. And everything has changed.

>>46390839
Ordo Dracul vampire, focusing on the Mystery of Zirnitra is probably a good start.

>>46390003
Volumes of Fagness

>also
you were late by 3 posts dumb shit

>>46390631
>the names are randomly generated
>Chris Perkins

Yeah, sure.

>>46391252
No, that guy spells awfully, it's totally not Chris.

I'm confused as to oWoD rules

Does the tremere blood curse trump the normal assamite weakness for all three bloodlines, or is it in addition to

Which order do you think an artist-turned-Mage is most likely to join? I was thinking the Free Council, but I dislike how heavily science-focused their splatbook makes them out to be. Where else do you think a liberal-minded Awoken could fit in?

>>46392429

An artist could fit into pretty much all of them, so just pick the one you like best and wrap the character's deal around that.

What happened

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I'm watching pic related right now and it's literally a mixed splat chronicle.

>>46393052
>Spoiler: A Seer provided the vamp with starting capital for the hotel.

http://theonyxpath.com/5-essential-tips-to-becoming-a-successful-vitaephile-vampire-the-masquerade/

http://theonyxpath.com/pugmire-larp/

Here are the pranks.

>>46393242

They're crap.

Sadly, the days of great work like Dudes of Legend has long past.

"Premeditation," Dave's mage/beast/bastet crossover story in the Beast Fiction Anthology, was a lot of fun.

Halcyon was a great Mastigos. He was the perfect balance of smart, yet very arrogant, asshole.

I hope Dave finds a reason for him to show up again in Mage supplements or elsewhere. He and Khonsu together would be most entertaining.

>>46393277

The Paradox buyout probably put a dent in doing something in book form.

>>46393591
>>46393277
The last few years individual writers have put up little articles, they are separate from an actual april fools product.

>>46393516

It's really good, but the Bastet is by far the best.

>You rode the snake!

>>46393634
I agree that was a great part. It's also fun imagining that Halcyon be flustered when hes being questioned.

>>46393634
>>46393740
>You rode the snake!

Najat's lucky she didn't hear “—I will end you.”

Another great part,

“You know how some people think the universe
revolves around their worldview?”
Najat nodded, serious.
“Yes, they can be like that.”
“Mages?” She asked, staring at the closed door.
“Humans.

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>>46393856
Im not going to lie when Sandhya gave her speech about the nature of Beasts it was touching.
Vance screamed in pain. Sandhya felt her Horror’s satisfaction, like a starving woman given a meal.
“You said we aren’t human. That we’re monsters. Other people,” she looked at Hal, who seemed ashamed “have told me, at length, that we’re just dreams. The thing is, we’re both. We are the nightmares of the human soul; we exist to remind thinking beings that their Bright Dream is fragile. Everyone tells me that I’m an idiot to see a purpose in that…but they’re wrong.”
She crouched, feeling the pressure of Hal’s spell keeping her from going to him.
“This is what’s beyond the Dream. This is what denying your humanity looks like. Some beings belong here.” She looked at Najat, who had become fully human, smiling wearily at her. “But we don’t.”

>>46393979

Meh, Sandhya's just a "Goetia with delusions of grandeur."

>>46394073
You see that, that what Dave was afraid people would misquote him with.
That the mages opinion not fact.
He also think Sin-Eater are just people possessed by ghost.

I run my chronicles of darkness campaigns without Mages existing. Nothing of value is lost.

>>46394155
What about people who wear a ghost's corpus to become ghosts?

>>46394177
No thats a skinchanger, different thing.

>>46394163
Cool! That's exactly what's great about Chronicles of Darkness, they're entirely modifiable. I hope you enjoy your games :)

>>46394163
Well that's just like, your opinion, Zachary.

>>46394163
Congratulations on understanding how the toolbox approach works and how the entire game is meant to be used.

>>46394228

I really do wanna play a ghost skinthief sometime.

>>46394228
What happens when a ghost possesses a skinchanger who turns into a ghost? Are they a d-double ghost?

>>46394279
If Beneath the Skin proved anything it's that OPP need to stop fucking around and just update the minor template books.

>>46394155

It was a joke. Sarcasm isn't always easy on /wodg/.

Hal also stated that Sin-Eaters *technically* weren't possessed, just like Beasts.

Hal is great. He's obviously quite powerful, smart, well connected and extremely knowledgeable. He also has no problems reminding people of his virtues and talents. His well earned smugness makes his a perfect CofD mage, no less Silver Ladder Mastigos.

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>>46394338
In my next session I'm going to make a point of him dying by a tier 1 hunter running him over with a pickup truck.

>>46390018
>Chronicles of Fagness

Carry on my wayward son!

>>46394312
They need to update the major template books first.

>>46394312

There's enough minor templates to collapse into a few 2e books, so I wholeheartedly agree. Hurt Locker's a good model on how to do it, I think.

>>46394355
Why, the mage was a cool dick

>>46394355

Aww, that's cute. The little Anon has splat envy.

>tfw someone thinks a Tier 1 Hunter has reasonable any chance of running over a Mastigos who's at least an Adept.

Chronicles of Halcyon

Hey, who wouldn't want to read about Hal's supernatural shenanigans.

>>46394442
He would have a reasonable chance, even a good chance, depending on the awareness of the mage and the vehicle's stats as well as speed, etc.

You can powerwank for Mage all you want but they're not gods. It's a stupid scenario, but it's not laughable to think that someone getting hit by a speeding truck isn't going to die or be severely wounded even with beneficial magick.

>>46394338
You know what I liked about Hal, was that while he knows he is powerful he knew that alone he could not defeat Victor.

>>46394442

Hey now, hey now, that's a tier 1 Hunter with a car. Give any splat a car as a weapon and they are 20 times more dangerous. Almost all CofD denizens die to liberal applications of car.

>>46394461
>Hey, who wouldn't want to read about Hal's supernatural shenanigans.

Only if Najat the Bastet was his sidekick. That cat's got moxie!

>>46394155
Yes, but this is Beast so no gives a shit.

>>46394495
Car + fire = dead anything

>>46394511

What if we just made a car that's always on fire?

>>46394554
My god, you're a madman! You must be stopped!

>>46394495
Werewolves in war form are pretty much the one exception. And even if they do die, you just basically rammed a large bear at highway speeds. Neither you nor the car are going to be the same afterwards.

>>46394502
>Yes, but this is Beast so no gives a shit.

It only took a DaveB story starring both a mage and bastet to make a Beast remotely sympathetic.

There is an alternative universe somewhere in which DaveB was the developer of Beast, and it was actually good.

However, it does portend good things for Deviant.

>>46394554
>car that's always on fire?

Meh, that only take Matter 4 + Forces 4.

> 'Mage Supremacy'

>>46394577

Clearly the solution is to make the car from Quentin Tarantino's Death Proof!

...and then have it so that it's always on fire.

>>46394461
>>46394497
>Only if Najat the Bastet was Halcyon's sidekick. That cat's got moxie!

Chronicles of Najat

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>>46394495
Even Mummies must beware the dangers of drunk driving.

>>46394605

>using magic
>not using the cooler method, always pouring gasoline on your screaming metal death trap

I bet you don't even constantly scream while you drive your fire car around.

>>46394554
A simple enough fetishes. Maybe 2-3 dot.

>>46394623

MADD

Mummies Against Driving while Dead

Smart mummies always leave their keys with a designated cultist.

>>46394578
While at the same time boding ill for Promethean 2E. God, I *really* hope Matt learns from his fuck-ups on Beast, both mechanical and fluff.

>>46394699

It's unlikely Promethean will be nearly as problematic as Beast.

Beast was definitely experimental in nature, while Promethean already had an entire first edition to work out kinks and establish fan likes and dislikes.

Matt's a very experienced WW writer and developer, and while I haven't always liked everything he's done, Beast still stands out as terrible anomaly that will hopefully never be repeated.

>>46394578

It's not difficult to make an individual Beast sympathetic. Frank Castle's pretty much a Nemesis and people like that guy.

>>46394699
>I *really* hope Matt learns from his fuck-ups on Beast, both mechanical and fluff
That would imply Matt acknowledges his fuckups and doesn't just echo chamber himself into thinking he's the greatest Famous Game Designer ever. Matt is perfect. Therefore his games are perfect. Any observed imperfection is the result of Commie Mu- er, MRA mansplainer sabotage.

>>46390090
Their jokes are usually good, like Dudes of Legend and Scroll of Swallowed Darkness.

Unfortunately, I bet it will be some Pugmire shit.

Anyone else going to write down some of these names for NPC use?

>>46394699
Oh sweat child of summer. You haven't seen the Promethean spoilers have you?

>>46394495
>Give any splat a car as a weapon and they are 20 times more dangerous.
The car is extremely important

>>46394786

Right here, this day has been perfect for NPC names.

>>46394782

He's just a guy that got too attached to his idea and realized some of the flaws a bit too late, dude. It happens. Calm down.

>>46394615
Juana, I think I love you.

>>46394795

>oh no the game's a bit more playable now

Or is this about people making mountains out of molehill over "Rich people yacht club antagonists #22"?

Holy crap!

Did you read what people talking about in the OP forums?

DaveB has "separated" from Onyx Path. It supposedly had something to do with "creative differences" and "delayed compensation."

No one knows if it was caused by Rich or WW"s Swedish Masters.

White Wolf is doomed.

The end is nigh! The end is nigh!

>>46394820
Do you plan to save 'em and post 'em up somewhere once the day's over?
I'm too lazy to write these things down myself unless I know nobody else is going to do it for me.

>>46394699
What, you mean like completely ignoring issues playtesters bring up? Seasoned professional that Matt. No way he'll ever manage to fuck up promethean with that attitude. No sir.

>>46394872
I ̶s̶h̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ could.

>>46394857

White Wolf is already dead you fuck

>>46394857
I smell a really shitty April Fools joke

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>I want to play Mage

>>46394857
On any other day I might have felt a small stab of panic. Not today though.

>>46394857
He came out as a scalie in full Komodo Dragon suit and Rich just didn't want to be associated with something that...deviant.

>>46394922
More like

>why would you play anything other than a Mage?

>>46394771
Nah, Frank Castle's totally a Hunter who is starting to toe the line towards Slasher but will probably never actually breach it.

>>46394857

Freelancers don't "separate" from anything. They're not employees.

>>46394605
Not sure if this is a prank or if they are serious.
http://theonyxpath.com/scion-and-trinity-continuum-take-new-direction-under-storypath/

>>46394884
>Okay, what's the story there, I have to know

>>46395010
>Freelancers don't "separate" from anything. They're not employees.

You need to speak with AmyV.

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>>46395017

>>46394997

Both interpretations work, depending on how supernatural people get with Frank's backstory/motivation. The Proto-Avenger one's probably the most common and closest though.

>>46395038

AmyV was blacklisted, which isn't the same.

>>46395038
She was just blacklisted by the company, and likely most other RPG companies. That's what a person who convinces a publishing company to trust posters on /tg/ deserves.

>>46395015

>Onyx Path founder Rich Thomas, in a statement, claimed that Price had been fired in 2012.

It's the prank. I chuckled.

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>>46394932
>He came out as a scalie in full Komodo Dragon suit and Rich just didn't want to be associated with something that...deviant.

I think Dave's reptile suit is fantastic.

Besides, furries are a big WW customer demographic. How else do you explain Changing Breeds?

I never get invited to the April Fool writin'. Bah.

>>46395132
Why would you want to be part of that? Why not just write good game material rather than hokey garbage?

>>46395161

Hokey garbage is what makes life worth living!

>>46394857
>DaveB has "separated" from Onyx Path.

Dave's certainly been awfully quiet here the last few days...

I hope RIch doesn't pick Matt as the new Mage 2e developer!

>>46395115

The incredible ability for Phil Satyros Brucato to get work. See also: him writing almost all of Mage20.

>>46395301
He's been busy checking the Mage Layouts.
Soon we will have mage.

>>46395332
>Soon we will have mage.

Best. April Fool's Joke. Ever.

>>46395301
>Matt as the new Mage 2e developer!

That's not funny, today or ever.

>>46393516
Yeah, I want more of him. He was such a dick, in the best possible way. Calling out a Beast as an glorified Goetic was something Sorbian.
>>46393634
She was hilarious.

>>46393516
Anyone want to upload this story?

>>46394073
She also basically quotes Hal about that, right before she destroys Vance.

>>46395442

Search in the prior thread for the link with the final Beast PDF and Fiction Anthology.

>>46395449
She also quotes Vance about only being a monster.
Doesn't make it true.

>>46394495
True that. In my mixed campaign, our werewolf took out a idigam with a liberal application of car.

Even though Dark Eras was a big crossover book and "Premeditation" was in the Beast Anthology, most everyone is still talking about the Mage stuff.

Damn, Mage 2e better be at least half as good as all the hype or Dave's star will take a precipitous and unpleasant fall.

>>46395545
Doesn't make it not.

>>46394615
...yes.

>>46395545
>>46395449

"Goetia with delusions of grandeur" and full-fledged "monster" are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

What Sandhya is not is anything remotely human.

At least Najat was furry and fun.

>>46395628
Thats not wrong, she says that they are both monster and nightmares. To remind humans how fragile they are.

>>46395707
>To remind humans how fragile they are

Entire point and purpose of Beast splat is to be an asshole.

So bad they make Hal, a smug prick Mastigos Silver Ladder, seem like a teddy bear.

Good job, Matt.

>>46391258
Chris? Is that some shitposter or former writer?

>>46393516

link?

>>46395920

"Chris" likely refers to Chris Allen, writer for Werewolf, Mage and other gamelines, and the author of The Sundered World from Dark Eras.

He frequently posts here on /wodg/.

>>46395964

Search in the prior /wodg/ thread for the link with the final Beast PDF and Fiction Anthology.

>>46394476

Only human when surprised.

>>46394577

I AM THE ONE WHO DRIVES THE HUNT STRAIGHT INTO VALHALLA!!!!

WITNESS MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

>>46395099
>and likely most other RPG companies.
She no longer works for Catalyst Game Labs.

>>46396023

People can be surprised, very, very often.

>The Thyrsus who died because of the K-Fee coffee ad video

>>46396060

I thought she was working for then after all.

>>46394857

slowclap.gif

After reading "Premeditation," I now want to learn more about Iona and Ben.

Regularly working with Hal almost certainly has its "challenges."

>idly reading the thread
>seeing people post here then on the forums
>on the forums then here
>how the shitposts have spread
>suddenly it dawns on me
>he's right
>it truly is the chronicles of fagness

>>46396248

Nothing can stop the shitpost singularity.

Mage 2e is available on Drivethru!!!

Mage 2e is available on Drivethru!!!

Thanks the gods,

Mage 2e is available on Drivethru!!!

>>46396381
Is it fuck lad, I ain't seeing it on the front page or on there publisher page

>>46396423
Yes, it was released on April Fools without any mention of it on the Onyx path website or Monday Meeting.

>>46396448
Yeah yeah sure it is, beacuse DTRPG ain't showing shit

>>46396448

Well clearly they had to bust their post quota with that hot hot Pugmire LARP footage.

>>46396381

New releases are always on wednesday. Nice try

>>46396381
>Mage 2e is available on Drivethru!!!

I've just started reading it, but so far it's friggin' fantastic.

I absolutely cannot believe what they did with Supernal summoning. It's no wonder Dave didn't want to spoil it.

>>46396059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KlSuGNt8e4
Chrome Maws when?

>>46395561
Storytime?

>>46396608
Really?
I mean, I'm not all the way through, but I feel like what they did with yantras is better and they had no trouble spoiling that.
Maybe it'll grow on me as time goes on.

>>46394163
I run mine using the rules from Blood Sorcery.

Fuck Mages (or rather, how every writer and dev but the one on Mage, shies away from adding cosmological lore, Mages are pretty cool).

>>46396680

Wait until you get to the revised Arcana Attainments.

Absolutely brilliant!

>>46396680
>implying not one, but two people in a /wod/ thread would actually buy something

>>46396616
Personally I'm thinking their totem spirit should have started off as an actual Valkyrie (Spirit of Fallen Warriors.), but god only knows what all the essence of the things the War Boys associate with has done to it.

>>46396794
I'm sorry, are you saying you DON'T support the gaming companies you love?

>>46396833

I built a machine that I feed pirated RPG PDFs into that copies and deletes them all in an eternal cycle so that I can capture the ghost of all the lost sales and grow rich off of their ephemeral husks.

>>46396833
He's saying that most people in these threads pirate the books.

http://theonyxpath.com/onyx-path-to-go-towards-the-light/

Mage 2e gets released, DaveB cuts professional ties to OPP, Scion and Trinity become one setting and now this. What an eventful day!

>>46396643
Idigam was coming after a girl we had taken upon ourselves to protect, and we found out that it's Bane was material touched by vampires. Very specific, and annoying. We're hiding out in our usual bar, when it barges in, wrecking the place. The wolf and vampire seemingly bail, leaving me, a relatively rookie Mage, in between the idigam and it's prey. When suddenly I hear a car. The werewolf and the vampire plow through the shattered front of the bar, mowing down the beastie. It starts to pull itself up, when the wolf switches to reverse. Liberal. Application. Of. Car.

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>>46397014
I love their new look!!!

>>46397014
Okay I actually like this one, the logo is 'fantastic'

>>46397075
Love it.

>>46397135

>that MLP-esque font

That's why they pay Rich the big bucks!

>>46397135

Sparkley Path Publishing ?

>>46397014
>These will all be released within a single two-month period, but a year and a half later than expected.
Oh man. That is some self aware humor.

What the fuck is a Void-Leviathan?

>>46397075
you have a horrible ST

>>46397257
The weird shit from beyond Luna, spirits so alien they even look strange to spirits of earth.

>>46397302
As the story teller in question, I take offense to that.

>>46397163
It's still one of my favorite moments in the campaign, to be honest. The werewolf is without the funniest character, and has anger management problems. He's also our secret weapon for dangerous battles.
>>46397302
Why, exactly?

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Question: if silver does Agg to werewolves, what does lunargent (perfected silver) do?

>>46397369
Agg damage

Te cause is symbolic, not entirely chemical.

>>46397236

All I know is that I'm up for playing Monster: The Not-Really.

>>46397369

We don't yet know. Perfected metals in 2e will be first discussed in Signs of Sorcery, Mage 2'e first supplement. It's entirely possible, however, that no mention will be made of the issue.

It will likely be a matter of ST fiat unless Dave, Stew, Chris or another OP author decides to offer an ruling.

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>mourning Wraith

Actually starting a long running Wraith chronicle next week.

>>46397438
>All I know is that I'm up for playing Monster: The Not-Really.

I'm already a fan of Mage.

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>>46397302
Wait, why does he have a horrible ST?
>>46397323
The
You're on 4chan, suck it up.

>>46397470
>>46397438
>All I know is that I'm up for playing Monster: The Not-Really.
>I'm already a fan of Mage.

>Mage Supremacy

>>46397454

Hey, isn't that the cover that inspired the Deadlands game?

>>46397619

I would not know. Never really read deadlands. Also I don't know about the artwork within the Atlanta book because I'm not allowed to read cWoD material by my ST.

>>46397665

Fair enough. I hope you have fun, Wraith's great.

>tfw I realize Dave and Chris abandoned /wodg/ on April Fool's Day

>>46397369
An excellent question (this is DaveB, behind the April fool wacky-name) that we do answer.

>>46397715
I've posted three times this thread.

>>46397688
I've only played a one shot of wraith, it was bleak, it was dreary and I enjoyed it immensely.
(Character creation started with. "Who are you and what do you do for a living?" and followed by an endless questionaire consisting only of "How does your story get worse?" until the point of their deaths)

It's in the hands of a great story teller. It will follow the same continuity of our other chronicles. I am really looking forward to this abuse.

>>46397715
They no doubt have, it's just that the April fools layout blocks their names with these rando names.

>>46397749
>I've posted three times this thread.

Really? The 4chan name shenanigans even affect people who don't post anonymously. Darn.

Have you posted any comments about "Premeditation?" Your story was great, and I want to see more Hal along with info on Iona and Ben.

>>46397835

Yeah, it overrides trips and any names in the name field.

>any OPP or WW dev could show up and say whatever they want and no one would ever know, ever

>>46397369
>>46397749

Hey realDave, does Mage 2e or SoS also discuss what effect, if any, perfected iron has on changelings and the fae?

>>46397835
Yes. I talked about it in the last thread. I will not be posting the stats I wrote up for the Bastet so don't bother asking (got to keep some secrets).

>>46397865
>any OPP or WW dev could show up and say whatever they want and no one would ever know, ever

Spooky. And liberating.

and atamajakki's true name is revealed to be

>>46397874
No, but I might ask David if he has any thoughts and sneak in a sidebar if the conversation produces anything genuinely interesting.

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>hirself

>>46397919
Welcome to NWoD, please choose your pronoun.

>>46397886
>I will not be posting the stats I wrote up for the Bastet

How about Hal? Surely Hal's stats aren't a secret.

In fact, Hal is sufficiently smug and entertaining that I wouldn't object if he became a Mastigos signature character.

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>>46397919
CofD goes out of it's way to be inclusive and tolerant because the REAL horror is not monsters, but transphobia

>>46397865
>any OPP or WW dev could show up and say whatever they want and no one would ever know, ever
How is that different from...taking off your trip to shitpost with all the other plebs? They could always do that.

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>>46397919
I've never really thought of a Promethean made from multigendered parts. And I've made two trans Prometheans.

Also, what book is that from? Carnies are great WoD fodder.

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>>46397749
If you are DaveB can you answer a question I got about nagas, shouldn't the Naga counter magic oppose total potency?

>>46397969
"I'm sorry Dave I can't let you do that..."

>>46397980
It's from Dark Eras

>>46397980
The only prommie I ever made was torn asunder and put back together from two different bodies. Of course, its mostly because I'm a deviant an like chicks with dicks :V

>>46397972

Absolutely nothing and I think Ian used to do that when he was posting and not in the Trinity mines.

>>46397980

Dark Eras, "Handful of Dust"

>>46397919
plz remove alt pronoun trash. What happened to fighting aginst labels.

>>46397919
I mean, if you are literally a futa/shemale because you're a Galatea and your demiurge was into that, I GUESS hir is acceptable and not jarring, assuming they identify as bigendered and not, say, a woman who happens to have a penis. That said, I personally wouldn't have picked the middle of a sidebar about getting money by becoming circus freaks as my place to soapbox about gender identity.

>>46397996
>>46397969
>Request for info about Hal
>"I'm sorry Dave I can't let you do that..."

Well done.

>>46398050
We have a perfectly good neutral option for pronouns - he/his/him

I don't care if people want to identify as a biqueer genderfulid transwhale, but use he and she like the rest of us

>>46398018
Well, EVERY Frankenstein is going to be made from multiple bodies

>>46398039
Oh, of course the carnies are in the Dust Bowl setting.

>>46398050
That's not a sidebar and it's not a soapbox. No attention was even drawn to it, to the point that most people would think it was a typo. Stop gettin' mad.

>>46398050

>soapbox about gender identity.
>one use in a sidebar specifically referring to someone being a hermaphrodite
>soapbox

Outrage culture in a nutshell people

>>46398102
>Stop gettin' mad.
Where do you think we are?

>>46398102
It was a Ulgan, anon. emphasis on 'torn asunder'. Again, I like dickgirls and I also like ghost/spirits, so it's a fun time.

>>46397972
except the thread will be back to normal after midnigh and everyones names will go back to normal like cinderella

>>46398193
midnight when? Its already tomorrow where hiroshima is

>>46398204
Who knows, probably when chinkmoot stops finding it funny.

>>46398204
>japanese guy bought a website
>it must work on japanese time
are you serious?
4chan is EST, always has been

>>46398261
errrr, racist and sexist much?

>>46398100
or, yknow, they/their/them, like everyone else is already doing

>>46398320
They, meaning many, cannot be A good friend

>>46398320
They/them/their are solid as fuck, I wish peopled would drop the stupid fucking random labels. But uh, really can we not get into this stuff again? Or is it to slow of a day to not talk about OPP's progressiveness?

>>46397913
>I might ask David if he has any thoughts about perfected iron and changelings and fae

Dave, I recall you mentioned that SoS will include new non-classic metal perfected stuff like fire and water.

While you're chatting with other developers, you might want to ask what perfected electricity does to Prometheans and how a stake made of perfected wood would affect a vampire. Let's cover all out crossover bases.

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>>46398383
>what perfected electricity does to Prometheans

>>46398364

Well, it's not like we're getting any big April Fool's book, so there's not much to go on with that route. Maybe if White Wolf did a prank, but Dracula doesn't seem like the joking type when it comes to his setting.

>>46398280
no
you can tell by me not saying anything sexist or racist

>>46398438
Then he exploded.

>>46398438
Looks about right.

>>46397874
>>46397913
>>46398383
Doesn't Iron stop being "Cold" when it gets magicked?

>So-called “cold iron” is even more devastating, particularly to the True Fae. To qualify as “cold iron,” the metal cannot have been shaped or transformed by magic. It must have been forged by hand, not mass-produced, cast, or created by a machine. This iron inflicts aggravated damage to the Gentry and Changelings. Even handling or touching iron causes great pain to the True Fae, and changelings, especially as their Wyrd rises, find it uncomfortable at best. Subtract a changeling’s Wyrd from all dice pools while she touches cold iron.

>>46398320
>I don't care if it makes people uncomfortable, my comfort matters more

>>46398320
>>46398364
They isn't solid, because people STILL treat it as wrong. People treat style guides as if they're the tablets of Moses.

>>46398576
>I don't care if it makes people uncomfortable, my comfort matters more

If you make yourself a target, people are going to target you.

Life isn't fair, deal with it or don't, either ay i'm not refering to you as xer

>>46398576
Aspel, they is solid, Ee both know someone that uses they as their preferred thing. Also the fuck is a style guide?

>>46398280
errrr, dumbass much?

>>46398576
>Doesn't Iron stop being "Cold" when it gets magicked?

DavidH eliminated the cold vs. "regular" iron distinctions in Changeling 2e.

>>46398576

Perfected iron could naturally occur and be shaped by hand just like "cold iron."

>>46398703
so iron is going to kick changeling asses?

>>46398958

Probably.

The discussions now largely concern what constitutes "iron" in 2e since steel is just varying degrees of pure iron. If steel is a bane to changelings, they are screwed.

>>46398958
>My fairest leans against the railing, winking at the gi
>You take 1 aggravated damage, the rail is made of iron

more likely iron doesn't do anything to changelings

>>46398645
>Also the fuck is a style guide?
I'm a worthless NEET and I know what a style guide is. Haven't you ever had to write a report?
Style guides are the guides for style.

More than that, I'm talking about the stuff that you get taught in school. Teachers teach that singular They is not acceptable. They also teach things like how prepositions aren't something you should end a sentence with. A lot of things like that are incredibly descriptive and ultimately arbitrary. You know where that preposition thing got started? Some guy just felt that way, so decided it was a rule, convinced other people it was a rule. It's not. It's completely grammatically correct.

I mean, don't get me wrong, *I* agree. I don't mind non-standard pronouns--for fucks sake make up whatever word you want, that's how language works--but you've got people fighting against things like "they". Even though it was in use singularly in Shakespeare's time.

>>46398703
I quoted Changeling 2e. That's from the playtest package.

>>46398779
I thought "Perfected" materials were created with the Perfecting magic.

>>46399020
since changeling seems to be just taking shit from other games it will probably use werewolf's "90% of it is iron" rule or something

>>46399022
>>My fairest leans against the railing, winking at the gi
>>You take 1 aggravated damage, the rail is made of iron
I 110% hope this happens.

>>46399022
Corn flakes are now poisonous to changelings.

>>46399023
Eh, so many terms are thrown around on the internet i'm never sure if it's grounded in something from school or some rando. Anyway it's probably because I'm not the best with English, fucking learning disability fucking up early development.

>>46397971
You know, I'm as progressive as they come. Not a matter of seeing the light, let's just say my brain only works in a way that doesn't give a shit who/what you fuck, as long as it makes you less of an asshole to be around that person publicly and officially.

But the whole PC thing has gotten out of hand, not because of the messages it promotes (which I don't mind and/or agree with) but because they've become so obvious, in your face.

Like, pronouns. What kind of lazy, bullshit writer shit is that? Write an interesting story that actually engages those who might hold different views on sexual equality. Make it realistic, make the story kick their nuts (or clits) in such a way that they question their bullshit, backwards mindset.

It's like, just because I'm a Communist, I make the entire book refer to the Seers/Invictus/etc. as bourgeois exploiters, and make the protagonists proletarian warriors against the establishment by default. The point is to promote critical thinking through subtle creative manipulation (the good kind), not repost shit from the internet on books.

"Prince LaCroix, of the Camarilla Ventrue, is an enemy to the undead proletariat and refuses, against Nines Rodriguez' constant suggestion, to check his privilege". Real fucking artistic...

>>46399022

David has actually released much of the draft for Changeling 2e, including the sections concerning iron.

The material will likely be revised, but iron currently ignores all changeling, fae, Hedge, contract and similar armor, defenses and protections, and some iron causes aggravated damage to both changelings and fae (with no distinction between them).

When is mage 2e coming out

>>46399117
Also, don't fucking change the Sons of Ether to Society or the Daughters of Cacophony to Children, make them suffer from their sexism in a plausible way.

>>46399048
>since changeling seems to be just taking shit from other games it will probably use werewolf's "90% of it is iron" rule or something

Which isn't helpful because iron is common in weapons and armor, unlike a precious metal like silver, and it would effectively render all steel as "iron" with respect changelings. Steel is just iron that has less impurities.

>>46399110
>Corn flakes are now poisonous to changelings.

Would you eat Hedge Flakes?

>>46399163
Never. The Lie has triumphed and the Exarchs reign supreme over all. No more Awakenings for anyone, ever.

>>46399220
>Steel is just iron that has less impurities.
That's... Not true.
Steel is an iron-alloy, which means it specifically has other elements mixed in.

Unfortunately, it's still 97% iron.

>>46399163
>When is mage 2e coming out

Soon (tm).

If's finishing layout, and then needs to receive final approval from Paradox. It will hopefully be out within a month or so.

So I take it most Metaflesh Kith changelings won't be made of iron. A Metalflesh Fairest, for example, is presumably a delicate filigree of gold, silver and platinum in the shape of a human.

>>46399163

it's already out!

>>46398576

>People treat style guides as if they're the tablets of Moses.

If you want to keep your job, you fucking better. Push for change when it's time for a new edition, but until then you work with what you work with.

>>46399266
>Unfortunately, it's still 97% iron.

Exactly. Many "iron" objects actually have less iron than steel.

DavidH wants to define iron for Changeling as objects people recognize or accept as iron, rather than steel or other metals.

This would be exceedingly unhelpful as many people do indeed view steel as iron, and its the reason why in many historical and contemporary fiction involving the fae, they often are susceptible to steel (e.g., The Dresden Files).

>>46399112
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46ehrFk-gLk
Things like this get made because people are against singular they.

>>46399117
>I'm as progressive as they come
>Until it comes to actual inclusiveness
No you're not.
Your entire post is a strawman, too. The incident you're railing about is literally just a casual pronoun use. The closest to "in your face" was a sidebar saying "hey, this is a thing, these people actually exist in real life".

>>46399165
Like... changing the name? That's pretty plausible. Hell, I'm like 90% sure there are real life examples of such things.

>>46399266
>>46399350
I literally quoted the section earlier. If you want to see it again, here, here's the full context
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2K8R3qXyDyoUTRSemVyb3k1QTA/view

>>46399341
Magic refuses to change "he or she" and "his or her" to "they" and "their" because of their style guide. It makes certain cards bloated and wordy, and they refuse to change it because they believe "They" isn't grammatically correct.

>>46399023
>I'm a worthless NEET
You're half right and half cultural appropriator

>>46399511

Aspel, go away.

We were having so many nice April Fool's Day discussions before you arrived.

>>46399570
>Implying the Japanese didn't appropriate that from the US.

>>46399577
Aspel is the racist one who claims to be a NEET while posting shit like this >>46399511
and >>46399577

>>46399612
They didn't, they appropriated it from the British.

>>46399635
You can't appropriate anything from the British, anon, they're white. Don't you know white people have no culture?

>>46399620
Aspel is the extreme left faggot that isn't loved by his parents.

All the eras should have been replaced by mage scenarios, they should have called it Mage Eras

>>46399511

>Magic refuses to change "he or she" and "his or her" to "they" and "their" because of their style guide. It makes certain cards bloated and wordy, and they refuse to change it because they believe "They" isn't grammatically correct.

And, if you work on a Magic card, you obey that to the letter. Does that make how Wizards does it right and correct? No, of course not. But you do it all the same, because sticking to the style guide is how you stay professional and with a job. It's not right and fair, but one person bucking the trend is going to be easily swatted away.

No one gets to be 100% ideologically pure in a society where money's on the line. Follow what you have to, but look for the right opportunities to push. That or have a damn good army. That's the only way anything's ever changed.

>>46399867
I feel like you're missing the point.

Either way, what the fuck is wrong with these threads that a single throwaway pronoun has everyone flipping out.

>>46400090
Obviously because progressive leftism is cancer an we don't want it in our pure game ;3

>>46400090
We're a reactionary lot here on /wodg/

Get in line or gtfo

>>46400189
If you don't like me reacting to your reactions you can suck my dick.

>>46400220
Who would wanna suck a bent dick like yours? It's probably covered in smegma. Oh wait, Aspel loves smegma an all that gross sex stuff.

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>The Fateful Message

Hunters: the cucks of the chronicles of darkness

>>46399023
You mean the playtest document that is in no way the final text or reflective of decisions that could yet be made between the developers? Sure, Aspel, cling to that.

>>46400410
I don't understand, what do you mean by this other than that you're a gigantic faggot?

... what the fuck is up with this new formatting and how the hell do I turn it off?

Also, proxy event went down for my LARP. 4 PCs died, 1 near death, one died but sold his soul to the demon under Mount Royal to live. Overall a productive LARP writeup.

>>46400669
Well Willard, it's obviously permanent, and in no way related to the date.

>>46400669
April fools, Anon, it'll hopefully go away once Chinkmoot stops laughing.

>>46400669
>... what the fuck is up with this new formatting

Hiroshima Nagasaki is a dick

>and how the hell do I turn it off?

Ask /g/, it worked for me

>>46400669
I must say though, Willard Wise sounds like an excellent name for a Mage who doesn't take everything too seriously.

>>46400489
No one is clinging to anything.

>>46400489
Hell, after the document was released the dev mentioned that the iron rules had changed to be iron in general. Changelings are fucked.

>>46400694
I don't pay attention to silly things like April Fool's Days. Really, I don't, it's just another day for me. Plus this forum format looks like another forum I'm on, which I kinda hate the software for.

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>>46401044
>I don't pay attention to silly things like April Fool's Days

>>46401044
No one cares, anon, you're cool we get it. but it's April fools an thats the answer. Just wait a few hours an the format will change back. Maybe.

>>46401087

To be fair, the magic of April Fools seems to be in short supply this year. On the other hand, that other poster probably eats shredded wheat without sugar so forget them.

Since it's practically WoD anyway, should we discuss Katanas & Trenchcoats here?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ryanmacklin/katanas-and-trenchcoats-retromodern-roleplaying

The previous releases were pretty cool, but I'm not sure I want to back it if it's just a print compilation of the PDF releases, you know?

>>46401257
>Katanas & Trenchcoats

Is that like Car Lesbians?

>>46400996

Changelings are made to suffer, so no wonder.

>>46401257

Apparently it's not a reprint but a full core re-working, so there's that at least. I dunno if it's really CofD/WoD General material, though.

>>46401271
It's a parody of 90s white wolf by the guy that did the Convention books. Is breddy gud.

>>46401257
It's not just a reprint. Read the KS faggot. It's the stupid ten-page joke game expanded into a full book, and now it's playable and more like a parody.

>>46401337

Most of the people working on K&T either contributed to WoD and CofD in the past, or are still doing so.

>>46401396

Oh, I'm aware. I own it, I've played it and it was a blast, but I just don't know if many of the jokes hit for the general audience of the thread is all.

>>46399022
So far normal iron weapon bypasses all fey magical protection while Cold Iron does that along with. Aggravated damage.

>>46399163
Shh if Mage 2E comes out then Dave ascend. Then we lose Mage forever, better for to be a lie then to never exist at all.

>>46401603
Mage existed before Dave and will exist after him.

The gameline does not live or die on the whim of your waifu

>>46395099
AmyV was the disgusting tranny right?

>>46401686
Tell that to Beast

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>>46401762
Trans - yes

Disgusting - pic related

>>46401762
That's me. They don't like using the word blacklist but Rich will never hire me again. I'm not blacklisted anywhere else. See also: The Shadowrun book coming out next month that I wrote for and the three or four indie kickstarters I'm a stretch goal for.

>>46401809
Do you ever miss your penis?

>>46401806
What does homosexuality have to do with her being a tranny? Was she a lesbian?

>>46399511
Oh, gee, thanks for judging my progressiveness. Try jailed anarcho-communist who does not understand why fucking tumblr should be the one to get a sidebar (in recognition of the great American "Left")...

By the way, and at this point I think I crossed the line, if I were to vote (big if), it wouldn't be for Clinton. :O

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>>46401857
I dunno, all my tranny pics are webms, that was all I could find on short notice

>>46401857
She's a man that got her dick chopped off, she wrote some fiction that's not very good, and followed up with an alternate setting better than anything in Dark Eras.

Therefore, we hate her. It's not complicated.

>>46401809
What KS are you maybie working on?

>>46401902
I don't care, I'm just saying tranny doesn't = gay, ya dumb ass.

>>46401902
What fiction was that?

>>46401905
If I could tell you I would. It's not the one you think it is.

>>46401834
I'm not getting SRS. Have you seen what they actually do? I'm not putting down a five-digit number for that.

>>46401762
Spoilers: She's not the only tranny. They've infested your beloved WoD.

>>46401883
"Tumblr" didn't get a sidebar. What do you feel IS 'worthy' of getting a sidebar?

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>>46402009
>I'm not getting SRS

grim

>>46401997
The werewolf thing and the vampire Christmas special.

>>46402023
There's Russel Bailey, I know, but who else?

>>46401883
>if I were to vote (big if), it wouldn't be for Clinton.
Good. Clinton's a shit candidate.
#FeelTheBern

>>46402059
Eh, I wasn't that impressed with either of those honestly.

>>46402118
That's what I'm saying. They were shit. Bible Demon was the only good thing she wrote, and even that's just mediocre.

>>46402047
That was heartwarming until "we're long distance".
Am I just a cynic? I mean, long distance relationships are becoming more and more viable and tangible, but... that just screams "teenagers".

>And then I notice the avatar
Nope, it is a teenager.

>>46402023
Feminist Kurdish fighters against ISIS?
How blame culture has driven victims of austerity in Europe to self-hate and suicide in the tens of thousands?
How global trade agreements are forever changing everything for the dystopian worse?

You know... The real, bloody wars of progress vs. elitism.

All I meant to say was that some of these feel like blatant attempts to appear progressive. Between the obscenely stereotypical racist clans and nWoD's gentle, neutral approach to everything, there was a sweet spot for WW/OPP that caused readers to think.

Pronouns or Beast did not do that, they were too in your face and irrelevant everywhere but America. You do know Europe, the Middle East, Asia, and pretty much anywhere else, doesn't give a shit about US sensitivities (simply because they do not appeal to their real-life problems).

To hear Americans debate abortion feels for an outsider, like having to specifically go out of your way to explain you have nothing to do with flat-earthers... I get it why you have to, because Trump and reasons, but can you catch up already? The world's on fire...

>>46402060
If Bernie doesn't win, we're fucked. No, seriously. We're fucked.

>>46402206
Shout-out to Werewolf talking about how men can get knocked up and there are conditions in the core book for each trimester.

>>46401883

>Try jailed anarcho-communist

Bahahahhahahahahahahhhahaha

>>46402273
As a woman, that doesn't really... errr... I dunno. Not core to my political views, but for some weird reason strangely sexy...

>>46402239
Bernie and all the other candidates are shit, If you think Bernie isn't just as much of a piece of shit as Clinton, Trump, or Cruz then you are as delusional as the Trannies at WW

>>46402239

The wall is coming, Velasquez.

>>46402339
Hey to their credit, this *is* 4chan

>>46399790
And who calls himself a NEET and can't get a job because he has nightmares of working in a sub shop.

>>46402373
Would that be Diego or Cain? Since this is Volumes of Darkness I wanna say Cain...

>>46402347
Nah I get that, I'm deviant enough to get it as a sex thing, just... I dunno, feels odd having mechanics for pregnancy. Like the males giving birth thing, that can be m-preg or ftm biznez and it makes sense to be in wolf since one of the themes of woof is body horror an weird changes. Besides, werewolves -are- part spirit an spirits don't really into genders an pregnancy that well....

>>46402391
>implying this isn't just the ramblings of a single Malkavian posting all posts on this thread

>>46402382

Oh absolutely, it's just that an anarcho-communist coming in and trying to lecture anyone about politics, especially a milquetoast identity politic liberal like Aspel is like watching a clown do an Arthur Miller monologue.

>>46402422
Definitely agree about the spirit part. I love how Kabbalists perceive God as having both a male and female aspect.

>>46402422
The mechanics for pregnancy are just a condition for each trimester that very loosely represent what being pregnant does to you, physically and mentally.

>>46402484
Mmmmmm... Milky toast.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msQPHxTUgzI

>>46402206
Do you even read the books? You're getting worked up because a hermaphrodite character--like, a literal hermaphrodite--was described as 'hir'. At most you're complaining that Mortal Remains said "these people exist, if that makes you uncomfortable but monsters and murder don't that's something to think about".

Why would any of what you said even be relevant to the game? Nevermind that a lot of that already is in the books. Iraq is one of the Werewolf settings. It doesn't talk about ISIS (probably for fear of becoming dated), but it does talk about the war and it's effects on Basrah.

You do also realize that just because problems don't affect you doesn't mean they aren't problems, right? There are transgender people in Europe and Asia and even the Middle East. In fact, quite a few countries have cultural traditions with transgender people, that were then uprooted and American and British colonialism came along. But beyond that... we're talking about something incredibly inconsequential that you're treating as a hill to die on. Why? Why does it bother you so much that a passage used "hir"?

>>46402348
He's got a 40 year track record of being the most progressive person in Washington. The notion that he's "just as much a piece of shit" as any of the others is delusional.

Half this thread was taken up because someone screenshotted a single sentence about a futa promethean. What will derail the next thread?

Wait, so why was AmyV fired in the first place, I've been out of the loop for a while

>>46402615
not OP, but since we're talking about it

>*clears throat*

ahem

>*pulls out megaphone*

IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME.

IT SIMPLY DIVERTS ATTENTION FROM CLASS WARFARE.

THEY'RE GONNA FUCK UP THE MIDDLE AND WORKING CLASSES.

I AM SEXUALLY AROUSED BY THINGS EVEN YOU COULDN'T POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND, BUT I REALIZE THAT NO MATTER WHAT IDENTITY I CHOOSE, THE RICH WILL ALWAYS SEE ME AS A PROLE.

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO ADVANCE AN EGALITARIAN AGENDA, HELP OUT AND BECOME ACTIVE IN THE LABOR MOVEMENT AS WELL. THEN WE CAN PERCEIVE EACH OTHER AS ALLIES FOR PROGRESS.

ahem

>turns off megaphone

Can we move on now?

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>>46402796
She told Rich the Exalted v3 art was bad.

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>when you pick Fairest as your Kith

>>46402805
People can care about more than one thing. You act like being a minority isn't part of class conflict to begin with.

>>46402615
His track record is impeccable indeed. I like the guy, and truly hope he doesn't turn into fucking Alex Tsipras.

>>46402796
She was blamed for the Beast and Ex3 leaks and she criticized the Ex3 art in a Kickstarter message to Rich

>>46402777
the next progressive bit of stuff someone notices in a book.

>>46402882
You mean Flowering.

>>46402777

Let's find out! Together!

New Thread: >>46402939

I sure hope I didn't mess this up!

>>46402934
I'm disappointed no one's been talking about Geist Dark Eras stuff. I need to read it, but I've been busy not doing that.

>>46402910
Really hope they do. Haven't seen many of them in the marches I attended for living wages though.

>>46402965
Dood lets be honest, I think it's cool an all, but the Geist Dark era is in fucking New Zealand. And it's geist.

>>46403024
There were three of them. And I think a fourth in the companion.

>>46403024

Dude, what? There's 3 Geist Dark Eras, one set in the fucking Three Kingdoms.

>>46403173
I thought you meant just the 'main' one. Pro tip, the three-kingdoms one is kinda meh, a bit to historical an not enough cool setting.