/hwg/ - Historical Wargames General

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>Wargaming Compendium
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf
>Saga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Black Powder
http://www.mediafire.com/download/o5x6blwoczojmfr/Black+Powder.pdf
>Bolt Action
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>Hail Caesar
https://mega.nz/#F!s9xTTDpQ!CasEjRETeqZsJ5LOzYrJdg
>Warhammer Ancient battles 2.0
http://www.mediafire.com/download/uttov32riixm9b0/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+2E.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ta7aj1erh7sap1t/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+-+Armies+of+Antiquity+v2.pdf
>Warmaster Ancients
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cifld8bl3uy2i5g/Warmaster+Ancients.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3emyvka11bnna1b/Warmaster+Ancient+Armies.pdf
>Advanced Squad Leader
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>Impetus
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Ronin
http://www.mediafire.com/download/m8xke04pc3hne2k/Ronin.pdf
>Battleground WWII
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>By Fire And Sword
https://mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Modelling & painting guides
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Phoenix Command RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Next War (GMT)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/eupungrg93xgb/Next_War

Desired scans :
Battlegroup supplements
Black Powder supplements
Rank and File supplements
Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements
Hail Caesar! Late Antiquity to Early Medieval Army List
Force on Force supplements
Hind Commander
At Close Quarters
War and Conquest
Germany Strikes!

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Anyone have scans? Keen for a lite ww2 tactics.

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28th March in military history:

193 – Roman Emperor Pertinax is assassinated by Praetorian Guards, who then sell the throne in an auction to Didius Julianus.
1794 – Allies under Prince Josias of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld defeat French forces at Le Cateau.
1809 – Peninsular War: France defeats Spain in the Battle of Medellín.
1814 – War of 1812: The Royal Navy of the United Kingdom defeats the United States Navy in the Battle of Valparaiso, Chile.
1854 – Crimean War: France and Britain declare war on Russia.
1860 – First Taranaki War: The Battle of Waireka begins.
1862 – American Civil War: Battle of Glorieta Pass – in New Mexico, Union forces stop the Confederate invasion of New Mexico territory. The battle began on March 26.
1871 – The Paris Commune is formally established.
1883 – Tonkin Campaign: French victory in the Battle of Gia Cuc.
1939 – Spanish Civil War: Generalissimo Francisco Franco conquers Madrid after a three-year siege.
1941 – World War II: Battle of Cape Matapan – in the Mediterranean Sea, British Admiral Andrew Browne Cunningham leads the Royal Navy in the destruction of three major Italian heavy cruisers and two destroyers.
1942 – World War II: St Nazaire Raid: In occupied France, British naval forces successfully raid the German-occupied port of Saint-Nazaire.
1951 – First Indochina War: In the Battle of Mạo Khê, French Union forces, led by World War II hero Jean de Lattre de Tassigny, inflict a defeat on Việt Minh forces commanded by General Võ Nguyên Giáp.

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also So i get a raging hard on for janissary hats and muskets and i wanna put together an ottoman army from the pike and shotte era, but i've heard a lot of people hate that rule set. Can By fire and sword be played at the 28mm scale or is it too large?

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It is 74 years since the St Nazaire Raid, formally 'Operation Chariot'. This was a successful British amphibious attack on the heavily defended Normandie dry dock at St Nazaire in German-occupied France. The operation was undertaken by the Royal Navy and British Commandos under the auspices of Combined Operations Headquarters.

Britain’s high command was gripped by fear of Germany’s huge battleship, the Tirpitz, a massive ship, a sixth of a mile long. Its sister ship, the Bismarck, had been sunk in May 1941, but the Tirpitz still roamed large. The only dry dock on the French coast capable of accommodating such a ship was to be found at the port Saint-Nazaire, a town of some 50,000 people. If the Normandie dock, as it was called, the largest dry dock in the world at the time, could be put out of action, then the Tirpitz’s activity in the Atlantic would be severely constrained.

Thus, in late February 1942, the British command settled on their objective – to attack Saint-Nazaire. They had only four weeks to devise and execute the plan before the spring tides turned against them. The problem, however, was that the port was heavily defended by the occupying Germans. The idea of an aerial bombardment was immediately rejected because of potential French civilian casualties. The plan they came up with instead was to ram an ‘expendable vessel’ packed with timed explosives into the Normandie dock and destroy it. The vessel they found was old American destroyer, the HMS Campbeltown, built in 1919 and now obsolete.

the convoy set off from Falmouth in Cornwall. All but the most senior knew nothing about the mission until they had boarded and were on their way to France. Many suffered from seasickness; others prayed. Two Scots changed out of their trousers and into kilts – if they were to die, they said, they wanted to be properly dressed. Despite knowing they were embarking on a suicidal mission, the overall atmosphere was ‘calm, confident and cheerful’.

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>>46306222
The attack would involve 621 men, a mixture of Royal Navy and Commandos. They were to be split into three teams – assault, demotion and protection. In preparation for her final journey, HMS Campbeltown was modified to make her lighter and, by removing two of her four funnels, to make her look more like a German destroyer.

It was the diversionary air raid that made the Germans realise that something was happening and as the Campbeltown steamed towards the dock gates with 2000 metres to go, she was caught in the light of search lights and hit with a great deal of fire. But she was only one mile from the dock gates when this happened. Campbeltown had little with which to defend herself as most of her weaponry – and other equipment – had been taken off to make her as light and as fast as was possible. All her captain had on his side was the fact that the Campbeltown was quick.

At 01.34 on March 28th, Campbeltown rammed into the gates of the dry dock. The impact, at 20 knots, crumpled about 12 meters of the ship’s hull. The Commandos carried by Campbeltown disembarked and set about their work. However, the Commandos carried by the wooden motor launches had suffered very badly as they sailed with Campbeltown. Very little accurate fire was needed to damage these boats and very few Commandos from these boats actually managed to land. In total about 100 Commandos did get to their target. Divided into demolition teams and protection teams they faced a potential German force of 5,000 that was based in and around St. Nazaire.

Gunfights took place all around the docks and in the streets of the town. As the convoy prepared to retreat, having completed its objectives, a number of men were still unaccounted for. Many had been killed, others were forced into surrendering; five of them managed to slip into the French countryside and made their way all the way down to neutral Spain, and from there, back to England. Most of the smaller ships had been destroyed.

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>>46306228
During their fight with the Germans, the Commandos had fully expected to hear the Campbeltown explode. Clearly the Germans thought that the ship was safe as German soldiers were on board having their photos taken as a keepsake. The captured Commandos must have thought that their raid had been in vain as the ship had still not exploded after their surrender. The Campbeltown did explode at 10.35 – four and a quarter tons of amatol ignited. The explosion killed about 250 German soldiers, including an official party of 40 senior German officers and civilians. The damage done to the dock was such that it could not be used until 1947.

The raid had been a success, but at a cost. Of the 622 men of the Royal Navy and Commandos who took part in the raid, only 228 men returned to England. 169 men were killed (105 RN and 64 Commandos) and another 215 became prisoners of war (106 RN and 109 Commandos). 89 decorations were awarded, including 5 VCs (two of them posthumous). German casualties were over 360 dead. After the war St Nazaire was one of 38 battle honours awarded to the Commandos; the operation has since become known as The Greatest Raid of All within military circles.

The Tirpitz never entered the Atlantic. She remained in Norwegian fjords to threaten Allied shipping until she was destroyed by the RAF on 12 November 1944.

This has always been a popular subject for wargamers; in fact Featherstone covers it in his "Complete Wargaming", which is worth a look if you feel inspired. There have been several hex&chit versions of it, and models of the Campbeltown have always been easy to find.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/hapnu2f7o9ny3i1/Featherstone's+Complete+Wargaming.pdf

http://www.mediafire.com/download/ysraple0fax4jhr/Osprey+-+CAM+092+-+St+Nazaire+1942.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/knb6x7ri7t8boab/Osprey+-+BOR+018+-+British+Commandos+1940-46.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/rvo2g28oviwdjj2/Osprey+-+ELI+064+-+Army+Commandos+1940-45.pdf

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World War II US Army Combat Equipments (Osprey Elite 210)

During World War II American soldiers, or 'GIs' as they were more commonly known, headed into Europe laden with the provisions needed to survive and function in hostile territory. As they marched towards Berlin it was the equipment that they had strapped to their body that they relied on most of all. In this highly illustrated book Special Forces veteran Gordon Rottman offers a truly comprehensive treatment of US World War II gear, covering not only basic belts, pouches and packs, but also mess gear, first aid gear, tools, bivouac/camping gear - essentially everything that a GI had to keep him alive and operational on the battlefield. Illustrated with wartime photos, new photos of kit from private collections and color plates showing both laid-out kit and half-figures of soldiers wearing it, this is set to become the primary equipment information resource for anyone interested in the kit and webbing used by US forces from D-Day to Berlin.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/21o333pdn4u77f2/Osprey+-+ELI+210+-+World+War+II+US+Army+Combat+Equipments.pdf

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Reposting from last thread.

Questions for the knowledgeable anons out there about "Saxon" maille (maille shirts that are toothed at the bottom, see pic attached)
1) Why was this done? To save weight and resources without sacrificing too much protection? Did it work?
2) How common was it, and did anyone else other than saxons use it?

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>>46306350
You might also like to try in the Song of Swords thread and/or the Arms and Armour one.

>>46306350
>1) Why was this done?

Looks fancy.

>>46306350
>Looks fancy.
>>46306943
I'm not expert, but I get the feeling it was a nice stylistic touch for chieftains. Apparently not much of the stuff has survived.

>google 'Saxon toothed maille'
>leads to an article on Dental treatment in Anglo-Saxon England
Fascinating stuff! Apparently, Anglo-Saxon medical literature suggests that care of the teeth was largely limited to non-invasive treatment. Cures, mainly for toothache, were based on herbal remedies, charms and amulets. Herbal potions also treated oral problems as diverse as caries and facial deformities. However, surgical intervention for cleft lip is mentioned in the later documents. Skeletal evidence confirms that cleft lip and palate was definitely known to the Anglo-Saxons. A possible dentist's grave has been identified.

Does anyone have Osprey's Black Ops? I'm itching for some tacticool action and I hear good things about it.

Does anyone have a link for A Fistful of TOWs ww2?

The download link for the introductory rules on their site isn't working for me, and I don't like buying stuff blindly.

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>>46307154
>The download link for the introductory rules on their site isn't working for me
Here you go anon

>>46307177
Thank you, much appreciated.

Now, I need advice on this: go safe with 6mm or go wild with 3mm?

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>>46307337
You might find there's more of a range of minis in 6mm, but I can't say I've looked into it in any depth.

>>46306928
no mud hut shalt withstand the fury of T-55

>>46307337
6mm ranges from somewhat expensive, but exquisitely detailed models from GHQ to dirt cheap, "yep, that's likely a T-72" fare from Grendel and Heroics and Ross.

The must infuriating thing is that Heroics make better T-72 turrets while Grendel has more detailed hulls, but the turrets are way too small.

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I recently tried Tanks the skyrmish game. It was a huge disapointment. Does anyone have a complete pdf of Bolt action tank battles?

>>46308061
You mean Tank War? Up there in our Bolt Action folder senpai.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/a775tc40zbaefii/Bolt+Action+-+Tank+War.pdf

>>46307337
>>46307375
3mm is really fun but either will work. Though if you're using 3mm you'll be buying everything from picoarmor because anything else would be retarded

>>46308061
you had a bad time because you're using a wooden table and it doesnt look like land. Thank me later

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>>46306350
This is called a "Van dyked" maille shirt (because it looks a lot like the style of beard).

The argument has always been that it a form of decoration, especially as the teeth tend to actually be very small and generally occur on shorter styles of byrnie anyway.

This is not so much a Saxon style as cross-cultural style in Western Europe

It was also really, really rare. There are only a handful of images that depict this style and it overwhelming majority of maille shirts are shown without any sort of toothed hem.

It does however look distinctive and has thus modellers and re-enactors give it preference that is vastly disproportional to the actual historical evidence.

The images is from an early 11th german manuscript, which shows a much squarer style than most people would imagine. The main example used as evidence for the style is a figure on folio 18v of Cotton Cleopatra C VIII who is wearing a very small shirt with tiny teeth at the sleeves and hem- unfortunately the only picture I have of it is for ants.

I swear that I have seen another example in the artwork that looks a little more like the classic image, but I can't find it and we are talking possibly one hazily remembered picture among literally thousands of depictions of maille shirts.

Whether they existed at all is debated, and there are far too few examples to say anything at all about patterns of use beyond extreme rarity.

>>46308061
Marian?

1:72 discussion con't, as I was away to watch Kung-Fu Panda 3 (awesome movie, worth a watch).

Italeri tanks, at least here, doesn't cost 10 pounds (the easy assembly kits at least). I live in Hungary, and at worst a box of them is 2500 huf (which is around 6 pounds).

1:72 is great for skirmishes and platoon level shit. We play Bolt Action in it, and played Operation World War 2 too (tho it was one level higher). Also great for Napoleonics (cheap, thus you can make armies almost as easily as in 10mm), Ancients (great variety), medievals (detto) and so forth. Really, it's a great scale, whatever folks say. There are a good number of metal manufacturers too, but the plastic figures aren't hard to convert either.

I want to buy myself a box of Perry's Agincourt English just because I love those models, however I would like to play with them as well - which rulesets would you suggest for the Hundred Years War gaming in 28mm?

>>46308887
Lords&Servants.

>>46308488
Thank you for the information.

And now I find it annoying that Gripping Beast has it on 40% of their plastic saxons... Oh well, I guess I can shave it off and cover with green stuff on at least a few of those 40%

>>46308947
You're welcome.

It's just one of those things that has been accepted into the popular wisdom about Anglo-Saxon equipment.

The idea seems to have developed that it is an early medieval style, and there are vague references to it being derived from Migration/Vendel period practices but I've yet to see any solid evidence of that. If anyone does have information I'd love to see it though. The art I've mentioned is mostly from the late 10th/early 11th century which is considerably after the usual date range given.

The Gripping Beast Saxons Thegns are pretty good overall, but the equipment is generally more 8&9th century compared to the 9&10th century styles of the Hird set. It makes sense that the sculptor choose vandyked shirts to convey that early medieval aesthetic, it's just lacking in any actual basis for being an accurate representation of Anglo-Saxon wargear.

>>46308887
I've got a medieval skirmish game coming out pretty soon. It's ideally suited for HYW stuff, and you'd be able to field two decent sized forces just with the Perry box.

I'm thinking of getting into ACW. I've played a bit in 15mm, but not sure if I want to do 15mm or 6mm. Already planning on doing some 6mm Blucher, so considering Longstreet.

Any suggestions, /hwg/

>>46310345
Ooh, that sounds interesting, do you have any more info, so I know what to look for?

>>46310440
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jRFiqDUsZ9yyCDRRhQAgjwULe4ax-nhcmyhqFNUjlZc/edit?usp=sharing

Here's the beta version. It doesn't have the campaign systems implemented yet, 'cause I'm still testing that stuff out, but narrative campaigns are certainly on the charts.

>>46306228
> five of them managed to slip into the French countryside and made their way all the way down to neutral Spain, and from there, back to England.

Man I bet that was a story and a half.

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>>46308061
What was good/bad about it?

Also don't be expecting anything good of the Bolt Action supplement, it literally adds fuck all to the system and this otherwise free game: http://www.jimwallman.org.uk/wargame/tankduel.htm

>>46311378
I guess he meant the Battlefront Games named Tanks! which is like a WW2 X-Wing.

>>46311438
I was thinking he meant this: http://tanks.gf9games.com/ which isn't Battlefront.

Talk about a generic name eh.

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>>46306246

I don't suppose you have a book like this, but for WWI?

>>46311993
Check the WW1 link at the start of the thread, under the Ospreys section.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/b35x147vmc6sg/World_War_One#8glua2xzlcxib

what are the best documentaries/books regarding ww2, especially german army?

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>>46307836
Scenario: http://donoghmccarthy.blogspot.com/2010/09/wounded-beast-scenario.html

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>>46312402
The Forgotten Soldier by Guy Sajer

>>46312402

The World at War

>>46312962
>The World at War
does it involve major discussions over military strategy?

>>46313171

M8, watching The World At War isn't up for debate here, everyone should do it at least once in his life.

This may seem like a stupid question, but I can't seem to find the answer anywhere.

When you purchase flags from somewhere like Flags of War, are you buying the physical flags and having them sent to you, or are you buying a PDF to print the flags off yourself?

>>46313398
I think it depends on the company. I think Flags of War ship you physical flags but I wouldn't take my word for it.

What's your favourite system for the Medieval era, /hwg/?

>>46313753
lion rampant

>>46313753
I don't know about favourite, but Warhammer Ancient Battles is actually an OK system, pretty good if like me you migrated to historicals from GW games.

>>46313753
lion rampant

>>46313753
I like Saga

Does anyone know where I could get a copy of Avalon Hill's Midway game?

It's been recommended as amenable to conversion for solo-play.

>>46313753
Lion rampant

>>46313809
>>46313842
>>46313922
I'm not a regular here but I heard there was some bitching about it, are you guys being true right now?

>>46312227

Oh, cool. Thanks, anon.

>>46313753
Impetus
It's good for the actual battle sized stuff. Never managed to find a small scale system that's actually what I want/good though.

>>46313969
Lion Rampant is a mediocre meme game.

>>46313969
I'll come clean.
I've never played it.

>>46314303
Thank you

>>46314137
What scale would you recommend for Impetus?

>>46313969
lion is a good game, really quick but fun nontheless
it demonstrates you how you don't have to use an overcomplicated ruleset to get a nice medieval feeling

Is ASL worth it?

>>46312962
>>46313264
I agree it's a superb series, you can find it on youtube

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>>46314544
15mm is pretty much ideal.

>>46314840
I wish there were more complex medieval sets, every skirmish game feels like a warhammer clone to me rather than something that actually tries to be more detailed.

>>46307092
I have it and play it with friends a lot.

Quite like it. It's not the most in depth of wargames but if you want to play a quick game it's fantastic.

>>46315572
How many miniatures does it require? Vehicles?

>>46313753
I actually really enjoy Deus Vult. That and lion rampant plays a fun game if you can stand random activation. Hail Caesar is also good for a collection on the table game.

>>46312402
This one if great for the east front:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbM4ITG0osM&list=ELlzBS5WrPu4s

One of the best WW2 documentaries I've ever seen. many many parts, so plenty to watch.

WW2 in color is also decent.

As for books: Antony Beevor's Stalingrad is excellent

I'm building up two ww2 forces for Fistful of TOWs, meant to be a scenario/introduction for my friends.

I'd like to build US Tanks against German Panzergrenadiers, does anyone know of any notable event where two similar forces fought against each other I can base this off? I'm a total historynoob, still dipping my toes into the water.

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>>46308061
1/72 tanks strongk

I see those italieri fast build double kits. Some of the best kits imo. Dont even need glue, and can build 2 tanks in 10 minutes!

>>46317555
I wouldn't worry too much about re fighting a specific historical battle. Just build 2 lists that will be fun to fight each other. For me historical wargaming is more about fighting using historical units than re fighting actual battles. As long each side has some tanks, infantry, artillery and light vehicles, should be fine.

If you really want you can look at US orders of battle to see what kind of ratio of tanks to men to artillery they would have had, likewise with panzergrenadier. An order of battle will give you a rough idea you can base your army lists on.

Historical wargaming should be about having fun games with historically flavored units. The actual battle doesn't matter too much. Researching and re fighting a battle is always cool, but its kind of more advanced than just having a casual game.

>>46317555
Bulge or Hurtgen Forrest could work as overall scenario

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Pretty much finished the 15th foot. Need to order some flag and put the finials on, but other than that they are done.

Still unsure whether I will add another base of 6 but for now I'm moving onto the Hessians and Dragoons methinks.

>>46317827
Thanks man, I was reading about Bulge right now, will check on Hurtgen as soon as I got time.

>>46317778
That's more or less what I'm planning, I just felt like throwing out some "real" names (as in "this battalion totally fought this other one") could be fun

>>46317664
That Stalin better be a Russian doll of different leaders

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>>46318147
it is. Goes from Gorbachev down to st Cyril?

My grandpa picked it up in Russia when they went through in the 80s

>>46314979
Definitely, it is the best game of its kind.

>>46314979
>>46321364
Do you happen to know any good detailed AARs?

Who ever added the Crossfire rules to the pasta thank you. I have been looking for it for a while.

>>46313753
The Battlegroup guys made a crusade rules set recently - is that Lion Rampart?

>>46317971
I read a pretty good book about Huertgen back when I was in high school. I think it was this one

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1522950346/ref=pd_aw_fbt_14_img_3/185-0478732-0378352?ie=UTF8&refRID=00BXN35KM637781KDPC0

but it's been so long I can't be certain

>>46322001
Lion Rampant is by Osprey.
I got a chance to play Soldiers of God (written by the guy who wrote battlegroup) a few times now.
I'm not huge fan of medieval wargames, for whatever reason it just never did anything for me but I'm really digging these rules. They're a little card heavy which produces some very odd stuff. In one game I played a card which on a lucky roll killed an enemy commander. In another the Saracen player made my baggage unit panic from across the table and disappear. If you can get past the sort of random nature of the cards its a cool game.
I really like how friendly it was for someone who knows nothing about the era. I built an army in about a month using their lists and have been able to get in some pretty fun games.
I also like Lion Rampant, Hail Caesar and To The Strongest

>>46312402
Baнькa-poтный.

>>46312402
Oh, and Burkhart Müller-Hillebrand.

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Now look what /hwg/ made me do.
>implying no control of purchasing decisions.

These things aside, crikey. Painting these blighters. Question. Prime and paint on sprue, or cut off and deal with mold lines, build then prime?

What do with the 25 British sitting there, waiting?

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>>46322164
From Osprey, but they're just publishers and have nothing to do with any of the design of anything they publish outside of book layout and making shit look fancy rather than the made-in-open-office look that the systems would otherwise have. For some reason I think this is important to point out, probably to do with them taking almost any old idea that someone throws at them.

>>46313753

Medieval wargames are an odd beast. There's a whole load but most are not actually any good, there's no real genre-leader except for the early medieval era things and a bit of the crusades, but fuck all that specialises in the later 1300s/1400s stuff. Most games that cover it jam it in along with a huge swathe of history, which leaves most of them feeling really generic.

For most eras there's a whole bunch of great games that can be pointed at (amongst a fuckload of mediocre guff) and can be said to truly capture a flavour with appropriate detail and good mechanics, in a variety of scales of battle, that are not just adapted generic systems.
I can't think of a single recommendation for high/late Medieval that fits that model.

>>46323460
never paint on sprue, you'll just leave un-primed/painted patches when you remove the bits, and you still have to clean up mould lines and the like.

Always build/clean up and then paint if you give even the slightest damn about the final result.

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How do you insert your magical real into a historical wargame?

>>46323736
>Find historical instances of your magical realm in warfare
>Acquire
>Play

>>46323585
>probably to do with them taking almost any old idea that someone throws at them.
Could you elaborate? I'd like to get into making games and this seems like a way to get into it.

>>46323620
TYVM indeed. I ask as I saw some sprue mounted, semi-painted around here somewhere.

Life was easier with one-piece metal minis. These multipart resin things cause this old fag confusion.

>sadfacegrenadierminiatures.bmp

>>46323921
Smaller forces like Finland still come in one piece metal.

>>46324044
Saw the Italian ones too (also metal). But with 25 soldiers for the money, it made sense to buy something with a bit more bang for your buck.

>>46314840
>nice medieval feeling
Archers standing around scratching their arses while halberdiers are charging them?

>>46322164
Do you have a pdf for Soldiers of God by any chance?

Also, does anyone has a pdf for Deus Vult?

>>46315296
Go play Chainmail, or one of the DB games, man.

>>46323921

You can probably find assembly/painting guides at warlord's website just fyi, they have a whole articles section. Some people paint on sprue but it's generally strongly advised against.

Also, if you have easy access to blutack/poster putty, you can and should use that to stick all the parts for each figure together for a test-fit to be sure that everything fits and plan out your pose, that way you don't end up with awkward poses or gaps in joints or other things that will make your dudes like they were assembled by a 12 year old high on glue fumes

Most /hwg/ plastic kits tend to be only 2-3 parts per fig plus maybe a figure but it looks like those bolt action dudes are more GW-tier with tons of little accessories and so forth, so test-fitting will be more necessary than for, say, warlord's napoleonic or ancients kits which are more straight-forward

>>46325010
>plus maybe a figure

*plus maybe a shield

too tipsy to give good advice desu

>>46325010
>those bolt action dudes are more GW-tier with tons of little accessories and so forth
More like GW 5 years before. Now they are almost snap-fits.

>>46324102
>>46324044
wait nigga wut??

Other nations have actual sprues? I feel so fucking cheated. I could have made italians with amazing hand gestures!

>>46322164
Is Soldiers of God crusades only?

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>>46311993
In our WW1/References folder we have the two volumes of Funcken's Arms and Uniforms of the First World War. It has numerous drawings of combat equipment from all the main armies. However they are in French, but if you don't speak the language it's still easy to learn the essential terms. Like in the Foreign Legion, back in the day. They'd show a recruit a rifle, scream "FUSIL!", smack their face, scream "FUSIL!" again, then they'd give them the rifle. Next they'd pick up a képi, show it to the recruit and scream "KÉPI!", smack their face, scream "KÉPI!" then give then the képi. And so on, for about three months. Everyone learned very quickly.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/15yk97lww5vytl7/Funcken+-+Arms+and+Uniforms+-+The+First+World+War+Part1.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/74ojzhys30x0xc2/Funcken+-+Arms+and+Uniforms+-+The+First+World+War+Part2.pdf

>>46325892
Imagine being stuck in the regiment who get the bicycle cap badge when all your friends in other regiments get cool things like horns and lightning stars and shit.

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>>46326181
Hey man, the Chasseurs Cyclistes got the mad pussy game, all the bitches want the nigger with the wheels

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>>46326214

>>46325191
Do not feel bad. Sticking these Brits together is not going to be a fun job. One down, 24 to go.

Take me back 1/285. All is forgiven.

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>>46326282
i actually fully enjoy that aspect of the modelling

pic related. i could have made this son of a mama

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>Plastic British Infantry update.
We received the first shots of the command frame from Renedra at the weekend for the British Infantry 1877-85 Afghanistan/Sudan. They will still need a little tweaking but just about there and Renedra have again done us proud! The intention is to release them at Salute (16th April), so fingers crossed.

>>46326901
>>46326918
I need them...but for what? I already do Victorian in 1:72.

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>>46326927

Then do it in 28mm too!

>>46318193
awesome

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>>46326927
>These new recruits are rather tall aren't they sir?

>>46326929
>>46326949
These look great but dammit I already do too many genres/periods.

>>46326223
RIDE THE FUCKING BIKE DONT WALK IT AROUND YOU IMBECILE

>>46326901
can you make it so he's shooting his dog?

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>>46327613

>>46327661
It'd be funny. I dont like the english and this makes me laugh

>>46306199
>Desired scans :
>Battlegroup supplements
Brace for impact.

>>46328034
https://mega.nz/#F!qRMknaZT!9kSkwzUeCWPM6ph9o6N8fg

Fall of the Reich should be up soon, here, have Kursk and Overlord till then.

>>46328365
Thanks man

>>46328381
No probs.

Fall of the Reich could take some time as it loads fucking slowly (1-3 Kb/sec).

I'm thinking about buying the new Victrix ancient Iberians, can anyone recommend a good skirmish game?

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>>46326949
Nice figs but 28mm just leaves me dissatisfied since you rarely have any room to really maneuver and start in (visually) charge range. Just ruins the immersion even if rifle ranges etc are nerfed. Too bad since there are some really nice 28mm figs out there.

>>46328922
Skirmish gaming, m8.

>>46328922
its only charge range for full formations. PLay skirmish games

>>46328640
Fucking shite started for the third time and doesn't want to go over 60%.

>>46328672
I wanted to add if anyone knows of a ruleset similar to Saga but for ancients.

>>46329585
Aye, Fall of the Riesh is up, the link is the same as at >>46328365

Have fun gents.

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>>46329276
Not that anon but:
I am so fucking bored of skirmish games.

Yet the guys I have to play with are addicted to 28mm beyond all reason. To the point of playing tank-heavy battles in 28mm rather than going to a more sensible, affordable size.
Halp.

Sorting out both sides myself doesn't work either before someone suggests that. I think I might just be cursed with plebs.

>>46330255
maybe because models look actually nice at 28mm?
never got the grip of playing bolt action in 20mm....

>>46330292
Bubbly heads and hamhands.

Have fun with those while I buy 3-4 armies in 1:72 than you buy in 28mm.

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Since we're discussing medieval skirmish games, I'd like to throw my hat into the ring with Chevauchee.

It's a derivative of the FiveCore system, with a few tweaks and additions to bring medieval warfare to life. I've cherry-picked various things from FiveCore 2e and Five Men at Kursk, plus some of my own ideas and hopefully it all comes together as a cohesive system.

The system's designed for small-scale actions between groups of anywhere between 6-12 figures, with a mix of armaments. Due to my limited knowledge of other periods, I've aimed the game squarely at the Hundred Years War. With a bit of tweaking it should work for any number of conflicts or localities.

The main big abstraction I made was in regard to armour. FiveCore's principle damage dealing mechanics aren't particularly modifiable outside of re-rolls, so I figured it was best to boil the range of protective gear available down to two types; light or heavy.

I'm also looking at finding an elegant way to up the number of combatants per side without things getting too clunky. Might be digging into No End in Sight for some inspiration.

Here's the mediafire link for the PDF: https://www.mediafire.com/?gmvy3h9f8puo7l5

>>46330333
>while I buy 3-4 armies

Thanks but no thanks. I'm a slow painter anyway.

>>46330292
>maybe because models look actually nice at 28mm?

Hah, no. Models can look nice in pretty much any size. Except 2mm.

And sometimes even 2mm.

>>46330292
>maybe because models look actually nice at 28mm?
woah now let's not get into a scale war.
because 28mm won't win

>>46317834
What did you use for the earth on the bases?

Building forces for a small battle in Fistful of TOWs, does anyone have any advice on what pointsize I should be aiming for?

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Just had a few months break from wargaming and /hwg/ but I feel like getting back into the game and continuing with my 15mm Barbarossa project now.

German infantry and heavy weapons should be all done now, time to order the first vehicle.

Also posting the last figures I had painted but not posted yet.

>>46331115
Really depends on 'when' you are building it for.
A small, highly skilled ultramodern force can be 10k points with barely 3 full units. The same for a WW2 force can be less than half that.

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>>46331193

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>>46331208

>>46308061
>Panther and Panzer IV vs 2 T34/85's

Well here's your problem

>>46331202
Sorry, it's meant to be set in 1945.

>>46331217
>Zwischenablage
Gesundheit.

Nice looking minis, glad to see you did not give up on them.

Is there any way to buy directly from Oddzial Osmy? All I can find goes through PicoArmor or Fighting 15s, but being European I'd rather get it straight from Poland

>>46331239
Go for about 3-4k then, that should get you a good mix of small units. Reminder that many battle types have the attacker side with at least 1/3rd more points, but you can vary a lot just through troop quality. Plus that imbalance actually works out pretty well in FFoT unlike certain other games of a similar ilk (I'm looking at you Blitzkrieg Commander).

>>46325346
Yeah, lists are for Crusaders and Saracens and the event cards are tailored to the two sides.

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>>46312628
The guy makes great comics, too.

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>Just spent two hours putting the Italeri Stug III together
>Spill half a bottle of glue over the tank
>It's ruined
Well fuck me.

>>46332376
I feel you brother.

>>46332376
Got a pic? I'm sure you can save it.

>>46332430
I'm ashamed to say this but I put the stug back in it's box and then stomped on it before throwing it in the garbage.

>>46332504
in that case: fuck you!

>>46332504
Did you properly punish the offending glue bottle?

We punish dice, why not tools?

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>>46332504
nerd rage and rage quit at one time? i'm kinda impressed.
>>46332376
plastic glue or ca glue?

>>46332504
Well that's certainly one way of doing things.

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>>46332376
See if you were playing 40k you could make a cool tyranid bio-acid attack diorama out of that.

On a WW2 note, which army/nation is most popular where you guys are? In Bolt Action specifically.

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>>46332603
Please no...
>>46332635
I'm just never going to buy GW glue again. Their bottles are a pain in the ass to use.
>>46332698
Citadel Plastic Glue Thin. I really despise working with plastic. Too many small parts that I can't properly manipulate and getting glue over my big hands.
>>46332703
I certainly regret it now.

>>46332376
>>46332504

Shame. You could have probably tossed a bunch of flocking and some netting and the like on it and never known the difference. That said, I've broken off Xacto blades in tables after I've laid myself open before, so I completely get where you're coming from.

>>46333013
You could have covered the glue with some kind of camo net.

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>>46328987
OK, the British troops are in skirmish formation. They still can't shoot beyond the visual equivalent of a stones throw. Sure ground scale doesnt match figure scale in most games but when there's 1000 - 1 compression it just seems kinda dumb to me.

>>46333119
Play Force on Force

>want to buy some italeri tanks for my german army
>my lgs doesn't have jack shit and the order would arrive in a few weeks

scheisse

>>46333013
just keep the model and use it as an objective marker/scenery (exploded vehicle)...

>>46332504
I'll never understand how people can do this.
It's so... wasteful.

>>46312568
What system does this use?

>>46327572
You're fucking dead, kid.

>>46332504
... I got angry once and tossed a model halfway across the room out of anger because I couldn't get the flesh right.

>>46333856
This makes you sound like a serial killer.

how much does a 500 points bolt action game last usually?

>>46308061
Dont waste your time, Tank Wars is as good as worthless

>>46327675
Well fuck you too Johnny foreigner. Still annoyed that we stole all your pomegranates and shot all your grass skirted spear chuckers?

>>46334326
I just don't like your accents and architecture. Plus it would be funny to shoot the dog.

>>46333278
Or Skirmish Sangin

>>46334354
How odd reasons. You realise tbere are dozens of different English a cents and as many forms of architecture? Im also fairly sure that finding shooting animals funny makes you a sociopath. Or a dago.

>>46334486
You sound autistic or like a fedora or both.

>>46334525
That makes no sense at all you realise? For not finding shooting animals funny im an autistic fedora? I think its you who has mental problems sonny jim. Only to be expected from some lowly pukka wallah. Chin up though old bean, im sure self rule will kick in sooner or later.

>>46334608
bait

>>46334667
Ching ching what what

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Just starting Bolt Action, bought a few boxes of stuff..
Hows this for a list?

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There was a comment about what color to use for gun metal in the last thread so I thought I'd check into it. A made a reference card using all the colors in the black to blue-grey spectrum I have.
Photos taken under warm fluorescent light; incandescent made things look too yellow.
Unfortunately the color is a bit off from real life.

I found the best paint match was as follows:

Ruger .22 (left) – best match is German Dark Grey
Makarov (right) – Gunmetal or Black-Grey
FN FAL (top) – Dark Blue Grey
AK74 (bottom) – Flat Black

nb - it's a Bulgarian AK so it's a parkerized finish rather than bluing like the others. I think pure black would be too dark at any rate due to scale effects

>>46306193
I'm new to historical wargaming but I think I'd be really interested in 6mm, as large games and units with it seem gorgeous when done well (also it looks like building full armies is cheap as shit, which I appreciate after spending some time in GW's expensive arms).

Does anyone have any suggested rulesets? Also is there a place that sells 6mm that will ship to America and do business in USD?

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>>46335359
Bonus pic showing the range of colors for Bakelite.

I don't have any paints close to the right color for a comparison

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>>46335359
>>46335401
In conclusion I think any dark blue grey is suitable and worrying about a specific shade is a waste of time.

>>46335048
Half tracks are overcosted
The zook will almost always miss
Air observers are undetcosted and overpowered.

You need more infantry squads, infantry wins games

>>46335367
What era would be my first question

>>46335451
Thanks for that, nice to see a direct comparison.

>>46335947
Biggest interests would be medieval and napoleonic.

>>46335948
Glare on the gun metal makes it hard to see but it's a really close match in real life. I like the Vallejo paint better, the Testors seems to dry out on the brush really fast.

Also the pic makes it look like the flat black is a close match. Oh well.

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>>46336019
Id really recommend Blucher for 6mm Napoleonics. It's base size is entirely up to you so you can really get the massed effect on large bases if you want and it's for army scale engagements.
Baccus will ship to the US but it probably costs a bit (and possibly you can get the figures from ScaleCreep which I think is US based).

>>46328365

No special rules in overlord book or battle conters set ?

>>46336267
Cool. Thanks much.

I've heard from a friend that Warmaster Ancients might do well for my less gunpowder-related gaming desires. What's the general opinion around here concerning it?

>>46336267
Also do the math on ordering direct from the manufacturer versus ordering from the US. Sometimes even with 20% shipping it can be cheaper to order direct

>>46330333
which you will never paint

>>46336348
Warmaster is a pretty decent system, I kinda like it more than its successors in the x Commander series and Warlord's Hail Caesar et al.
Tighter presentation helps a lot in the latter's case.

>>46337323
Implying I'd paint a 28mm army either

>>46332845
I live in Germany most guys play either the Germans or the British, i just started and took the French(first wanted to make a Greek army but with all the different miniature seller and shit would be expensive) the people always look at me in a disgusted way when buying the french.

>>46330255
I can understand the appeal of small-action games. A lot of people are more interested in man-to-man action than grand combat.

>>46339011
It seems that almost every damn game to come out over the past few years has been one. that goes triple for kickstarter ones too.

And since certain members of my group are butterflies in regards to sticking with a system, it's been an endless procession of skirmish games that I've played. Sick of them.

>>46339164
That's understandable. I know some people also like Skirmish games because of the simplicity in building forces. I think that's the main appeal.

>>46339164
Skirmish gaming is objectively the worst kind.

>>46332845
My escalation league has a good spread. I'm playing a Free French force from Early War, there are the requisite Germans (two or three lists), then three Japanese players, a Finnish list...

For the allies there's me with the French, at least three Soviets, a couple of Marine lists, two sets of Rangers, an airborne list, two Brits, and one guy who paints an amazing Chindit battle group.

>>46332376
If it's super glue, drool on it like a retard. Or see if you can find a solution that removes the glue without melting your model too.

>>46332504
I had to stop my roommate from tossing a sdkfz 251 out our window just because he bent a piece on the sprue. He agreed to let me turn it into a wreck marker instead.

I just don't understand the anger for this shit. I build models as my downtime.

>>46340842
>I just don't understand the anger for this shit. I build models as my downtime.
Same, nothing feels as good as getting a fiddly doodad to sit in just the exact right spot.

Building minis is the best.

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Anyone played Dux Britanniarum before? Really thinking of trying to get a couple of friends into it and I'm thinking the campaign system looks too good to be true.

I used to play Age of Blood a bit, I loved the "Dark ages Mordheim" feel a lot but it quickly took forever resolving so many miniatures turns at once after you've built your warband a little and I'd love some sort of similar dark ages campaign style game.

I'd be tempted to also run it as a Saxons vs Danes campaign, reversing the saxons as the british and the danes as the saxons for it, I feel that may fit quite well from what I've seen so far of the rules. theres just so many good plastic dark ages miniatures out there right now!

>>46341558
Fuck yeah, boet.

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>>46341661
>Dux Britanniarum
Never heard of it but my Saxons and Norse gathering dust on my shelf are interested.

Please enlighten me anon.

>>46341777
You could have a read if you like, it's in our Medieval folder. It's a Two Fat Lardies game, which is a positive recommendation, at least in my opinion.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/13iag94c44pt415/Dux+Britanniarum.pdf

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>>46341777
>>46341835
Small scale battle game that's built around a campaign system. You are either the British or the invading Saxons.

The saxon player starts by raiding british lands from across the sea, gaining enough wealth to be declared a warlord by his men and giving him the right to begin conquering british lands while the british player tries to repel his raids and force him from their lands.

Looks like it could be modified to do other factions, maybe even normans vs saxons with a bit of work

>>46338539
nazi fucks cant suck a dick

This is a bit off the topic, but I guess it's close enough that people might know.

Would anyone know where you could get some good "plain" miniatues for fantasy/medieval stuff? I don't mean dull-looking miniatures, but rather miniatures with a more traditional/conservative aesthetic, as opposed to modern stuff that often tends to look really extravagant and flashy? People who look like actual people instead of comic book heroes, and miniatures that look more or less plausible and down-to-earth.

I guess historical wargame miniatues are already pretty much that, but I'd really like to find some more individualistic miniatures for rpg stuff. I just like the more down-to-earth aesthetic a lot, but it's a pain to find any good miniatures for stuff like that. Are there any good historical wargame sets that have a lot of customization or the like?

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>>46342069
Any of the Perry brothers Agincourt or War of the Roses plastic ranges are unbeliebably great models, cheap, and in plastic with huge amounts of customization. They look amazing and realistic at the same time. All around the best models I've ever bought.

If you're looking for earlier stuff,

Conquest games Norman infantry and cavalry, lots of basic looking spearmen and armoured cavalry.

Fireforge games for everything early medieval and crusades, though I do find them a little cartoonish myself

Gripping beast saxons, vikings and dark age warriors, very cool models for quite cheap

And last of all, victrix is producing some nice ancients miniatures in plastics

>>46342199
Thanks! I'll check those out.

>>46342052
Let's keep /pol/ to /pol/

>>46342288
/pol/ are the nazi fucks

>>46339264
Maybe a little hyperbolic, some of them are ok.
But so many might as well be the same game for how little they differ.

>>46333340
>>no lgs
>>no modeling shop in my city
>>no modeling shop in my county

Yeah, no, I can't really feel your pain.

>>46334354
Why is it English accent if the language is originally spoken by English AND it's called fucking English?

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>>46343279
What I enjoy about skirmish wargaming is the narrative/RPG element. They always produce great stories; there's always that one mini who performs above and beyond, and all sorts of crazy things happen. After all D&D grew out of Chainmail. When we had FivecoreAnon doing some games we got things like "Shaky Sal" for example, an otherwise anonymous mini who became a recurring character through his numerous accidental successes. So sometimes they can be very memorable in a way a larger clash wouldn't.

>>46336339
I guess not, or at least I'm told so.

>>46337323
Haha, how naive.

>>46339264
>objectively
Sure. And the reason is, because you told it so?

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>>46328365
Thank you a lot anon, there have been been frequent requests for this one. I've thrown in the core rules to make the folder complete and we can now add it to our OP, as well as removing the request - first time that's happened for a while.

https://mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ

>>46330402
>Here's the mediafire link for the PDF: https://www.mediafire.com/?gmvy3h9f8puo7l5
I really like the design there, I have to break a few minis out and give this a go tonight.

>>46344091
Are you stupid?

>>46306193
Reading Saga. It seems interesting. What's your opinion on the game, /hwg/? Are there any good battle reports of it?

Is it true that in a cold war gone hot scenario with a Warsaw Pact aggressor the Soviets were likely to roll with NBC straight out of the gate? I think it was here I read that they didn't take threats of NATO nuclear escalation seriously and would have dumped tacticals on Germany from the start, though I have no idea of the source on that.

(paging ASLanon)

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>>46346598
It depends from how war started and how it going. Both sides have nuclear weapon and amount to use them. So no one know.

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>>46346598
This was the thread where we had a pretty thorough discussion on that, started with a discussion on the "Team Yankee" novel

http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/43458328/#q43499464

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I know it's not exactly historical but does anyone have Dragon Rampant pdf from Ospreys?

>>46346598

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Days_to_the_River_Rhine

Seven days to the Rhine attack plan starts with a massed nuclear strike

>>46346734
>that one guy that hasn't realised that /his/ is terrible yet
kek

>>46346549
Its a good game, if fairly limited. If you can get a good sequence of board abilities going its great fun.

>>46344342
No probs, if I get any more, I'll post them here too.

>>46344546
You hear "English accent" way more frequently than "American accent", and in a way, yes, yes I am.

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Want.

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>>46346960
Well we have the rules at least anon

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/8fsiyo1o1eqm6/CY6_Jet_Age

I love that way of doing missiles trails too, it's so easy but looks so effective

>>46347006

Aha!
Thank you.
I just discovered the game this evening. Looking forward to an opportunity to give it a try at some future date.

>>46347006
OPFOR is vietnamise? And map, what is it? Seattle?

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>>46347039
>OPFOR is vietnamise? And map, what is it? Seattle?
That's a group of F-105s attacking the bridges in Hanoi circa 1967

>>46347077
>Hanoi
>huge stadion
>muh parkings
>muh interchanges
This is hilarious.

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>>46342324
>>46342052
This is how your father sees you, assuming you are European.

>>46347134
It's not a period map I'm assuming. Trying to track down the actual game but there's only the pics on BGG. Must have cost a bit to print out.

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>>46347138

>>46315572
So, it's worth buying rather than me floating around trying to bum a pdf off someone?

>>46347559
I'd always recommend copping a look at something first wherever possible.

Anyone ever played Age of Blood?

It's a mordheim style skirmish game set in the viking age around raiding and pillaging settlements with your warband.

I'm thinking about turning it into a nonspecific ancients setting pirate game, about leading a small pirate fleet of greeks to raid the italian coast/persian coast/other less fortunate greeks. The system is already well set up for ancient style wargames, shieldwalls being a prominent tactic with lots of skirmishers on the flanks and very little cavalry.

You choose a nationality that gives you bonuses to certain things, like Norse (Sailors) Danes (Fighters) or Svear (Traders), which I think would convert well into Athens (Sailors) Sparta/Boetia (fighters) and Corinth (Traders).

What does tg think?

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>>46347907

Also, rules for Age of Blood if anyone is interested:
http://www.rebelpublishing.net/resources/Age_of_Blood_2nd_Edition.pdf

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>>46332504
oh that is awesome. I'm sorry but this made me smile.

>>46332376
should have waited for it to set and painted it black for a burned out stug.


So last night I wrote a quick and dirty WW2 campaign game that could be played in an ongoing post by post format. Would people be interested in something like that? I could run the campaign and people could just send me their moves, and I'll update the campaign map each turn.
The game isn't complete (or playtested!), but if people are interested I can test it out and clean things up a bit. Any ideas for units, defenses / research would be welcome. Trying to keep things pretty abstract so that each player has the same options, but its down to their choices of spending and strategic moves as to how well they do. Actual battles are resolved instantaneously, with the focus being on the strategic picture.

>>46347907
>>46347911
I think I've downloaded it ages ago and it's been sitting on my hard drive for years, but never actually tried it.

>>46348246
It's pretty fun, the more I look at it the more I like the idea of converting it to an ancients setting. Done up a test page of weapons to see how my formatting skills are and I'm gonna try and knock up an ancient armour section now

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Alright, did up an armour section for my ancients version of Age of Blood. Not really going for super accuracy here, trying to abstract a lot of it like in the base game while giving enough flavor.

alright, 500 points normandy german list for bolt action:

>regular second officer with smg, attendant with smg
>10 grenadiers, nco with assault rifle, 2 smg
>10 grenadiers, nco with assault rifle, 1 smg
>7 fallschirmjager, nco with smg, 2 smg, 4 assault rifles
>regular medium machine gun
>regular sniper team

>>46348630
needs more LMGs

>>46342324
Go and whine somewhere else.

>>46332845
Italy here
Italians/germans mostly

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Hey /hwg/ I was here the other night I bought the bolt action D-Day starter set and I'm assembling my US soldiers and have a question

I'm separating my 20 US soldiers into 2 teams of 7, fire team and assault team, and I looked in the book for info on the carbine and shotgun but couldn't see anything. Do they have the same rules as the rifle? I would like to add them to my squads for variety but don't want that affecting the squads efficiency

>>46349761
>the book for info on the carbine and shotgun but couldn't see anything.

Carbines, Bolt Action rifles and Semi-auto rifles count simply as "rifle".

Shotguns have their own rules, but i think only US Marines can equip them (not sure about that though).

You can freely mix carbines with other rifle type weapons without a problem.

>>46350073
Cheers man I'll throw them in with the Springfield and the garands

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The following post may serve as a warning to everyone. Pic related is a cheap Chinese 4D models 1:72 T55 that I bought to use as wargames fodder. It only cost me about 4-5 yurobucks but you definitely get what you pay for. It has tons of moldlines and bad fit and the plastic definitely is not the best there is. Aside from build issues it also has a lot of errors. Even though I'm not that big of an autist you can see some glaring mistakes at first glance. The most obvious is the tread tires being all fucked up and there being way too many of them. I can almost live with all of this since it was super cheap and it's gonna be used for a campaign set in a fictive African country so I can just say it's a locally modified or a jury rigged model. Never should've trusted the packaging so kinda my fault but I thought I'd warn you all.

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>>46350733
If you cover the tracks with some kind of skirts made from plastic card it wouldn't look half as bad.

Its the same with the 1/48 tanks by kitech. They all share the same lower chassis sprues (tracks and roadwheels.

>>46350733
They even stole the World of Tanks logo.

>>46350859
>If you cover the tracks with some kind of skirts made from plastic card it wouldn't look half as bad.
Oh damn! That's actually a good idea. Thanks anon! It would also cover the bad fit of the chassis nicely.

>>46350891
>>46350859
tanks have skirting? Im pretty tank illiterate, can you post a picture of this?

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>>46350907
The big armour plates covering the tracks.

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>>46350907
>>46350891

It doesn`t even have to look good. Especially not if your tank is supposed to be operated by africans.

Pic kinda related.

>>46350968
>>46350949
ahh thanks. Ive never seen this before but as Ive said I'm both tank illiterate and mostly focus on WW2. So mostly I just know the different between a Sherman and a Panzer and only then just.


Tanks are so hard for me to understand, but everything infantry comes naturally and idk why

>>46351004
>and mostly focus on WW2

Almost every german tank from 43 onwards had that kind of track protection. check out a few of the osprey books in the op about tanks.

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>>46350733

Holy shit

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first fallshirmjager squad is done
gonna kick some britbong ass this friday

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>>46356323

Very nice.
I like the posing.

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>>46356323
love this guys face desu

they look great btw

>>46350073
I thought carbines could be used as a pistol when mounted?

>>46333340
same problem here, my lgs is mostly boardgames and mtg, they keep saying why not order in something?

But i'd rather order direct from say warlord for example, their customer service is great and they could have it to my door before the lgs gets it in - which is a train ride away.

For Bolt Action, who makes the best true scale WW2 vehicles?

Warlord sucks butts.

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Been working more on my pirates inspiration. Despite a surfeit of titles it seems most of them aren't particularly good, or at least don't do much to give the game a proper pirates feel. That damning review of On The Seven Seas was equally unimpressed by other rulesets, and I have to respect the guy's experience with this sort of thing. In principle I like the idea of using DBR, because I'm familiar with those rules and it would give a lot of flexibility with different opponents. But the problem there is the Buccaneers army list is not especially effective. On the plus side it has excellent Ships and Artillery and some mean Skirmishers; on the down side it's mainly Warbands (probably the worst infantry unit in DB(x)) and those Ships would only be useful if you're playing defender - otherwise you could get stuck with an all-land map and they'd just be wasted points. At least it would be relatively easy to build, but the lack of variety sort of kills the buzz. If nothing else though, there are some superb pirate minis out there.

painting a bolt action tank for the first time.

I like the look of rust on the exhaust but i'm really not sure what colour i should be attempting that with. I have a few browns to work with, or a red. How do you guys do it?

Also im pretty sure i'm about to fuck up sponge chipping. wish me luck lads

>>46362816
>Warlord

They are just rebranded Italeri kits. And its not like there is a huge variety, 1/56 is an extremely unusual scale for historical kits.

>>46362816
Rubicon Models

>>46368114
Tad more complicated than that. Italeri and Warlord made a partnership, so it's a joint effort - you can see the Italeri logo on the Warlord boxes and vica versa I think. Tho buying from Italeri is much cheaper on the mainland, plus you get some basic paints. Italeri also sells reboxed Warlord infantry, usually one sprue of infantry + a sprue of weapons.

>>46365561
Invest in a "painting hulk". This is a cheap, usualy 2nd hand model that you can try out new techniques on before you fuck up your brand new kit. Ive got a 1:48 jagdpanzer bought for me by well meaning but ill informed relatives that i use for this purpose

>>46368176
>>46368114

Its even more complicated:

Those aren't Italeri kits. Sprue design comes from Warlord. Italeri just does the casting.
Also they aren't doing all of the kits. Older ones (like the Pz 4, T-34 and Halftracks) are still casted in England by Renedra i think. Thats why these aren't available as cheaper Italeri-boxed version.

Italeri Infantry is usually 2 spures btw. You still pay more for a miniature than you would by buying a box of infantry from warlord.

>>46362816

My recommendation if you don't like Warlord is Rubicon. Kits are very detailed and usually offer alot of variety within the sprues. There are always extra parts/guns/turrets for different versions of the vehicle.

>>46353725
>and then I put two fingers up his butthole

>>46350733
Is there much in the way of AK-47-esque stuff in 1:72?

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>>46368969
There's a whole range of various minis that would work, especially modern stuff from Caesar and Esci's Vietnam figs. You could pick and mix various Cold War sets for just the right units. The majority of 1:72 vehicle kits are WW2 but there's still enough more recent stuff.

Bolt Action infantry: Anyone pinning their 28mm grunts to their bases, or am I being neurotic? They "feel" a tad delicate, like they need reinforcing everywhere.

>>46369034
You are neurotic.

>>46369040
>things I secretly knew/10

>>46344076
What are you, Somali?

>>46369344
Hungarian. I said county, not country.

>>46368114
>>46368159
>>46368239
Thanks lads. I'll check out Rubicon, see how it goes.

post historical tables

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>>46371074
genuine 19th century English Mahogany, this one.

>>46371102
I wanna play napoleonics on it

>>46371114
It's only about 3x4' and costs $8400 but don't let that kill your dreams.

>>46371074
is this some kind of new board meme?
>mods are asleep. post tables

>>46371142
he meant like tables with full battles on them

>>46371138
3mm exists

>>46371245
It'll be about all you could afford to play after buying that fucking table.

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>>46371074
If you insist.

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>>46371074

>>46371267
>>46371245
You could fit everything needed in the draws itself, just get a nice green turf mat and some small buildings and trees and you're good to go

>>46371245
unfortunately

>>46372396
what crawled up your ass

>>46372417
The Grande Armee in 3mm I guess.

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>>46368969
The Trumpter T54/55 kits are nice and go together quickly. One step removed from quick build.

S Model also has a fair amount of modern stuff, again at the not quite quick build level. But very nice.
http://henk.fox3000.com/sModel.htm

Model Collect has lots of WARPAC stuff but I think they're more intricate kits. Havent seen any in person.
http://henk.fox3000.com/modelcollect.htm

For African intanfry, see Elhiem and Under Fire Miniatures in addition to the plastics already mentioned.

>>46372436
...Mon Dieu...