Jumpchain CYOA Thread #758: Ghouls and Ghosts and Gods Edition

Okay, let's settle this for once-Law, Neutral or Chaos?

>>46285358
Yes

>>46285358
Eh, I like a good bit of stability but I also like some of the challenges like can throw at me.

Guess I'm in the Neutral party

>>46285358
They are all the same.

>>46285358
Glorp

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>>46285358
I don't subscribe to that false trichotomy.
Justice and Liberty is all that matters.

>>46285453
>Liberty is all that matters.
So, Chaos.

>>46285659
There's no justice in Chaos.

>>46285673
Justice is subjective.

>>46285685
Subjectivism pls go out behind the barn to be shot.

>>46285448
That's not how they work and no.

>>46285453
That's gonna suck when you actually get to 40k and have to overthrow the imperium for the injustices it's inflicted on humanity, unless you consider the whole Astronomicon sacrifice thing to be justice.

>>46285736
Well considering the fact humanity would die out without it, they'd be a bit stupid to complain.

>>46285358
Depends completely on the universe and legal system/authority in question.

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>>46285736
I''m not so blind that I don't stop when the alternative to tyranny is only a worse tyranny.

The Imperium is necessary. It could be better but it could be a whole lot worse

>>46285673
But Chaos and Order are neither good or bad. There are tyrannical dictators in the side of order, and benevolent freedom fighters in the chaos side.

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>>46285358
Edgy

>>46285358
>not choosing on a whim each jump

>>46285802
So, chaos.

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>>46285358
Chaos is the only fun path.

>>46285775
That sounds like pro chaos talk to me il mio famiglio

What would you say is the most versatile magic system in the chain?

>>46285948
D&D

>>46285956
Severely limited in application.

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>>46285358
Order magic on the streets; chaos magic in the sheets.

>>46285948
Maybe going magic-user background in Young Justice?

>>46285358
I don't have time to choose an alignment and I don't care.
I'm too busy protecting the smiles of the innocent.
Nothing else matters compared to their safety and happiness.

>>46285673
Chaotic Good is still Chaotic.

For Pokemon, do you stick to them only knowing four moves (as long as they are in the Pokemon world)? Do you even keep track of those moves, or do you allow them to use any moves that they are capable of learning?

>>46286532
It seems incredibly silly to me to limit them to having only four moves. It's useful as a game mechanic, and probably even as their primary moves, but it's doubtful that those would be their ONLY abilities when you're actually there for ten years.

>>46285358
Oscillating wildly from one to the other.

So sort of chaos but more erratic.

>>46286570
I always imagined moves as quasi-magical abilities that they can only have 4 of at a time, so for example if you taught a Scyther swordsmanship it wouldn't necessarily mean that it knew slash, but if it did know slash it could probably combine it with its skills to do more damage.

>>46286570
>>46286651
Indeed. I ask because the anime, too, followed the four-moves-limit (aside from a few exceptions in the earlier seasons).
For example, since Pikachu used Electro Ball for the first time, it has never used Volt Tackle again.

>>46286712
I think that's just a product of the animators and writers going for simplicity.

>>46286737
Keeping track of moves sounds harder than just using whatever you feel like though.

But it's not like there's a right or wrong answer here, I was just wondering how people here ruled it.

>>46286794
I completely ignore the move limit personally, to throw my hat in there.

>>46286001
If you mean that it's hard to adjust on the fly then i'd agree, barring some rather useful build choices like Uncanny Forethought.
On the whole though there aren't a lot of things you can't do with D&D magic, even with the focus on combat that published material has.
Add in the ability to research/create new spells and D&D magic can do whatever you need, and it has a pretty decent power level and variety of effects.

>>46286822
I ignored it for my Pokemon, but Mystery Dungeon explicitly has the move limit, so my Pokemon have more moves than my Alt-form does...

>>46286940
Don't flaunt it around here too much, but if you're like me and you think something is petty and stupid in a jump and it doesn't have some kind of wider impact or purpose you just ignore it.

>>46286953
The problem is PMD has a perk for getting to use a fifth move.

>>46287002
If you were just going to ignore it you obviously wouldn't buy that.

>>46287015
Yeah, but the issue is that the Jump doesn't just say "oh, you can only have four moves," it bases other options around the idea that four moves is the baseline. So it's goes past ignoring a stupid thing into the level of "I get extra CP because I want it."

>>46287068
I don't understand why you think someone committed to ignoring something they think is stupid in a jump is going to be deterred by that. They've already expressed the idea that they don't care about ignoring the rules if they don't agree. A second rule to ignore means little.

Seriously, accusations and complaints about how I behave are not gonna have any effect on me, no matter how many you throw.

>>46287166
>Don't flaunt it around here too much
Please take your own advice.

>>46287178
Would have if you hadn't felt the need to try and 'reason', anon. Kinda your fault for wanting to talk about it.

>>46287192
I'm not that second anon, and if you don't want to talk about something and won't listen to reason regarding it, don't bother to post it. You're not adding anything by saying "yeah, you can cheat, and nobody can stop you." We all know that already.

>>46287225
>'reason'
Ah, here comes the offense. That self-righteous attitude over how others play the singleplayer game.

I'm giving an anon advice and telling 'em how to avoid you types and your intense autism. Me personally, I don't care how much you complain at me. It's pretty entertaining. You can keep going all you'd like, ruin your thread and make yourself sad and depressed about the state of it because of your own horrible habits of picking fights with each other over minutia. No skin off my back at all.

>>46287256
It's cute you think you're any better. You're playing the exact same Mary Sue themed masturbatory fantasy I am, and getting even more self-righteous about it.

>>46287458
But anon dear, I'm not getting mad about it.

>>46287502
People who aren't mad don't feel the need to stress how not mad they are.

>>46287620
Are you really trying some kind of low rent trolling? Geez anon it's like you care more about your pride than you do the thread.

>>46286940

Can't you just buy a bunch of TMs in Pokémon Trainer and/or learn how to make them, and then use them to switch the four moves you have available at a time when you have a chance to use them?

Sure it would take time and money to set up, and research/tech perks, but those aren't that hard to get.

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>>46285358
Law. My Law.

>>46287836
Problem is that not all moves are TMs.

>>46287893
Hello there Gilgamesh

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>>46287893
>>46287962

>>46287922

True, but even if you can't figure out how to make new ones (not including the HMs which you would probably have to buy and kind of suck for this idea) it would still increase what your pokemon form can do by a lot.

>>46286532
Nah, the move limit only came up in Mystery Dungeon so I see the Pokemon Jump more like the Manga and stuff.

They know all their moves, you just stop using some of them after awhile since there are better things kind of deal.

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>>46287962
>>46287984
YES HELLO! FOR THIS CHAOTIC WORLD IT IS MORPHING TIME! SO SAYS I GILGABEL!!!

Also speaking of Pokémon there's something I've been wondering.

Let's say you take Mental Bond, but not Pokeglot in Pokémon Trainer.

Would the starter pokemon's thought speech still be translated into a human-like equivalent, or would it be 'heard' untranslated?

>>46288159
It sounds like Pengu.

>>46288159

You see giant floating subtitles

>>46288159
I would imagine you have a more direct line to their emotions, which drastically improves communication more than words do, though getting used to it might take some time,

Just wanna clarify that I have no current claims on iron druid or any other property you have not seen a wip from me on, just in case anyone wanted to work on those. I wanna improve my current jumps more than I wanna add new ones, and grrl power is gonna be the last new jump from me for a while,

Speaking of Pokemon, what kind were you in PMD, Jumpers?

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>>46288408
egg birb

>>46288408
Ninetales. Them fabulous fluffs and mystical powers.

>>46288075
>Gilgabel
I would be both highly amused and incredibly hyped to see that.

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>>46288408
I was the best monkey.

The best.

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>>46286532
Chesnaught/Noah: Leech Seed, Drain Punch, Spiky Shield, Wood Hammer
Me/ Typhlosion: Eruption, Fire Blast, Focus Blast, Sunny Day, Calm Mind.
>>46288408
A Flaming Badger.
>>46285358
Neutral.

How survivable is kamen rider is an early jump?

>>46288408
Feraligatr

>>46288408
Lucario

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So it seems Fate/Extra will be getting an anime adaptation done by studio shaft with Nero as the heroine. Which means no Tamamo shaft neck tilt shot, or Tamamo in general. I'm in despair. The internet has left me in despair.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-03-27/fate-extra-game-gets-tv-anime-in-2017/.100347

>>46288705

Are you actually surprised that the Saber clone got the anime adaptation?

>>46288705
Ha my emperor proves a best

>>46288656
Showa's a bit easier to deal with than Heisei series because it often lacks the more OMG HAX! villains. You can still die in Showa but honestly have a few jumps under your name and take something like a Kamen Rider background and you should be fine. I wouldn't suggest the more physical weaker backgrounds though.

>>46288705
Oh god, just the main route or CCC? Because if CCC, then nobody's ever gonna look at Angra Mainyu the same way again.

>>46288704
Lucarioanon? Haven't seen you in a while.

>>46288408
Vaporeon, with Sylveon as my partner.

>>46285358
>not seeking Oblivion

>>46288827
Ok thanks man.

>>46288705
>MAI EMPRESSU IS THE HEROINE
I AM SO FUCKING PUMPED
I cannot express my happiness in words.

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>>46288408
OPEN THE DOOR

GET ON THE FLOOR

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>>46288705
>>46289026
Best Saber.

>>46288705
>No cheating whore in the anime.
That's good.

Would Fists of Judgement protect me from the actual sun of Fallen London? What about other suns, if you're a vampire or something?

>>46289393
Ohey ntranon, wondered when you'd bite.

>>46289408
Since when has that been my name? I thought I was just the guy that bitched about Tamamo.

Also are you calling that anon bait?

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>>46288408
Raichu master race

>>46289393
I always find it odd that you're so offended that the character whose legend is defined by being a heartless and unfaithful manipulator would cheat on your character. What were you expecting, going in?

>>46289509
I posted this the last time and I'll post it again.
>Type Moon Tamamo
>Same as mythological Tamamo
I mean do you know anything about how this series treats historical and mythical entities? Your argument also falls apart at the step where we examine her characterization and the way the game frames and treats the event.

>>46289509
>>46289393

Tamano cheats on he MC? What?

>>46289548
It really doesn't, though. Her seeming all sweet and loyal up until then was exactly how she was before she betrayed Emperor Konoe. And her Type Moon characterization isn't that different from her legendary one, the only change is that she's now inexplicably a sub-soul of Amaterasu. You got lured in by her cute and sweet waifu act, despite knowing what she was.

>>46289618
It does, though. Have you even played the game? You're just coming across like you think you're clever for knowing mythology and that instantly makes you an expert on all adaptations you haven't even touched.

>>46289601
Yes, she fucks Rani/Rin behind your back in the game.

>>46289601
As you know, bodily fluids have magic in the Nasuverse.

For whatever reason, you can't supply prana to Tamamo at a certain point, so she HAS to fuck Rin or Rani. If she doesn't, she dies, and you go down too due to no longer having a Servant.

>>46289633
I have, and I really think you're overselling it. Her more evil side peaks through at points, and I don't know how you didn't see it.

>>46289548

I kind of have to agree with this.

I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain mythical Tamamo was not secretly an amnesiac aspect of Amaterasu that decided she wanted to try playing minion. Who then screwed up, probably do to the amnesia, became a monster for some time, had one of her tails become a cat girl, and had most of the rest of her tails become other animal people.

Oh and I'm also fairly certain mythical Tamamo is not a jackal pretending to be a kitsune if that random comment wasn't a joke.

>>46289618

Mythical Tamamo had one of her tails turn into a cat girl, and was actually a jackal pretending to be a kitsune (if that one line wasn't a joke and/or Caster Tamamo being the jackal girl tail)?

>>46289651
Yet they decide to do it behind your back and lie about it, refusing to lt you know or inform you. So they cheat without your knowledge and if you peek in and discover it they laugh it off and treat it like you're a silly pervert without giving the player any option to object to or confront them on this shit.

>>46289661
Then you're a moron. You and I both know how the game treats the events and her actions. If it was meant to be her 'evil moment of betrayal omg dark and edgy!' it would have framed it as such, and not played it off as fanservice comedy.

>>46289651
I wouldn't really call that her fault, then. Any time someone is a victim of that kind of convoluted bullshit the only one to blame is the author.

>>46289713
See >>46289704

>>46289651
>>46289633
>>46289704


That's rather surprising honestly. I thought she was honest about all that wanting to be the perfect wife to Hakuno thing. Guess I was wrong. Is it the same with the other servants or is it a event unique to her?

>>46289726
It happens to all the servants, but Nero at least is up front about how she wants a harem, so it's not a betrayal from her perspective since you knew she'd be willing to do that when you got her.

Meanwhile Tamamo has her cheater castrating punch she threatens to use on you, then turns around and cheats herself. Scumbag hypocrite.

>>46289704
You know? I still think you need to chill the fuck out, 'cause unlike Hakuno any Jumper taking her won't be forced by the writers to take this shit lying down, but you're not wrong.

>>46289726
Far as I know, she legitimately wants the whole loving wife act to be real, but it's still just that. An act.

>>46289760
Man all I did was comment that I'm glad she's not in the anime. Blame there being an argument this time to Smartass McGee up there that smugly thinks that mythological Tamamo is the exact same as TM Tamamo and wants to argue I shouldn't dislike her.

>>46289393
Do you have to bring this up every single time she's mentioned? We get it, you mad. You don't have to keep reminding us. We'll assume you mad until you say otherwise.

Guys, guys.

Guys.

You're talking about a Nasu work. Shit like this should be yawn-worthy by now. It doesn't keep characterization straight except in few cases.

>>46289760
>>46289745

Wow, now I honestly dislike her. What a bitch.

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Daily reminder that all waifus are shit.

SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!

>>46289789
See >>46289787

>>46289823
Now you know the True Path.

TM doesn't have any good waifus, really. I don't think I've ended up liking anyone else beyond the occasional design.

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>>46289824
U looken for a fite m8?

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>>46289787
>Man all I did was comment that I'm glad she's not in the anime

Don't pull that bullshit. You wrote it in a way that made it clear it was you, even though you knew it would start shit.

You're free to your own opinion, but you insist on bringing it up at every fucking opportunity, and you're just such a cunt about it.

>>46289857
I don't think you can accuse me of picking fights when all your post is doing is picking a fight after the conversation should've ended.

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>>46289824
Needs more animation


>>46289821
Speaking of consistency or the lack therein, Florence Nightingale is apparently a Berserker with a gun for what that's worth compared to other zerkers

>>46289704
Again, that's not really the character's fault. That's the author mind controlling them to do something stupid.

Jumpers!

How do you become the perfect waifu/husbando?

>>46289940
Take that one Libriomancer drawback and retain it.

>>46289927
Characters are nothing more than the author's puppets, the sum total of his manipulations.

>>46289940
There's a perk in Persona for mastering household chores.

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>>46289940
Everyone has different interests. There's bound to be someone out there who's buttons you push just by existing.

>>46289940
You already are.

I love you guys,

>>46289940
Go to Toriko, become the best chef. A waifu or husbando must cook.

Sadly Maid RPG is not a jump yet so your household chores powers will not come to full fruition.

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>>46290003
Excellent.

>>46290023
That's Blazblu, isn't it? Where can I get these love bullets?

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>>46290023

>>46290037
That's Guilty Gear, you dong.

Also there'll be something like that in SMT1.

>>46290037
Its Blazblue's 90s big brother Guilty Gear

>>46290104
Same thing.

Does that have a jump?

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>>46289892
Really? That conversation warrants popcorn? I’ve seen it so many times by now that it’s less popcorn and more “Le sigh, more reruns”.

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>>46290254
You learn to take the ever-twisting logic and constant arguments that erupt sometimes with a grain of salt or it's just going to burn you out.

>>46290119
I'll fight you.

I don't think so.

Kinda sad we can blaze our blues all we want, but there are no cogs to convict.

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>>46290003
oh noooooooooo

>>46290290
>Cogs to convict
>Jump comes out
>0cp drawback where that's the new story
Would you jump?

>>46290382
...Can I use a Return to go through the actual plot later?

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>>46290281
Fair point. Besides, that kind of conversation doesn’t even faze me anymore. It’s not even an argument by JC standards.

>>46290433
...Yes?

>>46290462
...Yes.

>>46290514
...No.

>>46290531
...Maybe?

>>46290537
Unless the answer is yes, except if it is no.

>>46290537
...Sorta!

>>46290553
>>46290568
...No, of course.

>>46290553
>>46290568
>>46290596
Uncultured.

>>46290281

But isn't that much salt kind of expensive? Can't we use the flames to heat something up instead, like I don't know roasting marshmallows or cooking something else for those that don't eat marshmallows?

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Kill la Kill

Music Club
Drop-In
Makolingual 100
Chef
Gifted 300
Stunt Driver 400
Radiant Presence 600
Tailor 900
Ki Technique 1200
Fiber Hybrid 1400
Life Fiber Spool 1800
Target 1000

Well this is a weird one to get your head around without knowing the source material.

Basically ended up taking all the abilities I understood (besides Resolve as it's a little weedy for the price) and ended up better at cooking, music and driving while gaining a level in lightshows and ki and learning how to make things with Life Fibers.

Also took a spool of Life Fibers with which to mess around with in my own time.

Target means the head fashion Nazi wants me dead but as they'd be trying to kill me anyway due to my inevitable attack on the fashion Nazi regime it's pretty much free points. It's a cheap move but if I have to blow up the whole place I will.

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>>46290614
Be careful, lest you enflame nothing but a dark desire.

>>46290854
But anon, Jumpers can become devils - which, as you know, are so much stronger than a man.

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>>46290892

>>46290892

But devils can't summon an aspect of God to kill the rest of their species, gain control of an army of devils and one super devil using some random ideology they like, use them to kill any other humans that survived the apocalypse they caused, and then punch the aspect of God into making the next universe based on their ideology.

Although to be fair that's probably a good thing.

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Tell me about KanColle, /jc/. Is it worth it to pull together a team of "losers" from various navies and whip them into shape, or should I just go for the big guns like pic related?

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>>46291347
I assume in a navy based setting it'd make sense to adopt a bunch of differing role ships to maximize nautical capabilities but at the same time Iowa apparently does have the best stats out of the "Fast Battleship" role so i guess you can compromise.

Unless you mean pick you're waifu/daughteru then i guess go with your heart on that one

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>>46291470
I was mostly gonna grab all the ships with the worst histories to give them a second chance.

My flagship was even gonna be the Wille D.

>>46291347
Worth it or not is subjective and entirely up to you m8. What does worth it mean in this case? Looking for firepower, general force competence, waifu/daughteru, making a fantasy football equivalent of fleets?

>>46291601
Am I going to regret giving a second chance to >>46291519's pic related and other such "failures?"

Is it going to get me fired?

That's all I really wanna know.

>>46291347
I've never actually figured out, but just what are shipgirls? And what would their capabilities be compared to the ship they are based off?

>>46291775
They have the same capabilities.

>>46291775
They're the ghosts of sunken ships, or something like that.

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>>46291981
Weren't those the Abyssals?

Are they somehow basically the same thing?

>>46291981
I think that's what the Abyssal shipgirls are, and the shipgirls themselves are the personification of their ships?

>>46292122
Well, you know how some Japanese ghosts are just fine and dandy with the living, but some are just murderous monstrosities because all they have left of their past identity is grief and pain?

>>46290305
Woolie and Matt get out of here.

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>>46292167
Okay so they ARE the same thing but some of them didn't take it well.

Good to know.

>>46288875
Probably not, they always posts with an image. Lucario isn't exactly an obscure choice since aura powers, good typing, and fur bait.

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>>46288408
Squirtle. Had to go with the classics and I already got Charmander as my starter.

Are there any perks that let you selectively control your durability?

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>>46288408
Chesnaught

move set: Giga Impact ,Pain Split ,Earthquake ,Spiky Shield

>>46292193
Technically, there's no canon on what either of them are, but that's more because there's.. basically no canon beyond that events and stages and shipgirl/abyssal quotes reference historical events during WWII. Some Abyssal Shipgirls do resemble normal shipgirls, or have quotes or some other connection to an important location during WWII. This is where the impression that Abyssal Shipgirls are "evil" shipgirls, or sunken versions of them that came back from the dead due to grudges.

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>>46290669
Kingsman

Chav
Never Knocks
Straight Outta Estuary 100
Honor Among Thieves 300
Top Scores 600
Blue Blood Privileges 1200
A Hands On Approach 1300
Amputee 1000

Bit of fun this one. Not actually seen the movie but it's easy to work it out in broad strokes and it's set in a more ludicrous version of the real world. Plus back in the old homeland.

Went Chav as I liked the discounts and it was cheap. Never Knocks is a nice freebie. Straight Outta Estuary is another driving perk (probably more useful here as I can stick this jump in early in chain). Honor Among Thieves makes my underlings keep my secrets and makes me pointless to torture. Top Scores gives me some shooting/acrobations and the ability to use both well at the same time, given I took Savant and Freerunning in Pokemon this'll give a buff to both and make me a hell of a lot more dangerous. Blue Blood Privileges is fun for the 'prince from a foreign land' thing but I may well not use it in this jump.

A Hands On Approach uses unique features of your body to password protect your stuff. Had 100 CP left and this is actually a great option, lots of mad shit about my body people can't replicate.

Amputee isn't a particularly big deal. Can easily knock together a prosthetic but the wording of the perk means that wouldn't be allowed. Not sure how it'd work but I guess whenever I attach one it'd just magically flop off. Still psionics help me doing stuff and getting about. I also assume I lost an arm rather than a leg as I'm really good at freerunning. Just rolled and lost my dominant arm which is a bit of a pisser.

Don't know how long I'll stick about the council estate I assume I live on and there's no age roll so I guess I'm my age. May go full kingpin.

>>46293278
Toggle from Young Justice .

>>46293278
>>46293488
I mistyped. What I meant to ask was how I could go about selectively controlling the durability of individual body parts?
I'd like to keep my bones nigh-invulnerable while making my flesh barely more resilient than the human norm.

>>46293835

Cho anki and pick the perk that allows you to control every part of your body

I'm making my builds for the new Devil Survivor jumps now, and so I'm gonna be fighting Lucifer in DS1...

But I was wondering if there were any perks that lessen or remove collateral damage. Because I'm pretty sure I'm going to break a continent at minimum, and most likely accidently Exterminatus the planet.

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>>46288408
Ghost chandelier.

Wanted some fire, liked the stats, ended up with yellow/golden eyes from that point on.

Also they can take things and people to the ghost dimension.

>>46289704
>Yet they decide to do it behind your back and lie about it, refusing to lt you know or inform you. So they cheat without your knowledge and if you peek in and discover it they laugh it off and treat it like you're a silly pervert without giving the player any option to object to or confront them on this shit.

Yeah, this was totally mishandling it. Though it's probably in character for both of them though. Rin/Rani is a magus so it's not a big deal to them and Tamamo actually liking you and thinking lying is better than hurting you.
When it's found out they have to make it like it's no big deal and that your just being unreasonable. It's for your own survival.
I think it was a dumb bit to include in the game since you and your servant are supposed to be counting on each other for their life and while adding something like this can add tension and friction. If your not going to address it and maybe give Tamamo a chance to redeem herself in the eyes of the player it's just going to piss them off.
I like Tamamo but after that yeah I can certainly see why some people don't. Ironically it's the more the game they should be pissed at because the player character isn't giving the player a chance to act like a normal human being would.
Thankfully any jumper who takes that jump is going to have magic and likely magic circuits of their own so they should have no problem refueling her.

>>46294054
Worm has one called, appropriately enough, No Such Thing As Collateral. It makes it so that your actions only produce cosmetic collateral damage no matter how strong your attacks. Your enemies can still produce it, but you instinctively know what to do to minimize it without limiting yourself tactically.

>>46294054
There is one in worm. One of the perks, not powers too, so you don't have to worry about that.
And I think there was one in generic magical girl. One of the capstones.

>>46293835
Well, you could always get adamantium bones from marvel for that, I suppose.

>>46294054
I think there was one in the Magical Girl Jump.

Lets you put up a safety zone to fight in. Any damage you do there goes away at the end.

>>46294054
Worm has one that reduces collateral from your actions to a minimum and lets you infallibly know how to reduce the collateral from others. Generic Magical Girl has a perk that draws you and your opponent into a parallel dimension so no one in the real world gets hurt. Cardcaptor Sakura has one undoes every bad thing your opponent has done once you defeat them, except for death.

>>46294072
You're jumping through hoops justifying shitty writing. Don't do that.

>>46294072

Actually I just realized it's actually dumber than it looks.

The Moon Cell is computer data, Extra magic consists of "Oops magic died but we can use it's remains for hacking. Let's do that", and unless I'm misremembering the justification for leveling up is Aoko hacks your Servant into being better.

So um why does it seem like nobody considered the obvious solution of asking the Aozaki sisters if they could fix things?

>>46294117
>>46294139
>>46294161
>>46294183
Excellent. Those three should cover most of my bases. Thanks.

>>46294161
>>46294139
>>46294117
Cardcaptor has another useful one called Ctrl-z that undies any damage caused by an enemy after they're defeated. Except death. Dead people stay dead after the enemy was defeated, so pick up some resurrection perks.

>>46292182
I was secretly Woolie and Matt all along

>>46294229
Already got mentioned >>46294183, but thanks.

>>46285358
Neutral, leaning towards Law.


>>46285685
I am not.

>>46286532
I let them use any move they can learn without a TM or HM unless I have a story to explain how they got it.

>>46288159
I imagine that the Thought would be translated, especially since Thought isn't even entirely Words, it's emotions, pictures, and half-existing other senses, and Words.

>>46288408
Machop, evolved to Machamp during my 10 years. The extra pair of arms comes in handy.

>>46288705
I like both Nero and Tamamo, but come on dude. Of course the Saber Clone is gonna get top billing.

>>46289076
Best Saber is Mordred

>>46289940
First of all, cover the Basics. Take care of yourself, dress in whatever style suits you but dress Well, know how to cook, etc.

After that? It all depends on who you want to be with.

>>46291347
Do it, it'll be fun. But I imported Light of Terra, so what the fuck do I know?

>>46294245
So that's why whenever you're around, my god damn pies keep disappearing.

>>46294227
Oh, and I may as well promote myself a bit. Nechronica has one too.

Rear Guard's Pride makes it so your stay shots and attacks never hit an innocent person/bystandard by accident.

Unless you are intentionally firing a volley of missiles at a colony or something you know.

>>46294279
through the internet

>>46294329
Excellent. Can never be too sure with the beamspam I'm planning on. Thanks.

>>46294190
I'm calling it shit writing and that's jumping through hoops trying to justify shit writing?
I am pointing out that up to a point it wasn't shit writing but when they don't let you respond... yeah it becomes shit writing.
They could have turned it in to something by having the tension about it grow and grow until Tamamo breaks down. Maybe she tries to get the PC a new servant and kill herself because she feels unworthy or believes the PC will abandon her and the PC actually has to save her. Maybe then she gives them a tearful explanation of why she did things and so they know what a terrible situation she was in.

>>46294373
Of course. Got to cover all your bases.

That shit never comes up in the comics and stories. Where do all those stray beams go? Who cleans up after all the loose explosives laying about?

Who cares? You got a perk so just hand wave it away!


....Now I'm imagining Jump Chan walking around with tongs picking up lose missiles and collecting bullets. "Fucking Jumpers. Leaving their shit everywhere. I'm not their god damn mother! I'm above this shit!"

>>46294434
Well, maybe she shouldn't have offered us those perks, then. She's got no one to blame but herself.

>>46293390
Wasn't someone saying the connections to WW2 locations were that they abyssal ships were the Americans? I remember someone complaining about that a few times in theses threads.

>>46294634
Most of them are, yeah. They've started including some Japanese Abyssals, though.

>>46294521
Ha, yeah, its one of those things I think of occasionally.

"What? Every point into magical girls? Thats like...uh..several million magical girls? Why! Take the magical blast! Take a magic chainsaw! Just stop taking a million companions! Gaaah!"

"Boxes! Its just boxes! What are you doing! Why would you buy an ordinary cardboard box!"

"Oh for the love of....Stop doing that! Stop dumping all your points into one thing! You have so many options! You don't need to make a super item!"

>>46294712
I find this very amusing.

>>46294634
In the PSP Game, there was an American Shipgirl finally introduced, Iowa.

>>46294712
I know for certain I pissed Jump-chan off when I realized that there are multiple jumps where dumping all your points into one super-item can get you an entire universe all to yourself. I haven't done it yet, because I feel like that's going against the spirit of those jumps, but I imagine it would inspire some dread in the Benefactor. "Oh shit. He just noticed I didn't put a limit on how many times you can buy the size expansion option. But he has to realize that dumping 1600CP into it would be boring, right? There are so many other cool things to buy in this jump. Please, Anon, don't do it, I'm begging you! Don't make me have to figure out how to fit your entire parallel universe into each world you visit. That's not cool, man!"

>>46294849
Wait, what? How do you get your own universe?

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>>46291621
Coyote is gonna goof up, it's literally her noble phantasm by this point. As inseparable from her as the light from the sun, but you can try. You are a jumper, it will either be an amusing success or disaster. I doubt being assigned the ships and having some minor fuck ups is going to get you fired here. You need to really screw the pooch to do that, politically, figuratively, or literally. Good luck admiralanon.

>>46291775
Spirits of the ship given human form which retain the strength, speed, durability, etc. and firepower of the original through their equipment.

>>46292193
Some are albino with an appetite for destruction. Some are tan with an appetite for bauxite or D.

>>46292585
A gentleman and a scholar you are, sir.

>>46294054
Ctrl+Z from Card Captor lets you hit the undo button on damage done during a battle after defeating a foe. However, it does not bring back the dead so watch out for that. Try not to die while you're at it.

>>46294196
Plot induced stupidity. Also that what they do is simply fiddle with the connection between you to improve the flow and restore their original abilities. You dun goofed their summoning so they're at all Es, and have no experience in providing them energy. Is what I remember them saying about the matter.

>>46294262
> But I imported Light of Terra, so what the fuck do I know?

Presumably knowing about fucking the light of Terra.

>>46294373
Nanoha jump has a perk from reducing beam spam and the like's collateral damage.

>>46294849
Ha, yeah. I love looking at options like that just to THINK about them.

Like for the WIP Shaman King Jump, Small Spirits are 50 Cp per 12 in the group. Looking at that, technically that means for 1600 CP (Standard Drawback amount), you could get a Companion composed of 384 Small Animal/Insect Spirits. Nothing else mind you but you could still do it. Subject to change of course.

Why do that? For other silly shenanigans of course. Like taking that companion to the Zerg Jump, making them a Zergling and getting the x3 Upgrade to have 1,152 Zergling as one companion! Or something along those lines.

Silly stuff is always fun to imagine doing.

So Amon was capable of bloodbending with just his face and Bumi was pretty much capable of capturing a city while only being able to move his face, so if I double up on Genius and Waterbending, would I be able to do large water bending with just minor movements?

>>46295165
I mean, Amon was capable of bloodbending without moving at all. Gah.

>>46294938
Two of Dirge's jumps offer personal territories that have expansion options with no upper limit. Atelier Arland has an herb garden as an ordinary item, Dark Cloud 2 has a village you get as a scenario reward and the ability to use items you purchased with CP to make modifications. Now, like I said, this is totally going against the spirit of the jump so you'd have to be a dick to use them that way, but if you really wanted to...

Start with the Dark Cloud 2 village, assume it's about a kilometer on a side. Each purchase of Size Increase costs 5% Atlamillia charge and doubles the village's size. You get 200% charge for free just for going through the scenario. The Temporal Charges you can buy in the items section cost 50CP and add 10% charge. There's no listed drawback max, but let's assume 600CP, meaning you can buy 32 Temporal Charges for an additional 320% charge. So 520% charge, 1040 purchase of Size Increase, 2^1040 is 1.178 times 10^313. even if you assume that Size Increase just doubles the volume and not the dimensions (so no cubing), the volume of our universe is still only 2.85 times 10^81 kilometers cubed. So, it's still ten trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion times the size of our universe.

But again, that's clearly not what Dirge had in mind for that scenario. Interpreting it as letting you buy your own 10^232 universes worth of space is absurd. Clearly he didn't bother putting in a limiter jut because he didn't think anyone would actually do something so insane. So I would never actually do this, it would feel like cheating. But it makes a fun theoretical exercise.

>>46294941
>Nanoha jump has a perk from reducing beam spam and the like's collateral damage.
Nice, stacking these perks all day long apparently. Thanks.

>>46295165
>>46295184
That's a single purchase.

Two purchases is like, Avatar in one element level.

>>46295165
Yes, easily. Taking Genius once would already allow you to do that. Taking it twice basically means you can probably do single Genius-level stuff with your eyebrows or something.

>>46295202
That... actually sounds hilarious, yes.

>>46295291
So like what would two levels of Genius Firebending be like? Better than when the comet was about?

Cause thats a lot of fire.

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>>46293469
Magicka

Dunderhead
26 years old
Wizard
Basic Magic
Basic Magicks
Constant Channeling 100
Rapid Spellcasting 300
Advanced Magicks 600
Forbidden Magicks 1200
Magick Tome 1300
Sausages
Grand Tome of Magick 1600
Annoying Fairy 1500
Your Hands Are Slippery 1300
Goblin Mook 1000

So I'm good at magic, bad at picking things up followed around by an obnoxious fairy and goblins.

Basic Magic gives me magic. Basic Magicks teaches me the basics. Rapid Spellcasting makes me quicker at casting spells which can only be a good thing. Advanced Magicks makes me really good at magic, don't know the game so don't know how much but it can't hurt. Forbidden Magicks lets me look through the looking glass and lets me make up spells.

Magick Tome lets me teach spells and Grand Tome of Magick lets me teach magic which is really nice. Takes a long time but it could come in handy, particularly as I create new spells.

I like Sausages.

Plan is to create a goblin kingdom and possibly genetically engineer some competence into the goblins. Maybe teach some some magic or the wonders of technology or something. Start the goblin renaissance.

>>46295291
>Take a light breath and exhale a tornado.
>Snap your fingers and cause an inferno.
>With each step, shake cities.
>With just your eyes, stall tsunamis.

I can dig it.

>>46295225
>>46295291
Thanks.

>>46295291
Would one purchase be enough to pull off the Bloodbending during the day without the full moon?

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>>46295343
I think so, yeah. Whole lot of fire indeed.

>>46295418
So OneArmedAnon?

>>46295442
Burning things is fun. OAA shouldn't be the only one allowed to do it.

>>46295414
You can eventually master that with the normal purchase of Bloodbending already... But yeah, going Genius would make it pretty easy to get to that level.

>>46289633
>Behind your back
As I recall, she does it with the full knowledge and endorsement of the protagonist, because if she didn't she would fucking die.

>>46295414
Read the perks, man.

>>46295495
Nope. Watch the scene again.

God what is with you people responding hours later while I'm trying to read about flowers?

>>46295343
>Double Genius level Firebending
>During Sozin's Comet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l6vqPUM_FE

>>46295582
I'll be honest, that is probably a level of fire that I want for an entirely fire focused chain. I wanna Elemental battle Esdeath with fire, because I can.

>>46295582
But anon, why would I get Double Genius Firebending if I don't want to set /everything/ on fire?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXzMD065HEk

>>46295608
I'm pretty sure you can match Esdeath with only Avatar anon. She doesn't seem to be THAT impressive. Other than the timestop, of course, but that's bullshit. Who knows, maybe your fire would be so hot you couldn't be frozen in time.

>>46295626

Maybe you also got Lightningbending because you wanted to electrocute everything instead, or maybe you decided fire wasn't enough so you also took innovative to try to invent plasma bending to set everything on plasma instead which is like setting it on fire but without the oxygen need?

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>>46295626
Wow. Thanks for introducing me to this band. I didn't know they existed, but now I'm wondering what I used my ears for before now.

>>46295685
But fire essentially IS plasma and the heat it releases.

>>46295648
I want Fire anon, a ludicrous amount of it.

That and her timestop isn't going to be enough for my BURNING will.

Besides some anon probably knows a good perk for stopping time bullshit, hate that stuff, always far too dangerous to deal with so I want to just not worry about it.

Devil Survivor 1-Set after Asura's Wrath, Evangelion, and Darksiders.
0/1800
Rolled for Ikebukuro
Rolled for 19
Programmer
Free Tech Wizard
Discount Jumper is a Genius!
Break your Barricade
Magical Punishment
Bels and Whistles
Free COMP
Free Shomonkai Disguise
Discount Custom COMP Vitality

Bel on Earth+0
Morning Star+800-I claim Lucy as my Rival via Dramatic Foil from OoTS. Maybe now my Punch-Build won't become obsolete due to "becomes immune to physical attacks"
-------------------------
Devil Survivor 2-
0/1600
Rolled for Free Choice, let's go Tokyo
Rolled for 18
Drop-in
Free Don't be Rediculous
Discount Shining One
Discount Record Breaker
Fun Personified
FATE
Import Companionsx6
Free Blue Phone

A Whole New World+0
Bonus Boss Bananza+600
Main Build, not Secundo. This shit is gonna get crazy

>>46295716

True, but plasma burns in space where fire shouldn't be able to.

>>46295545
Ok, let's put it this way.

Does she "cheat" at any other point in the story?

Because if all you've got is "I must fuck this chick because if I don't me and the woman/man I love will die", then you don't have much of a case for her being a "cheating whore".

Besides Lord of Light, Asura's Wrath, and Percy Jackson (through pantheon import) what are some jumps with a Hindu/Buddhist theme or aesthetic.

>>46295782
>Punch Build
>Against Lucifer
>Who reflects physical at tacks in his final form
Uhhh. Got some bad news...

>>46295818
Journey to the West, anyone?

>>46295814
Uh. See >>46289704

The first part of it explains the major problem with her actions.

>>46295608
What >>46295648 said is pretty accurate. Esdeath's best feats (ignoring the time stupidity) are creating a huge pillar in a few seconds, and freezing a moderately sized river in the same time-frame, and recently, creating about a hundred centaur mannequins that are said to be pretty strong. Only that last is far outside of what we see very skilled Waterbenders do.

>>46295781
I can understand your passion, anon. I myself feel the same with lightning. Might I suggest spending 2000+ CP in Arrowverse on Pyrokinesis? I myself was limited by not being cabable of getting the extra 100CP to put all my CP in it, but you wouldn't have that problem.

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>>46289400
...probably not. It's a litle unclear-but the ALSO section seems to imply it's meant to guard you against mundane heat and radiation, because the stars of Fallen London are our collective waifu gigantic eldritch gods who use souls as a kind of metaphysical sponge to absorb the lifeforce of mortal beings for sustenance, and which radiate law that defines what is real and what isn't; things that aren't Real that get exposed to them tend to die. Because you've sat around near "illegal" eldritch radiations and a state of general lawlessness in London, there is an unpredictable but almost certain chance if you return to the surface the sun will tear out your soul and crumble your body. So you've a lot more to worry about than heat and radiation.

It's a little more ambiguous how this applies to vampires but at the very least if heat and radiation is all that ails you (like a Jojopire or Bladepire) instead of a supernatuarl divine curse or something , you should enjoy that protection.

>>46289846
There's Touko. The problem is, she's a strong independant magus/mentor/ex-BBEG who don't need no husbando.

>>46289940
>>46290002

>>46294054
Good luck. Since everyone's provided lots of good advice already, should probably point out-as long as you don't give him a reason to hold back less than usual if the in-game NG+ battle is any indication at worst you'll waste a few city blocks since he's ostensibly just out for a friendly brawl after all.

>>46295818
Journey to the West. Can't get more Hindu/Buddhist than a world with literal Buddha.

Also Fate/Extra technically deals with some Buddhist concepts and some characters from the mythologies do show up but...suffice to say it's really, really not.

>>46288408
Wobuffet.

>>46285358
Law4lyfe.

>>46295857
>creating a huge pillar
>freezing a moderately sized river
>creating about a hundred centaur mannequins that are said to be pretty strong
Who is this chick and what is her power supposed to be?

Speaking of more fire, I can't tell what would be more fun, Being double Genius in either The Last Airbender or Legend of Korra.

I don't actually know what happens in the LoK as after the first season I lost interest, it felt like the writers wasted lots of potential stuff, like what about Sokka, did he just not have kids as well as some of the other side characters who hooked up, we never saw anything of Ty Lee and the like, I think?

>>46296041
Esdeath is the main antagonist of Akame ga Kill. She makes ice, and is pretty strong and good with a sword.

>>46296046
To summarize: Avatars are the way they are because the first Wan bonded with Raava, the spirit of light, to fight the local Devil equivalent Vaatu, who later with Korra's uncle kills all the previous Avatars' souls before Korra kills both. Then came terrorists who broke Korra's spirit and nearly killed her, then Earth nazis and giant robots, then Korra and Asami became canon at the very end.

>>46296132
Basically it was completely retarded and half of its support only exists because of lesbian fans ranting over the hackneyed romance that came out of nowhere for no reason but to get fan brownie points.

>>46295837
Hit Nocturne first, pick up Freikugel. Guaranteed to give Lucifer a bad day.

I'd recommend pierce, but it doesn't work against Repel.

>>46296046
Ironically, you should hit up Korra first so you can get your primary Bending art in it. The guy who did LoK says Genius only applies to the element you pick in LoK, but IIRC there's no such rule in ATLA.

>>46296189
Dude, I'm not even finished with DDS part 1. Nocturne's not going to be here for a while.

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>>46296132
You're kidding me? They actually smashed them together in the end? Wow. Just wow. Glad I didn't watch all of it.

>>46296278
Yeah, it was pretty weird.

Not that their angsty love triangle was ever worth anything to begin with. I actually cared more about Bolin's relationship with whatsherface - and I don't even remember her name.

What are some perks that you can use to get absolute precision, direction and mobility in electricity?
Would training in your conduit powers allow you to do this or would they stagnate after a certain amount of years.

>>46296271
Yeah, but Freikugel is worth waiting for.

>>46296429
If you say so. It'll take a while, might even be a week.

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>>46296378
Considering how absurdly precise Misaka Mikoto and Sam were, becoming an electricity Esper in Raildex, Power Well in Worm, a god of electromagnetism in Lord of Light topped up with 2 purchases of Genius Firebending (to give your powers a spiritual dimension) should give you a good start to work with in addition to Conduit powers.

And IIRC Conduit powers are basically like a muscle sans lactic acid buildup, if you keep experimenting with 'em you can figure out some neat tricks.

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>>46296472

Yeah, Sam's Electrodirection in Lord of Light was basically dynakinesis - he could control gravity, electromagnetism, light and all that.

He needed a power amplifier to do his major feats though, like binding the entire Rakshasa race into candleflames in the Hellwell or precisely controlling electronic weapons from a distance.

>>46296472
Alright im about 5 jumps in and i think im in a highpowered setting ? Im not to well versed with Ar tonelico i tried to gleam information to see if i was strong enough to survive but i couldnt really tell.
Thanks for the information harem master.

>>46296461
A week isn't a long time for Jumps. Fuck, a lot of Jumpmakers take a month or more.

Also, if it is too long we can just pick up Ragnarok from DDS.

>>46296516
How does buying both careless and fate shift compare to the anti-fate perk from Merlin?

>>46296600
Whatever works for you, Anon.

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>>46296516
>>46296604
>As such you lack the preordained fat that all others in this world possess

Apparently Lyria controls the destiny of the world by controlling obesity rates, and being /fit/ is how you seize control of your own destiny

>>46296663
Fucking damn it, you got me hard. Well played, anon. I haven't huffed air through my nose this rapidly in a while

>>46296802
Why would that turn you on?

>>46296848
Why WOULDN'T it turn you on?

>>46296848
Damn, should have added a comma after the "me". It made me laugh, which I express by breathing through my nose more rapidly.

>>46296663
Swears profusely. any other retarded stuff?

>>46296663
>Apparently Lyria controls the density
FTFY

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>>46297052
density is density

>>46296604
The anti fate perk from merlin is passive and without other perks non optional fate unravelling. if you take fateless you have no fate so you yourself will be excluded from prophecies so if something is destined to kill all humans you are not included in that automatically. it also makes divining your future impossible as its essentially not there until you do it. Fate shift lets you pit your will against destiny and if its strong enough occasionally win. This lets you do things like dodge spears fated to always hit, stop fenrir killing odin etc. etc. as long as you are physically and magically able after the fact you changing stuff butterflies and invalidates the rest of prophecy.

TLDR with merlin perk you always invalidate fate passively. fateless+fateshift it is entirely your choice whether you let the prophecy plays out and with a little finesse to what degree.

>>46295202
For the village of Dark Cloud 2, "You may choose how your Atlamillia settlement follows you throughout your journey."
Does that mean you could put it on an island, a floating piece of rock, hidden underground or in an alternate dimension (perhaps after you created said dimension, like with D&D Genesis or Gravity Rush Genesis)?

>>46297299
So basically if I want to derail a prophecy it's just as useful, but I also get to choose to keep useful prophecies? Bitchin.

>>46297506
I believe so, yes. I think you could also have it be a Warehouse attachment.

The Legend of Mana jump says that you can plant the artifacts in alternate worlds. Does that mean if I plant the Sword of Mana in other worlds and thus summon the Mana Tree, that world will gain magic?

>>46297825
Yes.

>>46297825
Well, that's largely the point of the Mana Tree, and you don't really get anything else from buying it other than a kickass sword, so yeah, I'd say so.
Of course you'll want to fix the Mana Tree first before you do that, otherwise it's going to be shelling out only a fraction of what it could at full power.

Also gaining magic isn't the same as learning magic, so unless you teach people how to use mana they probably aren't going to do anything interesting in it during the first ten years, unless the setting has some crazy mad scientist types, and then all bets are off.

>>46297962
>>46297987
Thanks Anons. I'm not exactly familiar with the setting, so if I may ask, how does magic work in-universe? Typical RPG stuff? I know that apparently it can get to world ending spells, but what's the standard?

>>46294057
Chandelier has a pretty great mobility game in Pokken as well. Dat swing combo.

Jumpers I have a question what are regular people compared to you? Guinea pigs? Just People? Food source? Playthings?

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>>46298350
Warm-bloods. Some admirable (even desirable!), others distasteful, most vaguely trustworthy.

Unless they're rats.

>>46298350
Playthings, but ones treated responsibly. I use them for my amusement, but I stop short of anything that would genuinely degrade or endanger them.

>>46298350
Just people, for good and for ill. And that's how I like it. Any time where I stop considering them as people, or can't relate to them anymore, I take my next Jump with a no powers drawback to remind me of what it's like.

I'm not better than they are. I'm just luckier. I never, ever want to forget that.

>>46298350
>Guinea pigs? Just People? Food source? Playthings?
All of the above. Well not really food source, but most definitely a source of raw materials.

>>46298350
Friends I haven't met yet.

>>46298400
>spoilers

Get dunked on, shinglescales.

We blew up a moon. What do you have.

>>46298350
Depends on the role: If I'm the villain, they're future subjects and minions. If I'm the hero, then just people that I need to protect. Neutral? People I can screw around with and prank but not really harm for the most part.

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>>46298060
Well, I've only played the Mana games for the Super Nintendo, so there might be some variance from Legend, but yeah, it's basically typical console RPG stuff. You got your direct damage spells, your buffs, your healing, your status ailments, all those things.
They all generally fall into one of eight possible elements like fire, water, plant, darkness, that kind of thing, but you're not dragging the elemental spirits with you (who are basically the wardens in charge of those elements) so it's likely you're just working with raw mana and will have to figure that shit out on your own.

But, yeah, it's basically typical console RPG stuff. The world breaking stuff generally comes as a result of really high energies/technologies/whatever and most people aren't going to hit that level. Everyone else mostly chucks fireballs and statuses, as is typical for console RPGs.

>>46298350
did you ever play SimCity? Did you ever play the Sims immediately after? Did you ever play one of those fighter or Princess management games? Take the Sims from SimCity and the Sims and mix them together with the Princess from those games and you've got a rough idea, they are countless and sufficiently less than me in mind that they register more as numbers then as folks until you take the time to actually get to know them, then they must be brought up to our level for keeping others below you is pure hypocrisy for a jumper.

>>46298350
People who I can help reach their full potential, or enemies to either kill or otherwise remove.

>>46298460
Cool, works for me. I'd feel like a dick if I dropped a Mana Tree in Slice of Life and then before the Jump even ended some idiot blew up civilization with it. Thanks, Anon.

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>>46298350
I'm on the train with >>46298413. Even with all the crazy powers and adventures, I try to stay human under all of it.

It's so hard sometimes.

>>46298350
Any one of them could have become the Jumper. Any single one of them, in my eyes. So I treat them with the respect I would want to be given in kind. So damn right I treat them as equals.

So basically, what >>46298413 said.

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>>46298439
Space. Bubbles.

Also Lord Kroak straight-up willed himself back to life to prevent your moon-meteors from outright destroying /everything/. Thanks to him, your little "clever" plot did jack squat but pepper the Southlands a little.

If I have a Reality Marble based on elemental manipulation, can I pull out chunks of the element and control them the way Shirou does swords?

If not, what are some cool ideas for a RM? I really don't know enough about Fate stuff to be sure about it.

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Okay, so I've been a busy, so I haven't been able to add much, but I DID complete the general perk tree. If the Anon from before who thought there wasn't enough variety is still around, is this better? I'll try working on items, companions, and drawbacks tonight. Also added WIP to the file name as requested.

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>>46298350
mostly irrelevant unless they have something I want. Like Vulpes Inculas fox hat. Poor bastard died for a good cause though.

>>46298670
Is there anyone who didn't murder him for his hat? Excluding people who had a high enough Pick Pockets skill to steal it off him, of course.

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>>46298670
>putting a bullet in the slaver scum's brain

Right choice, wrong reason.

Since I haven't seen it asked here in a while, what jumps would you like to see made?

Personally I would like to see the fallowing (Heavy Nostalgia incoming)

Person of Interest
Quantum Leap
The Pretender
He man and the masters of the universe
South Park the stick of truth

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>>46298613
>Y-you’re a big one, aren’t you?

Jokes aside, what happens if you go Drop-In and take Alpha Wolf without having a demonform?

>>46298823
He-Man, definitely

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>>46298823
It was actually talked about just yesterday. Generally it's best not to mention the topic unless you're looking to make one yourself.

>>46298823

Jin-Roh

>>46298913
Wait shit, I thought he was offering to make 'em. Now I just feel stupid.

>>46298899
It'll affect the demon form you get in Part 2 which, trust me, you WILL need.

>>46298994
I...really like being several kinds of angel and god but demons are, for lack of a better word, kinda icky. Nothing personal and some of my best friends are demons, it's just something I don't identify with.

So-can the "demon form" be that of one of the Divine races or somesuch? If not, can we opt to not have one if only for hardmode purposes?

>>46299043
In SMT, all angels and gods are also demons.

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>>46298350
Just normal people. I have no beef with most people, so I see them as fellow humans. However that doesn't stop me from slicing and dicing people. However unless I'm paid to kill, I don't kill, unless you're hostile to me.

>>46299043
Not the jump maker, but I don't see why you couldn't. Hell, the Embryon's Atma Avatars are all based off of Hindu gods. But you definitely need to have one, the Black Sun will turn you to stone if you don't.

>>46298823
Maybe we could eventually get an Arena/Daggerfall TES?

I dunno, it's probably a long shot. Other Jumps I'd be looking forward to are:

>Dimension W
>Parasyte
>Chivalry of a Failed Knight
>KonoSuba
>Ulysses 31
>Canterbury Tales
>He-Man AND THE MASTERS OF THE UNIVEEERSE
>Toontown
>Runescape
>AdventureQuest
>Wizard 101
>Dungeons and Dragons the cartoon
>Inspector Gadget
>Space Battleship Yamato
>Galaxy Express 999
>Cutie Honey
>Love Live

>>46299070
>>46299080

Even YHVH? That must be awkward. I mean if I can take the form of something sufficiently Lawful it's all good in the hood but if I can't you wouldn't even need to gimme a drawback for it, I will willingly take on Hard Mode if you put a caveat in the notes that lets me do that.

>>46299043
Perhaps "Demon" is the wrong term to use here. The Atma Avatars are basically a combination of both the user's karma and the solar data of demons. For example, in the Junkyard, one bonus boss's avatar is Metatron. There's even some evidence that points to the solar data being the actual demon, such as Satan in the second game, who seems to think he's in SMT II. So yeah, you can be any race that's not restricted to bosses only. So no Star, Herald, or stuff like that.
>>46299119
YHVH may or may not be a demon. If the theory that he is Errai the Administrator from Devil Survivor 2 is correct, then he is a Star, who predates demons.

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>>46299119
You can be something lawful. You'll look a bit weird, all of the really good Atma Avatars look inhuman. But not necessarily like a monster. Some of them look quite graceful and heroic, even. Ardha is basically manta ray Kamen Rider.

>>46299119
Out of curiosity, as someone who's never played SMT, is YHVH supposed to be pronounced "Yahweh", or is it just not meant to be spoken?

>>46299204
Both: Yahweh is the actual name, but the Hebrews gave him the tetragrammaton YHVH because you weren't supposed to say his name.

>>46299183
HA, nice-that looks like an actual Kamen Rider character and I don't even know Kamen Rider that well.

>>46299169
Interesting. That sounds great, thanks.

Also are you thinking of doing an 800 CP ultra-drawback/mini-scenario like for DS1 & 2? Those're always fun to read even if they're not taken.

>>46299204
I...think it's never meant to be spoken considering in SMT 4 Final IIRC when people try to speak his name in-game it just comes out as garbled noise.

>>46299267
Glad to help. As for the ultra-drawback/mini-scenario...Who were the ultimate bosses for both games? The latter will be a bit more complicated, as it will also involve the story more, but the former...

>>46299204
It's actually an acronym. It comes from "ehyeh asher ehyeh", "I am that I am", in Hebrew acronymized to Yod-Heh-Vau-Heh. In Roman characters, that's YHVH.

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>>46298572
Still gettin rekt by my DOOMWHEELS.

>>46289400
>Fallen London questions.
Well, there's a reason you can't take Ashes to Ashes with any of the daylight perks. Outside the jump with FoJ you could walk on the surface of some of the cooler stars, but in Fallen London you just won't immediately die in sunlight.

>>46298350
Fellow actors in this twisted play we call life. Some need to play their part better than others, and others improvise.

Is hyper cognition psion d&d basically a shot of tattletales power?

>>46298725
I murdered him for brownie points with Boone, because it got me the roving bands of items+xp that are assassins, and y'know seemed like the thing to do given he'll do worse to less deserving folks. His hat is eh.

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>>46298823
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBptxuajqZg
Vae Victis!

>>46299488
...I was going to call you out for that but then I realised I've probably murdered a bunch of people mostly to make my companions happy too.

>>46299204
It's not meant to be spoken. In classical Hebrew tradition God has many names, but the tetragrammaton YHVH is explicitly meant to be unpronounceable. It's God's name as the embodiment of his oneness with the universe, not to be used except in his most sacred prayers. If you were actually talking about God or mentioning him in prayers you'd use either Adonai ("My Lord"), Elohim ("divine") or the simple Hashem ("the name"). Or, if you were a Kabbalist, you'd call him by the Shem Ha Maphoresch, but that name is 72 syllables long so I'm not typing it out.

>>46298581
That sounds feasible, go for it. Just try not to go too crazy or you might start turning into the element yourself.

>>46297018
Actually-nothing I can spot, it's all good. Would you say it's ready for builds?

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>>46298613
>Mind Over Body + Devil Warrior + Alpha Wolf
>mfw
In truth I'm probably not gonna eat a single person, and just stick to the fridges full of meat thanks to that Carnivores perk. But damn the looks on their faces.

>>46297018
Wait-sorry, just missed the double "you your" in Mana Mastery

>>46298725
I used Terrifying Presence to make him piss himself, and blew his head off with a hunting rifle for Against All Tyrants.

I then put his hat in one of my storage units and forgot about it forever.

>>46299815
Don't do it, density is destiny remember? You'll be playing right into Lyria's hands.

>>46299815
You have to. Regular food doesn't fill up an Atma Avatar, the jump doesn't really explain that well. It's either eat other demons, or starve. I suppose you could just kill one and then use that Carnivores perk to get an infinite supply of guilt-free meat, though.

>>46299815
That works. Just remember that even with Mind Over Body resisting both Devil Warrior and Alpha Wolf won't be easy. With great power comes great insanity, after all.

>>46299881
Yeah, cannibalism is the name of the game here.

>>46299881
I think that's what she meant? Besides, I'm pretty sure I mentioned that in the Demon Warrior perk tree at least.

>>46298725
I never met him.

I was at open warfare with Caesar's Legion, though, so it's possible he might have died alongside the thousands and thousands of others that died to the thousands and thousands of robots.
Maybe.

I wasn't really paying attention, to be honest.