Pathfinder General - /pfg/

>he plays a martial
l-lol?

>>46213270
>You'll always have people trying to hire/blackmail you to do stuff or enemies you've made during adventuring coming for revenge or shit like that.

Not really? You kill the enemies you've made and tell the people trying to hire you to fuck off.

How much of a halflings body can be filled with a dick before they die of internal bleeding?

I'm homebrewing a level-1-playable vampire template, taking the advice of an anon who said to "dragonborn that shit" (ie have it replace most racial traits besides attributes, speed and size, and try to balance gains with losses).

>>46213311

Anal? 15 inches.

Vaginal? 10 inches.

>>46213311
Well, they're probably biologically adapted to living with larger races.

>>46213321
Did you look at the Lords of Night book from DSP? That's pretty much explicitly what it was designed to do.

>>46213321
*AND I HAVE A QUESTION:

Is flight as a Small-sized bat for minute/level crazy broken at 1st level?

>>46213355
No

>>46213347
Isnt 15 inches like...Nearing half their height in dick?

I thought >>46213355 was quoting >>46213311 for a minute and was really bewildered.

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Hey anons, I may be building a Summoner soon. What evolutions would be good to pic if I wanted my Eidolon to look like Cteno ?
What would be the best way to hide this inspiration in case any of my party members might know about her?

>>46213356
Werebat-kin skinwalkers can turn into a bat for as long as they like for one feat at 1st, so...

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So what do your characters drink, /pfg/?

Has your Alchemist invented soda?

>>46213381

Well yeah, that's why it's "how much dick can they take before gruesome demise", not "how much dick can they take comfortably."

I'm going to be running a campaign for normies who probably won't pay that much attention to the rules but are enthusiastic about playing, and in addition I haven't ever used the Pathfinder system before.

Any advice for me? How much information do I need to read up on to run a "good" game, by whatever your definition of good is?

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What is the closest to the hunting horn that can be had in 3.5/pf?

>>46213395

Now, on the one hand, I'm not sure who that is. On the other, I'm mildly afraid to ask.

>>46213395
>Cteno

tentacles are a must.

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>>46213419

>Kongou-Class

Mah nigga! My characters prefer to drink spiced wine, when available.

>>46213433
Then lets expand on the question
How much dick can a halfling comfortably take without getting magic involved but assuming shes a massive slut

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>>46213239
>Make sure to spank her if she uses her magic in ways you disapprove of

Trust me bro, I know everything I need to know about what she's into and what she isn't, and that's one of the big ones.

>>46213470
An OC of Slugbox's basically an ooze waifu with tentacles.

>>46213460
There's an option in WMH's weapon creation rules for a weapon that is also a tool. Just use that.

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I want to build a rival party that will plague my players throughout their campaign.
The players all some version of good with a party make up of:
Dhampir Cleric (Basically blade)
Undine Druid
Half-Wizard
I'm thinking the rival party will have a Drow necromancer, a cool vampire character that can challenge a cleric, and maybe a witch to be the rival of the druid.
Thoughts?

>>46213525
What's the setting?

>>46213470
>>>/aco/455094

So are they actually together or are you guys just creeps

>>46213573
Standard golarion, though the campaign is in Lastwall. It focuses on the party dealing with the Whispering Way as they attempt to revive Tar-Baphon.

>>46213498
That seems like it's more a matter of girth, at that point.

Massive slut halfling can probably take 7in deep x 2in wide vaginally, maybe 10in deep x 1.5in anally.
Comfortably, that is.

>>46213498

More than you'd think, because any Halfling involved in "big folk" society will inevitably have "the talk" about having sex with a human, and that will end up being a discussion on technique and position.

A Halfling slut that knows her way around a dick would probably be able to handle 6 inches.

Which isn't a lot, and it isn't meant to be, Halfling/Human sex should be, by it's nature, awkward and unfulfilling.

>>46213524
Thanks. Time to start digging.

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>>46213614
>So are they actually together or are you guys just creeps

Who are you talking about?

>>46213525
Shit...I meant Half-ELF wizard

>>46213666
>>46213661
Thanks, that's the proper thought out answers i was hoping for.

What happens when you bull-rush someone into another? Am I trampling over some shitty feat's territory if I tell my Barbarian player that she does 1d6+Str to both targets when this happens?

If magic gets involved how much dick could a weefolk take? Is there a limit? Or do you just slap a portable hole on that shit and go to town

>>46213419
Ale, Mead, Wine, Whiskey, Beer, Cider, Vodka, Sake (regardless if its !notchina or !notjapan its always Sake), Brandy, Gin, Mezcal, Rum, and straight Liquor.

And water. Sometimes.

>>46213833

An Enlarged Halfling is functionally identically to a human, that's kinda their thing.

>>46213816
"You cannot bull rush a creature into a square that is occupied by a solid object or obstacle. If there is another creature in the way of your bull rush, you must immediately make a combat maneuver check to bull rush that creature. You take a –4 penalty on this check for each creature being pushed beyond the first. If you are successful, you can continue to push the creatures a distance equal to the lesser result."

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/combat#TOC-Bull-Rush

Read the fucking rules if you're running a game, god damn it.

>>46213816
>If there is another creature in the way of your bull rush, you must immediately make a combat maneuver check to bull rush that creature. You take a –4 penalty on this check for each creature being pushed beyond the first. If you are successful, you can continue to push the creatures a distance equal to the lesser result. For example, if a fighter bull rushes a goblin for a total of 15 feet, but there is another goblin 5 feet behind the first, he must make another combat maneuver check against the second goblin after having pushed the first 5 feet. If his check reveals that he can push the second goblin a total of 20 feet, he can continue to push both goblins another 10 feet (since the first goblin will have moved a total of 15 feet).

Are there any rogue archetypes that mix well with Eldritch Scoundrel?

>>46213638
Have one be a halfling sniper that tries to pick them off at a distance, and if they get close have a human sorcerer who invests in shadow abilities make it so they can't see shit while a hungry ghost half-orc destroys them in the darkness.

>>46213460
Totem Spear
>1d10
>Bludgeoning or Piercing
>Can be used for Perform (Wind Instrument)

>>46213880
But thats not much more dick they can take, Only one sizeclass more dick.

>>46213941

You asked for magically-enhanced Halfling sex and I gave you magically-enhanced Halfling sex.

The only way to make them accommodate more dick while both parties enjoy it is make them bigger.

>>46213922
Thanks.

>>46213511
This is either going to be a good game or the best game even if the game itself falls through

>>46213886
>implying you should stick to the RAW for how awful combat maneuvers should be
It's such a dogshit ability, it really doesn't fucking matter if he buffs it a bit.

>>46213902
This...is an interesting idea. I kinda like the idea of an evil little shit of a halfling. The idea behind having one of them be a vampire was to have a full blood brother to the dhampir, they share a father but the dhampir hates undead.
I'm also wondering about the makeup class wise for the rivals, since all of the players are tier 1 casters.

>>46213816
I would make the damage nonlethal, but otherwise I like it.

How do we buff the other shitty combat maneuvers to encourage more action-movie-sequence gameplay?

>>46213690
Creeps

>>46214026
Give initiative to the NPCs. A critical hit from a sniper should make things VERY even.

>>46214062
Make a PoW stance that creates waist-high walls everywhere to use for cover.

>>46214062

Porting over Dungeon Crasher from 3.5 would be a start, but CMB is a pretty lousy system since it seems custom-designed to almost always be worse than just fucking hitting the guy.

>>46214008
>he asks about how bull rush interacts with running into other creatures
>he gets an answer about how bull rush interacts with other creatures

It's not my purview whether or not he follows the RAW, but spoonfeeding the basic rules is tantamount to paying lip service to Asmodeus. All hail.

Wolf vs. fox vs. cat vs. etc: What's your favorite waifu material animal?

>>46214071
I've actually already seen evidence that this is a good tactic.
Last session they got ambushed by assassins, 2 of whom they spotted and the third they failed to.
Assassins rolled well with the rooftop assassin landing a crossbow bolt that knocked out the cleric.
Made the party need to think on their feet without their healer. Thanks for the ideas.

>>46214151
Human, you sick fuck.

>>46213833
http://i.imgur.com/Oz4nEjI.jpg

>>46213419

A mug of cider hits the spot now and again.

>>46213816
I mean that's what the Siegebreaker Fighter gets at level 1, you could just have him splash a level. It's not like he's spell progression as a Barbarian.

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>>46213614

Creeps

I'm still bad at comics. need to git gud

>>46214206
InCase is good, but does InCase even count? How reliable is that for size?

>>46214237
Looks fine to me, Dorian

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>>46214237

>>46214282
That guys dick has to be microscopic either way, barely even causing a bulge.

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>Want to try path of war
>Dm says 'No its too overpowered'

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So trying to get Bloodforge around for updates/printing killed the bossman's InDesign for like three days.

We, ah, we are working on that again though.

>>46214237
How do I pay you to make two people kiss

>>46214342
Might just have a short one that's more girth than length...

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>>46214237

>>46214383
Probably once I figure out how to make two people kiss

>>46214411
Practice on Qrest

>>46214071
Another question if you're still around, what would be a good bloodline to have both shadow abilities and some undead control?

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>>46214433
>spoiler

>>46214509
Core lists Undead as a bloodline. Advanced Core lists Shadow as a bloodline. Pick one and go from there.

>>46214354
That girl looks really cute! Who's the artist? If I have some extra money, how much to commission them?

>>46214346
And that's why you don't play with bad DMs, anon.

>>46214161
What a boring pleb you are.

>>46214411
Suggestion: "Kiss that person"

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>>46214612
Levi Hinton. He did the original art for Bloodforge. He also did the updated art for Bloodforge. That's the Merg update.

He, ah. He visibly improved between then and now. You can see his modern work on his Facebook. Pic related is also one of his updates from Bloodforge.

>>46214590
Looks like there is an archetype that allows me to use both. Appreciate the help

>>46214753
Warning! Crossblooded is generally considered a trap option!

You can still make an effective crossblooded character and have fun and everything, but it reduces your spellcasting ability, which is your entire deal as a sorcerer.

>>46214788
>Crossblooded is generally considered a trap option!
tbqh familia it's breddy gud

it gibes u moar option 4 bludlien option n 4 evoke its v good??

>>46214788
Well its not the biggest deal. Doesnt lock you out of 9ths at least.

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How viable is going TWF as a Ninja?

>>46214411

Intimidate.

You'd be surprised how fast a Barbarian can defuse a "will they or won't they" plot with a good check.

>>46214411
Unnatural Lust.

>>46214788
That's good to know, I guess I didn't think the minus 1 at each level would be too big of a hit to an NPC's strength. Considering that undead spells are available throughout the lists I might just give them the shadow bloodline.

>>46214062
Grapple: If your CMB beats the opponent's CMD, you both become grappled.

While grappled, you can roll your CMB against CMD again as a standard action. If you fail nothing happens (they can try to break free on their own turn with their CMB versus your CMD, or use these options against you), and if you pass, you can use your move action to move both of you at half your speed or use it to make both of you prone, and also do any one of these:
>Beat CMD: Bash your foe for 1d6 + Str or your light weapon's damage, whichever is higher. If they are prone you bash for 1d8 + 1.5 x Str.
>Beat CMD+2: Silence your foe, rendering him unable to speak or make noise. This also begins to suffocate him for 1d6 + Str nonlethal.
>Beat CMD+4: Throw your foe, rendering him prone in a square up to 10ft away, or 5ft if he is 1 size category higher than you. If he hits an object he takes 1d6 + Str; if he hits a person along the way they both take 1d6 + Str nonlethal and both fall prone in that space. You can't throw if you are prone or if the foe is more than 1 size category above you. If they are prone you can throw them twice as far and they can collide with more than one creature on their way.
>Beat CMD+6: Bind your opponent's limbs until the end of your next turn after this. If they are prone you can tie them up with rope.
>Beat CMD+8: Hit the foe against other creatures or objects, dealing 1d6 + 1.5 x Str in damage to both targets after a successful attack roll and enabling you to roll to begin a grapple on the other one. You can release current target as a free action if you want, or you can try to grapple both simultaneously - take a -10 to your grapple checks while doing this, and on your turns you can use a standard action grapple check against both CMDs at once to determine what you can do to each foe (you can take different actions with them if you like). If either foe is prone, the other becomes prone too.

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>>46214916
Not very good, since they only have 3/4 BAB growth. They also need a lot of feats to do well at it.

Play a Slayer instead.

Also, why do you want to be a Ninja?

>>46214916
You get 3/4 BAB and no way to compensate. Taking extra penalties to hit to fight is roughly as viable as shoving your own knives up your asshole and only slightly less agonizing.

>>46214237

Man, their first night together isn't going to end well for either of them if that's how they handle romance.

>>46215003
Katana proficiency. Nah but for real, I don't really want to, was just wondering. I liked the idea in my head of using a katana in the main hand and a wakizashi or nunchaku in the other but. Yeah why bother.

>>46213511

Keep us updated, this sounds like it could be a good one.

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>>46215111
Have you seen the Stalker Bushi from PoW:E?

Play it and invest in Thrashing Dragon maneuvers.

What is the name of the crustiest inn in the city slums?

Why do prestige classes look fun as fuck on paper but most of the time turn out to be horrible?

>>46215514
The Violence Hole

What's your favorite tier 3 class, or tier 3 class+archetype, that's not on the list on http://pathminder.github.io/classes/ yet?

>>46215541
Mystic (Knight-Chandler)?

I'm biased. And drunk.

>>46215516

Pathfinder's not very good at mutliclassing and overreacted in a big way to how ubiquitous prestige classing was in 3.5.

>>46215052
Their first night kind of hits a brick wall, yeah. It's a surreal cocktail of awkward feelings ranging from "You're my best friend", "I love you", and "oh god wat", in addition to the physical worries: Ori's being of disgusting her with his mutations (caused by the Mourning), and Lilly's prominent concern of breaking him in half. Which she does, but not until the second time.
>20 Str
Nothing physical really happens until they finally got their emotions and thoughts in order after one or two weeks.

>>46215541
Aegis

>>46215596
>I'm biased.
We knew that already.
>And drunk.
Knew that too.

>>46215635
Aegis is kind of awkward, though, since to reliably fit Tier 3 you have to assume either Harness Power Stone or Initiator's Soul as a given.

>>46215671
I would probably skip Aegis, since the point of the repository is simplicity, and the Aegis is.. anything but.

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>>46215623

>>46215596
>Knight Chandler
Have you gotten to play one? I don't remember if you were forever GM or not.

>>46214411
Matchmaker spell in ultimate intrigue.
If both fail their saves, fall in love (possibly platonic based on race etc) for 1 hour/level.

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>>46215750

Please tell me that's on the cleric/paladin/inquisitor spell list.

>>46215736
I haven't been able to /play/ in a campaign, except for abortive attempts at solo games run by my now-ex wife, in more than six years.

>>46215777
Don't have the book so I can only say from memory when I was looking at a friends, but I recall Bard/Wiz/Sorc/Mesmer/Shaman I think.

>>46215782
I feel for you.

>>46215782
I'd invite you to ours if we didnt already have six people. And I recall time was mostly your issue regardless. Sucks.

> "Surrender and serve me in life, or die and slave for me in death."

What would be the best build to make an evil overlord that can raise an army of undeads?

>>46215782
>Solo game's with S.O that didn't go amazingly.
>5-6 years ago.
>Flashbacks to Japanese OC with waterbending

I feel ya.

Hope you can play in a game sometime, I'm in a group that allows me to run a DMPC since two characters makes encounter balancing hard.

>>46215901
Necromancer.

>>46215901

I think there's a cleric archetype specifically about doing that stuff.

>>46215596
Here you go.

http://pathminder.github.io/classes/mystic-knight-chandler/

>>46215901
Spheres of Power with the Death sphere? Unlike other options, you can be raising skellies from level 1. And at level 20, you can have 100hd of undead if you sink three talents into it.

Question about the mystic!

Normally you have to be able to cast the spell to create a spell trigger or spell completion item, can that be ignored with the mystic's Mystic Artifice ability?

I imagine the relevant text is
>When attempting to create a magical item for which she does not possess a prerequisite spell, the mystic can attempt to replicate the spell through her innate power with a Spellcraft check

I'm assuming that means they can, but I wanted to doublecheck.

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>>46215972
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!

>>46216021
You ARE drunk, ain't'cha?

>>46216054
...Yes. Yes I am. This moonshine had some objects floating in it that were, at one point in their existence, strawberries. When I ate six of them, they were no longer strawberries in any meaningful sense of the word.

>>46216014
It's a separate check to replicate the spell, instead of adding 5 to the item DC for not knowing the spell.

>>46215990
What sourcebook is SoP from? My guess is 3pp, but which one?

>>46216100
...Spheres of Power is from, uh, Spheres of Power. By Drop Dead Press.

>>46216100
um, Spheres of Power is from the book Spheres of Power. Yes its 3pp.

>>46216100
Yeah. Spheres is 3pp, in its own book. It... might be in the Trove? If not, ill post it when I get home.

>>46216100
Spheres of Power

>>46216098
Yeah, but for spell trigger and spell completion items you can't raise the DC to not have to cast the spell. I was wondering if the mystic artifice ability let you ignore it by making the mystic artifice check.

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>>46213525
Nah. That's just typical evil enemies. They'll get killed unless you handwave the fuck out of things, which is wrong and antifun.

Instead, what plagues them should be.....

fabulous.

Rather than direct opposition, they hound the party's achievements, always one-upping them in-town. No, this party isn't better or stronger, but while you're lugging back that dragon corpse, they've already told the whole story to *anyone* that may listen, extolling the party but also propping up their own contributions.

They will obtain glory on the PCs coattails and enjoy the loftiest of 2nd places, no matter how much shit their spreading your tales far and wide may cause to flow back onto you.

Plus richard simmons himself would look at these guys and think "holy crap that's some flaming faggotry"

>>46216145
If you fail the check to replicate the spell, and you flat out can't create the item without being able to cast the spell, then the item crafting fails. Do not pass Go, do not collect 200 GP.

>>46215541
>No Aegis
Fail

I'll admit to Warsoul being a close second, but that's because I like using the tech weapons, and WGA+DWS = the only viable beam cannon users in the setting.

>>46216291
See
>>46215671
>>46215685

>>46216248
So yes, you can make spell trigger and spell completion items with mystic artifice? Thanks.

>>46216304
>>46215685
>>46215671
See
>>46216291

>>46215623
Fun fact about Ori's mutations: Orichalcus was originally born with no magical aptitude; however, the two year exposure from the Mourning's magical fallout caused something within him to manifest. Because this wasn't natural to him, the first few times his body produced Animus it physically tore through his skin, leaving behind the "Animus vents" that mark his face and body. His left eye is the only other thing that has mutated from the Mourning, and though it had developed a second iris and the white of his eye turned black, it hasn't displayed any actual benefit or hindrance. His eye simply acts as physical proof that he bore witness to the events of the Mourning despite not remember what had happened.

>>46216363
See
>>46215671
>>46215685

>>46216328
I think you still need the creation feats, but other than that sure.

>>46216482
Alrighty, thank you!

>>46216386

Huh. Duly noted.

New to Pathfinder, >>46215603 has me worried about multi-classing. What's a good way to use both martial weapons and cast magic? Or should I just roll with whatever looks good?

>>46216482
But what are the best spells to make wands and scrolls of?

>>46216240
B-but they're my friends anon, I don't want them to fucking hate me :(

>>46216616
magus

>>46216616
>What's a good way to use both martial weapons and cast magic?

Magus class, bard class, etc.

>>46216616
Magus is your classic Sword Mage, I'd take a look at that.

>>46216616
To do both? You have a couple options:
>Magus
>Bard
>Oracle, Battle Mystery
>Alchemist, kind of

>>46216616

There is the magus class, which is a sort of hybrid of the fighter and the wizard who can cast spells through their sword.

Bloodrager is a barbarian with some sorcerer magic, too.

>>46216386
Who are Ori and Lilly?

Please excuse my plebbiness

>>46213419
My Hongalian battle oracle likes fermented horse milk.

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>>46216616
Magus
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/magus

Skald
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/hybrid-classes/skald

I haven't seen anyone who has used the Mage Hunter prestige class
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/prestige-classes/mage-hunter

>>46216616
Clerics can definitely do the job. Depending on your deity's favored weapon?

so took leadership. dm is letting us stat our followers. 15 pb. currently have
75 7 4 2 2 1
as far as follower levels go. any great builds that go between 1st and 6th level. already got a 5th level crafter wizard.

>>46216626
Wands of infernal healing are pretty much the most efficient healing you can get.

>>46213419
My American sent to Britannia is trying to make due with what he has, to sate his caffeine addiction he's taken to Hispanian Cafe

>>46216751
Instructor wizards, for followers with cohorts.

>>46216760
Or, you know, if you're a Mystic you just take the fast healing Flux stance at level 5.

I should have specified 'what are the best wands and scrolls for a mystic to make with mystic artifice'?

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First time DMing - how do I let my fighter and cavalier keep up with all the cool shit the casters are doing? I don't like them feeling left out.

They're all lvl 6ish right now.

>>46216775
whats an instructor wizard?

Why are clerics proficient with their deity's favored weapon but not a paladin?

>>46216791
How smart are your casters? if not very you should be somewhat fine. I believe golems are immune to magic so that might be an option.

>>46216791
Use Path of War instead of Paizo's martial classes. Warlord is basically a more exciting and powerful Fighter, and Warder with the Hussar archetype can do the Cavalier role better than a Cavalier does.

>>46216795
It's a wizard archetype that grants an apprentice wizard that eventually scales up to be a Leadership cohort.

>>46216811
Because...
>Paladins are proficient with all simple and martial weapons, with all types of armor (heavy, medium, and light), and with shields (except tower shields).

>>46216791
The trick when players are using those bunch of classes is a mixture of things; give them some awesome equipment ahead of the WBL curve and they should feel awesome, and every once in a while throw out enemies and the like that the wizard/cleric/whatever can't deal super effectively with. As >>46216818 said, golems are a prime example of a creature you can use to give the warrior-types some time to shine.

That said, if your casters are reasonable folks, make sure they're aware of the paradigm; you're trying to keep the meleers feeling relevant, so get the casters in on that. Make them play with the team by providing buffs and crowd control to set up kills.

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>>46216791
Let them convert their characters to Path of War.

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war

So I had a minor question come up during a recent game, as regarded terminology, and I can't find an answer real quick via googling and figure I'd ask you, /pfg/

What do you call a person who makes crossbows? Like; as a bowyer is to bows, a _____ is to crossbows.

>>46216790
Mystics aren't Vitalists, they can't share their fast healing. The rest of the party needs heals too.

>>46216829
ok got any real ideas cause he's not gonna let us have followers with cohorts.

>>46216860
A swordsmith is to swords, as a __________ is to greatswords.

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>>46216860
Artillator

>http://www.answers.com/Q/What_do_you_call_someone_who_makes_crossbows

>>46216835
Do any deities have an exotic weapon as their favored weapon? If so, clerics get free access to them and paladins do not. Correct?

>>46216751
For the 1st- and 2nd-level characters, get a bunch of martial types kitted out with longbows. If possible have them be PoW Warlords with the archery discipline.

Also see about getting some siege weapons and artillery with 1st-level crews manning them.

>>46216913
Looked up and the only Golarian Deity that ha an exotic weapon is Zon-Kuthon with the Spiked Chain and he's neutral evil. Also I don't believe Paladins are powered by religion, just the resolve of good and law.

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>end of an encounter
>wizard is boasting about how he alone purged the bandit cave (which was true, because of AoE)
>guy playing a fighter asks me if he can challenge wizard
>say sure, why not?
>fighter gets a surprise attack in
>instead of swinging his sword kicks the wizard in the nuts
>critical hit, non-lethal damage
>wizard rendered unconscious and became sterile while still a virgin
>party's face when
Truly there is some justice for martials outside of PoW.

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/pfg/ what do you think of my homebrew ranger archetype?

>>46214857
I'm playing a Crossblooded Draconic/Orc Words of Power Sorcerer (with the half-orc favored class bonus and an Evoker Wizard VMC to boot). I only need to know one spell of every other spell level to do what I want to do, so it's a perfect fit.

I mean, I'm no God Wizard, but it's been fun as hell burning everything in sight for 10d6+30.

>>46217056
I guess that makes sense.

>>46217063
So what will you do when the wizard 'accidentally' kills the fighter with an AoE spell?

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>>46216691
Plebbiness forgiven, anon. Lillianna was my Karrnathi Warlord from one of the Eberron campaigns I was in called "The King of Dust". Orichalcus was her Cyren cohort. I used to give snippets of the sessions every week or so as things went along, but sadly the campaign was cancelled a couple weeks back due to the GM needing to reschedule and one or two other players dropping out for similar reasons.

>>46216791
Hm. Two 'give them some cool stuff and fights they're good for' and two 'Moar PoW!!'

Better than I'd expect from you pfg.

>>46217101
Getting around reduced spells by... not using 'spells'. Brilliant.

>>46217250
Funny enough I'm one of the people who suggested the former, but I actually like PoW, but if it's the guy's first time DMing he should probably stay within the 1st party for a little bit at least in my opinion.

>>46217322
Why stick with 1st party material when the problem is with 1st party material?

How do I eldritch scion magus?

I'm joining a group that plays in a gothic horror style setting. I would like to create a character that's like the Leper or the Abomination of Darkest Dungeon. Any tips?

>>46217352
>Why stick with 1st party material when the problem is with 1st party material?
Confirmed for never having DMed. Don't talk about what you don't understand, you worthless cunt.

>>46217352
Cause information overload is a thing for some people, best dip a toe into the devil's water instead of jumping in. also if the players are new and lack system mastery the caster issue isn't going to be as big a deal.

>>46217274
I did it with a normal sorcerer the first time, and it worked just as well. I just didn't have as many extra spells known to spend on things like mist and fog ("smoke"), fear effects, or flight stuff. I still had all the fire spells I really needed, though, which is the important part.

>>46217274
>>46217402
By "normal", I meant non-WoP, by the way. He was still a Crossblooded... though VMC wasn't around at the time, so he was a few points shy of +30 damage as well.

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>>46217381

>>46217371
When you say gothic horror do you mean French catacombs and cabals or Nazi occult worship featuring HP Lovecraft?

>>46217400
>the caster issue isn't going to be as big a deal

They're only 6th level and the DM is already noticing it. They're in for a bad time.

>>46217381
>DM that thinks there is nothing worthwhile to learn from other DMs with different opinions, and if someone has a different opinion than them they can't possibly be a good DM

Now THAT'S how you identify a bad DM.

>>46217463
He may not be running long enough encounters/whatever, leading to casters bukkakeing everywhere every time.

What amenities would your character pay extra for at an inn?

>A Goddamn hot bath.

>>46217355

Start at level 8

>>46217525
>a bed with a cute kitsune

>>46217525
A pillow not packed with straw and a bed that has cushions on top of the wood / concrete frame.

>>46217539
>kitsune
Fuck off weeb.

>>46217525
Warm bath with scented oils/soap/etc
Soft bed instead of scratchy wool shit
Fireplace during the winter or some contraption with a imprisoned ice elemental to keep the room cool in the summer
Supply of booze in the room
Food in the room
Separate beds
Cute maid to clean the room
Breakfast in bed

>>46217525

Gentle warm foot massage by a cute trap

>>46217548
>being antiweeb on pfg

what a baka

>>46217548
>a bed with a cute halfling

>>46217563
>>46217559
>>46217525
>>46217549
combine these

Anybody have any experience with combining E/P6 with Mythic Adventures? I wanna try using Mythic Ranks as advancement beyond level 6 (probably even replacing the bonus feats, though I may throw a bonus non-mythic feat in at every Mythic Rank that doesn't grant a mythic feat). I know Mythic Adventures is a little wonky, but I think it could be an interesting experiment.

Anybody try this before, and have some stories or insight?

What are the dankest Pathfinder memes? I want to be able to blend in when I go to my first session on campus.

>>46217603
Don't go in spouting memes your first time at the table unless you want to be known for that.

What are your characters like /pfg/? Not like their class but what kind of personality do they have? What are their motivations? What do they look for in a partner? Do they like swords?

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>>46217603
Paladins of Asmodeus
Aroden was an Annunaki

>>46217664
Dont you just have to share the alignment with your god? or is the antipaladin/paladin in pathfinder

>>46217601

Keep in mind the expected power level of each Mythic Rank is roughly

MR 1 - levels 1-2
MR 2 - levels 3-4
MR 3 - levels 5-6
MR 4 - levels 7-8
MR 5 - levels 9-10
MR 6 - levels 11-12
MR 7 - levels 13-14
MR 8 - levels 15-16
MR 9 - levels 17-18
MR 10 - levels 19-20

Anything MR4+ gives 4th level spells and other things not expected in E6

>>46217685
Yeah, I'm definitely planning to go over each of the Path Abilities to look for anything super-game-breaking, but I figure most things should be okay. I don't mind there being some spells above 3rd level, as long as they're not the ones that rewrite the setting and whatnot. Mostly, I'll just make it clear to the players that their choices need to be discussed beforehand, and that certain types of spells (teleportation, for example) are going to be unavailable, even if they could be gained through mythic ranks.

(It's a no-magic-item world, using Automatic Bonus Progression, so Legendary Items will definitely be a no-go. The mythic immortality stuff will require a mythic character of equal rank to kill you, rather than an artifact.)

Im going to bed PFG so i leave you with a challenge:
Spend 10000 gold in the most fun way possible
bonus points if it creates a unique RP/adventure in the process

>>46217452
From what I saw, there is both. The party is in Fantasy-France, but also have a base in Fantasy-Nassau and fights aganist a party of Nazi from Fantasy Germany.

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>>46217789

>Fantasy-Nassau

>>46217764
Open and run an expensive brothel staffed entirely by exotic beings.

>>46217858
Are you talking about MEGABROTHEL?

>>46217870
But bardadins can't be in a mega brothel...

>>46217900
MEGABROTHEL™ comes equipped with several temples to major gods for all your praying and blessing and disease removal needs while the bard fucks away all your hardearned gold!

>>46217764
I'd probably run a nice hotel with a sauna and bath house, a restaurant and private rooms, all settled in a crossroads town.

>>46217821
From what I understand, it's a little island formally governed by a noble, but the guy botched a immortality ritual and now is like a living statue, inable to move or speakHis second in command took control but was murdered by some pirate captains. Then they created ther cove in the fishing village and built a slum of old shipwrecks and prison.hulks. Because the noble is still "alive" nobody can try to conquer the island for some legal bullshit.

Question.

When an eidolon dies, it goes back to its home plane and needs to be summoned back the next day with half health.

What about the progenitor's construct? It says "it's always active and doesn't need to be summoned." Does that mean I cannot dismiss it to a home plane or summon it back after it dies? Surely it's not an immortal planeless being...

>>46218062
It's a Goddamn construct. There's no summoning or other plane involved. If it dies it's dead.

>>46218062
That's a third-party product most of us have probably never heard of. Just for you, I downloaded the book and read over it. There is literally no answer to your question. They literally just never got around to detailing what happens when your construct dies.

In the absence of any actual rules, I would use
>This ability functions like the summoner's eidolon ability
and just say that if it dies, you can build a new one next morning. Because the alternative is that when it dies, it's dead forever.

It doesn't have a home plane, since it's a construct you built on THIS plane.

>>46214699
>He, ah. He visibly improved between then and now.

>right hand
>no neck

>arrow not in the middle of bowstring
>armored bow pretending to be composite bow

I also can't tell if it's male or female, but I guess it's a good thing these days? Or it's just an elf?

>>46218178
Are you at all shocked that DSP is pushing androgynes?

>>46218214
It's a elf, anon.

>>46218178
I gotta give him credit for at least drawing hands, a lot of newer artists have a hateboner or fearboner for hands and feet.

>>46218273
>implying Bloodforge, Gareth's handbook of special snowflake-kin, contains just "an elf"

>>46218358
Don't put that evil on him. That's Owen Stephens' book of special snowflake-kin. Gareth was just saddled with updating it to DSP, since DSP doesn't do anything creative.

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>>46217678
Depends on the campaign.

According to the rulebook, you don't have to have a patron diety.

If the Paladin does have a patron, it sort of falls under the "Associate" rule:

>http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/coreRulebook/classes/paladin.html#paladin
>Associates: While she may adventure with good or neutral allies, a paladin avoids working with evil characters or with anyone who consistently offends her moral code.

>>46218668
"Associates" isn't a rule, or part of the paladin code; it's its own section.

>>46218668
There's no written penalty for it so it's just a teeny bit of fluff that can be ignored.

So, this is a thing:
http://drivethrurpg.com/product/178419/Diviners-Handbook

Apparently, one of the guys from /pfg/ worked on this.

>>46219185
Yeah, I think I recall this.

>>46217678
There is a trait that let you treat Asmodeus as Lawful Neutral. Which is enough for you to make a Lawful Good worshiper of him.

So we stared a core rulebook only game months ago and theres only 3 original characters left (the other 4 died and 3 rerolled as level down expanded characters)

My OG is a level 1 fighter level 6 sorcerer with abyssal bloodline.

At next level I was planning on EK and making it not total shit by way of the abyssal strength perks.

However upon further inspection it seems that I only get the arcane spells and not the bloodline shit from my casting class with EK.

Is this correct?

EK seems like shit desu but I've already got the arcane armor and some other combat feats and a +1 mithral breastplate so we're pretty committed to this path already.

So continue down this path or throw it and come back as magus?

>>46219464
Sounds like you want Abyssal Bloodrager desu senpai

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>>46219464
Magus.

Also
>core rulebook only
For what purpose.

>>46219474
Core for the 3 guys new to pathfinder and tg in general.

They've adapted and want it all now.

>>46219464
Prestige classes never advance class features unless they explicitly say that they do, so it is correct to say that going EK will forfeit your Abyssal bloodline benefits.

I was dicking around making an Ifrit character, and some sites are saying to add +2 to a stat of my choosing, which I can't find in my book.
Am I missing something or were elemental plane touched rebalanced since the book was published?

>>46219464
You could go Dragon Disciple instead. It gives you more strength and some Con. Also advances your bloodline. Due to shenanigans, you can pick up pretty much all of your non-dragon bloodline, AND get pretty much all the dragon stuff too.

You'd need to be crossblooded though, to have your existing bloodline and Draconic.

>>46219486
That's the proper way to use core-only, for new people to get their feet wet before allowing more.

The problem comes when your DM wants to run a core-only game despite having played PF for multiple years, including a game he ran that allowed everything.

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>>46214237
>>46214331
>>46214409
>>46214319
>>46214383
>>46215052

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Hello /pfg/

Are there any items that can be used to improve one's chance of successfully negotiating with outsiders called by Planar Binding?

>>46219863
Cute~

>>46219911
I think the Inward Facing Circle helps with binding. It isn't on Nethys or the srd though.
It's from Occult Mysteries, you can find it in the trove.

>>46213419
No, but one of his best friends (who owns a tavern) is in the process, by filtering carbon dioxide into a tea made of coca leaves and honey, then chilling the result. It's a nasty-looking green mess, and gets you high as fuck from all the cocaine in it, but its a start.

>>46218178
Houri, elf/nymph hybrid, and female. The original pic had worse anatomy issues and a severe allergy to clothes.

>>46218214
> Pushing

Uhh. You seen the Mystic or Privateer art lately, friend? My order on Houri's art update was "make her seem like an adventurer"; everything else was just cooperatively deciding details like her ioun stone and potions.

I personally like to offer my artists creative freedom. I spent far too long watching the guy who draws my webcomic get abused and taken advantage of to feel comfy with being a demanding asshole. Levi's improved further since these pics and I'd be quite happy to work with him again.

>>46218528
Hey now. What do you think stuff like Living Legend, the Lords line, or our Psionics Augmented stuff is?

Though yes, the race concepts from Bloodforge are, by and large, not mine.

Morning /pfg/.

>>46219947
Morning Gareth.
Still drunk?

>>46219991
I wish.

>>46219928
Thanks!

>>46220004
Yo Gareth question: Is there any way to get Shattered Mirror on Umbral blade?

>>46220046
Occult Mysteries is pretty dope, the books are great, really like the Book of 1,000 Whispers

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>>46219944
>cocaine
>he's literally making Coke

You're gonna be rich, anon!

>>46220136
>Yo Gareth question: Is there any way to get Shattered Mirror on Umbral blade?
"You can only advance these specific disciplines with this PRC" is stupid and I'm sure Chris is responsible for that, just ignore it.

>>46220158
Yeah, I too think it's stupid especially since I think Shattered Mirror would fit well to Umbral Blade.

>>46216791

Okay, if you stick to Paizo stuff - first, give them decent loot. Casters can "make"their own bonuses, martials need them from elsewhere. Still, levels 6-10 are ok.

Fighter - use a lot of the unchained stuff (combat stamina being free as recommended for them, +2 background skill points, option to VMC at the cost of some of their feats (fighters have a fair few feats). I am interested in buffing bravery as right now it is pretty bad compared to other 1st level scaling class features and is kept only for the AWTs. My idea would be something called indomitable that adds half the fighter level to saves vs fear and stamina pools, and lets you pay stamina points up to that bonus as an immediate action to get the corresponding bonus to a save. Use half that bonus for any AWT or other trick that works off bravery to keep it from messing up with other martials.

Also, weapon training gives an insight bonus to AC when being attacked with such weapons. The defensive weapon training feat adds to that (I would keep it to +2 for all, since the additional +1 or more is rolled into the feature)

My idea is to give the class a more defined niche as a weaponmaster with a very developed style and a surprising focus and resilience (a reminiscence of previous editions when they had fairly good saves). That said, fighters have received a fair few buffs from Unchained and the weapon master's handbook, so I am looking forward to the armor handbook.

Cavaliers I am less used to, since I often just go for the daring champion route. For the standard cavalier, I would say ensure the mount is not a disadvantage by having plenty of fights where the player can go mounted (less of a problem if using, say, a halfling), possibly buff the banner bonuses a bit. The tactician ability varies in usefulness depending on the group.I might throw a few free mounted combat feats, since that is sort of the main focus of the class and they only get 3 generic combat feats - and at higher levels.

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>>46220136
>>46220158
>>46220205
'm not gonna lie, I'm hung over and cannot remember clearly if this is one of the things getting addressed/discussed during the errata, so I'ma table this for the moment while I shamble in the general direction of my morning chores.

>>46220220
Alright Gareth, will prolly lurk all day anyways.

>>46220136
If a trait/tradition replaces a discipline, it does for all classes that have that discipline, including PrCs.

>>46220245
Well Shattered Mirror is native to my base (Hidden Blade).

It's yo boy the oppressive Wizard, looking for more loopholes to exploit:

While a wizard can target their familiar using spells the target of which usually is "you", is it ever possible to have it the other way around? That is, have your familiar cast a spell the target of which is "you", but transmit it to the wizard?

>>46220379
How? Familiars aren't spellcasters, unless they use a wand, and then the wand is casting the spell, not the user.

>>46220427
>then the wand is casting the spell, not the user.
Do you mean it's impossible to have spells the target of which is "you" in wands?

Also, can't you have spellcasters as familiers using Improved Familiar?

>>46220443
You can have a spell that targets "you" in a wand but it's not "your" spell. So the wizard can't use it on a familiar, at least as I read the ability.

Fair point about Improved Familiars though. Still, there's no ability for them to share such a spell.

>>46220477
>it's not "your" spell

Fair point.

>>46220379
Doesn't work unless your Wizard also has Share spell or other special class feature on himself.

>>46220379
oppressive? please explain.

>>46220550
I DM PF for a table (soon to be two). Being a somewhat regular of this board, I've heard lots about how Wizards are overpowered, but I'd never tried it for myself.
The opportunity arose when I was invited to play (ForeverDM status finally broken after some 8 years), so I decided to go for a Wizard and see just how broken they were, by trying to bend everything as much as possible.

I am God on the battlefield, but the party's vivisectionnist trivializes every encounter by one-shotting basically everything.

I've been thinking of making a houserule for my table where every 4 levels you get +1 to two different stats instead of +1 to one.

What do you guys think?

how do i get better at roleplaying? got my character written down but i didn't feel very talkative in the first session, often not feeling anything interesting to say, overall being very shallow and timid, which my character should not be.

>>46220581
Was that before or after you casts a sacred geometry Quicken Empower Fireball follow by Dazing Intensified Empower Fireball?

>>46220609
Seems pretty reasonable, makes MAD builds more viable, which is always fun.

>>46220623
I contain myself to only things I would allow on my table, and I allow neither Dazing spell nor Sacred geometry.

>>46220621
>how do i get better at roleplaying?
Practice. You're aware of (some of the) things you're doing wrong, so just try not to do those.

>>46220621
Get yourself comfortable with the group. A little bit of alcohol can help.

Just like in group sex

>>46220609
why? i don't see any reason why you could see it as necessary or cool.

if players end up with lot of odd scores you might allow them to get odd enhancement bonuses on magical items ( example: belt of strenght +1 at 1000 gold base price) or you might allow them to apply to their sores a single -1 and a single +1( not to the highest score) at character creation.
if hp is getting problematic and you want them to get more healthy look up the retraining rules for maximizing hit dice hp.

>>46220245
That's not how it's written.

>>46220655
thanks. the problem is that i am completely comfortable with the group; they are my only quasi-friends

>read about Bonded Mind because it was brought up yesterday
>See it was from Distant Shores
>follow thread
>It's a gay-exclusive feat chain

I'm noticing a trend that there are literally zero straight people, or straight couples, worth mentioning in Pathfider material, but the more important thing is how is a straight character supposed to take this feat? It's gay/lesbian exclusive.

>>46220672
To buff MAD classes, to buff classes that favor a stat that doesn't apply to a save, to help monks get good AC, and because I like how 5e did it but letting everyone get +2 to one stat instead of +1 to two stats would push the game even more in favor of the SAD classes, so I limited it a bit

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>>46220707
>Below are several new teamwork feats designed for the Iridian Fold, but able to be taken by any character.
Literally what are you on about, there's nothing 'gay-exclusive' about it.

>>46220707
it doesn't look like its workings have anything to do with the sexuality of their users.

please check your source and list it if you find it differently.

>>46220725
Hell, even in the default fluff on that page, it says that there's groups of straight couples that use the feats.

>>46220725

The feats are designed for the Iridian Fold, which is "Sacred Band" tier gay.

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>>46220707
looks like google is able to guess both my sexual orientation and my political orientaion...

>>46220755
...and they can be taken by anyone who wants them, regardless of affiliation.

Like, what's your complaint here? That the mechanical option has been soiled forever by the fact that some gays halfway across the world might be using the same feat?

>>46220776

Hmm? I was seeing the feat is associated with the Iridian Fold and thus assumed the feat chain was only for members of the Fold, or those who practice the Fold's orientation.

Remember those transsexual traits released by Crystal? Same idea, can't take them unless you're transsexual. There are plenty of feats or traits locked behind race or ethnic lines, I thought orientation was the next logical step.

>>46220867
It's right there in the text, man.
>Below are several new teamwork feats designed for the Iridian Fold, but able to be taken by any character.
>able to be taken by any character.

Also, the transsexual traits you mentioned are purely Crystal's homebrew (for the time being, check back come Crystal Frasier: The AP next year).

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>>46220867
Even if it was limited to the organization, the fluff writeup ON THE SAME PAGE says it's not all gay.

Right before it says "able to be taken by any character."

>>46220707
>I'm noticing a trend that there are literally zero straight people, or straight couples

Source? I know there's Oleg and Svetlana in Kingmaker, but beyond that it's tragic widows and curiously single NPCs all the way down.

>>46220900

That seems kinda thrown in as a "whatever" to the consumer, though. Like, they wanted to keep it Iridian exclusive but knew they'd be alienating a small part of their fanbase in doing so.

>>46220959
I'm not sure I see your point. It's the same sort of thing as "this feat is for X evil organization or X good organization, but anyone can take it."

That's just standard stuff for options tied to fluff, man.

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>>46220959
You're reaching more and more to justify this weird belief that Paizo wanted to force everyone to be homos, anon. They're SJWs, not Chick Tract villains.

>>46220992
I'm pretty sure anon sees no difference between those two.

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So what would the Antipaladin equivalent of a Chosen One be called?

Nascent Terror? Abyssal Initiate? Scion of Villainy? Prodigial Son?

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In other news, I'm hoping the Mythic campaign picks up this week. Everyone seems to be getting over their colds, flu, or whatever the hell bug has been floating around lately. Fingers crossed!

So what are you looking forward to most next session, /pfg/?

>>46221158
I just want to get back to DMing. I had to delay my last session because I was feeling like shit AND studying for a midterm, and I hate that.

>>46221147
Overlord's Child

>>46221158
Getting to charge things for even more damage now that I got Spirited Charge.

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>>46221147
Pact-Magic-al Girl

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>>46221178
Huh?

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>>46221158
>So what are you looking forward to most next session, /pfg/?

We're meeting White Estrid!

>>46221262
>implying fino isnt at least lawful evil

>>46221147
False Messiah, Hand of Evil, Marked One, Chosen of the Abyss

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>>46221384
>Implying the windmills are no threat

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In today' episode of "what the hell is going on in this picture", can YOU identify what the purpose of this building is?

pro-tip: 1st floor on the left, 2nd floor on the right.

>>46221472
A tannery with a small library

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>>46221472

Paper mill, printing press, or tannery?

>>46221472
Medieval laundromat.

>>46221472
A dyers?

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>>46221340
>Hand of Evil

I like this one.

>>46221147
Wouldn't they still be a chosen none?
"good" aren't the only ones with favorites and prophecies and saviors and shit.

That shit goes both ways. Just as many people want to resurrect Ganon as do want to reawaken Zelda, and neither's too fond of the other side.

>>46221544
That gif is probably one of the most evil things out there.

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>>46221550
>That shit goes both ways.

>Congratulations!
>Your baby boy is the antichrist!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCrEeqmjOBo

Why the fuck does jabbing master require power attack?

It's such a perfect feat for dex-monks, but it's got that fucking power attack requirement jammed in there ruining it for them

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>>46221147
>>46221625
>"when I became a paladin, I thought I'd have to give up my dream of smiting small children..."

>>46221472
a, human or medium sized creature operated, papermaking facility for giants and average folk who like oversized books.

>>46221711
You don't mind dodge and mobility, huh?

>>46221753
Well, I do, they suck, but at least they're just a feat drain, not an ability score drain

>>46221550
Now to figure out what they'd get for Familiars. Would it have to be CE things, or just any Evil?

Or maybe they'd have a Villainous Mentor their familiar could call up once a day? It'd be a more powerful Demon/Qlippoth/whatever the heck than the familiar itself becoming stronger, but they wouldn't have it all the time. That could be flavorful, keep the "your baby boy is the Antichrist" theme, and avoid /just/ being an Evil reskin of the Chosen One.

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>>46221929
Remember that where paladin gets a shitty horse, antipaladin already gets a permanent summoned monster companion.

Just let the player pick an outsider type that has a Ring of Summoning Affinity and add those outsiders to the list, then let the familiar be the one that summons them instead of the character.

Alternatively, do what I'm doing for my asura antipaladin: Summon Guardian Spirit to get a single HD-scaling familiar-companion in place of having a new nameless summon every level.

>>46222037
>Remember that where paladin gets a shitty horse

What are you talking about? I took Monstrous Mount and my Paladin of Kurgess is currently riding a Celestial Griffon.

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Are rhoka cool? Are you cool if you wield a rhoka? Are an above average quantity of cool people seen wielding a rhoka?

>>46220205
They did gain Cursed Razor with PoWE, and chats with Gareth and Forrest have led me to believe that RAI is that it works like all the other PrCs (you still have your previous disciplines)

>>46222254
The only cool person I am aware off that wields a Rhoka would be the Lord of Mohrgs.

>>46222255
Yes of course you still have it, but the PrCs (at least as written) only grant new maneuvers from certain Disciplines. In the case of the Umbral Blade those would be Black Seraph, Steel Serpent, Veiled Moon, Thrashing Dragon and Cursed Razor.

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>>46222225

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>DM thinks Hybrid classes are overpowered

What is the quickest you've dropped out of a campaign?

>>46222254
The soul calibur sword in Soul Calibur II is split like a rhoka. The design changes game to game though. It looks pretty cool. The magus's art on pfsrd also has a character wielding a rhoka.

As a weapon it's of little value unless you get *specific* proficiency in it for free from your race or something, and not just an exotic weapon proficiency of your choice. As exotic one-handers go, the estoc strictly outclasses it as an 18-20 crit weapon (unless you can make a case for slashing > piercing), the falcata outdamages it on average, the nine-section-whip has a ton of features, the sawtooth sword is the TWF weapon of choice, and the bastard sword is the one you'd want to wield oversized and when growing to higher sizes. Rhoka have no purpose.

>>46222751
Does "on reading ad topic title" count?

>>46222751
To be fair, arcanist is pretty fucking OP

>>46222785

Yes, give me your worst.

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>>46222751
>"We're going to use the non-elite array rather than a point-buy system to make the game seem more realistic!"
>"What do you mean the non-elite array only offers 5 points when low-fantasy says 10 points are normal? Quit trying to tell me how to DM!"

>>46222751
>DM introduces his 5th-level kemonomimi twin girl gestalt DMPCs that will be accompanying the party
>the party is 3rd

>>46213419
Vodka, after all he is in Russia.

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>>46222855

>mfw the DM lets me play a Russian Gunslinger in Iron Gods.

>>46222254
Slightly, no, far below average.

Anyone know where I can get a hero lab crack?
If not, what is the best tool for making a character?