CYOA General

Can someone post slut life.

>>46168258
In cases like this it's actually better to wait several hours before a new thread.

>>46168271
You've got nothing better to do huh?

>>46168267
>can someone post trash into the thread

Can someone make a CYOA that makes fun and calms everyone down?

>>46168258
Delete thread.

>>46168288
Not really.

Just delete the thread

>>46168303
This

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>>46168258
>>46168296

>>46168271

Rather than complaining about your unfaithful trap waifu, say you get a chance to freely repick. Who do you pick among the "safe" waifus?

Patrica? Vivian? Melony? Lolita? Perhaps Polyanna if you're into that?

>>46168303
You'd better fucking not or I will start one with that shit as the OP. Just ignore it and carry on or else let the shitflinging burn itself out.

>>46168277
I'm betting on my hopes that nobody will dare start shit again after last thread.

>>46168346
3 posts in already proved you wrong

>>46168346
It didn't even take a minute.

Pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/vrqYhnpu

I'm not posting a link to last thread because last thread doesn't deserve a link to it.

>>46168346
Uh... oops?

>>46168325
Blue box. Always the blue box.

Lolita would be next. Patricia would be OK but the fact that her thing is literally brain damage makes me uncomfortable.

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>>46168258
I'm reposting this thing I didn't make.

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>>46168267

>>46168333
You're a bad poster.

>>46168380
meant to reply to
>>46168362

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>>46168303
Won't change a thing. Now post some other CYOAs instead.

>>46168307
Well I'm appreciative of your honesty at least.

>>46168413
>Posted something in the exact same style.

>>46168382
Most people have brain damage. It doesn't mean much in almost all cases. It's just that the reality of the term is a bit different to the popular usage of the term, where anyone with brain damage is a drooling retard.

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>>46168391
Misery bocks!

>>46168436
>Most people have brain damage.
I doubt that.

>>46168425
You're welcome.

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>>46168396
Deleting threads because you don't like what's being posted in them just pisses me off is all.

Anyway, lets post some other shit.

>>46168325
Melony's easily the best choice, but Patricia is also top tier. Vivian... I really don't want to raise dozens of children. Money may not be an object, but imagine the time commitment. I don't have any desire to steal other peoples' girlfriends, so Polyanna is right out. Lolita would get old - she may have her papers, but I really don't want to have to deal with getting the cops called on me on a regular basis, to say nothing of how people I know would view me. Finally, the sister... I'm a big guy, and I'm not particularly attracted to big girls, especially not ones who look like my mom.

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>>46168464

>>46168391
Warlock, because she seems like we'll have lots of interesting adventures without too much consequences if we fuck up.

Or mystery box, because this doesn't seem like too much of a grimdark CYOA.

>>46168450
Oh... it was posted while I was typing this.

Magical girl, for pure Saturday-morning cartoon fun and happiness.

>>46168413
I still want Tyrone as the mystery option.

>>46168413
I'm better in 3/4 things listed there for Tyrone. The only way if that could happen is rape through alcohol or drugs and that would hardly be cheating

>>46168464
>>46168396
Deleting threads annoys everyone, and it doesn't accomplish anything. Fuck off with it and never do it again unless you made a honest mistake when making the thread, like made a second thread when we already had another new one.

>>46168413
Silly anon, being in a loving relationship with a sexy murderess is my fetish.

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"The culling" exists for a couple of reasons

>To enable PVP
>To make room for the next wave of rookies
>To enforce a "tax" (for exempt) to prevent minimalist-hunters

It doesn't affect NPCs, only hunters, so it has a fairly minimal societal impact, especially with the goddess enforcing things otherwise.

>>46168550
Aren't you passionate about getting your way.

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>>46168516
Pretty good taste.
Though, Black Mage is obviously the correct choice.

>>46168545
Or maybe she just wants some variety.

>>46168568
>>To enable PVP
To force PVP
>To make room for the next wave.
So everyone is killed and raped.
>To enforce a tax
Why not just give us less points?

>>46168391
White mage because supporting is where the money is at.

>>46168570
No, I'm passionate about not having our thread deleted on the whim of some random idiot.

>>46168602
No flow.

Why exactly did the last thread get deleted?

>>46168325
If her current body wasn't below the age of consent, Jii. Since it is, I guess I'll go with Patricia.

>>46168319
Name: 'Seeker'
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>>46168645
What?

>>46168602
>So everyone is killed and raped.
Sooner or later, yes, at least one of those. How do you think hybrids are made?

>>46168653
Something about a cyoa being posted in the thread.

>>46168271
>Picked Jii
I have no complaints. Her past life is irrelevant. Now she's both smart and she's a cutie.

>>46168612

Deleting it's silly anyway since someone would repost it again just to trigger whoever made the last thread and deleted it.

>>46168333
is the correct response. Especially since nobody's even really complaining about it anymore.

>>46168673
According to the CYOA they're made by the evil god putting a monster soul in a human body.

>>46168568
>>To enable PVP
I feel like this could be accomplished in a number of other ways.
>>To make room for the next wave of rookies
By decimating the people who could pass on valuable experience? It kind of devalues the whole thing and makes it an undesirable career path outside of lunatics and rapists.
>>To enforce a "tax" (for exempt) to prevent minimalist-hunters
This whole civilization is going to be over-run by megafauna, isn't it?

>>46168568
>enable
Enabling is one thing, forcing is another. The word you're looking for is FORCED PVP unless you sacrifice a butt load of points.

>>46168602
It prevents you from hunting one slime or something and then doing nothing the rest of the month. You need to either have a well-equipped build to fight off (or avoid) other players or else hunt enough monsters to pay the tax.

Simply giving less points doesn't avoid the minimalist idea, and it hurts the well-rounded characters more.

>>46168653
It got archived, not deleted. But to answer your question:

To put it in a really simplified way, there was a really bad flamewar that erupted because of a CYOA with controversial options.

>>46168391
i remember this being longer and having a werewolf

>>46168568
>tax

If you balanced the amount of points you could gain properly in the first place, you wouldn't need a fucking tax.

>enable pvp

Forcing something is very different from enabling the possibility of a thing.

>make way for rookies

And Hunters dying to Monsters doesn't already accomplish this?

>>46168754
Maybe a new version was made while I was asleep?

>>46168743
>It hurts the well rounded characters.
I think getting raped and killed by other players is going to hurt more than some asshole never doing anything.

>>46168776
while you were asleep a few months ago maybe, it's not a new CYOA

>>46168752
There was another thread for like 2 minutes that got deleted by the OP after 3 posts because the next person posted THAT.

>>46168759
It's not "Forced" if there's an opt-out.

>>46168743
Are you familiar with a bounty system sir?
These work well for hunters as it values either masses of low key prey or rewards successful high key prey hunts. If your a lazy shit you starve.

>>46168813
>It's not "Forced" if there's an opt-out.
The opt out you can only buy if you take the most dangerous missions then spend half your points?

>>46168743

Agreed, and I like developing my /k/ wizard build for the culling. Don't listen to the haters.

>>46168464
>>46168493
>>46168568
Why do you need Fire to get Lightning? Lightning starts fires sometimes, but when the fuck does a fire shoot lightning bolts at people outside of a fucking volcano eruption?

Why can you get so might strength and agility and skill?

Defense and Intelligence are extremely rare. It's very easy to become a well rounded or highly specialized melee or ranged physical build but magic builds and high defense builds have to really go all over the fucking place for their basic stats. It pretty much forces you to take the +3 stat points as a DEF or INT focused build.

You either need to tone down how easy it is to get Strength, Agility and Skill or add in a couple more places to get intelligence and defense.

You also need to break up the physical tree better. A tree devoted to melee range and a tree devoted to ranged physical. Part of the prior mentioned issue with DEF and INT is that there is one go to tree for melee, that you can then compliment with weaponry and the others. In contrast ranged and magic builds are forced over several trees.

This is not a bad thing.

The bad thing is that too much melee power is in one place and the amount of stats it offers massively outnumbers the amount of stats in any other tree.

>>46168807
Well, I got it from here...
>>46110781

>>46168813
it was posted itt as well, but nobody seems to care anymore

glad it's over though

i haven't seen a more simultaneously huge and pointless argument in ages

and my homeboard is fuckin' /mu/

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>>46168602
>>46168698
>>46168803
>Rape
>Rape
>Rape
Whatever the fuck is the problem here? Is there anything important in noting that imaginary characters are being raped? I think I'm missing something important.

>>46168827
You get 90 points just for taking mid-tier threats. Either 3 3/5 threat monsters or 2 3/5 threat zones. Both give the same value.

You either git gud or git ded. No half assing with a few low tier threats for an easy life.

>>46168813
>opt out
You mean the opt out that forces you into the most dangerous missions and the sacrifice of a massive amount of points that forces you into said missions?

>>46168927
>You get 90 points just for taking mid-tier threats
Not if you took biomes.

>>46168905
Another issue is that it seems like the Skill stat is entirely useless. All that boosts it are sharper weapons and it doesn't have much unique to it and relies on other stats to be useful.

>>46168927
And that's another issue with your image, bounties versus licenses/terrains are out of whack. One of obviously much more profitable for no reason even though it implies you can run into the same threats and more in a chosen terrain.

>>46168915
The imaginary character is supposed to be you.

>>46168927
Different anon, and while I get it from a balance perspective, it just seems really stupid from an in-universe perspective to have all the monster hunters trying to kill each other, thereby reducing the amount of people available to fight actual monsters.

>>46168946
Yeah, biomes should really give you a lot more points. I also wish you could take more than one modifier for the less dangerous biomes - all the fun biomes are basically priced out for the most boring ones.

>>46169047
IT also takes the CYOA focus away from fighting monsters.

>>46168464
Could someone post the original version of this please?

>>46169064
Yeah, I get that, and I get why it's there.

But again, it just seems like a really stupid idea from an in-universe perspective.

>>46168271
Can someone post the first part? Didn't save last time.

>>46168915
PvP is a dangerous position to take in CYOA.
Especially when it is counterproductive and could be prevented with any number of solutions.
In Artifex and other PvP based CYOA this makes sense, as these are often Highlanderesque situations.
Here we're supposed to be fighting feckin' dragons. And you tell me that for half a feckin' season it's open season? It's not the rape its that somehow the hunters are expected to eat each other, and after the season forgive all feckin' grieves.
All the while the FECKIN' DRAGONS ARE STILL FECKIN' FLYING AROUND.
I would be fine with the Culling if not for this glaring hole. FECKIN' WELSH.

>>46169117
I'm saying taking the focus away from the monster hunting is bad.

>>46168258
Leave a link to last thread dammit

>>46169047
From what I can tell, there's no real need to fight the monsters. The whole thing is some crazy guy's entertainment.

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>>46168568
>justifying The Culling

Honestly it is boring and bland as fucking hell, and literally only takes away from the game. If you wanted PvP, make it like fucking Valhalla.

>To make room for the next wave of rookies

Literally the stupidest reason.

>>To enforce a "tax" (for exempt) to prevent minimalist-hunters

>lol the CYOA REALLY ISN'T ACTUALLY ABOUT HUNTING

The Author can honestly die.

>>46168905
>The bad thing is that too much melee power is in one place and the amount of stats it offers massively outnumbers the amount of stats in any other tree.

melee is at an inherent disadvantage. people don't usually think about it this way, but when you say "melee", all other things being equal, it's automatically worse than ranged. to say nothing of magic, which combines ranged attacks with other things.

>>46169153
Last thread doesn't deserve a link.

>>46169163
>It's made by Bliss

Oh THAT'S the problem.

>>46169142
Hey hey, don't go around putting words in people's mouths.
I don't support the culling, but I wanted to ask why everyone was pointing rape at it.

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I'm convinced that everyone in /cyoag/ will always be mad.

It's not even the NTR fetishist guy from last thread, or the culling from monster hunter

I think you guys just want to be mad

why

why can't we just post CYOA

>>46168905
Or you can fuck stats and become a dragon. Repost of the build edition:

Class: Sorcerer
Blessing: Soul-Dragon

Skills
Tempered
Willpower
Sixth Sense
One with Nature (Def+1)
Binding (int+1)
Monster Within
Hybrid
Killer instinct
Siphon
Incarnation
Pocketing
Premonition
Blessed
Healing
Indomitable
Telepathy

Stats
2 STR
4 DEF
3 AGI
6 INT
2 SKI

Liscenses
Volcanic, Glacier

90 points

-5 gender
-5 beauty
-5 physiology (draconic features)
-10 alchemy
-10 market
-5 scavenging
-5 diner
-5 hot springs
-5 club
-10 inn

25 leftover, I could buy exempt, maybe sacrifice a luxury like Physiology or hot springs for some spending money, but I have plans to deal with the culling anyway.

I turn into a fucking dragon. Because I gain the "full power and size" of the monster, my own physical attributes are mostly irrelevant. Magical bonuses like one with nature still apply, but most of the bast stats don't. I would assume INT governs my ability to transform, so I take Sorcerer start for that.

While a dragon, I can rely on my mental assets, both my base intelligence and things like telepathy and sixth sense to give me an edge in combat. If I ever come across something stronger than me, I can Siphon it to add to my own strength. Of course, it isn't practical to be a giant dragon in every encounter, so I can store 2 other souls of smaller monsters for lesser fights.

During the culling I will hide out in the wilderness. I can disguise myself as a lesser monster while hunters are preoccupied with each other. I have the intellegence to live off the land, and can carry a nearly unlimited amount of supplies if that turns out to be more difficult. If I am forced into a fight, I still have my dragon/siphon. I avoid anyone with "nullification", thanks to premonitions of my almost definite demise in that case.

>>46169200
Depends on where you hunt. If I were melee, I'd stick heavily to the Ruins and Caves during the Culling, which would do a lot to equalize our approaches, if not make mine superior.

>>46168946
Volcanic/Desert/Glacial are still considered "Mid tier" by themselves. They have a 3/5 threat rating same as the monsters. That's 45 each or 90 for two, same as 3 monsters.

High tier biomes are those combined with other effects, reaching 4 or 5 threat level.

>>46169163
>>46169229
You can buy out The Culling, you know. And if you do you basically get a month off of vacation.

>>46169229
Pretty much. I don't know why you people ever even read his shit anymore, he always comes up with an idea that's okay, makes it pretty, and then turns it into trash.

>>46169249
Because like Vulcan, Highlander, has been lost to us, one day he shall return in glory of the meth doesn't kill him.

>>46169231
Sorry, but the fact we've got minotaur rapist anon indicates a certain crow of wank happy /d/eviants. I played Hellmoo. I know what I'm talking about.

Feckin' Welsh,

>>46169302
For half your points.

>>46169302
>abitrarily put unnecessary feature into CYOA
>lol you can buy out

So why didn't you just remove the feature and deduct my points by that amount in the first place?

>>46169251
I never went for Shapeshifting for the simple reason that it requires me to have a soul of the monster I become... Which means I have to have killed it... Which means I'm turning into something that I defeated. Seems like a bad idea.

>>46169200
What about Skill users? They have to melee but they don't have strength or agility either.

>>46169302
If you wanted to create a reason for people to join PvP you should have made it a unique benefit, not a tax on the general point pool.

>>46169324
Less than a third unless you are a lazy faggot who won't hunt anything higher than a 2threat.

>>46168464
Stabbyguy making a hunterkiller. Please wait warmly.

>Sorcerer
>+3 Stat points (One in each Toughness, Agility and Skill)

>>MAGICAL
>Catalysts, Arcane, Blink, Time Wrap
>>SPIRITUAL
>One with Nature, Monster within, Hybrid
>>ETHEREAL
>Indomitable, Blessed, Telepathy, Healing, Ascension
>>WEAPONRY
>Bladed Arms, Ancient Weapon, Enchantment

Stats
P 2
T 5
A 6
I 7
S 6

Monsters
>Basilisk
>Phoenix
>Strange

Not bothering to fill in the gabs.

Enchantment gives a bladed staff the punch it needs. Petrify makes fast, low skill hunters easier. Strange is the go-to strategy for everyone without Indomitable or anti-magic. Phoenix Soul is the back-up plan. Due to an evenly high stat spread I can go melee and ranged as needed. Blink and Telepathy keep me save.

>>46169249
I think anon started the Culling talk to distract people.

Also you have to admit, constructive crit for monster hunter is way more productive.

>>46169251
Bliss said if you do that the soul can take over and turn you insane.

>>46169298
>Mid tier
They're top tier.

>>46169346

Because some people like the feature

>>46169348
It's the "blue mage" route. But you can take a free soul of any monster when you start, so it's like playing a Blue mage with end-game monster spells at level 1.

The normal trick to playing the blue mage is to get party members to help you over the initial hump.

>>46169324
25 is not half. Why do you assume 50 is the cap?

>>46169315
I like Bliss.

>>46169395
Anon. Wizard.
No. Sense. Of. Right. Or. Wrong.

>>46169249
What's your favorite CYOA?

>>46169397
So have folks rewarded for doing it, instead of punished for opting out.

>>46169397
>majority of the people are bitching about the feature or think it is unnecessary
>but some people like the fact that it detracts from the game

Yes, only the literal dork souls /k/ faggot crowd likes it. Good to know you are the cancer destroying 4chan.

>>46169405
Because I made a biome build with mid-tier areas and only had 40 points to spend.

>>46169324
>Half

Nigga, the fuck you huntin? Cockroaches?

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>>46169395
No, Molten Volcano, Sunken Glacier, or Twilight Desert (for example) are Top tier. It's based on threat level. 1-2 is low, 2-4 is mid, 4-5 is high, 5s being top.

Without any modifers Glacial, Volcano and Desert are solid 3s.

>>46169450
This is the ideal fix, as if this is for the sake of madness, what do you want? The guy who cleans the slimes out of the garden or the nutjobs fighting the mega-horrors.

>>46169445

Traveller, honestly. I have a couple builds I strung together for it a while back, but I lost them. Gonna go back and replay it.

>>46169451
I can't tell if you're serious or just pretending to be a raging faggot in order to make the position youre arguing "against" look more reasonable.

In any case shut the fuck up, we don't need PvP in CYOAs and you're not helping.

>>46169163
>If you wanted PvP, make it like fucking Valhalla.

Someone needs to do this but with a very similar style to the monster hunter cyoa.

Monster Hunter is my favourite cyoa and I want more like it.

>>46169395
>Bliss said if you do that the soul can take over and turn you insane.

#lolurbuildiswrong!

>>46169522
I've been meaning to read it, but I just haven't found the time.

>>46168568
Nice excuses there.

>>46169502
>>46169450
>>46169353
It's more than that. It should not be tied to the point pool at all. Make it a unique benefit of some sort.

>>46169533
Blame that on Bliss man, not me.

>>46169451

Hey now friend, /k/ is my secondary board. Knock off them negative waves.

>>46169534

It's probably one of the best I've done, and the author is getting all of that into the standard format, which is no easy feat because of how girthy the thing is.

>>46168391
cleric because i like genki and also kinda dislike burning people or shooting them with lightening

>>46169522
I'd advise holding out for a bit, Highlander is going to throw the next edition out in the next week or something. Finished hubworlds with 8-10 new ones, bunch of fixes, maybe more.

>>46169534
Save it, take your time with it, it's a lot different then other CYOA.

We can all agree Noble is the worst class, right? You never see anyone being a Noble.

>>46169554
>>46169533
>>46169395
Death of the author.

If he wants to nerf incarnation wit h soul takeover, he needs to release a new version that mentions it.

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>>46169570

>next edition out in the next week

New hubworlds you say?

Advice taken, famalam, thanks for the news.

>>46169523
>>46169562
Anons, the angry /v/ crowd has been the ones the destroying (well, destroying a rotten corpse) over the last few years. I only included /k/ because of /v/ crowd's obsession with hardcore gaming, including games like Stalker.

Anyone have that one cyoa where you get to chose a god to follow and get powers based off of them? There were 2 versions but im looking for the second, the top left was some shining guy who was basically 'go be a big hero' and then the middle top was about making places suitable to live

>>46169605

/v/ really isn't as crazy about STALKER as /k/ is though, not by a long shot, sure it's a classic, but on /k/ it's woven into the actual board culture.

>>46169581
Of course.

>>46169496
Or you go Sunken Volcano, Molten Glacial. The only thing I really fear is Twilight and maybe ancient.

>>46169581
Fuck the Nobility.
>burntheHaspburgsreignofterrorroundtwo.jpg

>>46169603
I'll drop here as soon as our kilt drops it for you man.

>>46169502

The Culling also really promotes people going super into 'Dangerous creatures' in order to have the points to actually survive come the Culling.

>>46169200
You're right that melee is worse than ranged or magic in theory. There is no reason some moron with a sword, shield and some metal armor should every stand up to a talent ranged character sniping them with a bow, or a mage zapping them with lightning.

Outside of magic. And they can take magic. Yeah. See, that's the problem, you give melee massively more power than anyone else, under the assumption that THEY CAN'T FUCKING TAKE ANYTHING ELSE EVEN THOUGH THEY FUCKING CAN YOU STUPID FUCKING MORON.

Because you made a CYOA where you can fucking multiclass. You can, and people have, made builds that highlight that melee can get all the bullshit of your pumped up melee numbers, but still get ranged or magic to make up for their weaknesses.

Meanwhile a dedicated caster cannot do this. A dedicated archer can a bit, but it's a lot more limited than if you have a melee base. Magic on the other hand cannot get its proper power without going all over the board, and still ending up with less. So you end up with all the power of melee and some ranged or magic or you end up with ranged and magic of their proper power but have no room left for any melee. It means the distance issues with melee never fucking come into play, but pure archers and casters have no points left over to pick up the melee points the way melee characters have room to pick up anything they fucking want because the have a fucking TON in one place instead very little spread all over the place.

It's fucking shit balance.

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>>46169581
It leans towards a weapon master build, but with no strength to start with it fucks that idea pretty badly. Skill is much easier to get than Strength from skills.

It does have the advantage of being the only class besides Sorc that isn't a drooling retard by default, but that's only if you consider something above 1 to be baseline. In this sort of context I consider 1 to be human baseline with all other stats being superhuman.

If you ignore stat minmaxing though, noble is good for the stylish as fuck build. I just haven't seen anyone make it yet.

>>46169651
>Nobility are specced to fight in melee
>Have skill that apparently only means they have fancier gear.
>Shitty defense strength and mediocre agility, will get destroyed in combat.
I don't think you need to worry about burning them down.

>>46169496
Underground is best, though. +1 to risk, but +15 to reward. Makes it a very lovely 120, when the max you could have gotten is 130, and the max monster licenses can get is 140.

>>46169686
>Have skill that apparently only means they have fancier gear.

Wait, what? Skill doesn't let you say, parry attacks or such?

I sorta saw high-skill builds being that sort of Batman/Pressure point master bullshit, where they can devastate people with a single careful touch.

>>46169675
Hey, Worm-anon, have you considered expanding this a bit, I feel like it can only stand to improve with more powers, bonuses, negatives and such. It's nice to see something fun.

>>46169686
Let me have my lynching.

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>>46169622
Pretty sure this is the one you are looking for.

Funnily enough I don't have the older version, the one with Ur the Wheel in top left. If someone would post that I'd appreciate it.

>>46169675
Why are all the missions for Villains?

>>46169675
Ooh, that's a nice one. I like extras that let you make the setting a better place. Though I'm also somewhat conflicted about them, since ostensibly the point of going to Worm would be to help that place, and if it's better from the very beginning you wasted that opportunity. Infinite multiverse, right, so you're not making a world better by choosing the better world options, you're just traveling to a less shitty version to start with.

>>46169746
I think it was posted in the last thread senpai.

>>46169746
Thank you, it was posted sometime last thread which prompted me to check the googledrive for this version and not be able to find it

>>46169730
It doesn't say anything like that. I'm going off the way that Skill's abilities are all just weapon upgrades and nothing else.

>>46169581
That's because people don't understand Skill as a stat and admittedly, that's not quiet easy.
I very much like to think, that all sleigh of hand actions, casting speed for sorcerers, setting traps, brewing poisons, parrying and being able to control great speed, are subjected to skill as measurement of how good you can manage the extraordinary. As such skill is an awesome secondary stat. Making sure the twelve attacks you make in a Flurry hit, your spell is readied faster then the damn dragon manages to spew fire in your direction etc..
As a noble, you may not be specialized as warriors, hunters or sorcs, but you're adaptive, yet directionless.

>>46169646
>boiling water, scalding clouds of steam, and razor-sharp rocks
>random temperature changes between sweltering and freezing, even more dream, and even more razor-sharp rocks
Yeah, I can't see why either of those areas would be considered dangerous.

>>46169675
I notice most of your missions are Villain only. Is this because it's not finished, or because you know the personalities of people around /tg/ and /cyoa/ in particular are unlikely to be heroic?

>>46169828
Well there is that blank space. It will come. Give him time.

>>46169815
None of that is supported in the CYOA though, where the Noble/Skill section of the ability chart is just weapon upgrades to make your weapon 'ancient' (whatever that means) and stuff like that.

>>46169815
If a CYOA is written in a way that a certain skill is understood to govern certain things, people will make their choices based on that understanding.

You have to be 100% explicit about what things do unless you like being able to go back and tell people their builds don't work.

>>46169082
Should be in the dropbox in the pastebin links.

>>46169815
Also, 'skill is a good secondary' doesn't help nobles since it's their primary.

>>46169675
Hey, Wormanon - what kind of elements are fair game for Kinesis ? Could I pick Dynakinesis? Chronokinesis? Pull an Accelerator and pick Vectors? Would control over concepts count? Could I decide whether something exists or not?

>>46169815
>>46169791
I consider Skill to be the ability to use weapons or martial arts. Technique in other words. It may also cover accuracy with ranged weapons and the ability to target vital locations (ie critical hits)

Without skill you fight pretty much like a monster. All force or speed but not a lot of form.

A high skill character would be like Dante. Like I said, stylish as fuck. But if you want to actually do damage you are gonna need strength and agility to back it up.

Magic wielders don't really need skill unless they like to focus on wand twirling, and monster forms don't get too much benefit either, though there is some.

>>46169912
See >>46169874

>>46169736
The other versions have more options but I wanted to make this a Worm CYOA, not a Worm "system". So the powers here are higher tiered and more open ended.

I might make that full on Worm System in future though. It would have a randomized drawback system for every power. Basically, there would be a table, say, 8 x 8. Depending on where you land in your rolls, your power may or may not have a drawback. Like Velocity's power didn't let him interact with the world or Tattletale's gave her migraines.

>>46169750
Because I just wrote it on the spot. So it ain't quite refined. But also because being a villain is more fun.

>>46169762
Not having to deal with Scion or the Endbringers in Multiverse means you can focus on rooting out the corruption and showing the Worm-verse a better way... or you know, become the biggest baddest dog in the yard and TAKE OVER THE WORLD.

>>46169912
I could see skill working for magic. Magical finesse, honing blasts of arcane energy into smaller but more focused attacks, or striking just the right spot. A monster with skill would also be pretty scary compared to a normal one.

>>46169934
Well regardless, you're doing gods work. Worm doesn't get enough love.

>>46169912
If you're the CYOA's author, update it to include what you meant Skill to do.

If you're not, the source material does not support your position. Maybe you can get the author to agree.

>>46169874
>a measurement of handling and speed of actions.
Depending on what does count as an action and what not, it's the most overpowered of all stats. Agility meanwhile says: dodge good, run fast

>>46169934
If being a villain is more fun, shouldn't you offer more trinkets to encourage people to be heroes? After all, if you make them equal then more people would go villain anyway...

>>46169980
How is it overpowered when it can't do damage or facilitate you hitting something or not being hit?

>>46168464
Reposting my build from a few threads ago.

Class: Noble
Strength: 1 + 3 (4) +5 when using Overdrive
Defence: 2 (2)
Agility: 3 + 3 (6) +5 when using Overdrive
Intelligence: 2 + 2 (4)
Skill: 4 + 4 + 3 (11)

Extra stat points: +3 skill

Physical Skills: Tempered, Willpower, Enhanced, Overdrive, Flurry, Sixth Sense, Martial Arts, Athletics

Magical Skills: Catalysts, Arcane, Blink

Spiritual Skills: Bloodlust, Monster Within

Weaponry: Bladed Arms, Ancient Weaponry

Spiritual: Indomitable, Recall, Pocketing

Bounties: Dragon, Strange, Phoenix (130)

Rewards: Forge (10), Library (10), Alchemy (10), Market (10), Healing (5), Training (5), Scavenging (5), Diner (5), Club (5), Upper (40), Servant (15)

Highest possible Skill level I could achieve to make me into a CQC dominator with a sprinkle of magic for a bit of diversity, Blink to improve on my dodging abilities and with Sixth Sense I'd hopefully be able to avoid most attacks.
Overdrive would be used for a last ditch effort attempt in case I get backed into a corner and combined with Bloodlust to mitigate the self inflicted damage.
To make up for my glass cannon nature I would aim to leech a dragon kill to absorb its soul and make myself a little bulkier and from then on its smooth sailing, hopefully.

Does Arcane allow me to use spells like magic missile and shit?

>>46169957
Monster "Skill" attribute exists, but its far more limited, simply because your ability to do complex moves is limited in those forms. Attacking with tooth and claw doesn't leave room for much in the way of advanced Kata.

>>46169996
I also feel there should be some deliberately neutral options. There's always going to be Mega-wankers who will sit on the sidelines, why not reward our merchants, hobos and gypsies?

>>46169908
I'm iffy on Dynakinesis because that gives you ALL the energies, but hey, put a Shattered Limiter there and I think that'd be fair.

Yeah, you can take Chronokinesis even without shattered limiter. Same with Vectors. I actually had Regokinesis (vector control) in an earlier version. But really, I think vector control as it's used in Index/Railgun is such a liberal use of the word that you might as well say you have the power to manipulate the number "one" and you'd get the exact same power set as vector control. Since essentially, you're just changing a universal value. So a change on any value will give the same degree of manipulation.

I'll give the CYOA another once over later, and get a more refined version out by say, the next CYOA Thread.

Here's the link for the current version:

http://imgur.com/a/18feV

>>46170017
Because everything you can do you can define as an action, dummy.

>>46169902
Yeah, sad, you can't build around that with overdrive or somesuch.... waaaaiiit.

>>46170078
I think it's meant for reflexes. How fast you can slash, for example. Maybe? That doesn't mean anything without agility which is the upper limit of how fast you can more or strength which you need to do actual damage, which is part of my problem with skill and Nobles. On its own it's not worth anything.

>>46170071
>updatedude
I can fucking dig it. But seriously, I'd advise considering some neutral bonuses. Heros and Villains are the staple of meta human stuff, but there's always going to be pragmatists and lunatics on the sidelines.

>>46169931
See description of skill Icon.

>>46170096
>Overdrive
Can we do builds without overdrive? Please? Almost everyone goes for that and it's boring.

>>46169979
Sorry I pretty much get all of that from "Handling". I mentally insert "weapon" in there, although it still applies to non-weapon (ie fist) attacks as well which is probably why it's written the way it is.

Plus the noble class is all about Style and Skill, so obviously they go hand in hand.

Skill is also all over the weapon tree, which means that learning to use weapons effectively directly translates to more skill, which reinforces the idea that it focuses on weapon forms.

>>46169996
>>46170035
Canonically, the Worm-verse forces people into conflict. It's partly why there's a Shardless option and that new Extra.

I considered giving Rogues more attention, but after over a week of fully devoting to this project, I was all "eeeeeh, FUCK Rogues, I just wanna get this DONE".

It also explains the massive number of typos, especially in later pages, hehehe.

>>46170102
How do you correctly parry?

>>46170119
I'm seeing it and I countered that in another reply.

>>46170124
Overdrive is kind of shit really. It's temporary and it pretty much leaves you helpless and seriously wounded when it wears off.

>>46170125
>learning to use weapons effectively
Most of the weapon tree is about buying fancier, vaguer weapons. Not about getting better at them.

>>46170124
Then don't do it. Go ironmass warrior and grab all the strength you can from there, that's +5 still.

>>46170138
Well if you need help I'd be happy to throw some writefaggitry in if you gave me some specs to fill.
I've got a fucking neutral streak a mile long, but I'm also a content creator and I get how hard it can be.

>>46170027
Damnit, now I want to do a Dragon Martial Artist build. Or a Dragon Swordsman build - do you think Spine Weapon would let you wield your ancestral weapon as a dragon?

>>46170145
I don't know anon, you tell me.

>>46170180
We're talking about Nobles, though. Are you saying Nobles should only be viable if they go Overdrive?

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>>46169130
I got you.

>>46170170
Overdrive + Healing is God-tier, though.

>>46170170
Get healing from ethereal and stamina.

Would Monster Hunter be better if the Culling was replaced with a nice festival where everyone can unwind?

>>46170222
I'd just like a comfy festival CYOA.
There are not enough in my eyes.

>>46170178
The first three skills are "Mastery of X weapon type". Ancient Will grants +3 skill and is specifically dedicated to enhancing the way you can wield your weapon (think Ivy's Sword).

>>46170102
If you can slash twice as fast as the other guy, that's twice as many slashes over a given amount of time, and twice as many chances to damage them. And it's not like all actions require maximum strength/agility to be effective, especially if you're hitting them twice as often as the reverse.

>>46170222

Considering that it won't have super party builds who have more points and are designed to destroy non-partiers...yeah, sure.

>>46168558

This anon has taste

>>46170259
Or the same number of slashes but you parry every single one of theirs.

>>46170188
Sure. Thanks anon. Now that the main CYOA is complete, I can focus on refining it. I'm planning to proof read the whole thing some more to catch the typos and make some parts less ambiguous. Probably remove some of the swearing. I'd probably give Rogues some attention now, but contributions would save me some trouble. They'll give me time to work on Companions.

>>46170259
But you have 1 strength, so you need to slash 10 times to equal one warrior slash. I doubt max skill lets you move ten times as fast.

>>46170295
Goddammit! I forgot the Tinkertech 0 Perk, accursed proofreading.

>>46170170
Why not take overdrive, even if you don't use it, you get an insane amount of stats from it. It's too good not to take. The fact that you can take it, and get plenty more stats for melee, and still have room for heal to completely negate the downsides of Overdrive turns it from too good with tons of stats attached to so fucking good that everyone should take it always because like quite a few of the physical skills provide way too many stats for far too few points.

>>46170295
Hey, got a question. How long does freeze ray last? Is it permanent, or just short-term? If short-term, can I keep freezing the same target over and over? Also, can I affect targets I've frozen in time without Timeless?

On another note, can I rescue people from time effects if I have Timeless?

>>46170338
The +5 is only when you've activated Overdrive, and you know it.

>>46168464
Here's a repost of old. Oddly similar to >>46170019.

STR 3 + 5
DEF 2
AGI 5 + 5
INT 6
SKL 5
DAN 2, 3, 5
TRI 100

CLASS: Noble
BLESSING: +1 Free Monster Soul (Strange)

SKILLS
PHYSICAL: Martial Arts, Willpower. Athletics, Overdrive
MAGICAL: Fire, Arcane, Lightning, Detect Magic
SPIRITUAL: Bloodlust, Monster Within, Binding, Fleet-Footed, Killer Instinct
WEAPONRY: Blunt Arms, Marksmanship, Enchantment, Stamina
ETHEREAL: Recall

BOUNTIES: Tiger, Phoenix, Dragon
PERSONA: Gender, Beauty, Exempt

RESOURCES
PROVISIONS: Market
SERVICES: Healing
LUXURY: None
ACCOMMODATION: Low
SERVANT: Hybrid (Wolf), Knowledge
STIPEND: 5c/season

>>46168413
I'd take the blind option and get neetbux.

>>46170203
You dance with your implement. you drive ourself oh so slightly away from harm and your weapon into it.
You parry from your feet up, with all your body and most effeciently, if you avert harm without needing to brace much.

>>46170203
Also, I'm not saying they should be only viable with overdrive, that was an examplefor a non overdrive build.
Make an enchantment build with deep ethereal. works good for noble.

>>46170338
Because maybe you don't want to have a cookie cutter build. Overdrive should've been nerfed really.

>>46170314
I hope you're not vulnerable to status effects then. Or are somehow immune to combat maneuvers. Or being distracted by captain ping-damage while defending against someone who can hit harder.


>>46170377
Knowing causes them to have less points, so why would they do that? /s

>>46170338
Virtually every other stat boost is "always on", even if it only technically applies under certain circumstances the bonus is considered the aggregate of all circumstances.

I think you are right about overdrive, but I wish the CYOA had specified.

>>46170399
>You dance with your implement.
Well you have the reflexes to move at your highest speed and dance, as you say, but if you don't have high agility your max speed is very low, so you're crippled.

>Deep ethereal
I'm not sure what in Ethereal is better for skill than anything else, really. Plus a lot of the abilities are too vague, like the light and shadow one, to know what they do.

>>46170433
meant to respond to
>>46170377

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>>46168653
Here. This was pretty much the last thread.

>>46170314
Yeahm worrior guy is wide open while he does and he has a high chance of not even hitting because he's slow.
Fast guy can go for specific body parts when he slashes like crazy

>>46170358
Freeze Ray last as long as you'd like it, or until the chrono energies wear off, which depends on how much you put into the blast. So maximum of a few days if you were pushing it, few hours on regular high setting and you can shoot 'booster shots' to retain the freezing? Or you can just overclock it with a-kinesis or Lawbreaker or Shattered Limiter for permafreeze.

Timeless only lets you travel through your own body, but you can buy the Manton? What's a Manton? and that'll let you affect others... or you know, use it to go all Gray Boy on others.

>>46170451
Considering some of them literally were and the guy laughed about how mad he made people, portraying him as innocent is wrong.

>>46170453
>>46170425
We mostly assume 1 vs 1 because a party arrangement could be literally anything of any size.

>>46170295
Coolio. So, if you add rogues (Independents, Renegades? Whatever works.) then they will need three base regions added. Perks [2-3] Drawbacks [1-2] and their own list of missions. Lesser [6] and Greater [6]. Missions are inherently going to be fewer then hero or villains as independents are going to stay out of the fight or focus on advancing their own goals. Is this satisfactory?

>>46170451
It just needs the Emperor crying in the backround.

>>46170468
K, was just curious. I felt like Gray Boy was one of the nastiest things Wildbow came up with, so I wanted to try and let his victims finally die, but it sounds like I can't do that without literally taking cheat mode.

>>46168905
>Why do you need Fire to get Lightning? Lightning starts fires sometimes, but when the fuck does a fire shoot lightning bolts at people outside of a fucking volcano eruption?

I agree Lightning should not require Fire. On the other hand I guess it's to balance out the fact that Frost requires Water.

>>46168981
Skill is far from useless. Think of it like a Dexterity stat which increases attacks per second and accuracy among other things.

If Strength is a hammer Skill is a rapier.

>>46170567
Useless is an exaggeration, but it's definitely useless by itself.

>>46170495
Given that the preferred Purge strategy is "party as hard as you can", that doesn't sound like the best thing to do when making assumptions.

And people seem to ignore the fact that "action economy" has a meaning. It's like no one has ever played a game where one guy can get more actions per unit time than the other guy.

>>46170521
>>46170295 (You)
Rogues is the term for neutrals in Worm. Any number of Perks/Drawbacks/Missions will do, but bear in mind that I make no promises. I'll do my best to fit this all in, although with the addition of missions, this CYOA's getting pretty high in the page count.

Perhaps I'll do Rogues as a DLC or Expansion? Hmm, that'd work, yes. Along with Missions. So they wouldn't really be part of the main page count... might remove some perks/disadvantages for the time being?

Ah, pardon my stream of consciousnessness. It's so I can refer to this thread again later for notes.

>>46170604
Right, but if we're talking about Nobles you have to take into account their no strength too. A guy who can do two 3 damage attacks is equal to a six, but a guy that can do five 1 damage attacks sure isn't.

>>46170380
Hmm, that build seems more like a jack of all trades compared to my build.. The perks are more spread out with more focus on INT and Spiritual.

>>46170469
>implying Amanda cucks you
The CYOA specifically says she would never cheat on you. You are all just a bunch of oversensitive babies.

>>46170071
Hey WormAnon, I really like how this has come out! There is some really good stuff in here. Crisis on Finite Earths is a sick extra.

Two quick things while I know you're here to help me make my build, could I use some kind of space-something-Kinesis to open up temporary portals to other universes or would it need to be a teleport with shattered limiter kind of deal?

Also! Could a take more extras without getting bonus perks/points/whatever for more flavor and divergence...?

Anyway, regardless of those questions this is a great final product and is an excellent Worm CYOA. It is interesting and different enough to stand apart from the others. You've balanced it well and I think you made the right choice going back to version 2 and refining it from there. Thanks for your hard work!

>>46170545
You can take a time based Blaster IV, Chronokinesis or Lawbreaker to fix Gray Boy's time loops. I should add that Timeless probably makes you immune to Gray Boy and Perdition as well, since you can't time travel anymore.

>>46170646
Please don't. Leave it for a thread.

>>46170439
Just think stereotypical light and shadow magic. other then that it's pretty clear I think, hot-bloodedness, better memory and a home-port, a bag of holding, blessings from a deity, so self explanatory it hurts, okay premonition is... vague, toggle tangibility for a few seconds, telepathy and a proximity sensor, healing factor for small injuries and spells for large ones, fucking wings, you become a psion with purging powers.

Also if you do simply put your sword in between yourself and a a mace, your likely going to be knocked of your feet and have the wrong side of your sword where it doesn't belong.
Keeping your poise and guiding the blow. you can't do those without learning by feeling. without having acquired the skill to do so in heat of battle.

>>46170612
Whatever works man, I'll get to it and put it out there for you.

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>>46170646
Stop trying to restart the old argument. We know you're doing it on purpose.

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>>46170594
Well sure any stat by itself is useless. What makes Skill more useless than the rest?

>>46170673
>Just think stereotypical light and shadow magic.
What do those do, though? I don't know.

>>46170701
Well with agility, even if you max agility you can always get away. With strength it's the damage stat. Intelligence the magic blasting stat. They all do one thing that they can do on their own. Not so skill.

Plus the wider issue is that Nobles have rock bottom strength and not good agility, meaning that they're very, very bad at doing anything with their Skill.

>>46170651
Thanks ComplimentAnon! It's nice to not have to deal with nitpickers only.

Combo-ing Mover: Teleporter with Kinetic Field or Lawbreaker or just buying Tech Tinker are ways you can open portals.

Shattered Limiter is basically easy mode, but it'll also let you replicate the original CYOAs OP powers, INCLUDING Kaleidoscope.

Sure, take all the Extras you like. Actually, with Missions having been introduced, all semblance of balance is probably thrown out the window anyway, heheh.

>>46170673
Refusing to clarify will only result in confused arguments. Especially when you've prompted rules "light" pvp between people who post on 4chan.

>>46170701
The argument here is that unless a stat directly adds +X to damage, it doesn't matter that it allows you to deal X damage more times than you would otherwise.

Also that the Skill class sucks, but that's a (somewhat) separate issue.

>>46170628
As said, think about how being skilled applies to a weapons user. would the skilled swordsman hit more often then the man with twohanded mace who crushes your skull in one swing?
Who would be more precise?

>>46170604
> the preferred Purge strategy is "party as hard as you can"

I assume you are speaking in refrence to the Culling in the CYOA terms? The thing to remember here is you can't trust anyone. Not only that, but Factions are explicitly outlawed, so there's nothing to support a party except personal trust.

You can definitely expect to be up against small groups, which generally means you should prioritize a means of escape, but you can't rely on having any allies yourself to back you up either.

>>46170702
Blinding and rays of purging for light, maybe some slight heat and fire themes
Same blinding, confusing, maybe something tantacle-esque and long ticking cold damage

>>46170761
You might be more precise, but you're not fast or strong. You can't get through his armor or dodge out of the way, and you need to be able to attack many times to equal his one blow, chance isn't on your side.

>>46170677
Thanks Anon.

>>46170827
Happy to help.

>>46170761
Despite increasing attack speed, Skill does not increase the speed of your individual attacks.

Also, accuracy/precision has no role in how likely you are to hit. Only the speed of individual attacks, which still isn't modified by skill.
>>46170798
Unless you've got a DM banning anyone unwilling to backstab you'll need to at least pretend that perhaps a group of those people will ally together.

>>46170798
Yet more points against the Culling.

>>46170759
>>46170726
I see what you mean. I guess it really boils down to how the CYOA creator described the stats.
I would of preferred it if he made it so Strength governed heavy weapons like greatswords and axes, Intelligence affected magic and Skill affected light weapons like normal swords, bows and katanas.

That way you would have 3 direct damage dealing stats for all types of weapons

>>46170989
I think i like it more as a Strength*Speed*Skill=damage, with Int and Def both contributing in their own way (via strategy or "tanking" and attacking through).

Unfortunately that does lead to a severe case of MAD, which magic and especially transformation characters can just ignore.

>>46170451
10/10

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>>46170521
I got you senpai.

>>46168464
Noble
3 stats
strength 5
defense 8
agility 8
intelligence 5
skill 6

1 willpower
2 martial arts +1 skill
3 athletics +1 agility
4 shockwaves +1 strength
7 Iron Mass +5 defense
8 arcane +1 intelligence
9 heal
10 fleet footed
11 soul spirit +1 agility
12 bloodlust +1 strength
13 binding +1 intelligence
14 blunt arms +1 strength
15 indomitable +1 strength
16 blessed +1 defense
17 recall +1 intelligence
18 pocketing +1 agility
19 stamina
20 ancient weapon (fist) +1 skill

Too many power gaming builds. Made a punch Noble that dabbles lightly in damage and healing magic with a lot of mobility options. I also have an vague ancient fist weapon thing. I still don't understand why weapons don't have a gold or renown or whatever section to buy items like this. Weapons aren't skills. Why is a skill tree giving you weapons or armor or anything not a skill?
>>46168493
bounties
wurm
dragon
strange
140

>>46171164
135 physiology: spider girl hybrid
130 gender: female
125 age: 13
>mid-upper thigh to toes covered in slick black chitin that is segmented at the joints (knee, toes, etc) with sharp points at the ends of the toes
>still human shaped figure no extra arms legs or spider butt
>mid-upper arm to fingertips covered in slick black chitin that is segmented at the joints (elbow, knuckles, etc) with finger tips forming shapr points
>eyes are a full slick black with no apparent iris or pupil
>hair and eyebrows are shiny black, hair starts long
>pale skin like a vampire or something
>canines look normal but poisonous fangs slide out of the gums over them at will
>small body, nearly flat chest
>in combat suddenly go from small soft looking spider girl to FUCK YEAH MUSCLE SPIDER GIRL
100 exempt because fuck the culling
95 forge because fist weapon
90 library because enchanting expert might help me enchant my fist weapon with an element or something
85 market because market
80 healing because healing
75 training because training
70 diner because free meals
65 hot springs because hot chicks
60 festival because fuck the goddess
55 club because joining parties
50 underground because black market
20 middle because house
5 servant because i aint cleanin that shit im a noble
0 attitude because theyre going to love their master

Have any of you guys played fire emblem?
Str and Def effect the damage you deal and take.
Speed (or agility) effect the amount of attacks you make per a turn and your evasiveness.
Skill effects your accuracy and crit chance (hitting vitals?)

If you have low skill you will miss more attacks because your handling of your weapon is poor. You lack form. If you have low str you might deal little to no damage because your blow was weak etc.

When I read the cyoa I assumed it was similar to fire emblem more or less and didn't think any one skill was useless.

>>46171164
>Why is a skill tree giving you weapons or armor or anything not a skill?
Apparently your Skill is just bound to how fancy your weapon is. It's dumb.

>>46171225
But Fire Emblem sucks.

>>46171225
Monster Hunter isn't Fire Emblem, silly.

Also the point is that skill isn't useful on its own. Only if you have high strength and agility. This ties into point 2, that Nobles have shit strength and meh agility, so as the Skill-focused class they're fucked.

>>46170451
source? Or is that the original

>>46170403
yes it should have
>>46170433
you can only assume the stat points from overdrive are always on and that the active skill adds on top of that temporarily because the author is shit at explaining most of the options

>>46171225

Wait. What if- in Traveler, what if you could ship your allies? For- Bonuses.

>>46171225
>assumed
There's your problem. Unless it's written down that things work in a certain way, you can't count on other people agreeing with you.

Especially when the Culling sort of requires them to work out how to kill your build harder. Being able to argue that 50% of your combat stats have no effect in combat makes that easy.

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>>46171267
edit of this.

>>46168319
I feel like I'm missing out on Field Leader due to my lack of knowledge of -mancies. Any place where I could look that shit up?

>>46171099
MAD? Mutually Assured Destruction?

Anyway, I think it would be better if damage was determined like Dark Souls. Most of the damage is determined by a weapon's scaling stat multiplied by your character's base stats.

A scimitar, for example might have an 'A' scaling in Dexterity, meaning it does more damage the higher your Dex. On the other hand a mace might have a 'B' scaling in strength, but staggers foes more often than a lighter weapon.
This allows both sides of a melee build to be effective and weapon/stat choice boils down to moveset, special effects and preference.

Your idea would lead to people simply picking whatever weapon has the highest damage and saying "fuck Skill" because it basically does the same thing as Strength or Agility but less.

>>46171294
Take time warp for example.

Does it give you +3 agility or do you get +3 agility when you activate the time warp skill? If the first then you get stats permanently and the skill does something on top of that, if the second then you have a situation where you could just put 3 points in agility and have the equivalent of timewarp all the time. This goes for overdrive and any of the other +stat skills.

The author needs to rewrite and redo a mass of the CYOA and add in a real item section so you can buy weapons, armor and items instead of getting them out of the skill tree for some fucked in the head reason.

>>46171339
>MAD? Mutually Assured Destruction?
It basically means that your class relies on too many stats to be effective.

>>46171324
There's any number of magic wikis, though I'm sure there's a general somewhere. Field Leader and the animals/drones/elderitch horrors are some of the most exploitable elements ever.

>>46171290
>Not performing Forbidden Shipping to Enhance Bloodlines and allow their (Timetravelling?) Progeny to Equip the Legendary Weapons.

Or just trying to breed the best waifu.

>>46171356
>instead of getting them out of the skill tree for some fucked in the head reason.
Needs more real Skills then.

>>46171380
I'm pretty sure they had a time war over this at some point.

>>46171356
I assumed that skills like Overdrive gave their boosts only while active.

>>46171356
Is the author even still alive? I've never heard of him.

>>46171415
Traveller covers Fire Emblem 4? That's amazing.


>>46171432
Again, lol, I hope you don't try participating in the PVP until you learn how to munchkin.

>>46171395
This I fully agree with. ANd the physical tree needs broken up and its stats spread out. Int needs a +3 inteligence somewhere too. If I'm not mistaken it's the only stat without a +3. There shouldn't be any +5s and there definitely shouldn't be skills that offer multiple +5s.

I suggest a melee tree, a ranged tree a general "weapon" tree (that includes moving catalyst to the weapon tree), a "utility" tree and keep the rest of the trees pretty much as is save for adjusting the stats.

Then put in a real item page with a currency to outfit your Hunter.

>>46171449
There's at least one guy posting like he things a random anonymous poster can make binding rulings about how stats work by making even vauger statements like "light magic works like light magic, don't you know what it does?!"

>>46171339
In this context it's Multiple Attribute Dependance

>>46171432
As I already wrote, it's either that or the other case. If it's the case you wrote, then you get the effects of something like overdrive WITHOUT the negatives simply by having 5 strength, this goes for time warp too because if what you're saying is right then having 3 agility is the equivalent of MAGICALLY SLOWING DOWN TIME.

One of these things makes more sense, and it's not the 3 agility = magically slowing down time one. THough in the instance that it just gives you stats to play with we go back to overdrive giving too many stats.

Either way the CYOA has serious problems.

>>46171450
I don't get it. If Overdrive gave a permanent boost it would be one of if not THE best skill simply for a major +10 boost to your stats.

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>>46168258
melee mode-5
grace-10
cleaning-15
cooking-20
erotica-25
loli mode-28

>>46171482
Another issue with the CYOA is that the magic spells like Fire and Light/Shadow aren't very well explained. He'd have been better off having skills equate to specific spells, because otherwise they really can just do anything.

The light/shadow ones are especially dumb because they offer two options with even less explanation than the ones that offer a single option. The lack of proper explanation is easily the peak problem with the CYOA.

>>46171539
I think you just worked out why people insist that the skill works exactly that way. And since you can't point at the line in the CYOA where it says they're wrong, you'll have to find some other way of dealing with all the cookie cutter builds that have it.

Like bitching on 4chan until the author fixes things. Or everyone gets tired of this and stops posting about it.

>>46171539
I agree. And yet if it's provided by the skill when active you could just ignore the skill and get 5 in those two stats and have the equivalent of that skill without any of the down sides. This is the problem with equating stats to this or time warp or any of the other supposed temporary effects.

When you say something like time warp only gives you the stats when active then you are also saying that 3 agility equals the magical ability to slow down time. You don't need the skill you just need 3 agility to equal it. And that's stupid.

Worse is that you have stats tied to multiple skills with no hint as to whether you get those stats always or only in some cases or whatever. Because the author couldn't be bothered to properly plan and explain their CYOA.

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Giant Mystic+Air Dragon

Magical Prowess
Agility Prowess
Corruption
Personal Guards - Champion x2, Chosen, Archmage
Empowerment
Companion - Giant Tempest(+Light) Dragon
Morphing - Petit Gaia+Illusion Bestial (Rabbit)
Final Form - Titanic Dark+Inferno Monster

Petit, Average.
Humanoid, Draconic.
2 Soldiers
2 Guards
Servants
Merchants
Recruiters
Engineers
Battle Mages
2 Sorcerers
Priests
Overseers
Sustenance
Training

Large
Hidden

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Postan' a classic. All pages after the first are spoilered because of lewd.

>>46171746
I'll warn you now, spoilers don't protect you from bans.

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>>46171718
What I want to do is tell aspiring heroes the sekret entrance to my domain, then help them get through with my adorable bunny form.

Then, at the end, betray them and kill them as a huge dragon.

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>>46171774
It doesn't work as well, since the creator removed "The Penetrator".

Do dropbox links count?

>>46171766
The mods also generally don't seem to bother checking the tiny-ass images in CYOAs, so unless shit is reported (and maybe even then), it doesn't get banned. That one's been posted many times.

>>46171746
Don't forget to post the old PDF version. The one you are posting now doesn't have any of the drawbacks, minions, powers, or curses, so you have to get those from the older one. Check 3 threads back for it if you don't have it.

>>46171265
It also hasn't been well defined by bliss and until it is all this is just speculation on everyone's part.

>>46171862
Nope. linking is fine

>>46171746


https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7bev57d2n2nz7wk/AACtLum4lwojIHsScNPQ192ja?dl=0

I have both verdsions and a edited PDF thats easier to read.

>>46171872
>>46171746

Here's an archive link to the newest pages
https://warosu.org/tg/thread/41311743#p41314723

and a cross-thread link to the older PDF
>>46141177

I'm going to repost my build in a minute

>>46171872
>The mods also generally don't seem to bother checking the tiny-ass images in CYOAs
I always figured it was being on the second page of a PDF, aka not visible on the thumbnail even when showing spoilers.

>>46168271
this is kinda shit

>>46171940
>>46171930
-2 medium wings
-3 demonic horns (+1 demonic)
-2 demonic tail (+1 demonic)
-1 charismatic tongue
-3 were
-5 venoms (all + kiss)
-2 demonic ears
-3 demoinc eyes (both)
-2 auras
-1 attractive face
-1 flesh
-3 tatooed (+1 demonic)

+2 attractive summons (x2)

+5 succubus
-0.5 age (20_
+0.5 height (5'4'')
-1 body type (skinny average feminine)
-1 D-cup
-1 improved anus
-1 improved vagina
-1 improved mouth
-3 stretchy
-2 tight
-1 collector
-9 incubus aspects: Dominant, retractable
-3 futa
+2 sensitive
-3 twins

Minions
-2 Anna Lott
-2 Riley Simms
-3 Mia Ramos
-3 Hina Ito

Curse:
lust
gender
pheromones
submissive
slut

magic
break bonds
eternal
change sex
true beast
expanded form (+6 form points)
trickery

Anna receives all she requires for full control. Granting me a total of +6 MP and +1 savage magic.
Rily is neither broken nor fully controlled, but she does suffer the effect of True Beast for me. She also gains the standard improved anus/mouth/vag/stretchy so I can recieve my +5mp anyway.
Mia is broken with Demonic Tail, Horns, Ears, Eyes, and Wings. Going full-demon and granting me +11MP
Hina gets her Improved mouth and Anus, how could I refuse such a request? She also gets an improved, stretchy, tight vagina. +9mp

All of them also suffer my curse of the Slut. Consider it the "full-corruption" route, they just can't help but fuck (or more accurately, be fucked by) just about everyone. And they love it.

As for me, well, "us", we just can't help but get what we want from human men. Well, they won't be men after were done, but they'll certainly enjoy the process. First a threesome, then a double dicking, impregnating the newly-female victim with her own seed

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>>46169746
>>46169774
>>46169783
right here

>>46171947
Same. It's about laziness, more or less.

>>46170827
[Rogue only options]
> Drawback
> Danger Bait [+1] Regardless of how far you attempt to remove yourself from the quarrels of the world, they just seem to follow you, villainous crews and forces of heroes battling overhead no matter where you go, no one said standing alone was fun.

>Perks
> Free Speaker [-1] From where you sit as an- independent party it's much easier to deal with both heroic and villainous individuals, enabling you to deal with all parties without (relative) bias.Bear in mind, truly faction-centric individuals will despise you.
> Running Man [-1] Your very good at getting away from the bad men with the lasers and the fighting and the who-hay, finding paths and evading conflicts that may or may not concern you with ease that speed based capes can only hope to accomplish.
> Liberté, égalité, fraternité [-2] You actually manage to live a normal life among those without supernatural abilities, blending among the common man. More people will be willing to stick up for you if you're confronted by a cape in public.

>>46170827
[Rogue only Missions]

Missions... Lesser.

> Better Part of Valor [+1] Get the dima-damn out of a fight involving capes by running away.
> Enforced Neutrality [+1] Make your stance on the world clear to other super humans.
> Sealing and Dealing [+1] Profit off of the conflict of capes and villains.
> Swiss Banker [+1] Deal with all parties in the local area and remaining external. Vital- but External.
> Outland Gentlemen [+1] Form a crew of other like-minded Rogues.
> Hunter's Bounty [+2] Covertly remove a maguffin from a hero or a Villain. For their own good of course.

Missions Greater

> Merchantman's Trust [+1] Extend your profitable contacts across a national level.
> Whisper Keeper [+1] Use information to maintain your edge over the costumed Lunatics.
> Established Player [+1] Establish yourself as an independent faction.
> Three Shots Per Rifle[+2] Deal with a group of heroes or villains attempting to subvert your interests.
> Renegades United [+2] Establish your first PMC group, with you at its head. Of course.
> The House Always Wins [+3] Establish your own independent powerhouse, be it a conclave- or something bigger.

>>46171544
While I like the idea of a guardian angel CYOA, it doesn't answer the most important question.

Can you waifu the angel?

>>46170071
>>46170651
Alrighty!

Name: Nowhere Man (NM)

Second Gen +8

2 Teleporter
+ 2 Lawbreaker (Multiverse Boundaries)
2 Timeless

Villain
Non-Cannon
Worm
2 Shardless

2 Plot Armor
1 Brain Bunker
1 Recruiter
1 Intimidation

+1 Untrustworthy

0 Tinker Taylor
+4 Crisis on Finite Earths
Bonus!(No extras gained):
Multiverse Theory
Endbringers Galore

So, pretty much mixed up the setting a whole bunch. I figured with multiple Earths battling each other it would probably be best to have no entity around, thanks Eidolon! The Earth my dude starts on is pretty different to cannon Earth what with weaker Endbringers and what not. But because of reasons there is totally an Earth out there that is part of the Multiverse war that is pretty much identical to cannon Worm, though it's without Zion.

The way these powers work in my mind is that with concentration NM can use his Lawbreaker to see through the boundaries of the Multiverse to the same geographical location but on other Earths (So if he's in Brockton Bay, he can see the same spot in alternate Brockton Bays). This is a kind of scouting tool for him, allowing him to look before he leaps as he can then use his Teleporter power to jump into the alternate universes.

Timeless because Timeless. Seriously dat heal and millions of other uses. I considered shattering it's limited so he could turn people into babies as an attack but... Well It's still Worm, plot armor feels pretty essential.

He's no Master of TIme and Space... But he's at least at journeyman level!

Ran out of space so will continue in next post...

>>46168464
Posting my Mighty Minmaximus build

Class, Warrior

STR [][][][][][][][][][]+{}{}{}{}{}
DEF [][][][][][][]+{}{}{}{}{}
AGI [][][][][]+{}{}{}{}{}
INT []
SKL [][]

Perk +3 stat points

Skills

PHYSICAL
>Tempered
>Willpower
>Enhanced
>Overdrive
>Toughness
>Flurry
>Sixth Sense
>Iron Mass
>Athletics
>Shockwaves

SPIRITUAL
>Bloodlust
>One With Nature
>Monster Within

WEAPONRY
>Blunt Arms

ETHEREAL
>Indomitable
>Blessed

Bounties
>Behemoth
>Wurm
>Dragon

Persons
>Beauty

Resources
>Middle Class House
>Forge
>Alchemy
>Library
>Training
>Diner
>Servant (dragon)
>knowledge
>Market
>Festival
>Healing
>Fortune

Sure its suboptimal, sure I'd be better of with a few more points in skill and a few less in strength, but I like to play by the philosophy "float like a cinderblock, hit like a cinderblock"

Now, who wants to team up and fight crime?

>>46172203
That's heresy.

>>46172225

The downside to his powers is that he really doesn't belong anywhere... And people know it instinctively. Working with already established organizations is pretty much right out. Even his own universe will disown him and assume that he's just a spy for an Alternate Earth. People just naturally feel that something is 'off' about him, that he doesn't belong.

If he finds the right people though, the outsiders, the losers, the weirdos and often the 52s and shows them kindness, gives them a home, they tend to join him with a level of loyalty he probably wouldn't have had in those other organizations. So he's making a new home for himself and others on an alternate and empty Earth.

-

Cooooool. I like this dude. Depending on the nature of the multiverse, he possibly has Waifu Mode and will go collect the various alternate Skitters! The general idea is his plan is to start from nothing and build up a safe haven for all kinds of people that would probably otherwise slip through the cracks. There would be all kinds of problems with this obviously, aggressive capes, gaining the attention of various worlds or Cauldron, people hunting him down for his abilities to use in the war... But if he somehow managed to build up his little world into a nice wonderful place full of people that love and care about each other I'm sure everything would totally work out for him Until an Endbringer-lite rises up out of the Ocean and attacks his home.

Thanks for the CYOA WormAnon!

>>46172257
Well, can you at least hold hands?

>>46172127
Danger Bait is sort of covered in Conflict Driven.

Free Speaker works, though I'd probably try to work it where you need to gather some rep for people to take you seriously, either that or you gotta show off your power.

Running Man and Liberté, égalité, fraternité are good.

>>46172138
Outland Gentleman works, Hunter's Bounty is doable but maybe with some adjustments, because it sounds like a Merc thing and Mercs are considered "villains" in Worm. But Bounty Hunting's good, though if it's a career, you might get lumped as a hero or vigilante.

The other 4 Lesser Missions wouldn't really work for various in-universe reasons, although I think diffusing a local conflict could be a good Rogue mission.

For greater missions, I like the idea of establishing your own power houses. That sounds good. I think another thing that can be added is establishing neutral ground.

>>46172225
I like the idea of a dimensional traveler.

You know, a world with weaker Endbringers might even be a "better" world, because they don't attack the same place twice (unless they've run out of options) and their attacks could theoretically keep the population down while motivating the construction industry?

Just a thought, but yeah, dimensional travel's good. Sort of a Kaleidoscope-lite.

>>46172493
Of course. Nothing is purer.

>>46172439
I dig the idea of going across dimensions just to collect waifus

>>46172496
Take what you will, I've thrown my hat into the ring.

>>46168413
Jokes on you, I'm already Blind. Last option for me!

>>46172541
Thanks for the contributions Anon! I'm leaning toward Rogues being part of an expansion pack rather than adding on to the current CYOA.

>>46171544
I'm just laughing at how utterly fucked this angel would be against Hastur, even with all the options on the list.

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>>46170071
>>46169675
>Biodata
Name: "Triple A"
Villain
Non-canon
Pre-Worm
Shardless [-2]
Brain Bunker [-1]
Reputable [-1]
Recruiter [-1]
Plot Armor [Free]

>Game Mode
Skitter Mode

>Initial Powers
Off The Record [-1]
Mr. Celophane [-1]
-----
>Later Powers [In Order of Acquirement]
Timeless [-2]
Doctorate [-2]
Event Triggerer [-2]
Cheater McCheaterson Jr. [-2]

>Drawbacks/Missions [In Order of Occurrence]
You Are Number 4(21)
Bank Robbery [+1]
Hench 4 Life [+1]
Fire Prevention + Party Crasher's Club [+2]
Bloodying Noses [+2]
Band of Brobbers [+1]
Local Boy [+1]
Marked [+3]
Slaughtermansion 9 [+2]

While additional missions could have been taken, by the time Cheater McCheaterson Jr. is unlocked there is no further need of powers.

Triple A starts as a lowly henchman in a small-time gang, smoking copious amounts of weed to pass the time. But one day he discovers he's practically invisible; this was not actually his powers, he was just high as fuck. Another day he discovered he really WAS practically invisible, which blew his mind. So as an astute entrepreneur, he immediately goes to rob a bank. And by rob he casually waltzed in and took the money out of the drawers and left.

Triple A thought about his life at this point. Did he really want to spend his life working for his fatass of a boss (or as AAA calls him, Triple X)? No, he'd be his own man - his own boss!

From humble beginnings and through wacky adventures, he rose to become a terrifying force in the world.

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Here's some /pol/ approved cyoa to cleanse ourselves of some anon's sick cuck fetish.

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>>46169746
Man, usually I'm all lawful good (or at least good of some sort) all the time but I'm really digging chaotic neutral. I'll follow Ezaja and prove that videogames can be art. Honorable mentions to chaotic good vedara, but ezaja lets me be me.

From merchantbro I'm getting:
>Lods of emone x1
>Cantrip
>pimped out crib
>and a pet floofy dragon like pic related, but maybe a bit cuddlier. Just kinda because.

The idea is to make myself as irrelevant as possible to the shitstorm that's about to brew from all the other disciples, and spend my time in comfort making video games and vr porn

>>46172863
Hunger, poverty, disease, mlp, and 4chan.

Easy.

>>46172863
What happens if I simultaneously kill religion and atheists?

>>46168271
I'm going to talk about one of the only GOOD choices here. Blue Box, Sister, my original blind pick.

So she's like me, except better, prettier, and sexually attracted to me regardless of what I look like. Fine, so that also means her personality is like me.

That "thinly veiled flirting" shit ain't gonna fly for either of us. I give it an hour, TOPS, before it's made perfectly clear that we both want it and there's no logical reason why the fuck not since nobody even knows were "related". After all, if there's one thing in this world we absolutely DO NOT want, it's kids, so we have even less to worry about with each other than we would with other people.

So I end up with a girl who's honest, straightforward, trustworthy, and likes what I like (vidya, mainly, with an interest in /tg/ stuff as well). Normally marriage wouldn't really be a priority, but in this case I can't see why not. Of course I'm probably one of the few people around here that doesn't actively hate myself, I just hate absolutely everyone else since they can't live up to my standards of a decent fucking person.

>>46173476
Everyone is agnostic-agnostic and nobody cares to talk about spiritual-related things ever again.

>>46173511
If you don't follow the terminology "Agnostic-agnostic" is basically "I don't know and don't care". As opposed to "gnostic-agnostic" which religiously rejects religion on the basis that we don't know anything and shouldn't be making claims to the contrary.