>basic lands are literally not viable in any format What

As a Pauper player, I find this offensive.

My casual playgroup is saddened by this.

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jesus christ /tg/

>>46161331
They're fine for mono-red burn.

>>46161331
merfolk tend to use a lot of them

>>46161331
please tell me this is bait

Eh, Nicfit, Stax, things like that run a fair number of basics in legacy.

>>46161331
You say this until Blood Moon hits the fucking table

>>46161331
i play casual, is this true? I mean sure my white-blue deck has a lot of dual lands but outside of that mono lands seem ok.

>>46161331
i use them in EDH with stormtide leviathan as a win con

>>46161331
>what is wasteland
>what is bloodmoon

Fucking shitters.

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>Playing casual with friends
>Put together a 71 card RW ally deck because I just traded for the RW guys.
>Go 8-3 against my friend who played a RB and UB eldrazi decks and 6-2 against my friend who plays a RG Aggro deck
>Offer friend to trade him my only 4 copies of pic so he doesn't get mana-screwed so often (I buy packs like a scrub).
>"Nah, I always draw the land I want eventually"
>

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>>46161911
That matryoshka doll style shitsmanship is reminding me of pic related.

>>46161331
Almost every competitive deck in eternal formats runs basics. Blood Moon is a thing, Path to exilie is a thing, fetching for less damage is a thing, wasteland, tecedge and ghost quarter are things.

>>46162107
And yet, our shop's legacy scene regularly uses ghost quarter as a strip mine. It is weird. Like, I see people playing against Nicfit and Veteran Explorer does and they don't even move. They run like, 1 or 2 basics, most of them.

>>46161331
Modern decks always have about 5 or so basics in them cause of path and blood moon

>Basic lands are literally only viable in decks that cost less that $400
Fixed.

Mono colored decks generally run 5-10

Two color decks like 3-5

Three color decks like 2-4

So they are viable but you don't usually run too many because other lands are just better more often and you have limited deck slots

>>46162692
Man, you're pretty bad at MTG, aren't you?

>>46162761
>>46162422
>>46162107
>>46161797
>>46161670

>>46162798
So tell me this. How much does the mana in any single competitive deck cost?

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All nonbasic lands have been BANNED in every format.
What happens?

>>46162816
Depends on the format. Currently a lot, but it should drop soon for standard at least.

>>46162868
People can now suddenly afford to play other colors.

>>46162868
Every legacy deck has 4 ghost quarter 4 wasteland and 4 price of progress.

>>46162902
oh wait nvm i read that as basics were banned.

>>46162890
>A lot
A more specific cost range would be appreciated.

>>46162216
>legacy
>strip mine
well theres your first problem. Also i play storm and basics are fetched more often than my duals.

Mono-color decks happen in all formats. Also for some decks, it's better to have a land that doesn't come in tapped or ping you for putting it on the field at the expense of being single color. I ran a few forests instead of Breeding Pools when I was running a RUG combo deck in RtR/Theros standard.

>>46162975
He said that Ghost Quarter is functionally a strip mine (aka nobody's running basics so it's just destroy a land), not that people are running strip mine

>>46161331
>in any format

Last time I checked "draft" was still a format.

>>46163029
Ohhh, im just retarded. Carry on.

>>46161331
>does not understand there are more formats than legacy, modern.
>Does not understand what 'viable' means

8/10, I replied

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>>46163809
>basics aren't viable in Legacy

>>46163809
I actually don't understand what you mean. I play 12 basics and 5 fetches in my legacy deck and it is proper tournament list.

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>>46161797
>wasteland
>basic land

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>>46162761
>limited deck
>2-4 basic lands
>ever
Maybe drafting Dragon Maze only lol

>>46165010
You completely missed the point. The presence of Wasteland is a reason to run basic lands.

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>>46165130

>>46165010
He means Waste Land, not Wasteland.

>>46165171
Are you trolling or something? What?

>>46165179

remember, anon, you are dealing with mtg players. trolling is being a little generous, you can call a retard a retard

he doesn't realize that wasteland destroying nonbasics is a reason that basics are still played in the eternal formats

>>46165171
Wasteland's ability to destroy nonbasic lands encourages players to run basic lands. Are you so stupid that you can't make this connection?

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>>46165172
That makes sense. But a 1 or 2 of in colorless Eldrazi? You can hardly call that viable.

>>46161331
Don't lie.

>>46161331
I don't know, almost all the top-tier decks in most formats run Island. 2stronk, Riot pls nerf.

>>46161331
pretty much needed for new duel lands in SOI

>>46161331
in modern there is infect, Merfolk, Burn, Jund, Junk, Hatebear, Zoo, and Living End. All these deck run from mostly basic to 2-3 basics.

>>46161331
>playing constructed
>2016

oh boy

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>>46161331
My Thalias, Vials, Stoneforges,Revokers and Swords of Fuck and You take issue with that.

Working on getting a full foil playset at the moment.

>>46161331
They're valid in hobo magic.

>>46161331
Everything is viable in vintage

Legacy lists tend to run 1x of appropriate duals (unless someone is balling out of control or an old fag or running proxies), a fuckton of fetches and the rest of the lands are basics. Wasteland, GQ, Price of Progress, Blood Moon and Back to Basics fucking hurt man. And trust me, it sucks letting path of exile have no downside

Pauper relies on fetches, citp lands and the rest are basics.

Draft is self-explanitory
Same with Cube
EDH land bases are mostly basics

>memedern
>standard

>>46161331
>what is limited

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>>46161331
>mountains
>valakut
>not viable

>>46161331
>He doesn't play limited

Why the fuck wouldn't you have a bunch of basic lands in commander? Especially with mono color decks.

Limited to 1 of each nonbasic and a lot of cards operating off basic lands makes fully nonbasic lands difficukt

>>46171653
Lets take that a step further.

>Scapesift in ANY of its forms
>All non-basics

Please choose one and only one.

>>46162868
Mono Red Burn and Mono Green Elves take over every format

>>46171968
Merfolk would be a contender too as well as MBC
and dredge

>>46163861
>>46164716

Disregard I suck cocks,

The only decks I've ever seen not run basics have been a legacy and modern deck, and I suspect those were shit anyhow.

>>46172339
No cavern makes a fast chalice devastating if they answer vial.

>>46162928
In most deck the mana base is the most expensive part, just go on a site like mtg top 8 that give you the price of the deck and the cards, the manabase can make nearly 80% of the price of a deck.

>>46175579
This is why in commander I play Mono color. Fuck expensive fetch lands.

>>46170731
Good taste

>>46175976
>commander
>not wanting to search out lands as much as possible
The format already has highly inconsistent decks, why not try to mitigate that?

>>46179332
>"deck-thinning"
ISHYGDDT