How would present day humans defend themselves against the

Guns. Lots of guns.

>>44403642
>How would present day humans defend themselves against the supernatural?
The games you are looking for are Delta Green and Hunter: The Vigil.

Fire works against everything.

Everything.

And if the supernatural are resistant against bullets and fire?

>>44403706
Back to the basics, head over to the local church and contact the priest there.

Though really, fire always works.

The Scientific Method.

>Ask a Question
>Do Background Research
>Construct a Hypothesis
>Test Your Hypothesis by Doing an Experiment
>Analyze Your Data and Draw a Conclusion
>Communicate Your Results

But with a shit ton more shooting, burning, hacking and slashing, whatever gets the job done.

>>44403706
Are they resistant to Hellfire missiles?

>>44403706
>Resistant?
Use fucking more!
Everything counts in large amounts.

>Immune?
Explosives.
Chemicals.
Brute force trauma.
... Nuclear weaponry.

We're talking Scooby Doo here. A liberal application of bait and traps should suffice.

>>44403719
Checkmate atheists

>>44403642
I prescribe fire, and lots of it

>>44403746
I keked

>>44403642
>panic
>worship
>attack
>ignore

same as everything else

>>44403642
>How would present day humans defend themselves against the supernatural?

It'd be rationalized and methodized to a point where even the mysticism of the supernatural would be explained away.

It might depend on the type of supernatural, but bear in mind that most people are not only deeply superstitious, but, when they think nobody's listening or judging, actually believe in magic. I think humanity could deal, and it would probably be a really affirming experience in its own way for humanity as a whole.

>>44403642
In general or going by region?

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>>44403642

>>44403642
If nothing else, there's always FOOF. Nothing survives FOOF.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dioxygen_difluoride

>>44403642
What kind of supernatural are we talking here?

>>44403694
Not against Water Elementals.

>>44404622
You ever been boiled?

>>44404637
Great, now you're fighting a steam elemental! Instead of killing you with water pressure, it'll just scald you to death.

>>44404622
Then clearly you aren't using enough!

Hit it with an explosive fire, it'll evaporate. If it hasn't been finished off then hit it again.

It's the sort of supernatural that gets spoken about in folklore and urban myths and the like

>>44404653
I'll sucks it up with a vacuum cleaner or trap it insert a freezer.

>>44403642
with atheism and scientists trying too much

Many would die trying things they see in movies and TV.

>>44404717
I'm sure that'll work on at least 80% of the stuff and 15% of the other stuff will probably only need a little bit of help from non-scientists.

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>>44404717
>atheism and scientists trying too much
so you concede that there is no such thing as the supernatural in the real world

The old standards.

Fire, salt and cold iron. Luckily we now have vastly improved production capacities for all these, as well as better ways to utilise them.

Also our improved communication systems mean we would be able to organise ourselves and spread useful information much quicker than the terrified peasants of ages past.

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>>44403642
I punch it!

Is it still moving?

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>>44403724

>>44403642
Americans would probably use guns. Europeans might be allowed knives if they haven't already been seized in the name of public safety.

>>44403642
SCP is a pretty good example of it.
Or more about how they cant do it at all, and are stuck containing it instead.

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>shoot them with guns
If that somehow fails
>shoot them with tanks, jets and helicopters
If that somehow fails
>shoot them with stronger missiles
If that somehow fails
>bomb them with fancy shit, like nukes, thermobaric bombs, bunker busters, white phosphorous,...
Ain't nothing surviving that

>>44405017
>nukes
against an enemy without armies or settlements? You gonna start nuking cities and forests till you feel safe?

>>44403642
the same way we deal with everything alse, light the fuckers up

>>44403642
By turning to religion and meditation and/or going through all known lore, rituals and superstitions.

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>>44405032

>>44404622
So fire's good against fire elementals then?

>>44405032
To be frank anon, when you are dealing with 80% of the supernatural shit you want to put it down and make shure it wont get up againe no matter the cost

>>44405110
Eh, it seemed too obvious to say.

Honestly though I feel that we'd harness some of the supernatural forces in order to fight the more malevolent threats. Not everything beyond mortal ken is necessarily evil.

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>>44405032
That's why I also offered more localized types of bombs m8

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>>44403642

this sounds like a job for... DEVIL-MAN!

>>44403642
Iron Chariots

>>44403642
we nail it to a plank

find the rules, laws, and cause-effect mechanisms that work in the supernatural, and use science to pwn it, as anything else.

>>44406057

Science sure has pwned everything that exists in the natural world.

>>44403642

Salt, steel, fire and blood.
All things we possess in staggering amounts.
I'm pretty sure no fey creature can even look at a city.

>>44404909
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country

Educate yourself. America certainly has a lot more guns, mostly handguns, but many European countries still have a large amount of firearms.

>>44405064
Great filename.

>>44405995

im sorry wtf is this?

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>>44406504

The UK Newspaper The Guardian has a sort of blogging microplatform that can get... a bit weird.

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>>44406575

Some may ask themselves: How weird?

The Answer is Quite

>>44405995
>>44406575
>>44406583
Jesus Christ Britain, get your shit together.

>>44406663

its like the ramblings of a meth head

>>44406663
These are edits collectively called Comment Is Weird, the originals are called Comment Is Free and they're not weird, just dull.

I'm reminded of a Mystery Inc. type horror/cthulu crossover sort of game we played. We each of us had different sorts of ways our characters preferred to viewing and dealing with the supernatural. Unfortunately things got kind of magical realm when we found out that fucking the supernatural things worked better at "capturing" or pacifying them than trying to trap or kill them.

Turned out the most effective weapon in the human arsenal, was our genitalia.

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>>44406930
Holy shit anon, how did you GM let that happen.

>>44407111
When it came down to the deciding moments of whether or not to kill us, the DM was too soft when presented with an earnest effort to beg for our lives or otherwise survive, even if that effort was offering sex.

It started with just one person out of last ditch desperation, but eventually became "Scooby Doo: Monster Romance" the game. I mean, one of the guys managed to land himself a slasher horror monster wife and eventual offspring, for goodness sake. I suppose in some sense for some of the other players it became rather sinister, when finding out about a new case or situation, and going into the situation with the intent to give the supernatural being the D or the V.

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>>44407197
>>44406930

>>44403642
Depends on it, supernatural is from shitty crap like hairy snakes (yes, that's a mythological creature, it's a snake. But hairy. Wow.) to nearly omnipotent angels whose sight alone makes lesser beings die.

>>44405110
Well people did use rotting corpses in sieges against humans so...
>Don't touch that fire! You might get infected with ash or cinders off it

Throw everything at it till it dies.
Throw it into space.
Industrial grade anything, furnace, compactor, blender, cement mixer, or frezzer.

>>44405110
Yes, explosives are used to extinguish oil well fires by dispersing the burning materials and temporarily depriving the area of oxygen.

>>44405110
>>44404622

>Implying either fire or water elementals are a common supernatural/horror trope

>>44409093
The bigger question that comes to mind is how do you set fire to a ghost, them being intangible and all.

>>44404622

>Not against Water Elementals.

Didn't use enough fire. Water Elementals become a hot mess when exposed to enough heat to vaporize them.

>>44405110

DIDN'T USE ENOUGH FIRE. Enough fire would create a vacuum by eating all the air in the room, which would cause the Fire Elemental to burn out along with the fire.

>>44409216
Fire kills ghosts. Or at least, burning down a building they're in.

>>44403642
Tell the supernatural to stop being such dicks and go about it like the rest of us.

cunts.

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>>44403642
Better question:

How we defend against the supernatural defending against the present day?

>>44409242
I don't see why a ghost mightn't keep on haunting the ashes and half-melted supports regardless.

>>44409297
Well because the fire would actually just kill it. Or send it on to the afterlife, what have you.

>>44409313
How so? I thought most often ghosts don't actually physically interact with the world in any way, they just use their magic or psychic powers or whatnot to fuck around with people while they moan and carry on.

>>44403706
Use a good wood chipper.

>>44409297
Ghosts stay because they're attached. They're echoes of memories in the wood of the houses they used to live in.

>>44403645
/thread

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If the supernatural thing in question has form, like a simple monster, literally just keep punching burning holes through it until it's dead. If it's magically resistant to said holes, we would research and engineer solutions that would hurt it. Technology always finds a way if given enough time and funding.

If the supernatural thing in question is incorporeal or immaterial, like a ghost, we would search for ways to trap and contain it. At that point we would acknowledge spooky shit exists then contact religious leaders who most likely know how to deal with it.

If were talking offensive magic, like fireballs or earthquakes, we would just see them as weapons and kill or capture the user if he/she is going around causing trouble.

Like someone already said, SCP is a pretty solid example of what humans could do when faced against impossible things.

>>44409726
>If the supernatural thing in question has form, like a simple monster, literally just keep fucking it until it's civil.

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>>44403645

Panzerfausts

>>44403642
I hate pictures like this. You could switch the cubes and it would be just as poignant.

>>44403642
I love pictures like this. You could switch the cubes and it would be just as poignant.

>>44403642
I'm ambivalent about pictures like this. You can't switch the cubes because it would lose the meaning.

>>44403642
I'm indifferent about pictures like this. You could switch the cubes around, for all I care.

>>44403642
I furious at pictures like this. You could switch the cubes and it would make so much more sense.

>>44403642
lawyers. lots of lawyers. politicians too. litigate and legislate everything into nice little boring boxes.

why do you immediately assume they're out to kill you?

>>44403706
>yeah, they're arbitrarily immune to our most powerful weapons

I dunno, sneeze on 'em, sprinkle with holy water, and if that doesn't work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ibnHGWR9pU

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>>44403642

Punching works. Shooting too.

>>44405032
>till you feel safe
If by "Feel safe" you mean "the supernatural" is a smoking crater, then yes.

ITT: Op poses a question, and then dodges around all of the most obvious answers until somebody says shit like "get a billion priests and have them all bless the shit out of it"

>>44411000
>op posts a stupid question then argues with everyone

So it's a /tg/ thread?

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>>44403642
>At that point, 20 microseconds after initiation, the temperature was 600 million degrees Fahrenheit and yet the outside of the warhead was only just beginning to disintegrate. Gamma radiation from the nuclear reactions had already radiated up to 1,300 feet in every direction. A region of space about the size of a small angel over the main body of the Incomparable Legion Of Light now held the equivalent explosive energy of 1.2 megatons. This enormous release of gamma radiation had been absorbed by the surrounding air, heating it to a point where it released radiation itself. This formed a glowing ball of gas that was already 400 feet across and yet was continuing to expand at many times the speed of sound. Oddly, the center remained extremely hot while the temperature of the outer part fell as it pushed the surrounding air away. The heat radiated by the outer layer had produced an initial flash of light as bright as the Sun to the observers at the Third Armored Division 25 miles away, now it generated a blast wave that separated from the fireball surface. This travelled at ten times the speed of sound and pushed the air away before creating a partial vacuum behind it. The blast wave reflected off the ground and the surrounding hills, reinforcing itself in some areas, cancelling itself in others to produce a crazy-quilt pattern of blast effects on the hapless Incomparable Legion Of Light below.

>And so it was that the prophecies were fulfilled. The Sun Of Man was indeed rising over Heaven.

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>>44409242

No, you have to steal and burn the sheets the ghosts wear and steal and melt down their rattling chains and turn the melted metal into an heirloom that is used at least once a month for a century at which point the heirloom will come alive and the ghost will be trapped inside of it and THEN you destroy the heirloom.

>>44412860
that's pretty convenient that forces that never had an army will now suddenly have an army that makes it easier to fight them using WMDs.

Crazy how convenient that is.

>>44403645
I can't imagine guns will be much effective against ghosts or something like a wendigo

>>44414250
Yeah, man

>>44409358
it feeds off the energy till it has "enough" (I guess) to breach through the barrier between our world and the next, then it fucks off. hence, cold spots

>>44403642
they woudn't.

we'd let them into our countries, then we'd wonder why the death rates went up and why we have so many odd STD's and PTSD 'ex-girlfriends'

and we'd praise them for being 'so exotic'

>>44414250

>How do defeat ghosts in a modern setting

It really shouldn't be necessary to state who you would call.

>>44403642
Guns.

Blaming the ethnicity you personally dislike the most.

>Demons from hell? Ghosts? I bet the Jews/Niggers/White-man/China-man did this...

>>44405271
>how to win a fistfight with a broken arm.webm

>>44406663
>Californian
>school teacher
>mfw a 4th grade teacher and the reading interventionist are talking about which crystals are good for healing which emotional problems

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>>44414250
>ghosts
proton packs.
100 replies, am i getting old?

>>44407197
Sounds like a good time.

Bunk

>>44420175
>>Californian
Therein lies the problem.

>>44403642
Internet research to find weakness, throw every option at them til it dies or goes away

>>44403642
meme someone into becoming the god emperor so he can take care of them for us

>>44403642
What length of time would it take to train a group sufficiently enough to effectively deal with the supernatural?

Would you make public the existence of the supernatural?

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>>44403642
http://www.scp-wiki.net/

>>44422713
Where all personnel gets shat on?

How did they even contain the monsters?

>>44422780
The movie is pretty much "THE GUB'MINT DID ALL THOSE HORROR THINGIES THAT KILLED EVERYBODY BECUZ MUH ELDER GODS" and the clincher is literally every government does it so it's not just the USA.

>>44422929
With how shithouse those troops preformed its a fucking wonder they ever got to contain them

>>44403642
When the threat first shows it self an agency will be set up and given an amount of resources money personal and facilities based on the size of the perceived threat.
The agency will attempt to first understand the basics of the supernatural forces they're combating.
After gathering samples and specimens the agency will release effective anti supernatural weaponry to the military who will use it to combat supernatural threats on a larger scale if its that big a problem.
The agency may receive help from people who know of the supernatural or supernatural beings who are friendly to humanity

>>44423370
they had to deal with all of them at once one.
if they had to deal with one it would have been better

>>44403642
Peasant mob

>>44423452
Surely they would've been well prepared for that contingency

>>44423552
maybe they got complacent

Lovecraft is already modern. You could literally update almost all of his books to modern day, without changing anything, and it would look natural.

>>44404653
So the only elementals you want to summon is Water and Air, right?
Fire will eventually run out of fire, since its plasma, and Earth is only around so long its solid.

>>44403642
If survival horror has taught me anything it's that running around the supernatural and shooting it with a shotgun solves everything.

Immune to shotguns? That's what rocket launchers are for.

>>44404604
A good candidate, but chlorine trifluoride is even more fun.

>"It is, of course, extremely toxic, but that's the least of the problem. It is hypergolic with every known fuel, and so rapidly hypergolic that no ignition delay has ever been measured. It is also hypergolic with such things as cloth, wood, and test engineers, not to mention asbestos, sand, and water-with which it reacts explosively. It can be kept in some of the ordinary structural metals-steel, copper, aluminium, etc.-because of the formation of a thin film of insoluble metal fluoride which protects the bulk of the metal, just as the invisible coat of oxide on aluminium keeps it from burning up in the atmosphere. If, however, this coat is melted or scrubbed off, and has no chance to reform, the operator is confronted with the problem of coping with a metal-fluorine fire. For dealing with this situation, I have always recommended a good pair of running shoes."

Chemistry fuck yeah