What's the strongest pure melee class in 3.5? (Besides

Cleric or Druid

Warblade/some tome of battle class is probably the est you can do if you want no spellcasting.

>>44169288
Cleric, followed by druid

>>44169288
With magic: Wizard, then Cleric, then druid

With pseudo-weaboo fightan magics: Warblade, then swordsage, then crusader

Without magics: uh... they're all pretty terrible, really

>>44169288
Fighter (Dungeoncrasher Variant)

>>44169288
Lightspeed monk probably.

>>44169288
Well, if you're going pure melee with no weeaboo, you've got a few options:
- Tripper fighter
- Charger fighter (Battle leap and all that)
- Intimidation fighter (Zhentarim - shit against almost everything at high levels but occasionally unbeatable)

But they're all pretty much shit. You'd be better off taking leadership and getting a wizard cohort.

>>44169442
>Without magics: uh... they're all pretty terrible, really
Water Orc leap attacking shocktrooper frenzied barbarian/paladin->fist of raziel, with the orc charging feats.
Seriously, a charger paladin can hit stupid hard.

>>44171111
Oh wow, however could a lowly color spray/grease/silent image beat such a mighty creature?

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>>44171281
>Did you know a caster would win in 3.5e?
Wow

Really, anon?

Really?

>>44170416
Que?

>>44169442
>Without magics: uh... they're all pretty terrible, really

You're never going to rise higher than Tier 4 in terms of flexibility, but a suitably optimized tripmonkey/ubercharger can be very, VERY good at the one thing they can do.

>>44171335
Well, an intimidation fighter stands a half-chance of beating a wizard if they get the jump on them, just by stacking fear conditions.

>>44170416
I like to play a Barkgrowth Berserker.

>>44169299
Do you know what "pure melee" means? It generally means no magic.

My bet would probably be on an optimized barbarian with crazy-ass prestige classes. They can even outclass the ToB classes in terms of pure damage output.

>>44172780
>Do you know what "pure melee" means? It generally means no magic.
No, it generally means someone who purely fights in melee. It makes no statement about the use of magic or not. Both the cleric and the druid make fantastic melee combatants that far outshine any nonmagical class.

If you want to change the criteria to strongest nonmagical classes the barbarian doesn't get anywhere close. For pure damage output some sort of Hulking Hurler is probably going to top the chart but as far as overall strength probably the Warblade.