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Custom mtg card r8 and make! http://magicseteditor.sourceforge.net/
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Sure, why not?
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>>43834738
Too much going on. Lose the discard-token ability and it's neat.
"amount of artifacts" should be "number of artifacts"
>>43834940
I raffed.
Colorless tokens don't need devoid.
>>43834967
I like it, even though the -1/-1 effect is a little overkill. I'd give nonartifacts defender or some shit.
>>43835004
"return an artifact from your graveyard" should be "return target artifact card from your graveyard"
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>>43834738
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>>43835619
Drop the anti-trample ability. Give it a fatter ass if you feel like you need the green hate, but that kind of ability feels tacked on.
Flavor wise, shouldn't death counters send the creature to the graveyard or make them a zombie (or similar subtype)? Seems like they're closer to petrification counters
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I made these a while ago.
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>>43835830

Crap, forgot the picture. Wasn't sure about mana costs.
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>>43835818
i think i named them death counters to fit along with the creatures name but now that you say it it does sound odd
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I made this one recently. Thoughts?
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>>43835858
>Screw Attack with that bow or quiver whatever from Innistrad
Lmao
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>>43835961
That's literally a better version of Squadron Hawk

Take away first strike, make it only red beast and remove the unlimited quantity and it becomes fine

Anyone remembers when SwordHawks were a fucking thing?
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>>43834738
MSE has an export function so you don't get all those lines.
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>>43835961
kek
>>43835050
I really like that soulhost thing. Is this part of a wider set you're making or is it a stand alone?
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Is it acceptable to use MSE to make full-art basic lands using Bob Ross paintings as the art?
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>>43836492
Overpowered as fuck
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>>43836416
Thank you. It's going to be a recurring theme in the set. The flavor is that you need souls to create mechas in this world.
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>>43836387
that's the joke. in morrowind cliff racers would gang up on you in huge amounts
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>>43835961
I'd make it only black, remove first strike, and drop the power by 1. Probably want to move it to common and increase the cmc by 1, so that people have enough of them to actually make a deck and so that it's less abusable.
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>>43835050
Terance needs to reveal the card, and you need to make it cost a minimum of 1 soul counter or you can pull out every land in your deck for free.

I'd suggest:
"Remove one or more soul counters from Terance of the Republic: Search your Library for a card with converted mana cost equal to or less than the number of soul counters removed this way, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle your library. Use this ability only when you could cast a sorcery."

And I assume The Grey Dragon has the only ability that puts a soul counter on stuff?
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cost?
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Yes, it needs work. Basically messing about with seething song and friends. I tried to think about what you actually can do with the end result mana from these costs:
RR or 2R or 4 colorless to make 5 colorless vs 8 colorless or 6R or 4RR to make 2 of every color.
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>>43836734
Giving this flashback is really unnecessary.
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Too OP?
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>>43836743
The theme was sticking together effects on sorceries/instants. Flashback is kinda cool on "choose X or Y" cards because you can pick something different on each casting. Entwine just increases the possible options.

It was also an effort to make a sorcery from the random "robot war" art I found.
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>>43836764
Fucking hell mate write a novel next time
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>>43836777

Seems a bit broken.
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>>43834738
been working on a bunch of different card ideas in my free time tell me what you guys think
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>>43834738
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>>43836974
>Sure
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>>43836974
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>>43836914

I'd run it.
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>>43836990
I'd much prefer if this didn't do every attacking creature
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>>43836764
>10 mana
>takes an average of 10 turns to activate
Why would anyone ever play this
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>>43837026
Both sides of this spell are kind of working against each other. You want a sufficiently large number for X so you can hit as many cards as possible but if you make X too large then you'll never be able to cast anything.
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>>43837149
My bad it should say X or less
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>>43835961 How about:

Cliff Racer (1)(2/B)(R)
Creature - Drake (Uncommon)
Flying
(1), T: Target Drake gains first strike or +1/+0 until end of turn.
(1)(R), Discard two cards: Put a token onto the battlefield that's a copy of Cliff Racer.
Whenever a card named Cliff Racer is put into a graveyard from anywhere put a token onto the battlefield that's a copy of Cliff Racer.
Grandeur -- Discard a card named Cliff Racer: Draw three cards, then discard a card.
A deck can have eight cards named Cliff Racer.
2/1
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>>43837302
Too many abilities. However, having up to eight of them makes more sense.
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>>43837376

Up to eight Cliff Racers, that is.
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>>43837376
Cliff Racer (1)(2/B)(R)
Creature - Drake (Uncommon)
Flying, first strike
Madness (B)
Grandeur -- Discard a card named Cliff Racer: Draw three cards, then discard a card.
A deck can have eight cards named Cliff Racer.
2/1
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>>43836777
It should be scry equal to the amount of wizards or something, straight creatures is asking for abuse, especially in green.
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I'm new at this.
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>>43837435
Why not recursion?
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>>43837475

You can only sacrifice creatures you control, to the "you control" part is redundant. Also it's "Put that many +1/+1 counters on ~".

This ability is very close to the Devour mechanic that Jund had in Shards of Alara, though your version is a triggered ability instead of a replacement effect, which makes it a lot worse against spot removal.

Finally, WotC has moved away from having both +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters in the same set, so having both types on the same card might be extra confusing. One way to fix it could be to give the creature great base stats, but enter with a number of -1/-1 counters, and then having an option of sacrificing creatures to move the -1/-1 counters to other creatures.
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>>43837521
Guh, that "put it on the top or bottom" should probably be "put Cliff Racer" to make it more clear.
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>>43837542
Would this be acceptable?
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>>43837614
Can't have two colons on a single ability. There is only one, to distinguish cost from ability.
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>>43836777
But 'lizard wizard' sounds just great
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Huh. This isn't the normal thread.
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>>43837748
Easier to just be +2/+2 until end of turn wouldn't it?
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>>43837768
Definitely. Will change it to that.
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>>43835050

>>43836693

It shouldn't be getting lands or creatures anyways.
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>>43837802
specify that you can only activate that ability when the card is in your graveyard.

Also how is that second ability blue AT ALL?
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>>43837521

>opponent swings witha field full of creatures
>put them all on top of your library

thanks for the cards faggot
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>>43837817
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>>43837817

>how is instant/sorcery recursion blue AT ALL?

srsly?????????????????????????????????????????
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>>43834940
Should read "... puts a colourless Eldrazi creature token with indestructible..." rather than Devoid.
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>>43837026
Delve is not a red ability
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>>43837933
It's almost like the card is also blue.

Also, you're full of shit because there isn't anything preventing red from getting some delve cards in the future. It fits more than green, which only got delve cards because it was part of sultai.
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>>43837819
I mean, it's like Despoiler of Souls with flying,
I should probably put "can't block" on it, too.
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>>43836974
make it chaos warp instead of oblation, or make it white
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>>43837970
I like this a lot, and that's not just my dick talking. I've been meaning to put together a Prized Unicorn deck for a while.
I wouldn't make special "must be blocked" 3/3 beasts though, I'd just put the ability on Shaye rather than the tokens.
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>>43837986
Ah, well the idea is it's on the tokens so they can act as decoys so the poor 1/1 doesn't get obliterated in combat and can keep pumping out value. If she had to be blocked, you might be able to get through with one or two 3/3s once, but that'd be all. That was my line of thinking when making it, at least.
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>>43838000
I mean give her the ability that forces the beasts to get blocked instead of having to print specialized tokens just for her. 3/3 vanilla Beasts are already a thing.
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>>43838047

Also means she supports existing beasts in a deck.
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>>43838047
Ohhhh my bad. Yeah that's totally something I should consider, thanks.
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>>43837970
It's a good card... but why not use Frazetta's original?
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>>43838076
First, this is op as fuck, second black doesnt get card advantage like that
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>>43838083
I don't like the white backgrounds.

>>43838084
It's not card advantage on its own. You draw a card when it ETBs and then you discard a card when it dies. The unearth draws you a card but that needs green mana and green gets to draw cards from creatures.
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>>43838114
yeah, doesnt read it right. still, black doesnt get looting. should be blue.
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>>43838122
I was hoping the death trigger part would make it black enough but I'll see about changing it.
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Hearthstone 1/4
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>>43837614
What >>43837668 said.

The ability could be reworded to something like

Sacrifice a creature: move a -1/-1 counter from Warlock pariah to target creature.
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>>43838175
Hearthstone 2/4
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>>43838184
Hearthstone 3/4
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>>43838193
Hearthstone 4/4
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>>43838200
>Hearthstone of Rage
Heh.
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>>43836487
I do
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>>43838193
What?
Remove that first line

>>43838200
Add "long as no creatures opponent controls has defender"
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>>43838193
How about this instead?.
>Creatures without defender can't block.
>Each creature can't be blocked by more than one creature.
>During the declare blockers step, the player whose turn it is assigns blockers instead of the defending player.
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>>43835004
>quietus
>doesn't make player lose half their life
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>>43838175
Searching your library for a land is not the same as playing a land. I assume you meant "if they do l, they can't play lands this turn" because you can never play a second land unless you have Exploration or Azusa out
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>>43838138
>>43838138
I disagree; the effect is SUPER black, and would probably be more black without unearth.

> You: Play this card, draw a card
> later
> Opponent: Cards in hand? One?
> Opponent: Bolt it.
> You: <discards game-winning card>

Having a creature that gets you card advantage at the expense of being a liability later on? Feels really powerful to me. I could see you changing the cost to BB and removing unearth, maybe changing it to a 2/2, and it'd feel like a solid aggro-black uncommon.
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>>43834738
>>43834940
>>43834967
>>43835004
Why are you taking screenshots of the program? It has an export to picture function.
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(Addiction is mechanic that's not implemented but works as stated. At the beginning of your upkeep put an addiction counter on this permanent. The addiction usually causes an effect akin to loss-of-life, but may take other forms such self-mill, -1/-1 counters, etc. The effect that the card produces is "recast" at the beginning of each turn, like an epic.)
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>>43838819
Then you should make it a permanent instead of a sorcery in the first place. It makes only sense as an echantment for this card.

"At the beginning of each turn, add one Addiciton counter to this permanent and draw one card. Lose two life for each Addiciton counter."

Also this looks like cumulative upkeep that you can't stop at will.

Another way to make the mechanic work would be:
Addiction X: Put X Addiction counters on the player casting this spell. This does not get copied when this spell gets copied
>to prevent an infinite loop

Copy this spell once for every Addiciton counter on a player casting this spell.

>So the more often you use cards with Addiction, the more potent both the effect and drawback become. Tough the first version that only works with permanents makes more sense as an addiction requires more and more "drug" for the same effect.
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These threads make me realize how grateful I am for Maro and WotC being the ones in charge of Magic design.

Most of these aren't terribly, but have too much text and just unnecessary abilites for elegant card design, some lead to frustrating gameplay while others have slight problems with powerlevel and colour.

>>43838100
I like the Forest Creeper design a lot, but I think it needs to be nerfed. As it is, the defending player either blocks it and loses a creature, or does not block and loses a creature. I'd make it 1/2 instead so it trades more easily. This would make the gameplay more interactive and require the attacking player to do some tricks to get it through.

I have slight problems with huckster since the destory effect and ritual feel disjointed in both mechanics (When I need removal is not necessarily when I need ritual) and flavour (I'm not sure what huckster means, but isn't that selling something from door to door, not killing a thing and draining it's essence?). Also black should not be able to destroy neither artifacts or enchantments.
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>>43838100
His Huckster compulsory on the Kradet Mastertheif?
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>>43834738
This thread is the path of madness.
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>>43838675
the card description is fine, though shuffle after search needs to be included. He's making sure people don't try and abuse the artifact and go all " well technically I didn't play my land, the artifact did!"
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>>43839519
5/5 would play in any Limited format.
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>>43837951
>Green shouldn't have delve
>Green, the naturr colr, shouldn't have cards that are basically 'eat the dead to complete the circle of life'

Carry on.
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Here are a few cards based on DC comics, if anyone is interested. Comments/Questions are appreciated.
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Weird idea
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>>43840113

But what you lose? It causes you to win, which cause you to lose, which would again cause you to win.. you get my point.

Maybe.. "If a source other than CARD causes you to lose.."
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>>43840136
Good call.
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Equipment Enchantment idea that I had. Weird how only two cards ever have "enchant equipment",
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>>43837870
That is actually pretty good
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>>43840136
Actually, replacement effects only apply once, so the original card works as intended. Whether or not it's clear is another matter.
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>>43840153
You don't lose due to sources, unfortunately. Your original wording actually works due to replacement effects only applying once. If they didn't, stuff like Alhammaret's archive would go infinite off of themselves.
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>>43840153
what happens if you have more than one?
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I'd put art on them but these cards require a very particular art that I can't find.
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>>43840521

Red is pretty strong. Maybe have the opponent chose creatures and it deals X damage? I really like the idea.

Here is mine. I love transform effects.
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>>43840096
> batman not orzhov
> joker not red
> robin not boros
wtf is this
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Why didn't you use the regular OP and OP picture?
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>>43841244

Care to explain why, flavor wise?

At its most "good" black represents concern for the self above anyone else. That is the opposite of any super hero for that matter.

Joker is no crazy mad man, unlike. I think in his best incarnations (like Batman animated series) he is a theatrical gangster, instead of a madman who kills random people for the "lulz".
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>>43841712
Joker is, no matter the incarnation, an utterly chaotic being. He'd sink the ship he's on just to kill the captain, and that's pretty much the essence of red
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>>43840730
Fix the text; Skulking Ghost.
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>>43841780

Thanks
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>>43837778 Maybe cost it at (G)(G) or stat it as -1/0 so it doesn't outshine bears as much?
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>>43838076
Polliwart (B)(B)
Creature - Frog Beast (Common)
When Polliwart enters the battlefield, draw a card.
When Polliwart leaves the battlefield discard a card.
Persist
1/2
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>>43842671
That's a completely different card on multiple levels.

>>43842471
Out of curiosity, have you been following magic recently? Bears have been outshone and a half on a regular basis now in green and white. The card itself is fairly close to Dregscape Zombie. That being said, I should probably make it uncommon.
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>>43840318
I gave you the correct wording on this.
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>>43841403
Had this sudden idea. I am not sure if it fits. It is mostly red because of "ignites". Perhaps I make a Tribal cycle out of this. Humans are a 5 colored tribe after all.
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>>43836693
Need at here, does land have a CMC of 0? I just thought it didn't have a CMC
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>>43843802
I like the middle three. Off color dasher is probably too off color, since dash is about haste.
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>>43843802
The off colored delve I would say "each planswalker and each creature without flying". Not because it is wrong but because I find it easier to read this way. Also I like the tax collector.
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>>43843802
The off color dasher's dash cost should be red. Blue can't do haste. EVER
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>>43843901
202.3a The converted mana cost of an object with no mana cost is 0.
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>>43837986
it seems to be on the beasts to distract blockers and let Shaye through, hence her legendary status
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>>43835050
The blue one needs 'another' target creature or else you can just repeatably abuse his ability, which seems to be the opposite of what you have planned.
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>>43840730
Could get away with 3cmc (1 b/w b/w)
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>>43839419
had an idea
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>>43840730
Source of Images?
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>>43845013
So you would either not enter combat or your end step?
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>>43845173

Google.
http://fantasyinspiration.com/tag/sexy/
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>>43845013
There's no point in setting life to 5 if you lose at the next phase. Either you win, or you don't.
It's also a pretty poorly designed card, because 99 times out of 100, it just says "5BBBB: I Win", which is not a design philosophy Wizards likes to support.

>>43846063
This doesn't work they way you want it too, I'm afraid. If I take you to -50 life, and you activate this ability, you'll still die as a result of state-based actions the next time they're checked. See Angel's Grace for how this should work.
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>>43846117
Yeah I realized that seconds after posting the card, but not during the time I was thinking or making it or checking it.

How is the revised version? and I mean the card in whole not just if it's done correct this time
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>>43846189
Platinum Angel is 7 colorless mana for a flying beater with a static ability.
This is 7 with 6 colored for a Legendary artifact with a activated drawback.

It seems reasonable, but I'd jam a {Tap} on there to be safe. Something about repeatable prevention of game loss, as well as repeatable fogging on a non-creature is worrying to me.
Maybe halving damage/life loss as per Gisela, Blade of Goldnight instead of totally preventing it will keep it from being borked.
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>>43846189
>>43846263
That said, I like the idea. Bribing the opponent for just one more turn seems very Orzhov.
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>>43844221
I like this. I like this a lot.
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>>43846281
Alright that's good to know, I've only ever seen a Lich/Angels Grace effect one or two times myself so I really don't know how strong the effect can be. What about making it half damage and life loss for a reduced cost like 1BW or something?

I just figured this would be a secret Obzedat relic and repeatable "I'm so rich I can buy my life" was overpowered within reason. I mean you'd need 8 mana open for the lack of tap to really matter but like I said I don't really know how strong this effect can be.
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>>43846339
It's usually not super relevant, but it fits kinda nicely into a control shell. Leave up four duals for counters/Angel's Grace. The fact that it's 100% repeatable is just dangerous, that's all.
Remember that taking no damage means that aggro decks just lose if you land and protect this. There's no hope.
It also stops combo, repeatedly. I'd play around with it, but it seems strong enough to keep an eye on it.

>Pic
I love it. Very clever and well-costed.
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>>43846403
I should say that nearly every card I post in these threads is thought about solely in an EDH environment. That's why everything is usually a Mythic and Legendary, I'm not regular enough in other formats to know the effect they would have.
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>>43846339
Primeval Ooze (G)(B)
Legendary Creature - Ooze
Primeval Ooze enters the battlefield with a mimic counter on it.
(1): Primeval Ooze becomes a copy of target creature with a mimic counter on it, and gains this ability and "T: Put a mimic counter on target creature."
1/1
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Half Ravnica, half Tarkir.
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>>43846819
This doesn't dodge combat damage if that was an intention
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>>43846866
It's basically got Deluxe Indestructible. Not meant to dodge anything.
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>>43846905
Combat damage doesn't destroy, you want 'if ~ would die, turn it face down instead'.
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This is another one designed for Commander, not sure how it would work in other formats.

not very well I bet
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>>43847002
Interesting. Thanks for the tip.
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>>43843802
>>43844237
Maybe make the Dash cost 3RR?
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>>43846117
I didn't write it down to be balanced, the art struck me as a doomsday esque effect.

if I really wanted to do something with it would probably be "fair" doomsday, something along the lines of

Final Bargain 4BBB

Sorcery

search your library and graveyard for three cards and exile the rest. put the chosen cards on top of your library in any order. lose half your life rounded up and discard your hand.
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>>43846464
lands generally aren't without a mana ability anymore

just a nitpick
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>>43847094
as it's worded Caul's controller gets the effect, not the owner.
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>>43847187
Thanks mang words are hard, is this correct? I'm not sure about the "its" and if each thing needs to be specified, because if so it'll be to wordy to be a card.
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>>43834940
I'll be honest. I'd play Nissa's Lament. There are plenty of ways to sac it in red that are fairly decent and red needs more late-game card draw.
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how's this for a card?
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>>43847562
Blue
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>>43847562 Off-color, that's a blue effect.
It *might* be a tertiary white effect, but I'm probably just thinking a gold white/blue cards.
Whatever it is, it's not a hybrid black effect.

Beyond that the flavor text seems a bit out of touch with their effect, but the flavor is very nice.
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>>43847562
This is a very blue ability, and can be justified in white. It's in no way black. Design wise it's fine, and I like that it can be both aggressive and defensive.
>>43847016
This is typically a 3 mana card (Flare, Zap, Jund Sojourners)
>>43846819
In most cases, this would still die after you turn it face down, as damage is still marked on it. "When ~ dies, return it to the battlefield face-down."
>>43846464
Modern sensibilities require that all lands should be able to tap for mana (otherwise why make them lands?).
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How prevalent could this effect be?
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Is it too late in magic's life to implement keyworded triggers like what Hearthstone has?
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>>43848202
Like deathrattle and battlecry? Not a huge amount of call for it really, as magic has more text space to play with
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>>43848229
If Sabotage was a keyword, we would finally have something evergreen that is shared between blue and black.
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So is Weiss allowed in here?
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>>43848271
No
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>>43848173
Blue can't do -1/-1
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>>43848267
What's sabotage?
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>>43848403
Blue can change power and toughness. It just can't reduce toughness to 0.

>>43848412
Abilities that trigger when a creature deals combat damage to a player.
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>>43848449
Don't see why that would need to be an action keyword
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>>43848393
Well normally the thread is /ccg/ so I mean
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I'm trying to think up ideas for white demons. Having higher power than toughness feels right, but "The rich get richer" is the best mechanical theme I can come up with for them.
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>>43848527
Those are both black
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>>43836764
nothing about this card is written right. Not a single damn thing.
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>>43848403
It can in -1/-1 counter sets.
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>>43848527 How about cards that only help you out when you're behind?
If you control less permanents than your opponent, put a 1/1 white Soldier creature token onto the battlefield.
If you have less life than your opponent, whenever you cast a spell gain life equal to it's CMC.
et cetera
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>>43848527

This is just as stupid as "well my elves are different"
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>>43848449
>Abilities that trigger when a creature deals combat damage to a player.

That kind of thing is in every single color though, it wouldn't especially be UB. Also no need to keyword it.
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>>43838819
>>43839125
I don't know if this terrible or not, but here's another take on it.

CARDNAME
COST
Sorcery
[Effect]. Exile CARDNAME.
Addiction (At the beginning of your upkeep, put an addiction counter on CARDNAME as long as it is in exile, then cast a copy of this card without paying its mana cost for each addiction counter on it.)
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>>43850120
Pretty hefty drawback on that
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>>43840096
Don't use nolan bane for the bane art. Firstly, its not consistent with the art on the rest of the cards you are using, secondly I don't seen any big guy jokes.
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>>43849851
Interesting concept. Make him a rare, lower it to 3/3 and it's good.
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Here's some of my ideas. Please criticize, help, improve.

>Captain of the Bloody Roger
(2)(R)(B)
Haste, Double Strike, Undying
3/3
Other creatures you control get +1/-1 and gain double strike.

>Press Gangster
(1)(R)
When this creature enters the field, put 2 1/1 Pirate tokens on the battlefield.
2/2

>Arm Cannon
(3)
Target creature gains menace and +2/-2
Equip (2)
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>>43850459
The two creatures are stupidly efficient. Red doesn't even get bears without a drawback, let alone a bear that brings two 1/1s. That's four power and toughness for two mana. In a spell color.

Not to mention the keyword soup murder machine that the captain is.
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>>43850475
So...what to do? Increase the cost? What changes need to be made? The Press Gangster looks alright to me. Maybe give it an activated ability to get a token?

Let's try this again.

>Press Gangster
(2)(R)
(X)(R), tap - Put X 1/1 Pirate tokens on the battlefield.
2/2

>Captain of the Bloody Roger
(2)(B)(R)
Haste, Double Strike, Undying
Other Pirates you control get +1/0 and Haste
3/3

"He plies the sea for gold and plunder, broken bones and rotting coffers."
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>>43850523
>(X)(R), tap - Put X 1/1 Pirate tokens on the battlefield.

Holy shit nigger what are you doing? Please look at existing cards.

XW at instant speed to make X 1/1s is a spell all by itself, and here you have it as a repeatable tap ability on a creature.

>The Press Gangster looks alright to me

It's four power and toughness for two mana. That's already been pointed out. Why does that look alright to you?
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>>43850601
Oh. I guess I can see that. Well, what do you think needs to change? There doesn't need to be a fight.
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First time designing any kind of card, hows it look? too strong? fairly costed? should it come in tapped?
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>>43850656
Make it an enchantment. And add an extra mana for the cost. Make an extra effect.
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>Chaneling towers
(3)
Target land produces one extra mana of it's color.
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>>43850760
To clarify, the extra mana is a permanent efect, not just one time deal.
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>>43850673
I'm not so sure about the enchantment part (enchantments don't tap these days) but I'll tack on an additional cost.
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>>43850633
Just make everything less stupidly efficient. It's not like there's one perfect way to do it so you can choose whether that's by making the creatures weaker or by making them more expensive, or a little bit of both, but something has to change.
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Do cards that cost hybrid mana that are half a number and half a color even exist in the real game? I've only ever seen them on shitty custom cards trying too hard to be original.
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>>43851543
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You've probably seen a million attempts at this already, but here's mine regardless. There's obviously room for more cards, but I think these should be more than enough to get the general gist of it.
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>>43851857
shit
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>>43851857
Interesting
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>>43851857
I like this way more than all the things trying to make "assemble a contraption" nothing more than "put a special snowflake artifact into play"
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>>43851857
Make assemble more stable, an ability that have different costs to make different stuff is not really a single ability.

Why don't you use 0/0 Contraptions with X +1/+1 counters on it?
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>>43851543
Look at Scarecrow King, it has all 5 colors with colorless hybrids on it.
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>>43844221
Techically, since they both target at the same time, it would have to be "destroy target creature if it has flying" to get around targeting restrictions.
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>>43855137
You're right, I forgot that the "then" doesn't get past that. Thanks.
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>>43855679
Didn't mean to make that legendary.
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Since wotc has decided that Protection is too uninteractive and unfun for modern magic development I decided to make a Protection-lite. Need advice on balancing it.
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>>43855756
This is way too wordy
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>>43855734
I actually like it as a legendary

>>43855756
This is a cool idea but manages to be even more complicated than protection. Do you really think it needs to show up often enough to be keyworded? It really does have the same issue as landwalk and I don't like that design.
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>>43855804
What if it just said "Targeted black things cost {2} more, prevent 2 damage from nontargeted black things"?
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>>43855967
Okay, I did some fixing on it based on feedback and broke the ability up into two abilities (which is what it really is). The one on the left is closer to what you'd see on an actual card for reference length and the one on the right is with all that reminder text spilling everywhere because MSE doesn't do well with multiple reminders.
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>>43855679
Ok so a lot of 1/0 skeletons enter the battlefield... and then immediately die. For what purpose?
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>>43856701
I actually wrote it wrong. Its supposed to spew out skeletons for each card exiled like you thought, but as written, it produces 1. Also read the first ability.
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>>43856701
Necro gives them +1/+1 and they become 2/1 and don't immedietly die. There are plenty of black cards that benefit from dying creatures though.
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>>43836387
>Take away first strike, make it only red beast and remove the unlimited quantity and it becomes fine


even then it is a 2/1 flyer that says draw 3, for 2 mana

still op

still broken
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>>43856815
draw one cliff racer, not 3
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>>43856197
To make it less wordy:

1. Black resistance/Resist black
2. "Counter it"
3. You dont need to use the dash ( - ) in effect names. You use dash, if the effect varies from creature to creature a d a simple number doesnt completely indicate the effect.

For ex,
Renown 1 (the number explains what happens)
Bloodrush - 2R: You get +X/+Y (2R doesnt explain the effect fully).


Cool idea,btw.
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>>43850656

"U/B U/B, T: Text."
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>>43850448

Can you make it a demon angel?
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>>43857147
Sure, but why?
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Name a two-color combination better than Orzhov. Pro-tip: you can't.
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>>43857306
Azorius
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>>43856197
That's literally the White Knight art of M10 m8

Try again with another art maybe
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>>43857345
Did you even read the discussion?
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>>43857306

I like Boros more, but Orzhov is def top 3 along with Gruul.
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>>43857323
Politicians and lawyers have got nothing on the ghost mafia.
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>>43857306
That's not how you spell Simic.

For the first ability, make the -1/-1 counters the cost. Otherwise you can pump your board at the expense of a 1/1 token. I also think it feels better an en enchantment rather than an artifact.
I'm surprised no one jumped down your throat yet for mixing counters.

>>43858052
I think its ok because its in WB, but it doesn't feel like a land. If it was UR it would be nuts.
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>>43850656
See Moorland Haunt.

>>43850448
>angel
>wings take up so much space you had to use the full art frame
>no flying
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>>43858444
Yeah, I suppose you're right about it being more of an enchantment. Also, I willfully ignore anyone talking about the woes of mixing counters; in any other color I'd agree with it, but B/W deserves to play with it.

>>43858444
If it weren't a land I would imagine there would be some mana ramp issues as mana ramp doesn't belong in B/W.
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Also here's another version of the card's flavor that may or may not be better.
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>>43840153
>final fortune/ last chance
>with the next turn summon the god head

>show and tell
>summon the god head
>4 pact of negation in hand

fun card
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Does anyone know of a good place I can find pictures?
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Trying to do a tribal set with all tripairs and all color so far I have:

WUBRG: humans
WUB: Merfolk
UBR: Vampires
BRG: Goblins
RGW: Bearfolk
GWU: ?????

WRU: ?????
BWR: Dwarves
GBW: Elves
UGB: ????
RUG: ????

What should i do for the remaining tribes?
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My attempt at fixing cascade, wild spell to follow
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>>43860763
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>>43860763
You want wild card, not spell. They're not spells until they're on the stack
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>>43860816
Cool thanks. I want to know if the mechanic makes sense, enablers that let you cascade into wild magic spells which let you cast them but with a downside
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>>43860763
It's extremely parasitic. See the problem with arcane cards.
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>>43836492
Read Door to Nothingness and then rethink your card.
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>>43837870
I really like this; REALLY nice aggro card.
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>>43849851
This >>43850374 plus, I'm not sure if the "remove Fading" would work since it's not an evergreen keyword. Maybe put like 2 or 3 more fading counters.
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>>43857147
>demon angel

>>>/deviantart/
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>>43862424
I don't really understand this.
>haha you thought you had lost? Well guess what? I actually won!
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>>43862798
It's for multiplayer
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>>43837870
If you control no creatures, she's a 2/2 for W, and with an upside even if she is legendary.
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>>43864445
Storm is just for instant and sorceries
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>>43864480
Yeah, I'm trying to rework it to not be bonkers.
Current iteration is
>Aleister Crowley assigns combat damage equal to the number of spells you have cast during each turn.
>Instant and sorcery spells you control have storm, but storm spell copies you control lose all abilities.
so instead of affecting everything it's just him
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>>43839519
Should be a legendary. Otherwise 10/10
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>>43839519
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>>43864520
Storm copies aren't cast either
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>>43864627
I'll try to fix the wording
probably change it to resolved spells
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>>43864676
What is this abomination.
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>>43864676
Pretty sure it needs to state that the ability can only be used on the stack
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>>43864676
So, at 3 mana is a cancel and at 6 mana its an horrendous conteurflux/mindbreak trap
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>>43864676
I understand what is trying to do, but this will always be useful in counter wars or storm, and its horrible at that
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>>43857135
Oh man, thanks for that, I knew something felt a little off about the placement, but I couldn't tell what.
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>>43860969 The cascaded card having a downside seems more complicated than cascading card having a downside.
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(Derived from >>43864676)

Minor Setbacks (U)
Tribal Instant - Moonfolk
Return a land you control to it's owner's hand.
Counter target spell
(1), Return a land you control to it's owner's hand: Copy Minor Setbacks. If there are 10 or more spells on the stack named Minor Setbacks end the turn and take an extra turn after this one. Any player may activate this ability but only if Minor Setbacks is on the stack.
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>>43865336 Whooops ...
*You may choose a new target for the copy.
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>>43865336
>Minor Setbacks
I don't think that's a real card
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>>43865529 It's clearly not.
I (>>43865336 >>43865371) literally just made it.
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>>43865565
Sorry, thought you were referencing how to word the text with another card.
I like the idea, but it seems like a super cheap way to get a 1 cost counter spell
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>>43865619 Would (1)(U) still be too cheap?
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>>43865709
Nah, 2 cost counter spells are pretty typical, and this one not only forces a land back to your hand, but lets them instantly counter your counter if I'm reading it right for the cost of a land to their hand.

I have no idea how to balance it because late game, but I would say 1U would be great
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Paradigm Shift (R)(R)(R)(R)
Enchantment
Split second, vanishing 3
The stack resolves first in first out.
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>>43866095
Split second doesn't really matter much except it can't be exiled/countered on the stack and requires enchantment destruction
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Thinking of making a custom cube
Too many to post here
https://imgur.com/a/6bMGP/all

Are there any that
>you hate
>you specifically like
>suggestions for any of them
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>>43866148 Should have been [Flash, split second, vanishing 3]
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>>43839461
As worded, they CAN play lands, though. Just not benefit from additional land drops, because this ISN'T a land drop - it's just putting lands onto the battlefield, which isn't the same as playing lands.
Anyways.
>>43838175
Players can't play lands.
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player searches his or her library for a basic land card and puts it onto the battlefield, then shuffles that library.
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>>43866095 I got about 2/3rds of the way through that card pool before I gave up on commenting on each card
Almost everything is some combination of oddly costed, underwhelming, or a fatty
It's essentially just bombs and removal, this would be painful to play
And nearly every wordy card has awkward wording
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>>43866771 >>43866200 >_>
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Protean Cannibal 4B
Creature - Ooze
Protean Cannibal is all colors of mana that were used to pay its mana cost.

When Protean Cannibal enters the battlefield, destroy all other creatures that share a color with it. You gain life equal to the number of creatures destroyed this way.

3/3
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>>43866771
I'll take that to mind and try to lower the amount of bombs
Now that you mention it, there are a lot.
I had been afraid of there not being enough removals that I added a bunch, but maybe it's too much.

The eventual idea would be that there would be 300+ cards for a draft with them.
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Aetherblade Initiate 1UU
Creature - Human Wizard

Whenever ~ deals combat damage to a creature an opponent controls, return that creature to its owners hand.

Whenever you counter a spell an opponent controls, ~ gains first strike until end of turn.

1/4
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>>43866931
>I had been afraid of there not being enough removals that I added a bunch, but maybe it's too much.
It's not just that there's too much removal. All of the removal is too efficient.

Limited, even Cube, is very much a matter of making do with shit cards.
Pic related is terrible, but (BREAD permitting) if you see it in a draft you grab it; if not to use it then to make sure no one else does.
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>>43858444
>I'm surprised no one jumped down your throat yet for mixing counters.
Because like everyone that has completed the first grade, we understand how the two work?
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>>43862424
>How to put a giant target on your head
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>>43867076 Not sure where to start on this.
The cost is clearly arbitrary, and this card seems to properly be red?
If it's going to have a creature subtype it should either be Creature o Tribal in addition to all that other stuff.
Flashback doesn't work on permanents, you probably want Unearth.
The exile effect needs to say when it occurs (when ZZid enters the battlefield?)
Turning a library into a creature doesn't work unless you also put it into the battlefield.
There are probably balance issues with library/creatures, too (removal as milling an entire deck, etc).
Contraptions are ASSEMBLED, not put into the battlefield.
Tying into Planechase's Chaos mechanic is parasitic.
Only Planeswalkers grant emblems.
No one controls damage, and damage cannot exist tapped.
I'm also fairly certain damage only exists during situations where you wouldn't be able to tap things.
Not a creature, has P/T. Again this should probably be a creature.
That asterisk is never defined on the card.
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>>43867164
Woah bro. Save yourself the stress and just avoid bait cards.
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>>43840096
Very nice flavor, especially Robin, Lazarus Resurrection, Pyg and Scarface. Well done.
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>>43860794
Make it "If ~ wasn't cast from your hand, ~ deals 2 damage to you."
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>>43835858
>Plasma Beam

More Like Thorn Elemental: The Ability: The Card
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>>43860693
RUG: Turks/persians
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>>43867076

You dweeb, learn to make troll card. Be more subtle, if you want to fool people. Like >>>>43850448
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>>43836983
Make it cost 2W,T and its good.
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>>43837870
Would run as commander
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>>43867586
Im pretty sure the wording on flicker is wrong, altough I can't really say what the correct wording is.
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>>43844618
Needs to be "(Blink) another target creature not named ~" or have "If you exile a card named ~, return it to the battlefield at the beginning of your next upkeep instead."
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>>43837870
A+ HOLY SHIT GUYS, AN ELEGANTLY DESIGNED RARE!
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>>43865336
Jesus fuck. Its literaly just "Who can tap lands the fastest
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Under costed?
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>>43870238
Probably not. Also it wouldnt work like you want it to, because the mana empties once it goes into the declare attackers step.
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>>43870311
Add "Unused Mana added this way does not empty from your mana pool during combat."
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>>43870349
more like "This mana doesn't empty from your mana pool as steps and phases end during your combat phase"
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>>43870357
Complicated. I like it.
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>>43870311
Doesn't the paid ability on double agent track each card put into the graveyard, not just the one from that turn? Seems like a clerical nightmare.
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>>43870427
it tracks every card put into graveyard trough double agents milling, which is the intention
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>>43862920
She's at worst Isamaru, Hound of Konda, and scales up from there. Could be 0/2, but there's no real reason she has to be.
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>>43869988
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>>43869833 Reminder text isn't rules text, so it's OK as long as it's understandable.
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Just brainstorming here
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>>43870440
That sounds like a nightmare. I'd say use exile rather than mill so it's easier to keep track of what it hits.
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Making some of these, thinking about it, maybe emblems should remain (mythic) rare in Magic. Having objects that affect the game state that can't be interacted become commonplace is questionable.
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>>43870427 Only Planeswalker make emblems.
Martial Heritage should probably give +X/+X and acquire counters.
If you ~really~ wanted to, token enchantments that give +1/+1 would work; but that's a bit out of left field.
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>>43870427
Why is it "each opponent"? That sounds nightmarish in multiplayer.
Rhystic soft-countering generally specifies an opponent related to the effect or says "any player".
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