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>>77904750
Op's vid unrelated.

>>77904812
video related.

boxer vs mma fighter in street fight

>>77904750

They don't. Generally a skilled MMA fighter will beat a boxer in a street fight.

However in a street fight it is generally better to be a boxer. In the streets the most important things to do are

#1 take people down fast
#2 be mobile

MMA fighters are taught to grapple a fair amount which is bad for both as it makes you semi-stationary and doesn't offer the quick KO. A boxer will tend to do better on the streets (where most people are untrained) cause they can get quick KOs and move on.

In a 1 on 1 high level fight it is better to know a good deal about all fighting styles.

Combat sports are for bottom tier dogshit people and all of you should find productive hobbies before you end up getting arrested at bar close trying to pick fights with bouncers

>>77906275
>Generally a skilled MMA fighter will beat a boxer in a street fight.
You have stats on that, I assume? You wouldn't make this shit up, right?

>>77906476

nope just logic. Of course skill level matters but equally skilled it is better to not have just 1 thing to rely on.

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>>77906779
I agree because of the choking, the kicks, the knees, the wrestling, the ground-and-pound, and whatnot.

And without any of those weapons, Conor gave a pillow puncher his first TKO in years.

>>77904750
Ray Mercer lost to Kimbo Slice(total bum) when he fought in MMA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DahOLe5z3Ek

>>77906476
The 50 million streetfights on worldstarhiphop/liveleak where the guy who takes it to the ground with control, wins every single time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKs1CwrXh8M&t=3s .

>>77906275
Street fights very rarely go to the ground you autist. Boxing training is the most valuable weapon you can have in a street fight not wrestling or jiu jitsu

The fact that you think this shows how autistic MMA fans really are because it shows you've really seen or been in a street fight before

>>77906820
fuck, that was beautiful

>>77907471
Truth. Boxing teaches you how to predict aggression and respond fast and hard, someone wont get the drop on you unless he sucker punches you to the back of the head. Meanwhile wrestling and Jiu Jitsu teaches you how to rub dicks on the ground until the other guy's buddy decides to join in and heem your retarded, gay face.

>>77907246
And how many of those involved boxers?

>W-w-wait, I am just going to lock in this armbar on your friend here. Please don't stomp me in the head while I lie here on the street and play MMA

MMA-boys in their tapout gear are super effective on the street. You had me there.

>>77906275
>mma fighters are taught to grapple a fair amount

Except all the fucking champions are strikers and the grappler meme lasted for awhile before being knocked the fuck out by kicks and punches.

>>77906275
>generally a skilled mma fighter

All the greatest champions are strikers or grapplers that had a short run before getting exposed by strikers.

Grappling is a meme used to surprise people who aren't used to the style. Kicking or punching someone's head in with speed and agression is still the easiest way to end fights. Grappling is only learned for defence in UFC. Don't even pretend that this isn't true.

>>77911335
you probably think you're really smart.
if the guy you're fighting with has a partner, and they aren't completely inept, you're FUCKED, there's no way you can defend and manage distance against two people, they'll close in and fuck you up. The most likely scenario is that they will throw you into the ground and start kicking your ass. Your best chances are 1) know how to not being taken down and 2) if you get taken down, know how to get into a dominant position so you can get up and run.

>>77911335
Dude, nobody that knows what they're doing is going to try an armbar in a street fight. You clearly don't know shit about grappling, because submissions are only a small part of it. First and foremost, it's about control. Controlling another human being is deeper and more difficult than submissions. A bluebelt has submissions he can finish a blackbelt with if he gets in that position. What he lacks and where he is outclassed massively is his ability to control.

>>77911425
Except if you're a skilled boxer with power and speed you can put them to sleep with one good punch each.

>>77911429
>control in a streetfight
The only possible use of grappling is in case you fall down you know how to defend yourself.
In street fights there aren't rules against rabbit punching your fucking head in while you try to play grabass.

>>77911436
delusional as fuck, if they have any coordination at all in their attack you have zero chance, you can't punch with two hands simultaniously.

What boxer from any weight class could survive 3 rounds in MMA against Stephen Thompson (170), Lyoto Machida (185) or Rory MacDonald (170)?

>>77911379
Who told you this? Wrestling/grappling is by far the best aspect of MMA, it's produced the most champions. Look at Cain Velasquez, Jon Jones, Daniel Cormier, Brock Lesnar, Frank Mir, Frankie Edgar, Rashad Evans, Tito Ortiz, Dan Henderson, Matt Hughes, Randy Couture, GSP. What do all of these fighters have in common? They're wrestlers.

>>77911410
>Grapplers that had a short run
Explain Jon Jones, Cain Velasquez, GSP

>>77911469
>If they have any coordination at all in their attack

Boxers have excellent defence and reading of body language. Almost all of the legendary boxers started life as street fighters.
Straight up strikers dominate the MMA for you.

>>77911477
>werestling/grapplin is by far the best aspect of MMA
Where punches to the back of the head are outlawed.

>>77911488
Explain the current situation and why fucking kickboxers are ruling the roost and not fat huggy cunts.
>Taking the amateur era no money fights as 'eras'
The moment there was any money actually involved the strikers moved in like sharks and fucking owned the place.

>>77911429
>muh grappling

It's retarded to be on the ground in a street fight.
It's also retarded to wrestle in a street fight.

Can't really argue this

>>77911522
no reading of body language can erase the fact that every time you throw a punch on someone you're completely exposed to another person to close in, grab you and then it's over, you're down getting soccer kicked in the head by two nobodies with zero fighting skill. No martial arts is reliable against multiple opponents.

>>77911477
Not only that, but nowadays the strikers are all pretty good grapplers too. Even McGregor is a brown belt. When McGregor's grappling wasn't up to par early in his career, he got choked out easily.

>>77911450
Grappling teaches you to avoid getting taken down. It teaches you how to get up if you do get taken down. It teaches you how to go from a bad position to a good position on the ground. It teaches you trips and throws. There are countless self defense situations where grappling experience will help you.

I love boxing, I trained in it myself when I was younger. I think boxing is fantastic for self defense, but it doesn't give you tools for a lot of situations you might find yourself in. If someone is on top of you about to beat you into a coma, boxing has no answer for that. Grappling will *maybe* get you out of that situation, which is better than nothing.

Doesn't mean boxing doesn't have it's use and that it isn't great, just that nowadays we know it's best to be a complete fighter.

>>77911558
T. Never has and never will be in a street fight

>>77911558
It's retarded to be in street fights in the first place. It's not retarded to wrestle in a street fight if you drop your opponent on his head and knock him out. Like another Anon said, there are countless examples of grapplers defending themselves on the streets in world star hip hop.

>>77911522
Grapplers per division:
HW Top 5: 2
LHW Top 5: 2 (including champion)
MW Top 5: 3
WW Top 5: 2 (including champion)
LW Top 5: 3
FW Top 5: 2
BW Top 5: 1
FLW Top 5: 5 (including champion)

They've hardly 'took over'. Wrestling is by far the best base for any fighter. If you can't grapple and you want to get into MMA, you're in for a bad time.

>>77911631
make that BW Top 5: 2

>>77911563
>grab you and then it's over
No, what happens is you elbow or punch them in the fucking temple or the back of the head as they try to grab you.
The only way grappling would be of use is if you sucker grab someone from the back. A conscious and skilled striker would never allow you to get him from the back.

>no martial arts is reliable against multiple opponents
Grappling is absolutely useless against multiple opponents.

>>77911588
>Grappling teaches you to avoid getting taken down
The best defence for muh takedown is to stomp the idiots head in.
Takedowns don't work in real fights past the element of surprise. Even in the fucking modern MMA all the best fighters only use jiujitsu as a form of defence or desperation manouver.

>>77911631
>wrestling meme
As soon as there was any meaningful money involved the strikers go to the top of the pile.

For street fights:

Krav Maga and Muay Thai > any other martial art.

>>77911631
Footwork, speed and striking >>>>>>>>>> memehug

>>77911657
>Grappling is absolutely useless against multiple opponents.

it's useful because they will take you down easily and if you want any chance of survival you need to learn how to get up.

>>77911727
>useful
Yeah just lay there and get stomped out by my friend while you attempt to memehug.

>>77911657
I've literally just proved that wrong, though. Out of the top 5 greatest MMA fighters of all time, 4 are grapplers.

>>77911737
Anderson Silva - Striker
Jon Jones - Grappler
Cain Velasquez - Grappler
Fedor Emelianenko - Grappler
GSP - Grappler

>>77911737
>top greatest mma fighters
Pre-money great interest 'greats' where it was basically a HEY LOOK OVER HERE THIS ART IS THE STRONGEST meme.
With professionalism and fighters doing nothing but training the story is that boxers learned some defensive jiujistu so they didn't get memed then stand up and fucking punch your head in.

>>77911733
>Yeah just lay there

that's what you would do in that situation because you're a completely idiot who doesn't know how to sweep and would probably give up your back in panick just like conor did againt nate diaz.

>>77911754
>Jon Jones
The only thing he grappled with is a needle.

>>77911756
'Pre-money'
Since when was Jon Jones, Cain Velasquez, Fedor Emelianenko and GSP pre-money?

>>77911770
Grappling is a nice way to lay around once you've punched yourself out. Other than that it's useless in a street fight that ends after someone gets fucked in the back of the head or temple once in about two to ten seconds.

>>77906820
>i-it's just fatigue

The absolute state of Conor and MMA queers.

MManlets pay $500 a month to roll around wearing Gracie approved underpants and get mersa. They don't learn to fight, just cuddle.

>>77911788
Elite boxers who can box will rather actually box because they make so much more money.
MMA is dominated by 'grapplers' up until the point that serious money and PPV subscriptions came out in the Rousey/MacGregor era. Now Boxers are busy learning defensive BJJ then quickly become top dog.

contrary to an absolutely widespread and fucking stupid belief engendered by the explosive popularity growth of the UFC during the ~2005-2010 period.... most "real fights" fights do not "end up on the ground"

that whole belief stems from one of the gracies erroneously regurgitating a police statistic on ARRESTS - it was something like 75% of resisted arrest attempts will end up with the officer and the perp wrestling on the ground. Well of course a Gracie is going to misuse such a statistic, out of context, because they were just as much a business dynasty as they were a "martial arts" family.

In reality, most of what people imagine to constitute "street fights" (i.e 2 men having a dominance dispute, so actually not a "street fight" at all which usually involves multiple combatants with weapons and intent to maim or kill, but then english-speaking first worlders are so sheltered that a fist fight seems like high violence to them) begin in punching range and end in punching. Knockouts are quick and usually the result of whichever man gets his punches off quicker and more aggressively

Theres a reason boxing became the dominant combat sport during the early 20th century, and not any other form of fighting, and its not because they didnt know any better contrary to another widespread and stupid belief. (really morons you think wrestling didn't exist, that kicking didn't exist, that chokes and joint manipulations et al didn't exist before 1990? There is absolutely nothing new under the sun).

MMA is actually a return to a time of less specialization in athletes, ironically the early generations of professional boxers cross trained extensively with wrestlers,and you'd generally end up going pro in whichever discipline you were better at (like sensible people do, instead of redditard "we can do it" generational belief that anything is possible for anyone) but the reason boxing became the dominant combat sport of the world is because it was exciting

>>77906836
Ray Mercer also KO'd Tim Sylvia

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>>77911850
>Now Boxers are busy learning defensive BJJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0qkY4oKmRg

Legs are pretty import to boxing techniques, it would be a shame if something happened to them

>>77911596
Unfortunately, and in summary they went something like me walking backwards, they keep chasing/walking after, me throwing a cross which lands decently and keep moving, them stop chasing or otherwise quitting by starting to mouth again, have their friends step between, etc.

Moving in and start grappling them is probably the most retarded thing one can do. End of story.

>>77911893
>skipping leg day

Well they deserve it.
Leg kicks are also striking.In what part of wrestling or BJJ is kicking taught?

>>77911920
They stop becoming boxers if they become competent in more disciplines.

>>77911906
what if they moved in and took you down?

>>77911970
>They stop becoming boxers
Kickboxing is also boxing.

>>77911974
>what if
And this is why it's useless. It's entirely reliant on something unlikely happening to your advantage.

What if you had a gun and just shot the guy?
What if he a streetlight fell on him during the fight?

>>77911980
Can you use your legs to fight in Boxing? No, so it's not fucking Boxing.

>>77911989
>It's not boxing
except that boxing is actually in the title.

>>77911988
>on something unlikely happening to your advantage.

what? why wouldn't multiple people wanting to kick your ass throw you in the ground and not let you run away? they have to be stupid not to try it.

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>>77911980
Then you could just double/single leg or ankle pick them (how James Tony lost)
What else has boxing in it that trains takedown defense?

>>77912008
So I guess Unboxing something is Boxing too.

>>77911980
aussies sure love passing for fools

>>77912020
>throw you to the ground
grappling is exclusively a one on one 'martial art'. If you can throw good punches and kicks with power you can damage more than one opponent or stop one in time to deal with another.
If you get brought to the ground by two guys no amount of one on one BJJ black belt tactics will fucking get you out of a beat down. And you're stupid to go to ground at any time against multiple opponents.

>HEY I'M GOOD AT BJJ I CAN TAKE THESE GUYS
No, you punch/kick/run away because you are outnumbered. This is why grappling is useless against multiple opponents.

>>77904855
where's the street?

>>77912043
>you're stupid to go to ground at any time against multiple opponents.

so is every other martial arts

>you're stupid to go to ground at any time against multiple opponents.

it's not your choice, it's theirs.

>>77912025
Nothing, however, a skilled boxer can end a fight with one shot.
>What else has boxing in it that trains takedown defence
Footwork? movement?
You can't catch what you can't get close too.
If you haven't noticed the best boxers don't just rush into a fight their guard is always up and always moving.
The greatest boxers are not known for their knockout power but their footwork and ability to take damage.

>>77912065
If you can put down one opponent in time to deal with another you'll always fight one on one.

>>77911974
I'd throw up a triangle choke and hope the others don't kill me by headstomps.

#grapplinginstreetfights

>>77912065
meant to quote first:
>grappling is exclusively a one on one 'martial art'

>>77912065
>Skilled Boxer can knock out with one punch then stomp the fuck out of you in time to deal with the next person while you try to armbar some retard on the ground while getting stomped to death.

Reminder that Holly Holm got choked out by Miesha Tate

>>77912075
so you wouldn't do shit and have no idea what's the best thing to do in that situation? not that your chances would be great in the first place, but they would be better than zero if you knew how to sweep.

>>77912099
Smack the cunt in the face and run moron.
You don't lie down and fucking let them stomp you out.

>>77912073
>if you can win the lottery with a KO per punch ratio of 1 then you might have a chance

ok lol
there's no fighting with multiple opponents, just run.

>>77912117
>Lottery
>Pro boxer without gloves

Oh you.

>>77912099
It was sarcastic since I can't think of many things that are more stupid than grappling in a street fight.

As already exlained to you, movement and throwing punches is your best bet if you have to fight on the street.

>>77912068
Boxing stances are a gift to takedown artists.
If a boxer or kickboxer modifies their stance to avoid these attempts (apart from just being faster at getting away) then they are using MMA, not a single pure style.

>>77912114
>You don't lie down and fucking let them stomp you out.

How can you get up if you don't know grappling you moron?

>>77912133
>how can you get up
You don't, you get what you deserve for not running away.

>>77912128
throws are also grappling, you don't need to engage on the ground, if the fight gets into a clinch situation judo is very useful

Boxing or Muay Thai in a street fight?

>>77912202
Kickboxing

>>77912117
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJUw7OXXGwg

>Lottery

>>77912240
>grappling is useful guys!

>>77912240
if he misses one he's dead

>>77912295
You don't understand what boxers train to do, do you?
That's like saying in BJJ if you miss a takedown you're dead.

>MMA
MMA
>Boxing
Boxing
>Street
Sprint running is always the first option
TKD - if there is space
Muay Thai clinch or Judo - if there is no space

>>77912295
>boxers relentlessly train and hone speed, footwork and accuracy because it's literally about exploiting that one moment your opponent is open to attack.

>>77912314
This exactly, street fighting with multiple opponents is about space management and survival. The best thing to do is run. If you can do enough damage with one strike you do that to create space and run.
BJJ is useful if you get caught by one dude and hope to fuck that the 2nd person isn't close enough to pin you down and run.
Boxer always has a chance because he has enough punching power without gloves to put you to sleep in a milisecond.
And run before you get caught.

>>77912307
pure jiu-jitsu or pure anything is moronic, you're the one here saying grappling is useless, as if the only skill you learned from grappling was take downs and submissions, you learn how to throw, you learn how to not get taken down, you learn how to sweep to get up and run. All of these can be useful in a street fight.

>>77912410
If you're going up against the multiple opponents. Grappling is useless as an offensive move.
There I cleared it up for you.

>>77912240
>beating up a bunch of drunk retards who have no hand to hand training whatsoever is an accurate way to measure boxing vs grappling!!!!!!111

jesus christ i knew that /sp/ was retarded, but jesus christ

All the 60 year old senile faggot pillow tapper fans are in full force now.

No boxers are ever successful in fighting minus that ultra fluke. Get over ray mercer, he was subbed by kimbo, and verbally tapped after a headkick

>>77912427
so grappling is useful as a defensive move, as in, like a type of self-defense martial art? whoa this can't be!

>>77906275
> take people down fast
that's a death sentence, the last place you want to be in a fight is on the ground, most fights are not 1 on 1 it normally a group of people and even if it is 1 on 1 you will always get that person that comes in with kick to the head while people are fighting.

>>77912453
>self-defense
The best self-defense is not engaging at all.

>>77912448
Daniel Cormier, former UFC LHW champion, also knocked out Lucas Browne, who's an undefeated boxing world champion lol

>>77912460
This

Footwork and evasion > lying down and getting fucked up.

>Inb4 grappling is useful when you're on the ground
Yes, and you're fucking stupid to get on the ground in the first place.

>>77912475
>australian boxer
M8 this is a small fish in a small pond situation.
He only cherry picked fights he could win. And all his 'world boxing' victories were vacant belts.

>>77912475
in an MMA fight and Browne was kickboxer before he was a boxer, he also has no wins against good boxers his best win was against a old James Toney.

>>77912525
An Olympic wrestler KO'd a world champion boxer m8

>>77912544
>world champion boxer
see

>>77912543

CHERRY PICKED FIGHTS ALSO GOT DONE FOR ROIDS

>>77912543
Vitali was a kick boxer before a boxer as well, but his glass jaw got shattered so the piece of shit ran away to boxing

>>77912569
All boxers roid as they aren't tested year round. They're frauds.

>>77912569
He's a world champion boxer m8, get over it, DC ko'd him

>>77911850
seriously a lot of you aren't understanding that MMAutists are rejects. If they were good at anything else they would do that instead of having to develop mediocre skills to compete against other mediocre fighters

>>77912624
Yes certainly an interesting spectacle and not a cherry picked stat.

Did you see the weekend? Amateur Boxer and MMA champion lost to a 40 year old man due to low stamina.

lmao MMA are bums that get slept on the street by pedestrians. Let me know when a 70 yr old MMA fighter kicks or grapples a young robber with a giant knife like when a 70yr old boxer KO'ed one. Oh wait, you aint grappling or kicking shit at 70 years old. Let me see the video of an MMA fighter KO'ing 4+ guys at once with kicks or grappling? Oh wait, you cant grapple multiple people or kick multiple people. You can't grapple or kick against a knife or weapon either. So what the FUCK does MMA matter on the streets you goofy white suburb faggots? Last time I check boxers COME from the toughest streets on the whole fucking planet. The streets of brooklyn, the bronx, mexico, haiti, eastern europe, puerto rico. You glass chin bootygrabbing faggots wouldnt even last in the "street fights" that boxers come from. You'd get stuck with a knife so fast for diving at a grown man ankles and you would deserve it LOL. Mcgregor is literally a failed amateur boxer and makes the whole UFC look like glasschinned bums with his marshmellow fists.

>>77912627
Literal professional wrestlers and street bums can become overnight sensations in the literal bottom feeding troughs. Now that some money is coming into the game the champion/talented boxers that are actually good do some basic BJJ and fucking knock the shit out of everyone.

>>77912651
It wasn't a fight, it was a game of boxing, you senile bed wetter. Call a nurse you fucking boomer faggot.

>>77912681
>game of boxing
>Knocked out by an old man with no punching power because you can't into conditioning

>MMA 'athletes'

>>77912675
A pro wrestler defeated that faggot piece of shit Ali in a semi fight that was even rigged in faggot Ali's favor, meanwhile CM Punk was taken out by a 1-0 fighter in the first round.

Lesnar was an NCAA wrestler so he is not merely a pro wrestler.

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/9/7/3299969/mma-renzo-gracie-twitter-takes-out-2-alleged-muggers-new-york

>>77912681
>le epic MMA fighter who was heavier, younger, faster, stronger, had more reach and taller lost by knockout a literally old man wife beater with a small head

>>77912715
>stupid shoot wrestling chink kicked legs while lying on his back
>winning anything.

>>77912701
He wasn't knocked out. It was an exhaustion stoppage. Real fighting isn't as cardio based as the game of boxing, since with no pillows and kicks and elbows you can finish fights earlier, like vitali klitchko getting his fine china chin decimated inside 3 rounds.

>>77912715
Yeah he was an amateur before he turned pro.

Just like McGregor 0-1

>>77912739
He lied on his back like that because the pure faggot coward Ali demanded rule changes at the last minute due to pure fear. No kicking while standing was one of the rules. And Ali definitely lost. He almost had to have his piss weak legs amputated due to blood clotting.

>>77904750
Something I noticed about mma fights. The fighter does not stop hitting an unconscious opponent until the referee intervenes.

So let me get this straight. Does that mean if the referee allows it, the fighter is supposed to keep going until the opponent's head turns into a vomit pile and then they're supposed to keep smashing at what's left of the brain leak and after that he is supposed to keep smashing at the puddle of blood where the head is supposed to be and just keep smashing at the puddle of blood nonstop until their arms give out just because the referee does not stop it?

>>77912624
he was not champion in 2010 his boxing career consisted 2-0 against journeyman, so DC knocked out a kickboxer with a 2-0 boxing record which you would expect him to as DC is in top 30 MMA fighters of all time.

>>77912790
>taking an exhibition seriously
>chink logic

Please stop using that stupid fight that Ali thought was a pro-wrestling style exhibition match.

>>77912819
See what roids and cherrypicking can do for you?
You too can be a 25-0 boxer one day.

>>77912826
No I will not stop using it just because Ali got his pathetic retarded bitch ass destroyed by an actor.

>>77912895
>destroyed by an actor
>le epic wrassling is real shoot style moron

Please stop.

>>77912907
Inoki was an actor who occasionally slapped people. He was not a fighter. He still whooped that bitch Ali.

>>77912656
This

MMAnlets absolutely btfo

>>77912926
>whooped
Yeah, he really fucked up ali's legs, totally life threatening injuries there. He probably had to sit down for awhile and difficulty seeing or breathing.

>>77912958
He could never walk the same again and almost had to have them amputated due to blood clotting.

>>77912958
Ali's movement in the ring was never the same after that fight, anon.

>>77912972
Wow, how scary. must be hard living without legs. Might have to take up wheelchair basketball.

>>77911425
>MMGay fags coping this hard
https://youtube.com/watch?v=D4Vg-US5JX0

>>77912926
most if not all of Ali fights were fixed, if he was around today he would have a losing record even in his prime he was mediocre

>>77912984
>never the same after that fight
>past his prime and fighting gimmicky exhibitions for money

Wow, no shit man. It's almost as if he can't actually fight straight up boxing any more and had to become a circus act.

>>77912025
Any competent boxer would have fucking decked him in the face the second he put his face right in the vicinity of their fists.

>>77912895
The guy literally just lied down. If that were a street fight he would have gotten his fucking skull shattered. Nice try though.

>>77911201
LMFAO

>>77913308
Shattered by what? Ali's not gonna stomp his head without getting his legs tied up.

And he only fought that way because the coward Ali set the rules.

>>77904750
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1ZguniuzALv

>>77912027
lmao

>>77913249
Wiki tells me that James Toney has 92 boxing games. Is he not considered competent?
Couture didn't even feint to get him to put his hands up, he just dove straight in.

Boxing is all well and good until you are in a real fight and your opponent is not going to play by predictable rules.

>>77914535
James Toney was old, fat as fuck, and way past his prime.

>>77904750
>beat by a boxer in a boxing match
gee I wonder why

>>77912809
That's why the referee must be well-trained to stop a fight before too much damage is taken. A good ref will know the signs that a fighter is unable to continue before he's passed out in a pile of gore.

reminder that most damage in street fights (beyond getting your head stamped in on the ground) is done in the first 10-30 seconds before your adrenaline starts going.
same reason why boxers are hopping and skipping about before a fight, they dont go in cold like you would in a street fight because its far easier to get knocked out that way

>>77904750
In Floyd's sport Conner lasts for 10 rounds and 30min
In Conner's sport Floyd doesn't make it out of the first round alive

Remind me again who is the superior fighter?

>>77915723
Floyd would drop McCuck in less than 10 seconds with MMA gloves

>>77904750
>owned by boxers in mma
>mma literally started because boxers were getting ripped apart by tiny BJJ fighters

>>77916060
I've never seen Floyd throw a kick ever can you please send a link. What degree is he in what school?

>>77916156
Give him a year to train and he'd slaughter Mcgregor.

>>77916842
>give an untrained fighter a year to train and he'll demolish the trained fighter

If only we had an example to learn from

>>77916842
I've read some shitposts before but there is no way you can actually believe this

God help you if you do

>>77911471
any weight class you say?
every heavyweight in the top 20, maybe even 50

>>77906275
>take people down
lol
you know how I know you've never been in a streetfight?
take someone down in a street fight and his friends will kick you in the head. Or his girlfriend. Or a passerby.
In a streetfight being on the ground is very dangerous.

>>77906820
fuck me conor sucks

>>77917561
>fighting multiple people is stupid

wow

made me think

>>77915723
not so sure about that.
just because Conor is an arrogant fuck and didn't learn shit about boxing in all the time he's had to prepare (1. it's the main part of his repertoire, 2. he's only had 2 legitimate fights in the last two years) doesn't mean Floyd wouldn't lear some MMA. Floyd is a greater athlete than Conor, and he's a LOT faster. All he'd really have to do is avoid being taken down until he gets a striking TKO. With 4oz gloves Mayweather could jelly up Goob's brain in a single round.

>>77911754
>GSP
>grappler
GSP was known for wrestling later in his career, but he came from a striking background mainly.

>fedor
>grappler
Fedor was known for mixing up his strikes and grappling.

>cain
>GOAT
lol

>>77904750

cus MMA fighters are beer drinkers who are always drunk unless they are in the cage.

Meanwhile boxers are always in control of themselves and not off their heads on all kinds of drugs allowing them to spark out those tattooed bald heads.

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>>77904750

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QIYYd-v8jI

While we're at.....


LICK THESE IRISH BALLS NIGGER! FOOK DA MAYWEDDAS NIGGERRRRRRRRRRR

>>77904750

Also thread related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fH1csRi2lM

Why do boxing niggers get bleached against a real fighter. Niggers getting bent over left and right these days

>>77907471

Muay thai, kickboxing, or taekwondo are disciplines practiced by MMA fighters you fucktard boxing nutlicker. Boxing fans still think MMA is just pure grappling and wrestling.

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>>77906820

> 56-0 counting the wives
> Gets peanut head hammer fisted like the nigger bitch he is
> TKOs a plumber turned MMA fighter for 6-7 years
> Boxing fans think they are better fighters than ppl that train in multiple disciplines

Get BTFOd nigger

>>77916869
What does he have to learn?
>Defending against leg kicks
>Being able to read high kicks before they come (he'd be able to learn this in under a month)
>Maybe a little TDD? (Mcgregor isn't exactly known for his grappling or takedowns)
Mcgregor's main tool is his stand up striking, which Floyd has already proven he is superior in. How does he not win?

>>77911868

And Randy Couture ruptured James Toney's black ass in 15 seconds

>>77918275
McGregor would beat mayweather under mma rules in 1 round and he wouldn't even have to throw a punch

>>77911201

Boxing is for glorified slap fighters that stay in their safe space and don't want a headkick with a shinbone bouncing off their head, elbows slicing up their face, or a knee to their ribs. Stay in your lane bitch.

>>77904750
bait thread

>>77911335

MMA is not just jiu-jitsu fucktard. Most MMA guys do muay thai or some semblance of kickboxing or striking that utilizes ALL THEIR LIMBS, whereas boxing pussies can't do shit when a spinning back fist or kick comes their way. Not to mention how easy it is to off-balance a boxer with simple leg kicks, go for a double leg and throw him on the ground for some nasty G&P.

>>77918275

Conor is a brown belt in BJJ holy fuck. He's also used taekwondo and karate style of kicks. Ppl say his kicks don't do shit, but they actually get his opponents circling back to his left hand, when they try to circle away. They are different levels of kicks, a kick to the stomach does as much as a body shot in terms of draining the fighter. Also leg kicks help slow the fighter down and put them off balance. His kicks can also be used to setup traps than with just his two hands. Standing up he could kill Mayweather if all limbs were available at his disposal

>>77918402
>BJJ
I really doubt that he'll get in range for a BJJ takedown without instantly getting clocked in the mouth lmao. As long as Floyd is able to defend against Conor's kicks he's easily able to beat him.

>>77919188
>BJJ takedown
Go back to boxingnews24 you fucking retard. He's not going to be able to "defend against his kicks" BECAUSE HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW. Here's what happens when fucking retards who don't know how to grapple try to magically "avoid da takedown"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0WL-8fz-Fg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd1KDz1X7iE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QIYYd-v8jI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnm6VyFcel0
(remember when McGregor took Floyd's back?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ7bbmjtAB0

Gracie might be one of the worst wrestlers of all time btw. His takedowns were atrocious.

>>77904750
>four guys hold Frye back
oh yeah, totally valid representation of the sports.

He said boxing is a limited skill set.

>>77904750
Because theyre real athletes

>>77919960
as long as boxers have defeated mma fighters in MMA rule they can beat mma fighters

>>77904750
Nate Diaz beat this dude 4 minutes into the 2nd round. Why does it take boxers so long to win fights?

>>77919960
Did you miss the part where I said he might need to learn a little takedown defense? Jeez, buddy you're a tad bit angry aren't you? Chill out, bro, it's just a sport. Wipe the cheeto dust off your fingers and go take a break. Get some fresh air.

>>77923146
excuse me?

>Boxing is good against multiple people
All it takes is one fag to hold your legs and you're finished, not to mention you can easily break your hands without gloves
No martial arts is good against multiple people except maybe parkour
>B-but the boxer will teleport behind his back and use the Fist of D00M and kill them in one punch
lmao

>>77911477
GSP had a kyokushin background. Kyokushin is arguably the best striking background to have considering most of the K1 legends had a background in it.

>>77916152
There were no boxers in the first few UFCs, only cans. They made sure to keep good strikers like Benny Urquidez out of the tournament.

>>77911659
MT loses to Dutch Kickboxing always.
KM is a joke.

>>77904750
I'm a big boxing fan
But honesty i think the fighters that would be the best street fighters are muay thai guys
They train crazy hard. hardening their legs and all

Their low kick alone would break most people down. They can hit pretty good aswell

>>77918342
>boxing pussies can't do shit when a spinning back fist or kick comes their way
They can just, you know, move, since their reflexes and footwork are far superior to MMA fighters.

>>77925897
>>77925897
>>77925897

>real fighting

just lol, real fighting has no rules, people can gang against someone, it's not 1vs1, there will be weapons

>b-but muh honor >m-muh real fighting >m-muh mma

be realistic, stop being insecure, you are just imagining fantasy scenarios where you can do whatever you are good at, in real life people don't give a shit and will use anything to have an advantage, be it weapons or a fucking gang

>>77918220
Where is the supposed boxer in this video? I don't see him

lmao @ mma bros calling their wwe-tier """sport""" real fighting, if you shoot for one of those retarded take downs in real life you dont get to do a dry humping session on canvas u get bashed in the back of your neck then stomped to death on the pavement

faggothump errr mmgay fans are so bootyblasted by Mayweather beating the shit out of McGregor

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why do manlets always get owned by normal sized adults in real fights?

>go to a bar
>see a big 6'8 black man
>call him a n**** and throw his drink on the floor
>he raises his fists, about to beat you
>pull out a scale
>ask him to step on it
>the scale reads 300 pounds
>you get on the scale
>reads 180 pounds
>"good luck with the cut, n****!"
>walk away unscathed

this is your brain on weight divisions

>>77915115

Couture was also old and past his prime.

Not to mention that he was part of the generation that pioneered MMA and is by no means comparable to the newer generation of MMA fighters.

When going into MMA , the best background you can have is in Wrestling or Sambo.

>>77911563
Aikido....

>>77917561
I've worked as a bouncer for years. Throwing somebody on the ground and stomping their ribcage then charging the next is the best tactic by far. Boxing is a joke, every Mexican I've fought tries to box and just gets thrown to the ground and beaten. And ya, you mess with the bean you get the burrito, thus the stomp and moving on to the next. Muay Thai is killer, but really only on punches is retarded.