Barcelona assblasted ultimatum

>>77705404
>BARCELONA
small team

they'll just pay the release clause and livershits will cut their vans

>>77705433
He doesn't have a release clause

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>Barça "DNA"

>do you want to sell coutinho for 100m
>no, he's not for sale
>YES OR NO OFFER EXPIRES SOON

lol Barcelona is falling apart

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FUCK OFF

>barca

JUST

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>We will give you £100m!
>No
>We will give you £110m!
>No
>YOU HAVE UNTIL SUNDAY OR WE WILL NOT GIVE YOU THE MONEY
>fuck off

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>the Umtiti team
>making an ultimatum

>>77705404
I dont understand the sudden /sp/ hate for Barcelona and love for real madrid, you cucks realise that barcelona are the good guys right?

>arselona

>>77705432
>barsmallona

STATE of barca

they will finish 6th this season

>>77705404
>have until Sunday
Literally just read an article saying they're meeting at the CL draw to discuss. Jesus are soccer tabloids the worst tabloid?

>>77705545
>barcelona are the good guys right?
>Publicly tap up players every single year
>Constantly cheat

why are they so thirsty for qtinho, he's not THAT great

>>77705553
/sp/ is always wrong so they'll probably win the treble

>>77705545
It's just because all the Barca fans have hung themself already and the Madrid fags are louder than ever

I'd feel sorry for Coutinho if the dumbass hadn't signed a new contract recently. It's his fault he'll be stuck playing at liverslip.

Also apparently Barca plan on paying the fee over 5 years, Jesus Christ how retarded can they get?

The current Barcelona president is ruining the club. LMAO

>>77705554
You need to improve the sources you read

>>77705545
>uefalona
>good guys
The only thing /sp/ liked about them was the possibility to spam MESSI MESSI MESSI and he's finished.

>>77705545
what this anon below said, but also the fact that they cover up all the shady shit they do with the "MES QUE UN CLUB" bullshit, trying to act holier than thou.

>>77705566

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>deluofeu is now in the Barca starting XI

>>77705545
kek are you the 'messi is the GOAT' kid?

lel either way

>>77705593
Goal.com because in America we don't have actual sources

>>77705579
did you see the other clauses? shit like if he wins a ballon d'or, wins multiple champions leagues, etc.

i think the only upfront money was 80m

>>77705545
>good guys in spain
>not atletico or depor

>>77705630
Just read the reliable British sources (Times/Guardian/Telegraph) and ignore the cheap trash (Sun/Star/Metro/Mirror/Mail)

Just dissolve the club already

>>77705545
/sp/ got invaded by reddit and facebook la.

It's just the casuals being casuals.

>>77705630
>troll.com

>>77705635
Upfront was actually only £16m top kek, followed by £16m every year until it reached £80m.

That shit is an insult when they just got a huge amount off PSG

Remember la Masia, more like la Meme-ia, aimirite

>>77705404
>get given 230m for player
>want to replace him
>bid less than half, while wasting 40m on spurs reject from the chinese league

what happened to this club. like when did they forget how to into transfers?

Henry and Werner trolling the shit out of other teams, per usual

>>77705668
er yeah, sorry i used the wrong word. should have said guaranteed money, not upfront.

but yeah it's pretty insulting.

>>77705635
>>77705668
80 million is a pretty decent fee for Coutinho but having it paid over 5 years is a pure insult to Liverpool. Everybody knows they have 200 million in the bank so its not like they can't afford it.

I hate liverpool but I hope they keep Coutinho. That shit is insulting and the Barca board needs to leave.

>>77705545
>uefalona
>good guys

>>77705635
>>77705668
tons of transfers work over many years you mongs
it's incredibly common in football

Liverpool should offer £300m for Messi.

£80m upfront and £220m when Everton win the Champions League.

>>77705545
barca are only the good guys in comparison to real
compared to every other relevant team they're still scum and the downfall is fun to watch

>>77705545
Uefalona is the most despicable sport organization in the whole world. They are borderline criminals

>>77705433
I don't have Vans though

>>77705937
>stealing a shit joke off twitter
nice one la

>Arsenalona

>>77705918
no shit, but to make the first year amount so small is pretty annoying

something like 50 - 7.5 - 7.5 - 7.5 - 7.5 would make more sense to me using the 5 year example

>>77705984
it might make more sense to you but spreading the transfer evenly is still very common. in fact I remember seeing that it's probably how PSG paid for neymar (though I'm not sure how that would work with relation to release clauses)

Why does money even matter anymore? Psg found how to exploit loopholes in ffp and it's basically open season until they decide to do something about it

What have they been smoking?

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>>77705978
hey, have some fucking respect, faggot

>>77706022
With release clauses you need to pay all of it up front

>>77705433
he just signed a new contract a few months ago without any release clause

phil is an idiot, and Barca are even stupider for thinking they could get him

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"YoU hAvE uNtIl SuNdAy tO aCcEpT oUr BiD fOr CoUtInHo"

>>77706039
>loophole
Explain?

>>77706064
yeah, that's what I'd assume. but people in the industry who actually know how all this works seemed to say otherwise. it was in one of those many articles about PSG could pay for neymar and still be within FFP. confusing desu

>>77706039
because not every team has a government using their money to help their transfers, so far the only ones are psg and halal

>>77705545
/sp/ are a bunch of gloryhunters, especially american flags (not sure if chicanos or real americans) are jumping to real's bandwagon cause barcelona isn't that trebble team anymore; and then you have 20 tsu's threads and tons of >messhit memes; americans should stick to handegg and apehoop. I hate real and barcelona equally but the levels of shitpost are just too annoying now.
Also, barcelona aren't the good guys, bunch of cunts like biscuits or jordi alba, maybe bilbao

>>77705698
They're managing the club like the way they ran their country.

>yfw Liverpool don't change their mind
>yfw Coutinho continues to be a permacrook

>>77706119
city do to be fair, UAE

and you can argue chelsea because its the goverments money just abramovic took the money from them

>>77706137
by not employing anyone?

>>77706091
Qatar GDP: 166.9 billion.

This is also the transfer budget for PSG

>>77706102
>PSG could pay for neymar and still be within FFP
because they used the qatar government as a proxy, they are the ones paying nerman the 300m so he could pay his clause. The psgowner is also on the board of qatar's national fund, he decides where they spend the money they make from oil

tecnically, in the books, psg didn't pay a cent for nerman, other than any signing bonuses and wages. That's why it doesn't count towards FFP

this is the loophole >>77706091
, as long as uefa doesn't ban it other clubs could use either companies or governments to pay for their transfers directly to the players, even their wages, so it has no cost to the club's economy

>>77706039
>loophole
There are no good guys, or poorly informed clubs. That one is you.

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>>77706091
Basically Qatari ownership paid him the money up front because in Spain the player had to pay their own release clause and not the buying team for some stupid ass reason. So they paid the €222 directly to neymar as a sponsorship for him being the "brand ambassador" for 2022. Theoretically the money doesn't even affect psg's money and ffp. So basically the qataris just realized they CL title if they know how to exploit FIFA corruption. Pic kinda related but I'm pretty sure psg learned they can cook their books by "selling" merchandise to qatar
>>77706102
They can agree to do it in parts if the club agrees but basically Barcelona told them to fuck off and gib money because they aren't actually obligated to send his papers to the French ligue until they were paid

>>77705545
messi is the good guy, barcelona are the bad guys
ronaldo is the bad guy, real madrid are the good guys

>>77706241
nothign wrong with it as long as there is no uncontrolled debt, spedning money must be encouraged.

What do you think they're smoking over there at the Camp Nou?

>>77706168
by using red herring shits like mes que un club, like bashing rich owners, like value debt over investment ... etc to stuff their own pockets and protect feudalism

>>77705433
>English football
>Release clauses

We don't have third party ownership so you don't have outside agents pushing for extortionate clauses in contracts

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The fucking state of Barcelona these days. You guys don't even know the worst of it.

>Bayern President Uli is right saying that if Barcelona is behind Dembélé's actions, he has no respect for the club.

>Barcelona's management led Dembélé to believe that the club will do anything to sign him, so he did his part in forcing the move. He made sure Dortmund know that he wants to leave for a bigger club and then stupidly cut off contact from Dortmund.

>Barcelona then betrayed him, hasn't contacted Dortmund in 12 days and hasn't bid since the first 85m that was rejected by Dortmund asking for more. Since then the club has bid thrice for Coutinho, going as high as 125m while Dembélé has been left to rot after lying to him.

>With barely 12 days left in the window, it looks unlikely that Dembélé will be signed. This also means he will be stuck in a limbo in Dortmund, after making clear he wants to leave. Kind of like Costa in Chelsea, but even worse.

>This board not only ruins careers of Masia youngsters but also of players at other clubs. Verratti was not as bold as Dembélé, but he was clever in staying away from Barcelona. Dembélé now pays the price. Waiting in Paris, away from his club and team for a bid that might never come. Imagine the way back for him. Imagine how players from now will react to interest from Barcelona. Imagine the club's relationship with Dortmund.

>Verratti was smart.

Do they even need Coutinho now that they've got Paulinho?

>>77707509
Verrati wasn't smart, he was forced to stay, he even apologised ISIS style.

>>77705545
t. nigger

>>77707509
Bartomeu, Segura and all the kikes on the board need to be fired this September, jesus fucking christ how can one club be so stingy and jewish after having 200 million be dropped on you at once?

>>77707509
>Wanting the respect of a criminal

>>77707585
lel this.
Buyern aren't any better, starting negotiations with Götze right before the CL final against Dortmund and Fatze's "sudden" injury.

>>77705545
/sp/ just likes laughing at whichever club is in the shit

This ultimatum would have made a lot more sense if it was directed towards Dortmund for Dembele.

Liverpool isn't some financially desparate club who is gonna feel pressure to sell a key player in a season they want to compete for anything less than an extraordinary price.

>>77707554
At least he's in an improving PSG side instead of the sinking shit that is Barcelona

>>77707749
Dortmund won't exactly have to close shop either if they don't sell.

>>77705545

I only like to meme on Barca because of the rat king and >Pique. I don't have any strong feelings for them.

Fuck Halal Madrid, though.

>>77707749
>in a season they want to compete

top fucking kek

>>77705679
the best midfielder playing in your country came from la masia

>>77707837
Pulisic played for Barcelona?

>>77707868
thiago

>>77705943
this

>>77708057
>>77706119
SEETHING scatalona customers

>>77706079
Low effort post with a shit, old, meme that was never funny. You're supposed to be 18+ to post on this board. Fuck off.

>>77708136
Why can't you Uefadrid muslim customers just enjoy your refballed trophies without having to bring Barcelona into this?

>>77705545
There's a weird shift for some unknown reason.

>>77707948
Thiawho?

>>77706401
I hope it's good

>>77705943
Add manure, psg, man city, and sliperpool and I agree.

The problem is at the moment no one can stand against Halal, only Barca have a chance if they make good signings which by the looks of it won't happen.

>>77708136
are you retarded or you can't tell the difference between the flag of Valencia and the Flag of Barcelona.

Not only that, my only comment is that I agreed that Barcelona greatest merit was that it was only 2nd worst after Real Madrid

>>77710770
You can tell he's a halal fag of course he's retarded.

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>>77705901
>>77705948

>>77706180
and a couple weeks ago it was 167.1 billion

>qtnho
Is he actually good? I don't watch the "premier" league.

>>77711810
he's ok, probably worth 60m

>>77711810

he is by far Livershits best player and he doesn't want to play with them because he wants to go to Barcelona. All they are doing is angering him and he won't care about playing for them anymore and they'll continue to be shit

>>77706356
damn....

>>77711810
He's the new darling of PES Stats Database after Cassano retired.

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>People actually rate Coutinho

I thought this was a joke when I heard Barcelona wanted him

He's not even worth 50mil

They're not going to be able to replace Neymar

>>77707509
>Bayern President Uli is right saying that if Barcelona is behind Dembélé's actions, he has no respect for the club.
Yeah, Borussia Dortmund players should only be allowed to go to Bayern and for free

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>block a player to join their dream club

I mean Liverpool are doing Barcelona a favor by not allowing them to sign the once in a while blooterman, but wouldn't this ruin the club's relationship with the player. Specially if the player wants to fuck off? At worst is that he will just ask for a loan and fuck off for free.

>>77707509
>buyearn being butthurt at cancerlona because they will snap dembele before they get him from dirtmund

>>77707509
Uli Hoeness? Didn't that guy got caught up with some scandal or something a long time ago?

>>77712002
>he won't play fir them
he has 5 year contract, what's he going to do, sulk for 5 years? If I was his manager I'd let him rot on the bench or sell him to Swedish second division rather than selling him to Barca cause they're cunts

bizarre

>>77705635
i love it barca just got paid like 200 mil and they've already squandered it

>>77705545
>Uefalona
I hate both

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HERES 130M AND THATS IT JUST FUCKING SELL HIM TO US RIGHT FUCKING NOW

Barca will get cucked by both Liverpool and Dortmund. Dembele will crawl back like a little bitch, tbf Dortmund should be used to that by now. Barca wont get any Nerman replacement. Team will implode because old. Season ruined for Barca.
Thanks for Marc Bartra though, hope you've spent that 8m wisely :^)

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lovely turn of events

>>77712002
>I don't want to play at the WC anyway

>>77705545
u'r just mad because ur team is shit, sucka. lmao

>>77716118
Dembele is likely to go at this point. Barca are just being jews over the transfer fee. All they need to do is offer 110M + realistic add on fees of 40M to get Dembele since Dirtcuck admitted they will let him go for that price. Then Barca will just go for Seri and maybe some PSG player waiting to be offloaded like Di Maria or Draxler for some 40M each and they're done.

Why are Dortmund desperate to keep an overrated nigger like Dembelmeme anyway? They already have Pulisic who is not far behind in talent and consistency as shown in the last 2 games as well as some meme teenagers like Mor, Isak and that ((((((12)))))) year old nigger in the u17s.

>slipperpool sell cuntinho, their fans get really mad and they fall down the league
>laugh at them

>farca don't get cuntinho or dembele, their fans get really mad and they fall down the league
>laugh at them

damn this is a difficult choice

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Are Liverpoo fans threatening Coutinho's family if he leaves like they did with Gerrard?

>>77716164
>They already have Pulisic
they play on different positions though

>>77716195
They play in the same positions m8. Sometimes Dembele takes center and Pulisic the wings, often times Dembele plays and Pulisic is subbed in later.

>>77716199
they don't though

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>>77705500
Kek.

>>77705545
>Luis Suarez
>the good guys

No.

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>>77705545
>Real Madrid is like that popular cool kid that perheps is a bit too cocky, might loose his temper sometimes. He gets in to arguments, is a bit of a player, and some will probably claim they felt a bit bullied by him back in High School. But in the end he's a decent dude that a lot of people mislike solely because of his popularity
>Barcelona is that quiet "teacher's pet kid". He is generally well liked by most people because he just seems like a typical good and humble guy. Still you get a sense that somethings seems a bit off by him. That's because behind the scenes he mastrubates to your GF's facebook profile pictures and on sites like 4chan he furiously complains about how he gets friendzoned by all his 10/10 stacy friends and that he's somehow entitled to get to fuck because he said something nice to them.

>>77707805
Dortmund has a responsibility to its shareholders. If they don't sell Dembele for 120m then many shareholders will sue the club and its president

Why don't they just go back in for Alexis Sanchez? He was only sold because Nerman came to Barca.

>>77707509
Barcelona are scum, they tap up players constantly and tell them to force the move whilst having ex players praise them in the media

>>77712002
>he is by far Liverpool's best player

Mane is more consistently effective.

And lol at barca customers who think coutinho is gonna keep sulking when the transfer window shuts. Especially during WC year

I actually think this new approach is good
>make public you won't offer more
>move on to cheaper target
>pressure on club and very angry player now
they actually get a power position from nowhere, and you can't blame them for not bidding high enough for both players

same goes for dormund and dembele: their boss coming out today crying and telling barcelona to pay 150m because dembele is totally worth it lmao

He's trying to put the pressure on barcelona but it's failing: he knows if window closes and he hasn't sold dembele (considering the very high bids) he's in trouble with the player and shareholders. Opening his mouth this time only showed desperation, better to say nothing if you don't have any urge to sell. Barcelona should wait a week and make a final public offer of 80m

>>77716767
he was sold because of suarez

for 60-80m I would take him back, but he's a bit shit for barcelona's style and old. He would be good enough though, he's a much better player on the left

>>77716883
>g-g-guys Barcelona are totally bossing these negotiations
Fucking kek. Any player who isn't an unbelievably massive cunt will eventually come back with his tail between his legs, especially in a season before a WC. Barcelona have made themselves look like idiots by declaring they've practically already signed Coutinho and Dembele, and basically have to sign one of them to not massively piss off the fans. Meanwhile while Liverpool and Dortmund fans are pissed off at the players, they agree the clubs are doing everything 100% right and the clubs are garnering sympathy from neutrals for being victims of Barcelona's unbridled cuntery.

>>77716922
>by declaring they've practically already signed Coutinho and Dembele
literally never happened ahmed, why even bother making shit up to mess a conversation, fokin '''''''asians''''''

>>77717018
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/08/17/barcelona-close-signing-philippe-coutinho-ousmane-dembele-reveals/
>Asked if he expected them to sign, he added: "Yes, we expect it."
>the absolute state of (You)

>>77707509
MABLE
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>>77716883
You wish Juan.

Liverpool and Dortmund are basically laughing their asses off right now.

>>77705433
Release clauses are only really a thing in Spain for whatever reason

>>77712924
He got sentenced to prison for tax evasion. But since being released he quickly fell back into his holier-than-though attitude. The problem is that this time, only the most deluded customers and some desperate journalists going for some easy headline, listen to what he has to say. Everyone one else just shake their head and move on.

>>77707568
Barcelona died with Cruyff.

>>77705545
Nobody likes Real Madrid.

I like Tsuuu though

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>>77716883
>they actually get a power position from nowhere
why, because Dembele chimped out? there's a world cup next summer, he'll just crawl back and play like nothing happened. selling Coutinho/Dembele would mean ruining their seasons for Liverpool/Dortmund so of course they are asking for ridicoulous amounts of money. And because they know that Barcelona has the money. My prediction is that both will stay and that Barca will sign whatever mercenary is still available.

>>77717060
dortmund are not laughing, they know they've fucked up big time with dembele. And now time plays in barcelona's favour, that's why dortmund's boss begged them today to pay. Compare it to liverpool's behaviour: liverpool never wanted to sell

Yesterday they didn't miss dembele in the game, they don't need him anymore, he's literally packed his bags already, broken with the club, team mates insulted him, even bayern boss came out lmao

There's no going back so time plays on barcelona's side now: with every day that passes the amount of money dortmund can get diminishes, and in two weeks they'll have 0m and a very pissed player nobody there wants and who they don't need anymore. What's the smart solution here? If dembele stays there's a very real possibility he's a 0m bench player by next summer

I get the feeling we'll see a ton of transfers happening in the last hours this window, and dembele could be one of them

liverpool and coutinho are a very different case, unlike dortmund they don't have to sell, they don't want to sell

>>77717275
>pretending liverpool and dortmund are in the same situation
lmao I didn't see liverpool's boss begging for money today, that was dortmund's

>>77717295
>with every day that passes the amount of money dortmund can get diminishes
Imagine actually being this deluded. It's like you said, they can clearly play well without him, so what the fuck do they care. Meanwhile he's desperate for the move and is going to be begging Barcelona to meet Dortmund's demands to make it happen.

>>77717323
Watzke just gave an interview yesterday evening that could be summarized with a big "Fuck Barcelona and fuck Demble for behaving like that. We are not going to let them go through with this behaviour and we're going move one centimeter in this matter."

>>77717381
>and fuck Demble for behaving like that
Watzke was smart in that interview. He didn't directly say 'Fuck Dembele' it was more 'Fuck Barcelona for convincing him to behave like that'. It leaves the door just open enough that they'll forgive him if the move doesn't happen. Assuming he apologises properly.

>>77717323
are you drunk on cheap wine? how was Watzke begging for money? or did some barca shill translate it to spanish? he said that they wont negotiate and that the transfer is not going to happen if Barcelona don't pay and I absolutely believe him (Lewandowski 2014).

>>77716883

Agreed. And I'm a RM lad.

It's a good strategy for putting pressure on clubs. When you already have agreement with the player and he's longing to coming to you, and the other club is butthurt and trying desperate to jew numerous shekels for the deal, you just smoke a big cigar, give them a deadline ultimatum and left them with their heads boiling about getting no shekels at all and stuck an angry player.

Dortmund will probably reconsider. Liverpool probably not and then they might repent losing those moneys at the end of the season, depending on how it goes for them. Which is likely not gonna end up well so they'll likely cry over it at the end of the season wishing they could go back in time and act differently.

>>77717665
Yeah, except it's not a tactic that works when everyone knows you're loaded and desperate for a replacement for one of your players. It's even a tactic Bayern and United tried last season, when they had no pressure to sign those players, with Hummels and Mkhitaryan, who both had only a year left on their contracts, and they still ended up paying what Dortmund were asking.

Barcelona should have not sold Pedro.

>>77717665
we'll see how that ingenious strategy is going to work out.

>>77717665
>Which is likely not gonna end up well
what makes you think that? There is a pretty high chance that they're going to qualify for the CL again which is the maximum they can reach in the Buli these days. And if they're going to reach the CL quarter final this season, I think most Dortmund fans would consider it a somewhat okay/sucessful year. Plus they don't really need the money as much as they would've needed it a few years ago. Of course every club would be happy to get +100mil€ transferred to their bank account, but right now it's more of a "nice thing to have" than a "we need this money asap" thing for them.

>>77717295
>>77717323
Not sure what Spanish media is telling you guys, but I saw Watzke on Sky today and he was in a good mood, saying Barca pays the price they got told or they can fuck off. He also said Barca is a despicable club for encouraging players to act like this and if Dortmund gives in now it'll set a bad precedence for all future transfers.

Your whole talk how Dortmund is fucked is nonsense, considering most fans would be happy to see Dembele play for Dortmund II the next 4 years.

>>77718178
>considering most fans would be happy to see Dembele play for Dortmund II the next 4 years
including me, love me some good drama lyl

Ir's true that dortmund and Dembele had a verbal agreement that if a important club did an offer, they will sell him.
Are Dormunt the cunts in this story?
betraying their word

>>77719135
Barca fan please

>>77717665
>the other club is butthurt and trying desperate to jew numerous shekels

except Liverpool do not want to sell at all, no matter the price, it's not about the money at all, and there's no way for them to force Liverpool to sell.

>>77718178
>this damage control
lmao you are fucked and you know it, everything I wrote is true. Watzke is shitting himself now
>p-pl-please barcelona, don't forget about dembele, eh? pls buy
lmao weak

Considering this >>77719135 and how pissed dembele is, I wouldn't be surprised if he took the matter to court: in europe, workers are not owned by companies, and it only takes a player to sue in european court to change the whole system, like bosman did. This could end up being a good thing for everybody

>>77719135
I can confirm this is true, dortmund are pieces of shit

>>77719135
>Uefalona seething customers

>>77719135
Dembele came to Dortmund because he wanted to develop while MNS are still going strong for Barcelona the next 2-3 years. He didn't expect Neymar to leave and Barca is telling him "It's now or never" so he's panicking right now.

The whole "they promised me to leave" is always made-up bullshit by football players. Because you know... if it were promised, they'd put a special release clause in the fucking contract.

>>77719251
Dude you're dumb af. The only court Dembele might see is the one in Dortmund for breach of his contract.

>>77719368
>The only court Dembele might see is the one in Dortmund for breach of his contract
funny, that's probably what the club told bosman before he sued them and changed the rules of uefa.

Wouldn't surprise me if watzke ended up in jail for promoting slavery, and castro and uli too

>>77719415
Stop baiting from your Ballermann vacation, Neinhold

>>77716883
That doesn't even make sense
Uefalona bandwagon are deluded

If you spaniards conduct every business this retardedly no wonder your economy is in the shitter

I'd rather buy Pulisic.

>>77717295
>There's no going back so time plays on barcelona's side now: with every day that passes the amount of money dortmund can get diminishes, and in two weeks they'll have 0m and a very pissed player nobody there wants and who they don't need anymore. What's the smart solution here? If dembele stays there's a very real possibility he's a 0m bench player by next summer
Hahahahahahahahah
Stop, my sides

>Once his tantrum ends and that sore back clears up, he will be brought back into the fold. (James Pearce)
>Imagine what Sadio Mané would be worth in the current market? Certainly, at least three times what Liverpool paid for him. (James Pearce)
>Barcelona have set Liverpool 7pm deadline today to accept Coutinho offer. Liverpool already rejected & not interested in Barcelona deadline (Sky Sports)

>>77719135
>verbal agreement
>sign a written contract which negates a verbal agreement

Are all spaniards retarded or only Barca fags)

>>77719251
You still sound retarded m8
Stop seething

Pacta sunt servanda

>>77716883
>I actually think this new approach is good

LOL.

They've managed to piss off both clubs. I don't know about Dortmund, but Liverpool would be happy if Barcelona moved onto a new target

>>77719617
>verbal agreements aren't recognized in court as valid contracts
lmao

>>77719415
You apparently don't even no what the bowman case was about

>>77719665
There wasn't even one
Just stop being retarded pls

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Let's form an anti-Barca alliance German bros. Fuck Barcelona and their constant bullshit.

The way they consistently unsettle players every fucking time is bullshit. Surprised Xavi or somebody hasn't been in the media saying Dembele and Coutinho are slaves and need to be freed yet

>>77719665
Try proving a purported verbal agreement in court when you have a written contract with your signature which states the direct opposite of what you claim the purported verbal agreement was about.
Good luck with that, faggot
>5 year contract
>no release clause
>no nothing
>b-but we t-totally had an agreement!!! It was verbal and not provable but it said that I would be able to go to Barca whenever I wanted :(

DELUSION
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>>77719668
>unable to see the paralels between two european workers suing to get their workers' rights respected by uefa/fifa rules
sadly not surprised, current youth are bred to be slaves and are practically retarded

as a worker you have the right to leave any job as long as you notify them with enough time, you are not owned by your employer. Footballers are not different

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>Barcelona

>>77716883
>new approach is good

Lol they publicly pissed off Liverpool so it's become a point of principle not to give in now. After everything that happened Liverpool don't wanna give in

>>77719838
So, you don't know what bosman was about.
Otherwise you would see how it is in all aspects of the case different to dembele and how retarded you sound for bringing it up as an argument

>Watzke says 'suck my dick' and Dembele stays
>"w-we didn't want him anyway, f-fucking jews"
I can already see the tears on sp

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>>77719936
Better start selling filthy shareholder

>this seething barcacuck
lel, imagine being so dumb that you can't even realize that Dortmund would prefer to hold onto Dembele for ~2 more years and then sell him for 200m in an ever inflating market than to sell him now for 100m

>>77717065
Nope. Plenty of other leagues have them too.

>>77705404
>i believe what ever the press tell me

Liverpool stance
>We're not selling, no matter the price
>But if someone paid an insane amount of money, of course we'd sell (but we won't tell our fans because theyre deluded idiots)
You must realize that this is correct, unless you literally think that they wouldn't sell him even if they were offered USA's GDP for Coutinho

Dortmund stance:
>we don't want to sell
>however, literally every player has a price and if you offer us silly money, then we'll sell
>this is the same stance as we have with literally every player
same shit with Aubameyang etc etc who we also didn't sell because nobody offered our asking price and we don't negotiate when the player has more than a year left on his contract.

Our management n ever makes absolute statements. They don't say "he's not available for any price" because that's just a lie, no matter the player. However, we have the same stance in every transfer since 2013, and this has been tested time and time again - you either pay what we deem reasonable, or we're happy to just not sell. We literally let Lewandowski leave on a free because Bayern were trying to lowball.

The only difference in this case is that Dembele has 4 (!) more year sleft on his contract. He can literally guarantee us CL for another 3 years and then be sold for the same sum or more if he lives up to his talent. Or we can use him for another 1-2 years, let him develop and become a top10 player, and sell him for a fortune because we have multiple years left on his contract as leverage.
Selling Dembele now would be silly. Last year, paying 100m for Pogba was stupid money, but in a matter of 12 months, 100m for good players became the fucking norm. This year, paying 222m for Neymar was silly. However, in 2-3 years, that will be the norm for a decent player. By then, Dembele will absolutely be a great player unless an injury ruins his career. This is precisely why we won't sell unless Barca gives us a sum that his skill level does not warrant yet.

>>77720364
Dembele's price/value won't depreciate over the years. He'd start for us and be one of our players so not only will his price increase, but we'll also benefit from his performances on the pitch. And the second the transfer period is over and Dembele realizes that a transfer is impossible for now, he'll go back to playing football and doing his best so that he can take Neymar's spot next year instead, and to play in the world cup. Dembele pulled the exact same shit 18 months ago when Red Bull Salzburg were interested in him, he pretended to sulk and fucked off to Africa and said that he's permanently retiring from football. But the day the transfer window closed, he came back to the club, had his most successful 6 months up to that point in his career and moved to Dortmund. Same shit will happen again.

But right, apparently things are as follows

>Dortmund have a default stance for any incoming transfer request
>Dortmund take their default stance with Dembele
>Barca try to lowball, get their offer rejected, and subsequently pull shady shit
>Dortmund changes absolutely nothing about their stance and does not change their approach at all in response to Barca's foul play
>this means that Dortmund are panicking

wow

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Klopp laughing at Barca's offers kek

>>77720983
Little did Barcelona know this was a VOLLGAS-Veranstaltung.

>>77716164
And in the real world he was the key player of the last season.

>>77721065
You wot m8

>>77721161
Just one of Kult-Kloppo's phrases meaning "full throttle event".

>>77705641
>lendorio's team
>ever the good guys

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>Klopp on Barça's Coutinho bid: "I think tomorrow Barça will offer a McDonald's Happy Meal and we get the toy as well!?"

It's official, Barcelona are a joke

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>>77721796
Based Kloppo. I miss his interviews.

>>77721830
>trying to fuck over Dortmund and Liverpool

Klopp probably hates barca more than anybody right now

>>77721796
Holy shit what a roast... Rakuten owner is probably commiting seppuku over the great shame Barca sponsorship has brought upon him

>>77705545
>a team filled with divers
>a team with 12 men
>a team with Jordi, Pikek, Biscuits and Rat King
>good guys

UEFAlona faggots really are THIS delusional LOL

surely there are other options besides Coutinho

why the fuck are they so focused on just one player?

>>77722380
They're looking for someone to replace none other than NEYMAR. Not a lot of players come close to his level. Strangely, they're also looking to get Di Maria in case Coutinho ends up staying at Liverpool.

>>77722411
why not based Dybs

>>77705545
Easy (you)s

40 minutes until Barca's ""deadline""

I mean if they bid again after this they will just look like even bigger fucking idiots

>>77722342
What club would you say is morally sound?

>>77723101
Everton

>>77723182
>owned by a tax-dodger

Nope

They should just play Paulinho on the left wing desu he'd be world class

>>77722411
I would rather have di Maria than coutinho 1000%

The deadline has now passed.

I predict
>Coutinho has 1 more sperge out tomorrow/later next week
>Does a media interview saying how unfair it is and how he doesn't want to be here
>Realises it isn't happening
>Eventually starts playing again

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>no sassy tweet from John Henry yet

Feels bad man

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>W-WHY HASN'T LIVERPOOL GIVEN IN TO OUR DEMANDS YET??!!

t. Catalan cucks

>>77722538
Because they have Alcacer :^^)

well, after sergi roberto's game today I doubt barcelona will sign both coutinho and dembele

if the deadline has passed I think this one won't happen

>>77726606
>like a new signing la

>>77727690
he's looked much better than iniesta desu

>>77705456
Actually, every player has one, but in england it doesn't have to be public nor obligated. Remember 40kk plus-1?

+++ Lionel Messi to Man City: Pep Guardiola prepares £275m deal for Barcelona star - report +++

>>77727807
>Actually, every player has one

Wrong. That's true in La Liga, but not in England.

>Remember 40kk plus-1?

Suarez did have a release clause, but that doesn't mean every player does. Even Barca admitted Coutinho doesn't

Barca now believe a deal for Coutinho would be "impossible"

>>77729336
Source?

>>77729400
https://twitter.com/UltraAutistic/status/899393098190512129

RAC1

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>>77707509
>Bayern unironically criticising other clubs transfers dealings after they've raped their own league of competitions through their own dodgy transfers.

>>77712845
>Asks for a loan
Rejected
>Fuck off for free
He's on a 5 year contract m8. Barca will have found a new blooterman by then

>>77707509
le jealous bavarian

>>77729685
>jealous

What of?

>>77705545
Not anymore

Barcelona will fade into mediocrity like Ajax did and it's glorious

Players brought up in 'la masia' will come through the ranks and be sold onto bigger clubs like PSG and United

>>77730795
Hell yeah i love it. Real Madrid is next

>>77730795
>Barcelona will fade into mediocrity like Ajax did and it's glorious
This is what people who don't understand modern football genuinely think.

>>77730795
No chance, too much money

>>77716710
So Barca are the typical 4chan user?

>>77716710
>tfw they will never go back to Ronaldinho days

>>77705545
both are cancer kill yourself you inbred cuck

>>77731472

>Real Madrid is next

That's what they said in 2008

3 Champions league wins later and they're the best football club in the world right now

They'll buy Dembele for whatever price Dortmund demands like good little cucks and all the spics will act like it's the deal of the century.

Great thread

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How can you claim Barcelona is in a "power position" by not bidding more when everybody knows they have the neymar money just lyring around waiting to be spent.

>>77735434
Delusion

>>77735434
because dortmund have fucked up so bad with dembele he's now a toxic asset they have to get rid of before the market closes
>barcelona should bid more to be in power
lmao what a clueless mong

this is my prediction: dembele won't play ever again for dortmund, he'll be a barcelona player this season and barcelona won't pay the 150m watzke publicly begged for

>>77735515
>because dortmund have fucked up so bad with dembele he's now a toxic asset they have to get rid of before the market closes

Or he can shut the fuck up, and settle down to playing again when the window shuts

>>77735515
I bet you also believe we beg the big strong Spanish government to take our EU handouts.

>gibe dembele pl0x or I sue yuo huehuehue
>pay the price or fuck off
>lol yuo is beggar jajaja
Peninsular of monkeys.

>>77706241
Would that effect Nerman's taxes?

>not selling a player who wants to leave your team for way more money than he's worth

lmao Liverpool and Dortmund are idiots for not just selling their players for that kind of money. Those players will never play with the same intensity and drive than before and they'll be sold a couple years from now anyway, probably for way less. I've seen it happen a million time at my own club.

>>77707749
Compete for what? Top 4? Liverpool are Arsenal now?

>>77736217
Liverpool don't want to sell one of their best players 1 week into the new season, as simple as that

>>77716177
Not sure how? QTinho probably doesn't speak much English and we all know scousers don't either.

>>77736313
>that flag
>that post

Stop trying so hard fatty

>>77736292
Well your best player doesn't want to stay in your shit club and you're just further pissing him off.

>>77736357
Shouldn't have signed a five year contract then.

>>77736217
Liverpool and Dortmund are good clubs for both players.
They won't sulk for long.

>>77719135
>>77719251
>>77719271
>>77719275

Fucking same fag Paco

>>77736344
SEETHING

>>77736391
Contracts are worth fuck all, see the Nerman transfer. The only issue is how much is one is willing to pay.

>>77736462
So the contracts are worth something as they influence how much someone is going to pay. I'm relieved, I was about to believe you're retarded.

>>77736462
>see the Nerman transfer
>comparing a deal with a release clause to ones without

>>77736357
see >>77736344

>>77736292
understandable, but the offer from Barca for 100m was put up with still plenty of time to get a new player. They could have sold him early and still picked up a decent player. but maybe I'm just thinking too easy about it, since I think Coutinho is an easy replaceable player.

>>77736404
doubt it, Barca is a step up from Liverpool and Dortmund on almost every level. Plus Barca has a lot more stature. And it's not just their own mindset, but also the team's and fan's mindset. You can't really state your love for the team when you publicly have stated you wanted to trade them in.

anyway it won't ever be same for those players and usually it greatly affects their performance.

>>77736504

Is that the only rebuttal you have? I guess those ugly britbong genes affect more than just your aesthetics.

>>77736517
>anyway it won't ever be same for those players and usually it greatly affects their performance.

Meh, people said the same about Suarez and he was 10x better afterwards

>>77736537
and he left the year after that, even though he signed a new contract that very year. I'm still 100% convinced he made some back alley deal with the direction about being able to leave if the team performed well.

>>77736714
He signed a new contract that had a release clause only Barca + Real could trigger.

The difference in these situations is Suarez's initial contract had 1 year remaining. So they either signed that contract or he left for free the year after.

Coutinho has 5 years remaining on his contract and no clause, so he either settles down and plays well, or he's screwed

And so the backtracking from Coutinho begins now the deal is impossible:

>ESTADÃO: It is Barça that manipulated #Coutinho to threaten Liverpool of never playing again as a tactic to increase the deal's likelihood.
>#Coutinho's entourage confirms he never had the will to not play for Liverpool but had to follow his representatives instructions.
>#Coutinho will in principle stay and play for Liverpool again, but most probably after the FIFA date vs Ecuador and Colombia.

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>TFW probably have the same problem with Mane in 1/2 years time

>>77736790
which is a huge gamble that I don't think Coutinho is worth, but it's up to the team obviously. It's funny how Liverpool is the same situation with van Dijk and Southampton.

>>77737013
Hopefully Southampton soften up, they just bought a CB from Lazio so who knows

Barca admit defeat

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/barcelona-admit-defeat-jurgen-klopp-13509527

Barcelona have finally admitted defeat.

The Catalan giants have belatedly accepted what Liverpool have been telling them all summer: Philippe Coutinho is going nowhere.

Three bids over the course of a month and a ton of pressure exerted on the Brazilian which led to him putting in a transfer request and pleading to be granted a move failed to break the Reds' resolve. Barca will have to spend the proceeds of the £200million sale of Neymar elsewhere.

Sunday's laughable 7pm deadline that Barcelona set Liverpool to agree to an offer they had instantly rejected 48 hours earlier went unanswered by sporting director Michael Edwards.

The Anfield hierarchy had been bewildered by the structure of the proposed deal. The headline figure was £118m, which would have made Coutinho the second most expensive player in history, but an email detailed that just £82m was guaranteed and even that was payable in four installments. The other £36m was in add-ons triggered by Champions League glory and Ballon d'Or triumphs which Liverpool deemed unrealistic.

However, in truth, even if the £118m had been delivered in full in crisp tenners by Ernesto Valverde to Melwood the answer would have been exactly the same.

Fenway Sports Group's statement a week earlier that "no offers for Philippe will be considered and he will remain a member of Liverpool Football Club when the summer window closes" was unequivocal.

No sum of money would have prompted a change of heart.

Jurgen Klopp, Edwards and the owners were in full agreement that it was far too late in the window to recruit an adequate replacement.

Now the challenge facing Klopp is to reintegrate a player who has seriously blotted his copybook with the Kop and created an infuriating sideshow for the manager.

>>77707509
Bayern Munich are the last club to be talking about snapping up players and ruining careers.

>>77735515
This isn't the first time something like this has happened. Rooney was trying to force a move to Man City about 8 years ago and it never ended up happening, and both sides came out of it really bitter, but then he went ahead and had a great season with Man U.

>>77736790
>so he either settles down and plays well
>or he's screwed

nigga he's playing for LIVERPOOL, he will spend the peak of his career in a mediocre club and win zero titles, he's screwed either way

>>77736790
They can't keep him hostage for 5 years if he doesn't want to be there. This all reminds me of Barca trying to get Fabregas.

>>77716177
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/philippe-coutinho-liverpool-news-car-window-smashed-end-of-season-awards-a7728041.html

>>77739345
Barca have already moved onto other targets, doubt they will come back in

>>77739394
Coutinho isn't worth the money imo.

>>77735861
he can also do nothing and wait for the winter window

>>77739450
Try living in the real world HUE monkey

>>77739473
it's how football contract works, my paki friend
player wants it to be breached, he can simply do fuck all, pretend to play, fake an injury, and he can hardly be "fired". But he wants to be fired anyways so that isn't an issue.

>>77739613
lolok nigger, we will see soon. Coutinho will be playing again after the international break

>>77705433
>vans

who the FUCK do you think i am?!

>>77739613
I think it's looking likely that PC will not be a Barca player.

They're getting their pants pulled down over the Coutinho and Dembele "transfers", they should just cease pursuing both and look elsewhere

>>77740060
>>77739932
dumb pakis don't even read the posts
the subject was dembele
coutinho is a passive little idiot who signed an awful contract and he won't do shit.

>>77740092
>dumb pakis

Leave the colourful language at /pol/, mate. No one is impressed.

>>77705545
>spaniards
>good guys
Just no

>>77705433
do scousers usually have more than one van?

>>77740197
they're shoes

>>77736357
Liverpool have a richer history than Barca. Show some respect you cancerous cunt

Barcelona and players like Messi, Iniesta and Xavi are like the scrawny nerdy guys in high school that we were. Real is filled with Chads and bullies like Ronaldo and Ramos. We shouldn't be on Chads side, bros. They bullied us ;_;

>Liverpool
>holding players hostage

they are so shit. he isn't going to be their best player when he refuses to play. they might as well just take the cash and reinvest

>>77740401
cuck

>>77740401
>Swede is having a Stockholm syndrome
rly meks u fink

>>77740092
nah, coutinho and dembele will play and do their best for their respective clubs, the WC is in one year and they need good performances if they want to be selected

>>77705545
>eternal crybabies
>good guys
What is this ? /r9k/ ?

>>77705545
Both are equally despicable when it comes to tapping up, cheating, retarded fans etc
spee just hates it that there are people in this world that believe what you just said

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>>77740419
I'm sure it's just the same asshurt American ABL throughout this entire thread

>>77736217
Nope, they'll play their hearts out, it's a world cup year and they want to be selected

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>>77707465
>We don't have third party ownership so you don't have outside agents pushing for extortionate clauses in contracts
hahahaha