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>Hillsborough police chief David Duckenfield to be charge

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>Hillsborough police chief David Duckenfield to be charged with manslaughter of 95 people. Five others face charges

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-40419819
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le cathartic witch hunt
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It's 95 because one lad didn't die until four years later.

>The death toll reached 96 in March 1993, when artificial feeding and hydration were withdrawn from 22-year-old Tony Bland after nearly four years, during which time he had remained in a persistent vegetative state showing no sign of improvement.
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Justice
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>>76808910
They murdered them in much worse circumstances.
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>>76808910
heysel was just banter la
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S
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>>76808888
Checked
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L
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>96
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Yuros are so embarassing
>the squishing
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Does it make me a bad person to think that it's not a coincidence that the two biggest tragedies of time happened when Liverpool fans visited stadiums? Or that this behaviour might have contributed to what happened? Just look at this, how are police supposed to manage this:

http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/ticketless-teenage-football-fan-desperate-to-see-match-news-footage/1B26058_0009

I don't think it's entirely their fault but it seems disingenuous to pretend this didn't play a part.
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>>76808969
Of course it's not a coincidence.
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>>76808978
dey good la's they dindu nuffin
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>>76808969
Europeans have no accountability I'm quickly learning
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>>96
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Why didn't they just back up, bros?
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>>76809012
combined iq of >>96
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Remember a couple years ago when they said they could finally put all this to bed. It's never going to end is it? Have they been given reparations yet?
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Remember when Liverpool refused to play an actual fixture 2yrs ago because it feel on a Hillsborough anniversary.

The FA should have fined the for refusing to field a team and forcing another club to move a fixture. Imagine the dilemma they would have been in if they were playing a CL fixture and needed an extra days rest.
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>>76809071

>muh 96 resurrected
>the sun goes out of business
>96 bizzies die in recreation of 'tragedy'

might they let it lie after that? or would there be more JUSTICE to be had somewhere?
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Liverpool's official site statement last month on Heysel anniversary:

>Liverpool FC today remembers the 39 football fans who lost their lives at Heysel Stadium in Belgium on this day 32 years ago.

>The disaster occurred before the European Cup final between Liverpool and Juventus on May 29, 1985, when events in Block Z of the stadium tragically led to the deaths of 39 people – mostly Juventus supporters – and left hundreds more injured.

>events in Block Z
>events
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>>76808969
No, but any such questioning of the innocence of any 'pool supporters involved in the disaster would be victim blaming and akin to blaming the Jews for the holocaust.

Fan rowdiness was definitely a contributing factor to the disaster, although a competent policing job could've prevented it despite that.
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i dont see why they had to be shown not to all pile into the same area
even farm animals can see that is a bad idea
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>>76809113
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>>96
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>>76809239
>39
fuck off
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>>76808969
>http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/ticketless-teenage-football-fan-desperate-to-see-match-news-footage/1B26058_0009

This move is impressive as fuck though.

I expected the guy in the window to be pulled out by the force.
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>>96
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Did the people who rushed into that section even have tickets?
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How many annual 'illsbregh commemoration days are there a year?
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>>39
WOGS BTFO
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>>76808869
spee BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
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>>76809108
Italians started shit they couldn't finish, again.
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>>76808869
>96
>95
Which one is it?
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>>76809792
one of them was in a coma for a few years before dying, so it doesnt count as manslaughter i think
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>>76809508
>tickets
>80's
It was every man for himself lad
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JUSTICE SERVED
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>>76809071

Your government loves this stuff. "Investigation is wrapping up in the matter of an SAS man in Derry calling somebody a faggot in 1972. Charges expected soon"
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>>76809737

96
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>be liverpoop fan
>be with other liverpoop fans
>see fellow liverpoop fans acting rowdy and retarded
>join them in the act
>96 dead
>"fuck de police la"
>"justice for de 96 la"
>"they should have known us liverpoopians are crazy la it's their fault"
>"Heysel? just banter gone wrong la they prob deserved it"
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>>76809835
>let me tell you about your country: the post
Yes those fine upstanding 80's Northern coppers would never be incompetent, cover up or lie!!
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#jft39
>>96
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>>76809878
a quick google search confirms everything I said. liverpoops rushed in, crushed each other, blamed cops.
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>>76808869

I forget, what is this about?
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>>76809878
>liverpoop fans dindu nuffin
see >>76809336
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>>76809921
>a quick google search for Man U boards confirms everything I said
'However last year, an inquest jury ruled that the victims had been unlawfully killed following failures by police and ambulance services.'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/happened-hillsborough-1989/
>>76808869
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>>76809977
>>76809978
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>>76809985
>http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/ticketless-teenage-football-fan-desperate-to-see-match-news-footage/1B26058_0009

>Liverpool fans entering the stadium without a ticket
>Liverpool fans rushing to the stands even though its already packed
>somehow it's the cops and ambulance services fault
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>>76809789
Also Chelsea fans and Maggie Thatcher la'.

Liverpool fans dindu nuffin.
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>>76810007
April 15, 1989, ended with 96 Liverpool fans crushed to death and hundreds of others left injured and traumatised, after a series of fatal errors by those in charge of ensuring the safety of those attending the match.

The disaster began with as hundreds of Liverpool fans began streaming towards towards the stadium and the Leppings Lane stand allocated to them.

It became clear that not everyone would reach the stands in time and a watching police constable radioed the control room to request that the game be delayed to ensure the safe passage of supporters into the ground, as it had been two years before. The request was declined.

With more fans arriving than could be safely filtered through the turnstiles a bottleneck developed and moments before the 3pm kick-off Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield, the police commander in charge of the match, ordered exit gate C to be opened.

That decision forced even more fans into the already overcrowded central pens. As more people entered the pens they were forced up against those in front, who in turn were pushed up against the perimeter fencing, designed to prevent pitch invasions, by the weight of the crowd behind them.

Mr Duckenfield would later claim that fans had forced open the exit gate to enter the ground, a lie he told the 2015 inquest into the deaths that he would regret "to his dying day".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/happened-hillsborough-1989/
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>>76809977
>>76810007
Not that it's completely irrelevant but you do know that was a different game and different stadium right?
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>>76808869

Further proof that scousers are not white. This is BLM tier witchhunting
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>>96
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>>76808888
>when artificial feeding and hydration were withdrawn from 22-year-old Tony Bland after nearly four years, during which time he had remained in a persistent vegetative state showing no sign of improvement.

just like hes favorite team ;_;
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i dont care whose fault it was, you just deserved it after the heysel
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>Ex-South Yorkshire Police (SYP) Ch Insp Sir Norman Bettison, two officers, a solicitor and a Sheffield Wednesday club secretary also face charges.

What did the solicitor do
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>>76808910
Reason why I hate liverpool and the cringey fans they have here in Portugal. Bunch of wankas all of them.

>>96
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>>76809108
>led to deaths

Fucking christ, at least have the decency to apologize and own up to it.
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Can everton fans make fun of hillsbro?
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>>76810407
only if they want the scouse mafia on them
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>>76810377
'Obstruction of justice' apparently.
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>>76809737
One. Feels like more because this stuff is always in and out of court.
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Why some Liverpool shirts say "Justice 96"? they just killed themselves, didn't they?
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>>96
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feels good man

Hope he gets life
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>>76809878
Cringe post
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>>76808888
>only 95 from it
>not 96

oh my god

my life is a lie

>>95
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what's the American equivalent of Hillsborough?
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>>76812492
At the time you couldn't be charged if they died over a year after the injuries you caused.
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>>76812495
9/11
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Didn't Liverpool fans also storm the gate for the Champions League final in Istanbul or Athens? They never learn
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>>76809094
>Imagine the dilemma they would have been in if they were playing a CL fixture and needed an extra days rest.
They made Chelsea change their FA cup semi final to the Sunday kick off even though they had to play Barcelona mid week
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>>76812563
Athens in 2007 if I remember rightly

Someone from UEFA absolutely savaged them
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>>76812563
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_of_Michael_Shields

I don't think so, but there is this dickhead
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>>76809094
>>76812584
The FA know when Hillsborough memorial day is, they shouldn't be scheduling fixtures then
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>>76812613
>Michael Shields

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xgz_ROXSqw
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>>76812495
This.
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>>76812495
That who concert at the Cincinnati gardens
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>>76812665
Riverfront
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>>76812495

RIP popcorn :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D08Yb0wcV04
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>>76812495
the Station club fire
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http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/heysel-30-years---peter-9254188

>As a Liverpool fan I don't feel any culpability whatsoever
>I don't feel any culpability whatsoever
>any culpability whatsoever
>whatsoever
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>>76811103
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Liverpool fans are disgusting, subhuman niggers who deserved what happened to them in 1989. Offended by everything, ashamed of nothing. Absolutely horrible fans and they should be embarrassed that this is still being dragged on.
>>76809816 is spot on. I always thought our legal system was bad, but this is a joke.
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cheeky 96 la
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>>76812613
disgusting
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>>76813143
>it all started when the Liverpool fans fired flares into their terrace
>trying to escape a wall collapsed rather than just treading on each other

Totally different from Hillsborough though, dem police killed us
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Check my 96
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>>76812495
>>49
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>>76808969
Scousers are scum? I'm pretty sure all Brits think this.
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>>76809878
Well England was banned from European competitions because of Liverpool fans. I feel the other Anglos might think Liverpool fans are lower than scum.
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>>76812665
I would have to say this is the closest I have heard. Maybe that "peaceful" concert where the Hell's Angels were the security stabbing and beating the shit outa people?
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>>76816506
Altamont Free Concert: the day the hippy movement died.
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>>76816455
Everyone is just jelly of our purple wheelie bins
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Embarrassing. It's almost as if their persistence has paid off. I'm still sceptical about the whole affair. Even if the police did open the gates how is it manslaughter? People knew the pens were full and yet continued to force their way in. Is it manslaughter if I leave my front door open and someone slips and falls in my kitchen and dies?
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>>76816455

Questioning Hillsborough is effectively the equivalent of Holocaust denial.

The general consensus is that if the police had done their job properly, the scousers wouldn't have died which is akin to saying "if the parents hadn't let those toddlers play with knives..."
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>>96
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>>76816617
>Grown adults can't be trusted not to rush into a football stadium without tickets
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>>76816600
If it was the police's job to count how many people they let into your kitchen, then decided to fuck off and open your side door as well to let more people in instead, then yeah
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>>76816600
It's a technical term with widely varying severity. If a public venue had wet floors without a sign and somebody slipped and died they could be charged with manslaughter.
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let me feel your muscles /sp/
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>>76816854
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>>76816921
>£13.90

The fuck? That's London-tier
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>>76816506

The guy they killed was fucking asking for it though. He was fucked up out of his mind on drugs, started shit all day and finally pulled a fucking gun out after being overheard saying he was going to shoot Mick Jagger. A lot of the shit that went on was HAMC prospects before the leadership all got there. It was a fucking disaster waiting to happen either way. I used to head through the pass every day going to work and wonder who the fuck thought it would be a good idea to hold a concert there. It would be like having a rave during the day in high summer in Death Valley.
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>>76808888
Best meal a scouser ever had
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the poor cop was barely 2 weeks on the job, why did no one tell him that scousers are animals?
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>>76816600
The news are very careful about what camera footage is released of the gates opening on the day. It's clear from what little we've been allowed to see that some fans had no regard for the safety of those in front of them.
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I don't get how so many people are affected by Hillsborough. Only 96 died, let's be generous and say they each have 20 members of their family that care about them. That's 2000 people who should be affected but it seems like there are millions who've been affected, am I missing something?
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>>95
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/item/1a5e1066-bbb2-464f-9a1a-c03b05ffc127

>Clinging to something that you have no relation to because you're searching for a sense of indentity.

Pathetic
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>>76817080
PTSD is both contagious and hereditary

Same reason Jews born today still suffer as a result of the Holocaust
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>deleting and banning the anon who mentioned the scousers don't shut up about it but don't mention Heysel
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>>76812495
18-1
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If he gets anything less than life, we riot
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>>76817168

Proof you can inherit PTSD. Sounds like horseshit, it's not in your fucking DNA.
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>>76817251
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/aug/21/study-of-holocaust-survivors-finds-trauma-passed-on-to-childrens-genes

There's your first step. The rest is up to you
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>>76817048
Football used to be like that tbf, pushing and being crammed into terraces was all part of the experience and atmosphere. Can see why the police and fans were oblivious to what was actually happening.
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>>76817080

Well, we might not have personally lost family members in it, but the government used Hillsbrough as a catalyst to treat football fans like criminals and it was all backed by the police to cover their own mistakes, so we are affected by the laws it brought in like no standing, not being allowed to drink in our seats, not being allowed to bring in large flags etc.
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>>76816378
this

t. scouser
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>>76817011
Ah didn't know about how crazy the guy was (just read up on it). Even his girlfriend was saying he had murderous intent. I would never say this but...thank god for the Hell's Angels.
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>>76817287
Government's hands were tied desu. I'd rather blame the savage scousers who caused this whole mess.

Reminder it is also their fault we were banned from Europe for a while. Genuine sub humans
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>>76817251
why do you think we (as humanity) are still terrified of wild animals that have asserted dominance over
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>>76817287
What was the government supposed to do? Liverpool had just killed 39 people a couple years earlier. They forced their hand. We'd have standing back again if Liverpool weren't opposed to it.
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>>76818397

Well, the idea that Liverpool fans were savages and people died because of people trying to sneak into the stadium is false, it was an accumulative fuck up by the health and safety inspectors, the FA, the police and partly the fans too. Hillsbrough stadium and the surrounding area was not fit for purpose, the crush started outside of the stadium, when people were dying, half of the terraces were largely empty, Duckenfield fucked up and only had one of the pens opened to relieve the crush from the street. You can blame Liverpool fans for turning up without a ticket, but back then it was completely normal to buy your ticket for the terrace on the day at the ticket booth.
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>>76818291
what does that have to do with PTSD? fear of predatory or dangerous animals is an evolutionary instinct that's been around before we even walked on land
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>>76819604
what do you think "instinct" is if not emotions similar to PTSD being passed through genes?
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>>76810320
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>>76819367
No one's accusing Liverpool fans of turning up to by tickets on the day. They're accusing them of trying to force their way in to stadium, without a ticket or intention to buy a ticket, as they did regularly back then. It's not a coincidence that Hillsborough and Heysel both just happened to take place when Liverpool fans visited stadia. See: >>76808969. This is what they did. Maybe South Yorkshire police were guilty of being unprepared and not anticipating that.
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>>76819861
Every team's fans did that. The police were trained for it and this time they were negligent
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>>76819861

The main problem in my opinion is Duckenfield, he only came into the job like 2 weeks before the match and he had never been in charge of an operation anywhere near that large before, he tried to bullshit his way through the operation and got found out.
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>>76819861
That's a different game mate.

All the police had to do was open the other pen instead of the exit gate to the full one and it would have been no different to any other game.

On top of that not letting more than one ambulance in when dozens of people needed help and then doctoring statements afterwards means they have no leg to stand on.
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>>76820013
Liverpool fans were worse for it. That's why they had a bad reputation.
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