You can have one of these guys, in thier prime, on your team.

Unironically Lebron

Ironically T-Mac

>including that bottom row with that top row
What a terrible post

I'd take Shaq just because I don't love Lebron, but choosing anyone but those two isn't even an option

>>76683978
>>76683972
LeBron sucks.

Get over it you dumb dick riders.

Shaq in his prime ruined dreams.

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>>76683978

Dirk beat LeBron in his prime and Iverson ruined the Lakers perfect playoff record, what are you even saying?

TMac for sure

>>76683998
Thing is. Teams would know they can't stop him. So go with a small 5 and make him come out of the paint on D. Double him when he has the ball and/or foul. Best chance. Would be a good series.

>>76684051
Exactly

>>76683994
Thanks, internet person.

>>76683957
Shaq is literally miles ahead of any of these other weak pathetic manlets

shaq desu

just for the fun of it

Curry
Klay
Durant
Draymond
Shaq

82-0 16-0

Brandon Davies

LeBron and it's not even close.

LBJ > Shaw > Dirk > AI > TMac

Part of me wants dirk, but I have to go with lelbron

Prime Lebron = chokes to the Mavs
Prime Shaq = unstoppable

Shaw

>>76684167
Be no point in the NBA. Lebron go to the NFL until one of them left.

>>76684193
>Prime Shaq
lost to the Rockets in the Finals, then left the team that coveted him for another, then left that team because he couldn't handle a real star like Kobe

>>76684270
>Prime Shaq was 1995

Nice try Bronsexual, but I won't take your nigger charging choker no matter what you try to say

>>76684167
Jordan
Kerr
Hakeem
Pippen
Rodman

>>76684312
>Shaq's prime wasn't 1995-2001
Anyone who disputes this is 100% wrong

LeBron = Shaq >>> Dirk >> Iverson > T-Mac

LeBron unarguably would be more valuable than Shaq if we're talking about their entire careers, but Shaq was a fucking monster in his prime.

Dirk in his prime could carry unspectacular supporting casts to the Finals in the much better conference twice, while Iverson did it just once in the East and gets overrated because he sniped one game off of a dominant Lakers team because he was super hot, but he could never consistently have games like that.

T-Mac in his prime was an inferior version of Iverson in his prime.

>>76684350
And Shaq despite losing to the Rockets with a team less stacked than Lecuck's never averaged 2.2 points in the 4th quarter during an NBA finals with 2 other All stars

>>76684379
Penny Hardaway and Horace Grant were all star caliber players, and the rest of the team was filled with solid role players.

>>76684402
I said that he never averaged 2.2 points per 4th quarter with 2 all stars not that he never had 2 all stars

>>76683957
Shaq. The only way to stop him was to force him to shoot free throws, he absolutely obliterated everyone during his prime.

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A healthy, dedicated Shaq in his prime and it's only close if you're under age

>>76684461
You'd be right 2 years ago, 2016 Finals LeBron was just as, if not more so, dominant than prime Shaq.

Lead every player in every stat in the Finals. Nobody will ever do that again.

>>76683957
none of the above

Kevin Durant

>>76684358
Disagree about Dirk in his prime in this NBA. I think people would attack him and he would have to chase more stretch 4s. He would get tired quicker. As for TMac. Man is underrated cause of the injuries. He can't handle like AI but can shoot him out the gym.

>>76683957
where's jordan?
shaq i guess.

>>76684542
Giannis could one day. Durant could. Westbrook could. But lose in 5

>>76683957
dirk and AI are the only ones I could rely on to stay on my team and not bandwagon some other shit squad

probably dirk because in the modern era AI would need to shoot more 3s and I couldn't be the one to make em give up midranges

just look at what its done to monta ellis, as soon as chucking treys became the meme he instantly became almost unwatcheable as a player, meanwhile dirk was and continues to be awesome

>>76684167
lmfao

i'd watch the hell out of this there'd be absolutely no way to stop curry + an actually beefy big man

>>76684623
Be too easier if Jordan was up there. Honestly it's easy now with Shaw. I would have replaced him with kobe or CP3 to make the convo more interesting. Or Yao.

>>76684626
>more dominant than Prime Shaq
>3/8
Prime Shaq doesn't get held to 4 points in the 4th by Jason Terry and JJ Barea, especially not alongside prime D Wade and Bosh. Could you fucking imagine?

>>76683957
Dirk is a literal meme. A lanky, slow, soft faggot who is listed as a PF but plays like a SG, cannot defend, and has only one ring which had more to do with Lebron being a total faggot than his own skill.

>but muh likeable personality
Don't give a fuck, talking strictly about his basketball abilities.

>>76684598

Dirk in his prime was quick and agile as fuck.

>>76684657
Not saying more dominant. Just lead both teams in every stat.

>>76684660

How do you explain Dirk sweeping Kobe and the Lakers?

>>76684670
I just don't think he have a chance against guarding these stretch 4s. He looked agile and quick because most 4s he was playing were slow. I think Green.Favors.Davis. Cousins. Griffin.Middleton .Millsap . Could get by him.

>>76684439
>The only way to stop him was to force him to shoot free throws

And it fucking worked so what's your point? Shaq at the FT line was a liability. He basically had to get and ones most of the time or else he was wasting the possession.

He doesn't win without Kobe who made Hack-a-Shaq not a 100% full proof strategy for other teams by being able to close out games as soon as they wanted to foul Shaq on every possession.

>>76684698
Dirk wasn't even the best Mavs player in that series, that was Jason Terry who broke the record for 3's and pretty much scored at will.

I would take Shaw. 4-2 is better than 3-5.

>>76684710
>And it fucking worked so what's your point?
Yeah it worked so well that in his prime he made Timmy "the cuck" Duncan his personal anal bitch and put on playoff performances not even Jordan could dream about. Protip: there's a limited number of fouls a basketball player can commit.

It's Lebron

If it were 10 years ago, then it would be Shaq.

Basketball dynamics have changed, Shaq wouldn't be as effective in todays game.

>>76684751
Terry and Barea both played well that series but Dirk still lead them in scoring iirc. Also they got so many good looks since Dirk demanded so much attention from the defense.

>>76684851
Yeah fucking right, if anything Shaq would eat stretch "bigs" the fuck up.

>>76683957
>not picking prime Shaq

literally why not.

>>76684851
>dynamics have changed
That's only because that manlet drugged up faggot Iverson got emulated by an entire generation of manlets.

Anyway, if someone like Anthony Davis can unironically average 30 points and 10 rebounds in this era, a prime Shaq in this modern faggot league would dominate all possible records and make even Wilt look like an underwhelming player.

>>76684950
He'd still dominate today but not to the degree Lebron does

He'd get rekt by 3ball teams

>>76683957
Prime Shaq all day, though I feel T-Mac is overlooked, while AI gets his dick sucked.
>>76684660
>cannot defend
this hurts him the most. no chandler = they dont win shit.

>>76685014
>Anthony Davis can unironically average 30 points and 10 rebounds
at .400

>>76684660
>>76684698
>>76684751
What a shitty argument on both sides. First off, the a Lakers series is a weak example of Dirk's value because that Lakers team was over-the-hill trash and the Mavs bench just auto-piloted through them after Dirk won them the first game in a close contest and it broke them.

Dirk's most dominant performance was in the WCF that year. Dirk completely put the team on his back to win vs the Thunder.

Also Dirk always made the players around him better because of the nature of his game. He is the ultimate floor stretcher.

>>76684851

are you literally retarded?

>>76684660
>Being THIS much of a pubelet
Come back once your balls drop sweetie

>>76685021
Except Shaq in this era would be literally unstoppable, teams used to have to sign guys specifically just to try and bang down low with Shaq.

There are next to no players in the league today who can do that, you think any of these guys are on par with Tim Duncan defensively? He got his lunch taken by Shaq

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shaq>dirk>tmac>power gap>dirk >about 30 other players>power gap>boris diaw>AI

>>76685070
>that Lakers team was over-the-hill trash
Not even that guy, but the Lakers literally won back-to-back championships the previous season. To call them trash is unbelievably retarded.

>>76685121
How is T Mac better than Dirk if he never made it out the first round?

>>76685121
whoops meant shaq>LEBRON>tmac

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>>76685087

*leave shaq to me*

>>76685070
>vs the Thunder
Was that the series where the Thunder lost every game in the last few seconds? They were just incredibly young and inexperienced, I'm 100% positive the Lakers would've beaten them too had they advanced to the WCF.

>>76685161
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewU0KYtgsuk

>>76685138
but muh 2013 spurs.

Seriously though, those magic teams he lead were trash. 3 straight 1st round loses with over 30ppg. Damn

I still don't know how he didn't get anywhere with the rockets either.

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Why is fucking Dirk up there and not Duncan? I'd take prime Duncan over any of those guys except maybe for Shaq.

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>>76683957
I choose Russell Westbrook. Oh wait, he's already in his prime and on my team

>>76685244
So first round exit every year a la T-Mac?

>>76684660
Underage poster!!! MODS

>>76685131
They were shit that entire year though. People kept saying "THEY WILL JUST FLIP ON THE PLAYOFF SWITCH" because of their b2b championships, but mightly struggled in the first round, and got their asses completely handed to them by the Mavs.

They were by far the weakest team the Mavs played during those playoffs.

>>76685280
I was born in the 80s.

>>76685287
>They were shit that entire year though.
They were a 57 win team and a #2 seed in the west. Do you suffer from amnesia or something?

>>76685334
YEH BOSTON SURE WERE GOOD THIS YEAR

>>76685227
I take Lebron after shaq. But I have to think about it. Cause Duncan the best dude and GOAT

>>76685287

It's all Paus fault.

Soft ass euro.

>>76685334

At least that series got us this classic

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ3m5jQKLU8

>>76685166
They lost in the last few seconds every time because slowing down the game and passing it to Dirk in the post to work his magic in crunch time was an unguarable strategy.

The Mavs notoriously pulled off multiple comebacks in the 4th quarter in basically every playoff series that year because their end-game strategy was perfect. Nobody could compete with Dirk's ability to score in set formations, so they erased the transition game in crunch time.

>>76685363

Duncan is literally a system baby. He got a fucking Bronze Medal on team USA.

>>76685363
>Duncan
>the guy Shaq routinely wiped his fat ass with

>>76683957
Shaq hands down

>>76684325
8gorillion - 0 2bh

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>faggots referring to Shaw as Shaq
Sure is summer in here

>>76685087
People have been talking about "Lebron Stoppers" for years and yet we've never seen one.

>>76685853
Besides Kawhi who dad dicks him every time they play

>>76685227
Duncan is a boring bland center of which many more than him who were better at the position have played in the NBA pretending to be a PF and just the another piece of Pop's chess fuckery.

Spurs didn't lose a step after he retired, while the Mavs decline has basically completely mirrored Dirk's decline.

>>76685883
he averages like 27/5/5 on kawhi

i guess thats dad dicking lebron

>>76685853
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AgMGWZcA-8

inb4 lebron didn't want to hit the game tying shot in the NBA finals and is content with second place despite chasing Jordan

>>76685952
One play doesn't make him a Lebron stopper.

>>76685951
Didn't know Lebron played for stats rather than Ws?

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>>76685746
aw are summer fags infiltrating your special secret club

kick rocks snowflake

>>76685989
>Reddit

>>76685966
Jordan didn't get blocked by any bench player on his Finals go ahead baskets, neither did Shaq to my knowledge.

>>76686031
That has nothing to do with what I said.

>>76685259
The playoffs are the officially worst part of the NBA season now, get with the times grandpa.

>>76683957
I'd have to go with Shaq but I'd feel cheap because his greatest talent was being huge.
I'd rather have Nash or Curry, tBh.

>>76685966
>LeFriend only has one play that shows he's a choker

>>76685952
>one defensive stop
oh wow

Shaq is the most dominant up there, Dirk didn't need D Wade and Bosh to beat Prime Lebron, whereas Lebron couldn't beat out of his prime Dirk with some roleplayers because he's a loser. Would rather have Curry or KD than T Mac and AI though.

>>76684598
>shoot him out the gym.

*cringe*

>>76686084
>one more than Lebron managed on KD in 5 games
Damn

>>76683957
My team is the Bulls, so I think Lebron would be the best choice. He's 9/10 in pretty much every aspect of the game

Rondo
Butler
Lebron
Mirotic
Lopez

Wade coming off the bench. IMO this team would make the Finals, then lose to the Warriors in 5.

>>76683957
probably shaq. Shaq was a better defender (MUCH BETTER) better rebounder, and better offensive threat to score then lebron. He was simply a game changer. Furthermore you could still build an NBA team around him in todays game and rock it like they did 20 years ago, most of the kids around here only remember post laker/fat shaq. When shaq was on the lakers and magic he could run the whole floor 40 minutes a night. And he would be able to stop lebron's drive too.

That said, Lebron is a more complete package, the only issue with lebron is he doesn't play away from the ball and you have to let him play "point" if you want him to rock.

Still T-Mac is the wildcard. I think he would have been even better in today's NBA then he was in yesteryears.

>>76686078
I'm not defending Lebron at all you cuck, but the argument you made is idiotic, it's still just a singular play. Shaq got blocked by Nate Robinson once, is Nate Robinson now a Shaq stopped? And he also blocked Lebron at some point, must be the best defensive player of all time according to you.

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>there are unironically retards in this very thread who would pick Dirk instead of Shaq

>>76686140
Shaq might be a better option. If we're talking about the playoffs, Wade only needs to be good in bursts, and he can definitely still do that even at his old age.

Rondo
Wade
Butler
Mirotic
Shaq
>>76686137
Did you forget the 2011 Finals already?

>>76686238
>Did you forget the 2011 Finals already?
Dirk beating the shit out of Lebron? Nah, oh you're implying Lebron locked down KD because the Thunder lost to the Heat?

You know KD averaged 30ppg that series, right? Fucking retard

>>76684710
>And it fucking worked
no, it didn't

Hack-a-shaq only worked to prevent laker/magic comebacks. put him on the line in a close game and you had a solid chance of him only getting 1, which was a heck of a lot better then the auto-2 he was going to get from the low post.

Hack-a-shaq never stopped shaq from putting up 35 points and 20 rebounds with 5 blocks a game. And while Shaq was bad at the line, he wasn't ATROCIOUSLY bad, he could and did put up 50-70% from the line depending on the night. It wasn't amazing but it was usually good enough Hack-a-Shaq never really was a winning strategy. Unlike Hack-a-(Dwight Howard/DeAndre Jordan) which worked because both players shoot <40% from FT.

If you hack-a-shaq'ed too much you might just end up losing your low post defense, furthermore Shaq usually still scored even on fouls while shooting, so all you were doing was putting him on the line to add a 3rd.

I'm glad people are finally realizing that Duncan was an insanely overrated system babby.

Kareem, Hakeem, Shaq, and Wilt were all way better than him at his true position of center.

Saying that Duncan is the best PF of all time is like saying that LeBron is the best PG of all time or Magic is the best SF of all time. Duncan never revolutionized the game in any way or brought any never before seen skills to the NBA. Just a superstar Center that was put on the court as a PF and made people go "WOW, LOOK AT THIS PF THAT IS THE ANCHOR OF THE DEFENSE AND SCORING AROUND THE HOOP BETTER THAN ANY PF EVER, GOAT PF"

LeBron in today's NBA

I think in a classical sense Shaq is the superior option but things are getting more pussified

>>76686108
Every player has always needed someone to compliment their skills.

Dirk needed a center like Tyson to guard the paint, and good 3-point shooters around him to make him deadly in the post.

Jordan needed Pippin to run the offense, do the dirty work, and be a defensive stopper.

LeBron needs clutch shooters to make shots when he sets them up.

Shaq needed guards like Kobe and Wade who can take over games when teams focused on stopping Shaq.

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>>76686567
>implying there aren't legions of basketball analysts and GMs that think Duncan is one of the ten greatest players ever

>>76684851
Shaq would change the dynamic back by himself. He's the kind of player the other teams have to adapt to, not the opposite.

>>76686567
>PF
He wasn't even better than Malone.

>>76683957
Lebron or you're kidding yourself because you dislike him for personal reasons

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>>76687043
>Legions of basketball analysts and GMs think Duncan is one of the ten greatest players ever

>>76686941
Yeah tell me when Dirk needs prime all stars to get locked down by a team of geriatrics

>>76687252
I'm a Cavsfag and you're a total retard if you select anyone but Shaq.

>>76687252
You're embarrassing yourself, Lebron isn't more dominate than Shaq

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>>76684038

>LeBron ruined the Warriors perfect playoff record

They both still failed to win, really made me think

>>76683957
where the fuck is Jordan?

>>76687482
Nowhere, because he's so obviously above the rest that he renders the entire argument pointless.

>>76687518
>Jordan better than Shaq
Hi plebbit.

LeBron is a victim of his own ego due to having retarded coaches and GMs in his early career.

Dude could have easily won more championships than Jordan had he started his career with a coach like Phil or Pop, but having a clueless dipshit like Mike Brown coach him and being surrounded by utter shit by an incompetent Cavs FO convinced him he could do both jobs better than anyone else, and wasted his full potential endlessly micromanaging every part of his team instead of focusing on being the best player of all time and letting experts build everything around him.

>>76687562
Peak Shaq>Anyone else

With that said Jordan had much more success with his abilities.

>>76683957
>a "debate" putting fucking Tracy McGrady and Allen Iverson in the same breath as LeBron and Shaq
Fucking lol

>>76687664
Peak T-Mac was literally better than everyone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_CGxj3dHGA

>>76687856
This has more to do with the Spudoras being the chokers to end all chokers. Remember this is also the team that allowed the Ray Allen last second 3 that cost them the championship and the Derek Fisher go ahead shot with 0.3 seconds left.

>>76684461
>Dedicated Shaq

And I'll take a tall Steph Curry

>>76684660
>>76685036

God, you people are a bunch of fucking morons if you think Dirk was bad defensively in his prime. He was perfectly average and guarded PnRs well for his mobility

>>76687926
Tall Stephen Curry would be a wobbly uncoordinated lanket who could not longer pull off great dribble moves.

Basically a worse version of Dirk in just about every way except 3 point shooting.

1. 1991 Jordan
2. 2013 Lebron
3. 2000 Shaq

>>76687926
>tall Stephen Curry
So Dirk?

lebron

>>76688102
Dirk never won b2b MVPs tallying a combined 33.6 win shares

>>76688178
>muh arbitrary media trophies
MVP trophies and HOF in any sport literally shouldn't even count as an argument in sports, it's based on the personal sympathies of a handful of jew writers, nothing objective.

>>76688178
Dirk wasn't an irrelevant borderline all-star tier player for 3/4th of his career whos never been the best player on his team in the Finals.

>>76688237
You could've had a players vote, a coaches vote, a fan vote, and Curry still would've won those 2 MVP's easily. Shut the fuck up, moron.

>>76687276
Fuck you, faggot, I'll bet you're a Lakers fag, because all the shit you're saying about Duncan is exactly what intelligent people say about Kobe.

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>>76688308
Steph was better than Andre in 2015. Nice try though. And "irrelevant borderline all star player" doesn't seem to describe a 2x MVP who put up these numbers.

>>76688339
Nope, they're both overrated because muh rings

>>76688316
Anything based on a fucking VOTE doesn't matter, retard. Furthermore, you valuing MVP and vote share so much like the 3rd worlder leaf faggot you are, you'd have to assume Curry's 2015 season was better than Jordan's 1990 season. Which would make you a total cretin.

>>76688339
Duncan and Kobe are literally the most overrated players in basketball history, closely followed by Lebron.

>>76687664

Iverson is one of the most influential players of all time, and Tmac in his prime was probably a top 5 scorer, ever.

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>>76688341
>Treating advanced combination stats for a sport like basketball as God's word

Jesus I'm begging you to return to your subreddit with all the other psudeo-intellectuals

>>76687664
Thread says in their prime, not career wise. T-Mac in his prime was fucking unreal.

I'd say it's Shaq > T-Mac > Lebron > Iverson > Dirk

Gilbert Arenas

>>76688506
T-Mac in his prime didn't take his team fucking anywhere in the playoffs

lebron = shack >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dirk > iverson > mcgrady

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>>76683957

Dirk because I'm a homer

But taking my homer glasses off

Shaq>LeBron>Dirk>>>McGrady>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Iverson

Honestly it's insulting to everyone else in the picture that you included Iverson

>>76688878
its been a while since the master troll has come out to play
>mcgrady over iverson
c'mon man

Iverson was basically like a shittier version of Kyrie with the physicality of Harden, people just jerk off to him because he was the first of his kind.

>>76688640
Take about half of those arrows between Shaq and Dirk and put them between Dirk and Iverson.

Shaq and LeBron are top 5 player all time. Dirk is top 20. Iverson is just top 50.

>>76688878
>>76688967

Ty Lue I want you to go and stay go.

LeBron

>>76688878
shaw plz go

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>>76683957
Shaq is objectively the only correct answer.

He wasn't even a very talented player, he was just such a freak of nature that there was literally no way of stopping him.

>>76689789
Being a genetic freak is talent. Talent is something you are born with, skill is something you learn.

Lebron. If the opposing team happens to have no way to slow down Shaq, though, he could be the better choice.

>>76683957
Unironically AI on the current Jazz team would sweep the Warriors

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Wait a minute, does "in thier prime" mean I get Heat LeBron? 2011-2014 LeBron? Destroyer of worlds and ruiner of lives LeBron?

Because I want him.

Lebron and especially Shaq in their primes were absolutely unguardable. T-Mac and Dirk (lol) never were.

Shaq. The league actually had to create new rules because the only way to stop him was to not actually play basketball against him, making the sport an unwatchable farce.

>>76686521
plus he had an uncanny ability to make them when they counted

>>76688506
Nah, he was good in his prime but he shot the ball 25 times a game. What separates lebron and Shaq from the other 3(more Iverson/McGrady than Dirk) was they are much more efficient scorers

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>>76690020
>muh unstoppable LeBron meme

He was pretty unstoppable, except for Dirk's Mavericks, and Garnett's Celtics, and Duncan's Spurs, and Durant's Warriors...

>>76690227
He said 2011-2014 retard.

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>>76690232
Oh you're right, he was only dominant after all the bigs retired and the East became a laughingstock.

>>76690020
>Implying he's out of his prime
He did have a career high in assists and rebounds(also turnovers), and it was his third best year shooting(but worst at the foul line). So he's either still in his prime (he is) and/or the Cavs are shit and in need of him more(they are, showcased by his minutes going up and them not winning a game he sat out all year)

>>76690280
He's not as quick and athletic as he once was, but he's way more skilled. I honestly think he's gonna be playing until he's 40.

lebron and it isn't even a question

inb4 shaq, nah, lebron will make you a contender for his entire career span

People really overrate Iverson because he was a flashy manlet. He played no defense and he wasn't that efficient.

>>76690328
But we're not talking about the entire career, we're talking about their prime. And nobody had the prime of his career as good as Shaq, not even Jordan.

>>76684043
>has
>>76689993
>Unironically AI on the current Jazz team would sweep the Warriors
AI on the Cavs would get sweep by the Warriors

>>76683957
Prime Shaq is a more dominant player, but he was a lazy nigger and he was so big his body couldn't handle the stress of a full NBA season. He lacked drive and he was injury prone. Lebron never gets injured and always plays hard.

pick: Lebron

>>76690332
I feel like he's the most overrated player to ever play, honestly. The second most overrated would be Steph Curry because it's inexcusable how such a one dimensional player wins two MVPs.

Anyone who doesn't say prime Shaq doesn't know basketball.

>But muh small ball force him to play out

Shaq was never a great rim protector and prime Shaq was fast enough to switch on to forwards.

And Shaq would get 65fg% if defended 1 on 1 by any center.

>Unironically picking Shaq over LeBron
Shaq had 0 stamina and relied on the rival's offence and defence to be totally static. Put him against a center that can shoot and he is death by the end of the third quarter. Also most 2kers believe that Shaq could dunk every posession which is retarded. He shot mostly crappy skyhooks and 1 hand floaters. He also had shit fundamentals and comitted offensive faults and travels all the time (sometimes they weren't called due Stern magic). LeBron is like a train. Once he is in motion he is basically unstoppable. On top of that he can pass,he has way more stamina and has a decent shot

>>76690433
Shaq had shit stamina. You can just tire him up with a center that can shoot

>>76683957
shaq
lebron
t mac
dirk
iverson

>>76690448
>>76690434
It was interesting to see Shaq vs Hakeem in the '95 finals. In game 1 they pretty much scored on each other at will, in game 2 Hakeem was the better player by a small margin, but in game 3 and 4 Shaq was completely fucking gassed and just couldn't keep up and Hakeem destroyed him.

>>76690448
Not to mention he fouled out late in games regularly. Especially in the playoffs, and had to rely on Kobe to carry the team to victory against the best teams in the NBA.

>>76690433
>Shaq was never a great rim protector

Did you even watch the nba from 1993-2004?

>>76690480
Just to illustrate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSeT1DuAK60

>>76690413
Iverson is 100% the most overrated player of all time. No team with Iverson as a key fixture could have ever won a championship. That being said, he was one of the most entertaining players to ever watch. Scrawny motherfucker clawed and fought to death every single game.

>>76690480
>>76690483
Finally someone that watched Shaq and not a 2k memester.

ride with AI for eternity

>>76690514

I agree with the overrated part but not being able to win a championship?
Come on man. That Lakers team they lost to was unstoppable at time.
Let alone putting AI on a different team, if that sixers team played 2-3 years later they would have won.

>>76690393
that's because the cavs have lebron "the loser" james, no amount of great players can stop his choking talents

>>76690649
>LeBron
3 chips
>AI
1 win in the finals

>>76690644
Iverson could've been the 4th, 5th, or 6th man for a great team, but he was never the build-around-me player he proclaimed to be. You really couldn't make a big 3 with Iverson. It's not because of a lack of talent, it's because Iverson is the ultimate locker room cancer.

It always seemed to be really easy to build playoff contender teams around Shaq. He's a phenom. Like Andre the Giant or something. He draws so much attention, double and triple teams at times. Everyone else on the team ends up getting a ton of open looks.

Shaq in his prime would completely turn the NBA upside down right now.

>>76690649
>that's because the cavs have lebron "the loser" james
That "loser" won more with the Cavs than Iverson won with any team he ever played on.

>>76690644
They would have lost to the Blazers and Spurs in 2001 as well. Probably the Kings too. Iverson gets overrated because of 2001 even though the Sixers were a good team through defense, of which he wasn't a big part of. 2001 Sixers had some great defensive players, but because they weren't flashy scorers, everybody runs the narrative of Iverson carrying the Sixers.

>>76690413
At least Curry is super efficient. Same with Nash.

>>76690676
Why was the previous decade so ridden with these cancerfaggots?

>Iverson
>Melo
>Arenas
>Gooden
>Marbury
>Ricky Davis
>Patterson

>>76690731
Nash was good, but I never remember anyone mentioning him as one of the GOATs. Meanwhile as late as last year there were faggots on here and elsewhere claiming Curry is better than Lebron and that Cavs with Curry would easily beat the Warriors with Lebron.

>>76688341
that other guy is a faget but if you unironically think steph hasn't been one of the best 2/3/4 players in the league for several years then you are as well.

>>76690307
I think he could be he gets soooo much shit for losing a chip and hes so self conscious. He's also self aware and when he knows he's really truly lost a few steps and if shit hits the fan he isn't capable any more of just putting the team on his back I don't think he'd stick around only to take teams so far and then lose

>>76690771
When LeBron can't carry a team on his back any more there's decent odds he just fucks off and becomes a bench player for a team he likes. I could see him joining the Spurs if Pop is still the coach.

>>76690771
Shaq was also self conscious and still is a thin skinned faggot, didn't stop him for hauling his fat ass around the NBA until he was 40.

>>76683957
Shaq, assuming I'm able to manage him and make him lose weight and train hard in order to avoid getting elephant feet.

>>76690712
>>76690659
lebron is playing in the easiest era of NBA history, rings are meaningless especially when he's not even top 5 among his peers

>>76690829
>lebron is playing in the easiest era of NBA history
That was the 60s. Nobody will have as easy as Wilt and Russell playing against unathletic white guys anymore.

>>76690830
Agreed

>>76683957
Team - Spurs
Player - Shaw

Parker
Green
Kawhi
Aldridge
Shaq

Literally Shaq and Kobe 3.0

>>76683957
Tmac, just because he is motherfucking prime tmac

>>76690829
>lebron is playing in the easiest era of NBA history,
This era is the strongest by far. You put this Warriors against the dream team and they would sweep them

>>76686010
what is the fucking obsession with reddit jesus Christ let it go. Did reddit marry your mom when she divorced your dad and he took away your xbox and made you call him daddy? I've been on 4chan for years and this shit still triggers why the fuck is it brought up on every board literally everyday.

4chan is an absolute non-thought on Reddit (or anywhere else in the world), it is virtually never mentioned yet for some reason I scroll past the word every single day all over this site no matter what threads I'm in on what boards.

>>76690960
t. reddit

>>76690960
Hey reddit

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>>76690960

wew, calm down reddit.

>>76684312
Are you literally this dumb?

>>76684542
Durant scored more points

>>76690960
Could you be more reddit?

>>76685227
Shaw >> Duncan >>> Dirk >>>> LeCrab desu

>>76685014
>if someone like Anthony Davis can unironically average 30 points and 10 rebounds in this era
What the fuck does this even mean? How would one "ironically" average anything?

>>76691021
>Duncan
R E D D I T

>>76690433
>65fg%
Probably even higher senpai, DeAndre Jordan and Boogie Cousins are the only centers who can even hope to keep up with prime Shaw today.

>>76690985
>confusing 2016 lebron with 2017 lebron
kek cuck. 2016 lebron is GOAT
>>76690227
>mavs
Heat weren't playing with any chemistry
>celtics
his 2nd best player was zydrunas ilgauskas on his 5th ankle sprain of the season
>spurs
it's the fucking spurs, they beat everyone. he also beat the spurs dumbass
>durant's warriors
yeah he went up against 4 all stars and 2 first ballot hofers, that's like expecting him to singlehandedly beat prime Jordan Bulls. keep in mind that he DID singlehandedly beat the Warriors sans Durant and with Harrison Barnes and a better C, leading the finals in EVERY SINGLE STAT

Yup Lebron is the GOAT, thanks for reminding everyone.

So in this mythical realm where we get to choose one of these guys are the officials actually going to call Shaq for offensive fouls? Because if so he's fucking worthless. If not, he's a good choice.

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>>76690411
>always plays hard.

Did you watch the finals? He did shit on defense and the glass. He was literally just focused on getting his triple double so it looks less bad when he loses.

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>>76690829
>what is thr 50's-60's
>not even top 5 among his peer

>>76690960

Reddit steals oc and memes from 4chan all of the time. They even have a really popular sub that is dedicated to 4chan posts.

>>76687440
>Iverson had the same help Lehype had

kys

Shaq literally terrified you if he played against your team.

Even as a Sixer fag, AI shouldn't be included on this list. Dwyane Wade was more dominant in his prime than Iverson was.

>>76684598
Tmac is like a career 40% shooter.

if you actually watched shaq more than the highlights you'd realize he was an incomplete player that really can't at all be compared to lebron

>>76683957
Shaq.

That was easy.

>>76684851
Shaq would be more dominate in today's game, because there aren't any good centers in the NBA now. If Shaq played now he would average 40 points and probably 20 boards every night.

>b....but Muh small ball

It works now because of the lack of good bigs.

>>76693353
>that flag
If you actually had pubes and watched the NBA you'd understand

>>76683957
Shaq, not even debatable. They had to start allowing zone defense in the NBA which never happened before because he was so dominant. Also he changed strategy with "hack-a-shaq" which didn't work overall.

He who doesn't pic Shak is a fool.

Is there even any other player that has had is impact on every team he's been?

>>76683957
Lebron

How can you guys possibly still ignore analytics?

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>leave shaq to us!

>>76693353
maybe if you only started watching Shaq play past 06.

Late 90s Shaq into Lakers Shaq is a Top 3 player of all time

>>76693877
Admit that your a dude who didn't watch prime Shaw play so you just go to basketball reference, bring em both up, compare PER and 1 or 2 other (((advanced stats)))

Little boys who never played sports think analytics are the word of god. They're worthless for football and instant this person has no clue what is going on give away (if you need explained why advanced stats don't work for fb then you fall into that category) However they're objectively great for baseball, which means they have their pros and cons, they're neither worthless nor great for basketball

>>76695760

Hello Charles Barkley, did you enjoy your NHL playoffs?

>>76695873
nice argument

>>76695760
For the filthy casuals who trot them out in reagrds to FB:

There are too many moving parts in football:

EX) A receiver is running a timing route, he's supposed to break to the sideline and the ball will be there when he turns around. Instead he breaks towards the middle of the field...The QB throws a perfect pass that would've been a first down and is instead an int. How is the quantified by someone who doesn't even know the play call no less.

Conversely baseball is an individual sport disguised as a team sport. When you're at the plate, the object is to hit the ball. You get so many at bats over 180 games that it boils down to a statistical science when this batter gets this pitch he will hit it to this spot X% of the time.

That is not football, the sample size is far too small and there are too many unaccountable variables. Basketball is a mix between the two. They have some value, but simply 'watching the tape' like they do in fb has just as much. You can't go to bball reference and objectively tell me which player out of any group was better because you looked at 3 numbers.


>>76695873
youre welcome for the education in sports and math

>>76684416
Give him a break, he's a lebron dick rider, reading obviously isn't his strong suit

>>76691039
James harden averaging all his points but going to the line as a result of flopping so fucking much

>>76684851
Typical retarded lebron nuthugger. There is no player in the league today that could handle shaq

>>76695873
respond to >>76695975
you fucking coward if not just to say wow you're completely right

>>76685980
Then you haven't watched this year's finals

The true lebron stopper is a finals series. Put him on the big stage and watch him shit the bed

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>>76684167
Just fuck my league up real quick. This team would be unstoppable.

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>>76695494
webber on eternal suicide watch

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Why would anybody take LLLLLeBron?

Only star that had to be carried by the refs.

>>76687562
Food for thought. In a single season jordan averaged 35 points on 53% shooting, won mvp, dpoty, and contributed 6 assists and 5 rebounds a game.

At the end of the next season Doug Collins converted jordan to point guard for a stretch of 11 games, in 10 of which he averaged a triple double and overall for that stretch averaged 33.6 ppg 11.4 apg and 10.8 rpg. Of course, this didn't translate to all wins and jordan, unlike some other players who play point despite not being a point guard, isn't some stat obsessed ball hog faggot who is more concerned about stuffing his stat sheet than winning.

In 92-93 jordan had 32.6 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 5.5 apg and put up 64 points on Shaws magic

In 89-90 jordan had 33.6 ppg, 6.9 rpg and 6.3 apg

Not saying you're wrong because shaw was a force of nature, but there is certainly argument to be had because jordan long dicked the league like no other

>>76688090
Eh, prime magic johnson, averaging 22.5 ppg, 12.8 apg, and 7.8 rpg and prime bird putting up 28.7 ppg on 52/43/88, 6.6 apg and 10.5 rpg are both certainly in with a shout (bird also had a season putting up 29.9 ppg on 53/41/92, 6.1 apg and 9.3 rpg)

>>76683957
I chose shaq
Shaq > Dirk > LeBron > AI > TMac

>>76686238
This bullsbro knows wassup.

>>76696776
le sacramento series face
le blazers series face
le mavericks series face

>>76690328
Shaq would also make you a perennial contender in the joke that is the eastern conference

In fact, a lot of the greats would

>>76697239
80's and 90's greats woule barely make it into an nba squad

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>>76697269

Why do Europeans pretend to watch basketball? Just fuck off back to your shitty soccer.

>>76697269
>that flag
Spain poster is worst poster always

>>76699073
>>76699177
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P84-B8sVpc
Have you even watch how they played back then?

IdI'd take a prime Shaq giving 80% effort over everyone but Jordan.

Prime Shaq was a force of nature

>>76691342
T. Kings fan
Get over it

>>76690738
nash is a poor mans stockton

>>76699073
>>76699177
oh no, radical americans feeling superior, never seen that one before, good job guys, we can feel your insecurities

>>76683957
S H A Q

>>76684167

LeBron
Jordan
Pippen
Rodman
Hakeem


win pretty easily