>chokes a 4-1 balloon door lead >chokes 3 international

he can do fancy dribbles, it captures the adhd audience

he can turn with the ball really fast and pass to neymar

he used to be quite good, people can't let go

>>76551181
this desu. people just cant understand Barcelona's time is over, they're all a dead team.

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>>76551152
Is autism a fancy dribble?

>>76551144

>but it's ok, because look at how he trashed Osasuna with two amazing dribbles to make it 5-0.

>>76551181
>>76551223
>flags
Not even surprised 2bh, It will be glorious to see messi in 5 years still dribbling past 3 defenders and ronaldo having to re-adjust his piss bag every 2 mins screaming for bale to assist him

>>76551825
>reeee he can dribble, can't lead the team to success, but can dribble reeeee

He is going to win the wc

>>76552056
if he accepts a secondary role in the team and plays only in friendlies and against weak teams like Iran or Nigeria, he might. argentina has a mighty team, but having him dragging his feet through matches in WC knock outs is like playing with one less, nobody can win that way

>>76552056
With that Argentina team? Nah.

I don't even want them to win but it would finally shut up the tsunaldo fags since their only counter-argument would shatter and certify Messi as the GOAT.

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Another messi/cr7 thread made by 7yo/retard

have fun morons

No Xavi or Prime Iniesta has left him vulnerable

>>76551825
>Messi has done nothing relevant recently that burgers are resorting to what ifs and the future
kek embarrassing desu

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>>76551144>>76551160
>>76551223
>>76552949
THE GAME PENALDO/TAP IN BOY GOT EXPOSED, BY HIM BEING SHIT AS ALWAYS. Why do 12 year old fags that know nothing about football rate this shiter....is it because of his underwear pics lol. Penaldo cant even get past one person anymore he is finshed next season.

>>76553625
>EXPOSED
As the GOAT?

>>76553625
>score meaningless goal
>takes off his shirt and poses likes he's the goat

has there ever been a more pathetic player than leonel "la pulga" messi?

His highlight videos against Tajikistan in a friendly versus Argentina get so many upvotes on Reddit though

>>76552123
Unless Messi takes a shitty Argentina team to a WC title and a shitty team in on the of tbig leagues to a league title he will NEVER be GOAT.

Maradona is and will always be GOAT. No 12 year olds can change that fact.

>>76553999
I'd hardly consider Di Maria, Dybala, Aguero, Icardi, Fazio, Banega, Otamendi, Masc, Gaitan, to be shitty. Even if some don't perform for the NT. Messi has proven to be more ghost like than Higuain

>>76553625
>TAP IN BOY
>messi literally scored 2 tapins that game
Lol?

>>76554172
>I'd hardly consider Di Maria, Dybala, Aguero, Icardi, Fazio, Banega, Otamendi, Masc, Gaitan, to be shitty.

>this flag

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>>76555711
Canada Z would humiliate Argentina 1986

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He still has more trophies, goals and assists than Ronaldo with 3 seasons fewer

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>>76555786
>this post
LMAO
Ronaldo is literally the highest scoring player in europe, EVER. All time leader in goal AND assists in the CL. And even has a better goal AND assist ratio than messhit (spits on ground) in la liga

>>76555922
>muh statpadding
>muh offside Bayern goals
>muh Modric and Isco do the Messi dribbling and assisting while I wait for my 1v1 tap in and tsuuuuuu into the camera
Kek

>>76556452
>muh body feint vs L' Hospitalet
>muh tap in from Iniesta
LOL

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>>76553750

>>76556493
>meaningless goal
>in the decima

>>76556474
>Muh dribbling past Halal midfield to cuck them in their home.
>muh carry the team so hard with my own set up goals while Tsu doesnt do anything for months at a time
Ftfy.

>>76552109

ignore this retarded nigger

>>76556515
>carry the team
How many trophies has he won without Iniesta again?

>>76556493
>celebrating a gifted penalty in the last minute after Atletico broke down
>celebrating taking the FIFTH pen (not even man enough to take the first pen) in the rematch final
Cant make this shit up.

>>76556513
>Already 3-1 up
>Not meaningless

>>76556452
>you now remember Messi not giving two shits about the golden shoe or Pichichi in the season before this one that he deliberately gave his pens to Nerman and Ratking while Ronald kept stat padding hard to keep up

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>>76556604
maybe its because messi literally cant score penalties

>ronaldo got a balon d'or last year because he won two finals where he was shit and subbed off after 20 minutes
Ronaldo, the true scam artist of our generation

>>76556620
The funny thing is he has a higher conversion rate with Argentina than Ronaldo does with Portgual

>>76551144
>balloon door lead
Cringe

>>76556650
yet misses the ones that matter

>>76556650
The funny thing is Ronaldo has a international trophy

>>76556691
*

>>76556691
Because of an african with bigger balls in playing a final while he disappeared against Iceland lel

>>76556691
Oh yeah that trophy where he didn't really play in the final. He's a choker at the World Cup btw. His only goals are a penalty, a 1v1 goal (the 6th goal) vs North Korea, and a goal after a failed clearance vs Ghana in the group stages where he was eliminated.

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>>76556796
>>76556812
>>76556850
Maybe if messi was any good then he would have one too

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>>76556850
>>76556812
>>76556796
TSU lil niggas

>>76553625
>le best dribbler is the best player meme
a fucking leaf

>>76556889
>"This trophy is too heavy, Eder pls pick it up for me while I kiss it and tsuuuuuu to reporters how I singlehandedly led Portugal to victory as a cheerleader"

>>76556895
An ICE officer will be dispatched to your residence TSUUUUUUUN

>>76556452
>1(ONE) goal in CL knock-out stages and it is a fucking penalty

>>76556889
Nah, because he didn't have Eder carrying him. How many minutes did he play in that final btw?

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>>76556907
Ronaldo lifts trophies and takes champagne showers. Messi drowns in his own tears while his country LITERALLY boos him

>>76556921
Ronaldo deserves it this year. What about last year?

>>76556934
Doesn't Messi have more trophies? I think so.

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>>76551144
Daily reminder that Messi will never win a Ballon d'or again now that Blatter is no longer head of FIFA

>>76556955
>0 (zero) trophies without Iniesta
>Ronaldo has a more extensive trophy cabinet from his Man U days and his international trophy
Keep posting

>>76556976
>Manurewinstheleague.
>win nothing at Uefadrid until refball
>a fucking African won the Euros finals for him
Wow...... so this is...... the power........ of tsu

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>be injected with steroids and HGH from 11 years old
>play with legends of the game
>have Blatter give you every balon dor
>come short against a random kid from an island coming from poverty who's main interest is fashion
how embarrassing

>>76556995
It's a mudslime in Cucknada.

@76557016
>muh poverty
kek

KEK

Messi's from a 3rd world country and Ronaldo from the first world

>>76556976
Are you sure about that?

>8 league trophies for Messi, 5 Ronaldo
>4 CL for Messi and Ronaldo
>5 big domestic cups for Messi vs 3 big domestic cups Ronaldo
>6 little domestic cups for Messi vs 4 little domestic cups for Ronaldo
>3 club world cups for Messi and Ronaldo
>3 uefa super cups for Messi, 1 for Ronaldo
>1 Euro for Ronaldo, 0 copa america for Messi
>I won't count it, but Messi won olympics

Looks like 8 more trophies in Messi's favor. Geeze, it looks like Messi has more trophies even though he's 2 years younger.

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>>76557101
*yawn*

>>76552123
>the Euro
>only argument
Friendly reminder this isn't January anymore, Ronaldo has just tied Messi in Golden Balls and has 4 champions League being the posterboy (Messi didn't play a single minute on the decisive stages in 2006)

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>>76557126
Thank you for realizing you were wrong. I'll take the yawn as my win. Later bruh.

>>76557131
>Instagram d'ors
>bragging about CLs where Ronald was useless in at least 2 of them - 2016 specifically.
No.

>>76551144
why is he so sad?

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>europes top scorer ever
>champions league top scorer and assister ever
>better goal and assist ratio than messi in his own league
>3 peat epl
>international trophy
>better international goal ratio
>first and only player to score in 3 champions leagues
>most goals scored in a single cl campaign
>epl golden boot as a classic winger
>most el classicos scored in a row
>isnt hated by his countrymen
This is getting boring. I'll take a short break from these debate threads
TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>76557177
>2016 specifically.
>scoring 16 goals
>single-handedly deciding R16 and QF
>top scorer
>useless

>american soccer education

How is this even debatable? The choice is obvious

>>76551360
that isn't autism. lurking behind joe hart waiting for him to fuck up is just common sense

>>76557201
16 goals stat is retarded because as we all know, only goals that were in 2016 should count. Group stages were in 2015.

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>chokes 3 finals in a row
>disappears against psg and juve
>misses penalties
>suddenly ghost without iniesta and xavi
>0 (zero) titles without iniesta
>plays alongside neymar and suarez and cant even touch ronaldo in assists
>supposed to be a midfielder now
>isnt rated by his country
>no airport in his namesake

>>76557201
>literally statpadded against Shaktar, Malmoo
>Uefadrid lucky draw with Roma and Wolfsmeme
>0 (zero) goals against the big teams in the CL
>disappears in the final and was so poor
Literally the most embarrassing way to win a CL

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>>76557235
>can't even touch ronaldo in assists
What a great stat assists are. It's almost like you need other players to finish those chances.

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>waaaahhhhh its not my fault i have to play with scrubs like higuain, gago and di maria
>what do you mean ronaldo has a title with these players?
>REEEEEEEEE please rate me /sp/
>blatter please give me a bloon drawer

>>76557254
>Tsuu is too shit and garbage to even attempt his stepovers these days
Sad!

>>76557254
the chances created stat is the most important in Messi's playstyle

Only a guy who doesn't watch him play would doubt his skills. He may not get enough assists just because Suárez misses 10 one-on-one per game. But Messi generates lots of oportunities and give long passes like he was Pirlo or Xavi

>>76557297
Nah, Ronaldo is great too

He just knows he's getting older and should be attempting so many dribbles. He's playing more as a centreforward these days, with Benzema taking his place in the wing


They just have different styles, you can rate both at the same time

>>76557313
I was talking about his overall game. He's been a trainwreck when he isn't poaching goals which is what he's good at.

>>76557300
>its now suarez's fault for messi's decline

>>76557332
He just changed his style, you gotta understand he's 32 years old

>>76557337
Your mistake is in the first premise, you are suggesting Messi is in decline which is false

Just beacuse Cristiano had a great season it doesn't mean Messi is getting worse

>>76557348
Lots of players can still dribble at an advanced age. Robben still does it at 34 even though he lost his edge a bit.

>>76557348
he lost his influence in the big matches, people didn't realize how important xaviniesta were and now he just looks lost. everty single game iniesta doesn't play it's like he's playing with argentina. I guess you're right, it's not so much he's getting worse, it's just he was never that good

>>76557380
>being this retarded.
And to think these monkeys even go on to claim Ronald carries Halal.

>>76557366
Robben hasn't been elite for a long time, Ronaldo and Cristiano are the undisputed #1 and #2 right now

>>76557380
As compared to Cristiano? He isn't that relevant neither

You can't deny Real Madrid is 10 times more stacked than Barcelona

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Messi fans' problem is tha they won't admit that Ronaldo is better because it shatters their illusion that they created years ago.
Ronaldo has always been amazing in style, stats, and titles with changing teams, in multiple teams. Messi is useless without Iniesta. Simple. Take away Iniesta you are left with a highly rated Ederson. Messi can't be taken seriously without a title without Iniesta on the pitch.

>messi has 0 (zero) titles without iniesta
>messi has 0 (zero) titles without iniesta
>messi has 0 (zero) titles without iniesta
>messi has 0 (zero) titles without iniesta

I know it hurts to see you favourite player be proven first hand that he's second best but please don't let your pride get in the way of a good thing.

>>76557428
Of course Messi won all his titles alongside Iniesta, both are 1-club-players

Your argument is dumb as fuck, you are using the mercenary character of Real Madrid players as something positive

>>76557428
This 2bh

>>76557394
he literally does
>>76557406
real's game is all about individuals, ronaldo is the one that always stoods out because he's the best, superbarça was about the collective, messi is getting exposed like in the nt because that collective is not working anymore (no xaviniesta, the key pieces)

>>76557428
Bro, nobody finds Ronaldo stylish on the pitch. This is'n't 2007 United Ronaldo. He's a guy that does not attempt many dribbles, does not have vision, etc... he's a goal scoring machine.

People find Zidane, Messi, Maradona, etc... great to watch. Not Ronaldo. That is unless you're some african or something. They love that guy.

>>76557428
>play in a stacked team that dominates England
>play in a billion dollar squad, the current one being the most stacked squad in history in all positions
>"he's proven himself la' "

>>76557436
>>76557453
>>76557454
Let it go. He's a one trick pony.
>0 (zero) goals at the wc after playing iran and bosnia

>>76557454
inb4 they point out the title "he won" with portugal

>>76557449
The only reason Ronald is in the conversation is because how good Madrid is. When players like James and Morata are on the bench, that's the definition of stacked

He doesnt do anything but statpad in the final third and score. When Ronald scores goals it's because Madrid are good. When Ronald disappears it's because Madrid has been exposed. Ronald has never carried Madrid like Messi has with Barcelona this season. Messi alone bailed out a mediocre Barca multiple times in the title race but when Barca loses it's suddenly his fault.

>it's another amerigrease sucks Missis dick again

I hate these reruns

>>76557449
I know y'all are baiting but I'll explain it to you like you didn't watch the sport (you probably don't, if you are unironically talking shit about Messi)

With the NT, if you watch ANY game, the opponent team plays triple or quadruple defense on Messi, they just don't let him play. Please try to watch Argentina play in the future and you'll see this, and pay attention at what do the midfielders and centreforwards do, they don't show for a pass not return the ball when he passes and makes a run

>>76557454
>billion dollar squad
Like 2009-2012 Barcelona?

>>76557496
If you're so triggered perhaps self deport your subhuman shitskin ass back to Mexico? You can TSUUUUU with the ICE agents on the ride back!

>>76557513
>triple or quadruple defense
Same with Ronaldo, he still doesn't manage to choke 3 (three) finals in a row

Messi is imo better overall because he can put up a lot of goals but also drag defenders to him and create some good chances for his team.
However, this criticism of Ronaldo being carried by his team is a garbage argument. Barca was light-years ahead of Real in talent in the 09-10-11-12 years. Ronaldo put up 53 goals and 15 assists in 2010-2011 and only won a fucking copa. In 2011-2012 he put up 60 goals and 15 assists and won the league. In 2012-2013 he put up 55 goals and 12 assists and won fucking nothing. He simply has a better team to work with now just like Messi did back then.

>>76557525
Because he didn't play them...

He choked that one against Greece and choked against France, "getting injured". He just chocked like di María with a injury by stress, in other words, they shit the pants

Cristiano didn't play a WC final, so you can't talk about Messi playing his final (in that WC Ronaldo didn't even make it out of the groups stage, in a group with the USA and Ghana)

>>76557516
Pep's squad was nowhere near stacked at any point. He had shitters like Bojan, Jeffren play in CL and clasico games while le headbutt man can just pick between Modric or Bale or Isco or Carvajal in the midfield or Asensio and Morata or Nacho or Lucas.

>>76557544
xavi, iniesta, etoo, villa, ibra...
its time to stop posting

>>76557406
>As compared to Cristiano? He isn't that relevant neither
think about it. CL 2016 and 2017
>2016
ronaldo was injured in 2016 and could only play the final and the 2nd leg of the semis not fully fit. real struggled to score, needed an own goal to go to the final and a set piece goal to go to penalties in the final
>2017
ronaldo is fully fit.
hat trick in the semis to decide the tie in the first leg
final decided with 30 minutes to go after his brace
>>76557513
I'm not talking shit about him, he's a good player. but this is a goat discussion and I judge performances, and their influence. argentina needs to realize he's not going to save them, because argentina is not barcelona. doesn't have xavi or iniesta. argentina needs to become argentina. they'll have more chances if messi is benched in the big matches for the world cup, because it's 11 players running instead of 10

>>76557562
The overperformed fielding 5 or 6 Youth Academy products and could afford buying players like Ibra

Etoo wasn't a big deal before joining Barcelona

>>76557562
>Ibra
Also none of those forwards played at the same time either. And no one in Barca was ever as good as Xavi and Iniesta so just bringing them up is retarded.
>a leaf

>>76557496
Nice try chicano

I know you hate argies for some reason.

>>76557544
forgot henry too
>Morata or Nacho or Lucas
yeah its time to stop posting
>>76557538
>>76557578
>>76557583
>Greece
>expecting a 19 year old winger to carry you to glory
he came back and won 2016
>he didnt play
you can stop posting too
messi still doesnt have shit


>messi has 0 (zero) titles without iniesta

stop ignoring this

>>76557594
Holy shit, Messi hasn't won a title with a guy who has been his teammate forever.

>>76557594
Olympic gold medal > Euros

You talking like Cristiano won a fucking World Cup, he just won a mickey mouse title. Even Greece has won that shit

>>76557604
olympics is an u23 tournament
>>76557600
why are you still posting? i said you csn stop. you lost. its over. there is nothing you can say to change this

>>76557594
>chokes in 2004
>doesnt play in 2016 final
>wants to discount Messi's first CL because he didnt play the final while conveniently giving tsu brownie points for being a cheerleader last year
Umm no sweetie.

>>76557620
the euros is just a continental tournament, the olympic is global

>>76557521
No thanks I like living here. You can take take yourself back to rebbit if you get triggered so easily

in missi v pendaldo threads we are all just pretending to be retarded right?

>>76557587
I don't hate argies I happen to like fucking their women

>>76557634
>Where's your green card Mister Hernandez Burrito Tacobell?
>"T-Tsuu senor...."

>>76557626
>choke in 2007
>ghost in 2014
>choke in 2015
>choke in 2016
>retire

>>76557653
Ronaldofags are unironically that retarded

>>76557661
>getting so BTFO that you have to resort to ad hominem
You don't belong here I think reddit suits you more you'll get more upboats there

>>76557653
Nah. The legit Ronaldo fags believe Hugo Sanchez > Maradona, Muller > Cruyff, etc...

>>76557685
>"N-no s-stop bullying me g-go back to r-reddit!"
>"B-BTFO"
Im sorry but you were BTFO the moment you admitted to being a greasy shitskin spic.

>>76557653
Yup. Ronaldo has stats and titles. Messi has american opinions

>>76557714
Messi has more titles, goals and assists than Ronaldo, despite the fact that he's more than 2 years younger

Your only "argument" is that Messi didn't win a title with the NT but Ronaldo was lucky enough to have Eder to score for him while he was watching the game from the bench

>>76557727
>more goals and assists than Ronaldo
Again, no he doesn't. Do some research.

>>76557712
>getting so butt hurt on a newfoundland needle point making website
Rebbitors should go and stay go 2bh

>>76557741
Assists yes, goals Cristiano has a few more but has almost 200 more caps

It's rather obvious that Messi will retire with more goals than Cristiano

>>76557727
>goals
no
>titles
again, all with Xaviniesta Barcelona. that's the point, the world cup and twice Euro winners made the difference not Messi

>>76557791
>all with Xaviniesta Barcelona
not an argument

>>76557783
>will retire with more goals than Cristiano
Speculation. Why does he have a weaker la liga goal and assist ratio than ronaldo?
Ronaldo is the highest goalscorer EVER in europe and he's still going strong while messi has been sputtering for a while now. Keep posting

>>76557513
>the opponent team plays triple or quadruple defense on Messi, they just don't let him play.
yes, because without Barça he's helpless, and the only thing he can try is like the autist he is, run against the defense, try to beat everybody and score, so the opponents only have to mark him will so that he doesn't
he has no more resources, making him useless against any decent team
>>76557809
that's the basis of the argument nigga

>People actually rate the gold ball

>>76557846
I do, and Messi currently has 5. Ronaldo has 4.

>>76557839
He's just spewing shit out of his keyboard without even stat checking. He can't even remember Ronaldo was a classic winger until his second season at madrid. He wants to be right but he won't be

>>76557809
you might get lucky, sampaoli looks smart and ambitious, so if he's brave he'll convince messi to a more secondary role and at least argentina has a chance of winning the world cup.
we'll see.
>>76557783
>It's rather obvious that Messi will retire with more goals than Cristiano
kek messi is an manlet, ronaldo is a physical portentous. that means messi will be extinguished at 31-32 tops like his manlet friend iniesta and ronaldo will surpass Zlatan longevity.

>>76557839
Jesus christ how can someone be this delusional? You can suck off your homosexual statpadder all you want since he had a good season refball aside, just dont EVER go full retard like this, even for shitposting.

>>76557858
>classic winger until his second season at Madrid
I thought you were a Ronaldo fag? You don't even know the transition from 2007 to 2008 Ronaldo? Step your game up.

>>76557839
>>76557883
Go to sleep ronnie.

>>76557902
I do, you dont. He was a classic winger in his first season at madrid. He transitioned (lol) at utd but went back. he switched again after

>>76551144
can you shitskins go back to re.ddit already
filthy somalian

>>76557930
>until 2nd season at madrid
Oh, so you didn't say this? Wait, so Messi was always a straight up forward?

Go to bed kid. You've exposed how old you are.

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>>76557937
LUTEFISH HAHA HINGADINGADERGEN

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Ronaldo has been carried his whole career. Carried by WorkHorse Rooney and Sir Alex, Now being carried by Mordric, Isco and stacked all around team and Bench. During the Finals, The only players that I was nervous about when they had the ball was Mordric, Isco and Marcelo on Madrid Side. Ronaldo doesn't inspire the fear that those players inspire. He doesn't even come close to inspiring the fear the Messi or Robben inspires when he has the ball. This is because he is a statpadding tap in fag. Take away Isco and Mordric, and Ronaldo looks like shit because they won't be there to literally spoon feed him goals. B..bb...But TSUUUUUUUUUUUU Amiright?

>>76551825
can't wait to see Messi dribble Argentina out of WC qualifying

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>>76561450

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>>76561450

>>76561450
objectively tru

>>76556633
This. People say "hurr Rinaldo has a euro" uhh didnt that beef jerky looking nigga get carted off the field in the first 10 minutes?

>>76561753
Funny to see this coming from a country that went out in the group stage of the last world cup, and only got in through playoffs to begin with.

>>76561862
you'll find it less funny now that you're struggling to qualify in the fucking conmemebol

>>76553750
>>score meaningless goal

>beating your rival is meaningless

fucking yuros

>>76562029
>still lose the league
>take your shirt off and act like a king despite literally scoring a tap in
ronaldo didnt go apeshit when he scored the last minute goal in madrids last classico win

>>76561971
Conmebol qualifying isnt a joke like Uefa qualifying though. The likes of Paraguay or Ecuador would be automatic playoff 2nd placed teams in your garbage first round robin

>>76562303
>tap in
>from 10+ meters away
Lel

>>76561971
>Having the gall to utter 'conmemebol' when poortugal has to contend with fearsome and renown powerhouses such as Faroe islands, Andorra, Latvia, and 21st century Hungary, and not even being capable of topping that barren wasteland

good bait

messi being called the goat is opinionated
ronaldo being called the goat is factual