How the fuck do we stop La Liga next year? CL is so fucking

Get better hans.
RM and Barca are going to be stronger next year, so be prepared.

>>76326431

GIT GUD

not our fault your 2017/18 season hasn't even began and buyern has already won it.

All teams should honestly park the bus and hold out for marginal victories

If Madrid get past the quarters, then they're probably winning th CL again.

The only team that can beat Madrid over two legs is Barca or maybe Monaco.

You can only beat RM with an equal or superior attack.

Because RM will score eventually.

>>76326534
Dortmund did pretty well against Halal in the group stages as well

too bad they're mentally weak and surrender the CL when their bus gets blown up

>>76326534
In the final is near impossible, so yes, it should be a two legs match. Everyone could see yesterday that, one way or another, real scores and don't stop until the end.

>Doing better than one of the teams UEFA hand picks to win the UCL

Do you still think it's legit? Do you think WWE is legit?

>>76326698
A bit of a gray area, they are easily more dominant than all the other European giants

>>76326711
Id assume dominance comes naturally when it's given to you

>>76326698
>>76326729
lmao this salt

>>76326729
They've had the best training ground, very good domestic competition with Sevilla, Atletico and others

Back in the mid-2000s when the EPL was domestically insane the English clubs dominated the CL, peaked at 2008, the Germans had a bit of dominance around 2013 because of Dortmund and Leverkusen

i unironically believed Bayern had the most stacked squad in Europe from 2013 to 2016.
yet they never won anything with it.

meanwhile Real suddenly started bringing the best out of players that have been around forever and started winning 3 fucking CLs in 4 years

>>76326764
*2014 to 2016

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>>76326755
>Very good domestic competition

>>76326534
>Monaco
they will lose half of their team this summer

The question is, who is going to be better than Madrid next year?

I can see all key man staying and obviously Zidane will stay.

Will take a huge, huge effort to stop them winning again.

If Ronaldo maintain this level, I really can't see anyone coming close.

Like >>76326534 said.

Only Barca in a two legged match is stopping them.

>>76326800
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8js3H3zhhdc

>>76326764
Its even worse, look how many European trophies Bayern's golden generation produced in the past decade

>>76326779
They're European index, the metric for European club performance and seeding, has increased immensely and consistently, because of Sevilla, Bilbao, Atletico, Sociedad, Villareal, etc

Why has England's poor European performance coincided with Leicester's and Tottenham's dominance of the league?

>>76326779
Why are brits so insecure?

>>76326431
Sanchez, a Modric tier cm and a top level cb to Chelsea and they have a shot.

>>76326825
Bayern are cucks.

They shit the bed when shit really gets going.

>>76326825
>Conflating spanish European performance with domestic competition
>Hurr why are English teams doing worse when their domestic league is insanely competitive

>>76326764
>i unironically believed Bayern had the most stacked squad in Europe from 2013 to 2016.
Please Hans the Heynkes meme was a 1 season wonder.It coincided with Barça collapsing,Madrid imploding and Atleti and Juve being baby teams.They would have never won under any other circumstances.Madrid was and is better than Bayern player by player even counting bench players

>>76326837
>a Modric tier cm

there isn't one

>>76326854
>Bouremouth is better than Celta because Sky sports said that every team in the premier league was a threat
Nice logic Nigel

>>76326870
Hard times baby.

>>76326800
>Only Barca in a two legged match is stopping them.
100% Agree, but I also expect a massive upset from a second-rank team, dressing room fallout, Zidane leaving after two UCLs like Del Bosque

Zidane is a powerful personality but he won't keep clamps on the egos

>>76326854
Conte literally reverted to a 3-4-3 after the Arsenal defeat and walked to the league, Pochettino's consistency made him look good after the giants faltered, and the reason Leicester were good was team tactics like Atletico, whom they coincidentally lost to in the UCL

Manchester City with Guardiola lost to Monaco, even a league you obviously consider lesser to the EPL

>>76326837
Chelsea aren't keeping Madrid out though that's the problem.

What ever happens next year, it will be an upset if RM don't win again.

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>>76326870
>Implying Kova isn't Modric 2.0
>Implying he is not absorving everything from master Modric and become his succesor
Flo is always one step ahead of everyone else

>>76326764
they're stacked but do they have a player as good as messi/ronaldo? that's your difference pal

eplel needs to step up

buyern and đubrentus are retirement homes, psg and pathetico are mentally weaker than my local team, monaco and dortmund don't have the depth

unless britbongs step it up, farca and halal will dominate again

>>76326431
Video referee.
Oh wait, UEFA don't want to implement that just yet. :^)

Madrid won't be as hungry next year, r-right?

>>76326954
>do they have a player as good as messi/ronaldo
LCIM_smug.jpg

>>76326966
With video referee Buyern would have lost 3-0 at Bernabeu Hans

>>76326941
debatable, but even then he's not Modric-tier yet and won't be for quite a while

>>76326431
Madrid plays exciting, strong, OSSSS!

Bloedes Schwein!

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>>76326977
even hungrier

As long as the competition in la liga is a joke, nothing will change. Real can afford to rest key players against 90% of teams in the league, so they're fully fresh in the CL. Premier League teams don't have that luxury. You saw how fit Real looked yesterday, harassing Juve for the full 90 mins, who looked so tired and lethargic in comparison in that second half.

>>76326954
the kike knows

>>76326984
lel

>>76326977
Just imagining the amount of cock sucking Zidane would get from winning again is probably gonna drive him to the limit.

>>76327019
halal B would unironically be top 4 in epl

>>76327051
>meme

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>>76326977
No one has won three (3) CL in a row, real will nbe hungrier

>>76326864
>the Heynkes meme was a 1 season wonder
Stop talking about football, thanks.

>>76327019
>la liga is a joke
Stop talking about football, thanks.

>>76326431
>buyern only buying players from own league
>eplel teams are delusional in general
>juve only buys madrid rejects

i dont think there is a way to stop it

>>76327096

Compared to Real and Barca, the competition is a joke.

Chelsea > Real

Spurs are probably on the same level as well. La Liga is a fucking joke compared to the hyper-competitive premier league, three teams have a realistic chance of winning it whereas 7 compete for the PL and teams have to fight tooth and nail just for the top four.

Look at Leicester, a shitty meme team that finished in the bottom half of the table reached the quarter finals and gave Atleti a run for their money purely because they weren't worrying about finishing top four and so could just focus on their CL fixtures.

English teams used to dominate the CL until City got pumped full of Arab money and Spurs stopped being shit. Now that the league is competitive they aren't as good, it's as simple as. Our league is just too good, and I'd rather have a strong league than have Chelsea and CIty win every year and dominate the CL like they would.

>>76327103
>>buyern only buying players from own league
That's Dortmund, m8.

enforce proper doping tests

>>76327163
At least disguise the bait.

3 / 10.

>>76327163
>Spurs are probably on the same level as well
They failed to qualify from a group with Leverkusen, CSKA and Monaco

>tfw Messi and Ronaldo are getting old and there's no way they can be replaced

La Liga dominance has like 2 years left, tops.

>>76326941
I'm worried about what's gonna happen to Halal Madrid when he dies desu

He's 70 after all

Say what you like about him, the man won't tolerate mediocrity

>>76327259
70 is young when you're rich

>>76327207

Because they play in a decent league and were on a pitch they never normally play on.

If Real played Spurs at White Hart Lane Spurs would dominate.

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*blocks your threepeat*

>>76327346
lad, they came third in a group containing neverkusen and cska "300 million in debt" moscow

and then they lost to fucking gent

other than that, bretty good bait

>>76326800

He is going spare his legs for the wc next year

>>76327096
Bale said you can relax in the second half against Liga teams.

>>76326431
We need to bribe the Refs like Real does.

>How the fuck do we stop La Liga next year?

Video Technology

No more diving.

>>76327234
Real can replace Ronaldo, but replacing Modric will be hard.

>>76327574
>"that's strange, the footage has corrupted, I guess the goal will have to stand"

There's no stopping the uefa obsession with the spanairds, it's been getting fucking pathetic is the last decade. So unabashed in their rigging

>>76327575
replace with who?

Who else is getting 10 goals against Bayern, Atletico and Juve?

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>>76327575
>replacing a guy who scored like all of your goals in the KO stage is easy

>replacing a sideways passing tranny is hard

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does anyone have the archive of the /sp/ ballon d'or 2014 thread where anon's were reacting to the first ever TSUUUU?

>>76327160
Compared to Barça and Real Chelsea is a joke lad

>>76326431
Premier League teams need to stop buying memes.

Doesn't help that our top 4 has lost all consistency either. It's different most years now.

>>76327615
Any other poacher like for example Lukaku. Maybe he only scores 8 instead of 10 but thats not that relevant. Without Modric though Ronaldo would have scored maybe 2 or 3.

>>76327259
I know lad. Flo is what made Real Madrid what it is today

>>76327575
>5 Goals against Buyern
>3 Against patetico
>2 Against jew

With modric, everyone hopes that kovakic will be the replace, but with ronaldo...

>>76326534
this
the only way to beat them is to outscore them

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Players are to happy and content. if your paid millions and fucking models for not winning you don't get hungry. Spanish football has always been like that, Lazy and soft, so they are best adapted to that. Clubs don't look for the next Makelele, the next Gattuso and so on. Gattuso would not even get a trial today. Morten Olsen (coach for Denmark for long time) said it didn't just matter to win but how you won. He wanted to play beautiful football.

>>76326854
>this delusion

>>76327704
Completely different player, Modric controls the whole midfield AND is a grade a chance creator. Kovacic is good at chance creation but he is nowhere close to Modrics controlling skills.

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i wish Mounited and Hala playedl in the same group next season

>>76327704
>10 goals in the last 5 KO games
That's amazing. Has anyone ever come close?

>>76327694
Lukaku doesn't have the athleticism nor finishing ability to beat three of the best defences in the world.

You think it's easy to just come to Madrid and score goals.

Look how many 'good' strikers of recent have gone there and done nothing.

>>76327748
That's why we hope that kovakic learns something, the other way is that tito Flo finds a young replace for modric if he doesn't have one yet, that i'm sure he has at least one

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>>76327718

>>76327797
>Look how many 'good' strikers of recent have gone there and done nothing.

Because they all have to play second fiddle to Ronaldo. Just look at all the games he's missed this season, Real still blew out teams by 2 or 3 goals

>>76327808
what I think he means is, setting out defensively, trying to keep the game tight, win a cage 1-0 or 2-1 against Madrid means you'll lose.

You have to try and attack their defence as its their only weak spot.

>>76326534
>If Madrid get past the quarters, then they're probably winning th CL again.

Reminder that people said this about Pep's barca for years and they never did it twice in a row. Winning constantly is hard psychologically, it's like trying to have another wank immediately after you've finished one.

>>76327806
Imo its more difficult to find someone like Modric who fills two roles in absolute world class manner than Ronaldo who fills only one. Ronaldo is probably the best striker at the moment, but finding someone who is close as good is not that hard, and that will be enough. But you will not find someone who is close as good in the double role that Modric plays. And that will make the whole Real play fall apart. If you replace him with a playmaker, Madrids rather mediocre defense will be exposed and they will concede a lot more. If you replace him with a defensive midfielder, the chance creation of Madrid will suffer a lot and no matter who is upfront he will score much less.

>>76327850
yh and what teams were these?

No way they're doing that in the CL without him.

get some insanely marketable players and uefa will throw some refball your way

If you want to beat Madrid or Barcelona (or even Atletico), first you have to improve your shit leagues.

And then have a project with the same squad for years.

>>76327935
Bayern almost beat them despite bribed Refs and down to 10 men.

Eriksen is next Modric

>>76327384
>gonde in europe

>>76327992
who?

>>76327992
I'd put my money on Ander Herrera or Thiago Alcantara.

>>76327983
Yeah, you had 2 penalties and 1 offside goal, but yet you lose hahaha Vidal should have been sent off at the first half, so thats reffball against Madrid tbqh familia.

You lost the QF because of Vidal and because you are natural chokers. Thats why Kroos left that shinking boat.

>>76328031
>can only beat Bayern when they are down to 10 men

See you next year mate.

>>76326431
get fucked, suleyman

>>76328022
Better keep your money. Nor Ander or Thiago are something similar to Modric.

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does he deserve the ballon d'or over ronaldo?

>>76327983
>buyern got two pathetic penalties
>buyernfag still complains

>>76327575
No joke I reckon Harry ant would make an excellent replacement for Ronaldo seeing as they're both no 9s

Kane got the golden boot twice in a row scoring 20+ a season in the league for a few years running in the most defensive league there is

He's a great link up player, scores all sorts of goals and most importantly is still improving

They should get him this year desu, ditch Benzema and stick Kane in

Get him before he hits his skill ceiling in England so he keeps improving in Spain

Imagine how good he could be with the worlds best midfield servicing him against la liga tier defence

Consider the fact that RM have done exceedingly well with big money transfers from Tottenham, you know I'm right

>>76328041
I hope you find good seats to witness the 3rd CL in a row.

>>76328038
>>76328038
>>76328038

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>>76328041
>can only beat Bayern when they are down to 10 men

check your Alzheimer's privilege, Hans.

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>tfw Dortmund has a better record against Spanish teams in recent years than Buyern

Help us, Obi-Watzke. You're our only hope.

>>76328178
thats because the piss color club usually gets relegated before they face the spanish teams.

>>76327866
They were refballed in 2010 which stopped them from winning 3 times in a row

>>76328202
But >we face Real Madrid nearly every year and >we never get buttfucked 0-4, fämpai.

>the derelict city of """la bestia negra"""

>>76328058
>ditch benzema

He is key to the attack.

He's the foil.

Why do you think he's been there almost 10 years ?

>>76328178
>le draw against Real in the group stages club

Say what you will about Conte's cup competition struggles, but his Chelsea is going to be a real threat in CL next year, you just know they're going to spend big this summer and add some ridiculous depth to the squad. Conte' Euro failures are overblown anyway, the only real disappointment was Benfica.

Poop's City - kek
Mourinho's Manure - quarterfinals exit
Bayern - always a possibility, they're literally a perennial contender
Liverpool - anything's possible with these guys
PSG - kek
Pakilona - quarterfinals exit
Atletico - perennial threat with Simeone

>>76328299
>le stand no chance against Real, Barca and Atletico in group stages, quarter and semi finals club

>>76328299
>le eliminated by Real, Barca, Atletico, Real club

>>76327876
Ronaldo's drive, movement and explosive ability is very hard to find.

>>76326431
Plummet your country in to debt and feed the animosity

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S O O N

>>76328388
boss tha

Barca buying Thiago and Verratti

>>76328380
The point is you dont need to replace Ronaldo 100%, finding someone who fills his shoes 90% is fine. Modric though is a one of a kind player. Somebody who can dominate the midfield completely AND be the probably best chance creator in the world at the same time is impossible to find, and that is at the end of the day what is putting Real ahead of all the other teams.

>>76326431
I'm going to not watch it like I did this year, that was great

>>76328462
>one of the best players ever is easily replaceable
>some tenor penny playmaker will be impossible to replace

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>>76328451
>I rate Memeago and Memerratti

>>76328494
>a player that is worldclass is 1 dimension is harder to replace than a player that is worldclass in 3 dimensions

>>76328523
>1DPD

lel

>>76328523
I find your posts to be pleasantly humorous.

>>76328523
Ronaldo isn't just world class, he's a once in a generation player.
Modric can make as many chances as he wants but a lesser player will fluff them or just not be as committed to score and win.

>>76327752
Man U Real Mad matches are always fun

>>76328579
>Ronaldo comes in 2010, Real remains a very good team, but not really outstanding
>Modric comes in 2013, Real almost immediately turns into the best team of Europe, wins 3 out of 5 possible CL trophies

Really gets those jingles cracking.

>>76327850
>Just look at all the games he's missed this season, Real still blew out teams by 2 or 3 goals

games agaisnt relegation tier clubs

>>76328663
I hopped on my left leg and moved slowly then I started using my right leg as well and could move fast. My right leg is therefore more useful for movement than my left.

>>76328663
Makes you wonder why he didn't do anything at Spurs when everyone was shit

>>76328711
Morata, per minute played, scored more than Ronaldo this season. Hes replaceable.

Modric though, is irreplaceable.

>>76327667
Sweet jesus who is that

>>76328663
>Modric comes in 2013
>gets voted as worst transfer of the year by Spanish journalists

calm down Ante, it's time to emigrate back to Croatia

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>>76326431
By not accepting bribes.

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>>76328852
>Modric, a smoke screen
>42M to cover up shame

>>76327062
James, Kovacic, Isco, Morata, Varane and Asensio would start in any PL team.

>>76329105
Kiko Castilla would start for liverpool

>>76328893
SEETHING

>>76327515
Bale relaxed the entire season as a permainjured crook that he is.

>>76326431
liverpool will win it la
our year

United will barely escape the group stages and then knock RM out. Heard it here first

>>76326431
In my videogame, the germans are always winning the CL '17, also brazilians get the Lib. I don't know what's wrong with real life.

>>76326431
Wait until 2018/19 at least for Milan to save the day as usual

>>76328260
>They were refballed in 2010
Bullshit
If anything Inter was refballed and they still beat UEFAlona with 10 players

>>76326800
not better but equal.
depending on how much they reinforce themselves then:
-Bayern Munchen obviously. They didn't do badly this time so next time they have definitely a chance at winning over 2 legs.
-Chelsea and Man city. Mourinho parking the bus could serve well against RM if they also get someone who can score goals.
-Juventus obviously. If they reinforce themselves they might have a chance over 2 legs, but not in the final.
-PSG if they spend a bazillion euros and Monaco if they don't lose pieces
-Barca clearly, although they seem to have come to the end of an era

>>76327615
>>76327704
mbappé. Similar movements and ability to cut into space and disappear from the defenders radar although he starts from a different position.

>>76331427
mbappe will be a future goat if he achieves his potential for sure.

But he is still unproven.

Fact is, there is no one on the market who has history of doing that or even coming close.

>>76328579
ronaldo wastes many chances, even yesterday against juve he flubbed some piss easy shoots. There are many players who are much more effective than him at finalizing chances.
Where he shines is his ability to create those chances by breaking down defences with his off the ball movement.
The only one who is better than him at that is Cavani, but he's also one of the few top strikers who is catastrophically worse than ROnaldo at reaizing the chances.

>>76331528
ronaldo was not as good as mbappe at his age.
Of course with so little time he may still be just a fluke or never improving enough.

>>76327346
>If Real played Spurs at White Hart Lane Spurs would dominate

yeah, just like in 2011, right?

2017/18 CL rankings:

1. Real
2. Chelsea
3. Pakilona
4. Mosquern
5. Juventus
6. Manure
7. Patetico
8. Shitty
9. Liverpoo
10. RB Leipzig

Thoughts?

>>76334876
Atletico, Uefalona, Bayern and Juve should above Chelsea.

Experience is a grade.

>>76328282
>Why do you think he's been there almost 10 years ?

He's the clubs designated muslim that's why

Gotta cash in on that arab market anon

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>>76326431

>mfw Bayern meets RM/Barcelona/Atleti again next season in some ko round in the CL

You know what's gonna happen, Gunther.