BREAKING: Monaco midfielder Bernardo Silva (22) has arrived in

PLUS:Exclusive: Manchester City set to announce Kyle Walker signing as soon as today

>>76131770
>Ha also confirmed he will reprise his role as Mr. Tumnus in the forthcoming Narnia remake

what did he mean by this?

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nice, just what we need

another pacy winger

>release all of your defenders
>buy another forward

>>76131906
knowing Poops genius he'll use him as a CB

>>76131770
wohoooo!!! C'MON CITY.

>>76131930
He's good on the ball, so he might go in goal

>>76131906
he's not pacey, he's Iniesta-like.

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Don't see how he's worth £70m desu

atleast hes actually really fucking good though

Sterling Out.

>>76131897
underrated

>>76131930
CM definitely

>>76132092
But they have David and KDB.

>>76132049
>judging value solely on stats

>>76132106
He is Silva's long term replacement. Very similar players.

Early suggestions are that Manchester City will pay around €50m (£43.6m) for Bernardo Silva, who has undergone a medical. [@Sammy_Goal]

GREAT

>>76132116

He's a winger in a team that scored for fun. Also he was probably the worst out of the attacking player against City, Dortmund and Juve, that guy Lemar looked better

>>76132157
He's played as a midfielder all season and it was mostly the strikers scoring the goals. Only exception is Lemar but this was his first season playing such a major role unlike Silva who has started nearly every match 3 seasons in a row.

>10 midfielders plus claudio bravo

>>76132157
>City
hell no, dunno what game you watched

>Dortmund
true

>Juve
kinda true, whenever he got space he used it well but he was kinda quiet most of the game, Lemar absolutely sucked against Juve doe

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>>76131770

He looks a great player. I only watched Monaco a few times this year but he stood out a mile to me.

I rate Zidane though.

>>76131906

He's not very pacy actually. He's not a snail but he's not a gotta go fast player

but doesn't City need defenders doe?

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>>76132403

>questioning pep

>>76132403
I wonder if poop will make the same mistake he did at barcelona and start replacing every big, strong player with smaller technical ones and make the team more vulnerable in defense

>It's EPL buys all the good players playing in Ligue 1 episode
Every single year.

>>76131897
Hungary does it again

>>76132432
well he doesnt have a defence

wont affect

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>everybody on twitter rating him so highly

now I'm afraid he'll choke, why couldn't he be a literally who signing like Guerreiro?

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>>76132352

He played as a winger you melt

>>76132379

The whole team was subduded against Juve tbf, think they ran out of steam. In the City game Silva looked good for bits and pieces but kept losing the ball too easily which would worry me if I was a Shitty fan
Lemar had a really good season though so I don't know why team are wanting Silva over him

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This is just the beginning.

>Bernardo Silva, David Silva, De Bruyne, Jesus, Aguero, Sterling, Sane

No way can they lose

Don't they have enough attacking players? All that money needs to be used on an entirely new defence and GK

Pep knows what he's doing. Toure and Silva need long term replacements. Defence will come along soon enough

>>76132549
>Stones

>>76132541
Mendy is supposedly on the way to city as well. Pep is literally going to buy the entire Monaco team that knocked him out of the CL lmao

>>76132569
The entire Monaco team will be in the PL next season anyway so Pep's trying to get in first

>le too smart to figure out where 60m player will fit in man

>>76132535
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MuvoYW2Vhw

1st half only lost the ball twice, 2nd half he lost it more cuz he ran out of steam (thanks to the intensity Monaco played that game) and that's why he was subbed

>>76132535
yet he's not a winger. he's a playmaker being used in a 4-4-2 with double pivot who receives in the wing and drifts to the center to create play.
>I don't know why team are wanting Silva over him
because Silva has ball control and creates play, Barcelona-style player and Lemar is just pacy nigger

>>76132549
>Aguero gets injured
>beaten in a few big fixtures
>play like shite on offdays against relegation trash

Same thing as always, they're poor at riding leads out.

>>76132403
currently >we believe against all reason that kompany will stay alive for another campaign

We should have gone for him

>>76132403
Defence is overrated

Last season
>outscore opponents

Next season
>outscore opponents even harder

>>76132438
And then they wonder why Ligue 1 can't stay competitive

>>76131906
>Bernardo Silva
>pacy winger

what did he mean by this?

>>76132721
Just your average eplel fan.

>released all their fullbacks clichy, sagna, zabaleta

Pep going for the old 2-4-4 next season

>>76132607
>Lemar is just pacy nigger
Nope, he's a very creative winger, but he looked lost without Mendy against Juventus.

>>76132549
None of them would even touch the first team for Real Madrid, buyern or Juventus.

>tf

>>76132798
No you fucking retard.

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>if you can't defeat them, buy them

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>>76132772
>Lemar
>creative

>>76132549
Isn't next season when the FA starts retroactive bans for diving? Half those players are going to be unavailable at any one time.

>>76132157
>I rate headcrabs

>>76132765
They're bringing in Walker and Mendy.

>>76133020
can't wait to see all the mess that causes when players get retrospectively banned after diving and getting a pen, how can the FA excuse that

one step closer to instant video replays

I like this Monaco way of selling for huge money but at the same time spending big themselves.

>>76132116
yet thats all anyones done to pogba this season

>>76132772
Halt dein Maul you stupid spic.

>£60m for the Portuguese wilshere

LOL

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who is this guy???

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I DID IT AGAIN GUISE

>>76132157
He played in central midfield all year

Are you confusing him with another silva?

>>76132390
>I rate Zidane though.

into the trash it goes

>classic mistake of buying players from opponent that beat you
>classic mistake of buying player for position you don't need
>classic mistake of ignoring real problem (defense)

Why does anyone rate Poop?

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>>76133710
*doesn't fall for your devilish ways*

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>>76133710

don't say anything about my dad or I'll cut you!!

>>76134749
>city who had to play toure and delph don't need central midfielders
wut

>>76134784
any girl with enough make-up can look like this

>>76132049
Flair and technique. He's an exciting player although he did nothing of real note in the CL knockout rounds.

Not a City supporter but I'm looking forward to seeing him in the PL regardless. £43m sounds a lot better than £70m.

Portuguese media saying that he will be announced today or tomorrow.

60M€

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lads, confused City fan here

Judging from this season with City alone, Pep likes three centre mids. He likes one to drop deep and he likes the other two to be involved in attacking moves.

Now, Silva and De Bruyne are both great players, but aren't exactly the same. Silva is a world class starter of moves, a brilliant passer, with the touch of a God and true awareness. Whereas De Bruyne seems to be more of a 'final ball' guy, exceptional at crossing and not afraid to smash one from distance

So does Pep like this set up, i.e. one "retainer/move starter" and one "stats" man? (as in, KDB got a shit load of assists this season, but I bet Silva was the one who truly made most of the goals)

Or am I reading too much into the individual styles of players? And have I got it completely wrong anyway?

>the real question
Where does Bernardo Silva fit into this? Assuming he's coming to City and not United (which isn't a sure thing at all) you would imagine he would be one of the two creative central mids.

>the DM
And what's his plans for the third centre mid? Is he making Gundogan eat horse placenta all summer, so he gets superhuman, and is never injured again? Or is Gundogan not tough/defensive enough for that DM role, and he's a backup to Silva/De Bruyne? Is the DM role for Fernandino/A. N. Other?

Of course, that assumes Yaya Toure goes. And while I love the man for what he did, now he is past it and should most definitely leave.

>while I'm here
Pablo Zabaleta, what a fucking hero. I was at the Leicester game, glad I got to see him one last time before he left. Thanks for everything, Zaba

>>76134749
i think after all the busts they bought in defense they just gave up on buying defense and decided they will just win 7-5 every game

>what is defense?

inb4 pep plays silva at rb

To be fair as a replacement for Navas I'd take him. That right side of City's game is only >sterling. Nolito is probably leaving too. Think they could do with another midfielder who isn't permacrocked or old. Then focus on bringing in some wingbacks and a keeper if they're not keeping Hart and they're good to go.

>>76134870

Emre Can is joining for Liverpool.

ITK

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>>76134870
>trying to find a rational in Poop's signings

>>76134893
You don't need defense when you have the ball the whole game, the opponent can only score if they have the ball, and you deny it

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>>76134935
>>76134915
no room for Can

>>76134813
'no'

>gundam
>kompman

>>76135018

>implying an /sp/ poster can understand the 4d chess going on in Guardiola's mind

>>76135018
Ah yes, the Inverted Christmas Tree

given up on gundogan already?

>>76135018
The infamous " Sprinkler" tactics

Jorge jesus to PSG confirmed

>>76134799

Well, he's a winger for starters. And how does this address their pathetic defense?

>>76135429
>it's real
YEEEEEES

>>76135429
lucky Monaco will sell all of it's players or he'd be screwed

--------------------- Bravo
------------------ Kompany
Gundogan - Fernandinho - Touré
B.Silva - De Bruyne - D.Silva - Sané
------------- G.Jesus - Agüero

Literally who can stop us lads?

>>76135908
>Monaco signed Tielemans yesterday
Monaco, again

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>>76135429
>jesus trying to speak french

>>76135935
who is gonna be Silva's replacement?

>>76135935
>Tielememes
Oh boy

>>76135964
Tielemans, you know that kid every european giants wanna buy but decided to stay at Anderlecht

Wait, I though Bravo was done at CIty. Why are people putting him in next season's line-ups? Wasn't he dropped for Caballero?

>>76131770

He's 22? Thought he was 26/27

>>76136011
Caballero left city la'

>>76134870
If you're a city fan, you should've noticed how much Pep rotates his team, and how exhausted Sterling, Sane and KDB were the last month or two of the season.

Bernardo Silva is probably as close as it gets to a replacement for David Silva. He's creative, one-footed, and impossible to pressure. He's also got more flair than him, as well as being a better goal-scorer.

>>76132116
this, remember the dabbing potential

>>76135998
>Tielemans
But that's the Fabinho/Bakayoko replacement, who's gonna play on the wing? Mahrez?

>>76135503
He's not a winger you idiot

>>76131906
Only because Benzema is unbenchable while Zidane is the manager

>>76136040
>la
Do people do this just to piss others off?

It works.

>>76131770
For me, it's Bernie Silver.

>>76136063

He's certainly not a central midfielder. And sure as shit isn't a replacement for Yaya. FFS...

>>76136052
probably some pacey nigger Monaco has under his sleeve, Monaco is also very attractive for young promising players, i'm not afraid they will find a relevant replacement for him

>>76136040
I know that but are they really going to go into next season with a starter keeper who was relegated to the bench by Willy fucking Caballlero?

How do we stop the arabs?

I'm close rooting for the jews desu

>>76136099
>Allan Saint-Maximin
some pacey nigger, I guess, why would anybody watch Bastia games

>Adrien Bongiovanni
Belgian, a better version of Carrasco

>>76136191
good players, i would also rate Seri from Nice to replace either Fabinho or Bakayoko

>>76136134
it should be illegal for foreigners to buy local football clubs, and all arab problems are solved

>>76131770
Is he better than Pogba?

>>76136359
he doesn't dab, so no

>>76136342

Those arabs would move to london and the brits would throw the citizenship at them in no time.

Money talks

can they just give us the league now and get it over with?

>>76136410
they would still be foreigners so no

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>Poop
>can't even win a trophy in his first season with oil money team

>>76137133
The fact that you hold him to such a high standard is proof of how highly you secretly rate him. City's team is only better than Arsenals in the top 6

>>76137235
>Poop
>Good

Lol and mentioning Arseshit is even funnier.

>City sign some player who has had one good season in a league which is of a similar standard and quality to the Scottish premier league
>Manchester United about to sign the 3rd best player in the world

Always in our shadow.

This transfer is seriously similar to signing Scott Brown from Celtic. Two decent CMs who dominate their respective shit-tier leagues.

>>76137235
>hold him to such a high standard

m8 even I could win the treble with City's budget, they have LITERALLY unlimited spending on wages and transfers

they can pay any player £4 million a week

how can you do that and still win ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOTHING?

lmfao

>>76137400
This is Peps first season. How can you blame him for not using his resources when he hasn't even begun his work?

>>76137476
>How can you blame him for not using his resources
Is English your first language because it doesn't seem like it.

They guy spent £100 million + and has still won fuck all. He clearly has used his resources and he's embarrassed himself.

>when he hasn't even begun his work
Well don't you think he should get a fucking move on considering he would have been sacked at most top clubs by now...

The only reason he hasn't been sacked is that City are mickey mouse.

>>76133086
they don't spend that big though

their biggest purchase was Hames (45 millions european dollars) and they managed to sell him for 75 to Madrid (which put into perspective Silva's transfert, but whatever...), and they didn't go in a spending frenzy since then

that still not beats the 80 millions they'll get for Martial, a player they bought from Lyon for 5. Aulas is probably weeping every night from this one I guess.

>>76137505
He said so himself, he's at a small club now. How can you expect him to win when he's at a small club?

>>76131906
>pacy

embarrassing lack of knowledge

Anyone see the guy on the Match of the Day facebook on the post about this signing?

Fucking hilarious desu

>>76132106
David is getting old. He's not as agile as he was 2-3 years ago

>>76134937
Well yeah, about that...

Did you see how Monaco qualified against City? That's because they scored their one decisive goal on what was literally their only chance of the 2nd half.

Even if they manage to get a 80% ball possession rate, it won't matter much if their defense is so shit that their opponent can score 3 during the remaining 20%.

>>76132403
Wing backs really.

>>76137526
Their biggest purchase was Falcao by far.

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>>76137587
KEK.

The lad is from London as well. Fucking customers

>>76137652
>Arsenal go 3 at the back
>Tottenham tries to say they were doing it first
>City using Wingbacks
Wow EPL really is just copy what the good manager does

>b-but muh defenders
City just got rid of literally millions in wages for older defenders, this was just their first signing, of course they'll revamp their defence too.

>b-but they have too many forward players, speeee
No they dont. Just remember that agains monaco the only attackers they had on the bench was Navas and Ian Nacho. Not only Bernie Silver already has enough quality to be a starter, he adds depth and is clearly the long term successor for David Silva, whom city missed a lot when he wasnt available. Brilliant signing for them, wasnt expecting that.

>>76136011
City are going after Ederson

perfect successor to d.silva

>>76137674
England's brave Bernard Silver coming to Manchester.
Spain's cowardly Ian Nacho seems to be leaving though.

>>76137658
oh, yeah, you're right, that was in 2013 during their spending frenzy that eventually failed

that was actually before their owner changed his mind and went full Porto, making shitloads of profits from selling players

I don't remember them signing big money players since they switched politics

>>76137386
You do realize Greasemonkey said he's staying at athletico today, right?

>>76137673
Tbf, kolorav, cliche, saggy knees and zabaleta are all over 30. They need someone

>>76137711
I hope Ian Nacho stays, nutmegging de gea whilst 3 united defenders stood around appealing for offside was definitely the season highlight

>>76137742
Ian Nacho is incredible if he truly is as young as he is. Just not a Pep player, he's a real poacher. If someone like Everton got him he'd still be good.

He's just not hyped up because he isn't flashy and doesn't play for customer teams who have a large twitter following like Arsenal or the customers.

>>76137762
he's an average player la

>>76137714
>that was actually before their owner changed his mind
he didnt change his mind, he got divorced and lost half of his shit or something like that

>>76137476
It's also Conte's first season and he's won the Double. United also have got two trophies.

>>76137813
Are you the Spaniard who hates KdB? If so, fuck you.

Anyway, he's already an above average player for the limited minutes he gets and the amount he scores in those minutes and he's doing it at (maybe) 20 years old.

In terms of young centre fowrads I'd take Ihenacho in a heartbeat over Dolberg, Simeone, Driussi, Sandro Ramirez.

>>76137762
>Arsenal
>hyping any of their players

90% of Arsenal 'fans' on Twitter are fairweather moaners.

>>76134870
You are right about David/KDB. That's how they play.

>DM
Gundogan probably can't play there. Toure's probably pretty close to what Pep wants but he's getting old. Haven't heard of them being linked to anyone for that position. I think Weigl would be a very Pep type of signing.

>>76137953
lol. When things are going right at the start of the season they are awful

>Iwobi will be class someday bruv
>Walcott is a BAD MAN
>Kosc and Mustafi best cb pairing in the league senpai?

>>76137895
>Are you the Spaniard who hates KdB?
nope, and I haven't seen him post for a while, though I haven't read any city game threads for months
>I'd take Ihenacho in a heartbeat over
nobody cares, you already showed you are clueless when you said ikeanacho was great

>>76138019
Why do you hate Spanish players like Ian Nacho. He's great for his age, stinky, stupid pedro

>>76137992
Kosc and Mustafi are a great partnership. They just got fucked by injuries. But you gotta remember, there are trolls and idiots. You can make a Twitter account in seconds and start shitposting pretending to be a delusional fan (Liverpool fans are often the best) and getting people to hate you by pretending to be one. Anybody hyping up players, and you know what I mean by hyping, are likely to be trolls. Nobody hypes up players for Arsenal because they either don't perform or get injured when they do.

Arsenal didn't get Top 4 cause Carzola was injured all season. Happened last year as well. Xhaka didn't replace him and was out constantly. But perhaps no Top 4 is the spur they need, but Kronke or w/e his name is the problem. While he's buying $1bn ranches, the club is being fucked. I mean, why care when Wenger managed Top 4 for 21 seasons in a row? Hopefully they'll realise money needs to be spent now.

I suspect Wenger will become a Director of Football with a new manager in charge.

>>76137762
Juan Nacho said some days ago that he was happy in city and liked learning from Pep, he also said he was not thinking of leaving. But he's young and dumb and will probably just do as his agent tells him. I'd loan him to Dortmund or Ajax or just let him play every minute in the cups desu.

>>76138135
Nah, he should leave on loan, he is good but he is not Aguero/Jesus good (not yet at least, who knows the future), he needs minutes to not stagnate and cup games alone arent enough.

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>>76138042
>spanish
lmao sorry but ian nacho looks quintessentially british, salmon

>>76138219
>says the nation literally descended from Muslim rape babies

Lol.

>>76134870
B.Silva played as right winger for Monaco, would be a nice if not better option to the pacebabby stylings of Sané and Sterling.

D.Silva and KDB compliment each other really well, though KDB is clearly better IMO. If he only had Silva's balance and control in tight spaces he would be the perfect football player.

I actually think Fernandinho is a great fit at dm, he brings some sorely needed toughness. But knowing Pep he's probably searching for a Busquets type player, who will get his shit kicked in in the prem.

They obviously need a right back and probably a center back for when Kompany goes down. I actually rate Johnny Pebbles, but he can't play alongside Otamendi.

>>76139512
they need a LB, RB and CB aswell as a GK, but they are short on attacking options too desu. people are forgetting that Navas just left and Nolito is as good as gone too.

D. Silva and KDB are attacking midfielders, KDB isn't that good out wide.

That leaves Sane and Sterling, and Pep doesn't even rate Sterling as anything but an impact sub.

B. Silva can both cover for KDB/D.Silva in midfield and also play out wide.

>>76139633
oh and from what i've seen of this guy he also tracks back a lot and can put a tackle in. wouldn't be surprised if he plays as a deep playmaker, kinda like Xavi. or even converts to a wingback / kinda like Moses at Chelsea.

>>76139633
They need another quality ball playing CDM as well

>>76133020
>>76133079
>this naive

>>76139633
Kolarov is good, but the've got all the money in the world so why not. At least get a younger, speedier option to him.

Can Gabriel Jesus play as inverted winger? Sané has potential but is not a CL caliber player atm.

What happened to Nolito btw? Aside from his temper tantrums he was good when he played.

>>76139757
I don't think you watch City much.

Kolarov is gash, his stats are okay but when you actually see him play as a LB you want to break your television in two. He was OK at CB, but he is simply not athletic enough for it.

Jesus can play as a winger, second ("""shadow""") striker or as a striker, he's versatile.

Not sure why you don't rate Sane, he was the best player in the team in the last 5-10 games. Constantly threatening and almost unplayable at times.

Im guessing Nolito has fitness / weight issues. He doesn't play at all and doesn't even show up in training videos from their Youtube. Maybe a personal problem with Pep aswell.

>>76139830
also, the City tactic of late is literally "give it to Sane". it seems like Pep instructs Silva and KDB to just get the ball to Sane and let him try and break down defences on his own. Aguero and Jesus just make dummy runs for him and he does the rest with varying degrees of success, so clearly Pep thinks hes good enough.

>>76139830
Kolarov should just play as a wide midfielder in a Beckham like role

>70 mil

christ. that is fucking stupid. how do we un-inflate the constant inflating numbers lads?

>>76139924
It's 43m

>>76139893
not enough pace for that either. he's probably one of City's slowest players. to be honest I can't think of a single slower player than him. maybe Fernando? haven't really seen enough of him since he signed to be sure though.

>>76139924
Why do you care?

>>76139830
I haven't watched their entire games a lot this spring, mostly seen them on MOTD. Maybe they were highlighting Sterling/Stones/Iheanacho or Bravo's shenanigans in the analysis. All i remember seeing out of Sané early on was brief flashes but no end product at all.

>>76140001
he's completely wrong too. it's 43m pounds. which for a team that is already qualified for CL group stages and just signed a record TV deal is peanuts.

I can almost guarantee you there will be atleast one 100+mil signing this summer.

>>76137400
Get into management and see how easy it is then you fucking melt. There is so much more to football than just having good players, how the fuck do you think Crystal Palace managed to beat the champions 2-1 in their own backyard?

>>76140001
I care because if you compare the shit that's going on in football, English football in particular, right now with the real world it looks like fucking insanity. Also I think we're on the absolute verge of losing any realistic valuations on players compared to ability.

>>76139512
>though KDB is clearly better IMO
incorrect opinion

>>76140168
and Bernardo Silva isn't worth 43 mil? the guy that just won the Ligue 1 infront of PSG and had 8 goals, 9 assists and 50+ chances created in 30 games?

you do realise that this isn't 1995 anymore, right? the TV deal for PL clubs nowadays is literally 5 billion pounds a year. football has gotten a lot more profitable than it once was.

>>76140168
Real Madrid just signed a 16 year old Brazilian nobody has heard of for around the same price as Bernardo Silva. Literally who gives a shit what multi-billion pound clubs spend their money on.

>>76140225
and they'll make that money back with just their pre-season friendlies.

>>76140187
Silva's a terrific passer and good in tight spaces, but that's literally it. He doesn't defend or score anything but occasional tap-ins. I don't like how he dribbles for the sake of dribbling either, he has the ball on a string but never goes past or really even engages the defender.

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>>76137645

Any of u french , possibly most of these pots are made by 1-2 posters but anyways, got an opinion about Nice 2nd forward Donis?? He was meant for a Balotelli back-up, got a few matches, usually subbed.
He is a loanie from Juve. I heard Nice is interested in keeping him, but Juve is reviewing his case to see if they will eventually sell.

>>76140388
So, a poor man's David Silva?

>>76131770
wtf we need Mendy and Fabinho
a very good cb too

>>76140463
So two poor man's Iniesta? This sounds great.

>>76139893
Does Beckham's role even exist more? Like back when wingers weren't forwards cutting in constantly.

>>76140474
Apples and oranges.

David's added goalscoring to his game in England.

>>76140463
I was actually describing David Silva. Though i guess you could describe him as a poor man's version of himself some seasons ago.

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>>76140524
enlight me on this

>>76140479
Formations evolve and positions change. The lazy, talented number 10 e.g. Riquelme, Yeste, Guti has also disappeared. You can't be a number 10 on talent alone - you have to have the workrate to match your teammates.

>>76140592
>The lazy, talented number 10

That's basically Isco in a nutshell. Lazy. and. talented.

>>76140524
he seems to play in better goalscoring positions for the national team, he's usually a bit deeper at city

>>76140592
You don't see many second strikers either nowadays too sadly. Ronaldinho, Baggio, Raul, Bergkamp, Del Piero etc. were the most entertaining and skillful players to watch

>>76140573
>ligue 1

Not saying it's a shitty league, and not saying Premier League is all that either, but theres still a pretty big difference. I reckon the average level in PL is just above Ligue 1 overall and way above in the defensive department.
France seem to be more about flair and tricks, while England is more about physique and stamina mixed in with some amazing talent and incredibly clever managers. Silva would probably absolutely dominate Ligue 1.

>>76140388
not totally unfair, but he has also adapted to Pep's pressing style really well. had a great season this year.

>>76139830
>>76139864
this guy watches City play, excellent summary

>>76140168
>realistic valuations
Literally no idea what this means.

>looks like fucking insanity
Why?

>>76141131
he's right though

why are john stones, raheem sterling, ross barkley £50m players? even with the homegrown thing it's absurd how inflated transfer fees are now just because somebody has a good season

>>76132798
wew

he clearly has skill, I'm more scared the english brutes will push him around the entire game and he's gonna be more time on the groung than with the ball

>>76141171
>he's right though
That's not answering my question of why.

>why are john stones, raheem sterling, ross barkley £50m players?
Why are any players worth any given number of pounds?

>inflated
So they're overpriced? Is Van Nistelrooy to Man Utd for £19m overpriced? Why is that the correct rice but Sterling to Man Utd isn't?

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>yfw bernie wins one for da gal

>>76141296
because
>realistic valuations on players compared to ability

nistelrooy was one of the best strikers in the world. where do stones, sterling and barkley rank in their world positions?

He's going to get absolutely squashed isn't he? The winds up North alone will disassemble him

>>76141171
it's because Clubs now are more rich than ever and can afford it, that's all.
You guys are like those old people that constantly complain that when they were young everything was cheaper without realizing that they earned 10x less

>>76141359
There were overrated players in RVN's time and they went for a price above the then norm. I don't know why you're trying to talk about individuals players as they relate to the landscape of the day. I brought up RVN to represent that era, not to compare him to said era.

>>76141407
it's still pathetic. the really elite players all go to spain or germany or italy for half the price an english club would have to pay for them.
england is the china of europe.

>Manchester

The city of customers.

>>76141476
>There were overrated players in RVN's time and they went for a price above the then norm

sure, but not to this scale. and it's getting exponentially worse

just a few years ago £50m was a fair price for proven world class talent, torres to chelsea for example. this isn't about natural inflation in football, it's billions being pumped in and ruining any sense of true value in players

>>76140633
except Isco isn't lazy at all

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>>76137666
KEK
E
K

>>76141497
Name these 'really elite players' everyone is picking up cheaply.

>>76141606
>it's billions being pumped in and ruining any sense of true value in players
it's billions getting bleached, there's no way that a 16 yr old kid like vinicius jr is worth 45 millions

>>76141670
Tsu
Messi
Suarez
Neymar
Bale
Isco
Modric

>>76141708
>Ronaldo
>Bale
>Neymar
Literal World record fees.
>Suarez
80m is cheap? No one in PL history has bought a player for that
>Isco, Modric
Weren't 'really elite' at the time of purchase, still cost the same as Chelsea bought Hazard for, Arsenal bought Sanchez for etc

You're a dribbling spastic

>>76141744
>Literal World record fees.
that England would have to double just to talk to them for a potential signing. And they still wouldn't go. Who really wants to go to China?
>Suarez
it's another example of too big of a player for Europe's China. he was wasting his career there
>Isco, Modric
they are elite. Hazard is limited to domestic football, that's not an elite player and Sanchez was spitted by a Spanish club, literally sold to China for not being elite enough

>>76141794
Not even gonna get into the hunk of shit Real and Barca have overpaid for over the years. The problem is clubs overcharging. Half of them are bought from your shit league for daft fees because you get rammed by 80% agent fees

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>>76141864
and we appreciate you guys to keep buying them. they're really really world class talents. all of them

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>>76141634
pathetic

>>76141744
Neymar was 60m or something. Far from world record fee m8.

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>>76141608
What did the gypsie mean by this?

>>76141007
Your point being...?

>>76141864
>The problem is clubs overcharging.
The """problem""" is that you guys don't mind paying for overpriced players. Then it's just a question of the player deciding if he cares more about his wages and play in a meme league for absurd amounts of cash or his career and try his luck in the high level

Silva Debrown Silva


>the cow i'm hot

>>76141954
he can look however he wants, as long as he does the job he isnt lazy my Aotidae friend.

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>>76141634
SEETHING

>>>76132116 (You)

Why do City and United keep spending 200M pero summer and still are shit and miles behind the european top5? I am honestly curious. Why do their '''fans''' allow It?

>>76147058
Do you know just how shit City used to be? Arab money is the best thing that ever happened to them.

>>76147058
Poor signings. This season with man city was a bit meh. We dominated every game but misses 10 or 15 chances.

Kompany injured all season. Ota and stones suck together. Full backs blew. And poor decision on gk

>>76147058
>what is fiat money
>what is money laundering

>>76147058

200M is nothing for United, less than 1/3 of their revenue, it's the EPL

>>76147058
the transfer window is more exciting than mouyesball, signing players from other clubs is the real trophy. This is exactly what customers want, a brand new shirt with chevrolet on front and pogba on the back. They are getting wet as we speak