can we all agree that this is the worst competition in sports?

>>76099421
6 on 6 with two balls.

no timeout

>>76099421
>says the country with la liga

Hot lava field

>>76099421
hard cap would be a start


but the truth is there is no way to improve the league while it's ultimately under the control of unseen ownership with cloudy motives.

>>76099421
>>76099421
Fuck off you dumb spic.

Captcha: Europa Ends

Your days are numbered, cuck.

>>76099455
>apehoop supporter
>calling anyone else a cuck
Top jej

bundesliga is the worst competition in sports

nba is worst in burger sports

>>76099493
Bundesliga has the best matchdays week to week and if you care more about the actual on-the-field sport than the pageantry of a league then you're watching Bundesliga.

the pot calling the kettle black. I'd say la liga is easier to fix than the NBA, though. Just end Real Madrid and everything related to it.

>>76099493
>>76099446
if lack of competition were the only problem... but the NBA right now is unwatchable. All teams chucking threes, infinite timeouts making games last for more than 3 hours. it's really the worst competition all things considered. Very poor product

>>76099483
Kill yourself, you povertyball shit.

The problem is that it already is "fixed".

>>76099614
/thread

>>76099614
Considering how hard the NBA is pushing to legalize sports gambling....really makes you think.

>>76099543
>implying I only watch/play soccer
Try again, DaQuan Shmrrt Skrrt Fugg Nigga Thompson Brown III

1. Cut down on the amount of games person season. Heavily, I'm talking getting rid of about a dozen games.
2. Make the playoffs bigger, not just East vs West Coast centered. (Very unlikely to actually happen, but whatever)
3. Thats about it

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>>76099421

1) Add 2 four-point "circles" on each side of the court between the 3 point line and half court.

2) Get rid of gay rules that helps guards score more points that were implemented in the 2000s.

3) Get rid of goal tending to resurrect the center/power forward positions.

Welcome to the Ball era

>cut the league down to 12 teams (NY, LA, Chicago, Philly, Dallas, San Francisco, Boston, DC, Atlanta, Phoenix, Miami, Seattle)
>every player currently in the league goes into a giant draft pool
>teams pick until they've assembled a team of 12 players
>those who don't get picked are relegated to a minor league
>these new super teams play a 41 game schedule
>everyone plays everyone
>teams with the two best records at the end of the season play a 7 game series to crown a champion

Keep team caps, but remove limits on individual player salaries. Right now, there isn't that much of a sacrifice required to join a superteam.

>>76102699
Dude - could you conside posting on /pol/? I really need your flag...

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>>76102699
do me a favor and make a post on /pol/ so that I can collect you

>>76103022
>>76103047
Eyy, we think alike

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>>76103063
good for you, humble muslim taxi driver

MULTIBALL

more chimpouts

>>76103022
>>76103063
not that anon, but how does questioning the NBA's nonsensical 'salary cap' system have anything to do with /pol/?

>>76103022
>>76103047
Will do

>>76103159
Some people save the country flags of unique posters they see (like https://s.4cdn.org/image/country/ck.gif), but apparently only on certain boards.

>>76103159
I collect rare flags, but only from the /pol/ board. I saw his flag on here, and since I don't have it, I'd like him to post there so I can nab it.

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>mfw waiting for this rare flag to make his post

Less nigs

>>76099421
>Divide the 2 confs into 4.
>Every team from each conf plays each other equal times. No *teams closest to each other play more games bullshiet*.
>Make the play off spots 8 in total. 2 from each conference.
>Somehow create a punishment system for the bottom team of each conference. Relegation isn't gonna happen since teams pay to join the league, but find something to stop the 76ers bullshitte.
>Force the teams into allowing their players to join their National Teams.There is nothing more honorable for some players than to wear their country's colours. Americans don't seem to understand that.

>>76102332
it's a nba fixing thread not basketball as a sport.

>>76103640
>how you fix it
>somehow create a system
Real helpful

>Americans don't seem to understand that.
Still dominate international basketball. I wish our baseball players played international competitions more though.

>>76103743

You think of an International FIBA competition as a camp of some of your best players. I doubt anyone gives a f*ck since you all know you re gonna win it. And you re not the only one who knows it.
Most National teams don't have the amount of decent players you do, and when a team does not allow a Serbian/Croatian/Spanish player to join his NT , the team gets weaker.

Imagine Greece having a player like Giannis and not having him in its roster.

>>76103214
but you just got it here?

>>76103840
I am autistic ok I can't collect the flag unless it's on /pol/

>>76103743
>somehow create a system:
>Money fee?
>Not allow them to take part in Draft?
> 2 seasons in a row last - kick from the league?

I dont wanna sugest because simply I am not fully aware of what is healthy athleticism and just rules and what isn't.

>>76103891
that is very autistic yes

would make more sense to collect it on /int/ 2bh

>>76103703

All of those points are regarding the NBA. Shouldn't you be working to pay debts?

>>76099536
3's are exciting and fun to watch. I'm sorry every game can't be a 1-0 defensive slug fest.

>>76105076
>3's are exciting and fun to watch

only if you're a casual

>>76099530
not even close, Ref's have alot more power per call they can make in soccer, but ref's can so easily fix a basketball game to one teams advantage it's retarded

Institute fighting like they do in hockey. Make the 'penalties' heavier on the player so we don't end up with 4-5 dead nignogs per game.

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>how would you fix it
Contract half the teams in the league
Institute a hard cap
Extend rookie contracts

NBA status: FIXED

>>76105665
>You don't like what I like
>C-casual
Shut up go watch divegrass.

>>76099421
End the East vs West division. Free for all playoffs.

>>76105076
they really aren't because they are the least statistically to go in. That being said, they are still considered valuable enough in weight where attmepting them is still beneficial to the team.

You're thinking of very specific and minute instances of "exciting" 3's. Most three's no one cares about or remembers, and no one remembers the 66% of 3's that are missed.

The context of what it means to attempt a 3 vs a midrange vs a layup vs a dunk also means they you have the least valuable form of play buildup to see a successful 3.
3 pointer plays often have very little individual player build up, and are more reliant on passing the ball and finding an open man.

After every year theres a new draft and every player is eligible

>>76106251
>>76106251
this would be amazing for 2-3 seasons, then everyone would get so sick of it instantly. The owners would hate it, the players would fucking despise it, but the fans would absolutely love it.

>>76099421
what is the problem with nba OP?

This is what sports is. If you want to arbitrarily add new rules to make the good teams bad then what you want is not sports, but something completely different

>>76106232
>Passing finding the open man then draining one deep
Vs
>One guy dribbling the ball for almost the entire shot clock then charging into the key only to make it to the hoop half the time and the other half flop and pretend he was slugged by Mike Tyson
Again we can each have our opinions about what we like, doesn't make anyone of a casual

>>76099429
/thread

>>76102332
>3) Get rid of goal tending to resurrect the center/power forward positions.
You forget that most players are tall enough/jump high enough to catch 3's before they land in the hoop.

>>76106289
The NBA has been arbitrarily adding new rules since forever though. Maybe adding the clock, goal-tending, 3 sec defensive violation and the 3 point line ruined basketball forever. They always overreacted to freak stuff (a one in a lifetime player dominating, low scoring in one season, etc) that gets corrected with time. Imagine soccer revamping all its rules in the days of catenaccio

Probably the most insecure league out there. They've made so many rules and regulations that it resembles an abortion.

>>76106358
>Goal tending ruined basketball
Without goaltending the center would just stand around the basket and swat away all shots, which would eliminate any kind of shooting. Shot clock is also a good rule as it stops teams from just passing the ball 100 times

Change the rules to favor post players more. Give them more time to operate in the paint. There used to be 5 seconds in the paint and now it's 3. Then you'll be seeing teams use a lot more post play so they can compete without being a meme chucker 3 point fest. More variety will equal more competitive teams.

>>76099455
Rich coming from an apehoop faggot

>>76106346
I think he just meant "use the international rule for goaltending"

aka "interacting with the ball while it's still above the ring is allowed as long as the player's hand doesn't pass above the ring (after the ball bounced of the ring, of course)"

>>76105912
>Institute a hard cap
w/o this no other improvements would matter.

>>76107417
Hoop.

>>76106346
>>76106410
>Without goaltending the center would just stand around the basket and swat away all shots,
>You forget that most players are tall enough/jump high enough to catch 3's before they land in the hoop

How is this a bad thing? It'd be no different than having a goalie in hockey.

Sure no team would score 100, but I could still see games being 15-20 or something, making the game more competitive overall.

>>76102699
this desu, right now if a player is worth more than a max salary he still only gets the max salary.

Let's say Player A is worth 50% of a team's cap (like Lebron) but the max contract is 25% of the team's cap, while Player B is worth exactly 25% of the team's cap... both are getting paid the same even though one is worth twice as much as the other

If one team gets two of those guys on one team they're only paying 50% of their cap for 100% worth of players... which means there's no incentive for these players to not team up and dominate.

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>>76099421
Yes.

Eliminate max contracts. Implement a hard cap.

Simple.

>>76107673
right? Lebron is currently making about 30mil, and Clev is 50mil over the salary cap.

How is this a sport again?

It's more Globetrotters/Generals than a fair contest.

>>76106358
All of those things improved the game. I'm so glad the game is about spacing and ball movement now instead of 20 second isos and post ups

>>76107726

I've literally never seen a center dunk on another center in the past 15 years of watching basketball.

Now people only dunk on fast breaks or when they get a completely open cut to the basket. What's the deal with that?

>>76107726
>All of those things improved the game.
yeah it 'improved' it so much we have had an almost unwatchable playoffs.

>>76107713
Could also do away with cap. It works in baseball.

>>76107781
one player can't affect the game in baseball like they can in BBall.

They can't in any sport desu.

I feel like the 66 game season we had 5 years ago was perfect. 82 is too many.

If you don't get a hard on from watching people jump 3 inches in the air and throwing a ball into a hoop from 23.75ft and sometimes further, you don't know SHIT about sports.

>>76107932
This is a bad meme. Drafting and building a solid team is absolutely necessary. Adding one guy to put you over the edge is the same in all team sports. There is a reason why LeBron jumped teams twice because he knew it takes more than one. And if the prices are all being driven up by non capped teams there still won't be a 3 or 4 super star team. Even ny couldn't afford that much.

>>76108160
gay

>>76108232
Take LeBron off the Cavs and they don't make it out of the East

Durant left OKC and they went from contender to first round exit

>>76107686
fucking this

>Americans complain that soccer is boring because "muh 0-0 scores"
>Watch basketball instead
>Points scored every 1.5 seconds
>It's more surprising when an attack DOESN'T result in a score
>Endless shots, zero defence, zero tactics

Daily reminder that basketball is on watchable for people with undiagnosed ADHD.

>>76108688
>This simplistic of an analysis
Kek

>>76108721
>Ey mayne try to shove dat nigga out da way so I can throw the ball at the hoop, shieeeet

muh strategy
muh tactics

>>76108232
Nigga please. One player can absolutely change the fate of a franchise.

>>76108780
Yeah just like one qb can make you a contender... If you have the pieces. Ask Rodgers or Stafford about that one. LeBron never won a chip without all stars and mj never won one without pippin. Ideally a championship caliber basketball team has always had 2-3 studs. Kobe/Shaq, kobe/gasol, Parker/Duncan etc. Etc. So at any given time truly great teams starting lineups are at least 40% all stars.

>>76108721
Oh, because American analysis on soccer is super deep

>>76108876
They can't. No one player can turn an NFL team around. Best QB in the world will suck if the line sucks.

Put Lebron on any team in the NBA though and they at least make the playoffs.

Get rid of any salary cap in American sports.

American sports = literally and unironically socialist

>>76108934
Put rod god on any team. Niners/browns/Rams included and they make playoffs. Packers roster without Rodgers is niners/browns tier.

>>76099421
>says the guy who lives in the country with La Liga

lol

>>76099421
change the 3 point line to 4, 2 worth 3

>>76109245
Nigga plz.

If you don't have a left tackle doesn't matter who is under center.

Stop media memeing

I can't believe the NHL playoffs doesn't destroy the nba playoffs in ratings. Almost every NHL playoff semi-final has been great, and the NHL isn't obviously rigged

>>76102574
really drives me nuts how every sports league in this country basically has the same formula for how the league should work like thats the only possible way to make the maximum amount of revenue

>>76111141
Ratings aren't real.

Who knows what the real truth is.

Lots of empty seats at a lot of the NBA playoff games this year.

>>76111141
you can see the ball in basketball though

ice hockey just isn't a spectator sport

>>76111129
>Implying even the worst teams don't have left tackles
>Implying the niners and browns don't have better left tackles than the assy packers line
Do you watch football? just stop dude.

>>76111160
Unless you're retarded or blind it's impossible to not be able to follow the puck

>>76099421
ratings are up. legends are being born. there's nothing to fix.

>>76111165
GOOD left tackles retard.

There is a reason those dudes get paid out the ass.

You can't be this stupid.

It's impossible.

>>76111181
let's just end the (((ratings))) meme

>cover the court with ice
>players wear skates and protective gear
>add contact and fights

Everything else can stay the same

>>76111192
Why?

>>76111165
Rodgers is gay.

Take your pills.

>>76111200
Because it's OBVIOUS bullshit?

>>76111209
But it isn't bullshit.

>>76111185
Oh look Joe Staley and Joe Thomas aren't good. STFU you are literally out of your league here.

>>76111217
Yeah sure.

Certainly explains the decisions Americans media has madein the last 24 months.

nigga, plz


Come up w/ a new scam

>>76111220
No QB.

Football is a TEAM sport.

That was the original point. No one individual (outside of Belichick) can have that great of an impact.

>>76111229
huh? what does that have to do with ratings? people like watching the playoffs and so they watch in large numbers. sorry that this hurts your feel bads.

>>76111240
Nigga plz.

Don't tell me ratings are real while ESPN et al. make the moves they make.

Entire media is colluded bullshit. It's a NGO.

>>76111200

Ratings are an outdated concept. The entire idea behind tv ratings is that they can take a sample of x% of people in the country who watch the finals and extrapolate that to account for the hundreds of millions of people in america.

Obviously that used to work back in the day when everyone actually watched television and needed TV sets to see the finals, but nowadays 99% of people just watch streams or youtube.

Now I know what you're thinking
>but anon, if less people are watching TV and ratings are UP, doesn't that mean more people in total are watching NBA???

well the problem is the type of people who take Nelson surveys and have nelson boxes no longer represent the general viewing public. The type of people who watch television and take the type of surveys used to extrapolate ratings data no longer represent the average american - they are simply weirdos and outliers.

Once their main data points no longer represent the average american, their ratings nonsense has no meaning.

>>76111240
we SEE the vast swatches of empty seats Schlomo.

>>76111252
Ratings where ALWAYS fake bullshit.

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>>76111252
>shit loads of hot air


her dee durr....we're a sports oriented business....let's give Bruce Jenner an award

so believable

End the East vs West. Keep two league's like NFC/AFC or the NL/AL. But don't split it by coast, split it by franchise strength. Lakers and Clippers go to different Conferences. Knicks and Nets go to different Conferences. Etc.
Technical fouls and fines for flopping


Take away 1 timeout each half. Timeouts shouldn't be used just to stop a offensive run, that shit is b.s. n boring


Get rid of draft lottery

>>76111251
NBA games aren't all played on ESPN.

Besides, that has to do with people cutting their cable subscriptions. More and more of us are pulling the plug, as they say. We still love our sports, though. It's just that now a lot of us watch the games via illegal feeds online.

"The media" has nothing to do with anything. People like watching playoff basketball these days. Shit, even my dad is watching now. He's been a fan ever since he saw Game 6 Heat-Spurs a few years ago.

MAYNE

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>>76111302
>blah blah blah


ESPN is a real business and as such we like to shove as much progressive bullshit down our almost certainly repulsed sports fan's throats as often as possible.

Because we're totally a real business. Who depends on ratings. Which are totally real.

>>76111252
It's not at all outdated. And you can even tell the difference in your own household when a classic game is going down to the wire. People who never watch basketball are all of a sudden watching basketball. You then know automatically that the ratings for that game are going to be high. And, voila!, it was high! Like OKC-Golden State Game 7 last year. Through the roof. Or the Finals Game 7 last year. Another record setting show.

Cmon man, it's not difficult to figure out.

>>76111314
stop talking to yourself faggot. you're not fooling anyone.

>>76111321
but... im not talking to myself. im talking to that one guy who was triggered by talk of ratings.

>>76111327
shill, fuck off with your samefagging and your '''ratings'''

>>76111312
Oh, you're going political. *yawn*

Yeah, no. That isn't it. ESPN has been the same for decades man. The change has to do with new technologies and options compelling a record setting number of Americans to cancel their pay TV subscriptions each year. And it's only going to get worse. ESPN is just one example.

>>76111327
>triggered

there's that word again. Please pick up your posts and take them to /r/nba

>>76111348
nigga please. ESPN has not been tranny, fag, dyke central for decades.

fuck off


everyone but retarded women know the media is fake by now

>>76111355
Uh, yes, it has. Dykes have always been on ESPN. I mean, cmon.

But, you know, sports in general - the sports themselves are what strive to be inclusive - who want barriers broken, just like the race barrier once was. So the sports themselves believe in justice, and this is why you see that culture represented on a sports network.

You do realize that trannys, fags and dykes can be athletes too, right? They're allowed to play.

You can't end the conferences, it makes traveling and scheduling more difficult. Can't believe I need to say this, you're burgers after all and supposed to know how big your country is.

>>76111237
Joe Staley and Joe Thomas are known as the top two lts of their gen and they will never get an owl because they never had a great qb. How are you not seeing this? Yes it's a team sport but so is basketball and to win in both sports you need a solid supporting cast AND, key word here, a game changing star. This is why it is a stale meme in basketball to say,
>You just need that one guy
>You need to tank for that one guy
>You need to trade everything and go for that one guy
Ask the Kings, Knicks, and nets how well that philosophy worked out. Basketball, just like any other sport works best when you draft and develop your own talent. Occasionally, if the timing and situation is right go make a big free agent signing but build your supporting cast first so that when the right guy comes along there is actually something for him to work with because nobody can do it by himself.

>>76108688
m8 first of all they only score like 45% of the time. you see about 2 made shots per minute of gametime. it sounds like a lot, but if you watch Euro or college ball they score less and the game is noticeably more shitty because of it.

and second, you need to look at basketball similar to tennis. it's a sport where sustained success over time leads to victory. you aren't gong to fluke your way to a win because you had one lucky moment.

>>76111423
True it is a game of runs. And I don't mean baseball. Basketball is interesting because more than any other team sport it's a game of resilience and constantly picking yourself back up after some super star goes bonkers for half a quarter on you. You're always having to respond. It's fun to watch a good back and forth.

So is Barcelona or Real Madrid gonna win La Liga next year

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>>76111423
>you aren't gong to fluke your way to a win because you had one lucky moment.

ouch.

Remove conferences in the playoffs.

>>76111458
TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/808031/Barcelona-News-Lionel-Messi-Real-Madrid-Cristiano-Ronaldo-Juventus-Transfer-News

>>76111170
>retarded or blind
Welp, just ruled out 65+% of Burgerstan

>>76111370
Thanks Shareblue. Powerful stuff.

>>76099421
Removing salary cap, it's better have five or six superteams that only two. The rest will be trash, but they already are so nobody will notice.