THE RETARDED ONE IS AT IT AGAIN >In full damage control m

that's a big jacket

>Mourinho insists that a club should not be able to play in both competitions, saying: ‘They are a Champions League team, they come from the Champions League. I always disagree with it.

How does he mean by it?

>>76001451
>What is he trying to gain from this?
he's already excusing his shit team and tactics in case he gets stomped by ajax, classic mouyes, always a loser

>>76001477
FOR YOU

literally nobody would watch the EL if have decent teams weren't dumped in after the groups

>>76001479
He means ManU needs lower tier competition and he considers Ajax to be right up there with Barcelona, RM and Bayern.

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>>76001451
>What is he trying to gain from this?
hype, attention, false belief.

He's getting them.

>>76001451

Based mou with the mindgames

>>76001498
A loser with more trophies than any other manager in the game.

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>>76001451
>Ajax haven't made a CL final in 2 decades

>>76001477
>>76001499
those are high dubs

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>>76001451
Mourinho sits down to lunch with Rui Faria every day to discuss what he can say that will piss people off the most.

>>76001845
Right now. Ferguson has more than him. Besides that doesn't mean that right now he's worth shit

>>76001451
Can't wait for an inevitable meltdown and him getting sacked like in Chelsea.

>>76001845
imagine how shit he is that he's still a loser with all those titles lmao

>>76001943
>asspain

Most despicable coach in the game.

You just know he's going to make the final a total snorefest.

He's right tbf
Actually most people think the CL clubs dropping down to the EL is a bad system

>>76001963
>You just know he's going to make the final a total snorefest.
The worst hing about this is the people who will be surprised when he does

He said nice things about Ajax too, idk why people are focusing on the Europa League bit

>I don't think these very good young players go by luck to Ajax. The scouting system has to be very good, the education system has to be very good.

>>76001979
Literally no one would watch EL if it wasn't for this.

its true isn't it? this isn't really mindgames. that rule where the 3rd team in a CL group makes EL renders the whole competition pointless, renders the group stage pointless for a team. imagine if you're a team that makes it legitimately like PAOK or Hapoel Beer Sheva. Happy because you qualified, happy cause you made it through the underratedly tough group stages. Then what happens? You got drawn with Schalke or Roma or Ajax and you get destroyed. What was the point of the whole exercise? I do agree with that. Leave EL for the EL clubs

>>76002015

No one watches the EL anyway

>>76002025
>>76001979
The teams that actually get sent down are the ones from Russia/Cyprus/Netherlands/Turkey aka the leagues that really shouldn't be given a CL spot in the first place. A 5th place EPL or La Liga team is probably equal to their champions

>>76002043
The EL is more fun and has a lot less refball.

>>76002025
Money, they all make a lot of money

Besides, major European league clubs that failed to qualify for the CL would wipe the floor with them eventually.

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>>76002097
Stay mad, la'.
Still one of the few clubs that managed to treble.

>>76002043
CL is way too predictable, EL is superior.

Should just scrap the EL.

Bring back the Cup Winners Cup, maybe have runners up compete if the winners already have Champions League Football. You'd get a whole host of different teams that are actually half decent competing.

Who else is really hoping for ManU to lose? What a season that would be for the special one. 6th place in PL, no FA Cup, no CL spot, another EL spot, Lost to Ajax. How can we make this happen?

>>76002098

Yeah but its really unpopular, i'm not questioning the validity of the torunament as I tend to enjoy it more than the CL. Although Spanish teams have been ruining a bit of the hype the last couple of years

>>76002185
>Who else is really hoping for ManU to lose?

literally EVERYONE

>>76002185
Convert to Jewish and pray to Bosz and Ajax.

>>76001979
I think the EL would get more respect if it wasn't treated as the CL relegation zone

>>76001479
He has initiated damage control

Europa League turned more interesting than the CL and it still is this year.

>>76001885
>still has more European Cups than Yernited

>>76002213
Is Bosz jewish?

>>76002373
No idea but he coached Maccabi Tel Aviv before Ajax.

>>76001885
how did >moyes do compared to >mouyes?

>>76002507
>moyes
was only funny because of united's collapse
>mouyes
was the end of the biggest cunt in football

>>76002507
Moyes 2013/14 ManU Season was this:
Premier League 7th
FA Cup Third Round
League Cup Semi-finals
Community Shield Winners
UEFA Champions League Quart

>>76002550
Champions league: Quarter-Finals

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>>76001451
he's just preparing himself for what's to come

>>76003006
Nah, Mou will go full bus park mode and play the most boring anti-football you will ever see.
Poor little Dolberg and Kluivert are going to get elbow'd by funny afro man and pogboom.

>>76002340
plus nobody wants any of the big teams to actually win anything
>real madrid
massive refball, unlikeable players (ramos, ronaldo) being main stars, spend big money constantly to barely win anything and scream non-stop if they happen to refball a cup win
>barca
as bad refball as RM, the whole 'we are unique socialist club' while shilling as hard as anyone; nobody cares your a big business but stop pretending you're not,
>bayern
hoover up the bundasliga and control it with an iron fist, more likable than the spanish big 2 but not by much
>juve
relegated to serie B for massive corruption, mafia links, buy up serie A talent so they can walk the league. on a positive note they sold pogba to manure for 100M which is hillarious

WHY CAN'T WE PLAY POCTOB AND ANDERLECHT EVERY MATCH REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>76002114
>tfw Pisti Kovacs lived 3 houses down from me
>plebs from my city either don't know him or don't reapect him bcs MUH HONOR

Mourinho is slowly becoming Wenger and he knows it

Was once a great innovator, now just a hollow shell of his former self desperately hoping his out dated tactics will somehow be relevant again

>>76003474
except wenger can retire with dignity, built an invincible team from scraps and never got involved in media bullshit

Mourinho is playing the media like puppets on a string.

>>76003474
At least Wenger only ruined one club and stuck with it

>>76003521
>ruined
when he leaves he'll leave behind the comfiest job in football

trophyless but arsenal are in no way ruined

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>>76003515

>2003: Mourinho's Porto = Europa League winners
>2004: Mourinho's Porto = Champions League winners

>2017: Mourinho's Manchester United = Europa League winners
>2018: Mourinho's Manchester United = Champions League winners

>>76003515
It's easy when most of the journalists in England are morons

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>>76003549
>>2017: Mourinho's Manchester United = Europa League winners

>>76003557
They're actually smart. It's their readers that are brain dead.

>>76003614
OY VEY ITS ANOTHER HASTINGS

>>76003543
All the arsenal delusion thinking they'll pick up allegri if Wenger leaves is hilarious

>>76003614
yep, they target their audience. i know a journalist from the sun who used to write for some gay ass science review magazine, analysing new papers that came out. his main job now was summed up by the editor as 'tits, celebs on drugs or who footballers are fucking'. once a year he tries to sneak in a 'real' article and without fail it gets rejected

>>76003629
i didn't name names

but 9 million a year, 60k cap nicest stadium in the country, massive budget and a docile board. whoever it is, a big name will be his successor

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stay mad cucks

>>76001845
>muh flukes
everyone can see what a shit manager he was at Real at Chelsea and now at United. He is trash that got really lucky a few times.

>>76003671
I guess Steve Bould is a fairly big name.

Last years Europa was probably the best in terms of teams competing

>>76001963
>Most despicable coach in the game.

Can't agree more. This guy became a real cancer of football. I can't get how a self-respected Manchester United fan - if such thing exists - tolerate his football which is more suited to a side tipped to relegation.

>pretends to be the underdog in this game
>manager one of the richest clubs
What a meme

>>76003275
The Jihadi's Elbow is injured and might miss the game.

>>76003671
My money is on Simeone. This is all assuming Wenger will actually be out as well.

>>76003753
Winning the cl with Porto was probably his best achievement. Not sure if you can call it a fluke. Every other thing he has won he has gotten hired by a club that already had all the pieces in place to succeed.

>>76003842
>simeone
he's the opposite of arselel's 'style'

>>76003842
well he's praised arsenal a lot and has the CV to back it up. still reckon wenger will stay for another 2 years though unfortunately

>>76003842
Why would he drop a successful club like Atletico for Arsenal?

>>76001908
Getting dubs was part of their plan

>>76003951
$£€¥

>>76003929
They're going to have to readjust after arsene leaves anyway. Their current "style" is only good for battling for fourth

>>76003842
>american opinions
Simeone doesnt speak English and doesn't have any interest in the EPLel or Europa league. literally zero reason to believe he would choose Arsenal.

It will be Mike Phelan or Paul Clement or someone like that

>>76004057
adjust learning spanish and playing murderball? it's not going to happen

>>76004115
new squad then

the invincibles used to kick the shit out of opponents

He's right though, and he's not the first manager to say this. AVB is the main one who comes to mind.

There is just no good reason for CL clubs to relegate down into the EL other than to pander to 'big clubs' who don't want to have their European season cut shot. This just shits all over the smaller clubs who have gone through a grueling EL qualification and group stage.

>>76004105
>American opinions
>From an American
Also neither of the guys you mentioned are big enough names to make the fanbase happy

>>76004194
>CL clubs to relegate down into the EL

Those CL clubs are nearly always EL standard though. They only qualified due to the backwards coefficient system.

>>76004194
Eh I disagree. It's probably better for them that big name teams play in the el just in terms of finances

>>76002015
Literally none of you casual shitlords would.
Early CL/EL qualifiers are the most comfy time of the year.

>>76004224
i've only lived here a year la

what names do you imagine are available and will actually be willing to leave regular champions league football and chance of winning their leagues to go to a sinking arsenal? There is literally no one. Let me shoot out some names that delusional arsefags have been dropping

>simeone
see earlier post
>allegri
lmao
>ancelotti
will retire first, also no interest in playing europa league

Maybe you'll get Henry or something

>>76004354
You now remember that Odd Grenland - BvB fixture.

>taking Mourinho's 4D chess moves lliterally
It's like you don't know he's never lost an european final.

>>76004378
>sinking arsenal

7th richest club in the world, they're fine. Arsenal just need a change in management and structure. They have all the resources to compete, just need to find the right personnel.

Look at what Conte did to Chelsea, 8th to walking the league.

>>76004429
yeah and look at chelsea's roster compared to arsenal

>oxlade chamberlain
>xhaka
>iwobi
>mertesacker
>ramsey
>coquelin
all unironically regular starters and the best at their respective positions in that club.

money isn't as important to these people (who are already rich as it is) as you believe

>>76004429
tbf, Chelsea went from walking the league, to 8th, to walking the league.

>>76004429
On the subject of Arsenal: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39981841

>Uzbek-born Russian billionaire Alisher Usmanov has made a £1bn bid to wrest control of Arsenal from majority shareholder Stan Kroenke. But with Kroenke showing no interest, the bid has in effect been rejected, though Usmanov is yet to receive written confirmation of that.

>>76004469
>all unironically regular starters and the best at their respective positions in that club

That just isn't true. Xkaka and Ox often start, the rest have been benched most of the season. Arsenal have a solid squad, as shown by the first half of this season, capitulation comes from the manager not keeping them focused and disciplined throughout. Ferguson won the league with his worst and most aged squad ever, that's what world class managers do. It's not impossible for Arsenal to find one.

>>76004378
I could honestly see simeone or tuchel making the move. Personally I think they will keep wenger

>>76004552
Iowbi started 25 games this season
Coquelin 22

the rest are crocked and have no proper replacements except maybe Ozil for Ramsey

Cech is a pensioner and losing it

Giroud is the only one who gives half a shit about the club, scores almost every appearance and everyone hates him

Sanchez is the only legitmately threatening player and hes constantly throwing fits in public

Face it, the club needs a massive overhaul and the manager is only the beginning

What was the "biggest" club Mourinho played for in his senior career?

>>76004469
If arsenal keep ozil and Sanchez they will have a solid team next year. Xhaka has improved lately and might carry that progress over to next year. The talent is there for them to fight for the league, I don't think there is a massive talent difference between arsenal and Tottenham for example

>>76004562
>simeone
again, why? Just for money? He doesn't speak the language, is clearly interested in finally winning a champions league and his play style doesn't fit at all. He's also expressed interest in Inter and never once mentioned the Prem

I think you're just assuming Arsenal will go for the biggest names available and he's the first one who popped into your head.

Tuchel is somewhat more believable if the rumors of him falling out with Dortmund board are true, but still unlikely.

>>76004645
>xhaka
>le rugby tackle then shoot from 60 yards man

>>76004382
Hell, Valletta vs Torshavn is fine by me.

>>76004615
>the club needs a massive overhaul

I disagree. Sure some players need to be brought in, but Arsenal have beaten Chelsea, City, United and Liverpool this season so the quality is there. Mentality is the key, and that's down to the (a new) manager and leadership on the pitch.

On their day Arsenal play the best football in the league, any pundit will tell you that. No overhaul is needed besides mindset, and to stop with the social media selfie shite.

>>76004653
Winning the league last year with atletico is probably the highest he is ever going to take that team. He managed to win the league against the weakest Barcelona side in the past decade and an extremely underperforming real team. Arsenal has a much higher ceiling for him imho. Like I said though i think Wenger stays on

>>76004645
bro have you even seen coquelin and ramsey play

>>76004732
>Arsenal has a much higher ceiling than Atletico who made 2 CL finals in 3 years
wtf am I reading? go back to your containment board you are clearly delusional. Simeone will NOT manage Arsenal. Ever.

Arsenal thread this way
>>75954164

>>76004762
Coquelin is going to be gone and Ramsay is a rotation player not sure what that has to do with anything

>>76004794
>>76004790
I'm not even an arsenal fan

Stop replying to the American redditor, he's an /arse/ and r/gunners poster who got loose

>Arsenal is a better team with more potential than Atletico
ahdontbeleevit.webm

>>76004717
Feroese teams park the bus. Maribor vs ex-yugo teams are GOAT fixtures.

>>76004887
Shit team busparking is hilarious though.

>>76003929
arselel fans would commit sudoku if simeone took over

>>76004917
arsenal existed before wenger you know

george graham's team were dirty cunts

>>76004943
>arsenal existed before wenger you know
????

>>76004943
>>76004977
I believe Arsenal before Wenger was a dry cleaning company of some sort, they specifically handled sticky situations.

>>76004977
late 80s titles? ian wright? liam brady? tony adams?

>>76004943
>arsenal existed before wenger
*donald trump voice WRONG

>>76005007
>they specifically handled sticky situations

They made guns.

>>76004943
arsenal was founded in 1996 you dip

>>76005048
they won far more trophies pre-wenger

>>76005016
>non league
see >>76005048

>>76005101
>non league

arsenal have never been relegated you dip

>>76004943
I meant the ones who've only known Wenger

>>76003753
his real team literally broke the record for goals scored and highest points, beating one of the greatest teams ever assembled on GD. Real was trash before Mou

youre a fucking idiot

>>76003753

He wasn't a shit manager at Real, he completely transformed them and turned them into a team that should be feared again.
I guess some of that can be accounted to CR7 signing but he literally turned them from a team getting knocked out in the RO16 or QF 5-1 to Liverpoo to consistently getitng into the SFs

>>76003842

Can see him going to Inter

Mouyes is the most overrated turd in the history of football.

>>76007024
he was absolute trash and wasted ronaldo's best years
>trashed 5-0 by poop at camp nou
>kicked out of cl by poop
>not even a single cl final with him as manager
>kicked out of cl by bayern because of his shitty coward tactics and parking the bus
>kicked out of cl by dortmund!!!
>caused a civil war in madrid
>destroyed a few players just because
>messed up with junior team manager that had been years in the club
>all his retarded fights with the press and players
>poked a rival manager in the eye
>completely sank the image of the club with is low class behaviour
>etc
it's taken 3 years for the club to recover from this retarded gypsy that had THE MOST EXPENSIVE SQUAD IN HISTORY AND CR7 IN HIS PRIME and made absolutely nothing other than winning a league that even I have to admit had some very close referee calls. Not to mention barcelona shitting on us during most of that time. We should have won plenty more during his years. Even zidane takes a shit on him

hope this trash never comes back to madrid

>>76007164
Yep, he was disgraceful, all those attacking players and he makes them wait for the ball 30-40 m in front of their own goal.

>>76007164

Nah real madrid wasted his best years. If he stayed at United maybe Fergie wouldn't have retired and they would've won more CLs together.
Madrid is just a club of egos and it needed a mou type character to ground them before they could be babied by redknapp style ego massagers like Ancelotti and Zidane

>>76007164

Did Madrid not always have the most expensive squad in the world form 2000 onwards?

>>76007164
>completely sank the image of the club with is low class behaviour

Oh pablo are you this naive?

>>76002025
Then winning the Europa League should not warrant a place in the Champions League.
Leave EL for the EL clubs. Man Utd is a Europa League club. They will finish 6th.