You are now the Spanish national team manager. You have to choose

>>75989551
Koke has the funniest name, so him

Asensio

>>75989551
Koke and Thiago.

>>75989592
Stupid posts will not be tolerated

Thiago is a meme like every Buyern player.So Isco and Koke

Camacho and Saul

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>>75989611
Asensio is trequartista or a winger just like his dad

>>75989618
>Koke is a meme like every patetico player so Isco and Thiago

>Isco is a meme like ever halal player so Thiago and Koke

>>75989622
Stupid posts will not be tolerated

>>75989652
And he is not relevant to this conversation

>>75989657
Itturaspe and Borja Varelo

>>75989715
Perhaps stupid posts can be tolerated

>>75989551
Isco is capitalizing on the fact that his main opponent, Bale, can barely play full 90 minutes. He is not that good and eventually everyone will see.

I'd go with Koke & Thiago.

>>75989657
Koke has a work rate unlike Thiago.So choosing Koke is giving freedom to Isco which is the one that creates real danger.I stand by Koke

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>>75989740
>>75989609
>Isco is capitalizing on the fact that his main opponent, Bale, can barely play full 90 minutes. He is not that good and eventually everyone will see.
>I'd go with Koke & Thiago.
>The Colombian customer seething
Kek.Isco is class.Just like his father

isco on the wing

James is better than any of them lmao

Koke & Isco against smallers nations.
Koke & Thiago in the big games.

>>75989836
Ponga a James calvo hdp

koke-busq-thiago
-----isco/silva

>>75989551
Isco and Thiago, it's not even remotely debatable

Isco and Alcantara because they are having better seasons. Koke as a super sub.

>>75989792
This
Isco on the left and then fill the rest of the 3 on the middle
Bueno.jpg
It's not like Asensio will be ready by the next WC to start for Madrid let alone Spain

Isco is not disciplined enough to play CM in a 4-3-3, there's a reason he's only starting as a 10 in Real's 4-3-1-2 now that Bale is out and Ronaldo plays as a striker. He needs freedom to do his tricks and cool passes, he can't do that at CM, especially in a side with ridiculously offensive FBs like Alba and Carvajal.

In a 4-3-3, Koke and Thiago. But I'd like to see them at least try out Conte's meme 3-4-3, half of Chelsea is spanish players anyway.

--------------------De Gay--------------------
----------Azpi---Pique---Ramos----------
Carvajal---Koke---Busquets---Alonso
-------(2 of Pedro, Isco or Silva)-------
---------------------Costa----------------------

>>75989913
>Isco and Thiago, it's not even remotely debatable
Maybe in FIFA.Thiago sucks defending and Koke balances Isco's/Thiago's lack of defence and workrate

--------Busquets--------
------Koke---Thiago----

Isco is great when he has CMK on his back, but that won't be the case so put him on the bench, super sub tho.

>>75989551
I will pick all three, because Biscuits is overrated shit.

>>75989962
>Thinking Spain is equipped to play a 3-4-3
shiggy

>>75989962
He is playing as a CM or a winger in Madrid though.

>>75989715
Not even the best Borja

>>75989997
rip

Koke is utter shit. Easily the most overrated player in La Liga

Isco is utter shit. Easily the most overrated player in La Liga

>>75990007
As a sub, when there's nothing on the line.
Now that Bale is out and he's starting in his place, it's clearly a diamond with Isco as the 10.

Modric---Casemiro---Kroos
----------------Isco----------------
----Benzema---Ronaldo-----

>>75990001
It's not like Azpilicueta, Alonso, Pedro, Costa and even Fabregas have been winning while playing 3-4-3 all season.

I think Thiago is slightly better than Koke but Koke would fit the role better

>>75990057
Good thing Thiago is miles better than Isco

>>75990068
Well only one of them is playing in a real league

>>75989551
Thiago and David Silva

>>75990056
>Now that Bale is out and he's starting in his place, it's clearly a diamond with Isco as the 10.
He starts on the wing pal

>>75990056
Only two of the players you listed can possibly start. The core of the Spanish players are not the hustle and harrying types, that is the beauty of their style. they are >too intelligent

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>>75990068
>Thiago is miles better than Isco

>>75990104
The fact that in the defensive phase he compensates the lines helping the fullbacks doesn't mean he's a winger.

He is a 10 with freedom to float around, but he has to do some defensive work.

>>75989551
Isco and Koke the only correct answer.

>>75989836
Póngalo pelón hijueputa

>>75990146
>The fact that in the defensive phase he compensates the lines helping the fullbacks doesn't mean he's a winger.
But he starts on the wings.He is not floating like James when he starts

>>75990193
>But he starts on the wings.He is not floating like James when he starts

The game has 90min, not 1min.

>>75989551
Koke and Thiago

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>>75989745
kek

>>75989652
Why are you saying that? His dad is unknown?

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>>75990193
Isco's position in his last 3 games, the 2 against Atletico and yesterday vs Celta.

>>75990227
really makes you think

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>>75990227
>Per 90 minute metric
>""X"" score
Wow it is fucking nothing.Btw I hate the Slovenian autist that popularizaed this meme comparisons

>>75990336
He starts on the wing and comes to the middle like most none pure wingers do

>>75990355
>Koke has workrate
>2 dribpast per game

Even Isco has a better stat lmao. Koke can't do the defensive job

Spain will have a great national team again
>Carvajal
>Nacho
>Asensio
>Isco
>Vasques
>Morata

Thanks madrid

Isco and Koke
Keep Thiago as reserve

Herrera

>>75990424
I don't think even the ABUs can disagree

>>75990390
>Using squawka meme stats
>>75990424
PL level is just too low for the NT

>>75990450
then why is costa going to be spain's striker?

>>75990450
It's from whoscored dushbag.

>>75990470
>then why is costa going to be spain's striker?
Because we don't have anything better.He is the weakest link in the team

>>75990488
Morata?

Fabregas and Iniesta

>>75990509
He'll be in the prem soon enough la

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>>75990336
The passmap is even better.

>>75990530
B-but he starts on the wing.

>>75990509
>Morata?
Have you seen him in Spain's system? He is even worse than Costa.I would rather put Aduriz or some other meme striker over Morata

>>75990568
lmao

Villa and Torres to Costa and Morata

really boggles the mind

>>75990530
>le pass it sideways man

hmm

>>75989997
this

Koke hasn't progressed this season, if anything he's looked worse, and often not even played centrally

So the other two

>Le I rate Thiago
He is 27 and has done jack shit in his career

>>75989551

Koke and Isco.

>>75989551
de gay
Carvajal - Piqué - Ramos - Jordi Alba
Koke/David Silva - Busquets - Thiago
Pedro/Asensio - Diego Costa/Morata/Aspas - David Silva/Asensio
I'd say Silva has to be in, just not sure where, also those full-backs ant not Azpilicueta because they need good attacking full-backs
no idea how to handle the cf position

>>75989551
put a proper dm/stopper next to busquets, international tourneys need solid defense

>isco, thiago, koke
lmao leave this trash on the bench, they think they are good enough because they used to play next to great players but they are completely average

>>76000744
Javi Martinez, la

>>76000710
>I'd say Silva has to be in
PL babies are horrible for the NT.It is like saying that Herrera or Pedro should play for Spain.Just harmful delusion

>Busquets

Nope Herrera is much busier in that position

>>76000800
>Herrera
>>76000791
See

>>76000809
>PL babbies are horrible

David Silva has been carrying Spain since Xavi and Iniesta fell off, face it Tiki Taka is dead

silva is spains only goalthreat

>>76000822
>David Silva has been carrying Spain since Xavi and Iniesta fell off
Because Krusty just puts old people and Silva is the fittest from the old guard
>>76000825
Of course if we play with Busquets,Iniesta,Thiago,Poodro and Costa.A midfield of nothingness and a striker that is just good at hoofball and counter-attacking

>>76000825
Id rather have Asensio given the state of modern Football, Spain need to go to playing a Counter Attacking / Convential Real Madrid type system if they want to be successful and ditch the Tiki Taka

>>76000800
>comparing busquets with herrera
ay explains so much about the poor quality of englel football

>>76000744
>lmao leave this trash on the bench, they think they are good enough because they used to play next to great players but they are completely average

and play who? they are quite literally spain's best midfielders right now

>>75989551
Isco and Koke obviously, they are both dynamic and intelligent and work hard all game

Thagio is a lazy cunt who's a grade A system babby

Also
>2017 onwards
>playing busqeta

Kek

>>76000859
you mean the same real madrid style that was just laughed at bernabeu by barcelona a few weeks ago?

there are no '''''''''''''''''lucky draws''''''''''''''' in international football, madrid's style won't work without them

De Gay
Carvajal - Ramos - Martinez/Bartra - Alba
Fabregas - Isco - Koke
Williams - Costa/Morata - Pedro

>>76000885
They were outdone by a red card and the greatest player in the world trying to make up for the humiliation in the champions league.
and they only lost by a goal. Some humiliation
meanwhile madrid are on course to win the two biggest trophies available

really makes you think

>>76000841
until spain find a good consistent striker (aboriginal costa doesnt count) then silva has a place in the starting XI
>>76000859
unless simeone magically becomes spain manager, i dont think they will change their style too much

>>76000904
>Fabregas - Isco - Koke
who is supposed to be the defending mid here? thicc isco? chubby fatboy koke? slow motion fabregas?

>>76000908
Really, Really makes you think.

>All teams playing Tiki Taka this season = BTFO

>>76000904
>Williams
Please no the nigger is horrendous

>>76000915
>until spain find a good consistent striker (aboriginal costa doesnt count) then silva has a place in the starting XI
Isco has more goal scoring ability than Silva

>>76000927
We have no good CDM so fuck it.
>inb4 Busquets
Lol

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STOP INSULTING KOKE

t. PESfag

>>76000951
isco has been scoring a fair bit for madrid
silva has been playing much deeper at club level, when the midfield 3 is him, toure and de bruyne, he wont be scoring as often

i think the best thing for spain right now is to have one of them in midfield, and one on the wing

>>76000908
>They were outdone by a red card
that's what happens when you jump in with two feet foward, yes. Should have gotten another for casemiro but that would be asking too much of a spanish ref
>and they only lost by a goal. Some humiliation
lmao if you think that wasn't a major humiliation:
>losing at home to your biggest rival with messi scoring in the last minute in a game that would have given you the league
lmao you simply can't understand the reality of it all because madrid is not your local team, you have no clue about all the feelings that happen when they win or lose, you are only a gloryhunter on the other side of the world
>meanwhile madrid are on course to win the two biggest trophies available
like I said refballing and '''''''lucky draws''''''''' don't happen much in international competitions (unless you are the host) so using madrid as a reference for a NT is useless

>You are now the Spanish...

Kill myself.

>>76000985
you need busquets and another cdm next to him, without two defenders in midfield spain will never win shit again

>>76001004
It wasn't a humiliation you utter nigger and ultimately it's irrelevant. It was a minor skirmish won on a fluke but the war was won by Madrid. Ask any of the proper madrid or barcelona fans (you can't because you don't go outside) if they would okay with losing the derbies if it meant they won la liga and they would agree. Madrid's system is far superior

>refball
If it weren't for refball, Barcelona wouldn't have even made it to the Quarter finals. Their system is dead

>>76001004
In a scale from 0 to 10, how angry are you now that Real Madrid are going to win the CL and La Liga, culerdo?

>>75989551
>Alcántara and Costa
Why is this allowed? Europoors can't win without cheating and using foreing players

That's never happened with South American NTs, we play fair

>>76001055
Thiago lived here since his father transffered to Depor. Cosat is garbage. Huezil can keep it

>>76001040
I understand you think Spain needs a CDM, but you know Busquets it's not going to be in form to play the World Cup 2018.
Hell, I don't even think >we should play with wingers.

>>76001055
Argentina national team are just Spaniards+Italians+some random jew. You shouldn't be talking shit

>>76001109
>Playing without wingers
It only worked through sheer Xavi autism

>>76001116
Not a single of them has foreign parents

Higuaín was born in France but to 2 Argies working there, he moved back home as a kid

>>76001124
The same as Thiago then

>>76001122
But now we have based Isco.

>>76001140
How is he a Spaniard? He was born in Italy and both his parents are Brazilian

This guy still speaks with an accent, sounds like Cristiano Ronaldo

>>76001174
>This guy still speaks with an accent
He sounds Spanish as fuck. He grew up in Galicia and moved to Barcelona. He chose to play for Spain

>>76000744
except busquests can't play in a doble pivote.

>>76001195
>He chose to play for Spain
Didn't deny that, Spain didn't force him. I'm just saying he's not Spaniard and NTs shouldn't be allowed to use foreign players and managers

What's the purpose of having NTs if you just use other players?

>>76001055
add Marcos Senna to that list
it's just Spain man, who cares, they're a shitty country

>>76001240
>I'm just saying he's not Spaniard and NTs shouldn't be allowed to use foreign players and managers
He fells closer to Spain than to Brazil as he have lived here since he was a kid.

>>76001281
They won WC cheating

When was the last time an "European" NT won a WC without foreign players? All 4 Italian WCs had Argentine players, the French one had Trezeguet and a few Africans, Germany had lot of foreign players in 2014

>>76001298
>They won WC cheating
Senna didn't play in the WC.In fact no foreigners played for Spain in the WC

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>>76001333
What about the Catalonian and Basque players?

>>76001281
>it's just Spain man, who cares, they're a shitty country
>That flag

>>76001195
>>76001294
>He grew up in Galicia

That's wrong tho. He spent his childhood between Nigrán, San Pietro and Rio de Janeiro.

He only plays for Spain because our NT would'nt except young players from foreing countries at the time. Mazinho (his father) already talked an hundred times about times about it. He went to CBF (our confederation) to ask for a chance to Thiago play for Brazil, and they said no. He did it again, also a no. After that ofc he would play for Spain, it's same with Costa and everyone else. Unfortunaly, and it's a pity to say that, beucase everyone know he would be a starter here, he's a reject.

Also, CBF changed that approach after they realize Thiago was solid. They wouldn't want to lose Rafinha too, so they changed it.

>>76001359
from foreing clubs*

>>76001354
Better question is: why does FIFA allow the odd white player in your NT?

>>76001359
>Se mudó a España cuando su padre jugaba en el Valencia C. F. y dos años más tarde, al ser Mazinho traspasado al Celta, se trasladaron a Vigo. Allí Thiago empezó a jugar en el Nigrán C. F. durante dos años y luego se enroló al E. D. Val Miñor Nigrán - Novacaixagalicia, entonces llamado Ureca, de la localidad de Nigrán (Pontevedra)[5] donde estuvo jugando hasta que sus buenas actuaciones hicieron que algunos equipos profesionales se fijaran en él.
You should inform yourself before talking crap. He chose Spain pretty young and the Brazilian NT coach tried to poach him but he chose Spain

>>76001359
>"Estaba la opción de ir con Brasil, por las raíces, las costumbres familiares y mis visitas en verano, pero nunca lo había pensado. Estoy en España desde los tres años, he aprendido a leer, me he desarrollado y soy quien soy por España. Les debo todo y voy a intentar ayudar en el campo.
If you believe him he has lived in Spain since he was 3

>>76001666
>Chegou a atuar em clubes brasileiros ainda na infância, passando pelo infantil do Flamengo entre os anos de 1995 e 1996 e CFZ[5], quando tinha cinco anos de idade. Mudou-se para a Espanha com seu pai, jogando na equipe infanto-juvenil do Ureca, em Nigrán, região da Galiza. Ele retornou ao Flamengo aos dez anos e, em 2005, aos quatorze anos, mudou-se de vez para a Espanha para jogar pelas categorias de base do FC Barcelona.[4]

in your ass

>>76001688
I believe in his father, who runs his career:

>Como brasileiro, o que você sentiu quando o Thiago decidiu jogar pela seleção espanhola?
Voltamos a esse tema. O Thiago não decidiu jogar pela Espanha. Ele não teve opção de jogar pelo Brasil. Talvez por isso o Thiago sempre dá suas entrevistas em espanhol. Com uma mágoa, vamos dizer assim. É normal, porque todo garoto sonha em sonhar na seleção brasileira, colocar a Canarinha no corpo e ter a satisfação de estar na melhor seleção e no melhor país do mundo. Quando o Thiago foi convocado para a seleção espanhola aos 16 anos, fiquei preocupado e chamei a seleção brasileira para falar desse tema. "O que eu faço?", pedi uma opinião, uma orientação à CBF. "O Thiago foi convocado para a seleção espanhola e eu não quero que ele vá, porque somos brasileiros e ele quer jogar pelo Brasil", eu disse. A resposta que tive foi simplesmente que os garotos formados fora do Brasil não vestem a camisa da Seleção. Isso para mim foi um impacto muito grande. Minha resposta de imediato foi: "Mas somos brasileiros. Não somos espanhóis". Mas isso foi transmitido para mim, e eu não poderia fechar aquela porta (da Espanha), já que a outra (do Brasil) foi fechada. Assim, o Thiago foi para a seleção espanhola.

>>76001583
Which one

>>76001124
>Lionel Andrés Messi was born on 24 June 1987 in Rosario, the third of four children of Jorge Messi, a steel factory manager, and his wife Celia Cuccittini, who worked in a magnet manufacturing workshop. On his father's side, he is of Italian and Spanish descent, the great-grandson of immigrants from Marche and Catalonia, and on his mother's side, he has primarily Italian ancestry.
Real native there

>>76001694
>>76001715
>This butthurt
He has been playing in the Spanish sub divisions for ever unlike his brother Rafinha that has played mostly with Brazil. You got the shit brother as he would never start in a Spanish midfield

>>76001715
not that poster but keep in mind that he was called with spain at 16 but that was the junior team, which means he would have still been able to join brazil nt as an adult till 21

why he decided to join spain instead I don't know, maybe brazil never called, maybe he saw spain winning everything and thought he was betting on a winning horse, maybe he thinks he's more spanish than brazilian

>>76001736
Argentina is a nation of immigrants m8

Messi doesn't speak a single word of Italian

>>76001853
>Argentina is a nation of immigrants m8
Why not just stay apart of Spain?

>>76001240
Don't you feel bad for Messi?
If he had chosen to play for Spain, which is where he has spent MOST of his life, he would be a World Cup winner.
Since he chose to play for Argentina, he will never win a World Cup.

>>76001778
Dunno if you can read poortuguese but that's exactly Mazinho's point. He was called for Spain when he was 16, and Mazinho went to our confederation to talk about that and they didn't care a little about Thiago. They said they wouldn't call a young player of a foreign club.

Right now there's other young midfielder who is the same situation. Jorginho, from Napoli. He will end playing for Italy because of the corruption and stupidity of our confederation.

>>76001937
He moved to Spain when he was 13 and started playing for the Argentine NT just a few years after. Also, he feels very Argentine, even when he lived (now) most of his life in Spain, he speaks 100% with Argentine accent, eats Argentine food, drinks mate, watches Argentine TV, etc


>>76001934
Why aren't you still part of the UK?

Oh wait, you technically still are

>>76002022
>Why aren't you still part of the UK?
We were basically independent from day one, and there was no real revolt or independence day for us because we have always be autonomous and have always seen ourselves as different
Because of diseases and conquistadors you're basically just Spanish "we wuz indigenous in shiet"

>>76002070
>you're basically just Spanish
Less than 40% people here have Spanish ancestors, we are more Italian than Spanish

>>76002093
Diseases killed 90%+ of the native population in colonial times, so chances are everybody is secretly Spanish

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>>76002093
Most inmigrants were Italian but Argentina's criollo population was sizeable before the wave of inmigration so you are closer to Spain as much as it hurts you. Besides all the Italian women got OLED by Spaniards once they landed on Argentina

>>76002191
>Argentina's criollo population was sizeable
Not really, our pupulation grew more than 10 times during the world wars, Argentina was pretty much empty before that (we are still rather empty)

The most common surnames are Spanish becuase all Spaniards use the same surnames, while every Italian surname is pretty much a different family, if you know someone with the same Italian surname as you he'll pretty much be part of your family

>>76002151
Diseases and wars killed pretty much all the former slaves. The natives were genocided

By the time Europeans started coming we already had less than 2% blacks and 5% natives

>busquets

I'll drop his diving bitch ass and ban him from the NT to be desu
That nigger has the most obnoxious and punchable face I've ever seen

Busquets-Thiago
Silva-Isco-pedro
costa

Koke is not even an option. Overrated af

De Gea
Carvajal - Pique - Ramos - M. Alonso
Busquets - A. Herrera
Isco - Thiago - Asensio
Morata

Isco and Koke. No contest.

Don't know what people see in Thiago Alcántara

>>76004255
>Rating Herrera
Pal...

>>75989971
>Thiago sucks defending

Jesus Christ, why did your parents decide to throw the baby away and raise the afterbirth instead?

> Thiago Alcântara has made more interceptions (99) than any other player in Europe's top 5 leagues this season.
https://twitter.com/Squawka/status/847521815979274240

>>76007198
>Interceptions
>Defending
Customers are going to bandwagon

>>75989780
>Isco is class

Yeah, no.

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>>76007462
t.seething colombian customer

>>75990394
>playing with benchwarmers