Can we finally fucking admit that he's the undisputed GOAT?

>>75976993
Legod IS basketball.

I honestly don't get whats so special about him

yeah he's 6'8 250, so what? there are other big guys in the league

why can't they do what he does?

He doesn't even look good when he plays

>>75977037

nigger what are you even talking about

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Elbows his way while taking 5 steps to the basket almost every time. Yeah, no. He's good but only great because of the no calls. It's even worse than Jordan.

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>>75977037
This is the dumbest fucking """""""""""argument"""""""""""""" I've ever read.

>>75976993
Nah, let him go to the west, walk all over it, then yeah, goat

>>75977455
He defeated the best team in the west. West is literally just a one team conference, and the leader of it lost to LeBron when up 3-1

>>75977037
>He doesn't even look good when he plays
So?

>>75977409
well here >>75977398 is a better one.

Post game is subpar as well, after all these years. Legit relies on cheating. Can't blame him, take what you're given - but anyone who knows the game isn't fooled. NBA needs a top guy and they chose him and will protect him no matter.

>>75976993
did they get rid of his 4 (four) finals losses?

Jordan is the GOAT, but I'm done entertaining the notion that anyone besides MJ is better than LeBron.

LeBron > Kareem, Magic, Bird, Russell, Chamberlain etc. and especially Kobe.

>>75977548
>>75977571
neck yourself, kid.

>>75977037
He has grown considerably since he entered the league and his initial measurements were taken. He is probably a solid 275 now. Additionally, I think people don't appreciate how fast LeBron is. Allegedly, he was running 4.40 40's back in high school. There are other big guys in the league, but none of them have LeBrons combination of speed, strength, skill and durability.

>about to have 5 finals losses
>the GOAT

nice try kid

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GOAT

Anyone that knows anything about basketball knows Jordan is the only GOAT.

If you want to be better then the best you have replicate what Jordan did, and then exceed it. But LeBron hasn't even replicated his greatness, and is faaaaarrrr away from exceeding it.

>>75977037
did he not look good enough scoring 23 points in the first half of this ecf game either?

>>75977641
>>75977772

Jordan is 1-10 in the playoffs without Pippen

Jordan also never beat the Pistons "Bad Boys" in their primes, they kicked his ass multiple years in a row in the playoffs. Let that sink in.

Plus Jordan never faced a team as good as the 2016 Warriors (72-9) in the Finals

Lebron led a team where the second best player was MO WILLIAMS to the finals in his FOURTH year in the league coming right out of high school ffs

Kek has a conference ever been as weak as the east has been in the last 15 years?
Any team with lebron and a couple other capable players will be in the finals every single year, and they hardly even challenge his teams.
The east is fucking garbage.

>>75978002
And got swept like a bitch

>>75976993
Nah, he's a whining, flopping, baby.
He got stonewalled by Iguodala in iso-ball.

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>Baby ballers and haters think the LeBron era will end when he retires
>MFW that's when it begins

https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-for-LeBron-James-to-become-President-of-the-United-States-once-he-turns-40-years-old

>>75978115
Lebron as pres would hilarious. I'd vote for him.

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>>75977506

>Legit relies on cheating.

You obviously have him confused with Isaiah Thomas

>>75977548
How can non-whites even compete?

Why because he beat some scrub teams?


Le 3-1 is the only good thing he's ever and done and he had to flop over Draymond Green to do it.


Jordan has TWO 3 peats. It's not a discussion.

>>75978263
Excuse me?

>>75977548
Compare 2014-2017 and let's see then, cracker.

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>>75978324
Too busy laughing at you for being a sad racist lol.

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>>75978285

>>75978285

1/2 of Isaiah Thomas' game revolves around carrying the ball

>we get to witness two GOATs in lebron and Brady and people take it for granted

>people arguing like basketball will ever have a single
>like football will ever have a single goat
Baseball is really the only sport where you can reasonably compare across eras

>>75978423
no.

>>75978550
no

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>>75978598

I'm literally watching him do it right now retard

>>75976993
Colin Cowherd (faggot) actually had a pretty good argument as to why LeBrick Shames is better. Heard him talk about it a couple days ago. Look it up on YouTube sometime.

>>75978002
Lebron has lost 4 finals who the fuck cares.

>>75978676
>Only championships matter
Bill Russel is the GOAT then. No shit he's lost 4, he's had actual teams to face. Jordan had scrubs.

He's 6'8 but plays like he's 6'6

the fucker is durable, strong

>>75977037
Best part about his game imo is his court vision. No other player his size since magic makes the incredible passes he does

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>>75978638
i think you don't really know much about bball.

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>>75978770

I knew more about basketball when I was 13 than you could ever hope to comprehend if you lived to be over 9000 years old

>>75978720
part of being the best is coming up big when it matters most

you can't make the finals 8 times and only win 3 and be the GOAT

Tfw when everyone forgets Jordan's early years where he averaged 38 fucking points. He's the best wing scorer and winner but Lebron is a better overall player.

>>75977548
>cherry picking one season to make a point

Also weren't there a ton more possessions per game then?

>>75978841
>Basketball games are won by a single person
>Jordan came up big every single game in the finals
Jordan's finals were against guys who wouldn't be on a college team today. LeBron would have done the same thing in that era.

>>75978018
The east is shut but didn't you ever think to flip the argument and think maybe no one goes in the east because it's hopeless?

>>75978833
No, I'm actually a coach and you have a tripcode on 4chan.

What's funny is that is LeBron was in the west he would be like 4-0 in the finals

>>75978898
LeBron got bodied by JJ fucking Berea

>>75979020
What like a gym teacher or some shit? Wow dude everyone move the fuck away we got me big shot in the house.

>>75978018
The west is just as bad.

What you are missing is that the NBA is a two team sport right now.

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We knew he was the GOAT in 2002

>LeBron isn't the GOAT because he lost finals
What a fucking retarded argument. Every season that you don't win a ring, you're a loser. You can say Jordan came up in the clutch since he won 6/6 which is ridiculously impressive but what about the seasons he didn't make the finals at all, why do you just ignore that because it doesn't fit the GOAT narrative?
How is it better for Jordan to have lost in the first, second or conference finals and not even make the finals than for LeBron to make the finals and lose?

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>>75978411
Laugh is all you can do, white boy.

Political activist Lebron James fighting for equality and bringing down the racist city of boston

>>75979076
D1 school that made tourney within last 3 years. This is funny. IT4 has a very different style of play which looks less fluid than a Rondo or a Paul or a Rose and I think it's playing tricks on your eyes.

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>>75979155
Now how many 73 win teams have those other guys beaten compared to LeBron?

>>75979139
I can do lots of things, actually. More than a hundred even. Owned.

Needs to win this year without Delly to confirm it

>>75979155
Was that last year or 2015? Curious how many it would be now. And why isn't Shaq listed?

>>75979134
Because you don't get gold for coming 2nd faggot. If you aren't first you might as well be last.

>>75979155
14 after he beats the Celtics

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>>75977037
why cant they do that?

>>75979209
Holy shit you can't count.

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>>75979154
>he thinks people will believe a D1 coach posts on /sp/
holy fuck man should have went with a D3 or HS team, good god hahah

>>75979196
It's a couple years old I think, probably at about 10 I'd guess.

>>75977037
He is amazing at scoring near the rim. Its shocking when he misses. If he played power forward he'd be the best one in the league. He's also a great defender, has size and quickness so he can guard every position. He's a fantastic passer. He knows the game so well, he seems to always make the correct decision on offense. He organizes the defense and makes sure everyone knows what they're doing. This season he has been an above average 3-point shooter as well. His ball-handling skills are outstanding for someone as big as him. It allows him to drive past practically anyone, because they will either be slower than him or shorter than him.

He is quite simply the most well-rounded player in the history of basketball. There is nothing he is bad at. Nothing he is even mediocre at.

>>75979224
Pacers and okc he beat were in the lockout season and they were gonna be 60 win teams if they played 82

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>>75977037
>he doesn't even look good

>>75977455
>west is still good May may

It's shit as well one team conference just the east

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>>75979196
that would make kobr look bad

>>75979048
imagine lebron on the spurs.

>>75979172
Including prep me for your girl. Be ready.

>>75978031
>implying MJ would've done any better in that finals as a 22 year old playing against the 2007 Spurs

top tier argument there

>>75978676
Brady lost 2 Superbowls I guess he can never be as good as Joe Montana?

Try harder Lebron haters

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>>75979020

Oh shit son, I didn't realize you had a copy of NBA 2K!

lol, retard

Is anyone surprised all these leafs and united islam anons are the ones that bandwagon lebron the hardest. What a bunch of fags.

>>75979320
Brady is also a cheater, only bandwagon tards consider him the goat.

>>75979169
The number of times OP has had sex.

>lebroid statpadding against kelly olynyk
>g-goat right guys?

sp is fuckboi central these days i see

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>thinking jormeme was playing against goat team in the finals

>beat old and aid magic Lakers with kareem
>beat dexlers and the literal whos
>beat jizz with a two man shows and literal who
>beating Barkley and the literal whos
>beating the sonics two man show and an old man

>>75980165
Magic was fine at that point, still great
Stockton is second best PG and Malone is top 3 PF
Sonics swept the two time champions and defeated that Jazz team

>>75976993
not until he beats the memes in these finals

>>75979447
>giving any relevance to the number of times you put your penis into a whore's gaping cunt

>>75977037

Lebron's BBIQ is the highest of anybody. I think there are other guys who match him physically desu, but nobody matches him in terms of making the correct plays every single time while also having insane passing abilities.

His only weakness is jump shooting, and even there he's well above average

>>75979320
>Brady lost 2 Superbowls I guess he can never be as good as Joe Montana?
Yeah, basically

>>75980250
So losing 17-3 to the Giants in the wild card is better than losing 17-14 to the Giants in the SB?

>losing in a finals ever

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legod

Man I can't wait for the Warriors to put a beatdown on the Cavs in the Finals. It's gonna be nasty. And I cant wait for Lebron to retire too since it'll be coming sooner now that he's off the HGH and his body is gonna start breaking down.

I'm so ready for shitheads like him and Carmelo to be gone. On with the next generation, let's see a Fultz vs. Ball rivalry, Simmons and Embiid revive the sixers, Greek Freak and Towns bringing glory to their forgotten teams. This Lebron era of superteam basketball has got to go, a 2 team league is virtually what we have. Fuck those guys like Durant who chase rings and ruin the chances of everyone else. Yeah, Cleveland got a ring, fucking good for them, now how about the Kings? Or the Suns? Or the Wolves? When they gonna get theirs? I'm tired of the same fucking teams in the finals every damn year. Let's move on to a better generation, and a better league.

>has never had a 50 point game in the playoffs

lol?

>>75977037
this isnt YLYL?

I am unironically going to miss LeBron when he declines/retires. He's really entertaining, and always has been.

>>75980365
that doesn't have to do with skill, it has to do with the team in question CHOKING

>>75980382
I can't wait for this.
Suns fan btw.

>>75980383
can't tell if you're unironically bringing up the scoring meme

>>75978097
didn't he score 40 points a game that series when iguodala "stonewalled him"

fuck off retard lmfao

>>75980433
>doesn't win championship
"the only thing that matters is winning championships, most objective measure of success lel"
>does win championship singlehandedly
"doesn't count, it's a team game, other team choked lel"

okay lmfao kys retardo

he isn't even on Larry Bird's level, don't even try to start forcing comparisons to Jordan

>>75979265
lebron's great, but let's be honest. if he played in the 90's with all those dominant big men in a league where you don't get foul calls just because someone made eye contact with you while you were driving to the basket, he would not have anywhere near the success he has today. lebron is a top 5 or 6 player, but he's not the goat.

>>75980541
are you fucking retarded. watch michael games again, watch how many ticky-tack fouls were called on his shots. he'd get foul calls if anyone came within a foot of touching him. meanwhile, lebron gets smashed by 3 guys in the lane damn near every time and still barely gets fouls

Kobe better

>>75980541
>put people into a different era and for the sake of your argument act like they would be the one random guy in the entire league trying to play today's kind of basketball
why do people do this

>>75980559
lol are you fucking retarded? you sound like bronsexual who sees what he wants to see. i'm not gonna go back and forth with your goofy ass, but you're wrong and pathetic.

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>>75976993
I never doubted it though.

>>75980585
>thread about comparing two players from different eras
>get pissy when someone talks about how their strengths would play out in the other person's era

ok

>>75980593

>completely wrong
>spergs out instead of trying to argue

im not that guy but literally lmaoing@ur life

lebron gets the shaq treatment of refs not calling fouls on him because hes so big and strong

>>75980593

Man I wanna see if Michael Jordan can play in the year 2090 lets see if he's as good at full court shots while holding his feet above his head.

Different eras you fucking nonce.

>losing in quarter finals or semifinals is better than reaching a final

this is what retards really think

>>75977492
Jordan was elegant, LeBron is like a white dude in a black mans body

>>75980593
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVy5FWFGVJ4

>>75980593
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmlfiMDUTQ4

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>>75976993
Who cares
KD bout to get his 7 rings in a row.

>lebron has been in the league longer than Jordan
>been to more finals
>has somehow lost more than Jordan
>was swept in pathetic fashion
>scored only eight points while on a superteam

>>75980607
>completely wrong
>defaults to the age old technique of accusing someone of being mad

im not that guy but literally lmaoing@ur life

lebron gets plenty of calls and flops like a diva

>>75980631
>4:15

yup, a foul where no one fucking touched michael

but yeah he was much more physical and took so much more abuse LMFAOOOOO

>>75980640
michael got 4-5 calls a game where no one even touched him

you're a fucking retard bro

Imagine bandwagoning a player that abused PEDs so hard that you talk shit about Michael Jordan. What a bunch of fucking loser millennials.

if Lebron wins the next 2 hips, he only has 1 fewer ring in the same amount of time

and he was better overall in all the seasons

>>75980706
>undefeated in the finals vs a perennial choker in the 4th quarter

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>>75980720
actually, if lebron wins the next 3 hips

he will have same rings as Jordan in same time since debut

and overall a much better performance (yes, losing to the best team of the other conference is better than losing in semifinals or getting swept in first round)

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>>75980731
Here are Leflop's stats against Kobe in the 4th quarter of the finals.

>>75980745
now post Jordan's 4th quarter stats vs. Magic in 1995

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>>75980754

>>75980765
now post Jordan in 1985, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 94(lol), 95, 01, 02

>>75980767
I don't have to, he's 6-0 in the finals. I'm a lifelong Timberwolves fan from Minnesota. I don't bandwagon a player that abused PEDs so I can feel cool. Lebron is a choke artist and I was able to watch the last years of Jordan. Jordan dominated in the 4th quarter and demanded the ball. Lebron chokes in the 4th and relies on being carried. Ray Allen, Kyrie, he's nowhere near Jordan's level and it's fucking hilarious watching these dumb fuck bandwagoners try to shit on Jordan.

>>75980731

jordan could have won 8 rings in a row if he didn't retire.

>>75980795
you're very incorrect and very close minded

Michael Jordan is and will always be the GOAT. He will never be surpassed.

>>75980827
based on what? the only thing he was best at was getting ghost calls

i'm being 100% serious. what was he best at? one fucking thing. i'll wait.

If LeBron can go 16-0 this postseason, he is without a doubt the GOAT desu

>>75980836
Lebron is a master flop artist you stupid fuck.

>>75980856
No way the Cavs sweep the Warriors.

I'll say it again:

if he wins one DPOY he has matched Jordan.

>>75980868
you're a master fucktard you stupid cuck

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>>75980877

>>75976993
>play in the least athletic conference in NBA history
>goat

no

>>75980888

everyone in the NBA exaggerates contact nowadays. It's not the players fault, its the refs for not calling obvious fouls unless the players flop. Lebron ONLY flops when it's a hard foul that the referees wouldn't call without him making a point to exaggerate it.

Jordan did the opposite and just got calls for no reason.

>>75979155
>>75979209
after soon to be 8 finals appearances.
lecuck will have only beaten 12 50+ win teams.

wow. thats pretty embarrassing

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>>75980902

The only things Jordan was better than Lebron at were jump shooting, having a real coach, and getting foul calls.

>>75980916

that's a travel, not a flop

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>>75980923

>>75980943

ever been poked in the eye?

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>>75976993
>Can we finally fucking admit that he's the undisputed GOAT?
>mfw I thought LeBron was already GOAT back in 2009.

Imma splain it for you Lebron dick riders as best as I can for you when it comes to the Jordan comparison:

It's all about LEGACY. And Jordan's will always be better. Why's that you ask? Because MJ simply accomplished more and left a greater impact. Its not just about the 6-0 in the Finals, though that is a good indicator of someone's greatness, no it's the other things he's done. MJ had a 3 year collegiate career with a championship in the NCAA, he's won 2 dunk contests that Lebron still hasn't even participated in, was steals leader 3 times, defensive player of the year award, 5 time mvp, played on the Dream Team and all while munching down Big Macs, designing his own shoe, and making a movie with Bugs Bunny. The man made a free throw with his eyes closed in the middle of a game and didn't care to dunk on 7 footers that tried to stop him at the rim. And this guy took off from the game to play baseball! Imagine if he never left! At least he won 3 chips before he ditched his team, but came back to win 3 more. In a row. For the second time. Sorry Lebron, but you will never ever pull that off.

All that MJ's done will probably never be done again. He's too memorable and just plain legendary. He made big shots and big plays all the time and his competitiveness was unmatched. If you think Lebron will have a greater career, just think of how many big shots he's made. How many times have you heard "Lebron for the win"?

>>75976993
lol he fucking sucks compared to Jordan

>>75977037
>He doesn't even look good when he plays

Exactly, he's boring like Karl Malone.

>>75980948
can it be a poke if contact was never made?

>>75978720
LMAO THIS BITCHMADE ARGUMENT
JORDAN GOAT

>>75978768
LMAO

go to bed Lebron

>>75979134
BECAUSE HE WAS BILLED AND HYPED AS THE NEXT JORDAN YOU FUCKING IDIOT LMAO

If he beats the Warriors again, he will be up there with Jordan.

>>75980227
>Lebron's BBIQ is the highest of anybody
LMAO FAGGOT HAHAHAH

>>75979054
underrated post

>>75980622
>>75980622
>One of the the most intelligent players ever was able to fine tune his game and get less fouls every season

LOL FAG

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>>75979123
>We knew he was the GOAT in 2002

This guy is actually more right than you know.

>>75980836
Based on achievement and transcendence and greatness on and off the court.

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>>75980968
>It's all about LEGACY. And Jordan's will always be better.

You're wrong. And here's Jordan's problem versus LeBron in a nutshell: MJ was too small and too weak to be able to play all 5 positions well offensively and defensively like LeBron does every series.

I don't know if you watched the game tonight, but LeBron was playing center a lot. And he was seeing a lot of Al Horford, which was fine because LeBron is actually a better center than Al Horford, who is an all-star caliber center. Jordan could never dream of this versatility. And, of course, at other points LeBron was matched up against Isiah Thomas. All-Star PG vs All-Star PG. LeBron wins again, obviously, humiliating Thomas at every turn, much in the same way he's done to Steph Curry.

In this series vs the Boston Celtics LeBron is actually the best player on the floor at every single position.

Small and weak MJ could only dream of this level of domination.

And Jordan was a shitty three point shooter - just terrible. His poor three point ability - in an age where deep shooting accuracy is seen as special and praiseworthy (in an ever increasing way) - will mean that Jordan's long term viability as GOAT is doomed.

>>75981111
LMAO FUCKING FAGGOT HAHAHAHAHA

Not even the best of his era let alone the GOAT

>>75981121
You don't know shit about the NBA. Stick to soccer, redcoat.

>>75981126
>Being less basketball literate than a Brit

You must be moritfied lmao

>>75980382
Yah I'm sure those Milwaukee/Minnesota Finals will light up the league and send ratings through the roof

>LeBron era of superteams
Do you not know how to look at a simple wiki page of past NBA champions and notice there is a lot of repeating the same teams throughout it's history? The 80s didn't have a single Finals without the Celtics or Lakers in it.

>>75981137
Okay, limey - let's test out your theory through a dialogue. So who else has shown more mastery over the game in the LeBron James era?

Who could you possibly pick? Duncan? Kobe? Both laughable choices - each were very much stuck in their positions. Garnett? He was a move towards the ultimate versatility of James, but still not quite there.

So who is it?

Shit, if we're talking about "mastery over the game" - and I've decided that we are - then we can extend that argument into all of NBA history. You still won't find anyone more masterful than LeBron.

>>75980541
And Jordans inefficient mid-range game would have him riding pine now. This is why you don't compare eras.

>>75980968
Exactly

>>75981169
>Lebron is better than the guy who literally solved Basketball

Has Lebron ever had seething autists try to change the rules?

>>75981179
LeBron is the only player that ever "solved" basketball, Briton.

Coach K would agree with me (and he's said as much) i.e. "LeBron is the only player in the history of this game that can play all five positions offensively and defensively and play them well."

But you seem to be short on arguments, guy. Am I intimidating you? Are you afraid that if you TRY that I will swiftly cut you down to size?

Your instincts are correct. At least there's that.

>>75981170
>one of the most efficient players of all time

LMAO FAGGOT HAHAHAHAHA

>>75981245
>LeBron is the only player that ever "solved" basketball, Briton.
HHAHAHAAA
HOLY SHIT
FAGGOT! LMAO

>>75981111
>Jordan's viability as GOAT is doomed

Not as long as Lebron keeps losing in the finals. He's lost 4 times right? Probably gonna be 5 pretty soon. And I gotta say it's pretty amazing that a "small and weak" MJ with a "just terrible" 3 point shot was able to rack up 6 chips and average 30 points per game in the playoffs. But yeah, he sucks, totally.

>>75981257
Prove me wrong.

Who else solved the rubix cube of each position? There is only one player - LeBron James.

Oscar could never play power forward or center and Magic was no shooting guard or small forward. So who's left? No one.

Are you still laughing?

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Lebron is a great player.

He's also a flopping, whining, bitching, ref grabbing, injury faking, cringey fuckin sack of shit that never gets called for traveling, shove-offs, and a broad array of fouls every single game.

If he's the GOAT, he's the most irritating fucking loser to have the honor and it's a great indicator of where our world is at.

>>75981265
>Who else solved the rubix cube of each position?

lol he's not the best at any position. You're a fucking bootlicking idiot

>Are you still laughing

LMAO HAHAHAHA

>>75981260
You're missing the point.

The three point shot has become the "ultimate" shot in basketball, and this reputation shows no sign of abating, and it shouldn't! 3 points on one possession will always be preferable to 2 points on one possession!

But Michael Jordan was a poor three point shooter.

This has nothing to do with LeBron James. If not LeBron, then whoever else, in other words.

Jordan cannot hang on to this mantle of GOAT in an age where three point shooting is so revered. And perhaps this is why his hold on GOAT is slipping in the first place.

>>75981245
If Lebron can play all these positions and play them so well, why does he feel the need to join up with other stars to succeed?

>>75981286
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

>>75981253
Would struggle being in the top 100 of current players but keep deluding yourself that an offense that consisted of mediocre, infrequent 3 pt shooting and 15 ft jumpshots only bailed out by driving to the hoop and getting to the line(where he was good) was somehow the most efficient offense of all time

James would have thrived in the 90s. Jordan probably would still be great now because he has the mindset of a champ, but he would undoubtedly have to change his game around.

>>75981292
He can't play them all at the same time.

>>75981306
By top 100 I meant in offensive efficiency numbers, not as an overall player

>>75981306
AAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>75981292
>If Lebron can play all these positions and play them so well, why does he feel the need to join up with other stars to succeed?

I can answer that easily with this fact: Scottie Pippen was a better basketball player than any of LeBron James' teammates.

Fact #1: Kevin Love is not better than Scottie Pippen
Fact #2: Kyrie Irving is not better than Scottie Pippen
Fact #3: Dwyane Wade is not better than Scottie Pippen
Fact #4: Chris Bosh....

Well you get my point.

Jordan was LUCKY to land a teammate like Scottie Pippen, and IN FACT he had Jerry Krause to thank for the drafting of Pippen in the first place.

LeBron has only had shit-tier GMs. Jerry Krause is a hall-of-famer. End of story.

>>75981294
That's not an argument.

Would you care to be more articulate for the sake of truth and justice?

>>75981286
Okay, so you're saying the 3 point shot is the measurement by which a GOAT will be judged in today's and possibly the future NBA, and since Jordan didn't have that, he will lose his standing as GOAT.

If that's the case then you pretty much just said that Steph Curry is GOAT.

>>75981320
>tfw Lebron bandwagon fans are too butthurt to let the tread die

Lmao

>>75981320
Wade is a thousand times better than Pippen, hahaha you fucking faggot ass idiot LMAO

>>75981330
>If that's the case then you pretty much just said that Steph Curry is GOAT.

Steph needed to maintain that domination through the finals, which he did not. He was intimidated by LeBron and essentially dominated by LeBron.

This proves my point. In the age of the three point shot, the greatest three point shooter of all time cowered down to LeBron James in the league's most important games.

>>75981312
B-but why not?? He's the King! The Chosen One! LeGod!!

M-maybe he wasn't fitting of those titles then?

>Lebron leaves his team to join 2 superstars, wins 2 rings, chokes the rest.

>2 superstars getting old, Lebron ditches them to rejoin the Cavs who are entering the peak of a rebuild, trades their #1 pick for Love.

>Lebron wins one ring thanks to the meme team choking their shit up.

And people think this fag is the goat, lmao.

>>75981340
>Wade is a thousand times better than Pippen

Nope. Wade was too small. In other words, Pippen could do everything Wade could do, but while being longer and more versatile.

So if I had to choose between Pippen and Wade for any of my teams, I would take Pippen over Wade 10 out of 10 times.

>>75981360
LMAO FAGGOT

>>75981353
There's literally only one of him on the court. He can't pass it from point to himself on the post.

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>>75981360

>>75981366
>>75981379

Still waiting for an argument, mongoloid.

>>75981360
You know nothing of basketball, way to out yourself. Pippen was good, he wasn't that good

>>75981345
You do remember that Steph and company beat Lebron in the finals once already right? Lebron hasn't asserted any dominance yet, they're 1-1 in the finals and the tie breaker is on the way.

And I dunno about your point being proven, you pretty much just said whoever has the best 3 point shot is the GOAT and between Lebron and Curry, we know who the better 3 point shooter is.

I like to look at things like win-loss records and rings to determine greatness, but hey to each his own.

>>75981405
Pippen was an original Dream Team member, son. He was so good that he STARTED at Small Forward in the Gold Medal game on the original Dream Team.

He was only 26.

And when Jordan left the Bulls Pippen became an instant MVP and DPOY candidate as well as winning All-Star MVP.

And when Jordan returned to the Bulls in 1995 it was commonly asserted that Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen were the two best players in the NBA.

And ask any professional today who was the better defender, Scottie Pippen or Dwyane Wade, you'd probably get laughs. It's Pippen without question and twice on Sundays. Pippen is, in fact, probably one of the two greatest perimeter defenders of all-time - if not just the absolute best.

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>>75981433
Imagine being this much of a dumbfuck who never even watched Jordan/Pippen play argue Leflop is the goat.

>>75981406
>You do remember that Steph and company beat Lebron in the finals once already right?

The only time that Golden State beat LeBron in a series was when he was without Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving, and in a series where Cleveland actually led 2-1.

In other words, yes, Steph and Co. beat LEBRON in the Finals, but they haven't yet beat the Cavs in the Finals.

>>75981433

Pippen was also a giant fucking cuck

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>>75981447
I bought my first Jordan's in 1987, dumbass. I'm not a young man.

And I was the biggest Jordan fan from that point until he retired. That also made me the biggest Bulls fan. And I even watched all of MJ's shitty Wizards games (it was worth it - he had his moments).

So when MJ retired I thought I would never again see a player like him for the rest of my life - and that feeling lasted all through my Allen Iverson phase.

But it stopped when I first noticed LeBron.

That was in 2007 against Detroit. That's when I realized that LeBron was not an ordinary star player.

So, you're wrong. I was a first row participant in all of Jordan's successes. And I was also the same for LeBron. I watched both in detail and equally, and, in the end, I judge LeBron to be the better player.

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>>75981475

LeBeta isn't even the best SF of all time (Larry Bird).

>>75980836
Best at being a one man team and a champ. Has there ever been a handful of teams that could finally have a shot at a title because 1 player left? He would've been part of a World Series title if it wasn't for the MLB strike.

>>75981495
>drawn by Caleb, 14 years old

>>75981480
Even weaker.

Your arguments are the worst I've ever experienced here on sp.

>>75978278
>scrub teams
>OKC team with three players who are probably in the top ten right now
> Spurs team with the most consistent coach and whose passing surpassed the 86' Celtics
>73-9 team who sat their best player, the 1st ever uniamous MVP, in the 4th because they blew teams by so much
>led in every single stat against said 73-9 team and had to beat then three times straight, twice at their home.

Face it, he's the best.>>75980541

He has three rings and didn't earn his first until basically playing on an all star roster
Even ginobili has four

Honestly? He has too much of a stink on him from being a passive faggot the first half of his career. I refuse to acknowledge someone is the goat when they had single digit points in a finals game, especially when you're the favorite and lose the series

>>75981554
Also if you think about Kobe, who was still putting down 40 point playoff games fifteen years into his career, he quickly deteriorated because of injury. James isn't far away from that same scenario

>>75981571
LeBron James looks like a 25 year old athletic phenom today. He's more dominant physically at age 32 than Blake Griffin has been at any age.

So if you're hoping for LeBron to start looking like an old man, you're going to be holding this hope for a long time - it's not going to happen at any time within the next 5 years.

>>75980634
*rings

>>75978550
Jerry Rice is the GOAT, though.

>>75979320
>Brady lost 2 Superbowls I guess he can never be as good as Joe Montana?
Brady has never been as good as prime Montana. Belichick >>> Walsh, though.

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>>75981630
Bron is nearing fathertime already 32 years of age.
KDs like 28 or something with elite teammates around his age.

>>75981585
lol Blake Griffin has been damaged goods since he as drafted. Why even mention him
And also LeBron has been nursing back injuries for like two years now

>>75981526
>OKC was a completely green team
>Spurs shot themselves in the foot when Pops took out Duncan too early in the game, gotten too cocky with the "old" shit
>Beat the 73-9 team after suspending Green and killing Bogut busted the D. Mind you that Warriors were killing the Cavs with the Splash Bros being cold.

At least Jordan dominated his Finals. And also the East was the stronger conference when Jordan was playing. The Bulls were really the ubermensch team and they were only that with Jordan. People forget that the Bulls didn't make it to the Finals without Jordan during that NBA-imposed temporary exile.

The only real EC competition that LeBron never had was the late 00s Celtics with Pierce, KG and Jesus Shuttleworth.

Wilt is the GOAT.

>>75977481
>He defeated the best team in the west.
He also lost to the best team in the West the prior year.

>>75977481
daily reminder that the warriors have one championship

>>75980640
confirmed for not actually watching games

i don't think i've seen LeBron flop even once this season and people always try to fucking assault him when he's near the rim because they know they can't stop him any other way

https://youtu.be/PbGyevTmDq0

>>75976993
>this thread again

lel less game
worse stats
no

>>75981869
yeah, with his two All Stars out, and he still took a 67 win team to 6 games while playing with dudes who are riding the bench in shit teams nowadays as replacement for his two All Stars

>>75978720
>Jordan had scrubs.

>beat all time nba stealer and assists leader twice
>beat multiple mvps
>beat clyde
>beat showtime lakers
>beat jordan rules pistons
>beat shawn kemp and payton

Please kid

>>75981832
>suspending Green

he suspended himself
4 flagrant fouls in the playoffs = 1 game suspension

of he wasn't kicking Steven Adams in the balls the series before that he could have gotten away with slapping LeBron on the dick

>>75981320
Wait, we are pretending Pippen is a great player now? I guess for kiddies that will work.

>>75977037
is Iverson the goat?

Is that you chuck?

Jordan is the G.O.A.T. in basketball, Lebron has no chance of catching him no matter what he does for the rest of his career.

Yes, yes. Well done MJ well done... HOWEVER, Tom Brady is the G.O.A.T. of G.O.A.T.s

>>75980382
>Durant beating lebron
>Curry not choking in a finals
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Bird's highlight reel shits on all others. That is what matters. That is what pulls the crowds.

>>75978676
If LeBron wins 3 more titles before retiring, will he be better than Jordan with 10 finals appearances vs Jordan's 6?

I mean, yeah Jordan didn't lose 4 finals, but that just means he lost before even reaching the finals more often.

>>75982408
He's already better, chap!

>>75982408
Nope. Simply because it took Jordan less time in a much better Eastern conference than LeBron did at an comparatively older age.

If LeBron played in the West in his career, it would be another story though.

>>75982100
>Brady
>GOAT
Brady is as GOAT as LeBron is. He got his last two rings because the other team went straight derp than Brady's skill.

Belichick is the GOTG coach. He would be a shoo-in for GOAT if he didn't cheat. Which is insulting for him to do that because he is a smart enough coach not to do that.

>>75976993
he takes PEDs and will get Barry Bonds'd

>>75982567
for sure mj was natty my man

>>75982535
EC was utter shit during Jordan's time.

>>75982835
Not true

>>75982835
>EC was utter shit in Jordan's time
>who are the Knicks, Pacers, Heat?
Even the Magic was decent with Shaq.
Thanks for confirming that you haven't watched 90's basketball. Anyone who actually watched it know that the EC was the better conference that time. You vastly underestimed how intergal Jordan was to the Bulls. They couldn't get to the Finals without him with Pippen leading that tean. The EC became a joke after Jordan's generation retired or went way past their prime.

>>75982894
None of those teams were any good. Just look at their records against WC teams.

>>75982894
The West had
>Karl Malone's Jazz
>Hakeem's Rockets
>Admiral's Spurs
>Trailblazers and Sabonis
>Barkley's Suns
Anyone who watched basketball back in the 90s knew the only good team out of the East were the Bulls.

>half the rings
>half the finals mvps
>a faggot
How is he better than Jordan?

>>75981698
>Jerry "Stickum" Rice
>GOAT

>>75982894
funny how the bulls made it farther with pippen leading than with mj pre-pippen

Hmmmmmmmm

>>75988778
MJ didn't have Phil back then though. Plus Bad Boy Pistons were legit although they would never survive the touch fouls of today.

>>75982939
>seriously listing the Suns, Trailblazers or Spurs.

The Trailblazers, Suns or the Spurs pre-Duncan were not serious contenders. The Trailblazers were like the plucky team everyone liked but they were low seeds for most of the 90s. LOL Suns. Admiral's Spurs were good but they lacked that intergal part that they needed, which is why they intentionally tanked one year to get Duncan who completely changed the game for them.

Only legit were the Rockets, even though they were like the late 00s Celtics that they peaked at the right time then flamed out after 3-4 season. The Jazz were Stockton and Malone, possibly the second best 1-2 after Jordan and Pippen, but they still got creamed by the Bulls.

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>>75976993

When he wins his 12th NBA Championship I'll gladly give him this imaginary title.

Until, go beat off and stop shit posting, Pokemon.

>>75989129
Then they simply wouldn't use techs, they were skilled enough to gentleman sweep GSW today.

>>75988778
really activates my almonds tbqh

>>75989129
when he wins its all credit to him but when he loses its not?

fuck off

everyone knows he's the goat. some people just don't want to admit it cause they have a hard on for someone else. it's kind of like when a beta because obsessed with one girl and doesn't even realize that there's hot chicks everywhere. but he just won't let go off that one roastie and will never admit he's in the wrong

even jordan himself said lebron would have dominated during jordan years. lebron is the best basketball player in the world. there's no question about it

>>75989708
>The Trailblazers were like the plucky team everyone liked but they were low seeds for most of the 90s
They went to 1 NBA finals and twice went to WCF in the 90s. They averaged 49.5 wins for the decade. But all this happened before you were born so you are excused for not knowing about them.

>Admiral's Spurs were good but they lacked that intergal part that they needed
And they were better than any EC team except the Bulls.

>>75990972
>ignore that MOST of the 90s.
Seriously, only deluded LeBronfags legitmately think the East sucked in the 90s. You also ignoring that the Knicks were basically the only team that could bring the Bulls to 7 games (and several times at that) that managed to keep them close to the last minutes. But go ahead with your delusions.

>>75977037
How the fuck did this shitty bait get this many replies?

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>>75977037
>being this stupid
>not understanding how good playoff lebron is

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>mfw cocky Larriors fans on my /sp/
when will they learn?

Lebron only has one iconic moment, that block against the GSW. Jordan has like ten of those.

>>75995656
>Game 5 vs Pistons
>Gamewinner on Magic
>Game 6 vs Celtics
>Game 5, 6, and 7 vs Warriors: where he led in every stat in must-win games

He has iconic games.

>>75980480
On like 500 shots

>>75996351
Tru but to be fair that roster was shitty

>>75978002

>Jordan also never beat the Pistons "Bad Boys" in their primes

Isiah was 29, Joe Dumars was 27. Every serious rotational player was late 20s, early 30s in the 90-91 season when the Bulls swept the Pistons, so I don't know what you're getting at.

>>75977548
Prime Bird was pretty much as good as LeBron, but he couldn't sustain it and that lack of longevity is why LeBron belongs above him in the GOAT rankings.

>>75977571
I don't disagree, Jordan is still the GOAT but LeBron is clearly #2 now.

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>>75977037
>I honestly don't get whats so special about him

>why can't they do what he does?