>"big club"
>their only European achievement it's just one cup winners' cup
That's about the same success as clubs as Zaragoza, Magdeburg, Dynamo Tibilisi, Slovan Bratislava, Aberdeen, Werder Bremen, Sampdoria. Even frigging Tottenham have been more successful in Europe than them. Explain this "big club" meme without "muh ancient leagues", pretty sure nobody considers Athletic Bilbao or Torino big clubs anymore
>>75863084
Nobody calls arsenal a big club m8, sorry your thread is irrelevant.
>>75863100
The bongs do
>titles are more relevant than revenue
>>75863183
t. Kroenke
>>75863084
>Champions League
>best cup
You can feasibly lose 5 games and still win the whole thing, you can it barely scoring goals and barely winning games. Its a meme corporations have sold to you. Even domestic cups are harder to win as most of them are straight knock out.
>>75863603
>Arse Wanker actually believes this
>>75863603
>you can it barely scoring goals
nice
>>75863680
Tell me what isn't true about that statement. You can lose 2 or even 3 in group stage and you can lose one game in each knock out round
Sorry did I pop the bubble UEFA has you floating in?
The only reason they call themselves a big club is the amount of fans they have.
Chelsea are a bigger club.
>>75863603
You can lose 5 games and still win the league.
>>75863603
If it's that easy to do why doesn't Arsenal?
>>75863742
5/38 is better than 5/13
>>75863772
If its easy for one its easy for all, only one can be lucky enough win it though.
>>75863680
he's actually right, you can make it to the finals 0-0 home, 1-1 away in every stage of the tourney
>>75863798
So do you think it's a coincidence that the teams that win it are consistently the best in Europe? Why are situations like Chelsea in 2012 so rare these days, if it's just luck?
>>75863146
only arsenal fans.
>>75863146
the bongs also say "this time it's coming home, lads" every 2 years
Nobody thinks Arsenal is a big club
>>75863838
It's not entirely luck-based, but it's stupid to say that the team that wins the Champions League is the best team in Europe. That wasn't the case for 2012, 2014, 2016 and arguably 2010, which is half of the CL winners this decade.
>>75864036
This
>>75863084
tfw we have the same UCL finals as arsenal
>>75863146
no we don't
>>75863084
is yours le gold XD
Arsene Wenger is bigger than Arsenal anyway
let's see how good they are on a cold night in stoke
ze goldun premier liig titul
>>75863183
Well the teams with tons of revenue are big clubs that have consistently won things.....
>>75863146
not anymore, early 2000s maybe but after 2006 arsenal are known as a 'nice' club that plays attractive football and wins fuck all by most fans. they play like shit now too so guess thats gone.
>>75864036
t. butthurt arsenal fan
>>75863146
Arsenal was a big club maybe 13 years ago but sure as fuck not now, they're a joke team.
>Third most trophies won by an English club
>Not big
>All these Americlaps, maple syrup suckers and kangaroo lickers acting like they have an opinion
Dear lord get out of my /sp/, why can't we have a euro only board
>>75863146
It's really cute how much the Spanish hate us.
You stay mad over us sinking your Armada yeah?
And that piece of rock you get enraged by called GibraltOURS
Stay mad pedro
We ended your reign at the top and layed your path to the unemployed shitfest your country is atm
>>75864036
While this isn't wrong, the problem is even bigger with straight knock-out competitions
Leagues are the only viable way to determine which is the best team, cups on any level are mostly about the immediate importance of a single game. Finals that directly determine the winner are typically more intense.
Not to mention, it allows people to make a note in the calendar and spend one evening or a couple watching instead of having to bother with every shit league game like >us autists
>>75876411
Agreed 100%
>>75876324
How are you seething this much over a simple answer lol