>A modern player is doing this on a weekly basis and you haven't

>>75851330

>0(zero) trophies outside his system

If you think hes the best footballer that ever lived youre either clinically retarded or just american

must be really hard to do a quick spin and lob to the winger or jordi alba every time

>>75851455
>his system
Nice choice of words

>>75851455
That's a lie over there. He won the olympic games in 2008.

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>>75851455
>his system


that's right, it's HIS system

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>>75851455
who is better?

>>75851693
Classic braindead american hero worship

Sure, he's really good, but so is the rest of barca

>>75851817
americans need someone to cling on to. we have no good sawker players ourselves.

>>75851330
>3 lost finals without doing ANYTHING
>goat
JUST

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>>75851693
>that stolen Real Madrid crown

Top kek senpai

>>75852156
Empatamos las dos finales exclusivamente porque necesitabamos, al menos, 3 jugadores para marcar bien a Messi. El que tu selección sea así de cagona, con esa ventaja, no es culpa de Messi.

>>75851455
>he's only good if he wins under the specific conditions in my mind that aren't even my original ideas and were conceived after the fact

>>75851817
>Trying to claim that that poster reveres Messi because he's American

Very quick way to discredit yourself. That's just full blown retarded, Messi is globally worshipped (and probably less so in the US than anywhere else)

>>75852324
el chileANO

>>75851330
>weekly
Kek. Las Palmas I love uuuuuuuu

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>he got to a world cup final with this team

still can't believe it

>>75852874
damn that Germany if anything actually underperformed in 2014

>>75851455
fpbp

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>implying Messi can compete with Pogbanoff

>>75852874
>romero pushing the ball into his own net

holy kek

>>75852958
Kroos wasn't quite in his peak yet as he is now, Özil was already playing for Arsenal so he was in constant mental JUST state and couldn't perform, Khedira was permadead and Klose an old man.

>>75852324
THIS

>>75852874
>6 players from the same club vs players from 5 different leagues
That's the main reason of your victory, you actually had a team and we just a few individualities

>>75852874
>tf
>tp

Di Maria carried that team to a final, not Missis

>>75851330
>amerishart reditor worshipping autistic tattooed dyed-haired manlet
checks out.

He doesn't do it every week he does it like once a month if that

you have to be atleast 5'8' to be considered goat

>>75853166

That's how you win the world cup now, 2006 was the last time anyone could win. Now clubs spew out oil money left and right. The winner of the world cup will be whoever has the most players from a single top club.

>>75853453
You wish you were a moroccan pretty boy so that CR7 would let you suck his dick

>>75851330
>>A modern player is doing this on a weekly basis

lmao at this delusion

why didn't he do it in any champions league knockout games this year? or last year?

why hasn't he scored a single goal in the CL QF, SF or F since 2015? the real best player in the world has scored about 10 in those games in that period

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>>75851330
>>75851330
He is the GOAT people just get the argument mixed up. They think that when we say that messi is the GOAT we are saying barca is better than madrid. NOOO We are saying (Messi) is the GOAT

>>75857324
>facts=bait

>>75851330
Only idiots and trolls think Ronaldo is better than Messi. All you have to do is watch.

>>75857336
Also pretty much every muslim in the world, but that's mainly because he plays for Real and Real are historically the biggest club or w/e.

>>75857324
how is it bait? it's literall facts.

didn't score once in the past 4 CL knockout games against Atletico(Ronaldo has 4 in his past 3)

didn't score a single goal against Juventus. scored one penalty in PSG

goals in QF, SF and final in 2016 = 0
goals in QF, SF and final in 2017 = 0

these are facts

>>75857378
This is all correct but it's not about who is the best right now (if Ronaldo should be considered so right now) but who is the GOAT

>>75853048
can I have a quick rundown?

>>75857171
Damn right I do

>>75857406
t. newfag

>>75852305
Prepare juve pepe with that crown, we will need it

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>every week

>>75857394
>WC 2014 final: chokes
>copa america 2015 final: chokes
>copa america 2016 'Messi pls win' edition final: chokes
>GOAT

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>>75857451
>i-i-i-i-i-i-iits a-all h-h-higuains fault!!!!111 !!!!!

>>75851330
it's fucking contrarians and facebook arabs who never actually watch games and just look up the stats who claim Ronaldo is even close to Messi

also why do we keep having this fucking discussion? so sick of it and really can't wait until both of them retire.

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>>75857499
>muslims and arabs only fan boy ronal-

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>>75857525
>Indian
>muslim

>>75851455
>Messi is systembabby
Cr7 always won with a world class team who made all the work for him to statpad, esp for Portugal with which he didn't do shit in the final

>>75857530
india has the second largest muslim population in the world m8

to me Maradona still has to be dethroned

>>75857584
wouldn't that already be the case if like 1,5% of their population were muslim?

>>75852874
>there are people who actually don't rate messi because he didn't win the fucking WORLD CUP with that pile of shit

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>>75857571

Ronaldo tried so hard to make a name for himself but failed. Luckily his team was there to win it for him.

You know I'm quite happy to witness the Messi & Ronaldo era.
My dad always talks about Beckenbauer, Maradona etc.
But now imagine 20-40 years into the future will we really see a better player than Messi?
I dont think so and will enjoy the banter of Messi being better than whatever fotm shit gets hyped in the future.

>>75857571
>Cr7 always won with a world class team
lmao

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>>75857430
>>75852305

>>75852874
>flag
ugh, that team had one of best defences in the last decade. they had 7 clean sheets in 10 knockout games during those 3 runs to the final.

>>75852874
are you fucking retarded?

>>75852874
Romero < Neuer
Zabaleta = Lahm
Demichelis < Boateng
Garay < Hummels
Rojo = Howedes
Di Maria > Ozil
Macherano >Khedira
Biglia < Kroos
Higuain > Muller
Messi > Schweinsteiger
Lavezzi > 38 year old Klose

Messi is the most talented greatest player that ever lived.

Yet, Ronaldo managed to be as good as him, sometimes better, stealing titles, ballon doors and even managing to win the euros while being less talented, playing in different teams and different systems.

Messi is just a testament of how good Ronaldo is.

>>75857695
>Zabaleta = Lahm

stopped right there, Liam

>>75851330

Messi and Ronaldo take PEDs.

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>>75851330
>2009 is almost 10 years ago

>>75857669
Can't wait to use this in june. Thanks dutchy

>>75851330
It's pretty easy to dribble players who are 20 cm taller than you. Your nerves are shorter (faster reflexes), the ball is relatively bigger to your feet (easier to control), and you have a lower gravity center (better balance and quicker turn-arounds).
2bh football is the only sport where being shorter can be a decisive advantage.

>People unironically rate le score important goal man

He's an absolutely shite defender.

>>75858009
>2bh football is the only sport where being shorter can be a decisive advantage.

nope, gymnastics

Missi's slight edge comes from he is allowed to roid. Sure, every footballer takes their vitamins but he is injected hgh ffs. It is not even gray zone, literally banned in all sports.
Barca should just assemble a group of midgets and send them to Fuentes camp, #ggez.

>>75858255
Please point to me the part where 1,90 m gymnasts won Gold medals in the last Olympics.
You can't, because football is the only sport where height isn't an absolute advantage.

Post ONE good play he did in the 3 finals HE lost
I only ask for one
He didnt make a single good pass, or a goal situation in 3 ! Finals

>>75858309
>football is a social sport, where players *must* go along well with their teammates to perform correctly
Argie has shocking revelation that shocks the entire nation.

>>75858309
>Literally put 3 goals on a plate for Higuain in the WC final
>Messi's fault

This is like when everywhere you look there's an (((echo))) and then it's obvious who's to blame. White people.

>>75858727
No that was Kroos

>daily basis

>>75858727
>put 3 goals on a plate for Higuain in the WC final
lol. he didn't put 3 goals on a plate for Higuain the entire WC

>>75851693
Messi is the goat but you could easily make that pic with Xavi, Iniesta or anyone from that generation really

>>75857499
>facebook arabs only like Ronaldo

where did this delusion came from? a shit ton of them love Messi and Barcelona, the Ronaldo/Messi debate is as big for them as the Shia/Sunni conflict

>>75859311
its the usual "i dont like thing so i associate it with other things i dont like". its also almost always an american or german who brings the ronaldo-arab connection up since one has refugees taking their women while other went 2,996-19 against them in 2001

>>75859311
Bruh

>>75851330
seriously why has he never done that with an argentinian shirt?

>>75859311
>Sunni-Shia conflict

the gypsy shits up the thread as per usual

>>75851693
pls shoop bronze statue ronaldo head on messi's hand where he is lifting his fist.

>>75859311
lol'd IRL

>>75861319
he did it vs brazil

in a friendly...

>>75851455
Retarded Norwegian fuck detected

>>75859267
not anyone just xavi and iniesta

>>75851455
FPBP

>>75861319
Argentina is just cursed

>>75851831

We have 1 if youre willing to POAST it

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>>75858309

Messi was the only player who cared to win against Germany. The rest were complete choke artists because they didn't have Di Maria there to run for them.

This is him in minute 90 of the world cup, defending better than his defender, playing as midfielder, decent through pass, and when the play fails he runs back to the German defender to attempt another take-on.
No one else in Argentina had heart, I feel sorry for you and for Argentina. You never deserved Messi.

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>>75861644
>in a friendly...

>>75857669
kek, based

saved

>>75857670
>that team had one of the best defences
>tf
>tt
Dumb halal gypsy third worlder.

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CR7 is a fookin beast but Messi is just better

Unfair maybe but dats da truth

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Erryone who knows football knows dat Messi is easily all-time Top 3 when CR7 is top 15 maximum

Even the true Ronaldo was better

>>75857525
>Goes to St. Anthony High School
>Muslim

He's clearly a christian indian. There's 27 million of the btw.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_India

>>75851693
that image is bullshit

>>75851330
we tried everything, no regrets about "wasting the GOAT"

We tried making a team that works without him, and putting him on top of it, so he doesn't feel the pressure (Basile). It didn't work.

We tried making a team that plays like Barcelona so he can feel comfortable (Martino, Batista). It didn't work.

We tried making a team that is good at defending and making him the center of our attack, Maradona 1986 style (Sabella). It didn't work.

He chokes against Brazil. Okay, Brazil is a great team. He chokes against Germany. Okay, Germany is a great team. He chokes against Uruguay, okay, they are world champions.

We sacked coaches and players because he didn't like them (Riquelme, Tevez, Basile). We put in coaches and players just because he asked (Martino and his Newell's friends).

He doesn't score in KO games? Maybe he's saving up for the next game. Maybe he's saving up for the final.

Now he had this chance in silverware. He only had to perform against Chile (so you understand how small they are, 3 people died celebrating a Copa America). Many people would have hailed him as the GOAT, even though winning a Copa America of which we have 14 already doesn't mean much.

Not only he doesn't perform, that's okay, another bad day. Not only he doesn't score, it's okay, 11 KO games without scoring, but it's okay, he's still good. Not only he doesn't assist, it's okay, it's your team mates right? They are your friends Messi, you sacked Tevez, you asked for Higuain and Aguero. But okay, we get it, you didn't assist.

On top of all that, he doesn't even run. He just walks the pitch. Fuck him.

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>>75851693
Easy

>>75851330
>>75851330
>think anyone comes even close to his skill level.

When will millenials who were fed by FIFA games and Youtube compilations understand that you need more than skill to be the goat?

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>messifags

you have to go back (to middle school)

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>>75864797

Howcome Dutch players were the only ones that wore accessories?

>>75864727
>>75864873
Have a (you) lad. Your posts look pathetic and lonely without one.

>>75864944
Because they were fucking ballers, kut

>>75851455
>implying it's the same system the whole time

>>75869056
>remove Xavi-Iniesta
>replace with SN

>>75869096
Suarez and Neymar are identical players to Xavi and Iniesta?

Same players doesn't mean same system.

>>75852324
Es solamente otro episodio de un hincha argentino siendo pecho frio, no le prestes atencion amigo chileno

>>75869231
The effectiveness is what matters senpai

>>75864660
his name is faisal khan ffs you utter idiot

khan is solely used by muslims in india

faisal is a common arabic muslim name

>>75852874
7 of the 11 players were from bayern including Gotze, they already played with eachother thousands of time giving them an over all advantage in the WC. thats why germany won, pure fucking team work my nigga

>>75858009
>Your nerves are shorter
I'm pretty sure this gotta make no difference. Electricity be fast. I'm pretty sure it's just the small legs allow for greater acceleration.

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>>75869491

>>75869491
The same with spain 2010 and italy 2006

>>75869493
The lower gravity center is what matters the most.

>>75853166
7 players actually
>>75869491

>>75869617
yeah spain was literally half Real half barca players

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>>75857462

>tfw if Messi had chosen Spain over Argentina no one would question his greatness.

The "GOAT" now doesn't have to win anything outside of his club football because now the "GOAT" hasn't won anything outside of his club football let alone outside of the only club he has played for.
We should go back and examine other potential "GOATS" now that we can discard Maradona for being average in club football despite winning the World Cup.

>>75864797
>playing football wearing all this jewerly
Based af

>>75857336
but R9 is better

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>>75864797
Sit the fuck down

>>75853166
It's the secret to Italy's success under Conte
Germany vs Italy should've been the final

>>75853048
Quick rundown please?

>>75858309
Come on, he was the best argentinian player in the world cup final.

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>>75851455

it's funny how No_way destroyed OP's thread with just one reply, all the butthurt messi dick riders will be confused and deny this.

>>75853166
>That's the main reason of your victory, you actually had a team and we just a few individualities

Yes, but even with this fact Argentia was better in regular 90 mins. The main reason for their victory in that final is Argentina's extra time physical collapse due to 2nd consecutive extra time with a day less of rest.

>>75869493
Shorter nerves matter. Even if you are 2% faster it's all it takes to make the difference

>>75864423
>tf knowing nothing yet again
>my little soccer fag posting in a real football thread
KEK, no fat niggers in spandex here amigo. jog on

>>75875646
>It's the secret to Italy's success under Conte
what success?

>>75874595
This.

One time, just one f'ing time, would someone please post a vidya of Penaldo doing anything remotely close to that. Just one? That's all I ask.

>inb4 burger