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1966: England wins the World Cup. 1976: The Euros only had 4

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1966: England wins the World Cup.
1976: The Euros only had 4 countries competing in the final tournament in those days. England finished one point behind the eventual champions (Czechoslovakia) in the qualifying stages.
1986: Lost to the eventual champions (Argentina) who needed a handball goal to go in front. Gary Linekar was the competition's top scorer.
1996: Lost to the eventual champions (Germany) on sudden death penalties. Alan Shearer was the competition's top scorer.
2006: Lost to Portugal on penalties after losing our captain to injury and going down to 10 men.
2016: Knocked out by a meme team coached by a part-time dentist that had never played in a major international tournament before.

Where did it all go so wrong?
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>>75736202
>linekar
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>>75736202

who gives a shit about international football?

i would much rather everton win the league cup once than england win the world cup for the next 100 years
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>>75736202
The money pumped into the PL made your league into one consisting of foreign mercenaries.
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>>75736248
Neither of those will ever happen
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Never have a tactical gameplan and use the same players right up until they retire. Why the fuck was Gerrard at the last world cup?

Bottlejobs at pens too, think we have the worst record in the world
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>>75736202
lack of youth development from the big english teams and poor choices of national team managers

so yeah, to answer your question, it went wrong after 2006. keep in mind that (in my opinion) england had the second best team in the world after brazil at the 2002 WC, so its not like its been all useless since '66, you just need a lucky youth intake and a decent manager

lelgium have an amazing young generation right now, but its completely wasted by meme managers. maybe after leaving united >mouyes could manage for a tournament or two, then you might win something
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>>75736202
>Where did it all go so wrong?

The FAs bias towards man u and Liverpool players

This was fine when they were actually good, but endlessly persevering with shit like Rooney and Henderson has killed any chance we had in the last ten years
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>>75736202

The problem has always been the manager. We've had total shit since Sir Bobby.
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>>75736248
England are the Everton of the internationals
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>>75736295
Sven was good. Capello was meh but still better than all the shit English managers in the past,
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Part time dentist.
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>>75736303

I'm not convinced Sven was good, he just had a quality squad. He still persisted with stupid choices like Scholes on the wing.
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>>75736295
At one point you'll just have to admit your team is shit.
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>>75736293
Which quality players have been ignored? I can't think of anyone in particular
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>>75736331

It's shit now, from 96 to 2002 it was genuinely good.
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>>75736323
He only lost 5 competitive matches with England and they became the 4th ranked team in the World under him.
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>>75736295
>>75736303

I wish we could have just one tournament with a world class manager, Fergie would have been ideal. Knew all the players and would mentally toughen them up. We always seem panicky, even against teams like Iceland.
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>>75736348
It's not so much that quality players have been ignored, more so that mediocre players have been shoehorned into a team that doesn't suit them purely because they play for a "big" club
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>>75736361
This is why Big Sam should've stayed.
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>>75736349
Is that why we beat you twice?
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>>75736202
2002 team was stacked as fuck... but it was unfortunate enough to meet Brazil and got rekt
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>>75736401

The proudest days in your country's history.
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>>75736406
No it fucking wasn't. it was about as shit as every other English team.
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>>75736413
No one fucking cares anymore when it's become habit.
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>>75736379
He lacked continental experience tbf. Need someone who has faced Barcelona, Bayern, Juve etc. and can actually formulate some tactical variation instead of foul people and hoof to Rooney.
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>>75736331
it was genuinely an excellent squad, even six years ago it was decent still
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>>75736432
Not him but you're a bit of a loser to think your country's proudest achievements were beating England - who we all agree aren't very good - twice.

I can't wait to see you respond thinking I'm English.
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England has a weird self-perception of itself.
Since their technical inferiority compared to other champions is undeniable, they decided to claim to be compensating that with physicality, speed and toughness. These are all myths, they aren't particularly physical, fast or tough. England is just average and has no football identity.
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>>75736461
I never even implied that's my country's proudest achievement. You're all inbred frogfaced monsters when waving that flag tho, so I don't make assumptions.

>>75736460
It was nothing but mediocre. And 9 years ago they got rekt by an already qualified Croatia.
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>>75736275
I would happily take Mouyes at this point. He knows English players since he's spent so long in the Premier League and he knows how to park the bus and defend when we need to do. And unlike managers like Big Sam and Tony Pulis, he actually has experience with foreign football so he can prepare for them accordingly.
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>>75736491
individual games mean nothing

also
>gypsy calling anyone else out on visual appearance

is this for real? glass houses and stones and all that, laddy
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>>75736202
reminder that England did not qualify in 1974, because they couldn't beat Poland at their own game, in their own backyard.
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>>75736524
>gypsy calling anyone else out on visual appearance

Anglos are honestly the ugliest white people on the planet, especially the women.

>individual games mean nothing
Sure, but England has been historically absolute garbage
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>>75736260
stupid gypsy cunt

learn to read English you thick caravan dwelling dick nose
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>>75736549
>said I can't wait for you to assume I'm English
>he goes and assumes I'm English

You're a dumb person, friend.
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>>75736480

strong defenders and playing from the back has always been our identity

terry, adams, ferdinand, charlton, butcher, campbell, keown, bruce etc. all tough blokes
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>>75736563
>>75736551
You're way too rustled for a Saturday morning

>>75736563
I'm still not assuming you're English, even though there's an 80-ish% chance I'd be right.
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>>75736503
he would be a perfect fit, yeah

as someone else said earlier ferguson would have been a great manager, im annoyed he didnt atleast have one tournament with england, but iirc he didnt like international management during his time with scotland so he didnt want to do it again. shame really, but i dont think england could have done much better with the team they had around his retirement. the future is looking brighter with kane and alli, but there's still meme players like barkley, henderson and wilshere which spoil it

>>75736549
>anglos are ugly
lol ok romania, what has this to do with sports? post pics of yourself if you're so handsome and gifted with fine genetics...

>england has been historically garbage
not really, only in the last six years has it gone really disastrous for them, they've been exceptionally unlucky with penalties and meme goals and misses
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>>75736578
and now we have Stones and Cahill
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>>75736609
cahill is good, stones is a total meme to appeal to the "tippy-tappy" hipsters, he'd be better as a central midfielder than a defender
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>>75736603
>only
>in
>the
>last
>six
>years

t. started watching footie in 2014
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>>75736640
nice assumption, no argument

do you actually want to talk about football or are you just an eternally mad gyppo who resents his anglo overlords?
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>>75736348
Name 1 (one) Norwegian player that would get into the England team...ever.
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>ITT
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>>75736578
that's like saying having a tall goalkeeper is a football identity
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>>75736275
>second best team in the world
>posts a picture of a team which includes Nicky Butt, Emile Heskey, Danny Murphy and Trevor Sinclair
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>>75736687

Riise would have been a good choice during the decade we had no left wingers.
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Mother of god you're still going on about it, football's coming home, are year lads
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>>75736609
having to take jagielka and baines to the world cup instead of terry and cole was just embarrassing. what a shitshow
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>>75736549
Well I count myself lucky that i'm fucking Romanian women on the regular then.
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You forgot how you got rekt in the groups stages of the last WC

In the main 3 sports in your country
KEK
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Everything move to Allah's will.
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>>75736687
What does that have to do with my question? We don't pretend we're anything but shit.
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>>75736702
Forgot about him. Ideal indeed
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>>75736713
The English bang on about the world cup they won 50 years ago, yours bang on about tournaments you qualified for.
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>>75736696
it's not at all. if there is (or was) one good thing about england, it's producing defenders who can physically match anybody and have good distribution
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>>75736746
Neither do we.

Looked like an exaggerated put down (which it was) so I responded in kind. Except I wasn't exaggerating I guess.
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>>75736767
It wasn't exaggerated, name one.
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>>75736784
Maguire, Butland (when fit) and Zaha off the top of my head
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>>75736819
i doubt that trio would take you past Iceland
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>>75736699
they still would have reached the final if they hadnt faced brazil and they humiliated the germans the previous year at their homeground

sure their were memers like heskey, but overall it was a fantastic team
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>>75736248
>who gives a shit about international football?

people who can see their countries winning :)
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>>75736919
We're reaching some unfathomably deep tiers of delusion here
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>>75736248
How do you feel about cowman my scouser friend?
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>>75736753
Brazil:5
Italy:4
Krauts:4
Argies: 2
Engerland:1

Only the bongshits could be cucked out of the sport they created
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>>75737014
what i said was true though you caravan dwelling failure
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>>75736841
Give us the 11 best playes in the world and we still would of failed with Hodgson as manager.
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>>75737014
How to spot a millennial: the post.
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>>75736202
Who would have thought that the undisputed GOAT of English Football will be an Russian Linesman.
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>>75738671
>that moment when you realise the 1966 WC final was rigged by russian hackers

really made me think
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>>75736202
You only won that world cup because you bought it.

Nothing went wrong, it just proves that you just never deserved it
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>>75738995
I love how the Uruguayan has an opinion on bought trophies
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