UEFA to trial alternative 'ABBA' system for penalty

60% is not that much

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The new system is better.

>>75687941
So does the winner take it all?

>>75687941
Thanks for the heads up.

sounds neat

It's about time. This has been a real problem for years, and it's a very easy fix.

>>75687968
Yes it is.

>>75687968
It's still too much

>>75688148
Irony?

>>75688112
The loer has to fall.

>>75687968
Think of it like 1 in 5 shootouts are decided by the order of the old system.

>>75688104
>posting a graph
Fag!

What they should change is

> 1 extra sub allows for Extra Time.
> Away goals don't count in Extra Time as it is an Advantage to the Team who plays at Home first

>>75688211
>1 extra sub allows for Extra Time.

Isn't that already a thing?

60% of teams playing at home win.

They should make all matches in neutral stadiums.

>>75688167
No, it's a problem with turn-based games that statistically and artificially affects results. It's why tennis already uses an ABBA system.

>>75688211
> 1 extra sub allows for Extra Time.
This is already implemented in FA Cup ties.

> Away goals don't count in Extra Time as it is an Advantage to the Team who plays at Home first
Agreed.

the only way to fix penalties is to ban them and replace them with hockey like shootouts

>>75688229
I did think this was a natural progression when I first read this. Certainly hope it doesn't happen.

>>75688221
Whoops that came out arseways, 1 extra sub in Extra Time.

>>75688211
>> Away goals don't count in Extra Time as it is an Advantage to the Team who plays at Home first
upvoted

>>75688211
> Away goals don't count in Extra Time as it is an Advantage to the Team who plays at Home first

Smash and grab is part of the fun though. Away teams would constantly sit during extra time otherwise.

>>75688263
Like the old MLS ones?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRITqS6WEn0

>>75688253
>This is already implemented in FA Cup ties.
I didn't know that, should be implemented across the board.

>>75688229
Does every team that takes the first penalty also play at home?

>>75688242
Oh. I wasn't sure since a lot of people seem to be bemused by what UEFA are doing.

>>75688299
German cup started using it this season too.

>>75688267
FIFA/UEFA is a joke, they are ruining the sport for 20 years.

they will hire this retard >>75688263 too. Because clowns like Van basten already work there.

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Kind of retarded. Don't see the need for this and it's just trying to fix shit that isn't really even broken.

60%, what did they expect, full 50/50 parity?
Can't say I'm a fan of this at all. Keep the current system, it's fine.

>>75688253
>Away goals don't count in Extra Time as it is an Advantage to the Team who plays at Home first
While I like the idea it's just confusing things too much. People already don't follow the Away goal rule very well, then suddenly "oh it doesn't count because it's extra time"

>>75688321
>60%, what did they expect, full 50/50 parity?
Yes, you fucking dickhead.

>>75688112
>>75688188
Obviously a move influenced by money, money, money

>>75688263
Replace them with taking corners.

>>75688333
To be fair it still is not full 50/50 parity as sudden death starts after 5 penalties which is an odd number.
It should be 6 penalties before sudden death.

It's gonna be hard to get used to but it seems rational. I still prefer the american penalties

>>75688211
Home-away series should not even have extra time, especially in tournaments where the order is settled by a totally random draw

>>75688321
Possible signs of autism at any age:

Gets upset by minor changes in routine or surroundings

>>75688354
>Home-away series should not even have extra time,

What do you think, should they play the KOs in a neutral stadium? Just one match deciding.

>>75688321
Basic probability suggests it should be close to 50/50. 60% is too big a discrepancy to chalk down to a coincidence. You're a mong.

no extra time
penaltis are shot by all team members
that's it

>>75688321
anon look at the graph >>75688104

Notice how in the old system team B is always on the back foot and having to score the more pressure inducing equalising goals?
Notice how in the new system they have equal time being behind and they both have to score equalising goals?

>>75688104
thanks doc

>>75688377
If the series are even go straight to penalties.
A lot of people think that playing at home is an advantage, then why should only one team be allowed to have 30 more mins at home? I understand if the order is based over previous stages performance, but most cups nowadays set keys and home/away order up to a completely random draw.

>>75688389
There's nothing wrong with the system as it is, it doesn't favour one side or the other

It's because there's too many players who are so mentally fucking weak, not because the system is biased

It's the same fucking deal for both sides

5 penalties each, if tied then it's sudden death

>>75688293
exactly

>>75687941
>60 per cent chance of winning

while the change seems fine, I don't really get this reasoning. statistics may say 60% of first takers win, that doesn't mean first takers HAVE a 60% chance of winning.

the data collection they used was probably huge and can't be applied to a real-time game with actual people using their skill and nerve

>>75688466
Imagine that done by actual elite players. Shit is dank

>>75688463
I'm starting to hate NZ and Australia (and a lot of others). If they players are all equally weak it should be 50/50, not 60/40. What are you even talking about?

>>75688463
>It doesn't favour one side or the other

That isn't true though.

>>75688463
Well it clearly does favour one side, the side going first because the other team is usually playing catch up which is a mental game and naturally carries more pressure.

>>75688481
I'd have to say it's probably going to be amongst the most accurate of stats in the entire sport. Soccernomics analyses penalties more than most other types of play, because with other goals there obviously are just too many variations, whereas a penalty is about as sterile a play as it gets in the sport.

Shoot against both goals, simultaneously.

>>75688293
>keeper fouls
>a penalty kick is given
Kek.

>>75688496
It will be fucking stupid.
Every player with a brain would just out run the keeper or lob the ball.

>>75688767
> every player with a brain would
Are you saying that it would be 50/50 for everyone? Thanks

>>75688293
>That El Diablo
I'm gonna cry

>>75688808
Hey mang, you're the one that said elite players.
Also contrary to popular belief, most players that reach professionalism are actually good.

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>>75688365
No you don't get to use that on me I use that on others you cunt

>>75689124
what the FRIG is tiger tail ice cream?

Extra time, every 5 minutes a team has to remove a player. First goal wins.

>>75688481
Are you retarded?

>>75689149
I can't say I dooping know, but it's a nice image all the same

>>75689234
well explain how this data will in any way affect the next penalty shoot out you watch please

>>75687941
MAMMA MIA

HERE I GO AGAIN

>>75689159

This legitimately stupid

>>75688229
That's why Group Stages and Knock-out Rounds have both a home and away game. Leagues do the same thing, it's really only the single-legged cup ties with no neutral ground that have this problem.

fuck penalties

silver goal + infinite extra times

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>>75688104
I have a graph that proves you wrong.

>>75689234
nice response, you are wrong the original post stands

major in something other than social science next time you useless fuck

MLS penalties a GOAT. GOAT!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxhAg9BIPO8