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>Antoine Griezmann's adviser has told Telefoot that the

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>Antoine Griezmann's adviser has told Telefoot that the France international will consider offers from Manchester United and Real Madrid.
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They can't keep getting away with it.
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he's just a cholobabby, he will flop without simeone, like aguero, falcao and diego costa all flopped
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>>75478660
Yes, yes, Mancheste United, real good, yes...

HOWEVER!
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>team needs anything but attackers
>sign more attackers

kk eplel
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0 trophy : The player
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*blocks your spending spree*
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>90 million for the phoning Iago Aspas
>>75478764
Lmao, good job on those eurobucks
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>>75478702
Simeone's demanding football will prepare Antoine perfectly for Mou-ball.
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>>75478786
>le slovak stats man
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>>75478721
Man Utd do need attackers though. Zlatan is almost 36 and is done. Rooney is leaving. That only leaves Rashford and Martial who are both kids. And the finishing has been atrocious this season. IF Man Utd get Griezmann this summer he won't be the only attacker Mourinho brings in. He'll get a target man as well.
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>>75478660
Agent's always talk shit. He won't join Man U. But if he does, which is unlikely, it would confirm Man U's status as a tinpot money club and I'd look forward to them opnly being mad fun for it.
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>>75478788
What's a "Mou-ball"? Drawing to West Brom at home?
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>>75478702
Falcao? You mean the man who will win the Champions league before Patético de Madrid?
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>>75478829
>it would confirm Man U's status as a tinpot money club
>confirm
Haven't you been paying attention lately?
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Can't wait to see Pogba play next season with some players that can actually finish. We'll see a return to his Juve form.
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In other words:
>Antoine Griezmann is negotiating for a new contract
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>>75478786
hey he hasn't gone to yanaited yet don't bully him
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>>75478867
It's not like Poobag makes any key passes for finishers to tap in though, is it.
>return to his Juve form
Except he's arguably performing better now than he did at Juve, fewer goals or assists but instead getting dispossed 25 times a match he's settled at about a dozen. Believe it or not, he actually makes MORE key passes now than he managed in Italy.
How the fuck did this kind of player end up costing 105 million you might ask? Well here you are, a clueless customer believing he's useful and deluded into believing Manure can bring over ""elite"" players. Mission accomplished by Woodward.
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>>75478895
Just a precaution kek
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>>75478660
Might as well just give us the trophy after we sign Griezmann
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>>75478722
Yeah because he's not joined United yet. Even when Man Utd are having a bad season they usually win a trophy.
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Can't wait for him to get exposed in the EPL just like Martial, Pogba, Di Maria, and Ibrahimovic did.
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>>75479696
Intradesting
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>>75479678
No one forced Man U to buy those players. Man U just have a terrible scouting network. Anyone could see that Pogba wasn't worth what what was paid for him, and it was dumb as fuck to pay 90 million for Monaco's 6th best player who hadn't done shit yet.
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>>75479644
>Minnie Mouse's Sunday Cup
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>>75479850
Pogba will still be a good player for Man Utd despite his price tag. They got a very good player for the next 8 or 9 years. Money doesn't really matter to Man Utd anymore so expect to see more "overpaying" for good players this summer.
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New customer here. What should my first purchase be? Which jersey should I buy?
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>>75480089
Do you really need to ask?
>>75480077
>h-he'll come good eventually la
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>>75479678
Martial will be a great player. He's just fucking around at the moment.
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>>75478786
>Celta that actually attacks
Vs
>Park the bus FC

No shit his attacking stats suck.
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>>75480186
>H-he's just fucking around while being paid as much as Alexis Sanchez now, but he'll get good surely
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>>75478855
Literally carried by the 18 year old reincarnation of R9.
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Why would he leave a club that constantly fights in semis of the champions to move to a club that plays europa league?

Is he tired of losing to barcelona and madrid? And i thought he was the future of france lol
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one greasman pls

can u supersize that for me?
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>>75478987
Playing in the Juventus league did not prepare him for a real league.
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they need him to unlock pogba's potential
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>>75480196
>Atletico scored 12 goals more and created 25% more chances than Celta, averaging 33% more shots per game
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>>75480196
>>75480255
Mate what are you doing?
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>>75480241
you don't get your own emoji by staying at athletico
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>>75480241
Griezmann will take Man Utd to another level, who will be playing CL football next season.
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>>75480275
Fuck. Took the bait didn't I?
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>>75480241
It's entirely possible though, maybe he's tired of being cucked constantly and gave up on highest ambitions, so he'll just triple his contract while drawing to Hull or Anderlecht at home. Comfy enough, disregarding the fact he'll have to live in Manchester
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>>75478660
PLEASE COME TO MAN UTD
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>>75480297
Topkekkkers
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>>75479850
I'm a Man Utd fan and I rate Pogba.

And no-one knows what anyone is worth anymore. People sound like old grandpas saying when I was a boy a chocolate bar cost a shilling etc.
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>>75480077
>his price tag
His price tag won't seem shit in 10 years time, just like with Ferdinand.
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>>75480241
the whole "players want to play at the best club" meme is so overrated

it's been shown time and time again that players will nearly always take a step down in team quality if you pay then more

wages are much more attractive to a footballer than trophies
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>>75480255
Did you read the post you're replying to? Pogba had more assists and goals than he does now because he had far superior teammates all around, but besides those two stats his individual performances improved slightly since returning to England. What you've seen in last 9 months is prime Pogba, as hard to believe as it might be.
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The price tag makes me feel bad for him desu, he didn't ask for it. And now he's the one that's supposed to live up to those expectations. Ofcourse he doesn't help himself with all the marketing gimmicks, but I still feel sorry for him
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>>75480338
>I'm a Man Utd fan and I rate Pogba
Who could have guessed
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greaseman its too fragile for epl desu. he will flop
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>Slovak is already unironically obsessing over greizmann.

I'm actually surprised there's room in his head for someone other than pogba and his BBC.
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>>75480401
Like Aguero and a lot of other small players?
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>>75480386
That's an interesting angle, he doesn't seem like the smartest lad around so he probably had no idea what's comming. Juve board on the hand who undoubtedly encouraged him to sign the Manure deal knew very well he was going to flop and threw him under the bus for money. Oh well
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Just imagine the Slovak when the EPL announced (Twitter, Fb, website, etc) that Pogba was the best passer this season. Hell he will be rated as one of the Top Midfielders this year, despite his retarded stats. Any non-autistic fuck can see pogba is the real deal and is making a huge difference to the team.

If he had friends or family I'd be concerned for their safety.
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>>75480452
>Y-you miss him so BADLY h-ahaha
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>>75480541
>H-he'll come good eventually la
>Next season for sure
>I mean he's quite d-decent already isn't he
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>>75480466
yes
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>>75480571
>keep a player in the first team for 4 years
>he's shit la
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>>75480571

Best passer in the EPL. Created the most chanced in the EPL.
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>>75478702

>aguero
>flopped

ok my white friend
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>>75480596
A luxury player who isn't the primary creative outlet or a defensive hard worker either, and chips in the occassional blooter while doing tricks in his own half to post on Youtube and Twitter? A good fit for totally dominant Juve team in league matches, not like he could have been relied on to make difference in CL. Now that there's Pjanic who put in better performances against Barcelona than Pogba did against Anderlecht, Ok Rostov or West Brom, the memory of >pogba being a regular starter is a bizarre one.
It's just >goal.com, but this one particular article explains simply enough for pakis to understand how Juve upgraded their midfield by selling Pogbert...while making a 70 mil profit kek
http://www.goal.com/en/news/8/main/2017/04/23/34840442/pjanic-has-proved-to-be-an-upgrade-on-pogba-and-at-a-73m
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>>75480668
>goal.com
That site is about the same level as transfer speculation from The Sun
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>>75480613
Source? Because looking at the statistics, both claims seem to be wrong?
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>>75480679
That's why I put meme arrows in front of the title, but go ahead and try to disprove anything written in that piece. When even British "journalists" are starting to realize Pogba is a complete fraud, you know he's exposed thoroughly.
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>>75480682
Next year la
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>greaseman next to marshal and rashford

Literally who can stop us? Jesus Christ it's almost unfair on everyone else
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dumb frogposter
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>that will be 100 mil, tax, 40 goals bonuses, and agent fees
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>>75480783
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>>75480737
maybe United will actually have more of an attacking thrust without out le-hold-up-the-ball-and-turn-with-big-torn-ligaments-man but then again, where would Mikhi fit in with that?
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>>75480737

Slovak will have some autistic stats that say that would be a bad front three.

KEK
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>>75480714
Of course
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>>75480737
You were warned, EPL...
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>>75480842
BASED

THE BASED SLOVAK IS HERE GUYS

CODE RED. ALL CUSTOMERS EVACUATE THREAD ASAP. THIS IS NOT A DRILL
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>>75480825

--De Gea-
Valencia-Bailley-GhostofRojo(new CB)-New LB
--Hererra--Pogba--
--Mikhi--
Greizmann-Rashford-Martial

Your EPL champions of 2018.
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>canadian manure customers

this is like a living stereotype. u cant make this shit up
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>>75480894
me like. Also please get better mr. Rojo. Bailley needs your Argie Diamond crusted neck.
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>>75480885
Missed the legendary trashing of fearsome Burnley sadly, I'm sure customers had a blast celebrating this victory. How did the #Pogboom do? Bossing the midfield all by himself as usual?
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>>75480944
he left with what looks like pulled hamstring. Hope he is fit for City.
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>>75480915
He's just baiting the autist.
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>>75480894
Shaw can play at LB. The other signings should be Belotti, Dier and Keane so it lines up like this:

DDG
Valencia Bailly Rojo/Keane Shaw
Dier/Herrera Pogba
Griezmann Mkhitaryan Martial
Rashford/Belotti

Give a new contract to Ibra on lower wages and he can come back in the last few months of next season and give the team something new.
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>>75480894
>>75480928
------------------De Gea----
--------Bailly---Ramos----Jones
Dybala--Pogba---Verratti---Martial
--Griezmann--Lukaku---Rashford

Literally 34 wins and 4 draws. 100+ goal difference
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>>75480985
itll tie us over for when neymar and messi turn up in january

Feel bad for jose how little we are investing though


GGMU BUILT NOT BOUGHT
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>greaseman for 85m
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH OH GOD AHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA ROFL LMAO
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>>75480955
Shiiieet
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>>75480984
bonucci is pretty much confirmed
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>>75481004
First don't follow, la
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>>75480985

>3-4-3

Found the virgin millennial.
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>>75480984

We can do better than keane. And I'm not sold on Dier.

But this team is miles better than what Jose started with.
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>>75480985

>Jones

Now I know you're trolling.
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>>75481152
>>75481204
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>>75480304
>who will be playing CL football next season
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>>75481176
Keane is an England international, senpai. Who would you suggest instead?

And i'm not sure why everyone is down on Dier. People didn't like Carrick when he came around either. Is it just the money they think Man Utd will have to pay?
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>>75481248
Carrick was far better than Dier is.
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>le best passer in the league
>only just overtook Henderson
>injured still has games to play to get that mostly meaningless stat
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Why do customers on here actually rate Greaseman? He has 16 goals in 30 games playing against part-time farmers every week, in one of the strongest teams in the league.
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ESTONIA!!!!!!
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>>75481322
Memes aside, Pogba is 12th in completed passes per 90 minutes. 38 (thirty-eighth) in making the crucial ones
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>>75481390
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>>75481447
he said per minute dude
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>>75481447
>per 90 minutes
Most players actually rotate, >mouyes can't take Pogba off or let alone bench him because of teenage ethnic fanbase. This is Manure Corp. we're discussing, not a real football club anymore.
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>>75478786
Sorry for asking but what website is this?
(Image search turns up nothing)
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>>75481508
Source for pogba's key chances created stats?
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>>75481511
whoscored
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>>75481511
Squawka
>>75481529
>unironically worse at making useful passes than the non-dabbing Pogba at Spurs
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>>75481635
what is the 1.85 value representing?
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>>75481635

>compared to someone with 429 mins
>less than 5 games
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>>75481635
Why do you hate Pogba so much? Get a life you freak
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>>75481635
KEK
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>>75481341

Althetico is one of the most defensive teams in the world. All counter. I'm shocked they have 16 goals total.

he's creative as fuck and involved in everything athletico does offensively.
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>>75481341
Good stats for a no10.
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>>75481669

He actually loved him so much that when Pogba left Juv it mentally broke him.

The slovak is a sad shell of a man-child now.
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>>75481644
Key passes per match
>>75481661
Lets restrict it to players who made 20 starting appearances at least then, and #Pogboom moves up to staggering... 21st position
>>75481669
*dabs*
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Just wait until next season. #Pogback.
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Why would Atletico sell Griezmann when they have a transfer ban? Torres, Gameiro, and Correa can't possibly make them compete with Real and Barcelona.
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>>75481729
>Yeah cry more you sad little man, y-you miss him so much but he BOSSES the midfield for us now
Seriously now, all things considered a Juve fan should kind of feel sorry for Poobag because of >>75480535 . Then again he signed for fucking Manure, so it's only fair to laugh at him.
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>>75481733

key passes are only key passes when it ends in _____

answer that and you'll see why he's low in that ONE stat.

The reality is that Pogba is easily a top 5 (maybe 3) midfielder in the EPL this year and you can't handle it.

Well worth the price tag.
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Zlatan's out, lets put the Griezely bear in front with the based black teens of the future.
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>>75478786
>per 90 metrics
t. Hillary
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>>75481780
>literally having no idea what key passes are
>the utter state of leaf customers
What you're thinking of are chances created, or perhaps assists. Key passes don't necessarily mean goalscoring opportunities and don't depend on the receiver at all. They're the best measure of playmaker's quality with emphasis on decision making and technique. Pogba's technique is impressive, that has to be said, but inside his dyed head there's a Balotelli brain. Hopelessly ill-suited for a role where intelligence and vision are crucial
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>>75482081
If someone passes to a player and he shoots from 40 yards, is it a 'key pass'?
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>>75481635
try per games desu, per 90 mins is only representative for girls and deluded north hungarians
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>>75478786

>Invalidating your snarky reply within the first stat of your image

Well done on BTFOing yourself
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>>75482188
His point is that they're basically the same
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>>75478660
grizemann and mbappé will bench oldnaldo
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>>75482123
Depends on the situation, if it's a long through ball where the receiver could have dribbled forward and then attempt a shot but instead does the shit you described for whatever reason then yeah it's a key pass. Or it could be a smart short through ball past high pressing defence and again, it's a key pass.
Not like any of that concerns Pogba, he doesn't do key passing :^)
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>>75482127
That's hugely unfair to players who are substitutes, like Fabregas. He has plenty of appearances technically, but perhaps less than half of playing time of someone like Poobag who isn't allowed to leave the pitch for marketing reasons.
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>>75482188
>>75482210
Exactly
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*dabs*
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>Telefoot

NOT
EVEN
ONCE
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>>75478707
Great post
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>>75478707
Im not sure what you are saying
But I'm sure he would never go to porto ahah
Pinto da costa spends to much corrupting the referees
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>>75482401
That's not real is it?
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>>75482401
Slovak BTFO.
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>>75482401
Appreciating the "per game" option, as well as the choice of stats. I mean headed goals and aerial duels is exactly what Pogbert was bought for, not like they had Fellaini already!
>Pjanic vs. Barcelona #1
>Assist, 3 key passes, 3 chances created, 2 tackles and 2 interceptions
>Pjanic vs. Barcelona #2
>3 key passes, 2 chances created, 8 (eight) tackles and 5 (five) interceptions
>Poobag vs Burnley
>1 key pass, 0 chances created, 1 tackle, 1 interception
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>>75482748

Sorry
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>>75482827
*heads the ball*
*makes a clearance*
*suffers a foul*
*makes a short pass*
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>>75482868

>*Discounts stats that you posted*
>>75478786
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>>75482887
Point out the headers, clearances, total passes or forward passes in the chart I posted there please?
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>only MY stats are relevant REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>75482537
Pro Bono to fulfill promises made to his gramps
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>>75483356
>L-look after a year of bullying bullied by facts I finally figured out how Squawka works and can prove Pogba makes more headers than five foot tall Pjanic
>ABUs BTFO
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>>75482401

Get fucking REKT slav
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>>75483356

Bwhahahhahahahhahahhahahahhahahahhaha

>the state of slovakia
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>>75483535
>I'm a real playmaker guise look
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>>75478660
If I was Greaseman, I would be insulted that people keep linking me to united
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>>75483561
*wins a duel*
*takes shot*
*misses*
*commits a foul*
*dabs*
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>>75483561

>Ignores total score
>>75482827
Don't worry i've got you
>Pogba 33.45
>Pjanic: 30.67

You realize there's more to being a CM than scoring against bankrupt italian teams
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>>75483561

All Juv. players have padded stats from a shit league. completely irrelevant comparison.
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>>75483646

I love you.
>no homo
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>marquinhos, keane, mbappe, greizmann, bale

just give us the trebell
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>>75478660
De Gea

Valencia-----Baily-----Rojo-----Shaw

Hererra-----Pogba

Mkhitaryan

Griezmann-----Rashford-----Martial


Literally give them the league right now. It's fucking over. CL semi final minimum within two years.
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>>75483520
I'm not the anon that posted those stats. I just think it's funny that you get all upset when someone else uses squaka or whoscored.

>look at MY stats, no don't look at those stats, STOP looking at them REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE *posts irrelevant pic of some asian Utd fan*
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>>75482401
undermining all the slovak banter from the season
>delet
>reee.jpg
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dier in place of pogba, pogba and mkhi in front of dier and herrera, griezmann and rashford upfront
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>>75480077
Money will start mattering to Man U again if they fail to win anything ever despite spending hundreds of millions every offseason
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>>75483554
that's not even a legit country mate, what did you expect?
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>>75483578
Beckham was his idol. He dreams of the United #7 shirt every night before bed. He prays to his David Beckham poster that one day he'll play for Manchester United.
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>>75483768
Na he'll be back. I wanted him sold last season when he was p[laying at left back, but he's been a monster this season, in his actual correct position.
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>>75483597
Lmao
>>75483646
Pjanic's total score plummeted after he struggled to adapt to 4-2-3-1 initially, pic related is comparison made at the time he played the Pogba role in 3-5-2 or 4-3-1-2 before the formation switch. But now he's found his ground and is excellent, compare how he's done in that position against Barcelona and Poobag being useless against Burnley like always --> >>75482748
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>>75483658
Is that why Poobag improved since leaving Serie A? --> >>75478987
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>>75483792
Unironically this. He's going to be at united next season and we all know it. He really wants to play alongside pogba at club level also.
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>>75483762
>>75483773
It's a fun site to use indeed
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>>75483781
Sadly it won't. All the paki bandwagoners buy their merchandise like sheep (goes for all the big european clubs tbqh). They will be fine for a decade at least. maybe more. And they will win 1-2 trophies even if they are shit. And that's kind of enough for the supporters to stay. And meme players attract the youth, so signings like Pogba, Ibra, Tielemans and Griezmann are totally worth it in the long run. Fifa and FM meme players to get the youth. And oh an Asian would be useful, to keep the yellow guys at bay as well

>>75483768
He'll be back for the champions league group matches. He has a nice big Samsung TV, he'll enjoy them.
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>>75483792
Why not the 23 shirt at Real Madrid?
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>>75483797
Poor panic having to adapt to one new formation in one of the most settled teams in Europe, if only he could have a different set of team mates and tactical responsibilities every match like Pogba
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>>75483797
>b-b-but he used to be good I swear desu
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>>75483797
>show per 90 metrics
>Pjanic 1000m
>Pogba 3000m
that would mean that for each equal or similar value, Pogba is literally 3 times better (3x the expected production) than Pjanic, on that stat.

I'm starting to like the slovakian website. good stuff there.
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>>75483797

>14 games vs 35
>A 27 y/o in the prime of his career and played in italy for years beforehand vs a teenager who just joined

All that consider that 2nd season Pogba is still quite close to Pjanic so thats pretty fucking impressive
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>>75483841
I'm just sad that the Hungarian first league is not yet on their radar. It would be fun to compare pogboom to all the free-lancers.
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>>75483864
23 at Real was a compromise for Beckham. I'm sure those that managed his brand weren't happy about it.

Even Ronaldo had to wait his turn for the #7.
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>when you post cherry picked stats too often that they start using the same bullshit tactic against you

LEL
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>>75483873
He's had great impact when the team WAS actually settled, contributing far more than Pogba did in the same role. And he's adapted again now to 4-2-3-1, surely you watched the Barcelona matches
>>75483874
Another thing to consider is that Pjanic tends to sit out the easy matches in Serie A like the recent trashing of Genoa where he could easily statpad. But Allegri is a tactical manager and rotates the side, so players are rested and focused on crucial fixtures. Imagine >mouyes dropping Poobag against some relegation shitters, he would get a call from Adidas kindly reminding him who actually pays for these transfer flops
>>75483877
Lmao it's the >mouyesbro, long time no see
>>75483879
It was his fourth season, and if you actually look at the stats he isn't nowhere near close. And he was 22/23 with couple of years of experience in Italy, not an academy teenager. It was the season where Poobag was unfortunately supposed to lead the midfield with Marchisio and Khedira injured. Do you know how it ended up? 14th by matchweek 7, 4th by Christmas. Thanks, Paul. Luckily the midfielders came back and Dybala became elite to save Juve.
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>>75483895
Would he dominate the Nemzeti Bajnokság? I'm not convinced for some reason
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this is the most autistic thread i've seen in a while
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>>75483956
>-52
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>>75484013
sup
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>spending literally 6 hours straight spamming a thread with walls of text and pics of irrelevant stats about something you claim to hate, being baited over and over again
>doing this literally every day of your life
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>>75483797

>Prime Pjanic is barely better and arugably less rounded than a 22 y/o pogba

Really makes you think
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>>75481508
>Manure Corp
>Whilst literally being a customer at Jeep FC
Kek
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Who is the 5th best player, according to this website?

http://www.squawka.com/football-player-rankings
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>>75484070
>s-stop bullying us
>mfw
>>75484081
Possession score is the key there, look at the dumbass actually having NEGATIVE value, you can't even imagine how wasteful he was. Well-rounded is not an argument, winning duels for example regulary is not Pjanic's duty, and when he's tasked to do so (Barcelona) he won 8 tackles. Key passes and chances created are what Pjanic does, and there's a significant difference there as well. Once again emphasising that Pjanic plays all the important matches in league while often sitting out against complete shitters, look at their playtimes. Poobag never misses the opportunity to potentially statpad against Bournemouth, except he never does.
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>>75484164
Depends on how you set the appearances threshold. With reasonable value like 15+ it's Fabregas.
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>>75484144
*dabs globally*
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>>75484164

lel, switch it to top 5 european leagues for a real laugh.
>Marek Hamsik with his 11 goals and 7 assists in serie a is now the 4th best player in the world
I'm under the impression that the Slovak works for squaka now
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>>75484205
Seems like it is an ex-Juventus player called Pogba
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>>75478702
bad b8 m8
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>>75484224
Why are you pretending I haven't explained to you 4 (four) times now how the playtimes and "per 90 minutes" values work? I'm refusing to believe there are 4 different Brazilians being butthurt about Pogba flopping, or that there's one so slow that he's unable to grasp it.
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>>75484223
Is Hamšík the 4th best player in Europe? Lmao, "yes"
Does he shit all over Pogba? Not much of an achievement
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>>75484205
>depends on how you manipulate the data

Fixed that for you.
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>>75484321

>A player who plays just of the striker has more impressive attacking stats than a central midfielder

Why even bother making that
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Aww frick, I sure am tired of 6th place
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>>75484261
I'm sure you didn't select that because this is the statistic that makes Pogba look the worse. But looking at the way you did, Pogba appears in position 13.
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>>75484321

Actually needing to actively cherrypick stats to make pogba look bad is only weaking your stance on him being bad desu
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>>75484387
>Juventus below Man U
No wonder the slovak is SEETHING over #pogboom
>I r-really h-hate Manure and Poogba
>If y-you call me out on it I-I'll deflect on y-you h-ha that'll make you s-sorry!
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>>75484387
>9 teams Atletico has no issue with
>the 1 team they do is in 8th
site sucks dick
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>>75484371
Didn't Poobag play good part of the season as CM in 4-3-3? Because that's exactly what Hamšík does
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>Slovak when Pogboom scores the game winning goal against Slovakia in the 2018 WC
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>>75484355
>>75484396
>l-lets just disregard the fact that Poobag never leaves the pitch while quality players like Fabregas rotate, that sure makes him look better
lel'd
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>>75484487
He probably supports Italy.
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>>75484424
They're both playmakers, and I chose all the creative categories and stats relevant for offensive-minded midfielders.
>b-but #pogboom is a box-to-box
Sure, with none of the box-to-box activity to show for it lmao
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>7 (seven) hours
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>>75484487
>being so PTSD'd you come up with fantasy scenarios
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>>75484457

If I remember right united played 442 at the start of the season and only really start playing 433 around the start of the year where pogba isn't really attacing that much
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>>75484387
>mouyes
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>>75484552
>>being so PTSD'd
There you go again, deflect everything from yourself into others
>Y-you're so P-PTSD la... haha!
The only sound who sounds butthurt is you, which is why you spend every day thinking about pogba, amassing a sizeable collection of pictures of him, gifs of him, and screenshots of his stats and immediately beeline for every manure and poogba thread on /sp/ to PogbaPost for hours every day.
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>>75484572
Started with 4-2-3-1 where Poobag was actually tried out as CAM a couple of times (and failed, naturally), they've switched to 4-3-3 around November or early December I believe. Point is that his only so-called contribution is offensive, he has far more fouls than successful tackles and doesn't close down opposition at all. A false midfielder, one could say
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Why are customers unable to just accept that Pogba wasn't worth it? Everyone knows it, you know it, if you say so nothing bad will happen or anything. Just accept it.
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>>75484621
It's all baitposting to get the Slovakian Jewve customer to autistically PogbaPost, he doesn't realise we're all laughing at both him and Pogba
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>>75484596
Yeah I like to post about Pogba and Manure kek. (You) on the other hand post about fellow Anon who says mean things on obscure imageboard, think about that for a minute.
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>>75484642
>He thinks I even care about Poogba
I like to laugh at >mouyes and the dabbing henderson as much as the next man, but you autistically pogbapost daily and it's pretty sad
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good thread lads
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>>75484635
>W-we're just pretending to support this club and defend their star purchase
>Lololo what a blast it is seeing someone point out flaws in Pogba's play and Manure's transfer policy
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>>75484614

No he wasn't there was maybe like two matches where he was an AM but failed because it isn't his position

>>75484621

I can't defend the price they paid for him or the whole fuck around fergie had selling him but he's not a bad player.
That being said if he's contributed £80m more than Di Maria ever did so it doesn't bother me, on top of the fact I don't have to pay his wages
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>>75484662
>I was merely pretending to be a customer
Is this what we've come to?
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>>75484671
>immediately deflects off himself
>if y-you m-make fun of me it's cause you love Manure and Pogba!
Kek
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>>75484642
a better comparison would be if he saved hundreds of pictures of you, posted in every juventus thread about you and spent up to 10 hours a day posting about you
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>>75484688
I support a team in the Championship, which is also my hometown team. Why would I be a customer of Manure?
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>>75484685
Yeah I said a couple of times, never implied he regulary played as CAM. Looking it up, it's 4 times but it doesn't matter. At this point he's already played more matches as offensive CM in 4-3-3 than in 4-2-3-1, so I don't see why he shouldn't be compared to Hamšík who is deployed there as well.
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>>75484621
This was a lighthearted Griezmann thread once upon a time.
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>>75484691
>>75484705
Sure let me just *blogpost* about myself instead of discussing the topic. Is this a Stockholm Syndrome or something? Getting bullied so hard you're more interested in ABU Anon than Manure itself?
>>75484710
Doesn't matter what team you support, I'm not a fan of any EPL club either. Anyone is free to discuss Manure and their players, customers are just upset their r/reddevils safespace is disrupted.
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>>75484621
I hope they don't, who would we funpost about if they give up on Poobag altogether? He's by far the mememiest player out there now.
If you don't count Messi or Ronaldo of course, but they're good.
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>>75484429

>juventus is in semi-finals of Champions League
>best defense in Europe
>have replaced #Pogboom more than adequately
>have bought a solid striker along with a replacement
>customers still care only about money
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>>75484871
>It's an American customer episode
Why don't you support a local team like the Miami Crocdiles or the Tallahassee Redskin Warriors?
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Pogba, despite not being great, has still been the best midfielder in the league this season. Of the real midfielders that is, not the "midfielders" like Alli that spend all game in the box.
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>>75484900

What's wrong Rasheed? No substantial argument to make?
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>>75484900
episode of

>britbong addresses flag
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>>75484957
>Le rasheed meme from a country that's 50% white
Your post is correct, but if you couldn't tell I was being sarcastic in the post you originally replied to.
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>>75484934

>Who is Kante
>Who is Dembele

Brits know even less than Americans. No wonder why your country is a joke when it comes to soccer.
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>>75484857
do you dream about pogba?
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>>75484871
United are clearly the superior team though, why else would The Paul choose to transfer?
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>>75485021
>le run around a lot memesters
not real midfielders

they don't have the creative ability that pogba has to truly command a midfield
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>>75478660
Slovakia thread

fuck.yes. only good thing about neo /sp/
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>>75485010

>I-I was only joking guys!

Nice damage control, Rasheed
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>>75485059
it's funny when britbongs talk about football

keep going
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>>75485078
Fuck bro, I guess you truly won the debate.
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>>75485059
>truly command a midfield
Oh so that's what Pogba does? Because one could argue that Dembele and Kante have amazing workrate, cover the ground, bully opponents and pass it to creative players (Azzah, Eriksen respectively) and ACTUAL creative players (those above, or De Bruyne) well... create. A wise man said - "Pogba's problem is that he's too good everything"
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The 2020/2021 season has ended in my FM save and Mourinho's Man Utd won the septuple

These are the major transfers they had up until then

Nelson Semedo - 27.5 Million
Jairo Riedewald - 40.5 Million
Fred - 44.5 Million
Gelson Martins - 41.5 Million
Marko Pjaca - 6.25 Million
Romelu Lukaku - 58 Million
Jose Gimenez - 63 Million
Diogo Jota - 37 Million
Virgil van Dijk - 34.5 Million
Florin Andone - 49.5 Million
Sergi Roberto - 25 Million
Julian Brandt - 52 Million
Diego Costa - 8.75 Million

The total adds up to 488 Million
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>>75485156

He's the box to box attacking deep lying playmaker
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>>75485076
>Mfw i thought the golden age of ABU would be over when they sacked van laal

>instead we get mouyes, poobag and the slovak

ABU is truly the master race
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>>75485076
If you read the thread you'll find out that actually there are no Manure customers on /sp/, they are all pretending to support them ironically to bait people into shitposting about them.
The more you know...
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>>75485162
>mfw won the EPL with Bournemouth in first season while using exclusively English players
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>>75485021
Please, please don't judge us based on deluded customers.

It isn't fair.
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>>75485174
Easily the most cerebral player out there
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>>75485187
>theyre so embarrassed about their club they deny supporting it and only can talk about it ironically.

>this team used to be one of the best in the world

the life of a customer is a tough one
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>>75485181
Imagine, just imagine if Manure actually manage to choke in the EL. Customers will follow Flip's example and leave this board for good
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Hi, is this /trans/?
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>>75485156
>have amazing workrate, cover the ground, bully opponents and pass it to creative players

funny way to say run around a lot and pass 5 yards

you are literally SEETHING that pogba could easily do everything those brainless jobbers could do half asleep. heis role is far more important and technical than fucking kante lmao

just fucking wait until pog has someone on his level worthy of passing to
prepare your noose for next season jeep boy you'll need it
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>>75485240

I love you Slovak bro but your language looks weird
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>>75485250
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>>75485303
What are the Turin Jeeps going to do? Drown themselves in the Champions League trophy? Enjoy the EL while you can
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>>75485284
/manure/ actually, but there's no shortage of memes here
>>75485306
Love you too Ameribro, not sure whether you mean the Slovak in general (it's a drunk language) or the state of my posting now (I'm drunk)
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>>75485378
From which part of Juventus are you, mate?
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>>75485378
Slovak in general. I've never seen it.
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>>75485378
>drunk on 2am on a monday night

what went wrong?
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>>75485303
This is an interesting opinion, could you elaborate on the "Pogba role" a bit? I mean it's completely understandable he doesn't bother with such lowly tasks such as running or tackling, but what's the reason behind the creative impotence? Is he saving himself for a glorious midfield-maestro assisting orchestra in EL final?
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>>75485336
What's a CL trophy good for when there's no one to dab with it?
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>>75485391
FIAT piazza #21, you?
>>75485398
Trequartista is Trojštvrtník, that's pretty much all you need to know
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>>75485448
2 of the 3 dabsketeers are still left there Sergej
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>>75485481
And Chielinni just got his masters at Dab University, so I wouldn't worry too much
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>>75485481
>>75485499
Is that a dabbing Boipucci on the right? Very rare!
>mfw they dab with Championegle Owl
Pogbert on suicide watch
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>>75478862
>ywnb Mino Raiola
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>>75485162

That Lukaku one will probably happen desu
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So what position will United finish in next season lads? Also, the current six sides?
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Sometimes I wish I supported another club. Not because I'm a glory hunting customer, and i do also support my local club even though they're bad, but because it's impossible to have a decent discussion about United because of people like the Slovak. No other club has to deal with this except for Real Madrid maybe and maybe Barca.

Just support your own damn club and stop showing up at every thread of one you don't like to turn the conversation to bashing.
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>>75478660
>not 'considering' $100-million offers from major European clubs

come, on.
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>>75485680

http://store.manutd.com/stores/manutd/us

Remember, every dollar matters!
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>>75485680
>Just support your own damn club
>American Manure customer

What did he mean by this
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>>75486660
I mean I wish he and others could focus on just being fans of their own clubs instead of trying to turn every thread into a United Hate thread. Maybe for some of you it's funny, but it kills any actual discussion since any talk about the club itself turns into spamming of customer memes.
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>already signed the check for Morata, Mbappe, Belotti, Dier, Varane, Griezmann

http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2017/04/25/31856602/transfer-news-the-latest-rumours-from-man-utd-chelsea

Looks like next year is gonna be >our year la
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>8 straight hours

Symptoms of Aspergers
>Dislike any changes in routines.
>Be unable to recognize subtle differences in speech tone, pitch, and accent that alter the meaning of others' speech. So your child may not understand a joke or may take a sarcastic comment literally. And his or her speech may be flat and hard to understand because it lacks tone, pitch, and accent.
>Talk a lot, usually about a favorite subject. One-sided conversations are common. Internal thoughts are often verbalized.
>Be preoccupied with only one or few interests, which he or she may be very knowledgeable about. Many children with Asperger's syndrome are overly interested in parts of a whole or in unusual activities, such as designing houses, drawing highly detailed scenes, or studying astronomy. They may show an unusual interest in certain topics such as snakes, names of stars, or dinosaurs.
>coexisting conditions include Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
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>>75480196
Never try to bring up stats vs Statman Slovak. You WILL be BTFO
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>>75482537
is this ironic shitposting or are you coming straight from Reddit?

>ahah bribing the refs amirite guys
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>>75478660
>Real Madrid

Almost believed you for a second.
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>>75482127
Explain why per game is better than per 90 mins.
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>>75491142
because if you compare one player that plays whole matches to another one that only play half matches using the 90m metric and they have similar values you might think they did the same, even though the first did twice as much.
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>>75484371
Hamsik plays in a 3 man midifield tho
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>>75482917
is that mario balotelli
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>>75491337

He's an attacking midfielder who has basically no defensive responsibilty in a weaker league
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>>75480985
>Dybala & Martial at WB's
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>>75484039
probably he would, we only have meme teams, memed by the goverment themselves. It is like they decide whose team has to win it that given year.

And without good players to play together with he alone would suffer to be good. Fellaini on the other hand would be a GOAT here.
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>>75491414
You new mate?
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>>75478660
Atlético needs to break the chinese bank and become a world club once and for all

for the love of god don't let him go
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>>75484552
yeah like Slovakia qualifying to the WC
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>>75478855
Not on Dybalamask's watch!
>>75480217
>of R9
U wut m9? You mean Henry.
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>>75485021
>muh Kante
literally destoryed by Fellaini. Are you even trying?
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Nice daily comedy thread
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>>75485277
de he really leave? That's pretty sad, I loved the flip threads back in the time
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Is there anyone as sad as the Slovak to dedicate his day to complain about a dabbing football palyer on a Jamaican bob-sleighing imageboard?

Just scrolling through the thread I see nothing but "stats".

What the hell do you have against Pogba?
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>mfw someone praises poogdab near me
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>>75485399
being an ABU I suppose is like brain damage

>>75491142
see >>75491273
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>>75491507
he fucked his wife
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>destoryed by Fellaini
Holy shit this customer delusion
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>>75478862
I still can't understand how brits can be this retarded.
Just another masterpiece by Marotta.

We will gladly sell Dybabla to Man U in 3 years after we'll win 2 CL and 8 Scudetti for 200M.
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>>75490980
>dislike any changes in routine
>95% of humans live their day to day life in a locked routine

>they may show unusual interest in certain topics such as ... dinosaurs
>every kid in the world loved dinosaurs 20 years ago

nice post lad
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>>75490980
Amazing. The Slovak has dedicated 8 hours of his life to post about Pogba.

I don't even recall the flip to be that bad. I only remember him being a die hard United fan during the games
>>
haha grease man lol
>>
>Go into thread looking to meme
>Slovak poster has been talking about Pogba for 4 HOURS
Jesus Dabbing Christ
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>>75491592
Incorrect my man. 8 hours he's dedicated to talk about Pogba.

You should know by now that anything about United = Slovak will be here
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>>75480089
Buy Juventus jersey before the new horrible logo will be used.
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>>75480241
Why did Pogba move to ManU from Juve?
Money.
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>>75491622
Why has anyone joined Juve other clubs? Money.
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Isco James and Griezmann are too good for manure tbqh
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>>75491542
Feeling to insecure to admit that notevendabbing belgian elbowgod destroyed the overhyped running around black Scott Parker?
>drunk Poland
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>>75480542
>>75480571
Just stop already.
We don't have a reason to miss him, actually we have 100k good reasons to not miss him.
Pobga IS good, he simply isn't a player that moves the balance of and decides a game. ManU is in EP, we're in CL and we can buy Tolisso and Mbappe and be successfull in the next 10 years.

tl;dr: Juve has no reason to miss Pogba despite him being a very good player.

t. fellow juvefag
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>>75491663
>buy Mbappe
no
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>>75491663
>Mbappe
Barca want him. Noone gets chosen over Barca.
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>>75491561
t. aspie
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>>75491683
Barça is a place for good players yet not good enough to be picked by Real Madrid
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>>75491710
Sorry Kiddo but everyone wants to play with Messi and join his legend.
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>>75491683
also real wants him
>>75491663
>mbappe
nope he's going to Madrid
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>>75482401
You forgot the part where we got 100M and are still winning the league and are in the CL semis with the prospect to win it, while ManU is in EL and won't even qualify for the CL next season.

Why are statisticfags so retarded? They will choose to ignore reality to trust stats with a void meaning. I would expect that from retarded Ameridumbs who don't uderstand anything about sport, not from a brit.

Having said that, as I already explained, Pogba is a very good player.
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>>75491710
>who is Neymar?
>>
>>75491721
>wasting the money on a fat, balding 29 year old that was chased out of a proper league
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>>75491722
Neymar was overpriced. Real wanted him, but they had to become criminals to sign him, and I don't think it's their thing. He went to Barça because criminality is not an issue for them.
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>>75491714
I thought Messi would be shorter. I think that's Ronaldo
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>>75491721
>and are still winning the league
Wow, that's a sweet accomplishment senpai kek. You wasted all the Pogba money on the worlds biggest cup chocker when you're aiming for the CL. Madness.
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>>75491751
Fuck, if I was any club and I had to become a criminal to sign Neymar, I would do it.
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>>75490980
>>75491584
>O-Obsessed
>P-Please don't talk bad about our transfer flopped
lmao customer
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>>75491789
I agree with the Slovak. Pogba isn't a great transfer in my opinion but why does the guy have to obsess over Pogba this much? He's basically a customer himself.

He slates on Pogba in exchange for 8 hours of his life.
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>>75491782
people/clubs have different philosophies, no harm done
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>>75491789
>Indonesian fanboying over a guy that makes fun of Indonesians all day

Kek
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>>75491789
>lmao customer
Says the foreign customer he's making fun of kek
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>>75491631
Not since 2011, retard.
I mean, of course they did it for money but we don't buy players who don't want to win and only care about money.

Look at Higuain, he would have been paid the same at Napoli and wouldn't have had to face with all the backlash. The only reason why he came to Juve is to win.
>>75491683
Yeah, just like Dybala.
The wind is changing, if players want to win they will choose Juve over Barca and Real anytime.
You also seem to underestimate the huge appeal of Juve for French players. Trezeguet, Platini, Pogba, Zidane, Evra, Deschamps.
>>75491718
>>75491668
Only time will tell.
>>75491744
>winning is not a good thing if you're doing it with Higuain
Thanks for your input, I'll remember not to party when I'll win the CL, the Serie A and the Coppa Italia.
>>75491774
We'll see what happens in the next CL games, then you will be able to say that. As I already said Higuain wants to win.
Scoring in Serie A is still harder than in any other league and he did 36 goals last year.
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>>75491875
>The wind is changing, if players want to win they will choose Juve over Barca and Real anytime.
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>>75491882
They did until 2006, why is it so hard for you to accept it? Are you by chance too young to remember about it?
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>>75491890
Real Madrid have almost always gotten the player they want. That includes taking Juve's best player long before 2006.
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>>75491875
Higuain doesn't score in the CL. he's good for 2nd tier leagues, average for top-tier leagues, and worthless for the only competition that matters
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>>75491804
Said this multiple times before but he's clearly suffering from Stockholm Syndrome over the Pogba move.

He's an absolute nutcase.
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Welp, I think we all know where he's headed in the end.
>>75491914
Not in those years, retard.
Juve's policy is to not hold players against their will but we only sell them for monstre amounts of money and buy better players.
Look at what happened with Zidane.
>>75491919
That is a lie.
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>>75491943
LOL. Higuain is a fat cast-off from a proper league who went to Italy and found his level.

How many CL knockout goals has he got m8?
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>>75491943
How many goals has Higuain in the CL throughout his career?
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>>75491963
Spoken like someone who doesn't understand football.
If you can't see the fundamental job he did against Barca even without scoring than I'm sorry for you.

You don't win in Football just by having your striker score goals. But I suppose that's how it works in the "premier" league. At least before Conte.

I'm not a Higuain fanboy, I'm simply looking at how players play and this year he did well. If he's gonna choke in the semis and maybe final then I'm not gonna defend him. As I said, we'll see but for now there's no reason to bash him.
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>>75491984
Let me ask you a question: how did Juve in CL this season until now?
Then why are you bashing Higuain?

Unbelievable.
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>>75491988
>than
*then
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>>75491988
>gets presented with shitloads of chances in big games
>doesn't take them
>us simpletons just can't appreciate his greatness

Argentina are blessed to have such a player. Truly we are entering a new era of strikers. The era... of HIGUAIN. I'm sure he'll do another "fundamental non-goal-scoring job" against Monaco.
>>
LOL when Madrid ask for a player they'll get em
so enjoy Dybala while you can also degay is going to Madrid this is a RM presidential election year and Floren loves to spend money during elections
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>>75492002
I said what I said.
>Higuain doesn't score in the CL. he's good for 2nd tier leagues, average for top-tier leagues, and worthless for the only competition that matters
It's true. There's no need to deny it, he was shit for Real Madrid too in terms of scoring goals in the CL, even though he was average in the league.
When he plays in the Europa League his numbers immediately go up.
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>>75492020
>I'm sure he'll do another "fundamental non-goal-scoring job" against Monaco.
If it means we win 3-0 again then I'm all for it.
Better to have Higuain that doesn't score and win than to have Ronaldo that scores 2 goals and lose.
Your point?
>>75492026
>Floren loves to spend money during elections
And we love to take the goyim money and buy better players with it and beat the goyim the next season.
>>75492035
Maybe. Real Madrid was never a team that played good football, though. It always relied on the single performances.
With a team that plays good football he scored 36 goals, something he couldn't do in a joke league playing for Real Madrid. Duh.
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>>75492026
>LOL when Madrid ask for a player they'll get em
worked well with suarez and neymar
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>>75492052
He scored 27 in his best season in La Liga, around 20 was the expected outcome. the thing to notice is the competitive level of the leagues. If he goes to Sporting or Porto next season, he'll reach 40, probably.
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>>75492052
let's just agree that Higuain is a good player for a team like let's say Napoli or Juventus and what their objectives are. Not good enough for Real Madrid, who competes in the CL to win.
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>>75492072
So?
>>75492078
>Not good enough for Real Madrid, who competes in the CL to win.
Real Madrid is a joke team that had amazing players and not only underperformed but most importantly never was a team or played well.
I don't understand what's your point.

Feel free to suggest a better finalizer we could have actually bought. The best ones weren't moving.
>inb4 Mbappe
Wasn't even in Monaco's starting 11.
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>>75492104
chicharito
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>>75492104
So? My point? My point is this >>75491919
, goddammit.
>Feel free to suggest a better finalizer we could have actually bought. The best ones weren't moving.
I just said Higuain is the right level for Juventus. 2nd tier league dominance.
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>>75492104
>Mbappe
kek. mbappe is a genuine talent. he'll only move up.
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>>75492123
But I already proved you wrong.
Real Madrid played like shit and Higuain still managed to score more than 20 goals, when he went to a more challenging league and played in Napoli, a team who can actually play well, he scored many more goals.

Higuain is not Etoo but he's not the failure you're trying to depict him as.

You're obviously biased and deluded.
>>75492133
It means not even Monaco trusted him at the beginning of the season, idiot.
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>>75492142
He's 18, he just moved to the professional category. you're out of it
>Higuain is not Etoo but he's not the failure you're trying to depict him as.
I'm not trying to depict him as a failure. He's perfect for a team like Juve. He's not good enough for the CL.
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>>75492104
My god you're mad. The only reason Higuain is in Italy is because no one else wanted him. He's shit against even decent CL teams.
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>>75492142
>Real Madrid played like shit and Higuain still managed to score more than 20 goals
He was average enough for Real Madrid when they were only competing for La Liga, which is what I said. When Real Madrid upped their level to compete for the CL, his use was only to push Benzema forward, so he wouldn't be so lazy.
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>>75491943

United to follow in Ronaldos footsteps?
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>>75492160
>He's perfect for a team like Juve. He's not good enough for the CL
How come Juve eliminated Real Madrid (in 2015) and Barca (in 2017), teams that for you "deserve" to win the CL, then? How come Juve managed to play a final in 2015? How come Juve is in the CL semis again in 2017? How come Juve almost eliminated Bayern last year?
It's all concidence for you, because it's impossible that a shit team like Juve could ever hope to win the CL against "superior" teams. So fucking delusional, jesus christ.

I meant that no one could predict Mbappe would explode this season so he wasn't a candidate for the role at the time.
>>75492166
I'm mad becasue I see retards talking about Football, something I love.
People like you are not worthy of talking about Football, just like the other Slovak who's obsessed with Pogba. This proves that I'm not a blind juvefag, contrary to you guys that for some reason suck on Real Madrid and ManU cock like no tomorrow.
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>>75492253
>How come Juve eliminated Real Madrid (in 2015) and Barca (in 2017), teams that for you "deserve" to win the CL, then? How come Juve managed to play a final in 2015? How come Juve is in the CL semis again in 2017? How come Juve almost eliminated Bayern last year?

impressive list well done, however

How come Juve haven't won it in 20+ years?
>>
If Italianbro is saying there's more a forward can do than score goals, he's right. Remember Mandzukic and Gomez at Bayern.
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>>75492253
Juve didn't have Higuain in 2015. Still lost the final.
Barça is utter shit in 2017. They had refball all the way to the QF. Juve was extremely lucky in the draw. The reality is that you shouldn't expect any goal from Higuain against Monaco.
>Juve could ever hope to win the CL
They can hope. Hell, even Porto and Liverpool have won it. But they don't really compete for it. No team that really aims for the CL decide "Hell, let's have as a striker the one that can't score in the CL, just for fun"
Juve aims for their 2nd tier national league dominance, nothing else.
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>>75492280
>How come Juve haven't won it in 20+ years?
>I'm gonna proceed and pretend Farsopoli which almost killed the club never happened
2003 wasn't "20+" years ago and we were in the final in 2015. Sure, we didn't win but customers like you seem to forget that only 1 (ONE) team can win and Juventus is an exsponentially growing team, proven by the fact that we did good against Bayern last year and we're in the semis this year.

>>75492318
>Still lost the final
>haha they the CL final so they aren't worth anything lololol!!!111!
Could you be any more customer than this?
So I guess Hungary and Nethelands NTs were also worthless and shit and they didn't make the history of fooball even though they never won anything, right?
>Barça is utter shit in 2017
Funny that you say that considering how Barca shat on Real Madrid, the team you're worshipping so much, just a weak later they weren't able to score 1 (ONE) single goal against Juve in two matches.
>They can hope. Hell, even Porto and Liverpool have won it. But they don't really compete for it


Wow. Just wow. I see the new trend here is to be a Juve negationist.


Remember kids, only immature ignorants live by absolutes, black and white.
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>>75492290
Mandzukic has scored a CL final goal.
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>>75492394
How many finals has Higuain played?
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>>75492385
I didn't say Juve is worthless. I said they don't aim to win the CL, how hard is this to get? all their strategic decision making points to the same objective, national dominance, even though putting in question the ability to clinch the CL in one those lucky years the candidates underperform. Buying Higuain is the best evidence for that:
>depleting a national rival from his best player, even though Higuain is a liability for the CL
> Barca shat on Real Madrid,
that's a league match, and they didn't shit on RM, it was a tight match they won in the last minute, because RM was careless and fucked up
> the team you're worshipping so much,
I don't worship them, I'm just telling it as I see it. Barça is shit for the CL now and were the worst team of the Quarter Finalists, only there because PSG, clearly superior, were refballed out of the competition
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>>75492406
None because he's shit and has spent his prime years playing in a babby league.
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>>75492394
>completely missing my point
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>>75490980

Holy shit. Slovak is BTFO so hard in this thread. The autism and aspergers is on full display.

How will ABU's recover?
>>
>>75490980
>8 straight hours
Had to double-check this to make sure it's true. >yfw the Slav is more than one person
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>>75492474
>I said they don't aim to win the CL
Our only declared target this year is the CL and everyone knows that. And that's how it will be in the next years as well.

>that's a league match, and they didn't shit on RM, it was a tight match they won in the last minute, because RM was careless and fucked up
Excuses, excuses, excuses.
Fact is Juve suffered 0 goals from Barca in 2 matches, Real Madrid suffered 3 in 1.
I mean, maybe Juve will lose to Real in the final, but it sure as hell reality isn't what you're describing.
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>>75492529
I'm on my death bed.

tried to explain to the Slovak that I knew Pogba wasn't amazing but got bombarded by his pogba image and stat collection.

R.i.p in piece, /sp/
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>>75492590

Juve is winning on the backs off the (absolutely incredible) defense and defensive organization. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but lets call a spade a spade.

Higuain didn't push them past barca. Nor did their Pogba replacements.

FTR I actually think they win the CL this season.
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>>75492601

>F
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>ywn be as loved as the slovak
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Why not just offer Ibra a pay-as-you-play deal? It's not like anyone else will touch him while he is injured.
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>>75492622
>Juve is winning on the backs off the (absolutely incredible) defense and defensive organization. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but lets call a spade a spade.
You know that's how football is suppossed to be played, right?
Look at 90's Milan, do you believe they won because they had a stellar attack? They won because they could defend (and also attack).

Look at Conte. Chelsea and the fucking shit Italy at the Euro.

Juve has worse players but are a better team. If Juve had a couple of better players, one in the midfield and one in attack, they would have no competition, just like Sacchi's Milan.
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>>75491273
But per game is flawed because it consider 1 game 1 game, regardless of the amount of minutes played.
Per 90 minutes is much better because it gives you an idea of what the player does in 90 minutes, even if it's not a perfect comparison between 2 45 minutes "games" and 1 90 minutes game.

Your reply is not even an answer, it's barely an answer to "what's wrong with per 90 minutes", which is only the start of the answer you should have given.
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>>75478660
won't he get lynched if he goes to real?
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>>75492622
>Nor did their Pogba replacements.
Are you saying Pjanic didn't have 2 amazing matches disrupting their midfield play?
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>>75492816

he did. but it starts with stopping the barca front three.
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>>75492385
>be hungary 1954 WC final
>get refballed against a shitty german team in the final (so shitty that we easily beat 8-3 in the group match)
>be salty about it forever

still feels bad man
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>>75492756

not arguing BB. Juve is a great team. Take away their center defenders and I would say they wouldn't be much better off than United.

The pogba criticisms are apples and oranges.
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>>75492859
The defending phase is not done by only the defense, in modern football you defend in 11 and attack in 11.
Mandzukic is an amazing defender.

This means to be a team and that's why I said Real Madrid, or Barca, isn't a good team. It doesn't mean Juve will win in the end, because the ball is round, as we say here, meaning that everything can happen, and Real has better players.
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>>75492799
the best choice is obviously totals, but if you're going to go with one of the other 2, then per game is better because of what I said. Any doubts?
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>>75492799
Getting on the pitch for 15 minutes in a totally dominated and already won match 4 times vs playing a hard fought loss for 90 mins.

>totally compareable stats mate

Totals is the best tbqh, but per game is the close second. If the player you want to compare not even fit to start most matches, and only plays as a sub, there is not even a point in comparing their stats as subs with starters subs.
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>>75493543
*with regular starters stats.
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