No one honestly believes he's the GOAT, right? It's

>>75360131
the correct answer is TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>75360131
TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU7UUUU7UUUUUUUUUUUUUUU7UUUU

He honestly is.

It's plainly obvious.

His only rival is Messi and he is finished while Ronaldo seems to be re-inventing himself.

>>75360131
I sincerely do. I had my doubts 2, 3 years ago but i don't anymore.

Literally the riches, handsomest and most charismatic player ever, literally the clutchest and will retire with multiple goalscoring records. Stay mad, t-mobile merchant.

>>75360131
He's the GOAT goalscorer (ignoring prehistoric meme footballers like Gerd Muller babby era). Who gives a shit if he doesn't dribble past 5 players like Messhit? Where has that got him, at home playing fifa whilst Antonella is fucking someone else. Ronaldo is in the semi final after scoring 5 against that shit German team, and Messhit kiddies livid.

>>75360131
He is

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>>75360226
You forgot to add cheese pizza and sprite.

>>75360226
But he could dribble past 5 players until he started his transition. I'll just paste my comment from other thread here


>Played as the most complete player the world has ever seen until about 28
>Dribble, skills, headers, strength, long range, assists, speed, acceleration, positioning, fucking speed again
>Realized that he cannot keep on like that because of limitations of his body
>Slowly made the most successful transformation in history of the game and became a master poacher while keeping some of his old qualities
>Literally improved his stats even further, won more titles
>/sp/ more buthurt than ever

>>75360277
>But he could dribble past 5 players until he started his transition

he really couldn't, his dribbling was never that great, he danced around the ball pointlessly, when he did beat another player it was because of sheer pace like Bale.

>>75360338
Well, yeah, his dribbling was never on goat level because he is too tall for that, but he had some decent dribbles in his career. Enough for a good highlight compilation.

Ronaldo: best ever at finishing, positioning, making runs, composure, heading, anticipation. also literally invented a ball striking technique and a couple of skill moves

messi: best ever at dribbling*


there's only 1 winner

*maybe. some older people would say maradona

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>le tap in meme

But you pathetic neckbeards don't realize good positioning is literally what forwards are OBLIGED to do, it's their fucking JOB and it's literally the 50% of getting the job done on offense. Just how many fucking times do we curse and yell when some players gets in their position a step or two too late and misses an easy tap-in? But when Ronaldo follows the action properly and professionally from his weak side, suddenly he's cancer. No, YOU are the cancer, fucking faggots. Ronaldo is the g.o.a.t.

>>75360398
>composure
>ronaldo_crying.gif
>ronaldo_crying1.gif
>ronaldo_crying2.gif
>ronaldo_crying3.gif
>ronaldo_crying4.gif
>ronaldo_crying5.gif

>>75360416
anybody can score like he does when you get the passes he get. he's so easily replacable

of course not but he gives us memes and triggers the messi apologists and farsa gloryhunters so, yes he is THE GOAT

>>75360456
>anybody can score like he does when you get the passes he get.
How come then in all the history of football, with all the stacked teams that have existed, no one has ever scored at a pace like him except Messi?

>>75360441
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUkaoy1Pr7E

>>75360456
Except Benzema apparently

>>75360456
Then multiple players from multiple teams would score 50 goals per year every year. Yet only Ronaldo and Messi do it for a decade now. Go to sleep, Yasser. In basketball and football the weak side scouting is literally the key to success.

>>75360456
then why does he have like treble the number of goals benzema has?

why are you such a salty delusional faggot?

>>75360398
Ronaldo is the best header ever and technically the most complete player ever, but he's far from being the best ever in all the things you listed.
Ronaldo is a poor dribbler(because of his height), poor freekicker and an average playmaker.
Messi is one of the best ever in pretty much anything that's not penalty kicks and heading(because of his height). He's just having poor champions league games this year, that's it.

>>75360509
because Benzema passes to him?
Benzema is Ronaldo's #1 assist giver

>>75360456
This is bullshit, it's just like he said, 50% of football is positioning, Romário at the end of his carrer only had this and still scored hundreds of goals. It's also the reason why Higuain is good.

>>75360631
>poor freekicker

Now, wait a minute. Last 3 years, ok, yeah. But before that, for most of his career he was known as the GOAT freekicker. Overall, in his career I would say he was above average freekicker, maybe average, but you can't say that he was a poor freekicker looking over his entire career.

>>75360631
>this year

he literally hasn't scored from open play in a QF, SF or Final in 2 years

>>75360683
And Ronaldo is literally one of the leading passers of this decade as well. Your point? Benzema is a notorious choker who probably missed cca 300 clean chances for Real.

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>>75360131
Even if you don't think he's THE GOAT, you must be a retarded african facebook poster to believe he isn't one of the greats.

260 games, 279 goals in La Liga.

85 goals in 85 games for Real Madrid in the CL.

People will pick fault with this. He has redefined goalscoring.

>>75360631
>>75360728
he isn't a poor free-kick taker either.

he;s scored like 4 free-kicks in the champions league the last few years.

probably has about quadruple the number of FK goals that messi has

>>75360631
>an average playmaker
When he wants to, he can be amazing at this. Too bad he likes to be the focus of all the attention and just attempts a blooter or a silly dribble once he gets the ball.

I'm saying this mostly remembering NT games, not halal games.

>>75360728
He can only kick the ball straight with his no spin ball shitty technique where no one, not even he can predict the ball trajectory.

>>75360779
Tbf he attempts many more shots than pretty much every one else in the CL, since Real always make it pretty far and he takes all the FKs. I remember seeing that his conversion rate is pretty low.

>>75360226
>Is another people pretends messi doesnt have 4 champions league, is only four goals behind CR in CL goals and two years younger, shitloads of leagues, 5 balons dor and dominated completely from 2009 to 2015 episode

>>75360631
>average playmaker
i dont think an average playmaker would be the top assist giver in CL history

>>75360631
>poor freekicker
he's literally a couple of free kicks away from catching Beckam, literally the only thing he knew how to do, and generally considered goat-level.

>>75360855
That's only because his teammates score on rebounds

>>75360887
some could be said of any other person on that list then i guess

>>75360835
That's called knuckleball. And it is the hardest technique to learn when shooting the ball. But he was much better at it before, i don't know what caused such a shitty display last few years.
I hoped he would try to shoot curve balls like Messi, his ratio would be much better but it looks he doesn't wanna give up on knuckle ball.

>>75360854
/sp/ are triggered by a decade of Barca domination so they must suck Offsidenaldo/Dontplayinfinalsnaldo off incessantly. It's honestly hilarious how so many autists are triggered by Messi.

>>75360631
>>75360631
>technically the most complete player ever
in what world?

>poor dribbler, poor freekicker and an average playmaker.
way too generous, he's shit at all of those

I'll bypass all the meme faggots and give the actual truth that he is unironically a top 10 player ever, but no self-respecting human would actually think he's the GOAT, no.

>>75360958
Name your top 10 then, friend

>>75360778
goalscoring is the only thing he's GOAT at

>>75360131
>le do nothing for 90 mins, score a penalty after your team is already winning at the 115+ minute and the other team is mentally destroyed, then pretend you are the reason your team won

>>75360775
post more philoTSUpher

>>75360854
Messi effectively has 3 CLs, he was a sub/group stage player and contributed nothing to the win. Ronaldo has 3, but he's done it with 2 different teams and in 2 different leagues, both of which were the best at the time.

>>75360980
>le do nothing for 90 mins
Messi?

>>75360835
another lie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UzcvA71A7w

>>75360964

In no order

Maradona
Pele
Cruyff
Beckenbauer
Messi
Cristiano Ronaldo
Fat Ronaldo
Zidane
Maldini
Puskas

Excluding goalkeepers I think that's gotta be pretty close to correct. Then you have that next tier with Di Stefano, Ronaldinho, Matthaus etc etc etc

>>75361169

I hate those fucking people listing players that they actually NEVER EVER FUCKING WATCHED except some youtube vids.

FUCK YOU

>>75361169
The only players you've seen play on this list are Messi and Cristiano. Why do you feel you're qualified to rank these players?

>>75361199

Quit sperging, even professional analysts and journalists do this. It's fucking dumb to only list the players you have seen yourself, giving proper due to older players and trusting the professional judgements of people who have studied and seen them play is fine too.

>>75361169
Pele is a marketing fraud that Nike memed into GOATness. His actual position should be between 6-10.

Also, Messi and Ronaldo are going to be 1. and 2. (or 2. and 1.) when they retire, there is no doubt about that.

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>No one honestly believes he's the GOAT, right?

think you got lost on the way to reddit friendo

>>75361260
>my opinion is based on what other people say

Absolutely embarrassing.

>>75361261
>Pele is a marketing fraud that Nike memed into GOATness.
eh, that never stopped anyone from naming Jordan as the unanimous goat.

>>75361320

>I don't learn from the past

I'm sure Brexit will turn out great.

Buffon and Neuer are among the best players ever

>>75361260

>even professional analysts and journalists do this.
They are annoying as fuck too then.

>giving proper due to older players and trusting the professional judgements of people who have studied and seen them play is fine too.
It's not fucking science. It's just sports, why would we care about other people's subjective opinions to the point that accepting them as "facts". Just list what you've seen m8 the fuck is that shit.

Pele? I don't know, never watched him. Simple as that.

>>75361169
>Pele
>Beckenbauer
>Puskas
>Cruyff
>Maradona

You never watched any of these people. Leaving them out, it appears you rate Maldini, Zidane, Messi, and the two Ronaldos as the top 5 players of all time. Leaving aside how retarded that is, Ronaldo is better than Zidane and Maldini, which would make him top 3 by your shitty rankings.

>>75361199
>>75361356
He was asked to name the top 10 ever players. Are you going to make out Maradona wasn't one of the top 10 because you're a child who didn't see him?

>>75361261
>Messi and Ronaldo are going to be 1. and 2.
Messi yes, Ronaldo no
No one ever considered Gerd Muller as GOAT and things aint going to change for CR7, no matter the marketing and media shilling

>>75361410

Yeah why not?

>>75361343
Is this where I say something about Donald Trump because I don't have an argument?>>75361410
It's fair to suggested players like Maradona are top 10, but to list 10 with conviction is nonsense.

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>>75361383
>Ronaldo is better than Zidane and Maldini
by what metric?

>>75361445
Gerd Muller played with dinossaurs

>>75360775
I miss those images.

Not even the best Ronaldo. Anyone thinking he is better than Fenomeno should just quit football for life.

i'm gay

>>75361476
100 goals in Champions League.

>>75361488
at least dinosaurs were allowed to tackle him

>>75361476
Impact on his team. Maldini is arguable, but Zidane is firmly below him.

>>75360131
The numbers answer the question.

>>75361445
Muller was not on the lever Ronaldo is.

>>75361476
literally every possible one imaginable?

>>75361575
>Impact on his team
he has more goals than games in the spanish league but he only won it once
such impact!

>>75361632
What about in the Champions League? Or with Man United? Or with his national team?

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>>75361632
it's a shame they can't rig it like juventus can

>>75361604
you don't know that

>>75361620
>literally only goalscoring
ftfy

>>75361650
stats bro

>>75361604
Why not? Do you know Romario? He was just like Cristiano. Yet no one rank him that high.

Thing is, the guys has a tons of marketing. He's the most popular sportman in the history of humanity, hence people claim something he is not.

>>75361650
literally every possible one imaginable.

league titles, champions leagues, goals, assists, game-winning contributions, individual trophies, balon d'ors, transfer fees, money earned.

LITERALLY every single possible metric imaginable

>>75361647
>What about in the Champions League?
and what about it? Zidane scored the winning goal in a final, what about Ronaldo?

>with Man United?
hardly their most decisive player

>Or with his national team?
they literally won a final without him
such impact!

>>75361647
Literaly the worst man on pitch 2014 and 2016 finals, and didn't even play Euro final.

>>75361700
literally only goals scored and popularity trophies

>>75361705
Ronaldo scored his team's only goal against Chelsea in 2008. Even if he hadn't though, the Champions League is more than just the final game. Ronaldo is the highest scorer EVER in Champions League history.

>hardly their most decisive player
And Zidane was the most decisive player on every team he played on?

>they literally won a final without him
How the fuck did they get there, then?

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>>75361648
>Real Madrid
>can't rig

>>75361705
>what about Ronaldo?
He dragged his team over the line to semis over two games just this season. Did similar thing against Memeburg last season.

>>75361736
literally every single metric i mentioned. all backed up by facts

are you just going to keep shoving your fingers into your ears shouting "NO, NOOOO yoyr wrong!!!!1!"

yeah, yeah
ronaldo is great
but did he win the regionalliga süd?
didn't think so!

>>75361770
Do you really believe he had a batter match than Marcelo last night?

>>75361751
He's also the one that missed the penalty in the shoot out, if it wasn't for Terry and Anelka he'd be remembered as a huge choker
you are the one that started talking about impact on the team and CR7 is much inferior to Zidane and Maldini in that regard

>>75361383
>amerifat can't understand the value of defense in football
typical
Baresi and Maldini were worth just as much as CR7 and Aguero you memeing fuck.
>b-b-but muh nike ads!!!
you got trolled, a strong defense with quick counter-attacks is just a valid tactic as 80% possession footsies.

>>75361784
but you are wrong with almost every single one

>>75361383
>beckenbauer
>not goat
fucking hell, burg

>>75360980
>le do nothing for 450 minutes (3 finals lost w/ overtime, 1 final lost in 90minutes)
>retire

>>75361798
In the end each of them did their part, Marcelos work would be worthless without Ronaldos finishing touch.

>>75361834
>arguing with americans about football
your first mistake right here.

>>75360779
Ronaldo has like 0.00000001% fk scoring rate (alright its not that low but its something like one in a hundred). Messi's is wayyy better

>>75360968
>Be goat at literally the one thing that determines winning in soccer

what would any self respecting soccer player rather be GOAT at? lmao

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>>75360968
>game is about scoring goals
>he's the GOAT at scoring goals
>he's somehow not the GOAT

yeah okay

>>75361869
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11096/10321631/cristiano-ronaldo-lionel-messi-dimitri-payet-or-gareth-bale-which-player-is-the-best-free-kick-taker

nice memeing friend

>>75361875
more than just one thing, scoring goals is the objective but you need to reach a position where you can score, a poacher without a great team is useless, a player that can both create and score is much more valuable, do I really have to explain this?

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>>75361911
>141 attempts
>232 attempts

>>75361751
>Scored a penalty on regular time
>choked and missed the one after the draw
>get Lucky and terry fucks up
Le decisive goat

>>75361459
because that's not all time is it

>>75361929
So how comes no other good team could get a poacher as good as Ronaldo? His goals in CL alone shit on every other player who ever played as attacker in the competition.

>>75361929
you literally cannot win without scoring goals, hence if you would want any player, you would want the best goalscorer

do i have to explain to you the difference between winning and not winning game?

>>75361875
Congrats, you just let Maradona out of top 100 all time and made Gerd Muller the best of all time.

>>75361989
because Ronaldo is the goat poacher but that does not make him the goat player

>>75361830
why don't you prove it then you little freak. get the stats out that prove me wrong

>>75362002
if I want any player I want Messi because he scores almost as much as your beloved but contributes in much more ways to the team

>he is goat at positioning
>literally offside in two of the goals

THIS IS NOT GOOD POSITIONING U FUCKING RETARDS IS BEING LUCKY THAT THE LINESMAN IS BLIND

>>75361961
His goal wasn't a penalty

there will never be a "best" player
my book confirms it
it contains the 1000 best players of all time

>>75361989
But no one is telling he's not good. He's amazing and has the most expensive squad ever assembled serving him directly. Like 80% of those goals could be scored for another great striker as well.

>>75362036
ok m8

>league titles, champions leagues
Maldini has more
>goals
you right
>assists
no one kept track of assists before 2008, irrelevant stat
>game-winning contributions
you prove yourself right here
>individual trophies, balon d'ors, transfer fees, money earned
you are probably right here, good customer, but I don't see how these are relevant to the discussion

>>75362016
are you telling me, from the persepctive as a soccer player, you'd rather be better at dribbling than scoring goals?

Great, guess you could hold your head up high knowing that even though you didnt score and you lost, atleast you got some nice dribbles

>>75362053
ayy lmao yeah for barca, what are his stats outside of it?
>wanting a player who's only established himself with one team, vs another player who scores more and has won with every team he's played for

Atleast messi can say he's retired more times than ronaldo, outside of barca kek

>>75362075
Which is what exactly Chicharito, Benzema, Morata, Higuain, and Adebayor were able to do

>no Ozil, he's finished!!!
>no Di Maria, he's finished!!!
>no Xabi, he's finished!!!

>>75362123
Messi with Argentina is easily the best player of this generation, I think you should lay off memes for a while

>>75362022
He does the job he is designated to do better than anyone else, other players may have more variation to their game but aren't as good ... sounds a lot like GOAT IMO. Just like a goalkeeper with most CS would be a GOAT keeper.

>>75362075
>Like 80% of those goals could be scored for another great striker as well.
But that's bullshit. Barca and both Manchester clubs got similarly expensive teams yet their strikers are no way near Ronaldo numbers. Tons of European heavy weights had great squads too.

>serving him directly
How is it a thing against him? He's so good it makes more sense to assemble a team around him instead of going for balance and going by the trophies Madrid is winning, it's clearly a decent strategy.

>>75362170
holy fuck, yeah messi 0/4 in finals is the best player ever. The guy fucking retired because he was butthurt about chocking so bad

Nice """""""GOAT""""""" you got there

>>75362123
No, YOU are telling me players such Maradona and Zidane wouldn't even be top 100. Of course you need some goal scoring, but if you can't manage to get the chances, your strikers are completelly useless. Ronaldo just can't create his chances and relies solely on the others creating for him. Great striker? Yes. GOAT? lol fucking no

>>75362224
relaxa 55

>>75362185
indeed he is the GOAT poacher but not the GOAT player, Buffon is the GOAT keeper but you don't call him the GOAT player, this title usually goes to creative players like Maradona or Messi, not unidimensional players like poachers or stoppers

>>75362075
>get mad when people dont pass tapins to u
>take every penalty
>shoot every free kick from retard distances on goal
>shoot way more than any other player on the sport cause u handsome and the main marketing source for the team
Wow so much goals so impressive new gerd muller
Literally most overrated player in history
Wastes half the balls on his feet on terras shots on goal.
>tip: go into the all the champions leagues he played on uefa site, check for players staristics n shots on goal. Nigga took probably 4 times the ammount of shots messi took to score his goals everytime

>>75362221
He's not the GOAT of GOATs he is with Barca but still the best fucking player of his generation

why am I even replying to canada

>>75362185
Guess what happened the season Higuain outscored the most marketable player in history? He got fucking sold. Ronaldo is a amazing player but he is the biggest trademark football has today.

>>75362221
>u instantly get to finals
>carrying ur team to 4 finals while becoming the topscorer of the nt of all times is not am achievement

>>75362224
yeah good thing it's a team sport and you have 10 other guys to set up those chances.

You have 2 options, you have one who scores but doesnt assist, or you have someone who assits but doesnt score. You are always going to go with the goal scorer.

But memeing aside, ronaldo also holds the record for most assits in the CL.

so now your going to tell me, that a player who's scored the most, assisted the most, in the hardest most prestigious tournament in club football, isn't the GOAT? He isn't even top 3 for appearnces either loool

>>75362305
yeah you're goat plays with 2 of the top 5 offensive players on the planet, and has been knocked out of the CL quaterfinals for 3 of the 4 season he's had with them

If only barca had someone who was better at scoring goals......

>>75362352
>carrying your team to finals but not carrying them to win

As a brazilian, who's country has produced so many GOAT's, you should understand why that severly hurts messi's legacy

>>75362253
> this title usually goes to creative players like Maradona or Messi
Which makes it pretty subjective and tricky to quantify. While rating someone based on clear numbers makes more sense.

>>75362341
Because Ronaldo is consistent. Higuain can't be relied upon in really big games. Just compare their stats in CL.

In the league he's doing better too despite playing in a much harder one:
Ronaldo: 2100min 19goals 6assists
Higuain: 2484min 23goals 2assists

Why is it always Americans that go to the world's end to defend Messi?

>>75362448
Can't blame the guy whose NT cannot even qualify to WC without.

Reminder than Ronaldo has played almost 30 more CL games than Messi

>>75362117
he has more because he played 25 seasons you idiot. ronaldo has a better ratio.

and maldini has 2 champions league. ronaldo has 3 already. some dreadful meme full knock-out competition where all milan had to beat were steaua bucharest, crevena zveda, werder bremen and vitosha doesnt count

nice backpeddling. also untrue.

ronaldo has 14 goals in finals. how many does zidane have? how many clean sheets maldini?

how aren't they relevant? you only get all of those by being the best in the world. you don't randomly fluke becoming the balon d'or winner, for example. you get it because your fellow professionals judge you as the best player in the world. if zidane and maldini were so much better than zidane, why were no teams willing to pay for them as much as ronaldo? why weren't they willing to pay him as much wages?

>>75362542
how can you credit him for accomplishments he's had wiht a team, yet not regard him for the same accomplishments he's missed out with said team?

If your gonna try and tell me argentina is better than portugal you're absolutely retarded. So you're argument has no weight

>>75362564
>insulting werder
hey

>>75360131
only proletariat scum hate Tsuuuu
he is the golden GOAT

>>75362564
Agree with most of what you said but the Maldini thing is simply because people hate on defenders. Besides it's a lot harder to rate their contributions, you can do everything perfect but if other defenders or your keeper fuck up, you will still lose a CS.

>>75362564
I just don't know what to say, you managed to be the most retarded poster in a thread full of americans and canadians, good job lad

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>>75360456
le french... still butthrt since the euros final

I can understand why people strong opinions on either side of the argument about who's better between Messi and Ronaldo.

But the oddball freaks that try and argue that Ronaldo is actually a terrible awful footballer and not in the top 10 ever, or whatever, genuinely make me cringe.

you're a literal attention seeking autist if you don't believe that Messi and Ronaldo are out on their own as the two best players ever

>>75362578
I don't get your point. How is he supposed to win games he doesn't play? Take him out and Argentina is total garbage.

>If your gonna try and tell me argentina is better than portugal you're absolutely retarded. So you're argument has no weight
No ideia what are you meaning here, but I do absolutelly agree with you. Portugal has a team, Argentina has a bunch of players.

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the one thing i dont like about ronaldo is that he cant dribble worth shit anymore. ever since that knee injury in the 13/14 season he can't get past a traffic cone. this is probably one of his better "dribbled" goals

>>75362643
>cant challenge my arguments

lol, what a little pussy faggot.

>>75362654
No reason to, Ronaldo was irrelevant to the title. Stop riding ronaldos dick u fucking smelly Guido
Ronaldo is an insecure narcisistic fag

>>75362690
if argentina are so bad without him, then how good are they with him? regardless of your answer, the result is "utlimately not good enough to win when it matters most"

Who cares if you carry a team to the finals all the time just to lose?

>>75362723
He only scored couple decisive goals and made couple decisive assists that lead them into the final, but yeah beyond that he was irrelevant.

>>75362554
Not that you watched the sport back then but Ronaldo played as an old fashioned winger when he first started. He has more CL goals and a better ratio than Messi since he joined Real Madrid, which was 09/10 as you probably didn't know either.

>>75362554
didn't score in his first 25 though, says alot about the player he became

>>75362789
>if argentina are so bad without him, then how good are they with him? regardless of your answer, the result is "utlimately not good enough to win when it matters most"
I don't get you, leaf. I do think just like you. I can't see how the best team winning over the best player is something to desqualify the player.

Honestly I feel if he wins the Ballon d'Or this year and he will likely will he will be considered the GOAT without a second guess. Messi will most likely never going to win it again. At this point Neymar > Messi and that will not change until messi retires.

>>75362934
>At this point Neymar > Messi

What planet do you Amerimutts live on?

>>75362845
That's not a surprise, actually. As years go by, Ronaldo plays closer to the goal line while Messi players closer to the midfield line. Yet they hold the same numbers.

>>75362794
Against fucking powerhouses. Things that were relevant:
>easy draw
>ederzinho

On the rest, it would be the dá me with paco alcacer instead of Ronaldo and u know it

>>75362967
He's a subhuman chicano halal bandwagoner. Pay it no mind.

>>75362723
stfu cunt, he was irrelevant in the final because they killed him. Now go back in your favela to suck a trap's dick

>>75362988
>easy draw
not even half as easy as argentinas 2014 WC draw

>>75362934
That's what it looks like, but back in 2014 when Madrid won La Decima everyone had the same feeling, just to see what happened a year later. Ronaldo was having a shitty season and then banged 5 vs Bayern and he's the best again.

We never know.

>>75363019
go back to the states Tyrone

>>75363039
Btw why Ronaldo only WC goal is vs North Korea?

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>>75363070
I've never been there viado

>>75363102
because is best korea

>>75363039
Belgium and netherlands would massacrate Portugal.

>>75363157
netherlands couldn't even qualify for 2016, and belgium lost 3-1 to wales, which portugal ended up owning

so no lmao, they wouldn't

cristiano has the GOAT mentality, overall skill wise he could be easily out of the top3 by now, seeing how there are many things he can't do any more that he used to be able to.

thing is he won't take not succeedingas an option, even when it gets tough he manages to win by pure willpower. messi get's much more easily frustrated and just gives up walking up and down the pitch pouting.

that being said, messi is better than him in about everyting else, except for headers and physical aspects

>>75363472
>that being said, messi is better than him in about everyting else, except for headers and physical aspects

completely false.

he's only clearly better at dribbling and passing. everything else you can make an argument either way.

>>75363640
messi is a better finisher, long range shoorter, and free kick taker stawise. he takes a shitload less attempts than ronaldo in all of these to score the same amount of goals or more. you can't argue against that.

>https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/lionel-messi-is-impossible/

>>75363156
/thread

>>75363324
You heretic, Netherlands 2014 is not the same of the Euro qualification

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>>75363893
>>75363157
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>>75361798
TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>75363893
>stats only matter when they benefit me

>>75363893
>using a blog as a source
>from 3 years ago

LMAO

sad loser

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butthurt brazilian sad since nerman won't win an award again

>>75364042
i am not messi you fucking dumbfuck
i'm just objetively trying to find who is the best, and the in depth stats help me confirm who i feel is the best when watching both play with my years of football experience.
thats the thing with ronaldo fans - they watch highlights and goals, not full games. they just like ronaldo cause they are closet homo for his looks and persona.

Ronaldo is only better than Messi at heading, which is irrelevant, because Ronaldo still doesn't score many head goals

Even when Ronaldo is playing a goalscorer for Real Madrid (tap ins aren't easy, Brazilian Ronaldo excelled at tap ins and he's considered the best centreforward ever) and Messi plays a playmaker and still Messi scores more goals than Ronaldo

When was the last time Ronaldo did a between-lines assist or a key long pass to the box? Messi does at least 3 per game

If the game is constantly evolving does that mean that Ronaldo is the greatest player yet? So many have learned from the past greats like Messi and Neymar from Ronaldinho, obviously the entire RM squad from Zidane and etc. it's too the point where you can find kids playing in college at the same level Johan Cryuff or Pelé were

>>75364084
i am able to read u pretty fucking well faggot
>20s something
>underachiever
>spends hours reading about pua and alpha bullshit
>contrarian cause is the only way to find relevance on life is pretending to be right when everyone is wrong
>a failure at social life, probably has an ugly girlfriend and some strange friends

>>75364126
Goals are what decide games in the end. Messi can do some stunning shit on the ball but if it all ends at that, it's worthless.

>>75364160
Or zero in games where it matters.

>>75364160
>ronaldo excelled at tapins
>literally one of the best dribblers ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eCwn-k8UE0

>>75364193
>getting this upset on an internet forum

LMAO

what a sad loser

>>75364247
He's good at both

I never said Ronaldo was a bad player nor a bad dribbler. Just saying he scores less goals than Messi and isn't even as spectacular as him, Ronaldo almost never scores solo goals past +4 defenders

>>75364212
still anyone who ACTUALLY WATCHES GAMES knows ronaldinho was a better players than etoo, even though etoo scored more goals. you seriously can'y, specially when talking about a player who has inflated stats due to taking all the penalties, shooting all the balls, and being mad when people dont pass to his tapins, use goals as a measurament of how good a player is. ronaldo is the player with the biggest discrepancy betwen tallent and goals ever, due do his markeatable persona and teens eager for his image as you.

>>75364339
Ronaldinho is definitely more SKILLED than Etoo, this doesn't mean he's better if his contributions aren't as decisive.

It's not purely the goals that speak for Ronaldo, it's the crazy amount of them while having the right attitude for a pro, constantly delivering. The dude won everything and still gives his best, hence you can always rely on him deciding the game at any moment.

>teens eager for his image as you.
I am way older than a teen and don't particular like him nor his image or persona, although it's definitely better than Mr Autism. You don't have to like someone to appreciate their obvious quality. Neymar or Suarez are pretty disgusting in and off the field but I wouldn't never claim that they aren't great players.

>>75360456
Bait or do morons actually think this?

>>75364287
Don't criticize him dude. He lives a sad favela life already.

>>75364193
que falta de chá, maninho

>>75360456
This is what I thought when I was 12.

Don't tell me you're actually serious Hugo

>>75361532
>Le what could have been man
Facebook is that way

>>75364212
>Messi can do some stunning shit on the ball but if it all ends at that, it's worthless
His trophies to goal ratio is like twice Ronaldo's. Ronaldo has scored like 300 La Liga goals and won just one.

>Or zero in games where it matters.
Did you watch Juve vs Barça last week? I pretty much think you're just trolling. That assist to Iniesta was pure magic.

>>75364685
>Ronaldinho is definitely more SKILLED than Etoo, this doesn't mean he's better if his contributions aren't as decisive

Not the quoted hue but... really? REALLY?

I unironically believe that TSUU is better than pele and I hate Halal

Messi = Federer
Ronaldo = Nadal / Djokovic hybrid

FACTS

>>75366898
>burger on football
You are allowed to.

>>75366898
kek fishing for (You)'s, aren't we?

>>75367060
Federer is the GOAT sportsman. Messi doesn't compare.

>>75363933
The same Netherlands that is self destructing because they have no leadership? The same one that decided to give a 17 year old kid his first cap in an important qualifier where he proceeds to lose them the game?

>>75367265
>le win titles in a weak era then suck ass when facing actual competition man

He's unironically not even the best CF in La liga anymore.

> Ronaldo gets couple more goals between now and the final.

> Real wins the CL with his help

> Ronaldo also gets lots more la liga goals before the season ends

> Real also win the la liga

> meanwhile Messi will have been scoreless in his past SEVEN el classicos

> Ronaldo ends up winning the Balond'or

The best timeline desu. The /sp/ salty tears will be great. Who else can't wait?

So it's not a meme, some people actually think Ronaldo is the best ever huh.

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>it's a "people who like him bullshit their way into saying he's better than Messi and people who don't like him act like his career only started in 2014" episode

>>75371610
>/sp/ has one opinion
nice meme

>>75360683
Cristiano has more assits than Benzema.

>>75371610
you now remember the uefalonians chatting shit of winning back to back CLs since 2006

>ff to 2017

Ronaldo actually delivers duodecima accomplishing the feat no one ever could to put the jewel in his goat crown

I will pop my bottle of premium barca tears for the occasion to be dessuo

Portugal perfected football.

dubs and ronaldo is the goat

>>75361684
>romario as good as Cristiano
Are u cereal?
Cristiano did more than what romario did vs 10x better defense.

>>75371610
don't forget that Argentina won't make it to the WC because of Messi's autism so he will already be out of running for 2018 too

>>75364160
>because Ronaldo still doesn't score many head goals

Fuck this shitty weeb central.

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>>75360131
hes such a massive faggot, when he comes out, the halal tsuuu fans will have to declare jihad upon him