>14/15 >buy southampton talents >notice mourinho's

because by copying he will always stay up to date with the hot memes. unlike say mouyes who will never change and rot away

feel bad for memehampton though, if they had kept their players right now theyd be top 6 probably. not just the spurs ones but mane lallana shaw lovren etc

He's been doing the le press tactic ever since he started managing clubs in 2009.

>>75017447
>why do we rate him again?
we don't

Because he manages pretty much the only profit-oriented club (is more focused in selling than buying players) in the league and still does it rather fine

>£35m
>Sissoko

>30m for lamela

>This Lelsea damage control

>>75017468
Southampton will always be a selling club

>>75017447
Pochettino used 4-2-3-1 well before he started managing Spurs. And which Soutampton talents did he buy in 2014?

>>75017551
>30m for Alderweireld/Dier/Vertonghen

>>75017447
>Remind me, why do we rate him again?
Because he stays competitive against teams with 5-10x the resources and spending? Who gives a fuck HOW he does it.

Poch saying he invented 3 CB's is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.

Formations have existed in footballs for countless years, he in no way invented any formation.

On top of that, Conte has used 3 CB's for years in Italy. You can say it's his formation because he's the only one effectively using 3 CB's without copying someone else.

Is there any coach who is not called a fraud here?

Guardiola, Conte, Mourinho, Klopp, Pochettino, Sampaoli... who was not called a fraud here?

>>75017739
Shakespeare

>>75017731
For Brits anything that isn't 4-4-2 is a revolutionary formation and/or a fedoresque one

>>75017739

Sir Alex Ferguson.

>>75017786
>27 years (in a row) managing the richest club in the WORLD
>only 2 CLs

Honestly I do not rate him.

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>>75017739
Zidane

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>>75017813
>I rate Zidane

>>75017806
>take poor club from nothing
>turn them into the richest team

Sir Alex made them what they are. He is like Wenger only talented.

>>75017827
Are you unironically suggesting United were a poor club before him?

>>75017731
the recent trend started in italy when a lot of managers copied three at the back after guidolin used it successfully with udinese. mazzarri, conte etc. did this and then conte starting doing it with italy too. now he's brought it over to england.

>>75017832
Not poor but certainly not rich like he made them.

He is the GOAT.

>>75017854
when he retired bayern, juventus, real and barcelona were already bigger than united

all united have now is money, and you waste it in players like depay, martial or pogba

>>75017869
What in the hell is this meme that Pogba is a bad player? He is not a 100mi player, but he is still pretty good.

>>75017885
Didn't say Martial, Depay or Pogba are bad, they are just overpaid

>>75017869
nah

>>75017739
Marcelo Bielsa isn't a fraud, just misunderstood

>not rating poch

Are u faggots brain damaged or are you just that fucking bitter that small club spurs are doing better than you without trying to follow the money meme solution to thier problems.

>b-but much klopp muh Jose, we can buy anyone we want, we have so much money

Fuck off, you "big clubs" make me sick

>>75017892
>overpaid
What does it even mean? They get paid as much as agreed in their contract.

>>75017902
0 (zero) titles

>>75017929
Same as Liverpool.

>>75017962
5 CLs, literally the 2nd biggest club in the world

>>75017929
Still the best manager in the world. I would go to war with Bielsa.

>>75017980
They only have 1 CL m8.

They are not even top 3 Brit teams.

>>75017929
Won stuff with Vélez of all teams, that counts for like 20 titles.

Literally no fans, except that old lady.

>>75017983
Bielsa will always be remembered as the manager that -managed- to get out of a WC in the groups stage with the most stacked Argentina squad ever

>>75018012
He've only won 3 Argentine domestic leagues in his whole career, not a single cup of anything and not a single foreign league

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>>75017447
>Copying winning strategies and winning with them is a bad thing
Well fuck me, that's an impressive observation you've made lad.

>16/17
>buy southampton talents
?

remind me which ones?

and other than >wanyama, which southampton "talents" did he buy?

>>75018036

>implying the OP said it was a bad thing when he was only questioning how good of a manager pochettino is

Well fuck me, that's an impressive flag you've posted with lad.

>>75018024
Kek, i know. i'm a chilmean living in France so I got bombarded by Bielsa biographies on TV and radio back in the day.

I rate him, obviously, but I agree on the fact that not winning things puts a severe dent on your legacy. As much as I liked him at first, he ended up becoming more of a diva as time went by, pulled some bizarre tactical moves on Southafrica and then announced he would leave if the current FA president wasn't reelected-- and they kicked him out.

IDK, mixed feelings.

>Janssen

>>75017926
It means you both suck at English and are making mistakes writing and interpreting.

----------------Forster
Clyne----Lovren--v.Djik---Shaw
------Wanyama--Schneiderlin
Mane-------Lallana----Bale
------------??????

Not a bad team desu

>>75017739
Pulis

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>bielsa-poccetino-sampalo
>le run a lot for nothing managers
>good
Fuck them
FUck bielsa
he sucks

So, how is Simeone a bad coach?

>>75018056
guys pls answer

what is this southampton meme

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>>75017995
>they only have 1cl

Customers will never cease to make me laugh

>>75018251
he's le gangster thugball man

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>>75018262
>he counts European cups as CLs

>>75018078
>Questioning how good a manager achieving successive top 4 finishes (not named arsene Wenger) is.
Almonds activated.

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>>75018282
>his "team's" european story starts in the 2000's

>>75017447
Pochettino has been using 4-2-3-1 and a high press at least since he started with Southampton, idk about how he managed in Spain. And it's not like Mourinho created the 4-2-3-1 or anything, before Inter Mourinho mostly used a 4-3-3.

>>75018056
Alderweireld was on loan at Southampton for one season. And that's basically it, I don't know what OP is talking about.

>>75018189
Maybe Walcott on the left and Bale as the striker?

>>75018341
In the 90's.

Do you leafs know nothing?

>>75018189
that's a top 4/maybe title push team depending on the striker. you've got 40 goals from bale/mane already, a more than decent midfield 3 who all work hard and are solid defensively, with lallana having tons of end product this season. add pelle/new meme italian they have and its pretty stacked

>>75017731
the three/five men defense has been a thing since 86

>>75017854
He's not the GOAT but surely one of them

>>75018282
yo if you want to draw a line at least use some format change
the only difference between pre 97/98 UCL and the old European Cup is just the name

>>75017926
comparing his worth to players being paid similar amounts. suarez is being paid less at barcalona and is scoring 40+goals a season. there's plenty of players in the EPL better than/similar to pogba who are being paid 100Kish. due to football being a limited market at the elite level the top players get paid 300K+ and comparing pogba to the other players being paid that shows how poor he is. that's what overpaid means

>>75017714
>against teams with 5-10x the resources
lmao x1000 if it makes you feel better
>and spending?
they make twice the annual profit after expenses (~70m) than barcelona/madrid (~30m) and other top clubs do, it's their board's fault they'd rather pocket that money than reinvest it in the club and improve the team and results

>>75018674
Their revenue is less than 1/3 as high as Real Madrid's or Barcelona's. It's not even in the top 5 for English clubs.

>>75017731
When did Poch say he invented 3 CBs?

>>75018674
>this logic

No wonder the Spanish economy is in such horrible shape

>>75018666
Football moved long past performances on the field. Even ignoring the silly comparison between players in different positions, Pogba adds commercial value that balances out his price for Manure making it a good deal for them to pay him as much as he gets. Kids want to dab like Pogba and not bite others like Suarez.

>>75018229
u mad bielsa is what allowed chile to beat you in not one but TWO finals

>>75018695
>revenue
we are talking about annual profit, which they have in abundance but would rather not spend. Profit that would have allowed them to keep a player like bale, for example, or sign better players

But the owners will rather pocket it instead and have the club be another arsenal, because somewhere there's a retard like you defending them doing so

>>75018731
nice argument nigger

>>75018976
> which they have in abundance but would rather not spend
Because unlike the big two in Spain, they can't rely on a corrupt state keeping them afloat no matter what happens.

Besides it doesn't change shit about the means available to Poch.

>>75018976
>we are talking about annual profit, which they have in abundance but would rather not spend. Profit that would have allowed them to keep a player like bale, for example, or sign better players

Barcelona and Real Madrid both have revenues exceeding 600 million euros per year. Tottenham's barely exceeds 190 million. If Real Madrid wanted to make a profit of 200 million, and Tottenham wanted to make profit of 0, Madrid could still spend more than twice as much as Tottenham. Profit is kind of irrelevant here.

Bale would have left no matter what, Tottenham were in the Europa League while Real Madrid had just made the previous 3 CL semifinals in a row.

>>75018976
>But the owners will rather pocket it instead
>pocket it

They're building a new stadium. Not everyone has Florentino running their club with help from the Spanish government. Spurs have to actually pay for it themselves.

>>75017447
>14/15
Poch always used 4231 with Spurs

>15/16
Again, Poch started the high press that season. He spent his first season at Spurs preparing his players for it and got rid of the dissenters who refused to comply (Kaboul, Adebayor etc)

>16/17
Poch used 3 at the back against Watford the previous season. Rarely used it the previous season because 4231 was working so well because Lamela was fit

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TFW spurs fan right now

>>75017563

please delet this

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>>75019973
Tfw I am too