Yes, Brady is the most succesful QB ever ..... but, am I the only one who thinks than Aaron Rodgers is better than Brady in talent and skills ? I mean, big part of Brady succes is because Bill Belichick system's.
If you had to pick one of them (young) for a new carrer on your team...who would you choose ?
>>74101611
There's literally nothing anyone can say anymore. Brady is the GOAT and any denier is just pants on head at this point.
>>74101611
>>74101611
Bill's little "system" is run to the EXACT TEE by Bill O'Brien in Houston.
Please tell me how elite Mallett, Hoyer and Osweiler looked.
>>74101611
Beyond any reasonable doubt.
>>74101611
we saw how bad rodgers was without jordy last year
brady does more with less talent than jordy on a yearly basis
The rest of the league, including people who were on Belichick's staff, has had over a decade to figure out how to emulate both the system and the success and has not managed to.
I'm thinking maybe Brady is just really fucking good.
>>74101731
>exact tee
>minus the coaches
>minus the surrounding players brought in to fit the system
>>74101611
Rodgers is a front runner. Literally no way he leads a comeback like Brady did tonight.
>>74101611
Brady, no question.
Rodgers is great, but look at his playoff resume. Now look at Brady's.
And don't try to tell me Rodgers doesn't have a team around him, Brady's "weapons" (with the exception of gronk) would be shit tier elsewhere
Rodgers is the better player. There are a small handful of QBs all time who are better than Brady. Rodgers has always had the better arm, legs, and awareness. Football is a team sport
>>74101611
>Less rings than Jimmy Garoppolo
>>74101611
Rodgers has better physical tools is the only thing I can say with confidence here.
And honestly, it's the only thing anyone can say confidently at this point. Anything else is just shitposting.
It's not the system it's just the fact that he's had waaaaay better defenses. Rodgers would kill for an average Brady defense.
Atlanta scored more in the first half against the Packers than the entire game against NE
>>74102267
falcons also had a huge lead early against the packers and rodgers couldnt take them back like brady could
>>74101611
Rodgers is more physically talented. So what?
>Comparing the GOAT to the third best packers qb in history
Rodgers will NEVER EVER be better than Favre. He has no chance of being better than Brady.
>>74102318
hurr hurr Brady also forced multiple 3 and outs, and fumble, and multiple sacks too right? Rodgers had no chance because the Falcons drove the ball every single time.
Brady easily could have had 3 or 4 picks this game too
Oh shut up about systems, Rodgers was down by the same amount and couldn't come back. Unless you honestly believe being down by 25 was part of belichicks plan
TEAMS won games. What would happen today if Edelman doesnt catch the ball or if the defensive player doesnt force the fumble on Ryan. I mean ... is not only Brady who did the comeback
Talent and skills, sure. Understanding of his offence, command of the game, clutch preformances, reading defenses, doing more with less, no way. Rodgers is more talented, but give Brady all of Aaron Rodgers physical tools and you have a player who literally wins every super bowl in years he has serviceable teams
>>74102318
>held to 21 points, 6 punts and 1 turnover
vs
>held to 44 points, 1 punt and 0 turnovers
its a team sport
And yeah its was amazing, but lets give the rest of the team and the coaches some credit also
>>74102556
You're right.
>>74101611
dude no one gives a fuck about the what ifs in talents and skills. Brady has been dominant for 15 fucking years. A DECADE AND A HALF. He didn't even have the best TE in the league to win this one. He was 25 points down at one point in the game and threw for almost 500 today, even with the horrible performance of his receivers during the 1st half. Literally GOAT QB in every sense
>>74101780
and minus the results
he can't even settle in naming his starting QB
>>74101611
I would rather take Brees in Belichick's system than Rodgers
>>74101611
pack fan here, fuck off with the rodgers shit for at least a day. The goddamn patriots just came back from a 21 point deficient.
>>74102419
Rodgers is better than Favre, you cuck.
>>74101611
Rodgers is the better physical talent but being a quarterback is so much more than that.
So Brady.
peyton in his prime is arguably the goat mechanically, or marino
but overall, you have to give it to brady
cant say "what if" all the time
>>74102419
Rodgers is literally the best parts of Favre without the interception issue and slightly less resilient to injuries (though to be fair Farve was a damn machine with injuries. That starting streak is unreal)
>>74101611
Dude I'm not a Patriots fan but you are in a serious state of denial if you think anyone other than Brady is the GOAT.
>>74102419
>losing to Vick in the playoffs
>being the best Packer's QB
Pick one and only one
daily reminder that rodgers has literally never beaten a team with a winning record while trailing in the 4th quarter
>>74103991
vick was a beast when he was on
>>74103994
>being this delusional
>>74101611
>I the only one who thinks than Aaron Rodgers is better than Brady in talent and skills
Yes, Rodgers is the poster boy for PI dependence
>>74104062
somebody is still mad
>>74104059
>muh regular season QBR
literally who cares
rodgers is shit in the playoffs and when trailing.
>>74104059
>Passer rating
lol, are you implying that Romo is better than Young or Brees because of some meme efficiency stat?
>>74104059
Rodgers literally said that he sometimes just takes the sack instead of throwing it away because it'd hurt his passer rating.
He's also the first great QB to start his career in the passing friendly era. Of course his stats are off the charts
>>74104059
rodgers literally gave up against the falcons and tried to start a fight with a no-name CB on the falcons
brady would never do that
he's not a leader no matter what physical talents he has
his defense is trash because they don't believe that even when he gets stops he would be able to come back and win
Rodgers is nothing but hype. Fuck the Packers, fuck Rodgers, and fuck you OP you cheese head wearing faggot
Yeah Rodgers has the better arm but nowhere near the mental toughness of Brady.
Brady>Rodgers
the packers have terrible D because rodgers is a horrible leader
his speeches are absolute shit tier. brady on the other hand has some of the most intense speeches ever.
no one believes in rodgers. he's also probably a fag and NFL players don't respect that sort of shit.
>>74101997
You're an idiot.
>>74103961
>Farve was a damn machine with injuries.
Being pumped full of enough opiates to kill a small horse will do that.
Regardless of who is better skill-wise, Brady is probably the most clutch man alive
>>74104059
>Hehehe just let me post an image that disproves what you said in no way
>Checkmate
Brady is GOAT, deal with it
>>74101660
That isn't what he asked, dipshit.
>>74101611
Rodgers probably has more raw talent but that doesn't change the fact that he's a numbers baby who chokes in big game situations. Brady has both talent and toughness.
rodgers has amazing physical tools as a QB
maybe the greatest ever
but mentally and in terms of leadership he's mediocre or just shit
in terms of total package he's like elway tier maybe
>>74101611
By that metric Cam Newton and Andrew Luck are the best quarterbacks the NFL has ever laid eyes on
Rodgers is too much of a douche to have ever let Belichick be Belichick
Brady is the most coachable/humble guy ever, Rodgers is an egomaniac
>>74104471
bardy is a leader
he inspires his teammates including his defense
rodgers is a total faggot his teammates are thinking about losing their jobs since they know that no one will blame rodgers for the team's failure
Rodgers has the better arm and is faster thats about it
Newton is more physically gifted then anyone, who gives a fuck, this isnt the NBA
>>74104494
rodgers would turn the pats into a game of thrones struggle between him and belichick
he's that much of asshole
rodgers plays for himself
brady plays for his teammates and his family
that's the difference
does rodgers even fucking talk to his family anymore?
>>74101765
Nigger did you forget about Gronk??
>>74101611
t. Joe Buck
>>74101822
I think you are a little mixed up bud...
>>74104520
he lost gronk and still won the super bowl lol
>>74104549
gronk was shit when he played with jimmy while marty was lighting it up even when brisket was the QB
gronk is a brady baby if anything
>>74101660
No, other players like Lawrence Taylor for example, had more skill and were more dominant.
>>74102538
This is what every news article is forgetting when they are clamoring to the celebrity of Brady
Brady is Bart Starr 2.0
>>74101780
If a "system" only works with the exact coaches and players then there is no system.
>>74101611
Rodgers is simply Manziel with a better arm.
>>74104059
>Implying Wilson, Romo, Rivers and Warner are even NEAR the Top 10 QBs ever
Passer Rating is an irrelevant stat, and I´m a Pack Fan
>>74101927
>And don't try to tell me Rodgers doesn't have a team around him
Brady has a defense
>>74102481
Patriots defense started stopping the Falcons, the Packers pass defense was "I hope they don't catch the ball".
Belichick is the reason for the success of the Pats. Brady is mostly a product of a successful system. That said, fuck the Packers. Old man Aaron won't be around forever.
>>74104631
im mad
>>74104703
old man Aaron lead the league in TDs there bud.
>>74101611
>he has a system
Literally every fucking team runs a system that the qb abides by. Brady is better period.
>>74104721
The Packers also had almost no run game most of the season. But the teams the Packers played were also aware of this. This means Rodgers is both overrated and underrated at the same time.